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← 2018-02-21 | 2018-02-23 → ↓
00:15 deedbot http://deedbot.org/bundle-510352.txt
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00:31 ben_vulpes btcvixen: can't even afford an irc client that stays connected all the time, can you
00:32 ben_vulpes nah it's funnier this way
00:32 ben_vulpes gonna call my office again?
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01:23 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: what's the trilema where you do the math on variance in abilities between the sexes?
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02:41 deedbot http://cascadianhacker.com/why-are-the-kids-hell-bent-on-killing-each-other << CH - Why are the kids hell-bent on killing each other?
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04:08 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes http://trilema.com/2017/the-boundless-burden/ ?
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06:28 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes "ridiculously outsized"
06:29 mircea_popescu also, have you ever considered paragraphs ?
06:29 mircea_popescu or you know, commas maybe ? non run-on sentences ?
06:33 deedbot http://trilema.com/2018/cu-cartile-pe-masa-un-fleac-l-au-ciuruit/ << Trilema - Cu cartile pe masa : un fleac, l-au ciuruit.
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07:22 deedbot http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/02/22/eucrypt-chapter-11-serpent/ << Ossasepia - EuCrypt Chapter 11: Serpent
07:26 diana_coman http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-22#1785472 <- I confirm it pressed fine + it vdiffed eucrypt's chapter 11 files as expected - with the difference in order of files as your post clearly states; for anybody interested, see ^ for the diff of the 2 vpatches
07:26 a111 Logged on 2018-02-22 00:01 phf: ^ comments welcome, hanbot let me know if you have problems getting it working, feedback from mp-wp would be appreciated
07:29 mircea_popescu nice
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09:06 shinohai phf, I also have successfully pressed your vdiff, works fine so far. I excised error.c and error.h from mine in second build, per: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-22#1785478 also worked fine.
09:06 a111 Logged on 2018-02-22 01:00 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-22#1785473 << thanks for fast testing! the warning is harmless, i frankly got desensitized to it, and it slipped through the cracks. the entire error.c needs to be cut anyway, but it's a low hanging fruit
09:16 shinohai Also, note to mod6, this was tested using new experimental `V` with changes, pm me later if you have questions but all seems to behave correctly.
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10:00 asciilifeform !!deed http://www.loper-os.org/pub/pizarro_charter.asciilifeform.txt
10:00 deedbot accepted: 1
10:07 BingoBoingo !!deed http://aaronrogier.net/pizaro.txt
10:07 deedbot accepted: 1
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11:00 mod6 Mornin'
11:12 shinohai morning mod6
11:26 mod6 how goes shinohai?
11:36 shinohai ok here and you?
11:43 mod6 Doin well! Combing through this charter.
11:45 deedbot http://deedbot.org/bundle-510424.txt
11:55 mod6 !!deed http://www.mod6.net/pizarro/charter.txt.asc
11:55 deedbot accepted: 1
11:56 mod6 Here's my detached sig: http://www.mod6.net/pizarro/pizarro_charter_genesis.vpatch.mod6.sig
12:05 mod6 Ah crap. Disregard this ^ -- I screwed up and created a detached sig of the charter.txt proper, not the vpatch. hurr durr.
12:08 mod6 fwiw, V caught this mistake: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Kxkxe/?raw=true
12:10 shinohai nice work V
12:12 mod6 silver lining 'eh
12:12 mod6 this time i was like "WAT?!", but then i was like "ok, MOST of the time this thing is correct if it's complaining, I must have did something wrong... but what could it be?!"
12:13 mod6 then it dawned on me.
12:15 deedbot http://deedbot.org/bundle-510428.txt
12:18 mod6 Alright, fixed. Link is the same as before: http://www.mod6.net/pizarro/pizarro_charter_genesis.vpatch.mod6.sig
12:19 mod6 http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/vHzJf/?raw=true
12:19 mod6 My apologies.
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13:04 ben_vulpes neato mod6 tyvm
13:16 mod6 yw
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13:38 ben_vulpes https://github.com/npm/npm/issues/19883
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13:38 ben_vulpes > Critical Linux filesystem permissions are being changed by latest version
13:44 mircea_popescu mostly amusing for the "someone somewhere is actually still trying to push this "latest version" wank".
13:44 mod6 hue. he went to jared.
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14:23 ben_vulpes trinque and anyone else interested in colocating with Pizarro, here's a draft contract for review: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/MBQmX/?raw=true
14:28 ben_vulpes trinque: can i get the pizarro website's rss feed added to deedbot?
14:31 deedbot http://pizarroisp.net/?p=3 << PizzaroISP - Provisional Charter for Pizarro
14:31 deedbot http://pizarroisp.net/?p=5 << PizzaroISP - Provisional Articles of Incorporation, notes
14:32 trinque there ya go
14:33 ben_vulpes groovy, gracias
14:33 trinque http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-19#1784957 << sounds great; I'll work it in
14:33 a111 Logged on 2018-02-19 14:57 mircea_popescu: then the corresponding can also be implemented (l1 can have any blog added). vaguely curious as to results.
14:34 ben_vulpes great now we can get https://www.oglaf.com/feeds/rss/
14:34 mircea_popescu old style clubs' way of working, at any rate
14:35 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes i dunno that i could be arsed to read/whatever a contract tbh ; but do you have a gearlist or anything yet ?
14:37 ben_vulpes not yet, still wrapping up the first courier run. when you say gearlist, you mean "machines Pizarro is buying and will lease out"?
14:38 ben_vulpes i have one machine that's about to come out of the crate that i'll detail on the blog; i'd intended it for vpsen but would also be happy to lease it entire.
14:40 ben_vulpes hey mod6 if there's demand for boxes, would you be averse to selling the machines we got for the foundation to pizarro for leasing on? we can always get another couple of machines, it's not as though the two we bought for the foundation are super important to get racked right now; i'm sure other folks might be willing to rent 'em out and that'd be a great thing for pizarro's cashflow
14:41 mod6 Hmm.
14:42 mod6 Well, first off, those are The Foundation's assets.
14:42 mod6 There may be some accounting considerations.
14:44 mod6 Feels like it'd be hairy. Although, I can see the possible necessity. If I can be convinced that the accounting will be simple and straightforward for the public, I'll consider it more.
14:46 ben_vulpes i've got a pretty cut-and-dried cost basis for those two machines. it'll look like an line expense for the machines and hardware, followed by a line of income for sale-of-assets matching to the satoshi, plus possibly a token fee to the foundation for assembling them.
14:52 mod6 The goal for the Foundation is to get 2, 1U rack spaces for machines to host trb + webhost/mirror.
14:55 mod6 I think the foundation should avoid this sale.
14:56 ben_vulpes mk then
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15:18 mod6 I suppose, if we could get the following commitments: 1) Someone in L1 (L2?) to source two new machines [with equiv specs] for The Foundation, delivered to ben_vulpes March 31st. 2) A delivery plan for these two new machines to Pizaroo in .uy.
15:19 mod6 3) Pizarro to signoff on 2U reserved for The Foundation.
15:19 mod6 That may make it satisfactory.
15:25 deedbot http://qntra.net/2018/02/fickle-fiat-twenty-year-old-social-media-user-knocks-1-3-billion-usd-off-snapchat-market-cap/ << Qntra - Fickle Fiat: Twenty Year Old Social Media User Knocks 1.3 Billion USD Off Snapchat Market Cap
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17:01 mod6 jurov: I sent an email to the ML, but isn't showing up. I can confirm that the clearsigned data verifies on my end.
17:02 mod6 Lords and Ladies of TMSR~, I am happy to announce the release of my V : version 99993 K. The tarball has been posted to the website http://thebitcoin.foundation : Also, take note, the trb-howto guide linked on The Foundation website has also been updated.
17:04 shinohai dibs on first 2 verify
17:08 mod6 Thanks shinohai
17:12 shinohai o7
17:12 shinohai and phf's diff + ur vtron passed a personal vtest 2gether as well
17:13 shinohai for my genesis on btcinfo
17:13 mod6 Thanks for testing shinohai. Very useful work.
17:15 shinohai ty
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17:37 mod6 !!up Loren
17:37 deedbot Loren voiced for 30 minutes.
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17:52 Loren I just read the declaration of sovereignty. I found it very interesting, but I'm leaving because I have nothing interesting to say. I've to read the logs first.
17:53 mod6 Alright
17:53 mod6 Loren: That's the best approach, happy to see that. Stop back if you have Q's.
17:54 shinohai Esperamos que pronto vueltas!
17:55 spyked hey mod6, I just checked v99993 using ffa ch1-5 and also used it to test a press of phf's vtools and it works fine. NB: Debian systems are now pretty much broken and won't allow setting the default gpg to v1, so I had to manually replace the gpg calls in v.pl to use gpg1.
17:55 shinohai neat spyked ... had any luck w/ w3m-js ?
17:56 mod6 hey spyked, thanks for testing & the report back.
17:57 spyked yw! (also, ty for the release!)
17:57 mod6 np, yw :]
17:58 spyked hi shinohai. I compiled it and ran it, but running trilema js still doesn't work. I've also tried a few other browsers with similar results. I am trying some simpler js snippets to get an idea of what works and what not
17:58 spyked will write up a blog post when I'm done
17:58 mod6 trinque: (and others) let's circle back around and catch up cuntoo sometime in early march.
17:59 deedbot http://qntra.net/2018/02/missouri-governor-arrested-by-saint-louis-pantsuits-for-invasion-of-privacy-allegations/ << Qntra - Missouri Governor Arrested By Saint Louis Pantsuits For "Invasion of Privacy" Allegations
17:59 shinohai neat, thanks! I got weird behavior for most part when i last compiled
17:59 trinque mod6: finished item's sitting on my blog, waiting for others to test
17:59 mod6 yup, i recall. thanks for posting that. I need to go through the steps myself. maybe can do here in the next couple of weeks.
18:00 mod6 I'd love to see others step up and work through that as well.
18:00 trinque would be great. once I've gotten feedback from several folks I'll genesis.
18:01 spyked shinohai, my guess so far is that text browsers completely lack window interaction (e.g. scrolling, text highlighting), so they can't do the Trilema bits. but I want to be able to give a proper answer, which requires a bit of debugging.
18:02 spyked and there are other things missing, e.g. links2 doesn't do regex parsing.
18:02 shinohai im using uxrvt if that matters btw
18:02 spyked me too
18:02 trinque mod6: contributed kernel configs for good hardware (goes right along with the republic's recommended hardware list) are wanted
18:03 mod6 Alright, noted. I'm basically using some generics + one that has broadcomm support.
18:03 mod6 Not sure of those are altogether interesting. But if they are, can throw them somewhere for review.
18:03 shinohai https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20180221201856
18:04 trinque nah, idea is that "this is the *correct* kernel config for particular machine M"
18:04 trinque and we get a repository of those going.
18:04 trinque creates a place for debate on *what's* correct
18:05 trinque kernel for machine M1 doesn't need any extra code present for drivers for M2
18:06 mod6 Ah, ok.
18:06 mod6 Sure, let's circle back around, I'll send what i've got. others can send theirs too.
18:06 mod6 republic needs its own os.
18:07 mod6 also to go along with pizarro's hardware, etc.
18:07 trinque quite
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18:31 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes for instance ; or machines pizarro thinks are worth racking, with pros and cons. or anything really.
18:33 mircea_popescu spyked speaking of broken : "modern system" means that if you restart x, all gui apps die.
18:33 mircea_popescu because why just fucking restart x.
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18:34 mircea_popescu and also, why the fuck would text browser lack highlighting. how's it supposed to even work.
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18:35 mircea_popescu mod6 it is incorrect to start with the pie-in-sky "own os" though. it is instead correct to start with a catalogue of usable if unideal extants.
18:36 mircea_popescu !~later tell loren good idea to get your key in wot anyway ; otherwise the eventual "loren" will still be a day old item
18:36 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
18:37 mod6 mircea_popescu: ah, ok.
18:41 mod6 ohhh 'un-ideal'. gotcha. was thinking "what does unideal mean?!"
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19:04 mircea_popescu not ideal :p
19:09 mod6 :]
19:09 mod6 over-thought that WAY too much
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20:20 hanbot in today's lols, i go to make the new vdiff, i get http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/WoPts/?raw=true
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20:24 mod6 huh. did everything press ok?
20:30 shinohai II removed the error message thingy and works fine for me now, nothing: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/3MUUj/?raw=true
20:34 hanbot mod6 yeah
20:35 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes to explain what i mean : there's some reality the contract handles (R) and some actual wording of the contract W. the delta R-W can be brought under an arbitrary value epsilon, but not to zero. the delta epsilon translates in a delta time dT you have to pour into the wringing of this allignment.
20:35 mircea_popescu then later, events E that fall within W will take (putatively) less time to resolve than events E' that fall within the epsilon ; however a) the probability of E'/E is not equal to the factor R/epsilon (but worse) and b) all this requires people actually read W, which is a cost (leaving aside how it's also something some won't pay).
20:35 mircea_popescu as in any case the E' will have to be resolved by recourse to the forum, and as b) is not all that insignificant, the dT investment is a poor usage of your limited T resource.
20:35 mircea_popescu meanwhile being able to authoritatively answer "buy X, not Y" is very valuable, because unlike the above scenario, where time you expend actually dampens republican affairs (as for every dT you put in, everyone has to put in some d'T as well), this on the contrary leverages : for every dT you put in, everyone DOESN'T have to put in some d''T.
20:35 mircea_popescu besideswhich : the "soft consensus" as to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-06#1781846 "is no good" has no actual backing ; and i strongly suspect you couldn't actually explain to me what exactly is wrong with either cpu or motherboard. well...
20:35 a111 Logged on 2018-02-06 01:57 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo phf trinque diana_coman so i'm thinking of basically getting a dozen amd fx-8350s (because just 125w compared to say fx-9590s 220) racked in u2 mbs (say maybe ASRock 970M PRO3 ? i thinkl that fits in 2u neh ?) with 64 gb ram each and a coupla ssds ? any complaints/suggestions ?
20:35 mircea_popescu hanbot im willing to bet shitty gcc. what version is it ?
20:36 hanbot 4.4.3. just saying.
20:37 mircea_popescu heh
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21:33 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: very sensible, ty
21:35 * ben_vulpes bbl, sister got engaged, bubblestiem
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22:01 phf http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-23#1785630 << naturally. i'll see if i can reproduce it
22:01 a111 Logged on 2018-02-23 01:20 hanbot: in today's lols, i go to make the new vdiff, i get http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/WoPts/?raw=true
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22:23 hanbot phf anyway re your footnote four, i think it looks great, and stolen takes one l, though "stollen from elsewhere" sounds delicious
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22:23 mircea_popescu also stallin
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22:39 phf a ty
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23:39 mircea_popescu phf so what is the call on republican alphabetic order ? "all strings are made of bytes and the byte order is the alphabetic order" ?
23:41 mircea_popescu specifically in our case, dot (2e) comes after dash (2d) ?
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