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00:49 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/103AEC2DB4E666A22A935CB0705A2DFBC2D21E4ECB7C5285FD512FADFE3E5DC2 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1429...4943 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '79.174.64.152 (ssh-rsa key from 79.174.64.152 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (5626.ovz-ssd8.hc.ru. RU)
00:49 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/103AEC2DB4E666A22A935CB0705A2DFBC2D21E4ECB7C5285FD512FADFE3E5DC2 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1474...5849 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '79.174.64.152 (ssh-rsa key from 79.174.64.152 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (5626.ovz-ssd8.hc.ru. RU)
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10:06 asciilifeform in other crippleware lulz, https://archive.is/Ga295 >> 'Tesla used to offer the option to buy a Model S or Model X with a 75 kWh battery pack software-locked at a capacity of 60 kWh. The option would result in a less expensive vehicle with a shorter range, but the option to pay to remotely enable the longer range at a later stage. ... Tesla had temporarily unlocked the remaining 15 kWh of the car’s software-limited battery pack opt
10:06 asciilifeform ion to facilitate the owner’s evacuation. ... the company has put in place the emergency measure to temporarily extend the range of the vehicles of Tesla owners in the path of Hurricane Irma. ... a Tesla owner in a mandatory evacuation zone required another ~30 more miles of range to optimize his evacuation route in the traffic and they reached out to Tesla who agreed to a temporary access to the full 75 kWh of energy in the batter
10:06 asciilifeform y pack, an upgrade that has cost between $4,500 and $9,000 depending on the model and time of upgrade.'
10:07 shinohai LOL
10:07 shinohai Such shitware
10:07 asciilifeform hey if microshit can, why not everybody.
10:08 asciilifeform sell sofa with spikes, retract spikes for $1/hr
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10:08 shinohai This reminds me of the tractor thread.
10:08 asciilifeform ( and offload cost of chasing and arresting 'dmca violator' folx who offer to saw spikes off, to the great inca, naturally )
10:09 asciilifeform shinohai: possibly because it is exactly the tractor thread. all intellectualpropertytardisms are ~exactly same, under the surface.
10:11 asciilifeform as pictured in http://trilema.com/2015/a-new-software-licensing-paradigm/#selection-131.0-135.429
10:19 phf http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-11#1712044 << https://vimeo.com/1665301
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10:19 a111 Logged on 2017-09-11 14:08 asciilifeform: sell sofa with spikes, retract spikes for $1/hr
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10:43 asciilifeform phf: was in the l0gz iirc
10:43 shinohai !~bible Ecclesiastes 1:9
10:43 jhvh1 shinohai: [KJV] Ecclesiastes 1:9 :: The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
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13:28 asciilifeform !!up fromloper
13:28 deedbot fromloper voiced for 30 minutes.
13:29 asciilifeform fromloper: hello ?
13:29 fromloper good day!
13:29 asciilifeform fromloper: who might you be ?
13:29 shinohai Greets
13:29 fromloper Bitcoin hodler; bcash dumper
13:30 fromloper I could use some advice wrt the latter: do I need to spend my BTC to new addresses, before bumping my crash?
13:30 fromloper *bcrash
13:30 asciilifeform fromloper: depends with what you do the dumping
13:30 asciilifeform fromloper: if entirely on your own iron, and with proggy that you audited -- then theoretically no
13:30 fromloper I want to sent my bcrash to an exchange, and sell it for BTC
13:31 asciilifeform fromloper: it doesn't hurt to move the btc first.
13:31 fromloper interesting - this is using Armory on an offline machine
13:32 fromloper gotcha - the bcrash will still be on the original addresses, even after the BTC has been moved off?
13:32 asciilifeform iirc armory is not a full node, and relies on full nodes belonging to third parties for all of the mechanics
13:32 fromloper yea, it runs off a Core node
13:32 fromloper (I will be running trb soon, though!)
13:32 fromloper just wanna dump this awful shit ASAP
13:32 asciilifeform move the btc using a trb node
13:32 asciilifeform then move the shitcoins to a gox, and sell.
13:33 fromloper gotcha - but it's still safe to send the bcrash to gox before moving the BTC?
13:33 asciilifeform also take note of the fact that a shitcoin node can take more than a week to sync, the thing is quite buggy and slow
13:33 shinohai imo you are completely safe if you move true btc to new addy, then import keyz to bcrash
13:34 fromloper ye, I should be able to jerryrig the whole thing without installing/syncing the bcrash node
13:34 asciilifeform fromloper: again depends WITH WHAT. if you haven't audited the thing you are importing the privkey into, you are best off moving the btc first.
13:35 fromloper it's a little tricky, in that my BTC are stored on Armory paper backups
13:35 fromloper so at the moment, I need to import via that wallet software
13:35 asciilifeform 1) move the btc using trb, to new addr 2) import (now empty on btc chain) privkey into shitcoin node 3) empty the shitcoins into a gox 4) sell
13:36 fromloper Any reason why you're moving the BTC first?
13:36 asciilifeform fromloper: because chances are that you haven't read every line of the proggy that you are about to throw the privkey into
13:36 fromloper that's true!
13:36 asciilifeform if it still holds btc, theoretically boobytrapped shitcoin client can send priv to enemy
13:36 shinohai Leaving yer keyz exposed
13:36 fromloper Thanks a lot, gentlemen
13:37 fromloper after I'm done with this shitfest, will be geting into WoT and tinkering with a FUCKGOATS
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13:37 shinohai Nice!
13:38 asciilifeform fromloper: register a key, it doesn't take long
13:38 asciilifeform then i will rate you
13:38 fromloper I've got a key - is there a FAQ?
13:38 asciilifeform !!help
13:38 deedbot http://deedbot.org/help.html
13:38 fromloper thanks
13:39 ben_vulpes chimps chimping: http://archive.is/ANjIY
13:40 asciilifeform Patriot Prayer Movement << lol!!
13:40 ben_vulpes funny things about the bezos post reportolade: only outlet to report on "clashes between left and right" and not "violent leftists attack police"; also completely fail to report that the truck in question was under assault when it got in gear (hence the driver was released)
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13:42 ben_vulpes shinohai: dibs
13:42 shinohai dibs?
13:43 shinohai If you mean for a Qntra, well you are the Portland Bureau
13:43 fromloper I'd like to register under a different nick - do I need to re-enter the channel to do so?
13:43 shinohai fromloper: just change with /nick
13:43 asciilifeform fromloper: aha
13:47 rothbart do I upload the public key here? http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/
13:47 shinohai yes
13:47 rothbart and is it the KeyID, or Fingerprint?
13:48 shinohai No, you need to paste the entire public key
13:48 asciilifeform paste the pubkey
13:48 asciilifeform then !!register theresultingurl
13:49 ben_vulpes hm; seems like the rock throwing started after the truck went after some antifa
13:51 rothbart !!register http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/JFDvy/?raw=true
13:51 deedbot 410951F4EED9132643015A058B46D224AE9E116C registered as rothbart.
13:52 asciilifeform !!rate rothbart 1 new blood
13:52 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/dwVPT/?raw=true
13:52 asciilifeform !!v BA2C756B85B9BB6BEF9748E28C899D691E3D0D3D0A258ED4CD000D3F09C3290F
13:52 deedbot asciilifeform rated rothbart 1 << new blood
13:52 asciilifeform rothbart: you can self-voice now
13:53 rothbart great - do I need to decrypt a message from deedbot to verify?
13:53 asciilifeform correct
13:53 asciilifeform try it
13:58 rothbart I got this from deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/dwVPT/?raw=true is this the message to decrypt?
13:59 asciilifeform aha
13:59 asciilifeform then you privmsg deedbot !!v whatyougotfromthedecrypt
13:59 asciilifeform and it voices you.
14:11 rothbart ok, thanks - I'm gonna redo this on my linux box
14:16 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B6814796AE3212BD73F5B32E70E118605F34DD740C3B26CB8D0DCC63037A1871 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1272...8187 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '91.109.28.91 (ssh-rsa key from 91.109.28.91 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (s322.deinprovider.de. DE)
14:16 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B6814796AE3212BD73F5B32E70E118605F34DD740C3B26CB8D0DCC63037A1871 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1328...6593 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '91.109.28.91 (ssh-rsa key from 91.109.28.91 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (s322.deinprovider.de. DE)
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14:44 ben_vulpes !~later tell BingoBoingo http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ncLrm/?raw=true
14:44 jhvh1 ben_vulpes: The operation succeeded.
14:52 BingoBoingo "An alarming moment came toward the end of the day when a man driving a black Chevrolet truck adorned with American flags and a Confederate flag decal" << AHAm pickup truck flag index!
14:53 ben_vulpes oh shit i forgot about the pickup truck flag index
14:55 mircea_popescu hhhola
14:55 asciilifeform ohai mircea_popescu
14:55 BingoBoingo Good morning
14:56 ben_vulpes buenos dias
14:56 shinohai Rico suave
14:58 mircea_popescu lmao
14:59 ben_vulpes (c-c-c-combo breaker!)
14:59 mircea_popescu so in random lulz : later today im meeting this local fellow with whom im going to be making a foundation for the prosecution of the hilary foundation ; and for the unravelling of what atm seems like a scheme to steal thousandsa of children from poor costa rican mothers for sale on the us market.
14:59 mircea_popescu this promises to be one helluva combo breaker.
14:59 ben_vulpes whoa neat
14:59 trinque ah man, glorious.
15:00 mircea_popescu rumor level at the moment ; but a pregnant one
15:00 mircea_popescu har har
15:00 asciilifeform sale on the us market << lolwat..? organ market ?
15:00 trinque asciilifeform: where'd ya think the pederasts get their fucktoys?
15:00 mircea_popescu no, adoption market.
15:01 asciilifeform trinque: i thought they typically 'ate local'
15:01 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: going after the clinton foundation itself?
15:01 mircea_popescu there's been a LARGE "party donation for child adoption" DNC scam running throughout the obama term
15:01 mircea_popescu started during clinton.
15:01 mircea_popescu with the "iron curtain" thing
15:01 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i had nfi there were a darkskin kidz adoption demand >0 in usa
15:01 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes first, some local schmucks may be actually seeing the inside of jail.
15:01 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you have nfi about many things!
15:01 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: it's the racial cuckening in action
15:02 ben_vulpes "i'd rather adopt a brown kid. better for the environment."
15:02 ben_vulpes "plus my precious unfucked cunt will stay that way"
15:02 mircea_popescu he gets it!
15:04 asciilifeform the 'ironcurtain kidz' thing was massive and visible to naked eye, and seekreetly made sense to everybody : they were white
15:04 mircea_popescu yes.
15:04 mircea_popescu but then obama came in and some tards were all liek "oh, brown, same thing"
15:04 mircea_popescu turns out it ain't, and it's gonna sting.
15:05 * asciilifeform pictures the baby-seller in pelevin's 'SNUFF'
15:05 mircea_popescu nah, was run like typical pantsuit "legal proceedings" scam.
15:05 asciilifeform i.e. like children's crusade ?
15:05 mircea_popescu problem is, costa rica is roman law, not common.
15:05 asciilifeform 'drop moneys in this funnel here, we promise we'll...'
15:06 mircea_popescu asciilifeform get corrupt official to declare mother/conditions unfit / get other corrupt official to ship them over.
15:06 asciilifeform aaa
15:07 asciilifeform usa ( and certain other shitholes within the reich, e.g. sweden ) run an internally-recirculating version of this
15:07 mircea_popescu but that works in common system, "oh, aversarial proceedings, we judge the case as is". not here. here, all the officials involved get thrown in jale and THEN!!!! the ustards who took the kids, and the ones who facilitated CAN be prosecuted
15:07 asciilifeform where kid is confiscated from 'unfit' untermensch and exported to pantsuit orphanages
15:07 mircea_popescu as in the us it's now illegal to rape in a foreign jurisdiciton
15:07 mircea_popescu dja know that btw ?
15:08 asciilifeform long time nao. and 'rape' means any illicit-per-usg fornication, e.g. just about any fucking in thailand etc
15:08 mircea_popescu aaaaaha.
15:08 mircea_popescu including -- this.
15:08 mircea_popescu antischindler list in the making, if all goes well. but anyway, lettuce not get ahead of selves.
15:09 asciilifeform i dun think the ustard side gives much damn re indictments in bananistan tho
15:09 mircea_popescu o nononono.
15:09 asciilifeform can't picture they would go there
15:09 mircea_popescu indictments in connecticut circuit court
15:09 mircea_popescu for breaking the costa rican law.
15:09 mircea_popescu this is a thing, believe it or not!
15:09 asciilifeform i'd buy a ticket to watch this.
15:09 mircea_popescu ikr.
15:09 mircea_popescu well, you can all donate once it's live.
15:19 asciilifeform in other noose, asciilifeform tested various proggies purporting to extract utxoset. each and every one, shite. e.g. 'bitcoin-abe' works in geological speed, and promises to produce multi-TB sql turd
15:19 asciilifeform ( on which operations will presumably take week+ each )
15:20 mircea_popescu uxto set is large ftr.
15:20 asciilifeform a whole army of folx seem to have worked very hard indeed to make this as painful as possible
15:20 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: coupla GB, if represented as naked tx
15:20 mircea_popescu you recall discussion re practical limit on bitcoin splittage from like 2015.
15:20 mircea_popescu yes.
15:21 asciilifeform a 1995 hdd ain't 'large' in my eyes
15:21 asciilifeform but admittedly subjective.
15:21 mircea_popescu > gb item is large yes. 700mb film is normal, 2.1 gb large.
15:22 asciilifeform ftr my internal heuristic is 'if it fits in main ram of my smallest boxes, it ain't large'
15:22 asciilifeform this is a practical consideration, if it sits down in ram, it is practical to arithmetize over.
15:23 mircea_popescu i can see it
15:23 * asciilifeform historically sweated many times to solve problem which consisted of 'make this unmanageable item manageable, i.e. ram-fitting at reasonable cost'
15:26 asciilifeform for this particular experiment i am only interested in the pubkeys. which i expect will - yes - sit down in the space of a '700mb warez film'...
15:26 mircea_popescu just barely, yes
15:32 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: i had nfi there were a darkskin kidz adoption demand >0 in usa << Popular in establishment hellholes like Amherst Massachussets. It's the sort fo thing you see in Ladue, Missouri (rich liberal scum), but not really in Town and Country, Missouri (Money from business interests)
15:32 asciilifeform it dun explain why they gotta be imported from bananistan tho -- wat, not enough made locally ?
15:33 mircea_popescu you don't understand how the narcissist autist works, do you ?
15:34 mircea_popescu "oh, why must go to seminar on dating advertised on reddit, to find out where womenz are. NEVER STEPPED OUT OF HOUSE ?!?!?!!"
15:34 mircea_popescu you orc you. those don't cunt.
15:34 mircea_popescu what, talk to woman ?!
15:35 asciilifeform i always pictured those as 'learn how to GET RICH FAST' etc scam variant. 'LEARN WHERE EASY GOLD IS'
15:35 asciilifeform 'no panning required, shoots out of the ground'
15:38 mircea_popescu mmm.
15:38 mircea_popescu they. literally. with no embelishment of rhetoric whatsoever. CAN. NOT. interact with unknowns. AT ALL. zilp ; zero ; zilch ; nada.
15:39 mircea_popescu you know the joke with the national woman on a deserted island with a bunch of male compatriots ?
15:39 asciilifeform aha
15:39 mircea_popescu well, i'll recount it anyway for reocrds.
15:40 mircea_popescu so, frenchwoman : oh, it was fabulous. during the day jean-luc anchored me with his dick up my butt and held me up while pierre fucked me standing ; while at night they switched.
15:40 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> it dun explain why they gotta be imported from bananistan tho -- wat, not enough made locally ? << local are known quantity. Further away allows for greater imagining
15:41 mircea_popescu russian womahn : oh it was terrible. during the night they took turns fucking me and during the day they held soviet committee meetings to infiereze my whorishness.
15:41 mircea_popescu english rose : oh, what a bore. nobody knew anyone who could introduce us so we just walked around the jungle.
15:41 mircea_popescu THAT is what fucking amherst mass tards managed to reconstruct, it's what "average" and "well meaning" white idiot is today.
15:42 mircea_popescu can't simply rape and pillage, MUST have someone else do that and regurgitate the proceeds in their open craws.
15:42 mircea_popescu and, make no mistake, there is no choice and no other consideration in this inability. it is inability, plain and simple. much like the quadriplegic isn't moving his limbs not because "he thinks it better for the environment". fucking can not.
15:43 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo no, the opposite i say! locals are unknown ~and unknowable~. imports can be usda certified. donate 100k to dnc, get a GENUINE brown kid. you know it's genuine by the... wait for it... FALSIFYING PAPERWORK ATTENDANT!
15:44 mircea_popescu this is what makes cambridge degree REAL in their eyes : that it's BOTH a) evidently false and b) printed by mit.
15:45 mircea_popescu non-a is "threatening" aka "i don't understand what mp says!!!" ; non-b is "unreal".
15:45 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: AH, well different parts known an unknowable. Local "has a chance", this is known. He could get mega sportsball bucks, but lacks papers showing doesn't suck and may even be 3/4 white.
15:46 mircea_popescu more importantly, has recourse. not in any practical sense, but imagological, "your place sucks and i hate you".
15:46 mircea_popescu WHAT THEN!!!
15:48 BingoBoingo Well consider 2017 America on 1980's America "Perhaps most horrifying to modern sensibilities is that there is no talk of birth control, condoms, or a realization that a circle jerk would have sufficed."
15:48 mircea_popescu heh
15:48 BingoBoingo re:Stephen King orgy scene
15:49 mircea_popescu i'm not much of a fan/reader of the blind guy from mass.
15:50 BingoBoingo Eh, he's going through a turn as fad of the day in fake news discussions.
15:52 mircea_popescu i think i actually spent more time with the guy irl than reading his books, amusinglty enough
15:52 mircea_popescu by virture of having dinner once.
15:53 BingoBoingo Anyways, retailers put up Halloween two weeks ago which means last week some studio re-filmed one of his stories.
15:53 mircea_popescu oh right.
15:54 mircea_popescu do they also do what was her name for the february one, what's it called...
15:54 BingoBoingo So now there's all the problematizing about how halfway through the book all the kids fucked to cement a pact or something
15:54 mircea_popescu jesus fuck, check me out, i'm like senile over here
15:54 mircea_popescu brb
15:54 mircea_popescu so : do they also do sandra brown for valentine's day ?
15:55 * shinohai loves today's classic trilema header .... I mean DAT ASS!
15:55 mircea_popescu mmmm
15:56 mircea_popescu pretty fucking cool headers i amassed huh! nice deal.
15:56 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> so : do they also do sandra brown for valentine's day ? << Mebbe?
15:57 mircea_popescu almost like a gosplan.
16:04 BingoBoingo Relatit http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.811374
16:05 BingoBoingo !~ticker --market all
16:06 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 4191.8, vol: 11460.30700070 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 4182.0, vol: 32149.81407597 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 3944.898468, vol: 19232.47570000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 4213.1, vol: 4400.86329613 | Volume-weighted last average: 4117.89158573
16:15 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-11#1712089 cool deal
16:15 a111 Logged on 2017-09-11 17:37 fromloper: after I'm done with this shitfest, will be geting into WoT and tinkering with a FUCKGOATS
16:17 asciilifeform pretty strange, d00d regged and then... vanished
16:18 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-11#1712099 << the disadvantage of being nazi state mouthpiece is you end up the jewish "owner" of der sturmer.
16:18 a111 Logged on 2017-09-11 17:40 ben_vulpes: funny things about the bezos post reportolade: only outlet to report on "clashes between left and right" and not "violent leftists attack police"; also completely fail to report that the truck in question was under assault when it got in gear (hence the driver was released)
16:18 mircea_popescu asciilifeform what is to vanish here ?
16:18 asciilifeform was speaking of the fromloper/rothbart one
16:19 mircea_popescu yes. just happen yest
16:22 mircea_popescu and in other hatefacts, http://68.media.tumblr.com/720a92f3d847982bae62049e2db8a30e/tumblr_mh343fLjtp1r21xm5o1_1280.jpg
16:31 mircea_popescu * pete_dushenski is now known as Guest66666 >> heh
16:34 BingoBoingo http://www.returnofkings.com/129671/4-television-productions-that-show-how-british-media-is-blackwashing-history << Anyone in Airstrip 1 to confirm?
16:35 mircea_popescu what's residence needed for ? ~nothing made in english since 2001 has any basis in sanity, it's 100% the pantsuit lulz.
16:36 mircea_popescu imaginary women, imaginary relations of power, imagined nonsense.
16:38 BingoBoingo Residence is needed for the "OMG still resident" factor
16:38 mircea_popescu lol
16:42 mircea_popescu take stephen fry as a fine example. cancerous fag has been doing anti-reality nonsense since the 80s
16:42 mircea_popescu recall that bit where he and laurie "don't understand" how privatization works ?
16:43 mircea_popescu and i mean basic shit, "oh, if you have shares in the crown thaty'll be quite enough". really bitch, i get shit for free at walmart for owning walmart stock, that's what it is ?!
16:45 BingoBoingo lol
16:45 mircea_popescu "oh, he's funny". no, he's not funny. "but he's so scholarly" right, and if i went to nigeria i'd be so godly.
16:46 mircea_popescu "but he's a close friend of the royals!!!" right.
16:47 BingoBoingo Some people's cocaine is direly deficient in acephate
16:47 mircea_popescu some people are just direly deficient.
16:48 BingoBoingo Google's answer to "Is Acephate Toxic" >> "It is considered non-phytotoxic on many crop plants. Acephate and its primary metabolite, methamidophos, are toxic to Heliothis spp. that are considered resistant to other organophosphate insecticides. Acephate emits toxic fumes of various oxides of phosphorus, nitrogen, and sulfur when heated to decomposition."
16:48 BingoBoingo OMG Google doesn't care about (black) people!
16:49 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: what's the connection between acephate and black people?
16:51 BingoBoingo Back people work in southern states and love using "Surrender" (TM)(R) granules labeled for outdoor fire and mound control... indoors and generally everywhere.
16:51 BingoBoingo And they'll bring it to their relatives in northern states who will also use that shit indoors
16:53 BingoBoingo And they'll insist "This shit works great on roaches"
16:54 BingoBoingo And then you write off entire classes of residential structure as habitable when enough people have asked to establish a trend...
16:54 * mircea_popescu prefers geckos
16:55 BingoBoingo But your habitation is clean enough for geckos
16:56 mircea_popescu yest a frog, a pretty tiny tree guy, climed all the way up to the top level terrace thing, 10 meters. was sitting on a (wooden) chair going "sup ?"
16:58 BingoBoingo Sweet, one of those neon colored guys?
16:59 mircea_popescu very shiny green
17:00 mircea_popescu there's also a deep red one, but i've not yet seen it.
17:00 BingoBoingo Awesome
17:01 deedbot http://qntra.net/2017/09/another-trezor-hardware-wallet-default-flaw-trezord-exe-phones-home/ << Qntra - Another Trezor "Hardware Wallet" Default Flaw: Trezord.exe Phones Home
17:01 mircea_popescu lol
17:01 mircea_popescu "flaw" eh
17:04 asciilifeform for the LUVV OF gAwD, MONTREZOR!111
17:05 mircea_popescu i like how they add "d" to things know.
17:05 mircea_popescu IT IS MORE SCIENTIFICd!
17:05 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: can haz sores of the noose plz ?
17:05 asciilifeform and can somebody say why the thing even needed driver ?
17:06 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Some post linking to their github
17:06 mircea_popescu lol
17:06 mircea_popescu what do you mean why it needed a driver! IT IS MORE SERIOUS BUSINESS WITH DRIVER!
17:06 asciilifeform lolyes
17:06 asciilifeform recall the catv folx or who was it.
17:06 mircea_popescu dis alf, he dun understand anythings.
17:06 BingoBoingo https://archive.is/GVwO2
17:07 asciilifeform static const auto https_cert_uri = "https://wallet.trezor.io/data/bridge/cert/localback.crt";
17:07 asciilifeform static const auto https_privkey_uri = "https://wallet.trezor.io/data/bridge/cert/localback.key";
17:08 asciilifeform cert_data = http_client::request_uri_to_string(https_cert_uri);
17:08 asciilifeform privkey_data = http_client::request_uri_to_string(https_privkey_uri);
17:08 asciilifeform pretty great.
17:08 BingoBoingo Updated, this is in all their versions
17:08 mircea_popescu im sure it was an accident that didn't happen and doesn't mean anything.
17:08 mircea_popescu CERTAINLY not anything like "hey, they told you this in 2014"
17:09 BingoBoingo But 2014 is like the 1960's of Bitcoin. Ancient history!!!
17:10 asciilifeform i can't seem to find a time when the thing wasn't a screaming joke, e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2014-08-29#815106 , http://btcbase.org/log/2015-09-22#1282100 , http://btcbase.org/log/2015-12-27#1354322
17:10 a111 Logged on 2014-08-29 19:26 asciilifeform: from the published circuit, it seems to be asking for it.
17:10 a111 Logged on 2015-09-22 03:01 asciilifeform: speaking of, last i checked, 'trezor' was still reflashable from the usb jack.
17:10 a111 Logged on 2015-12-27 16:07 jurov: https://jochen-hoenicke.de/trezor-power-analysis/ as predicted by alf
17:11 mircea_popescu aha
17:11 asciilifeform but, interestingly, a seemingly indestructible lulzcow
17:11 asciilifeform ( from lack of alternatives ? from gavin endorsements ? wai? )
17:11 mircea_popescu yes. because they just want the facts see
17:11 mircea_popescu THEY WILL MAKE OWN DECISIONS
17:12 mircea_popescu asciilifeform from lack of information ; or a thing to process it with.
17:12 mircea_popescu why did the gringo tards sit with me at casino table, not notice THEY are losing ?
17:12 asciilifeform i would ask 'what's to keep some unrelated d00d from making walletrons that simply talk over rs232..' but then remembered that it is probably same thing that keeps'em from making rng where ditto despite how OMFG WE PUBLISHED DESIGN
17:13 mircea_popescu they cnat raed
17:13 asciilifeform cnat read just fine when it's gavin talkin'
17:13 mircea_popescu besides, st. clinton promised them they won't have to.
17:13 mircea_popescu asciilifeform nope. just, when gavin's talking it's impossible to tyell if they read or underlined.
17:13 mircea_popescu whole definition of being a gavin is above. "speak so nobody can tell if the "audience" listens or not"\
17:14 mircea_popescu life experience based degrees too!
17:18 asciilifeform https://github.com/trezor/trezor-mcu/blob/master/firmware/signing.c << lollamatic, support for segshitness etc
17:19 asciilifeform hey dontcha lust to buy gadget for producing signatures so you can THEN THROW THEM AWAY lol
17:20 asciilifeform oh hey and built-in support for ethertardium, 1000+loc's worth
17:20 mircea_popescu sure.
17:20 mircea_popescu locs are free!!1
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17:44 BingoBoingo lols just wanna be free http://www.thedebrief.co.uk/news/politics/the-israeli-prime-minister-s-son-s-relationship-has-got-political-because-he-s-got-a-non-jewish-girlfriend-2014026042
17:45 BingoBoingo "University relationships sometimes never last longer than university, but that hasn’t stopped the hook-up between the son of Israeli PM Yair Netanyahu, 23, and his fellow student Norwegian Sandra Leikanger, 25, stirring up all sorts of political dissent. Because she’s not Jewish. "
17:57 BingoBoingo "Also note that the service employees union is providing logistical support." >> http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=8881 http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=8885
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18:25 asciilifeform !#s elaineou.com
18:25 a111 1 result for "elaineou.com", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=elaineou.com
18:25 asciilifeform ^ lulzy and not wholly uninteresting www
18:32 asciilifeform e.g. https://elaineou.com/2017/08/17/hate-music
18:38 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: And solar shade hokum https://elaineou.com/2017/08/27/how-to-monopolize-solar-energy-and-take-over-the-world/
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20:17 mod6 evenin'
20:17 asciilifeform ohai mod6
20:20 mod6 how goes?
20:21 asciilifeform experimenting...
20:21 mod6 nice
20:21 * mod6 reads l0g
20:24 mod6 <+BingoBoingo> But 2014 is like the 1960's of Bitcoin. Ancient history!!! << seems like yesterday
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20:47 PeterL http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-10#1711925 << how do you type * without hitting the shift key?
20:47 a111 Logged on 2017-09-10 20:12 asciilifeform: we're talking about simple ops, i should not have to touch fucking shift key
20:47 asciilifeform PeterL: numpad
20:48 PeterL somehow I didn't even think of that, I never use the numpad *!
20:48 asciilifeform lol
20:48 PeterL plus, it is waaaay over there, isn't it easier to just hit shift-8 ?
20:49 shinohai I mean, it's just a few inches to the right - not a trip to Saturn.
20:49 PeterL now I am wondering, what else does my keyboard have that I never use because I don't even notice it?
20:50 PeterL hmm, here's another key I never use, what does "Caps Lock" even do?
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20:50 asciilifeform now that one i dun have.
20:50 asciilifeform nor want.
20:53 asciilifeform shinohai: the comp is a machine that MUST ADAPT TO THE MAN, rather than the man to the comp. which is why it is infuriating idiocy , when an op that is done 9000 time daily ( say parens ) lives behind a metakey, while microshitian idiocies like 'printscreen' get own key
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20:53 asciilifeform i do not tolerate this in my house, and cannot picture why anybody else does.
21:01 PeterL I suppose people who are not programmers do not use ( or ) much, but does anybody actually use [ and ] any more often?
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21:03 PeterL the other option is to think more, type less, and then it does not matter so much where any particular key is
21:04 asciilifeform PeterL: ready to have yer keyboard confiscated and replaced with telegraph key ?
21:04 asciilifeform PeterL: if not, why not ?
21:04 asciilifeform why not carry the 'think more, type less' thing to logical conclusion.
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21:04 PeterL or, to take that to extremes, modern man is just a consumer of social media, does not need to type anything, just poke touchscreen and moo
21:04 asciilifeform believe or not , i have one of even those , too
21:05 asciilifeform i even have comps with no input mechanism at all!111
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22:38 trinque http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-12#1712365 << reflects poorly on the world in which we live that there isn't a bespoke keyboard-maker.
22:38 a111 Logged on 2017-09-12 00:53 asciilifeform: shinohai: the comp is a machine that MUST ADAPT TO THE MAN, rather than the man to the comp. which is why it is infuriating idiocy , when an op that is done 9000 time daily ( say parens ) lives behind a metakey, while microshitian idiocies like 'printscreen' get own key
22:43 kanzure i would also like to register a complaint about lack of n-key rollover and also another complaint about keyboard keypress registration latency, thanks
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22:48 BingoBoingo mod6: Seriously
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23:12 asciilifeform i solved this by doing the model-f thing.
23:12 asciilifeform but -- noshit -- this dun scale.
23:22 * trinque has keyboard remapped to hell, but would be nice to design the thing around the designated key functions.
23:23 asciilifeform trinque: nothing beats modelf + the custom controller imho
23:24 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661475 << thread
23:24 a111 Logged on 2017-05-25 03:21 mod6: which ones does alf like?
23:25 asciilifeform ( don't be confused by the external resemblance to 'terminal model-m'. mechanics entirely different. no rivets, for one thing. )
23:26 asciilifeform phunk phakt : 'f' cost ~2k 1980 usd.
23:26 trinque hm yeah, I've only ever clacked on an M.
23:26 asciilifeform i muchly prefer the 'f' -- no membrane dome anywhere inside of it, unlike 'm'
23:27 asciilifeform and has a couple of kg of iron.
23:30 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-12#1540430 << earlier thread re subj
23:30 a111 Logged on 2016-09-12 17:47 asciilifeform: phf: the hard part is to actually get a hold of a 'model f'.
23:32 asciilifeform trinque et al : i often wonder how many people would be prepared to pay what 'bespoke kbd' costs.
23:33 trinque I'd pay a grand, why not. paid more than that for shittier items.
23:33 asciilifeform ( not much reason to expect that it would cost substantially less than, e.g., bespoke bicycle costs. )
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23:33 asciilifeform grand will buy you shite.
23:33 trinque but kanzure's calitards can splice wings into my ass on a UBI budget
23:33 trinque and in a garage!
23:34 trinque anyhow I'd accept the bespokenness of key labels as a start
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23:35 asciilifeform even this is trickier than first appears
23:35 asciilifeform if you, as i do, insist on inset-casting
23:35 asciilifeform ( the item where the lettering NEVER wears out, because it is simply the inner layer of the key is black and protrudes just-so )
23:36 asciilifeform ever see a post-1990s kbd that was in use for coupla yrs, the lettering wore off. this dun happen on proper keys.
23:36 kanzure i never promised as much
23:37 kanzure asciilifeform: give me a system that can do better high-fidelity human data output than a 300 wpm keyboard please.
23:37 asciilifeform kanzure: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=861 << here ya go
23:37 asciilifeform prolly 500+ with skilled operator.
23:38 kanzure the twiddler thing?
23:38 asciilifeform well a hypothetical 10-finger variant thereof, could
23:38 asciilifeform ( w/ up-down-neutral pos. for switches. )
23:38 kanzure also i would like a full key se without extensive modkeys
23:38 kanzure *key set
23:39 asciilifeform that'd look like e.g. my model-f.
23:40 asciilifeform and 'slow' because fingers must after all move laterally
23:40 asciilifeform ( i dun need 300 or even 200 'wpm' for anything, so it dunbotherme)
23:40 kanzure lateral movement isn't so bad, sean wrona does that all the time
23:40 asciilifeform whossat
23:40 kanzure fastest gun in the west
23:41 kanzure his techique is sort of bizarre and probably caused by brain damage, where he types same words using different fingering each time, and also lots of hovering
23:42 asciilifeform that sounds quite like what i do, lol
23:42 asciilifeform ( minus the hover, wtf , why wouldja )
23:43 kanzure for the 'lulz' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GDusA21cEA
23:44 asciilifeform if you actually NEED 100s-of-wpm for something, as opposed to pissing contests in arena, dwelling on anything other than a bespoke (for YOUR hands) chorder, is lunacy.
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23:44 kanzure really the only purpose of high wpm that i have figured out is winning irc flame wars
23:47 asciilifeform way i see it, cleverly made kbd is really for minimizing flow disruption
23:47 asciilifeform rather than naked 'how many buttons can i press per second'
23:48 asciilifeform WITHOUT EXCEPTION all currently made input periphs are shite. especially, egregiously, the pedals -- i've thrown away 3 or 4 nao
23:48 asciilifeform not a single one permitted RESTING the foot
23:49 asciilifeform infuriating rubbish, made by wreckers.
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