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00:00 BingoBoingo "and you could eat caviar and manatee steak" << Now manatee demands plane ticket
00:01 asciilifeform today plane ticket, tomorrow -- plane
00:02 asciilifeform (if the mega-fat folx can successfully wheedle 'right to' 2nd seat for phreee, why not RIGHT TO charter plane???)
00:04 pete_dushenski https://www.rt.com/news/372700-foreign-intelligence-istanbul-attack/
00:05 asciilifeform '“Abu Muhammed Horasani” managed to escape from Reina by covering himself in his victims’ blood and used a taxi to escape the murder scene.' lolwat
00:05 asciilifeform new one.
00:06 asciilifeform gotta remember this algo
00:06 asciilifeform escape from bank heist by covering self in hundies, prolly also worx
00:06 pete_dushenski it's a variant of thief crying thief
00:07 pete_dushenski http://www.bluesodapromo.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/halloween-post-its.jpg << except with hundos
00:16 trinque http://www.livescience.com/57373-52-countries-ban-spanking-france.html << meanwhile, france bans beating one's kids (impotently, apparently..), citing research showing "they weren't that good at it anyway"
~ 3 hours 3 minutes ~
03:20 davout http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-05#1596721 <<< 1.0 would do perfectly for that matter. "2.0" has a stench of "i just heard about Bitcoin, I'm here to fix it"
03:20 a111 Logged on 2017-01-05 01:05 adlai: calling it Bitcoin 2.0 is excellent blanding, prb are permastuck in 0.landia
~ 34 minutes ~
03:55 davout https://blog.medium.com/renewing-mediums-focus-98f374a960be#.zf4axvgbj <<< pretty lulzy, aka "we have nfi how we should make money"
~ 1 hours 44 minutes ~
05:39 mircea_popescu davout the notion that those fucktards thought at any point they're employing 150 people...
05:39 mircea_popescu "helped make medium what it is today" ? what the everloving fuck IS it, an upstart hoping to one day be a #trilema log ? whoa!
05:42 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-05#1596974 << not new at all, posed as victim
05:42 a111 Logged on 2017-01-05 05:05 asciilifeform: new one.
~ 19 minutes ~
06:01 mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/wrSiG/?raw=true
06:06 * asciilifeform ponders the puzzler
06:11 mircea_popescu incidentally ben_vulpes did you end up with a masamune thingee ?
~ 25 minutes ~
06:36 mircea_popescu !!key gabriel_laddel_p
06:36 deedbot http://wot.deedbot.org/5787B7B432C4D799A52220EC2991FD97FBEB6F3B.asc
~ 18 minutes ~
06:55 Framedragger medium: "However, in building out this model, we realized we didn’t yet have the right solution to the big question of driving payment for quality content." ahahahahaa another startup realizes that this exotic nuance of balance sheet called REVENUE cannot be simply california-sun-wished-away
06:58 gabriel_laddel_p mircea_popescu: I had previously sent you all the required information via PM. Perhaps my connection was (silently) dropped prior.
06:58 gabriel_laddel_p In any case, the answer is no.
07:13 mircea_popescu aok
07:22 Framedragger http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-04#1596442 << haha! :) haven't heard of it (if you mean the tea brand). gift looks nice - hopefully there's actual proper .lt honey in it (if so - ftw / gonna be a treat). dunno what the odds for that are tho.
07:22 a111 Logged on 2017-01-04 23:16 pete_dushenski: straight from lithuania! (is Framedragger familiar with this brand?)
07:23 Framedragger that handwritten card looks rather lovely i must say
07:23 mircea_popescu nice people huh.
07:23 Framedragger i say!
07:27 shinohai http://archive.is/lJ3pY <<< DNS + Ether, what could possibly go wrong?
07:30 mircea_popescu "James Mickens is a researcher in the Distributed Systems group at Microsoft’s Redmond lab. His current research focuses on web applications, with an emphasis on the design of JavaScript frameworks that allow developers to diagnose and fix bugs in widely deployed web applications." << i hope someone seduced his spouse
07:31 mircea_popescu preferably, someone called antron / big lurch. thrice. and i hope he's stuck raising the offspring, like that bill de blasio idiot.
07:31 mircea_popescu at least they won't be helping anyone with javascript.
07:31 shinohai var=cucked
~ 30 minutes ~
08:01 davout such freefall, very volatility, much seatbelts, wow
08:02 davout !~ticker --market all --currency eur
08:02 jhvh1 davout: Bitstamp BTCEUR last: 950.080998, vol: 29021.94177383 | BTC-E BTCEUR last: 961.34851, vol: 422.36114 | BTCChina BTCEUR last: 954.960618, vol: 4927124.52710000 | Kraken BTCEUR last: 959.999, vol: 26589.3191255 | Volume-weighted last average: 954.959624473
08:12 mircea_popescu in other news, http://68.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8n77aXYMB1rcyjlao1_1280.jpg
08:13 shinohai IT'S A TRAP
08:14 mircea_popescu troubled asses rape plan!
~ 25 minutes ~
08:39 mircea_popescu eh ffs.
~ 2 hours 21 minutes ~
11:01 deedbot http://trilema.com/2017/minigame-smg-december-2016-statement/ << Trilema - MiniGame (S.MG), December 2016 Statement
~ 22 minutes ~
11:23 deedbot http://www.contravex.com/2017/01/05/a-quick-trick-to-save-medium-articles-before-they-go-bye-bye/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - A quick trick to save Medium articles before they go bye-bye.
~ 2 hours 24 minutes ~
13:47 mod6 Hola
13:48 mircea_popescu hai
13:48 * mircea_popescu is writing up the fabulous hash function just in case.
13:48 asciilifeform oooh neato
13:50 * asciilifeform behind schedule on earlier $items, sadly did not have time to further massage subj
13:52 mod6 yeah, i did get a chance to skim the PHP, but not much else yet.
13:53 mod6 cool stuff
~ 29 minutes ~
14:22 mircea_popescu done.
14:22 mircea_popescu maybe that is better suited.
14:33 ben_vulpes glyf.org dns servers not working for anyone else?
14:34 mircea_popescu confirmed.
14:34 mircea_popescu yo phf
14:35 mircea_popescu mmm now i get 66.35.48.19
14:35 ben_vulpes aok there we go
14:36 ben_vulpes http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-05#1596792 << spiffy as hell phf i very much wanted this the other night
14:36 a111 Logged on 2017-01-05 02:09 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-05#1596739 << while this does give me a diff envy, i'm cooking something that asciilifeform might find useful http://glyf.org/tmp/press-tree.png
14:36 mircea_popescu and in other modern art, http://68.media.tumblr.com/c3a9f3a638093cc83be9d4c07b23e3fe/tumblr_o2bscuWbtH1rg2eiao1_1280.jpg
14:39 deedbot http://trilema.com/2017/towards-a-better-hash-function/ << Trilema - Towards a better hash function
14:43 ben_vulpes omg davout great minds! http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-05#1596982 http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-04#1596429
14:43 a111 Logged on 2017-01-05 08:55 davout: https://blog.medium.com/renewing-mediums-focus-98f374a960be#.zf4axvgbj <<< pretty lulzy, aka "we have nfi how we should make money"
14:43 a111 Logged on 2017-01-04 22:46 ben_vulpes: https://blog.medium.com/renewing-mediums-focus-98f374a960be#.8gsm40qwc << "we have no fucking idea how to make money from livejournal in 2017, but that's not going to stop us from lighting our investor's capital on fire and warming ourselves in front of it while lamenting the capitalist system!"
14:43 mircea_popescu lol
14:44 * mircea_popescu noticed, didn't say nuttin. was lulzy.
14:47 ben_vulpes gabriel_laddel_p: ack
14:47 ben_vulpes hey could i beg a translation of the forum?
14:48 ben_vulpes oh nm it's spam
14:48 ben_vulpes has bullet points and all!
14:50 ben_vulpes http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-05#1596989 << let's just say i am going to have to jump through some hoops
14:50 a111 Logged on 2017-01-05 11:11 mircea_popescu: incidentally ben_vulpes did you end up with a masamune thingee ?
14:51 ben_vulpes i'm going to it's just going to take an eternity.
14:51 ben_vulpes d'you want me to get you one as well?
14:51 ben_vulpes !up fromloper
14:51 trinque !!up fromloper
14:51 deedbot fromloper voiced for 30 minutes.
14:52 trinque cowards, all.
14:52 trinque unrelatedly, masamune vid was impressive, ftr
14:53 ben_vulpes aye
14:53 ben_vulpes damn spiffy, that's why i wanted to host it!
14:54 trinque I reiterate that I would love to have a guy I can holler at and throw money at to improve CLIM
15:07 asciilifeform in other lulz: https://en.wikichip.org/w/images/2/27/kaby_lake_%28dual_core%29_%28annotated%29.png << nsa core fully ~1/4..~1/2 of the die!?
15:07 asciilifeform ^ latest wintel konsoomer part
~ 25 minutes ~
15:33 davout http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-05#1597033 <<< lol fail
15:33 a111 Logged on 2017-01-05 19:43 ben_vulpes: omg davout great minds! http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-05#1596982 http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-04#1596429
15:38 ben_vulpes and in other faceless women: http://68.media.tumblr.com/03e68a7063687a68e1321b2129a02ac1/tumblr_ojb3iqgp6y1rxaxgfo1_1280.jpg
15:39 asciilifeform anybody know of a lightweight and non-automake-infested log library for c proggy ?
15:40 asciilifeform 30 yrs of open sores does not appear to have produced one
15:40 asciilifeform but perhaps i overlooked something.
15:41 ben_vulpes just write to stdout
15:41 ben_vulpes :D
15:42 asciilifeform well, stderr
15:43 asciilifeform but i'd like timestamps, rollover, and nonbufferization
15:43 asciilifeform like most folx
15:43 asciilifeform i have stderr for free, already knew where to find it, thx ben_vulpes
15:44 ben_vulpes dying of grins over here
15:44 ben_vulpes in other terrorisms: https://github.com/DanMcInerney/wifijammer
15:45 trinque asciilifeform: has to be a lib?
15:45 asciilifeform trinque: ideally just a few 100 (max) lines of .h
15:45 asciilifeform i.e. readable
15:46 asciilifeform i am specifically uninterested in 'zlog' or any other automake rubbish.
15:46 * trinque tends to have one proggie fart log via stdout into svlogd
15:46 trinque rather than having it manage own logs
15:47 trinque dunno if this is applicable at all to what you're building
15:47 asciilifeform this works when your proggy never dies suddenly without chance to flush buffers
15:47 asciilifeform nor wants to reserve stdout for something else
15:48 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: http://www.telegraphkeys.com/images/straightkeys/spark/sparkgap.jpg << better wifi jammer
15:48 asciilifeform (why jam 1 user at a time, wtf)
15:49 diana_coman asciilifeform, iirc there was a clog thing that was just one header - quite basic though and I have no idea in what state it is currently (i.e. whether of any use really)
15:50 asciilifeform diana_coman: got link ?
15:51 diana_coman asciilifeform, https://raw.githubusercontent.com/mmueller/clog/master/clog.h
15:51 asciilifeform ty diana_coman
~ 17 minutes ~
16:08 phf http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-05#1597026 << namecheap is not very good
16:08 a111 Logged on 2017-01-05 19:34 mircea_popescu: yo phf
16:09 phf but i've no idea what to switch to, as per recent threads
16:13 phf it's safe to save 66.35.48.19 for glyf.org, it's been the same ip for the past 10 years or so. in fact, assuming this is not some weird overflow issue, today is a birthday on glyf.org machine. 2048 days uptime
16:14 ben_vulpes mazel tov, phf
~ 23 minutes ~
16:38 ben_vulpes and in other "eat recycled food": https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/articles/27751961/
16:41 asciilifeform lel paywall
16:44 asciilifeform but from abstract, it seems like a stretch, charitably. (blinds with uv? asciilifeform sunburns in about 5minutes, and so owns a uv dosimeter, it reads 0 at point blank range from led bulbs of whatever make -- i have at least 5 popular models here.)
16:45 asciilifeform with ~blue~ ? brighter blue from lamp than from the sun? really, srs?
16:45 phf i think canonical url for article is http://linkinghub.elsevier.com.secure.sci-hub.cc/retrieve/pii/S0306-4522(16)30524-3
16:50 asciilifeform aaaa guess what ain't in there
16:50 asciilifeform (spectra!)
16:51 asciilifeform such lulz, such apparently good wurk, and 0 spectra.
16:52 asciilifeform (if i missed a 'and we had ~0-uvpermeability glass in front of the rat cage...' plz correct me...)
16:52 asciilifeform cheapo 'white' led leaks , yes, uv.
16:53 asciilifeform ~0 of which gets through typical lamp dome, just as nobody gets sunburn from sitting near a window indoors.
16:53 ben_vulpes interdasting
16:53 ben_vulpes yeah, why no spectra?
16:54 asciilifeform i grunted through whole thing in search of it
16:54 asciilifeform then went 'holy fuq'
16:54 asciilifeform nominal peak in nm from datashit is not substitute for spectra, wtf, omfg.
~ 21 minutes ~
17:16 asciilifeform in other olds, https://archive.is/vDN6w << more re variant diff algos.
17:23 pete_dushenski Framedragger: odds are pretty good! :D http://www.contravex.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/baltic-servers-xmas-gift-3.jpg
17:36 pete_dushenski in other real deals, the og podesta phish http://archive.is/jB78F
17:36 pete_dushenski from: "> IP Address: 134.249.139.239 > Location: Ukraine"
17:38 trinque bit.ly ahaha
17:45 pete_dushenski dunno what his google pwd was, but apparently 'Runner4567' unlocked podesta's apple acct
17:50 ben_vulpes and they aspire to run the world
17:54 pete_dushenski podesta et al. might even have what it ~took~ to run the world of their formative years, but meanwhile time marched on and they've now wandered far, far from home. similarly, god help the lot of us in 30-40 years. don't forget just how old these team clitler fogies are either.
17:56 asciilifeform oh and, if there was mention of uv cataract signs on the rats' corneas, i missed it...
18:00 ben_vulpes looking a bit more like "oop, flawed experimental design"
18:01 ben_vulpes although why not "hey check it out, indoor led manufacturers routinely ship uv-emitters"
18:01 ben_vulpes i suppose because if a thing cannot be claimed about the research lab's pet topics, it is not worth publishing?
18:01 ben_vulpes what is going on in their heads...
~ 38 minutes ~
18:39 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: possibly because if you were to measure how much uv got pumped into the rat eyes, the 'blue poison' thing evaporates
18:40 ben_vulpes kinda what i was saying
18:40 asciilifeform (leaving entirely aside the validity of a burrowing animal as a model for blindness via overexposure to ~whatever~ wavelength of light)
18:41 ben_vulpes heh right
18:41 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: it ain't a 'flawed' experimental design, any more than a land mine is a 'flawed' dinner plate
18:42 asciilifeform it is chumpatronic.
18:44 ben_vulpes in that it is designed to show that "blue light == bad"?
18:45 asciilifeform at the very least, to sow fud
18:45 asciilifeform and 'regulatory' fodder.
18:45 ben_vulpes ah yeah, that
18:45 ben_vulpes ye olde edifice of scientistic governance
18:46 asciilifeform led lamp makers are scamming folx left and right in entirely nonsubtle ways (i just unscrewed 5th dead '20 year life!111' bulb this year, none were older than ~1y)
18:46 ben_vulpes dissect any of 'em?
18:47 asciilifeform yes
18:47 ben_vulpes and is the failure in the leds or electronix?
18:47 asciilifeform mix of dead rectifiers and blown caps
18:47 ben_vulpes ahaha
18:47 asciilifeform it's ~never the led
18:47 ben_vulpes "hey, the LEDs last forever kid!"
18:47 asciilifeform aha.
18:48 asciilifeform one reason is that the chumps often submit'em, for free, for 'recycle', and the lamp house gets to sell ~same motherfucking lamp N times
18:48 asciilifeform replacing 5cent part.
18:49 asciilifeform (they are not, before anyone asks, +ev to fix at home, you will not get the tin can with the heat sink closed to anything like the shape you want it to be to fit in any fixture)
18:49 asciilifeform or to even adequately conduct heat again
18:49 asciilifeform the folx makin' these things --- thought things through, yes.
18:50 asciilifeform the other thing about these lamps is that (at least i find) they are addictive -- after stuffing 2 100w-imitators into a fixture that cannot physically hold 2 100w edison bulbs without catching fire, it is painful to go back
18:50 asciilifeform you get used to room being bright enough to read in.
18:51 asciilifeform (a '100w' imitator eats 10-15w)
18:52 asciilifeform heat dissipation, elementarily, ~= wattage.
18:52 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-05#1597045 << nah was just evaluating an idea ; meanwhile the guy http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-05#1596994 so ima just let it be.
18:52 a111 Logged on 2017-01-05 19:51 ben_vulpes: d'you want me to get you one as well?
18:52 a111 Logged on 2017-01-05 11:58 gabriel_laddel_p: In any case, the answer is no.
18:53 asciilifeform lel, d00d decided not to sell any moar after all ?
18:53 mircea_popescu i have nfi. whatevs.
18:53 * asciilifeform confesses to complete lack of emotion re subj
18:55 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-05#1597080 << doh.
18:55 a111 Logged on 2017-01-05 20:48 asciilifeform: (why jam 1 user at a time, wtf)
18:55 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> the other thing about these lamps is that (at least i find) they are addictive -- after stuffing 2 100w-imitators into a fixture that cannot physically hold 2 100w edison bulbs without catching fire, it is painful to go back << Just get new porcelain fixture. 150 to 300 Watt edisons are still available
18:55 mircea_popescu WHY DO YOU THINK
18:56 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: not practical to put a 200w-dissipating fixture on a ceiling already so low mircea_popescu would scratch the top of his dome if he came to my house
18:56 mircea_popescu eugh.
18:57 mircea_popescu anyway, i fgind the converse to be true, proper lights quite addictive.
18:57 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2017/towards-a-better-hash-function/#comment-120966 << comment got snippetysnipped!
18:57 asciilifeform it oughta read 'i.e. nextpos <= pos ? pos-- : maxpos.'
18:57 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: 200watt fixture is typically a flat disk of porcelain with socket. What mega dissipation?
18:58 mircea_popescu asciilifeform dangling < must be introduced as &lt;
18:58 asciilifeform ugh
18:58 mircea_popescu BECAUSE HTML HAS MAGIC WORD
18:59 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i took a 100w-max one apart not long ago, found that even it includes fiberglass fireproofing thing next to ceiling
18:59 asciilifeform american houses are the architectural mcdonalds, cramped, uncomfortable cardboard crematoria waiting to ignite
18:59 mircea_popescu all mine are ceramic. also my ceilings went from the standard 2.3 to the rarer 2.85 sometime long ago. turns out - also quite addictive.
18:59 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: aha, civilized ceiling
19:00 asciilifeform exists in ~0 dwellings in usa, at least in ~nothing built since 1970s (speaking here strictly of residential bldgs)
19:00 mircea_popescu 2 types of bum : he who lives in hovel where can see the stars through the ceiling, and he who lives in hovel where can touch the ceiling.
19:00 asciilifeform in usa, ~everyone (save for 'old money' rockefeller types) are at best #2bum
19:01 asciilifeform though oddly enough, the hovels where i lived as a student were old enough to have proper ceilings !
19:01 mircea_popescu whole buildings of type 3 still exist here, unmolested since the 60s
19:01 asciilifeform yeah complete with old ru-made locks
19:01 mircea_popescu back when middle class was quite pointedly != bum yet.
19:01 asciilifeform (tru story!11)
19:01 mircea_popescu yup.
19:02 ben_vulpes i grew up in one of those houses
19:02 ben_vulpes do not live in one now
19:02 BingoBoingo 660 watt max at 250 VAC for GE "Medium Base Keyless White Porcelain Lampholder" which is basic $6 flat ceramic disk with bulb socket
19:02 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-05#1597088 << (happy (many) return)
19:02 a111 Logged on 2017-01-05 21:13 phf: it's safe to save 66.35.48.19 for glyf.org, it's been the same ip for the past 10 years or so. in fact, assuming this is not some weird overflow issue, today is a birthday on glyf.org machine. 2048 days uptime
19:03 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes that's ok, it's because upwards mobility, see? you can now touch ceilings your parents couldn't.
19:03 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: i think you mean (return (many happy))
19:03 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: it isn't the lamp that catches fire
19:03 mircea_popescu let's diff.
19:03 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: glorious socialist wasteland of stealing the stolen from
19:04 ben_vulpes but hey, at least standard deduction is going to 24k for the married men
19:04 mircea_popescu i thought you lived with two women.
19:04 ben_vulpes no?
19:04 asciilifeform i also thought!
19:04 mircea_popescu aok then
19:04 asciilifeform why did i think this
19:04 ben_vulpes no.
19:04 ben_vulpes why did you all think this?
19:04 mircea_popescu asciilifeform cuz he keeps saying things that go perfectly with it ? i dunno.
19:05 ben_vulpes can't pretend to visit mistress when wife is in same haus
19:05 asciilifeform aha, he has the air of a 2-engined fella
19:05 mircea_popescu see ?
19:05 mircea_popescu YOU JUST DID IT!
19:05 ben_vulpes it says nothing of living omgwtfbbq
19:06 mircea_popescu if you say "can't pretend to visit mistress when wife is in same haus" the parser wil lsettle on "that's because wife and girl share a bedroom."
19:06 ben_vulpes mistress is 90% joke anyways! tell wife going to visit mistress, save time on mistress at shop!
19:06 mircea_popescu it's ok ben jewes, you can tell us.
19:06 ben_vulpes only one woman in my house i swears.
19:07 * mircea_popescu deduces mistress is a boy. LOGIC PREVAILS.
19:07 ben_vulpes most of the time at least
19:07 asciilifeform oh i know how this knot is cut:
19:07 ben_vulpes i snort derisively at you mircea_popescu
19:07 asciilifeform ben_vulpes has one chick, but WITH HYPERTHREADING
19:08 ben_vulpes aka "multiple personality disorder"
19:08 mircea_popescu is he like, a duck ? has threaded business tool ?
19:08 ben_vulpes let me check
19:08 ben_vulpes maybe!
19:08 ben_vulpes my gut is hanging over it, can't tell anymore
19:08 mircea_popescu ~you~ have a gut ?
19:08 mircea_popescu the world is at an end.
19:08 ben_vulpes that'd be the joke, yes
19:09 mircea_popescu aok.
19:09 ben_vulpes "it's fighting PUNCH not fighting PAUNCH you nincompoops!"
19:10 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-05#1597100 << this is not actually true, ftr. back in the days of unfloated double-panel with gas separator, you could get plenty sunburnt in the northern solaria domes during their pathetic excuse for a summer.
19:10 a111 Logged on 2017-01-05 21:53 asciilifeform: ~0 of which gets through typical lamp dome, just as nobody gets sunburn from sitting near a window indoors.
19:11 asciilifeform domes!
19:11 asciilifeform not window
19:11 asciilifeform (yes it does not absorb 100%)
19:12 asciilifeform a small angle makes for fat diff in atmosphere b/w you and sun, consider how beach umbrella worx.
19:12 asciilifeform (angle from vertical)
19:12 mircea_popescu yup
19:13 mircea_popescu anyway, this is a thing of the 70s, mostly gone now. the modern northern "window" is so insulating as you couldn't believe.
19:14 * asciilifeform just measured another led lamp, 0 at 5cm.
19:14 asciilifeform of uv.
19:15 asciilifeform (for this sensor, anything below 400nm)
19:16 mircea_popescu http://archive.is/KxvRD << sadly for the credibility of the us "intelligence community", 134.249.139.239 was doing web/blog spam back in 2014.
19:16 asciilifeform open proxy or wut
19:18 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-05#1597130 << meanwhile low efficiency incandescents i bought 18 month ago in 3s because seemed like novelty item and will die in mere months STILL MARCH ON
19:18 a111 Logged on 2017-01-05 23:46 asciilifeform: led lamp makers are scamming folx left and right in entirely nonsubtle ways (i just unscrewed 5th dead '20 year life!111' bulb this year, none were older than ~1y)
19:18 mircea_popescu having menawhile colored their glass a very superb tint of rose through metal deposition
19:19 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-05#1597139 << quite this, actually. i never "recycle" in the sense of give for free. straight into kitchen trash it all goes. let them learn how to pay.
19:19 a111 Logged on 2017-01-05 23:48 asciilifeform: one reason is that the chumps often submit'em, for free, for 'recycle', and the lamp house gets to sell ~same motherfucking lamp N times
19:19 ben_vulpes http://68.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kw2kn8Aead1qzpam5o1_1280.jpg << "with powerstache and fighting paunch!"
19:20 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i wonder if they have prisoners sift through rubbish in search of lamps yet.
19:20 mircea_popescu let 'em.
19:20 mircea_popescu somehow - they will pay. i ain't giving jack for free.
19:21 mircea_popescu all this "oh, we're all friends" bs is for the dogs. i ain't fiatola's friend.
19:21 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: aha yes i play the exact opposite game. "oh, the recycling bin is the big one? great, that's where everything goes."
19:21 asciilifeform i do different thing -- mail the lamps back, with a note about considering www article re rubbish lamp, and inviting maker to consider honouring the warranty
19:21 asciilifeform the result, curiously enough, is ~two~ new units, about 6 months later, in each case
19:21 mircea_popescu heh, they're doing the whole "portland the spacestation, only so much volume available" thign there huh
19:22 asciilifeform (now, they ALSO burn after 6mo. so not all that useful.)
19:22 mircea_popescu evidently you got one of the recycled.
19:22 mircea_popescu yes, "manufacturer thought things through", but not in the sense usually contemplated.
19:22 asciilifeform 'let's give'im that one SPESHUL horse'
19:22 asciilifeform (tm) (r) (mircea_popescu)
19:22 mircea_popescu ah, the cairo thing ?
19:22 asciilifeform aha.
19:23 mircea_popescu idiots. who the fuck do they think they are, seriously, buncha inept alt-white people.
19:23 asciilifeform soft-white!
19:23 mircea_popescu "oh, he's not from around here, which means we can't live in his house but NEITHER CAN HE IN OURS! because that's how white man supremacy works, totally!"
19:23 asciilifeform (lampism esoterica. 'soft white' is the trade name for the faux-incandescent phosphor variant led)
19:24 mircea_popescu heh
19:24 mircea_popescu meanwhile at the duck pond, http://68.media.tumblr.com/97461d3414b20d53eb11a08ddf547d83/tumblr_mva0e1uGFJ1ra4o0oo1_1280.jpg
19:25 deedbot http://qntra.net/2017/01/fuck-white-people-pack-of-native-chicagoans-torture-captive-white-boy/ << Qntra - "Fuck White People": Pack Of Native Chicagoans Torture Captive White Boy
19:27 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> (now, they ALSO burn after 6mo. so not all that useful.) << Have you hunted for miswired low voltage hvac or door bell transformers? I had a "bulb killing fixture" that was tamed by removing backfeeding noisy ass doorbell transformer.
19:27 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: no such thing here.
19:28 asciilifeform this place didn't even have a doorbell until i put in chinese battery-powered thing
19:28 BingoBoingo And furnace/blower?
19:28 asciilifeform ditto
19:28 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i do have a voltage plotter here, though.
19:28 asciilifeform runs 24/7
19:29 asciilifeform 126.4 v (rms) peak for last 12 months.
19:30 BingoBoingo "How capactive is your swamp?"
19:35 mircea_popescu honestly i have nfi what a "doorbell" is for. police doesn't knock anymore anyway and everyone else should make a fucking appointment.
19:35 mircea_popescu who receives people off the street randomly ?
19:35 asciilifeform people, nobody
19:35 asciilifeform mail.
19:35 mircea_popescu doorbell for mail ?
19:35 asciilifeform for parcels
19:35 mircea_popescu why'd you receive mail personally anyway.
19:36 asciilifeform not everybody has a guard booth with servant chilling his bones by the antitank ditch on the edge of the dirigible field.
19:36 mircea_popescu i guess it's different for collectors huh.
19:41 asciilifeform btw, bonus tip for tuned-in folx, it dun hurt to have a number of cameras pointed at door- or window-shaped holes in your dwelling, some of which are prominent, and might depend on mains current, but others -- not so prominent, and do not, and do not write to the net or to any place you can get to other than by demolishing whole bldg
19:44 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> honestly i have nfi what a "doorbell" is for. police doesn't knock anymore anyway and everyone else should make a fucking appointment. << apparently they are for backfeeding current into switched circuits they are wired off of when said circuits are "off"
19:45 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i saw interesting variant of this, with the selfsame led bulbs, where a dead lamp would light for about 1/2 second after the live one connected in tandem switched (from wall switch) off !
19:45 asciilifeform not enough of a spike to propagate down the wire to where i have the plotter
19:45 asciilifeform but enough to push the 'dead' cap-less unit over the edge, briefly.
19:46 BingoBoingo Count wires in junction box and enter attic to view from above?
19:46 asciilifeform view what
19:46 BingoBoingo wires entering an exiting box
19:46 asciilifeform it's a standard american 15amp circuit
19:47 BingoBoingo No such thing in residential because previous tenants or owners "Pro Idiotas"
19:48 asciilifeform in so far as can tell with naked eye, and with the sensors, it was built 'by the book'.
19:49 asciilifeform speaking of shit wiring, thermovisor will show you some very interesting things in an old house.
19:49 asciilifeform (will also show you who, or what, is alive in parked vans, but best observed quietly)
19:49 BingoBoingo In so far as many magnetic studfinders can tell, galvanized pipe and emt conduit are promising places to drill and screw
19:50 asciilifeform lul didja read the thing backwards or wat
19:50 asciilifeform and they're densitometric not magnetic, wtf
19:51 BingoBoingo Studfinders? Nah magnet on a pivot that "catches" on ferrous metal like nails
19:51 asciilifeform BingoBoingo's is from 19th c or wat
19:52 * BingoBoingo sometimes doesn't care to make 9v battery run just because fancy studfinder was thirsty
19:53 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: http://www.toolsofthetrade.net/hand-tools/layout-tools/dewalt-wall-scanner-teardown_o
19:54 BingoBoingo !~google "johnson stud finder plus"
19:54 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Amazon.com: Johnson Level & Tool 160 Stud Finder Plus : Home ...: <https://www.amazon.com/Johnson-Level-Tool-160-Finder/dp/B00004T808>; Customer Reviews: Johnson Level & Tool 160 Stud Finder Plus: <https://www.amazon.com/Johnson-Level-Tool-160-Finder/product-reviews/B00004T808>; Johnson Stud Finder Plus -160 - The Home Depot: <http://www.homedepot.com/p/Johnson-Stud-Finder-Plus-160/10021
19:56 BingoBoingo !~google stanley 47-400
19:56 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Stanley 47-400 Magnetic Stud Finder - Stud Finders And Scanning ...: <https://www.amazon.com/Stanley-47-400-Magnetic-Stud-Finder/dp/B0000BYD3K>; Amazon.com: Customer Reviews: Stanley 47-400 Magnetic Stud ...: <https://www.amazon.com/Stanley-47-400-Magnetic-Stud-Finder/product-reviews/B0000BYD3K>; Magnetic Stud Finder - 47-400 | STANLEY Tools: (1 more message)
19:56 BingoBoingo Stanley 47-400 is best studfinder by company which produced monster sensortron asciilifeform linked
19:57 asciilifeform aha if you like drilling into yer pipes.
19:57 BingoBoingo That's what measuring tape is for, to check where stud ought to be
19:58 asciilifeform 'ought to' is of limited use.
19:58 asciilifeform incidentally thermovisor will also show you studs
19:58 asciilifeform (exercise for reader, to understand why)
19:59 BingoBoingo studs are thermally conductive relative to every else that should be in wall
19:59 asciilifeform aha
20:01 BingoBoingo brb, sobertime
20:02 asciilifeform in other lulz, http://www.crimeflare.com/russia.html
~ 15 minutes ~
20:18 mircea_popescu and in other screwfinders, http://68.media.tumblr.com/4ccdbcb8853d915d593ca4dcab9fdb55/tumblr_o51sb9U9kq1upevjso1_1280.png
20:18 mircea_popescu or was it studfinders.
20:18 asciilifeform gotta love fleanode
20:19 asciilifeform apparently my nick is 'never registered' on somewhere b/w 1/2 to 2/3 of all fleanode boxen
20:20 mircea_popescu be less terrorist.
20:21 asciilifeform لا إله إلا الله محمد رسول الله!
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