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01:43 lobbes http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-30#1932253 << congrats diana_coman! I tip my hat to your beating me to the finish line
01:43 snsabot Logged on 2019-08-30 12:06:34 diana_coman: yeeeee, works and test-live at logs.ossasepia.com (185.163.46.29)
01:43 lobbes http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-30#1932255 << updated bot directory with ossabot
01:43 snsabot Logged on 2019-08-30 12:07:47 diana_coman: name's ossabot so can haz !o maybe?
01:46 lobbes http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-30#1932283 << I do understand the 'spammy-ness' of it; perhaps could have two commands: a !Qlater chan and !Qlater pm
01:46 snsabot Logged on 2019-08-30 12:36:27 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1932106 << what, the later tell delivery ?
01:46 lobbes but this is one of those "no real need to solve today" problems imo. Can sit on it a while
01:52 lobbes http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-30#1932520 << ftr, THE thing that helped me the most in the last month was removing a broken homefront partnership from my life. My saltmine job (as an "excel jockey") has remained the same for the last 4 years
01:52 snsabot Logged on 2019-08-30 15:34:08 asciilifeform: mod6: talk with lobbes , he seems to have made progress escaping his.
01:52 lobbes Note, too, that my saltmine right now IS a "9-5", only I lucked out finding one that a) "pays well" and b) I don't, actually, work a full "9-5". I'm bezzling the bezzle, in a sense
01:54 lobbes (while this lasts, of course. The 'sword of damocle' hangs over ALL of us still sucking blood from the reich, "9-5" or no.)
01:55 lobbes s/sucking blood from the reich/*depending on* the reich to suck blood from/
01:58 lobbes mod6: take it from me, please, the best thing I ever did was start blogging/writing things down/*expressing* myself. Only through this kind of reflection (and by this I mean analyzing the reasoning you used in the past for action and analyzing your reasoning for future action), and through the critical eye of others can that fog even start to clear
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01:58 lobbes in other words, make a post my friend. If anything I'll read it and comment
01:59 lobbes annd I'm off to bed. Got LAMP stack up on heathen server yesterday; tomorrow gonna try logotron proper
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04:49 diana_coman http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-08-31#1932624 -> thanks for posting the versions that worked on your testbed, they saved a lot of futzing around!
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05:16 mircea_popescu keks, no moar "parliament". only took 1k or so years, the albiontards are slow.
05:26 mircea_popescu trinque, http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-25#1930944 << never went. do you see it somewheres ?
05:26 snsabot Logged on 2019-08-25 09:31:14 mircea_popescu: !!withdraw 0.09776 1KQ6jRPaa9RneTYMppJiMCsd1RqMeQM8H
05:26 mircea_popescu http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-30#1932308 << thick.
05:26 snsabot Logged on 2019-08-30 13:12:44 asciilifeform: wai which is
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11:33 trinque mircea_popescu: didn't get a !!v for that one
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13:19 asciilifeform diana_coman: i noticed that your db snapshot link dun go yet. here is example, how mine worx. and here is the crontab. can adjust paths for yours.
13:21 asciilifeform these will go in the 'readme' at next patch.
13:24 diana_coman asciilifeform: thank you; I haven't yet set the cron jobs, yes; will do it later today.
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13:25 asciilifeform if next patch is diana_coman's -- invited to put in cron etc.
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14:16 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: power supply (w/ nominally jp caps) for rk plant, bought
14:23 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: ty
14:24 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: my original plan included a serial-controlled relay board for rebooting individual rk. but nao thinking, just how often anyone asked to reboot ? do we need this ?
14:25 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I can't remember reboot requests for the rockchips that didn't involve disk swaps
14:25 asciilifeform rright, and the thing will still have to be slid out an' opened to swap
14:25 asciilifeform so i'ma omit the relays ( granted the 1u flat setup will be considerably easier to swap pieces in, than in old plant )
14:26 asciilifeform i.e. nomoar 'towers of hanoi'
14:28 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: item will actually slide, given as will have only 2 wires going to it (mains & 1 ethernet) and not 15
14:30 BingoBoingo Very nice. is there going to be space in the case for FUCKGOATS, 2.5" SSD's etc
14:30 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: 4 pads for FG ( could moar, but could interfere with air )
14:30 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Aite
14:30 asciilifeform and 2 2.5" ssd
14:32 asciilifeform the primary win of closed 1u chassis for rk is proper, civilized forced air
14:32 asciilifeform presently i blame 100% of the headaches in pilot plant, on lack of proper air
14:33 BingoBoingo Well, lack of proper air and original plastic insulated USD disks
14:33 asciilifeform even these, i suspect, would've lived 4x longer w/ air.
14:35 BingoBoingo Maybe, but there just wasn't more than 5 to 10-ish square mm of metal surface exposed on them for air to do much heat exchanging
14:35 asciilifeform tru
14:40 BingoBoingo And it looks like we have consecutive days of TRB constipation 592597 has yet to enter the canon
14:42 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: yest.'s episode cemented in my head the insufficiency of my orig. 'aggression' patch. i strongly suspect The Right Thing is some variant of ben's. with the orig., node eats 5-10 blox when connects to trb peers on restart, then the connections stable and gets nomoar for hours. whereas on ea. restart, in facts gets the 5-10.
14:43 asciilifeform ( iirc in ben_vulpes's variant, 'if no block for 10min+, milk all peers' )
14:43 BingoBoingo Well, I just restarted one ~15 minutes ago. Has yet to pull the missing block.
14:44 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: 'can only pull rabbit from hat if rabbit is in fact in the hat'(tm)
14:44 BingoBoingo Indeed
14:44 asciilifeform i was speaking specifically of 'i ~know~ these people have x, so why do i only get x-10,x-9,... when connecting to'em and then nuffin' )
14:48 asciilifeform the correct frequency with which situation 'trb node a is at height H, its peer trb node b is at H-k, for hour+' oughta happen, is ~never~
14:49 BingoBoingo I'm suspecting a lot of nodes on the intermediate PRB version numbers 0.8, 0.9, etc before peer-to-peer pki-ism are falling enough that we may have few bridges allowing communication between prb and trb
14:50 asciilifeform before considering any such horror, rly oughta fix propagation b/w trb !!
14:51 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: and fwiw i suspect that the entire set of >7 nodes is 100% solid dross, and responsible for 0 block conveyance
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14:52 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: think, this is elementary. as soon as they issue a 'bloomism' or similar cmd to a trb node -- they get malleus'd. and yet we still get blox in realtime for 6-7 months at a stretch.
14:53 asciilifeform ( moreover, they issue it -- and get the ban -- a few msec after connecting. ergo they are responsible for 0 brought blox, and in fact we gain 0 from talking to them )
14:55 asciilifeform to formalize : asciilifeform's current hypothesis is that there is a thin 'tube' of trb-compat. nodes b/w pekin & trb orchestra. responsible for 100% of new blox.
14:56 asciilifeform whereas the 4000 or however many pseudonodes making up the claimed heathen net -- simply get in the way.
14:56 asciilifeform currently i lack the tools with which to solidly prove or refute this hypothesis. but fwiw have not yet encountered any clue which would contradict it.
14:58 asciilifeform the most helpful currently unavailable tool would be a troo and honest survey of publicly-reachable nodes of erry type. ( via port scan of ipv4 and subsequent interrogation , by properly-written proggy. )
14:58 asciilifeform atm no one has the hands for this, sadly.
14:59 asciilifeform currently 0 is publicly known re the actual state of the net ( the heathen 'survey' www's are ~disinfo~, they deliberately conceal specifically the nodes we are interested in. )
15:03 asciilifeform will add : survey of public nodez will also tell us something re the nonpublic ( unless the folx talking to these, took deliberate care to modify their public noad to avoid listing'em in the disgorged peer table )
15:05 asciilifeform iirc past coupla yrs of prb won't even give peers table. but i'm not interested so much in what prb nodes have to say to begin with.
15:07 asciilifeform ... cuz they fucking aint nodes. they're enemy outputs that do strictly as little 'node-ing' as can get away with and still dupe idiots into operating.
15:08 asciilifeform *outposts
15:11 BingoBoingo Generally that is the object to allowing weeds to thrive. They choke out everything else.
15:14 asciilifeform some subset of chinese are almost certainly tuned into prb net specifically to collect that delish candy of eventually-unwindable 'pay-anyone' segshit tx.
15:14 asciilifeform some subset -- not.
15:18 asciilifeform ( from my pov -- making the sig optional was ~the~ shitoshi design bug, all the other retardations are scarcely anything if stood in comparison to it )
15:24 asciilifeform as i understand , all that'd be needed to bring that shitshow to a permanent close, is a dozen or so blocks mined w/ '51%' thrust, containing the segshit unwinds.
15:25 asciilifeform it's already , likely, a +ev proposition. and the only thing preventing this nuke from firing, is the cowardice of the folx holding the detonator.
15:27 asciilifeform marx -- was wrong, i suspect, when wrote that 'for 200% profit, capitalist will sell mother; for 300% -- will go to almost certain noose'. he did not account for cowardice.
15:28 BingoBoingo Well USG.State still feels comfortable trying to throw the Cantonese speakers against the Mandarin speakers. Gotta wait for the white worms to internalize their worthlessness
15:29 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: nobody ever 'internalized worthlessness', they sit around w/ wagner an' cyanide and bloviate re their 'aryan superiority' even as the tanks wind'em up onto treads
15:30 asciilifeform see also mircea_popescu's 'and they won't yield' piece re subj.
15:30 BingoBoingo At some point some of them realize there are tanks treads to evade for which there is no answer other than Mujica's "No hay que ponerse delante de las tanques"
15:33 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: consider, usg.dos et al dun seem to have any trouble finding bottomless supply of orcs quite ready to 'ponerse delante de las tanques' in the name of clitler.
15:35 asciilifeform ( apropos of subj -- it is interesting to consider why 'tiananmen wank' is a thing in cn. the not-so-seekrit answer is that open discussion of subj would indeed cost the crowned heads their necks -- but ~not~ for 'ohnoez, killing protesters' -- but instead ~for having left any alive~. their 'grievances' included e.g. 'how dare pekin permit sons of peasants to enter university' . )
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15:36 asciilifeform i.e. current cn politburo is ~soft~. sided w/ pantsuit !
15:36 asciilifeform went to 'compromise'.
15:37 BingoBoingo 1999 book by now deceased Israeli. Intro by Gore Vidal. Probably the best English language resource on why USG and Israel insist on suicide pacting together. https://archive.org/stream/JewishHistoryJewishReligion_665/JewishFundamentalismInIsrael_djvu.txt 1999 book by now deceased
15:38 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: this q never struck me as a deep mystery. angloreich gotta have its 'unsinkable carriers', israel, taiwan, south kr, etc
15:38 asciilifeform all exist for roughly same reason.
15:38 asciilifeform south vietnam was gonna be on the list, but 'oops'
15:39 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: re israel -- consider fact that stalin happily funded it, while it was -- briefly -- a bone in the throat of angloreich, rather than province in good standing of same
15:40 asciilifeform !qs altalena
15:40 snsabot 6 results for "altalena" in #trilema
15:40 asciilifeform ^ see also re subj.
15:45 BingoBoingo Dr. Shahak covers certain aspects of the talmud/rabbinic tradition that don't get earnestly translated into English much with respect in ingroup/outgroup. Covers some specific aspects that get adopted as policy through unholy mixture of modern democracy and pre-internet missives on communications ethics.
15:46 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: ~100% of the folx who gave rat's arse re 'talmudic tradition' went in the ovens. i.e. it has as much to do with the current 'unsinkable carrier' as the spew of thomas aquinas has to do with current usg.
15:47 asciilifeform which is to say -- not 0, but epsilon as close to 0 as you might like.
15:48 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Perhaps earnestly, yes. Then you fill up a strip of desert with refugees, tell them they have an identity. What do they do when they get the old books? They start cargo culting themselves into super special snowflakes. Being super special snowflakes together is the core of the US-Israel alliance.
15:49 asciilifeform searching for 'talmudic' underpinnings of curent il is a favourite, i'm aware, preoccupation of 'armchair archaeologists', in much the same spirit as 'pedo-pizza proofs'
15:49 BingoBoingo Otherwise the Turks are perfectly friendly, civilized, and big.
15:50 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Which is why I discount that space except for the folks inside that camp screaming "This is why they keep doing it to US!"
15:51 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: imho it's entirely reminiscent of anglo 'sovietologists' who tried to 'find out what makes them reds tick' by reading engels
15:53 asciilifeform sometimes, believe or not, answer is not 'in the book', but in front of nose.
15:54 asciilifeform ( tho folx who dun like what is in front of nose -- will happily bury selves in 'the books', or in pedopizza reddit, etc )
15:57 BingoBoingo Well the text is a Holocaust survivor presenting: "Three Druze soldiers who served in Goldstein's battalion approached their commander and asked for another doctor to be stationed in their battalion, because they were afraid that Goldstein would refuse to treat them in case they were wounded. Because of their request Goldstein was reassigned to another battalion."
16:00 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: phunphakt -- in early-period israel, 'localhost surviver' wasn't considered worth to brag, it was seen (generally correctly) as ~= 'quisling'
16:00 asciilifeform 'why you fuck -- alive, while my father -- dead ??'
16:01 asciilifeform later -- phase change, and became 'honorific' .
16:01 asciilifeform !qs kastner
16:01 snsabot 1 results for "kastner" in #trilema
16:02 asciilifeform hm.
16:02 asciilifeform from horse's mouth.
16:03 * asciilifeform bbl:meat
16:06 BingoBoingo And here we are. It's 2019. The Chinese are big. Russia is selling a missile plus radar picket system designed to make "Shock and Awe" operations impossible. The first F-35 joint strike fighters become operational and http://qntra.net/2019/07/israelis-enthusiastically-burning-f-35s-stealth-window-with-strikes-now-in-iraq/
16:11 BingoBoingo I don't see anything other than a martial interpretation of Argentinism (Modern Democracy) at work. Rah, Rah, We R Kool and God/IMFLoans/SovereignDefault/Buitres will indemnify our tribe in the end so long as we appear to go through the motions.
16:21 BingoBoingo Anyways,my criticism of antisemites is they read way too much of each other's wank and not enough of what their target say to each other.
16:24 mod6 lobbes: thanks for your thoughts, I appreciate that.
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16:52 diana_coman http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-31#1932647 - cronjobs set and db dump already available.
16:52 snsabot Logged on 2019-08-31 13:24:01 diana_coman: asciilifeform: thank you; I haven't yet set the cron jobs, yes; will do it later today.
16:53 diana_coman the scripts for bot & reader are a bit iffier in that I couldn't test them (and they look different from asciilifeform's because of the python version on centos).
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17:20 mircea_popescu http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-30#1932530 << good luck with it!
17:20 snsabot Logged on 2019-08-30 15:41:21 mod6: the important thing for me is that i'm resolved to not just sit around and wait for things to happen to me, re: 9-5 tarpit. im starting down a path of emacipation from that. might take some time, but not too much time.
17:22 asciilifeform diana_coman: go ahead and make a 'centos' in /contrib or where were these, in vtree, other folx may want'em
17:22 mircea_popescu http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-30#1932542 << let him focus on that one thing and get it done. doing 1-2 hour of sweat here and there little things is for when time is flowing to your advantage.
17:22 snsabot Logged on 2019-08-30 15:48:20 asciilifeform: mod6: depending on whether you have a box where can run python & postgres, it is maybe 1-2hrs of sweat.
17:22 asciilifeform i can't imagine diana_coman is the only 1
17:22 mircea_popescu http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-30#1932550 << indeed the very point.
17:22 snsabot Logged on 2019-08-30 15:52:11 asciilifeform: imho an orchestra of log mirrors / bot boxen is a notbad prelude to the eventual gossipdification .
17:23 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i suggested mirrorism to mod6 cuz iirc it's the type of chore he's historically a++ in. as i understand lobbes is 99% of the way to 3rd logger , so not exactly burning , tru
17:25 mircea_popescu not a matter of burning. a matter of, in his position, he has ONE thing to do, and it must be done immediately. time is ticking away. that's NOT when you start picking up small side quests.
17:25 asciilifeform fair'nuff
17:25 mircea_popescu http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-30#1932588 << want this on the av list ?
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17:25 snsabot Logged on 2019-08-30 17:55:26 diana_coman: test line citing works, quite nice
17:34 mircea_popescu http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-30#1932622 << wouldn't even be that surprising ; freenode's about as dead as disco
17:34 snsabot Logged on 2019-08-30 23:38:39 asciilifeform: will be lulzy if we even end up with bigger net than fleanode, simply from the junk boxen people ~already~ have.
17:35 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: they've, what, iirc -- 7 ? working boxen left
17:35 mircea_popescu i recall going through the chans at some point , ~0 live material came up
17:36 mircea_popescu http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-31#1932635 << lobbes sounds like he's found the light!
17:36 snsabot Logged on 2019-08-31 01:58:05 lobbes: mod6: take it from me, please, the best thing I ever did was start blogging/writing things down/*expressing* myself. Only through this kind of reflection (and by this I mean analyzing the reasoning you used in the past for action and analyzing your reasoning for future action), and through the critical eye of others can that fog even start to clear
17:37 diana_coman http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-31#1932750 - yes please.
17:37 snsabot Logged on 2019-08-31 17:25:44 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-30#1932588 << want this on the av list ?
17:37 mircea_popescu http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-31#1932644 << god damn, i suspect the client ate a line.
17:37 snsabot Logged on 2019-08-31 11:33:34 trinque: mircea_popescu: didn't get a !!v for that one
17:38 asciilifeform btw re trb : BingoBoingo et al : http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/trb/whogave_10_20_2018-8_31_2019.txt << almost 1y of 'who-gave' blox log .
17:38 mircea_popescu how the fuck did i do the autovoice thing...
17:41 mircea_popescu for future reference, it's /msg chanserv flags #trilema ossabot +V
17:43 diana_coman http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-08-31#1932766 - ty
17:43 ossabot Logged on 2019-08-31 17:56:46 mircea_popescu: for future reference, it's /msg chanserv flags #trilema ossabot +V
17:43 mircea_popescu >D
17:43 asciilifeform btw : awk '{print $8}' whogave_10_20_2018-8_31_2019.txt | sort | uniq > givers.txt >> less than 200 nodez !
17:44 mircea_popescu http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-31#1932677 << this is quite so.
17:44 snsabot Logged on 2019-08-31 14:51:24 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: and fwiw i suspect that the entire set of >7 nodes is 100% solid dross, and responsible for 0 block conveyance
17:46 asciilifeform i.e. 46115 blox, from 182 nodez !
17:47 asciilifeform and 0 from anyone else. (zoolag, asciilifeform's personal noad)
17:48 asciilifeform 5205 of these from piz alone .
17:55 asciilifeform ( to be utterly pedantic : the however-many ~other~ peers, they got connected , ~were asked for next block~, and ~said 'fuckoff'~ ! )
17:59 asciilifeform from this log, it would imho not be a mistake to say that there are approx 200 boxen that could be described as btc nodes . the rest -- are https://www.oglaf.com/humans/ .
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17:59 asciilifeform (i.e. as seen from the publicly-reachable net. )
18:00 asciilifeform entirely possib. that the actual # is smaller yet -- some % of the 182 may be folx on dynamic ips, or since dead, or otherwise >1 to 1 ratio of ip in log to physically-alive machine .
18:03 asciilifeform anyone else running a trb w/ 'who-gave' -- invited to publish theirs .
18:06 BingoBoingo In the end humans on the internet fits in the Dunbar number while "humans" on the internet are uncountably prolific
18:18 * asciilifeform waves to the lurker from argentina searching asciilifeform's log for 'learn ru'
18:25 asciilifeform 3y of lurk oughta be enuff for anyone, imho !
18:26 asciilifeform report to #a, herr lurker, get yer uniform & spade . dun let life pass by while watching .
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19:13 asciilifeform btw , re nodez : while read p; do echo -n `grep -c $p whogave_10_20_2018-8_31_2019.txt` " " >> givers_count.txt ; echo $p >> givers_count.txt ; done < givers.txt ; sort -r -n -k1 givers_count.txt > givers_sorted.txt >>> yields this .
19:15 asciilifeform will put in l0gz, ftr : the only nodes that gave >100 blox of the 46115 :
19:15 asciilifeform 11638:188.121.168.69, 7330:208.94.240.42, 6841:188.165.209.181, 4665:161.0.121.248, 4049:82.79.58.192, 3456:50.65.189.23, 1945:158.140.128.224, 1782:193.93.74.78 .
19:15 asciilifeform err, >1000
19:16 asciilifeform together these 8 accounted for 41706 blox, i.e. >90% of the total mass.
19:19 asciilifeform #4 place winner is BingoBoingo at piz ; #2 i think is BingoBoingo's old box in usa, if i'm not mistaken
19:19 asciilifeform the rest -- i have nfi
19:20 asciilifeform #1 is something in, loox like slovakia, possibly jurov
19:21 asciilifeform >25% of total mass, that one.
19:23 * asciilifeform bbl:meat
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20:37 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: 4th is TBF at #pizarro
20:45 asciilifeform a.
20:47 asciilifeform #3 -- sumthing in france ; 5 -- ro; 6 -- canada; 7 -- singapur (trinque?) ; 8 -- slovak , like #1 .
20:51 asciilifeform here's 1 moar tidbit : 172.86.178.46 , 216.151.13.77 , and 91.218.246.31 appear in zoolag's -addnode list but have NOT supplied 1 single block in the entire period represented in above log !!!
20:51 asciilifeform i'ma remove'em, unless the owners (who runs these, fess up...) fix'em and write in.
20:54 asciilifeform the 2nd in this set, dun even ping nomoar.
20:55 asciilifeform the 1st dun answer on 8333 nomoar.
20:56 asciilifeform the 3rd, still seems to be a noad, of some description. just, catches no mice.
20:57 asciilifeform for thread-completeness -- if anyone has a trb that aint in my addnode ( the piz nodes -- already are in ) and would like it included -- plox to comment.
21:02 feedbot http://qntra.net/2019/09/qntra-s-qntr-august-2019-report/ << Qntra -- Qntra (S.QNTR) August 2019 Report
21:04 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: zoolag at 592682 , btw, as of 1min ago.
21:05 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Desk sitting at 592682 as well
21:07 trinque asciilifeform: nope, my trb is in uy
21:07 asciilifeform trinque: then i have nfi whose
21:07 asciilifeform iirc diana_coman has 1 in asia somewhere also
21:08 trinque btw rockchips acquired
21:08 asciilifeform a++
21:08 asciilifeform trinque: lemme know if you need hints re fiddling (in particular uart is gnarly)
21:09 asciilifeform has iirc martian baud rate
21:09 trinque kk, for now going to boot an arm64 whatever and poke around
21:09 asciilifeform a standard FG usb uartron can be used to talk to rk
21:10 * trinque has piles from prior arduino and (shaem) rpi doings
21:10 asciilifeform trinque: example with ftdi .
21:10 asciilifeform ^ photo from asciilifeform's test beds
21:11 asciilifeform be sure thing is set for 3.3v.
21:13 asciilifeform trinque: quickest way to 'gimme sumthing that boots' is prolly mine .
21:13 asciilifeform ^ and has gcc etc. so can work.
21:14 asciilifeform pre-configged btw to shit tty0 to that uart.
21:14 asciilifeform so can set to work even if no network etc
21:15 * trinque goes to fire up the little guys
21:15 asciilifeform trinque: the linked recipe gives you the closest thing there was to a working gentoo circa '18 .
21:15 asciilifeform ( even 'emerge' will actually work, so long as you remember not to --sync )
21:15 trinque btw mircea_popescu, I'm around if you want to fire off that tx
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21:19 asciilifeform trinque if you encounter any grrr re rk, put in the log, i'ma answer asap.
21:19 * asciilifeform bbl,moar meat
21:19 trinque will do.
21:19 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> a standard FG usb uartron can be used to talk to rk << Can it? You had me order a uart shipped here from the pastoral countryside
21:20 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: afaik it can, but needs coaxing to set the baud.
21:20 * asciilifeform genuinely bbl
21:33 trinque btw, spyked did you actually have a theory whereby my irc bot sits doing w/e for so long it doesn't respond to pings in time?
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21:34 trinque the most it does is insert w/e message into the db.
~ 2 hours 23 minutes ~
23:57 asciilifeform trinque: i doubt this is the cause, mine lives on a box w/ quite heavy load, and so far 0 disconnects to date (aside from coupla hand restarts)
23:57 asciilifeform !q uptime
23:57 snsabot asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 15d 13h 33m
23:58 asciilifeform when i was experimenting, found that you can get away with 20-30s delay b/w 'ping' and 'pong' and not get thrown
23:58 asciilifeform (i.e. it is in fact possible to fleanode with hands! via telnet)
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