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00:19 trinque dorion: the bot is as far as I can tell accessible.
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02:12 feedbot http://ave1.org/2019/lisp-documenting-my-encounter-with-step-1/ << ave1 -- Lisp, documenting my encounter with, step #1
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03:07 mp_en_viaje !!deposit 0.05
03:07 deedbot http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/gHK5w/?raw=true
03:07 mp_en_viaje dorion, ^ expected behaviour.
03:07 mp_en_viaje the likely reason you got no answer is that indeed you need a rating, and that it takes up to 1 day for ratings to propagate
03:08 mp_en_viaje in other "so fucking cute omg", > Dear blog, Yesterday I started to learn the LISP language.
03:23 * mp_en_viaje proposes ~the absence~ of ave1 's last post (as a class of item) as the principal failing of non-critical cultures. it's true that the fat old women participating don't have to deal with the "emotional pain" of fatness or oldness being discussion. in exchange however, the price one pays is that aves can't learn lisp. because if you don't have a space where to explain why you think it's stupid, nor an infrastructure of ready
03:23 mp_en_viaje symbols and tools to satisfactorily (nevermind correctly, that's not a subjective step) state the private symbols in one's head, learning is simply off the table.
03:24 * mp_en_viaje very much prefers being "that idiot who can't even" to anything else, if in exchange the typical esr-tardisms as per above don't get a foothold.
03:26 mp_en_viaje meanwhile, light fucking hurts, thanks god for blockout curtains.
03:26 mp_en_viaje hanbot : ru snippet just says "ty for your letter we will answer asap" sorta boilerplate.
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04:08 ave1 mp_en_viaje: yes, that is the intended purpose, I hope I'll get some reactions if not at least it could work as a reference to my future self (how could I be so fucking stupid as to not see...)
04:09 mp_en_viaje very much win.
04:10 mp_en_viaje i suppose the slogan for this'd be "agreement isn't learning like ritalin isn't medicine and global warming isn't science"
04:10 ave1 My first fault was to not directly write these thoughts down. Now I have (1) a backlog of items already taken in (2) had to spent an hour making the post.
04:11 ave1 *extra* hour
04:11 mp_en_viaje yeah. this is a lifelong thing, getting ironed out just about permanently.
04:11 mp_en_viaje considering my own case, here i sit behind curtains, surrounded by empty bottles of water, writing down whatever snippets i can remember of yesterday.
04:12 mp_en_viaje everyone else'd just sleep, because sure as fuck catering to one's intellectual life is way the fuck inconvenient, who the fuck even heard of inane shit like "interrupt partying to note"
04:13 mp_en_viaje then on the other hand, waiting until $whatever is ALSO inconvenient.
04:14 mp_en_viaje chiefly because, soon enough it manages to ratchet itself into being strictly impossible.
04:17 ave1 yes, the "I'll write it down later". And then later, no way you get it to come out as intended. Although the idea is still in my head.
04:18 mp_en_viaje quite. and then memory fades, and reinterprets, and soon enough all that;s left in the head is a list of proofs that each possible approach is actually unauthentic.
04:18 mp_en_viaje which is FUCKING INFURIATING
04:19 ave1 As my job is now mostly communicating, I see the same thing with *meetings*. I explained the idea just fine and now the writing down becomes impossible, *because of that meeting*.
04:20 mp_en_viaje quite. every possible event, even "unrelated" events is a rock thrown in the pond. now get it to reflect again, why not, what, you can't recompute wavefunctions for 10e30 particles in your head on the fly ?
04:22 mp_en_viaje large portion of why i don't even do non-irc, wtf "voicecall" bs. if i explain it here, i know i have ~at least enough~ to reconstruct later ; and that is good enough.
04:22 mp_en_viaje and when it isn't, can't find shit, get pissed off, throw things around, think about how to fix the structure so doesn't recurr...
04:23 mp_en_viaje i know of no other definition for "life of the mind" besides this. this is what that is.
04:34 ave1 yes, *fuck* I just got interrupted and now the whole idea about reading the log and *not* directly writing down reactions (if any ofcourse), gone..
04:42 mp_en_viaje yw
04:42 mp_en_viaje :D
04:43 mp_en_viaje in other supporting news, the punishment for interrupting me in the harem is often a fate worse than lashing.
04:53 ave1 I was expecting that (and thinking about it in fact).
04:54 ave1 and in number of functions described in common lisp spec: 438 (see http://ave1.org/2019/lisp-documenting-my-encounter-with-step-1/#comment-233)
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06:51 feedbot http://trilema.com/2019/the-tale-of-three-soups-or-goodbye-minsk/ << Trilema -- The Tale of Three Soups, or Goodbye Minsk!
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07:45 spyked http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-26#1925061 <-- yes indeed! the graphviz src file is at http://thetarpit.org/uploads/2019/07/hunchentootarch.dot , as linked from http://thetarpit.org/posts/y06/097-hunchentoot-iii.html#fn2
07:45 a111 Logged on 2019-07-26 16:45 diana_coman: spyked: is that generated manually with graphviz?
07:49 spyked http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-26#1925066 <-- the irony being that thetarpit comments implementation is dependent on the www server discussed in the post. the good part about this is that I should be able to do something about this soon; prolly not in the next 2-3 posts, but much sooner than I was before starting work on this.
07:49 a111 Logged on 2019-07-26 18:53 mp_en_viaje: im guessing for this one time http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/fn1VH/?raw=true will have to be it ; but for the love of christ, what are you doing to me here ? am i going to simply ignore your articles because i know for a fact i'm not interestreded in reading something i can't comment on and you're forcing on me the dilemma of either not commenting at all or else losing it in pastes ? this won't do, if i use an hour to read a post i
07:51 spyked meanwhile, I'll do something similar to last time: I'll reproduce the comment ad literam at the end of the post and answer below it. and until this is solved, I personally don't mind taking comments here or in any other channel that I reside in (e.g. #spyked)
07:55 mp_en_viaje that's mighty kind of ye.
08:03 spyked it's entirely my fault for posting on half-a-blog (without comments and trackbacks) for all this time
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09:10 spyked mp_en_viaje, answer'd: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y06/097-hunchentoot-iii.html#comment1
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10:02 lobbes Gooood morning #trilema. Coming live from the new fortress de lobbes. So peaceful I can hear myself think again
10:03 lobbes in other news, I spent a good 4 hours last night chatting with this new girly whose arms actually "grow from the right organ", as alf is fond of saying. It was a fucking pleasure for a change. Gonna try to introduce her to the logs and see if it takes.
10:03 * lobbes off to buy a desk and a chair so as to get that #eulora logotron coad published. bbl
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11:51 asciilifeform meanwhile, in rare finds : useful www-operated compiler/disasmer w/ selectable gcc
12:00 BingoBoingo In local news, leaks on how the leftist sausage is made http://archive.is/vepPr
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12:40 mp_en_viaje wb lobbes lol!
12:40 mp_en_viaje slow and steady does it, btw. new beginnings are exciting, but new girls require patience.
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12:40 mp_en_viaje asciilifeform, interesting, dun think i ever saw that before.
12:41 asciilifeform me neither. and pretty handy. ( if it knew how to eat gnat, would be even handier )
12:50 mp_en_viaje spyked, my two "objections", as i'm sure you noticed, tend towards a broad "omfg, bad habits" sorta something.
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12:50 feedbot http://qntra.net/2019/07/ransomware-state-of-emergency-in-louisiana/ << Qntra -- Ransomware State Of Emergency In Louisiana
12:51 mp_en_viaje as far as your practical example : do not genesis parts ; include the 12 things in yoru genersis if they are needed.
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12:54 mp_en_viaje and yes we should be doing this like yesterday or so. we should have been doing it ike yesterday or so, hence eg http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-01#1868413 or http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-29#1855672 etc.
12:54 a111 Logged on 2018-11-01 17:49 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, maybe your thread. my thread was re "are we fucking idiots ?! we have a foundation that wants to publish statements of the nothing as its only output, we have a bunch of smart people not helping our own industry avoid pitfals, and in this vein forever"
12:54 a111 Logged on 2018-09-29 23:35 mircea_popescu: but as far as the foundation is concerned -- if all it does (ALL IT DOES!!!) is stand up to tell me "oh, we can't follow the keccak because reasons" ima put an end to it in short order.
12:56 mp_en_viaje but no, the querstion is not nor ever could be "why does lord prefer republican process over non-republican process", because of the very definitions of terms. if he doesn't prefer republican process he isn't a lord, irrespective what any text anywhere might be misleadingly stating ; and in any case any text anywhere will be brought into allignment with this theory sooner or later.
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14:16 dorion !!deposit 0.05
14:30 dorion trinque any insight into why no response was produced ? I note wot.deedbot.org is updated with my key.
14:37 trinque dorion: give it another try for me?
14:39 dorion !!deposit 0.05
14:40 trinque thanks, one se
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15:36 trinque dorion: something's jacked with account creation. I'll ping you when I have it fixed.
15:41 dorion trinque thank you, Sir.
15:50 feedbot http://trilema.com/2019/derpy-sluttyev-or-how-shall-i-call-this/ << Trilema -- Derpy Sluttyev, or how shall I call this...
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16:20 trinque dorion: should work for you now.
16:23 dorion !!deposit 0.05
16:23 deedbot http://p.bvulpes.com/
16:24 trinque fuck's sake
16:24 trinque sec.
16:25 trinque and once more with gusto
16:25 dorion !!deposit 0.05
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16:26 deedbot http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/wrmN5/?raw=true
16:26 trinque there we go.
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