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01:07 mircea_popescu this is actually a pretty good spec for a... well basically a "compiler for web" as opposed to "compiler for machine"
01:08 mircea_popescu "take code make it readable". incomprehensible to me why is not a clearly delineated function of code processors. obviously shouild be, much in the vein of yest "fix your terminal" discussions
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02:52 diana_coman http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-06#1869977 -> oh hey, that looks very useful indeed, thanks!
02:52 a111 Logged on 2018-11-06 23:57 asciilifeform: btw in case other folx ( diana_coman ? ) want to make these for ~their~ proggies, process is pretty simple :
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09:31 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: it's esp. egregious imho that gcc dun do this, it has the AST internally, could disgorge. ( gnat fixes some of this 'dun disgorge', it puts some raw structure in the .ali intermediate crapola for 'gnathtml' etc to read )
09:33 asciilifeform ( recall the ancient trb flow chart thread )
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11:33 deedbot http://qntra.net/2018/11/usms-lists-approximately-660-bitcoins-for-sale/ << Qntra - USMS Lists "Approximately" 660 Bitcoins For Sale
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12:02 mircea_popescu diana_coman http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Phfs3/?raw=true
12:03 asciilifeform in other notes from last wk's dig, turns out that ice40 contains onboard otp rom , enuff to store whole config ( somehow i read the docs '9000' times prev. and missed this ).
12:05 mircea_popescu o.O
12:07 asciilifeform http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/AVRMP/?raw=true << from horse's mouth
12:09 asciilifeform ( the promisetronics with 'difficult to read with microscope, believe!11' thing is, as i gather, for the various folx in the biz of loading $circuit into fpga and selling 'as asic' , it isn't of great interest to asciilifeform in particular )
12:12 mircea_popescu this is actually pretty cool.
12:12 asciilifeform potentially saves a coupla bux on board cost, at the very least.
12:13 asciilifeform ( e.g. classic FG , is only 'upgradeable' because xilinx doesn't offer an otp chip )
12:14 asciilifeform i have nfi if ice's thing boosts longevity, chances are their 'OTP' is implemented the same way as errybody else's, nowadays, simply a nonwindowed EPROM.
12:14 asciilifeform the 'can't read with optics' does suggest possibility of actual otp tho.
12:15 asciilifeform currently i have no approach to determining experimentally, which it is.
12:19 mircea_popescu hm.
12:20 mircea_popescu you know, even non-"windowed" eeproms will cook in high uv cookers.
12:20 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: errything cooks if you heat it enuff, lol
12:21 asciilifeform q is whether can 'restore virginity' and load in new config; and whether this is actually easier than simply soldering on a fresh one
12:21 asciilifeform (or simply switcheroo for fresh board in the mail etc)
12:22 mircea_popescu myeah.
12:22 asciilifeform most 'eprom attack' focuses on angle of 'read back the seekrit config', sumthing that doesn't really affect device where config is published already
12:23 mircea_popescu this is true.
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13:07 deedbot http://qntra.net/2018/11/dutch-seize-encrypted-messaging-service-and-make-some-arrests-while-advertising-their-hope-to-make-many-more-arrests/ << Qntra - Dutch Seize "Encrypted" Messaging Service And Make Some Arrests While Advertising Their Hope To Make Many More Arrests
13:07 mircea_popescu wtf are these "servers" doing anyway ?
13:08 mircea_popescu either it's encrypted or it's servered.
13:08 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: near as i can tell, the usual skypeism
13:08 asciilifeform hushmailism.
13:08 asciilifeform promisecryption.
13:08 mircea_popescu i can't imagine who the fuck would be using the crap
13:08 asciilifeform idjits ?
13:08 mircea_popescu and no, i don't mean "who among the silk road retards", that part is clear.
13:08 BingoBoingo People who eat endorsements
13:09 mircea_popescu keks, so basically the dutch are gonna arrest a whole lotta politicians and other momstate items, and they're advertising this so as to avoid embarassment of bitchslapfest ?
13:09 BingoBoingo The Urban enhancers and the back country meth lab crews
13:09 BingoBoingo Sounds like it
13:10 mircea_popescu come to think of it ... makes sernse.
13:11 BingoBoingo Also maybe they have a lot of undercover folk and CIs in renvenue generating positions (DEA style) they don't want off'd
13:11 mircea_popescu in other similar news, i tell you nothing's quite like nursing a hangover with teh online world. bought 16 bottles of fine bordeaux yest, partied with naked girls, to the degree of fucking the same one in the ass twice in the same evening (anal queen this chick jayssu) and so on.
13:11 mircea_popescu i'm biologically exhausted and i'm advertising this fact to avoid pantsuit politician #metoos from falling over themselves.
13:11 asciilifeform lol
13:12 mircea_popescu hm... in retrospect, this logic doesn't work any better when i apply it than when dutch police does.
13:12 asciilifeform consider sleep
13:12 mircea_popescu i already slept!
13:13 asciilifeform but didja sleep 16 bottles' worth
13:13 mircea_popescu i sleep quicker than other people, see. what they take eight-nine hours i can accomplish in like almost four.
13:13 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i didn't drink it all myself!
13:13 * asciilifeform also tends to 4-5. but that's with 0 bottles
13:13 asciilifeform lolk
13:13 BingoBoingo Ah, one of those hangovers where it takes the second or third sleeps to take it off
13:14 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo not even properly speaking hung over. not like my head hurts or anything.
13:14 mircea_popescu fine wine is up there with ro tuica re post-party effects. it's pretty much all mellow no pain.
13:14 asciilifeform tuica is a++ smooth, asciilifeform attests
13:14 asciilifeform ( ~nonexistent, interestingly, in gringolandia )
13:15 mircea_popescu meanwhile at the other mini-lulz farms : "LordMPofTMSR Not even kidding. brooccofull You do know I can't read the end of that sentence right ? LordMPofTMSR
13:15 mircea_popescu Hey, life sorts you lot into cans and can'ts. brooccofull I mean the text cute halfway. So I don't even know what that sentence is"
13:15 mircea_popescu it's ever fascinating, how DEEPLY and ~UNTOUCHABLY!!!~ implanted in twentysomething skulls this notion is that they "must have a fair opportunity" according to ~their~ definition of fairness.
13:15 asciilifeform lol didja rot13 the 2nd half or wat was it
13:16 mircea_popescu fucking state schools.
13:16 mircea_popescu who the fuck cares you couldn't read the exam questions because they were written in japanese with invisible ink ? YOU STILL FAILED! FOR HAVING FAILED! JESUS.
13:16 mircea_popescu asciilifeform they literally do not understand that their phone cutting random shit off webpages to fit it IS A BUG OF THEIR PHONE.
13:17 mircea_popescu i dunno how to convey this, it is still blowing my own mind.
13:17 asciilifeform recall the ancient usenet lul: went something like 'exam. in 8 minutes a hungry tiger will be admitted to exam room. you will find the 11 parts of the rifle under your desk. any questions'
13:17 mircea_popescu actually... let's put it this way : their terminal cuts at 80cols, right ? and they think "this code does not compile" is an ok reaction to this.
13:17 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ipnoje cuts at 30-40 cols last i knew
13:17 BingoBoingo lol
13:18 asciilifeform not even fully deterministic
13:18 mircea_popescu asciilifeform whatever it is, but the fact their "tool" cuts most of the world out is, according to them, a legitimate complaint to bring UPON THE WORLD.
13:18 asciilifeform i dunget it tho, it's got the finger screen neh
13:18 mircea_popescu I KNOW!!!
13:18 asciilifeform what, their fingers only move up/down ??
13:18 mircea_popescu i have nfi.
13:18 mircea_popescu hey, it's a tv emulator for a reason right.
13:19 mircea_popescu maybe finger only moves from ass to mouth andf back, what do i know.
13:19 asciilifeform sumhow i dun have this problem on ~my~ lolpad, landau & lifschitz scroll great in both dirs
13:19 mircea_popescu me either, nfi.
13:20 mircea_popescu but imo a fine illustration of the degree, structure, magnitude and physiology of "broken" in the "citizen of free world & open society" aka "useless fucktard headed for redditbagging".
13:20 asciilifeform i'm almost curious what it's actually like to meet these 'people'. in a room. even without 16 bottles.
13:20 asciilifeform must be troo riot.
13:20 mircea_popescu these dumb cunts show up to job interviews, you realise ? expect "respect" and shit ? wanna fucking vote, have oppinions about the world around trhem, what have you
13:21 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i generally don't meet THESE (because "they chose not to", of course).
13:21 asciilifeform makes sense
13:21 mircea_popescu amusingly homeostatic, this world we live in.
13:21 asciilifeform you'd have to get'em into a raccoon trap or sumthing
13:21 mircea_popescu (they also use phones "because they choose to", you know.)
13:22 asciilifeform gotta have the pnoje, neh. how else to view lolcat 5 times daily, like praying to mecca
13:28 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-07#1870044 << that being said, afaik there simply does not exist a non-tard product in that niche
13:28 a111 Logged on 2018-11-07 18:08 mircea_popescu: i can't imagine who the fuck would be using the crap
13:29 asciilifeform ( possibly on acct of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-31#1867907 effect , i've nfi )
13:29 a111 Logged on 2018-10-31 15:54 asciilifeform: the problem faced by even fella with a first-class head, when buying 'crypto iron', is a 9000x hypertrophied instance of the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-30#1867790 boojum -- to know what he's getting, he is stuck with much ~harder~ problem than even original maker had in making the artifact to begin with !
13:30 asciilifeform tbh i have nfi who still relies on voice pnoje for sensitive-anyffing, aside from usgtards
13:30 asciilifeform it's a screaming anachronism, imho
13:31 asciilifeform it aint even as if sending text over a wire were new! fucking 1850s tech!
13:32 asciilifeform why yakyak into microphone if ya dun have to ? so that room bug can hear ?
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15:58 mircea_popescu obviously mobility solution.
16:10 asciilifeform even the 'must talk from toilet' folx send 'text' nao, i thought
16:10 asciilifeform i suppose in the field, under fire, folx still talk into boxes
16:11 asciilifeform ( ~those~ imho pretty 'killer app' for paired-otp... )
16:14 * asciilifeform bbl,meat
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20:22 mod6 hola!
20:22 lobbesbot mod6: Sent 8 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> Updated notes file http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/xPCze/?raw=true attn asciilifeform ben_vulpes mod6
20:22 BingoBoingo Hola
20:22 mod6 Ah, thanks for the updated notes file, Sir.
20:26 BingoBoingo you are welcome
20:27 BingoBoingo In other lulz of the day, trump crushed the mixed post election headlines by calling in Jeff Session's undated resignation letter
20:28 mod6 Heheh.
20:32 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: remind me what this does ?
20:33 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: With the Senate solidly his it removes a check on Trump's ability to act without constraint.
20:34 asciilifeform was just as 'his' before iirc ?
20:35 BingoBoingo Not particularly. Jeff Sessions as a pick largely served to keep the old wing of the GOP happy.
20:36 BingoBoingo And for that he was ineffective
20:36 asciilifeform 'old wing' not there anymoar?
20:36 BingoBoingo Less relevant with McCain dead
20:37 BingoBoingo Consider McCain's lover Lindsey Graham went from being a shy boy to becoming Trump's biggest cheerleader after cancer won the war on McCain.
20:39 BingoBoingo Meanwhile Session is still burdened by the decision he made to recuse himself from any question touching Russia because he talked to a Russian once apparently without wearing a wire/
20:46 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it does things like http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-22#1864888 just more accentuated (which practically means -- cutting http://trilema.com/2016/and-they-wont-fucking-yield/#selection-67.86-67.102 from "academia" support faucet, 10x the size of "social security" support faucet).
20:46 a111 Logged on 2018-10-22 17:28 mircea_popescu: he's rehauling the "obamacare" health bs. which he was fucking voted in to do. snipping all sorts of blue nonsense in the paybook, including surgery for disphorists.
20:46 mircea_popescu you can look on trump as a smokeless slow burn erdogan, in this context, it entirely delivers.
20:48 BingoBoingo Not to mention with blue party narrowly holding the House he is in a position to rip of the blue party's balls with cannabis legalization by pushing further on it than the dems are willing to go. Sessions has proved too... southern gentleman to help Trump sell it.
20:48 asciilifeform d00d promised to cancel obummer'care' entirely, so far not pulled off
20:49 mircea_popescu for some reason arresting a third of the judges "unthinkable" in the us, even as having such a thing as "activist judges" perfectly thinkable, and totally not the same as corruption. cuz it's only corruption if it fucks over pantsuit, see, otherwise it's "activism".
20:49 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you've no fucking idea what you're talking about. it's off.
20:49 asciilifeform then why am i still being charged for it (via ++ insurance premiums) lol
20:50 asciilifeform seems like it's similar to the 1890s telephone tax -- eternal
20:50 BingoBoingo Because you haven't become a socio of the mutualista EspaƱola yet
20:51 asciilifeform lol
20:51 BingoBoingo A+++ strep throat ER visit
20:51 asciilifeform ( i'm completely willing to believe that the part that actually disgorges dough to the 'customers' is off , tho have not had any occasion to try it with own hands, i dun exactly qualify )
20:52 asciilifeform spreading--worx!11
20:53 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: roundin' up judges needs a stalin, not a trump
20:53 BingoBoingo Not if you indict them with other judge first
20:54 mircea_popescu asciilifeform turk did it. 3k in jail.
20:54 mircea_popescu bout a third of the total.
20:54 asciilifeform neato.
20:54 mircea_popescu asciilifeform to quote fresh meat, "oh, obamacare's been cancelled". they don't spiut out any more cash
20:54 mircea_popescu the point wasn't whether they take it in or not doh
20:55 asciilifeform sorta how the massive 'social security' tax is still collected 100%, even tho nobody with half a brain expects to see the pension thing
20:55 mircea_popescu well yes. it is after all a http://trilema.com/2018/democracy-sucks-the-two-thousand-four-hundred-and-change-years-old-version/
20:56 asciilifeform and noshit, they dun spit it out, it will buy moar f-35.
20:56 BingoBoingo F-35 is just an excuse not to buy rusted MiG-9
20:56 BingoBoingo Same operational capability
20:57 asciilifeform i haven't actively followed subj ; does it run win10 yet?
20:57 BingoBoingo I think it's on Windows CE
20:57 BingoBoingo 1990
20:57 BingoBoingo 's thing
20:58 asciilifeform asciilifeform's brother was stuck working with ce for a while, informs that among such wretches it is pronounced : 'wince'
20:59 BingoBoingo The day of the Lockheed versus Boeing/McDonnelDouglas trials in Saint Louis, those things dominated all 4 channels on tv all day. The Lockheed selection was only beat in local media sad by 9/11
21:01 BingoBoingo Upside is the Super Hornet lines in St Louis are outliving their expected life due to F-35
21:03 BingoBoingo And F-35 means Brasil is going to sell the Super Tucano to the US to support the aging A-10 fleet because F-35 can't help
21:04 asciilifeform lol, the ancient prop thing ?!
21:05 asciilifeform star of argentine air farce ?
21:05 BingoBoingo Not ancient. Front line star if we get a regional war down here
21:06 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: it's still ww2 tech, even if some monkeystan somewhere is still makin'it
21:07 asciilifeform prolly can be shot even with ukr-style toy chopper, dun even need rockets
21:07 asciilifeform ( heat-seeking toy chopper aint exactly high science )
21:08 mircea_popescu super toucano ? aaahahaha
21:09 asciilifeform incidentally i'm almost surprised that toy chopper aint used as area denial weapon for actual chopper just yet
21:09 mircea_popescu asciilifeform afaik it is ? actual chopper 100% grounded in all conflict since vietnam war misexperience.
21:09 asciilifeform still plentiful in iraq/afgan iirc
21:10 mircea_popescu you mean, by the poolside ?
21:10 asciilifeform i suppose -- 'green zone'
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21:48 BingoBoingo In other US election weird, a KKKalifornia to permanently be off by one hour won.
21:59 BingoBoingo And in still other post election weird, a CNN stooge touched a female whitehouse intern during an altercation and had his press credential to get into the white house revoked
22:07 deedbot http://trilema.com/2018/minigame-smg-october-2018-statement/ << Trilema - MiniGame (S.MG), October 2018 Statement
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23:10 mircea_popescu hey, it's trump's pussygrab farm, not murdoch's.
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23:38 BingoBoingo Fox is Murdoch's though it has cucked a lot since he handed it to the kids. CNN is buffalo guy Captain Planet's weird fetish project
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