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00:03 mircea_popescu meanwhile in blackening of viands, http://68.media.tumblr.com/9d8d721ad4453425b61baff6d247f02d/tumblr_o6usqnA9B11rq93veo1_500.gif
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01:43 deedbot http://qntra.net/2017/07/trump-makes-small-cut-to-military-healthcare-spending-and-makes-jeff-sessions-great-again/ << Qntra - Trump Makes Small Cut To Military Healthcare Spending And Makes Jeff Sessions Great Again
01:43 BingoBoingo ^ Dos historias, un titulo
01:46 mircea_popescu jeff bezos and the amazington host.
01:46 BingoBoingo lol
01:47 BingoBoingo The "amazington host" sounds liek a grand way to refer to a gathering of redditards.
01:47 mircea_popescu just about
01:47 mircea_popescu a great gay way.
01:48 BingoBoingo A host of amazingtons blocks you path. [fuck][marry][kill with fire]
01:48 mircea_popescu lol
01:51 BingoBoingo A lesser lol for the anal's beads http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/07/26/senate-democrats-delay-witness-from-testifying-against-fusion-gps/
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02:33 ben_vulpes !!rate mimisbrunnr 1 a bot of mine
02:33 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/GTYPE/?raw=true
02:34 ben_vulpes !!v BB907D8F4402D2CA377D7BD22CEE31DE112100F6C197A433AA9EEE7F7D88669F
02:34 deedbot ben_vulpes rated mimisbrunnr 1 << a bot of mine
02:39 ben_vulpes http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2017-6-12#127336 << done
02:39 mimisbrunnr Logged on 2017-06-12 18:05 phf: ben_vulpes: could you possibly add timestamp (hh:mm:ss, say) to your div.line's. maybe as data-ts="..." or perhaps as a div.nick title?
02:39 ben_vulpes http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2017-7-26#171249 << done
02:39 mimisbrunnr Logged on 2017-07-26 17:25 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: imho the scheme currently in use by phf is The Right Thing
02:40 ben_vulpes even preserved what little backwards compatibility needed preserving with some feeelthy htmlz
02:40 ben_vulpes and ty mircea_popescu for kicking my ass to do it
02:41 ben_vulpes obvs works in #eulora, #trilema-mod6 etc
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08:37 asciilifeform in other noose, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-26#1607654 passed.
08:37 a111 Logged on 2017-01-26 19:26 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: from same circus, u.s. senate is proposing to ban mr.t from revering obummer's 'ru sanctions and They Stole Election' decrees
08:45 asciilifeform ( the veto-overriding ritual is still upcoming iirc )
08:52 deedbot http://qntra.net/2017/07/bitcoin-network-mining-difficulty-continues-climb-up-6-92-percent-to-new-all-time-high/ << Qntra - Bitcoin Network Mining Difficulty Continues Climb, Up ~6.92 Percent To New All Time High
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09:38 asciilifeform in other lulz, https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GCC-RDRAND-CVE
09:38 asciilifeform 'RDRAND/RDSEED instructions for pulling random number generators on modern CPUs may have not been as random as desired when using GCC. '
09:39 asciilifeform 'The issue was fixed in GCC back in March but only disclosed today on the oss-sec list as CVE-2017-11671. '
09:39 asciilifeform 'responsible disclosure' shitsackery.
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11:10 mod6 howdy!
11:12 mircea_popescu heya
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11:31 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-27#1690261 << took very little kicking.
11:31 a111 Logged on 2017-07-27 06:40 ben_vulpes: and ty mircea_popescu for kicking my ass to do it
11:31 mircea_popescu hardly worth teh mention.
11:32 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-27#1690265 << lame duck senate. it'll last for six months. trump is 4evah.
11:32 a111 Logged on 2017-07-27 12:45 asciilifeform: ( the veto-overriding ritual is still upcoming iirc )
11:33 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-27#1690270 << heh.
11:33 a111 Logged on 2017-07-27 13:39 asciilifeform: 'responsible disclosure' shitsackery.
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13:05 mircea_popescu "Orbem iam totum victor Romanus habebat, qua mare, qua terrae, qua sidus currit utrumque; nec satiatus erat. Gravidis freta pulsa carinis iam peragebantur; si quis sinus abditus ultra, si qua foret tellus, quae fuluum mitteret aurum, hostis erat, fatisque in tristia bella paratis quaerebantur opes."
13:08 asciilifeform where didja find an unbitrotted ocr of that
13:08 mircea_popescu mah own files.
13:08 asciilifeform chix handkeyed didntthey.
13:08 asciilifeform neat.
13:08 mircea_popescu perhaps :D
13:09 asciilifeform 1337w4r3z.
13:09 mircea_popescu hm.
13:10 mircea_popescu !~google "Orbem iam totum victor"
13:10 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: '' Orbem iam totum victor Romanus habebat, qua' collaborative text ...: <http://nodictionaries.com/text-word-note/3569387-orbem-iam-totum-uictor-romanus-habebat-qua>; Satyricon Satyricon Index (Latin) (Latin) - Sacred Texts: <http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/petro/satyrlat/index.htm>
13:11 mircea_popescu http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/petronius1.html << there, apparently it exists online as well. saves me the trouble to publish it.
13:11 * mircea_popescu hasn't in much depth checked, but the quoted part at least is correct.
13:15 asciilifeform oh neat
13:15 mircea_popescu "hey, pudet effari perituraque prodere fata, persarum ritu male pubescentibus annis".
13:18 mircea_popescu (for the innocent : fata denotes fate in that text, and male evil. but at the time c. petronius wrote he was doubltess fully aware of the vulgar latin tendency towards what yielded romanian fata (girl), even if very unlikely unaware of the eventual meaning of "male". yet, we can read a vernacular relation there between male/female doubling agency/fate on the distal plane. THIS is what literary genius is all about, ulterior me
13:18 mircea_popescu aning.)
13:21 mircea_popescu (and yes, latin philosophy of the time was 60% by mass "women, unbridled, will doom the republic". hence ~porcius~ cato for instance.)
13:33 asciilifeform meanwhile in sunny monkeystan, http://archive.is/AxHUh : 'Russian National And Bitcoin Exchange Charged In 21-Count Indictment For Operating Alleged International Money Laundering Scheme And Allegedly Laundering Funds From Hack Of Mt. Gox'
13:35 asciilifeform 'Homeland Security Investigations is strongly committed to tracking down criminals who seek to strike at the foundations of global financial security through complex money laundering schemes' didjaknow.
13:36 mircea_popescu hurr.
13:36 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-27#1690280
13:36 a111 Logged on 2017-07-27 17:05 mircea_popescu: "Orbem iam totum victor Romanus habebat, qua mare, qua terrae, qua sidus currit utrumque; nec satiatus erat. Gravidis freta pulsa carinis iam peragebantur; si quis sinus abditus ultra, si qua foret tellus, quae fuluum mitteret aurum, hostis erat, fatisque in tristia bella paratis quaerebantur opes."
13:38 asciilifeform gotta wonder, are the ru folx actually dumb enough to regularly visit natostans ( greece in above, spain earlier ) or dragged there 1st and parallelconstructed.
13:38 mircea_popescu pretty sure this guy lived in the eastern mediterranean.
13:38 asciilifeform as good as usa.
13:38 mircea_popescu nah, nice climate, pleasant women.
13:39 asciilifeform for gassing, i mean.
13:40 mircea_popescu eh, unless you're willing to shoot usg agents on shight / impale the captured etc, ~everywhere is same.
13:40 asciilifeform not quite everywhere. afaik 0 successful usg kidnappings in ru to date.
13:42 mircea_popescu you specifically care which idiot is involved ?
13:42 asciilifeform in this case yes
13:42 mircea_popescu why ?
13:42 asciilifeform d00d would be a free man if he sat in moscow.
13:42 mircea_popescu when exactly did russian citizens in russia become free men ?
13:43 asciilifeform 1991 or so
13:43 mircea_popescu i musta missed this point. esp given the novel discovery that http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-27#1690227
13:43 a111 Logged on 2017-07-27 02:58 asciilifeform: and ditto of ru mob et al.
13:43 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i thought the ru mob had 0 cultural value.
13:43 asciilifeform 0 from my telescope
13:43 asciilifeform but specifically to subj d00d , plenty value.
13:43 mircea_popescu your telescope runs on virtual basic it'd seem.
13:44 asciilifeform wassat
13:44 mircea_popescu did you not say the 1990s never happened ?
13:44 asciilifeform waiwat
13:44 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-27#1690227 <<
13:44 a111 Logged on 2017-07-27 02:58 asciilifeform: and ditto of ru mob et al.
13:45 asciilifeform what's the cultural value of a fire ?
13:45 asciilifeform i can see the argument 'some things needed burnin'
13:45 mircea_popescu nevermind the fire. the cultural value of "d00d would be a free man if he sat in moscow." is ~1.
13:45 mircea_popescu if that's not the entirety of culture, then it's not missing much.
13:46 asciilifeform supposing it is so. ( it is far from my africa, and can't say for sure. perhaps phf will comment. )
13:46 mircea_popescu well, you'll have to pick one which you believe, and stick to it.
13:46 asciilifeform i see where mircea_popescu was going tho.
13:47 mircea_popescu but be that as it may, for the brief interlude in question. there's no substantial difference today.
13:47 asciilifeform i do know that ~0 'hacking' prosecutions in ru.
13:47 asciilifeform and 0 extraditions to anywhere, for whatever reason.
13:47 mircea_popescu lol really ?
13:47 asciilifeform nao maybe they feed'em into woodchippers locally, and quietly, i have nfi.
13:48 asciilifeform but 0 usg-style preet process.
13:48 mircea_popescu lol.
13:48 mircea_popescu i thought you read russian ?
13:48 asciilifeform have counterexample?
13:49 asciilifeform i dun read every single local rag of every nowhere district in all of ru. so conceivable that i missed one.
13:49 mircea_popescu so what is teh isc ?
13:50 mircea_popescu who was sergei mikhailov ?
13:51 mircea_popescu moreover, what did the preet do before being canned, quite a la yezhov ?
13:51 asciilifeform what about mihailov
13:51 mircea_popescu exact preet. spent a while "prosecuting" "cybercrime", then got prosecuted in turn.
13:52 asciilifeform thinking of the kaspersky betrayal case ?
13:52 asciilifeform that ain't a 'hacking trial
13:52 mircea_popescu not what was said.
13:53 asciilifeform expand then plox
13:53 mircea_popescu your claim was "0 usg-style preet process", to which i showed 100% preet process : 1. that indeed there was a preet ; and that indeed he was preet'ed.
13:53 asciilifeform preet prosecuted free men for doing free man things.
13:53 mircea_popescu it's your job to now convince me the "centre for information securityt" of the fsb prosecuted no "hacker" at any point during its decade long tenure.
13:54 mircea_popescu rigth.
13:57 asciilifeform i dun have the desired exhaustive proof of absence.
13:58 mircea_popescu not a matter of proof of absence ; the structure is there quite plainly. if you can be bothered to dig you'll find the rest.
13:58 mircea_popescu the notion that somehow russia is a free country dun stand, or else you know, we'd just move there.
13:58 asciilifeform all i got is the observation that no ransomware writer who targets anglotards seems to feel in the slightest bit of danger in ru.
13:58 mircea_popescu good for them...
13:58 asciilifeform 'free country' may be contradiction in terms.
13:58 mircea_popescu by this measure, neither do they "seem to feel" in danger in north korea.
13:59 asciilifeform i'm a little surprised that northkr has not attempted cultivating reputation as tmsr-friendly
13:59 mircea_popescu come to think about it, whether someone is publicly shitting hsi pants every change he gets (aka, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-27#1690153 ) versus the other categorical alternative, "doesn't seem to feel in the slightest bit in danger" would rather predict us citizenship than anything else.
13:59 a111 Logged on 2017-07-27 02:19 mircea_popescu: the fatal weakness, those folks just wanted to get along.
14:00 mircea_popescu ameritards pants are always freshly shat. everyone else's - not.
14:00 mircea_popescu bout as far as that goes.
14:00 asciilifeform dunno, afaik opposite, every d00d arrested in usa for anything, from pickpocket to seller of nsa key, seems very surprised
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14:21 * trinque snarfed an archive of www.thelatinlibrary.com a while back
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15:22 mircea_popescu good idea.
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15:55 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-27#1690293 << apparently the best english version of this is a r allinson's "I blush to speak, I tremble to recite our Persian manners and our curse of Fate!".
15:55 a111 Logged on 2017-07-27 17:15 mircea_popescu: "hey, pudet effari perituraque prodere fata, persarum ritu male pubescentibus annis".
15:55 mircea_popescu it's not very good.
15:56 mircea_popescu I blush to tell, I tremble to recite our Persian childhood and its fated plight! or something at the very least. the cogent points is that one tempts the fates at his peril with a recount of how changing the republic for a satrapy contained in itself its future blessings such as they were.
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16:27 phf "Like you, I also wanted to study the TeX code. After all, it was written by an eminent computer scientist, and, for a large piece of software, it is remarkably free of bugs. It looked like something significant could be learned. But, I gave up after a while. Mostly because the code is full of clever tricks to pack data into memory locations to save space. This made sense 30 years ago, but not so much today, and it makes the code very difficult to read
16:27 phf (for me, anyway). There is a system called JavaTex, by Tim Murphy, which might be a bit easier to read, maybe. But I ran out of time. – bubba"
16:30 mircea_popescu wait, knuth literate-programmed all his way into pointer magic etc ?
16:37 phf i suspect it's more about the choice of data structures. for one there are no allocs (very much in the spirit of ascii's ada explorations), so he probably has a lot of mempools, some byte compression and possibly bit twiddling. i've not read the second book yet, because i still haven't compiled the damn thing outside of the reservation
16:38 phf "This TEX implementation conforms to the rules of the Pascal User Manual published by Jensen and Wirth in 1975, except where system-dependent code is necessary to make a useful system program, and except in another respect where such conformity would unnecessarily obscure the meaning and clutter up the code"
16:44 asciilifeform phf: ftr i'm going for the exact opposite of this liquishit.
16:45 phf what liquishit?
16:45 asciilifeform bit twiddles to save 1 byte here and there etc
16:45 phf i don't know if that's the case, that's just my guess. but you are doing fixed size allocations though, and we had threads about it
16:45 phf who knows what "bubba" actually means
16:47 asciilifeform all sane programs do fixed allocation.
16:53 phf fwiw the dynamic around tex is fascinating. here's very much a literate artifact of high discipline. every piece is a carefully documented literate program, custom tooling that enforces the conventions, "I have also spent thousands of hours trying to ensure that the systems produce essentially identical results on all computers. I strongly believe that an unchanging system has great value, even though it is axiomatic that any complex system can be impr
16:53 phf oved." etc. etc. last tex release (apart from bug fixes) is version 3 in 1990. you'd think(c)(r), but the reality is that layers and layers of cancer are grown on top of it, and when there's a discussion it is in terms of original values, but when it comes to details its "use this lua pdf unicode thing which comes as part of a 5GB package"
16:55 phf i can envision a future where some TMSR SYSTEM package weights at 100GB but at its core is "p.vpatch" that is used exclusively through "vada2rust" translation system
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17:10 mircea_popescu phf i wasn't aware he ever did bit twiddles. my sparse reading of bits and pieces never showed me any.
17:13 mircea_popescu it is, for the record, NOT axiomatic, or even true, that any large system can be improved.
17:14 mircea_popescu all systems designed through inductive means can always be improved -- through the removal of the inductive parts and their replacement with deductive equivalents. that's all.
17:20 asciilifeform phf: i can also imagine future where cannibals wear my stuffed skin, what of it
17:21 mircea_popescu moreover, i can envisage a future where the clean html of the republic is viewed through "browser2iphonekek" as javascript-whatever.
17:21 mircea_popescu that future is now, and just as soon as i fuck one i'll care.
17:24 * mircea_popescu avvers that had he run into remarkable crapola re knuth he'd have thrown a louder than usual and as public as usual hissy fit.
17:27 deedbot http://trilema.com/2017/again-with-the-money-laundering-bullshit/ << Trilema - Again with the "money laundering" bullshit.
17:34 asciilifeform trilema down?!
17:34 asciilifeform nm worx
17:34 shinohai worx for me
17:34 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: what's an avvers
17:35 mircea_popescu an aver with a sticky v.
17:35 asciilifeform lolk
17:36 mircea_popescu meanwhile art teh beach, http://68.media.tumblr.com/e91d24998750471eb2d25bb34ea4c619/tumblr_oamax69J9W1u4jyyvo1_1280.jpg
17:36 mircea_popescu !!up palatine
17:36 deedbot palatine voiced for 30 minutes.
17:37 palatine hello
17:37 mircea_popescu hi.
17:38 palatine feels strange talking to you after all reading i did, sorta speaking with a character out of a book
17:38 mircea_popescu ha!
17:39 mircea_popescu what've you been reading then ?
17:39 palatine trilema and a bit of the logs
17:40 mircea_popescu cool.
17:40 palatine beginning to figure it out, almost ;)
17:41 mircea_popescu alrighty then
17:41 palatine not being a tech person i have some trouble with the WoT thing
17:41 mircea_popescu what person are you ?
17:41 palatine i knew a hard question was on my way
17:42 mircea_popescu lol but i mean, "i'm not a tech person because i am an ? person" ?
17:43 palatine i'm a lawyer by profession and trying to escape the barn in general
17:43 mircea_popescu ah. i suppose to keep to terminology, "i'm a scholar person".
17:44 palatine agreed then
17:44 * mircea_popescu is not much of a tech person either.
17:45 palatine yes, surprised me bit when i found out
17:46 mircea_popescu anyway, as a lawyer you absoluitely wish to bake pgp into every aspect of your practice. don't have any customer email you plaintext.
17:46 mircea_popescu that way you get actual, as opposed to theoretical, attorney-client priviledge.
17:47 palatine yes, that would be fine even if a somewhat hard on the practical level
17:47 palatine people being totally non tech people either
17:48 mircea_popescu well, people are also totally non-legal minds either, kinda why they come to you.
17:49 mircea_popescu at least in my experience, 60% or so of independent practice lawyer's work is educating people in his office. sort-of private schooling.
17:49 mircea_popescu or do you work in a corp law dept ?
17:49 palatine nope
17:50 palatine your remark is spot on, by the way
17:50 mircea_popescu :p
17:51 palatine fact is, the place i live the law is a joke
17:51 palatine not sure you can call it law practice anymore
17:52 mircea_popescu do you practice italian law ?
17:52 palatine yes
17:53 mircea_popescu hasn't been too serious for a long while now huh.
17:53 palatine yes
17:53 palatine crumbling at an faster pace lately anyhow
17:53 mircea_popescu well if it makes you feel any better, the us is rapidly catching up.
17:54 palatine haha
17:54 palatine i'm very happy to have found out this place
17:54 mircea_popescu cheers.
17:56 palatine i got a question for you, if you don't mind answering, did you plan trilema as a literary opus by the very start or sorta did it grew out on its own way?
17:56 mircea_popescu yes.
17:57 palatine which one?
17:57 mircea_popescu :)
17:57 palatine lol
17:57 mircea_popescu both. the distinction only exists in a certain (and false) view of teh world. otherwise, to plan it as a literary opus correctly IS for it to grow on its own wya.
17:58 palatine true
17:58 mircea_popescu generally "to plan" is used as a view towards results. this utterly is not what planning is. planning is all about the construction of processes.
17:59 mircea_popescu but hey, kids go to school, where http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-06#1679600 reigns rampant.
17:59 a111 Logged on 2017-07-06 15:09 mircea_popescu: which is how every god damned kid that was sexually abused through the process of socialist schooling (which is all of them -- education is education, and socialist school is definitionally sexual abuse of all children involved) ends up with the idea that newton sat down TO discover whatever he did (unimportant, really) and THEREFORE he did.
17:59 mircea_popescu so the confusion is born.
18:00 palatine gotta take my time with this one
18:01 mircea_popescu can you read the romanian parts of trilema btw ?
18:01 palatine nope, i nicknamed it the "romanian wall"
18:03 mircea_popescu italian is somewhat mutually inteligible with romanian. but i suppose it also depends what exactly.
18:05 palatine yes, but the meaning is subtle and missing too many words make it a mess
18:06 mircea_popescu myeah.
18:07 mircea_popescu !!up palatine
18:07 deedbot palatine voiced for 30 minutes.
18:08 palatine how was that you picked the Serenissima?
18:10 mircea_popescu well, commercial republic. say, http://btcbase.org/log/2013-08-19#241422
18:10 a111 Logged on 2013-08-19 13:24 mircea_popescu: it was the same in 1600s low countries, and in 1100s serene republic.
18:10 mircea_popescu what'd you have picked ?
18:11 palatine nothing else
18:12 palatine it's amazing because when i walk the streets here the San Marco lion is everywhere
18:12 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2014-01-14#444413 << also. teh oldest references, as it'd appear.
18:12 a111 Logged on 2014-01-14 10:51 mircea_popescu: and also my country, teh most serene republic of bitcoin.
18:12 mircea_popescu palatine iirc some greek church also uses it.
18:14 palatine have to check this out
18:14 mircea_popescu see, cause originally, when the venetics were little more than an orcish tribe, they wanted to matter in th world. so they went and stole st marcus remains from alexandria.
18:16 palatine i read a bit on the origins of the republic, i found striking similarities with our current situation
18:16 mircea_popescu kinda how it goes.
18:18 palatine little non-easily reacheable and defendable islands are like bitcoin
18:30 mircea_popescu !!up enzio
18:30 deedbot enzio voiced for 30 minutes.
18:31 palatine first time panic, totally understand ;)
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19:21 mircea_popescu and in other shy to show face beauties, http://68.media.tumblr.com/c31bb64a67ec4619ef27018e4e7490bd/tumblr_obcnzxyJkW1voo3cao1_1280.jpg
19:23 shinohai "In case of emergency. wrap arms firmly around whore and use as a flotation device"
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20:05 mircea_popescu also in case of submergency.
20:16 phf http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-27#1690392 << fear mongering for rhetoric purposes, but my point is the same one as was made by the situationists: you can build negation into your tooling all you want, but if need be the maggots will find a way.
20:16 a111 Logged on 2017-07-27 21:20 asciilifeform: phf: i can also imagine future where cannibals wear my stuffed skin, what of it
20:19 phf fwiw, i'm just tryin' ta get a way to publish an occasional document; i was under an impression that TeX is a no brainer, it's supposedly inherently tmsr friendly. apparently not, and not only that, the whole stack, since before i was even doing computing was already llvm-like. layers upon layers of "autotools"
20:23 phf (this started because i couldn't find a printed version of julius evola's "ride the tiger" in russian translation. i found a pirated version, that i figured i can just print through lulu. i still haven't produced a pdf version that doesn't rely on the whole 6gb tex distribution)
20:24 mircea_popescu in other lulz, "kitchen appliance" really should be a standard body type.
20:25 mircea_popescu athletic, astenic, fridge.
20:25 mircea_popescu phf i have long searched for said way. trilema is what i came up with.
20:26 mircea_popescu in fairness though, it perhaps contains more "moderate your expectations" than actual solutions, by mass.
20:27 mircea_popescu also re the "maggots will find a way", the tmsr point is subtler than that : a) yes they will but b) let it be the intake manifold and c) make sure the machine corrupts them into humanity.
20:27 mircea_popescu this is teh current ideal.
20:33 mod6 <+mircea_popescu> also in case of submergency. << haha
20:35 mircea_popescu in other shockers, " My name is Stephanie. I graduated college with an associates degree in baking and pastry arts."
20:35 mircea_popescu tru story.
20:35 mod6 :D
20:35 phf still more useful than sociology
20:35 mircea_popescu at least in the sense that more obviously wrong.
20:36 mircea_popescu phf you realise, one could perhaps turn pastry making into a degree. BUT i guarantee that's not what they did.
20:36 mircea_popescu bitch prolly knows "what the good brands are".
20:38 phf i thought that's when they learn how to make this sort of stuff by hand https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/bc/99/3a/bc993a14c5bfc84a3e7fdb40ec6ae37f--pastry-art-pastry-chef.jpg
20:40 mircea_popescu i'm sorry ?
20:41 mircea_popescu souffle is a 4 week course if you're nuts. wtf are those, cupcakes ? out of pre-mixed batter ?
20:46 phf i just can't share in this sentiment. girl can probably make herself useful by making pretty looking edibles for cupcake stores and weddings. i think that's more useful than sociology
20:49 mircea_popescu you're considering things in isolation. sociology major has significantly different expense expectations.
20:49 phf i agree that packaging (and the attempted status implication) is distasteful. but electric engineering etc. associate wouldn't be much different. a handful of specialist classes of varied quality mixed with utterly useless "general education" stuff
20:50 mircea_popescu phf and a clear if intentionally obfuscated sentiment of own inferiority.
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21:29 phf НОВАЯ ИДЕЯ ОГОРАШИВАЕТ ЧЕЛОВЕКА, К НЕЙ НЕ ПОДГОТОВЛЕННОГО. I ПИСАТЕЛЬ: Я писатель! ЧИТАТЕЛЬ: А по-моему, ты говно! (Писатель стоит несколько минут, потрясенный этой новой идеей и падает замертво. Его выносят.) etc.
21:29 asciilifeform lol!!
21:30 mircea_popescu lol
21:40 mircea_popescu "I'm a grad student who will be going to grad school to become an occupational therapist."
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22:00 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B90977FA5E6CCC083B075BF6BF4F13868101AD6B5C244CFAB7A206E13E2A8C03 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1782...9073 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '219.99.160.143 (ssh-rsa key from 219.99.160.143 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (db.doshishanet.fsi.ne.jp. JP)
22:00 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B90977FA5E6CCC083B075BF6BF4F13868101AD6B5C244CFAB7A206E13E2A8C03 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1410...8397 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '219.99.160.143 (ssh-rsa key from 219.99.160.143 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (db.doshishanet.fsi.ne.jp. JP)
22:10 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/A1BCB2254F83DB9C90B449C3A06BB487653BE799DCFB81BA606613D05BC1A81E << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1743...3083 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '141.217.207.151 (ssh-rsa key from 141.217.207.151 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown US MI)
22:10 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/A1BCB2254F83DB9C90B449C3A06BB487653BE799DCFB81BA606613D05BC1A81E << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1626...6459 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '141.217.207.151 (ssh-rsa key from 141.217.207.151 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown US MI)
22:11 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-28#1690484 << when in 80s volga germans were expelled from their spiffy and self-sufficient freeholds in kazahstan, the shitmonkey locals promptly removed the roofs (kindling!) set up yurts (houses are for sheep!) and shat everywhere (toilet is for sheep watering bowl)
22:11 a111 Logged on 2017-07-28 00:16 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-27#1690392 << fear mongering for rhetoric purposes, but my point is the same one as was made by the situationists: you can build negation into your tooling all you want, but if need be the maggots will find a way.
22:12 asciilifeform observe that this was not the fault of how the germans built their roofs.
22:13 asciilifeform i hear that in 'post-colonial' africa, same scenario played, again and again
22:13 asciilifeform concert piano as kindling etc
22:14 asciilifeform this applies to niggers of all colours, piano they had nothing to do with the making of, is quite the same as a tree in the forest
22:15 asciilifeform ( but also carries inside a reminder of their betters, and thereby actively 'musts die' )
22:17 asciilifeform back to the tools: the 'sword that fights by itself' is a ~mythological~ item.
22:18 asciilifeform it dun exist. tool gotta be wielded. so to picture 'tools of tmsr' in the hands of maggots, presupposes defeat.
22:18 asciilifeform ftr, unlike albert speer and his 'ruins theory' - i dun participated care what happens 'after defeat'
22:19 asciilifeform grrrrr
22:19 asciilifeform *particularly
22:19 * asciilifeform throws craplet against the wall
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23:08 BingoBoingo Did that fix it?
23:12 BingoBoingo RIPBSD https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvs&m=150109829003860
23:12 BingoBoingo Log message:
23:12 BingoBoingo switch the default compiler on amd64 and i386 to clang,
23:12 BingoBoingo but keep gcc4 in the build for these as well
23:12 BingoBoingo ok deraadt@
23:16 BingoBoingo http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=8434 << Lafond does the God King Vlad
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