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06:08 mircea_popescu nicoleci http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/VNsVD/?raw=true
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07:34 mircea_popescu hmm, so since i'm building a gaming station... what's the republican notions for gfx-heavy os ?
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07:34 mircea_popescu latest gentoo ? or /
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07:56 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: what do you think of as 'gfx-heavy' ?
08:00 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-01#1916464 << updated with fixed typo and with link to diana_coman's illustrated ch1-4 guide, originally missing
08:00 a111 Logged on 2019-06-01 02:12 feedbot: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=3386 << Loper OS -- Finite Field Arithmetic. Chapter 18C: Peh School: Generation of Cryptographic Primes.
08:05 asciilifeform if i omitted anyone else's ffaisms, plox to lemme know. ( PeterL: your item will be in 19 )
08:09 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: thinking re 'gfx-heavy' : might be interesting to try the recent years' opensores nvidia driver. (supposedly it actually worx.) perhaps send a pet to set it up.
08:09 asciilifeform asciilifeform has not had chance to try this any time recently, and afaik no one in l1 reported such an experiment.
08:11 asciilifeform oughta be doable on any linuxism with relatively recent (3+) kernel, iirc. incl. the cuntoo draft.
08:16 mircea_popescu asciilifeform, ima ul some pics yo uget an idea
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08:34 mircea_popescu asciilifeform, http://trilema.com/2019/further-unboxings-continuatory-motorcycle/
08:34 * asciilifeform looks..
08:34 asciilifeform lol i have 1 of these in a recently-sewn box
08:34 asciilifeform i think exactly same brand even
08:35 mircea_popescu so what do you run it on ?
08:35 asciilifeform asciilifeform's old gentoo with evil kmod turd from nv, currently
08:35 asciilifeform it's a cad box
08:37 asciilifeform i'd stuff that thing in a chassis of some kind btw. else it's only matter of time till you elbow it and snap the card edge imho
08:37 asciilifeform that 1070 is heavy bugger
08:37 mircea_popescu o yes, it's in a chassis now.
08:37 asciilifeform a.
08:37 mircea_popescu innit tho ? lifting the motherboard with it i had this distinct impression it's gonna snap right under it
08:38 asciilifeform aha!
08:38 mircea_popescu took it off, put motherboard in screws first, then added it again
08:38 asciilifeform hedgehog mass
08:38 mircea_popescu but i can't fucking run old gentoo on it. for one thing, what games even run on old gentoo ?
08:38 mircea_popescu shit, actually -- what games even are ?!
08:39 asciilifeform supposedly ye olde 'wine' has 3dism naodays
08:39 asciilifeform but i confess, not tried
08:39 asciilifeform ( naturally winblows will eat the 1070, but i dun imagine mircea_popescu was asking 'which winblows to get' lol )
08:40 mircea_popescu notryl tbh
08:40 mircea_popescu last i looked into this, cca 2004, linux was JUST about to eat windows' lunch
08:40 mircea_popescu then i did other things, and i come back 15 years later to discover -- "linux, wut, where you been granpa"
08:41 asciilifeform at any rate 1070 drives e.g. newfangled 3840x2160 lcd, a+++
08:41 mircea_popescu fucking unpleasant.
08:41 asciilifeform ( even eats 4 of'em w/out skipping a beat )
08:41 mircea_popescu nice huh ?
08:42 mircea_popescu i don't mind the hardware -- i just wish to know what software anyone knows of.
08:42 mircea_popescu so far "get a modern gentoo" seems the only (if vague) option ?
08:42 asciilifeform 'modern' as in kern 3+ is really all
08:42 mircea_popescu what's gentoo even use ? gtk ?
08:43 asciilifeform lol why gtk. e.g. asciilifeform has plain old x, cum 'ratpoison'
08:43 asciilifeform presumably you didn't buy the card to draw transparent backgrounds in shells with lol
08:43 mircea_popescu and what games do you run on it ?
08:44 asciilifeform none
08:44 mircea_popescu well then ?
08:44 asciilifeform tho supposedly 'valve' has linux gamez
08:44 * asciilifeform has not gamed much in recent times; not since embarking on multiyr maffs grind
08:45 asciilifeform as i understand mircea_popescu's own eulora knows what to do with 3d card tho ( can't picture why would need whole 1070 however , for such )
08:46 mircea_popescu i wanted to try the outside world
08:46 asciilifeform afaik this mostly means microshit
08:47 asciilifeform ( w7, if one must, eats 1070, with some fiddling )
08:47 mircea_popescu or else https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2019/05/24/ubuntu-19-10-nvidia-proprietary-gpu-driver-iso-linux/ i guess ?
08:48 asciilifeform aha, what i had on mine. ( not ubuntu, naturally, but vendor's binturd installer actually does shit forth a loadable kmod , and goes on conventional gentoos for so long as k 3+ )
08:49 mircea_popescu anyone tried the mint thing /
08:49 asciilifeform then anyffin that talks to openglism-under-x worx.
08:49 mircea_popescu !#s linux mint
08:49 a111 20 results for "linux mint", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=linux%20mint
08:49 * asciilifeform has not, never felt compelled to use oddball bindist linuxen just because sewn box with 3dcard
08:49 mircea_popescu asciilifeform, i'd much rather dump a package deal than baby this box. i figure the grand or so it cost ain't worth an hour of my time
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08:50 mircea_popescu and it already took about half that ordering an' puttign together
08:50 asciilifeform generally i have a use thought up for box before arising off arse to sew one , lol
08:50 mircea_popescu a wait. linux mint === ubuntu.
08:50 feedbot http://trilema.com/2019/further-unboxings-continuatory-motorcycle/ << Trilema -- Further unboxings (continuatory motorcycle)
08:50 mircea_popescu asciilifeform, i DO have a use for the box. "find out how the other half lives"
08:51 asciilifeform sounds like it's condemned to eat w7 then
08:51 asciilifeform unless you're 'valve' aficionado
08:51 mircea_popescu "zorin os", "an Ubuntu-based, highly polished Linux distribution, entirely made for Windows refugees."
08:51 mircea_popescu holy shit what.
08:51 mircea_popescu asciilifeform, what's w7 ?
08:51 asciilifeform ( there is nominally a 'steam for linux' . asciilifeform not tested. )
08:51 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: microshit's , i meant
08:52 mircea_popescu i was gonna go for steam but then they took off bitcoin. so meh.
08:52 asciilifeform they were all a++ on warez last i knew.
08:53 asciilifeform ( the last 1 i personally touched was 'portal' )
08:54 mircea_popescu "Manjaro Linux comes in XFCE, KDE, Gnome, Cinnamon and a host of more desktop environments. Do check out the official website." lawds mercy
08:54 mircea_popescu is valve an os by now btw ?
08:54 asciilifeform they have some sorta nintendobox iirc, with handsewn linux
08:55 asciilifeform but afaik not a pc-style os, no
08:55 mircea_popescu all these game platform people are fucked in the head for not making their own serials-filed os.
08:55 asciilifeform ( asciilifeform's brother slaved for 'valve' for a spell, but it's been some yrs since this )
08:55 diana_coman now I'm rather curious if mircea_popescu finds any "other half" re games, lol
08:56 mircea_popescu diana_coman, ikr
08:56 * asciilifeform liked 'portal', but it aint exactly 'recent'
08:57 asciilifeform in 'portal', a chix walks around with a sort of blaster that opens wormholes b/w any two targets. 3distic puzzler thing.
08:57 mircea_popescu amusingly, a "great" (according to all the slobbering kiddies) gaming comp can be had for what a slut trip takes per day. notwithstanding the suddenly looming question of whether there's even anything to do with it once you get it.
08:58 asciilifeform indeed it can, i dun think this is surprise to anyone
08:58 mircea_popescu asciilifeform, i tend to play things like heroes, diablo, fallout etc.
08:58 asciilifeform about 1k dubloons gets you all the game warez box anyone might want
08:58 mircea_popescu asciilifeform, when i was a kid, a top notch gaming comp was like a year's labour.
08:58 asciilifeform i recall this time.
08:59 mircea_popescu https://store.steampowered.com/steamos << apparently they made a debian 8 flavour
08:59 asciilifeform the irons cheapened, but game people lost the spark of life, very little made these days that eats 3d card other than infinite variations on tired old shooter theme
09:01 mircea_popescu well, apparently i could auto-install steamos on it.
09:01 asciilifeform oh ha
09:02 diana_coman out of curiosity I went and checked "requirements" for "no man's sky" (I keep hearing of it, possibly because it's made a few km away from my location): ps2 or windows 7; and the game will take up around 10GB of storage, lolz.
09:02 asciilifeform i saw one vaguely original thing coupla yrs ago, iirc was 'far cry' -- very ornately graphixy thing set in... stone age. ( twist : character is able to tame animals and lead a sort of army )
09:02 asciilifeform diana_coman: i saw . decent 'elite' variant
09:03 asciilifeform iirc
09:04 asciilifeform diana_coman: naodays aint even uncommon to see game eat 50-100GB !
09:04 mircea_popescu so basically, if i install steamos, then i can pay eg 35 eur to play sme random title.
09:04 asciilifeform ( textures! )
09:05 mircea_popescu not a bad racket, 1k to build box + 2-5k/mo to buy virtual cartridges.
09:05 mircea_popescu i ain't fucking doing this.
09:05 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: in principle. ( this is where asciilifeform confesses that he has never in entire life eaten game other than from warez... )
09:06 mircea_popescu i generally pay whatever, 20-50 bux / mo for a game i'm actually playing, on the theory that the fucks who made it, let them eat.
09:06 asciilifeform i , also, never had appetite for ' blow k/mo on virtual cartridge' heh
09:07 mircea_popescu but i will not consider this upfront sorta nonsense.
09:07 mircea_popescu you wanna get paid, bill net30 or some shit wtf is this.
09:07 asciilifeform is why god made warez aha
09:07 mircea_popescu List of 15 Best Linux Games For 2018 1. Battle for Wesnoth
09:07 mircea_popescu best-linux-games-battleforwesnoth
09:07 mircea_popescu holy shit kill me now.
09:08 asciilifeform hey at least it aint 'xpenguin' !111
09:08 asciilifeform ( or 'freeciv' )
09:08 asciilifeform i knew a d00d who almost flunked school from overindulging in 'freeciv', shit thee not
09:08 mircea_popescu hmmm... The Dark Mod (apparently thief remake) may be interesting
09:09 * asciilifeform will eagerly read mircea_popescu's review if he tries this or similar
09:09 asciilifeform i liked the old 'thief'
09:10 mircea_popescu aha
09:10 asciilifeform played on last serious gamez box i had. w/ ye olde 'voodoo II' card
09:10 asciilifeform was esp. great on 'hard', where you gotta leave the guards alive
09:11 mircea_popescu aha
09:11 mircea_popescu blackjack ftw
09:11 asciilifeform aha!
09:12 asciilifeform a troo gem imho.
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09:47 mircea_popescu the logic behind http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-01#1916530 if it wasn't self obvious : secure box and gaming box are exactly opposite design constraints. computer games (as a distinct and opposite category to eulora) are by definition code that'll run on your box without your having run it. if you're going to do that ANYWAY, might as well save your time.
09:47 a111 Logged on 2019-06-01 12:49 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i'd much rather dump a package deal than baby this box. i figure the grand or so it cost ain't worth an hour of my time
09:47 mircea_popescu without your having read* it.
09:48 asciilifeform aint nuffin wrong with 'gamez box' if one observes elementary kitchen-toilet separation, aha
09:48 * asciilifeform fwiw has moar 'toilets' than 'kitchens', so happens
09:48 mircea_popescu a game being, definitionally, "i don't want to KNOW what it does, i want to DISCOVER what it does"
09:49 asciilifeform pretty good def, imho
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13:35 asciilifeform meanwhile, in heathen lullies, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/SzRGZ/?raw=true
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13:40 asciilifeform ^ apropos of http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-21#1914829 thrd.
13:40 a111 Logged on 2019-05-21 22:32 mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, indeed. showed up at bdsm meet, heplfully showed us his dong. whole shebang starts with http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Arobwhiz
13:44 diana_coman lolz
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14:05 BingoBoingo lolololololol
14:08 mircea_popescu lolz
14:17 BingoBoingo Meanwhile in the US war machine: "“I seem to be getting inundated with black female officers who are being disciplined for dumb stuff,” says Coretta Gray, who spent 13 years as an officer in the Air Force Judge Advocate General’s Corps, the military’s branch for military justice and military law, and continues to consult on cases."
14:31 mircea_popescu shouldn't have hired dumb black females
14:36 BingoBoingo Anyways, at this rate US activists complaints are likely as useful as active intelligence gathering to foreign analysts.
14:41 mircea_popescu eh, us army is ~social security anyways. not like it's a military in any sense.
14:42 mircea_popescu janissary corps.
14:56 BingoBoingo I thought janissaries were somewhat effective in the field
14:59 mircea_popescu not during the last century or so
15:00 BingoBoingo Could be this last century hasn't had Janissaries. Just social security in disguise.
15:00 mircea_popescu afaik army ~= trucking. same demo.
15:00 BingoBoingo Was, was the same demo.
15:01 mircea_popescu right, now truckers all serbs and army all mammie
15:05 asciilifeform hrm, feedbot down ?
15:05 asciilifeform guess i gotta manually
15:05 asciilifeform “Finite Field Arithmetic.” Chapter 19: Peh Tuning and Demo Tapes.
15:06 asciilifeform !Q later tell phf plox to snarf ch19, ty.
15:06 lobbesbot asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
15:14 * asciilifeform bbl:teatime
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19:03 asciilifeform meanwhile, in continuation of earlier lulz : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ZwuQt/?raw=true
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19:03 a111 Logged on 2019-06-01 17:35 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in heathen lullies, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/SzRGZ/?raw=true
19:13 BingoBoingo Holy fucksticks the hamster in that one
19:13 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: fella's either barkin' mad, or feigning (why, dunno)
19:16 BingoBoingo If feigning could be a hail mary attempt to get some indemnity for earlier idiocy
19:17 asciilifeform not clear why he'd give a damn. ( seems like his 'exciting biznisproposal for you!1111' days are past... )
19:23 nicoleci hes insane and wont stop emailing me
19:24 asciilifeform lol!!
19:24 asciilifeform nicoleci: post'em
19:25 nicoleci asciilifeform, lol alright
19:26 nicoleci he was weird in person but this is something else
19:26 BingoBoingo Can't hurt to blog the guilty
19:26 BingoBoingo Is he still on an electric airplane kick?
19:28 nicoleci true, as long as it stops
19:28 nicoleci lol he didnt mention it, he was mostly being asked to leave the room though
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19:29 BingoBoingo electric airplanes were his kink when he first showed up as "ninjashogun"
19:29 nicoleci lol!
19:30 nicoleci the last email i glanced at he mentioned me being part of the international police
19:30 BingoBoingo Dude wanted ~infinite money to finance "tesla of aviation", solar powered electric airplanes. Never mind the lack of utility or range
19:31 BingoBoingo <nicoleci> the last email i glanced at he mentioned me being part of the international police << Through your affiliation with the Republic you are an international authority figure of the sort the uninitiated may call police.
19:31 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: iirc he had a diff crackpottery for each. i never got the airplane 1.
19:32 asciilifeform ( the 1 i got, was this )
19:32 nicoleci lmao, i wouldnt trust that guy to put together a model airplane
19:32 asciilifeform iirc ben_vulpes got sumthing to do with dirigibles.
19:34 BingoBoingo nicoleci: Anyways, consider how many public hangings your master has conducted. Ask him for wisdom and permission to do the hanging.
19:36 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: imho madness alone is not necessarily a barrier to productive work. nao if only fella would do sumthing constructive with that energy..
19:36 asciilifeform like, e.g. terry davis
19:37 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: The pattern of how he exercises his whatever seems to necessarily cut him out of anything.
19:38 asciilifeform i wouldn't put him to make paper airplane, sure. but let'im write an os in asm or sumsuch for 20yrs before eats a train.
19:38 asciilifeform fwiw davis actually achieved something
19:38 nicoleci BingoBoingo, thats the plan.
19:40 asciilifeform d00d is clearly stuck in wrong half of globe tho. in usa a certified schizo gets a gov pension ( as described by tlp ) and for that matter davis lived on one
19:41 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Not necessarily. The would-be schizo pensions turned into a sorta ghetto foodstamp supplement as described by tlp.
19:41 asciilifeform iirc the occasional genuine barmy still gets it
19:42 BingoBoingo For the same of keeping pretense
19:42 asciilifeform ever since reagan closed the asylums
19:42 BingoBoingo Same reason SV social media wankers will ban all sorts of folks, but they'll keep David Duke and other approved opposition
19:43 asciilifeform ( i actually knew a fella who tried to check into an asylum, on own steam. the latter still exist, but they keep patient for a week, jack'em up with 9000 meds, and let go. to get 'full program' generally you gotta kill somebody )
19:51 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: re 'solar airplane' -- 1 was built in '80s, it hangs in the national museum. not particularly useful other than for 'guiness record' tho afaik.
19:51 asciilifeform just barely carried pilot and parachute iirc.
19:52 asciilifeform gigantic plastic sheet.
19:53 asciilifeform possibly with current-day lithium battery, could be slightly smaller. but still not sure why subj is perennial crackpot interest.
19:58 * asciilifeform bbl:teatime
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22:50 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo, so listen, re your last invoice: May 2019: 1 BTC = 5319 USD << da fuck is this then!
22:50 mircea_popescu i don't specifically care about a few bitcents or a few hundy, but by the time we're talking of
22:51 mircea_popescu !Qcalc .665 * (8700-5300)
22:51 lobbesbot mircea_popescu: 2261
22:51 mircea_popescu i start caring eventually.
22:52 mircea_popescu suppose you folk re-invoice me for something more like .4 ?
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22:57 mircea_popescu not to even mention how one server of a (iirc, identical ?) pair goes for 0.0396 while the other apparently 0.0578. even using your own prices : item 1 paid yearly in april 2018 then comes to... o wait, can't use your own numbers, start in june 2018only. but anyway, april 2018 was ~5k.
22:57 mircea_popescu !Qcalc 0.4752 * 5000 / 12
22:57 lobbesbot mircea_popescu: 198
22:58 mircea_popescu !Qcalc 0.0578 * 5318
22:58 lobbesbot mircea_popescu: 307.3804
22:59 mircea_popescu ima pay the 8-11 set of invoices for good time's sake, but gimme a break, if it's monthly it gotta track SOMETHING ? they're all the same amt.
23:02 mircea_popescu !!invoice asciilifeform 0.285 as per http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-30#1916294
23:02 a111 Logged on 2019-05-30 19:20 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: got it, worx. plox to deedbot-invoice asciilifeform (i'ma have to refill the piggy before i can fill it tho).
23:02 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/5zVVx/?raw=true
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23:20 mircea_popescu in other news, check this shit out : http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/18.04/
23:20 mircea_popescu systemz ?!
23:21 mircea_popescu https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/System_z_Frames.JPG << don't they look fucken sad ? like abandoned cola machines
23:22 mircea_popescu by a window in the wing nobody visits of a nebraska mall.
23:24 mircea_popescu https://help.ubuntu.com/18.04/installation-guide/amd64/install.en.txt << this 64999 word ubuntu manual is totally worth preserving.
23:26 mircea_popescu A.1.3. Booting from network
23:26 mircea_popescu It's also possible to boot the Ubuntu installer completely from the net. The
23:26 mircea_popescu various methods to netboot depend on your architecture and netboot setup. The
23:26 mircea_popescu files in netboot/ can be used to netboot the Ubuntu installer.
23:26 mircea_popescu The easiest thing to set up is probably PXE netbooting. Untar the file netboot/
23:26 mircea_popescu pxeboot.tar.gz into /srv/tftp or wherever is appropriate for your tftp server.
23:26 mircea_popescu Set up your DHCP server to pass filename pxelinux.0 to clients, and with luck
23:26 mircea_popescu everything will just work. For detailed instructions, see Section 4.5,
23:26 mircea_popescu "Preparing Files for TFTP Net Booting".
23:27 mircea_popescu oh look at that, fixed lines on top of everything. butofcoars.
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23:43 mircea_popescu all joking aside : the best answer i could produce for the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-01#1916471 question stands as "choose between steamos and ubuntu", which in plain terms is "do you wish to make your computer a supernintendo and buy virtual cartridges for it ? or would you rather make your computer a mobile phone ?"
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23:43 a111 Logged on 2019-06-01 11:34 mircea_popescu: hmm, so since i'm building a gaming station... what's the republican notions for gfx-heavy os ?
23:45 mircea_popescu i choose the later, because... here's the problem : there's no because, properly speaking. "oh, hurr durr i want to own my games" wtf does this mean in a net context ? yes, i still have and still play homm2 / mm6 / gothic / whatever. but how the fuck are you going to meaningfully save a multiplayer game ? should they send me the server too ?
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23:45 mircea_popescu there's no fucking difference. i expect to pay ~something~ because i don't expect anybody can just photosynthesize games into existence.
23:49 mircea_popescu i would like, of course, to have a say in how that money is spent, so that i don't end up paying 99% on ever-greater-pixelcount textures and support for 4k px wide monitors and other such http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-20#1843222 joys. but... wide franchise amirite, you know going in idiocy's gonna rule all things around you.
23:49 a111 Logged on 2018-08-20 21:01 asciilifeform: lulzily i documented this in the past , in http://btcbase.org/log/2015-09-03#1260586 , http://btcbase.org/log/2016-02-15#1406177
23:50 mircea_popescu but you can't expect game makers to solve problems fucking "our democracy" altogether hasn't managed to even verbalize or conceptualize, let alone even take the first steps towards solving.
23:51 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> ima pay the 8-11 set of invoices for good time's sake, but gimme a break, if it's monthly it gotta track SOMETHING ? they're all the same amt. << The log I based the one server off of starts here http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-24#1785933 and the other starts here http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-25#1837621 I am more than happy to work something less ambiguous than those two stretches of log out.
23:51 a111 Logged on 2018-02-24 18:39 ben_vulpes: i can give you a pretty steep discount for paying the year up front, but because i'm building out the downline i want to keep the box on the balance sheet. how about a 20% markup on the machine if you pay for the whole year?
23:51 a111 Logged on 2018-07-25 02:38 mircea_popescu: mod6 go ahead an' invoice. i recall now seeing something like this b4 but no invoice either.
23:52 mircea_popescu so as a factual matter, i expect ima pay something, and i expect it'll be entirely meaningless. in which case, da fuck do i care whether it's a mobile phone and you "own the games" or a nintendo and you "own the cartridges" except... well, you know, you virtually own them.
23:53 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo, alright, so let me know.
23:57 mircea_popescu anyways, so having unsubstantiably chosen to make the box a phone, now we gotta pick a ubuntu. leaving aside the "manuals" and "with luck everything will just work" lulzies ("Achieve your AI ambitions quickly, reliably and cost-effectively. Multi-cloud operations for the full enterprise AI stack "), the choice comes between
23:57 mircea_popescu Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS (LTS stands for long-term support — which means five years, until April 2023, of free security and maintenance updates, guaranteed.) and Ubuntu 19.04 (comes with nine months, until January 2020, of security and maintenance updates.)
23:57 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: ty, I'll hit the math a bit, sleep a bit, and propose something tomorrow that is a more sustainable way to price machines going forward than doing a bunch of log archaeology evey machine.
23:57 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo, sounds good.
23:58 mircea_popescu what the fuck sense does this make is anyone's fucking guess. why the fuck would you ever review the os on a box ?! this is the fucking definition of the os in the first place -- that part of software that DOESN'T need to change. it hugs the hardware and is changed with the fucking hardware.
23:59 mircea_popescu the name for software that changes with the user's pubic hairdo fashions is USERLAND. why the fuck am i... o look at that, there's 1.9 GB to download! the OS!!!! is two gigs.
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23:59 mircea_popescu and of fucking course it's coming down a trickle pipe, so it was a 10 hour download when it started, half hour ago, then moved to 15 hours as i started ranting, and by now it's claiming to be done in 35 hours.
23:59 mircea_popescu who the fuck ever heard of such nonsense ?!
23:59 mircea_popescu o look... 42 hours.
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