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00:28 mircea_popescu word.
00:39 BingoBoingo Any ways a proper spreadsheet is not software. It is stationary.
00:50 mircea_popescu stationery.
00:51 BingoBoingo Why not both?
00:51 BingoBoingo Not like it gets up and walks away with the seekrits
00:53 mircea_popescu lol aite. both
01:06 trinque https://www.engadget.com/2016/08/08/oracle-data-breach/ << usg.oracle haxed
01:06 mircea_popescu this is good for fiat.
01:07 trinque lol
01:14 BingoBoingo In related surprises:
01:14 BingoBoingo 7 ate 9
~ 2 hours 24 minutes ~
03:39 trinque http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-06#1516222 << not sure. I'm thinking maybe we stop fighting cruft and fire you up one of these: http://deedbot.org/v/ircbot-genesis.vpatch http://deedbot.org/v/logbot-genesis.vpatch
03:39 a111 Logged on 2016-08-06 19:02 asciilifeform: ;;later tell trinque any idea why deedbot sometimes spits out a phuctoring twice ?
03:40 trinque I'm gonna test this guy more tomorrow and add message splitting to the first one, then probably sign.
03:41 trinque you could just shit messages as you like from phuctor and not have to worry about RSS.
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03:43 trinque anyone else wants to play with a lispybot / offer critique / point and laugh, feel free
~ 27 minutes ~
04:10 ben_vulpes it is a very tidy sourceball, trinque.
04:10 ben_vulpes on the topic of pointing and laughing, http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-06#1497751 << phf would you be so kind as to share what you did to your wp-content/themes/comments.php to get past the "stale comments" thinger?
04:10 a111 Logged on 2016-07-06 01:31 asciilifeform: phf apparently knows enough to replicate working setup without the missing pieces and without using the pig-ugly default theme.
~ 4 hours 3 minutes ~
08:14 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-09#1517299 << if i had a working lispified phuctor, yes.
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08:14 a111 Logged on 2016-08-09 07:41 trinque: you could just shit messages as you like from phuctor and not have to worry about RSS.
08:14 asciilifeform but not presently.
~ 1 hours 55 minutes ~
10:10 phf ben_vulpes: i think everything's here http://107.170.141.103/2016/wp-content-for-a/
10:13 mircea_popescu incidentally, anyone recall diablo 1 multiplayer mode ? which nobody ever played, because you could edit your client to send to the other "your player was hit by 1`000`000 dmg" and the idiot'd take it at face value and kill the other person ?
10:15 mircea_popescu $up vcvbnmcvm
10:15 deedbot vcvbnmcvm voiced for 30 minutes.
10:21 phf ben_vulpes: i have a patchset, that takes wp from stock 2.7 to mircea_popescu's version, and then adds a few cleanups that i did. once i get through all the other shit i'm working on, i'll release it. the stock->mp patch is useful if you want to do further work on the codebase and have some idea where mp's custom patches begin and end
10:25 mircea_popescu check it out, we managed to replicate in vitro ALL OF FOSS
10:34 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: eh we dun even have a gnudiff that build without gnudiff.
10:34 asciilifeform or a gnat that builds without gnat (which has been annoying asciilifeform greatly in recent times)
10:37 mircea_popescu asciilifeform point being : "a) here is a package of open source software that b) worked great c) for a lengthy, unclear and unverifyable past interval d) maintained by an intelligent but dour and otherwise busy party that e) is well respected but no longer much involved f) yet you could ask q of them if only you could find out how to ask an intelligent one g) which is pointless anyway because you can't make much sense of the
10:37 mircea_popescu answer h) yet there's a new team maintaining the item i) except it's unclear exactly who exactly how and to what exact purpose or standard"
10:37 mircea_popescu points a through i === foss.
~ 1 hours 34 minutes ~
12:12 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the open sores thing is a clusterfuck of a depth that i cannot even convey in words. e.g., in the past few days i have uncovered catastrophic bugs in gcc, which NO ONE will ever fix, or likely even replicate, because they ONLY show up when you try to build version X with version Y, for particular pairings of X,Y, and similar
12:12 asciilifeform the thing is rotten to the core
12:12 mircea_popescu it "works"!
12:12 asciilifeform and likewise everything which stands, supposedly stably, on top of it.
12:18 asciilifeform nor is the thing in any sense approaching readable
12:18 asciilifeform or maintainable
12:18 asciilifeform in fact, it is ~impossible to build it on 2 boxes, supposing that they are not mirror images of one another's disks, and end up with same gcc.
12:19 asciilifeform at least it is theoretically possible to build gcc on another compiler (i personally have not attempted this, and the last confirmed report i know of is some years ago, however)
12:19 asciilifeform but, e.g., gnat, will ONLY BUILD USING ANOTHER GNAT
12:19 asciilifeform for fucks sake.
12:19 asciilifeform how the FIRST gnat was built, NO ONE KNOWS today.
12:20 mircea_popescu it evolved. from frogs. how was the first human built!
12:23 asciilifeform evolved, l0l, from ken thompson.
12:26 asciilifeform in point of fact we do not have a freezable software stack.
12:27 asciilifeform it isn't even that we are operating on an animal that is squirming on the table, but that it is not an animal at all, but a bag of maggots and weevils
12:33 asciilifeform so, for instance, i have, theoretically, a gnat that builds for mips, but in actuality it dun work.
12:33 ben_vulpes thanks phf, i used shinohai's dump as i didn't realize that your tgz contained wordpress as well as wp-content
12:34 asciilifeform because ALL version of gcc i've been able to get a hold of, which are able to build a version of gnat i've been able to get a hold of, refuse to build gnattools (the linker) when standard lib (which dun belong on a microcontroller) is disabled.
12:34 asciilifeform i found a dozen different sites with ad-hoc recipes, and patches, and NONE worked
12:35 asciilifeform on top of this, all but two of the gnat ver / gcc ver building it combos i've tried, barf.
12:36 asciilifeform and they barf in non-debuggable ways because gnumake was written by chimps, and 'ERROR 2' !!!11
12:40 mircea_popescu this reminds me of http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-06#1515840
12:40 a111 Logged on 2016-08-06 04:53 trinque: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=20015 << if the world ever rights "helpful" is going to be a euphemism for "tries to slip dick in when you turn your back"
12:40 asciilifeform sooooooo then i put on gas mask, and vivisected the makefiles until FORCED bloody thing to build gnattools
12:41 asciilifeform which of course barfed, because it is unable to find the motherfucking std lib that supposedly 'is optional'
12:41 asciilifeform but in actuality gnat expects it
12:41 asciilifeform and the recipe whereby you substitute a dummy -- dun work.
12:41 mircea_popescu or for that matter, that old "fuck you and netbase" http://trilema.com/2014/ubuntu-is-a-worse-piece-of-shit-than-ms-dos-ever-was/#selection-145.0-145.98
12:42 mircea_popescu asciilifeform and the much worse point of this is - WHAT THE FUCK is a "standard lib" supposed to be thaT DOESN'T fit on microcontroller. what the fuck standard is this standard, utf-standard, the antistandard.
12:42 mircea_popescu the EXACT opposite of a fucking standard.
12:42 mircea_popescu the #1 rule a standard must pass is BEING SMALL.
12:43 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ada has a titanic standard lib, this is not really escapable on a c machine if you want SAFE data structures, threads, etc.
12:43 asciilifeform it has its own fucking scheduler ferfuxxsake
12:43 asciilifeform because unix scheduler is RETARDED
12:44 asciilifeform now on a micro, one needs VERY little of this, and folks traditionally trim the thing down to fit by sacrificing pieces
12:44 asciilifeform this has been done for arm, apparently
12:44 asciilifeform but no other box.
12:45 asciilifeform all known 'small' standards, e.g., ansi scheme, have resulted in ~99% of the extant code in the respective language using nonstandard libs.
12:46 asciilifeform this unicorn, the SMALL language in which ONE CAN ACTUALLY PROGRAM, is not yet born.
12:50 mircea_popescu somehow the small alphabet in which one can actually write - is.
12:50 mircea_popescu yet modern idiot fancies himself much more intelligent than anyone who ever lived ; and better informed, and "progressed".
12:50 asciilifeform alphabet is not the correct analogy, dictionary - is.
12:50 mircea_popescu do tell, how are you richer than your father, and his father, when his reservoir was full and yours is empty ?
12:50 mircea_popescu how so ?
12:50 mircea_popescu dictionary is eminently NOT a standard.
12:50 mircea_popescu it's a guideline.
12:51 asciilifeform it is the closest thing any humanlang has to a standard.
12:51 mircea_popescu "this text is non-compliant, replace letter ? with a proper letter and resubmit" - right
12:51 mircea_popescu "this text is non-compliant, dictionary translation makes no sense" - wrong
12:51 mircea_popescu not so. the fucking alphabet is the only human lang standard.
12:52 asciilifeform you cannot decipher dead language using alphabet strictly.
12:52 mircea_popescu thinking the dictionary "a standard" is exactly the level of ignorance one displays thinking "the blue earth internet icon"
12:52 asciilifeform hence why i said 'closest thing'
12:52 mircea_popescu this is besides the point.
12:52 mircea_popescu not what a standard is.
12:53 asciilifeform it is what a standard is in compiler-land. i.e., i can, using only the standard, re-create the compiler.
12:53 asciilifeform on a martian computer.
12:53 asciilifeform it is what a standard is in the land of nuts and bolts, likewise.
12:54 asciilifeform i screwed in a modern part into a bolt plate made 35 yrs ago, last night, and it fit with 0 measurable error.
12:54 asciilifeform because motherfucking standards.
12:55 asciilifeform you can fire a modern luger round in a ww1 luger, also.
12:56 asciilifeform despite that the modern round were made by folks who were born after everyone involved in making the pistol were long dead.
12:56 asciilifeform because motherfucking standards.
12:57 mircea_popescu i dunno.
12:58 mircea_popescu a standard for 1 inch nut does not a) specify material b) enter into considerations of what levers to push on what type of cnc mill
12:58 mircea_popescu seems your notion of a standard unduly includes both a and b
12:59 asciilifeform attempts to WHOLLY detach a standard from particular artifacts - e.g., si def of the metre in terms of cesium atom cross-sections - have not gone far.
13:00 asciilifeform because it is difficult to measure, much less reshape, physical object without using another such
13:00 mircea_popescu still. when we discuss language - the alphabet is the only standard. the dictionary is not a standard ; nor aspires to be a standard.
13:00 mircea_popescu this difference is important, and apparently not much understood through normal schooling.
13:01 PeterL French dictionary tries to be a standard
13:01 mircea_popescu does not. french is specifically the one culture language which does not have a normative, academy-produced dictionary.,
13:01 mircea_popescu they tried for three centuries, gave up.
13:01 asciilifeform a dead language with small literature corpus is arguably standardized.
13:01 PeterL what I mean is the french have the academy trying to specify their language
13:02 asciilifeform e.g., old norse.
13:02 mircea_popescu specification and standard are also different processes. a specified item is evidently different from a standardized item.
13:02 mircea_popescu asciilifeform non-culture languages are necessarily kinda sucky, amateur affairs.
13:03 mircea_popescu similarity, specificity, standardisation. 0, 1, infinity.
13:04 PeterL can you expand on what you mean by standard and specified being different?
13:05 asciilifeform asking to standardize a living humanlang in the nut-and-bolt sense is rather like asking for a standard liver, leg, or cock.
13:05 mircea_popescu if you say "bring me a mcburger" you are asking for a standard item. if you say "bring me a burger" you are asking for a specified item.
13:06 mircea_popescu the latter makes some specific comments as to some points of interest - "the meat should be between some sort of bread". the former specifies every single aspect of the item, including a complete chemical composition etc.
13:06 mircea_popescu perhaps forcing the point, as these are both industrial processes. anyway.
13:06 asciilifeform and alphabet of, e.g., english, is 'standard' for english in the exact 100% useless sense that mendeleev table is 'standard for mcburger'.
13:06 mircea_popescu utility is not so clearly married to this alfie.
13:07 mircea_popescu there's no intrinsic utility of abstract objects.
13:08 asciilifeform 'standard', in industrial world, has a meaning. it is a document which at least ~attempts~ an exhaustive description of an object, with an aim to enabling reader to re-create it.
13:08 mircea_popescu yeawell. not much of a meaning.
13:08 mircea_popescu in any fucking case, "here's the standard - it doesn't work for yout item" is rank nonsense, and the paragon of anti-utility.
13:08 mircea_popescu that phrase should immediately reduce to "your item is stupid and you're dumb for working on it"
13:09 asciilifeform elaborate re where one finds 'here's the standard - it doesn't work for yout item' ??
13:11 mircea_popescu when standard lib (which dun belong on a microcontroller)
13:12 asciilifeform and standard tank shell dun fit in the luger.
13:12 asciilifeform what of it ?
13:12 mircea_popescu mno. EITHER "the standard library" is not the standard library ; or ELSE your mips is a chunk of charcoal and you've got down syndrome to be trying to program on it.
13:13 mircea_popescu that's what standards are.
13:13 asciilifeform well, if you actually were to read the ada standard, it has a massive annex specifying ~optional~ components.
13:13 mircea_popescu the "standard tank shell" is not "the standard shell" for this exact reason.
13:13 asciilifeform which happens to add up to pretty much whole standard lib.
13:14 mircea_popescu asciilifeform exactly. i did, and was impressed by apparently hermetic points like this, such as an understanding of the difference between standard and specification etc.
13:14 asciilifeform the standard was and is a titanic work, imho.
13:14 asciilifeform but the implementation is somewhat other matter.
13:14 mircea_popescu granted.
13:14 mircea_popescu quite.
13:15 asciilifeform as with cpp, there is EXACTLY ONE usable public implementation.
13:15 asciilifeform and it is as rusty as a ww2 tank pulled from swamp in ukraine.
13:15 mircea_popescu what's the exactly one on cpp, llvm ?
13:15 mircea_popescu /troll
13:15 asciilifeform lolvm
13:15 asciilifeform i did say 'usable, public', i can find you winblowz closed turd adas by the dozen also.
13:16 asciilifeform they dun exist in my planet.
13:17 mircea_popescu anyway, to put it in the harshest term : a man may be shot for one item he produced not being identical to another item someone else produced. this means the item was standardized.
13:18 mircea_popescu alternatively, a man may be whipped for one item he produced not meeting what his master told him to produce. this means the item was specified.
13:19 asciilifeform aha!
13:19 asciilifeform but moreover, there must be, in the former case, a mechanical test which determines if he is to be shot.
13:19 mircea_popescu any disparity between two items suffices ; everyone involved gets shot.
13:20 mircea_popescu $s "i want an equal quantity of jam in each muffin"
13:20 a111 0 results for "\"i want an equal quantity of jam in each muffin\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22i%20want%20an%20equal%20quantity%20of%20jam%20in%20each%20muffin%22
13:20 mircea_popescu eh ffs.
13:20 mircea_popescu (it's from casino)
13:23 danielpbarron blueberries*
13:23 mircea_popescu oh!
13:23 mircea_popescu right you are huh.
13:23 asciilifeform as a boy, i read a - i think czech - folk tale, where a servant is made to pour JUST THE RIGHT amount of wine in the king's glass, 'too little, or too much, Off! with yer head!'
13:23 asciilifeform and of course loses his head, because it was quite impossible to JUST-so.
13:24 mircea_popescu of course.
13:24 asciilifeform http://www.worldoftales.com/European_folktales/Czechoslovak_folktale_17.html << hey it exists in engl. apparently.
13:25 asciilifeform 'There he ordered Yirik to pour him out a goblet of wine. "And I warn you," he said, "that you forfeit your head if you pour a drop too much or too little."'
13:25 mircea_popescu "a drop" is pipette-able though.
13:25 asciilifeform king pulls out microscope and still notices shortfall.
13:27 mircea_popescu he ~did~ say drop...
13:28 asciilifeform but did kingdom have STANDARD!111 drop!!
13:28 asciilifeform therein being the rub.
13:29 mircea_popescu <mircea_popescu> "a drop" is pipette-able though.
13:29 asciilifeform even a very recent europe had idiot circus of ill-specified weights and measures...
13:29 asciilifeform recall how napoleon was 'shortened' ?
13:30 mircea_popescu hm ?
13:31 asciilifeform french foot was slightly longer than british.
13:31 mircea_popescu ah ah. sure.
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13:54 BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats
13:54 gribble Current Blocks: 424432 | Current Difficulty: 2.0189321085305896E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 425375 | Next Difficulty In: 943 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 18 hours, 49 minutes, and 12 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
13:55 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
13:55 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 584.31, vol: 3538.96290955 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 583.313, vol: 6130.57023 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 604.1, vol: 0.0 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 585.113391, vol: 98681.36490000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 586.77, vol: 1044.94796213 | Volume-weighted last average: 585.002330803
13:57 deedbot [Qntra] Merkel Regime To Broaden Issuance Of Driving Bans In Germany - http://qntra.net/2016/08/merkel-regime-to-broaden-issuance-of-driving-bans-in-germany/
14:00 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: suspensed --> suspended ?
14:00 BingoBoingo ty fxd
14:00 asciilifeform 'when you can administratively imprison them later' --> before?!
14:01 BingoBoingo No. before is common. Suspended sentence means you tell them they are free except for X,Y and then later you lock them up for clause Z later.
14:10 trinque mod6: V99994 built just fine
14:11 trinque http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-09#1517304 << nah, anything that can speak pgsql, i.e. psycopg2
14:11 a111 Logged on 2016-08-09 12:14 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-09#1517299 << if i had a working lispified phuctor, yes.
14:11 trinque first item simply connects and stays connected to IRC; second item creates a two-way interface to IRC via pg
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14:27 mircea_popescu and in other dubious entertainment, http://i.imgur.com/iQlIhbb.jpg
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14:49 shinohai $ticker --market all
14:50 shinohai duh
14:50 shinohai ;;ticker --market all
14:50 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 584.41, vol: 3499.03957998 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 583.031, vol: 6122.57726 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 604.1, vol: 0.0 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 584.568953, vol: 99279.99300000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 585.31, vol: 1009.12428445 | Volume-weighted last average: 584.485024797
14:51 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: wat's that
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14:52 asciilifeform trinque: the db is a painful and incurable bottleneck for phuctor, the LAST thing i want is to use it for anything else.
14:58 trinque asciilifeform: would be trivial to write another subclass of ircbot that just sat there reading stdin and shitting stdout
14:59 asciilifeform trinque: the abstraction will leak.
14:59 asciilifeform just as it does now
14:59 asciilifeform (e.g., line length limit)
14:59 asciilifeform fact is, irc is NOT a stdout-compatible device.
14:59 asciilifeform has severe impedance mismatch.
15:00 trinque asciilifeform: mkay, well, I'm spending precisely zero time debugging some python rss module
15:00 trinque rss is a piece of shit that descends from the www idiocy
15:00 asciilifeform trinque: consider printing the url first
15:00 trinque that I can do
15:00 asciilifeform that'll suffice.
15:01 asciilifeform ty trinque .
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15:18 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: wat's that << Looks like some species of farm gurl
15:19 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: what led you to this conclusion ?
15:20 deedbot http://107.170.141.103/2016/capi/ << BARKS IN THE WIND - capi
15:20 deedbot http://107.170.141.103/2016/hello/ << BARKS IN THE WIND - HELLO
15:20 deedbot http://107.170.141.103/2016/wp-content-for-a/ << BARKS IN THE WIND - wp-content for a.
15:20 deedbot http://107.170.141.103/2016/as-from-ccl/ << BARKS IN THE WIND - applescript from clozure
15:21 trinque ^ new format
15:21 trinque also hai to phf's blog
15:21 asciilifeform neato
15:21 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: The floral patterned dresses, hair clearly styled by each other, and sorta bored rural look on their faces.
~ 22 minutes ~
15:44 deedbot http://qntra.net/2016/08/former-illinois-governor-loses-convictions-but-keeps-prison-sentence/ << Qntra - Former Illinois Governor Loses Convictions But Keeps Prison Sentence
15:56 deedbot http://qntra.net/2016/08/alleged-orlando-shooters-father-seated-behind-hillary-at-rally/ << Qntra - Alleged Orlando Shooter's Father Seated Behind Hillary At Rally
16:02 BingoBoingo https://voat.co/v/fatpeoplehate/comments/1221067
16:05 asciilifeform http://freya.theladyofthelabyrinth.com/?page_id=512 << just as unrelated to anything, but imho moar interesting
16:06 asciilifeform ' But the real morals of the story is that one must be able to employ every little part of the animal you kill, like the man does… '
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16:52 trinque shinohai: ben_vulpes gave me the wad o' wp-mp you gave him. am I supposed to apply this patch, or is it already applied? it broke when applying
16:53 shinohai weird trinque worked fine after i did all that.
16:53 * trinque gonna start using blogotron instead of just dumping things in the logs
16:53 trinque shinohai: what am I supposed to do, unpack then apply that patch?
16:53 trinque I'm just humping the football over here
16:54 shinohai yeah I unpacked it all the applied patch, built database and was good to go
16:55 trinque mkay I'll try again
16:56 shinohai kk
16:56 trinque man I haven't phpeed since 2006
16:58 shinohai It took a while for me to remember everything but I guess like bike riding and all
16:59 trinque <?= 'hello darkness my old friend' ?>
17:02 trinque shinohai: ah the patch diddles wp-content too; got it now
17:02 shinohai Not sure how you got it from ben but for me i packed it up precisely as I got it working xD
17:03 trinque time for a genesis vpatch!
17:04 shinohai yup
17:04 trinque anyhow you packaged it up fine; I just skipped a step
17:06 shinohai Maybe it will get whittled down more when I have some time to dedicate to it
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17:43 mircea_popescu "peter john I am giving a testimony of how i become rich and famous today... i was deeply strangled up by poverty and i had no body to help me, and also i search for help from different corners but to no avail. i see people around me getting rich but to me i was so ashamed of my self so i met a man on my way he was very rich and he was a doctor so he told me something and i think over"
17:44 mircea_popescu teh mentality of the poor idiot penning these things... so he's gonna tell me he's famous ? why, because he's more or less obama, and if he hadn't told me i'd have never known ?
17:44 mircea_popescu peter john the nobel prize laureate.
17:44 asciilifeform does is 'famous' a mistranslation of some unique nigerian word, or wat
17:44 mircea_popescu from his country of africa which is ken ya ni ger ya ?
17:44 asciilifeform spamlandia.
17:45 mircea_popescu he's looking for help in the vast fields of literal representation. against this demon-beast strangling him.
17:45 mircea_popescu because we're all equally people and therefore all equally potent in richdom. just his time hasn't come yet to becoming in wealth-hood.
17:47 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-09#1517476 << coupla too old bitchez.
17:47 a111 Logged on 2016-08-09 18:51 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wat's that
17:47 asciilifeform it is not even easy to be certain re what 'he was very rich' means in the mental landscape of the degenerates.
17:47 asciilifeform i.e. 'owns five goats' ?
17:48 asciilifeform mercedes and five goats ?
17:48 mircea_popescu obviously. since his notion of fame doesn't match the common notion of fame, you'd expect his notion of richness doesn't either.
17:48 asciilifeform and the whole exercise becomes one of deciphering martian language.
17:48 mircea_popescu hey, it's what they pay us mercedi for, amirite.
17:49 asciilifeform 5 goat / minute.
17:49 mircea_popescu just about!
17:49 mircea_popescu tho to be honest mercedessen seems a better plural
17:49 asciilifeform tru.
17:50 mircea_popescu i still remember the fucking lolz we had as kiddies when they introduced this penpal thing ; they religiously matched all boys with girls, and this guy got paired with... mercedes gonzales.
17:50 mircea_popescu god it was a riot.
~ 1 hours 6 minutes ~
18:57 mod6 <+trinque> mod6: V99994 built just fine << nice! thanks :]
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19:17 mircea_popescu #up pouledodue
19:17 mircea_popescu $up pouledodue
19:17 deedbot pouledodue voiced for 30 minutes.
19:30 asciilifeform from the dept. of Run Moar Winblowz, https://securelist.com/analysis/publications/75533/faq-the-projectsauron-apt
19:31 mircea_popescu "Cannot communicate securely with peer: no common encryption algorithm(s)." i presume this is good for fiat.
19:31 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: this came out of what, curl ?
19:32 mircea_popescu the-thing-which-i-use
19:32 asciilifeform '...The attackers used multiple interesting and unusual techniques, including: Data exfiltration and real-time status reporting using DNS requests. Implant deployment using legitimate software update scripts....'
19:32 asciilifeform ^ bonus lul
19:33 asciilifeform but didja know, how WORLD WORX, ya CAN'T HAVE computer without dns and updatez!111111111111111
19:37 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1056325 << it's the curl thing aha.
19:37 asciilifeform or rather, where it first pops up in the logz.
19:37 asciilifeform them bitz were shuffled 'round, to get them dirty terrorists UPDATING LIKE GOD SAID TO etc
19:38 mircea_popescu aww
19:38 asciilifeform 'The website may try to fallback to TLS 1.0 in a way that is no longer allowed in current releases or may be using a deprecated cipher suite.'
19:39 mircea_popescu asciilifeform real men ban dns traffic on their net machines.
19:40 mircea_popescu (i am proud to report i've deployed this long ago ; and it causes absolutely no inconvenience whatever, just in case the "killing god is impossibru!!!" emovibe is strong in the reader)
19:40 asciilifeform well apparently it did keep mircea_popescu from searchengining for the error msg.
19:41 asciilifeform and perhaps it is 'not inconvenient' because other folks do this for him ?
19:41 mircea_popescu i wasn't going to.
19:41 asciilifeform all quite reminiscent of rms
19:41 mircea_popescu i so deeply don't give a shit WHY some failure failed.
19:41 asciilifeform and his 'i ask friends to load www links for me and print and to bring me'
19:41 mircea_popescu except... i don't.
19:42 mircea_popescu i literally dun care what the thing may contain.
19:43 mircea_popescu if it's public-newsworthy i'll read it on qntra ; if it's nonpublic i'll read it in reports. bout how it goes. i suppose you can say this is that.
19:43 asciilifeform it works, apparently, for mircea_popescu .
19:44 asciilifeform but is advice that is of 0 use outside of the dirigible.
19:44 mircea_popescu mebbe try it first.
19:45 asciilifeform try what? if i can't search for error messages, i literally go broke.
19:45 asciilifeform more or less immediately.
19:45 asciilifeform just as i run, e.g., virii, which like to use dns.
19:46 asciilifeform but i guess i forgot that... YOU CAN HAVE ONE COMPUTER ONLY
19:46 asciilifeform or what.
19:48 asciilifeform sometimes i wonder if mircea_popescu is seeeekritly an orthodox jew:
19:48 asciilifeform y'know, it STILL counts as dns'in if you send gurlz to do it...
19:48 mircea_popescu but i ... don't. for honests.
19:49 asciilifeform mircea_popescu's intel group investigates solely using binoculars ?
19:49 mircea_popescu oh oh that. i don't care what they do.
19:49 asciilifeform ah there we go.
19:50 mircea_popescu as you might've noticed, i'm the opposite of a micromanager.
19:50 asciilifeform try asking them to do next mission without dns.
19:50 asciilifeform see what they say.
19:51 asciilifeform (i haven't any dispute re dns being a work of evil, from day 1, but the rms solution is not a solution and i will continue to laugh)
19:52 mircea_popescu works on my machine!
20:05 mircea_popescu and in other butts, http://67.media.tumblr.com/bb86e0301d8858b4ebde397e23087cf0/tumblr_n99rjotaV21se6xvlo1_500.gif
20:06 shinohai bravissimo
20:10 mircea_popescu and in other ethereum news : the "white hack" attackers... stole... the pot.
20:10 asciilifeform what did they originally propose to do with it?
20:11 mircea_popescu heh.
20:11 asciilifeform give to starving nigerians ?
20:11 mircea_popescu something something rigthful owners something etc.
20:11 asciilifeform ah lel
20:11 asciilifeform so, 2nd hardphork when ?
20:11 mircea_popescu https://archive.is/19oTs wall of text/pointless dramaz.
20:12 deedbot http://trilema.com/2016/giro-girotondo-con-il-sesso-e-bello-il-mondo/ << Trilema - Giro girotondo con il sesso e bello il mondo
20:15 mircea_popescu shinohai http://67.media.tumblr.com/50156485fcb4ea53aa37acebbf1ee06a/tumblr_n99rjotaV21se6xvlo2_500.gif << thgere you go.
20:16 * shinohai claps
~ 1 hours 25 minutes ~
21:41 asciilifeform turns out whole 'giro girotondo' is on youtube
21:41 asciilifeform pretty lulzy
21:49 mircea_popescu most old foreign stuff is on youtube.
21:50 mircea_popescu shows what a vibrant space one'd have without the usg.mpaa idjits
~ 46 minutes ~
22:36 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ~all the ru material worth seeing, afaik, is.
22:36 asciilifeform the films, just as the b00kz.
22:37 mircea_popescu aha
22:48 asciilifeform in other vintage lulz, https://ballandalus.wordpress.com/2014/09/11/a-hispano-muslim-embassy-to-the-vikings-in-845-an-account-of-al-ghazals-journey-to-the-north
22:51 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/CEB08E08EEF3C71AEC185767B076C306E945E535BE55A8CAAAB9378A9F7CD4D1 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 5683000818959356094387121433230433 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Andreas Fleig <andreasfleig@googlemail.com>; '
22:51 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/FBC53C4FC84FB6570CC9AACEE304CF6E13339C4581D517A786C30DABA3995874 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 90055334522847202481312882334750017605897224759371784435327473584564809667943 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '177.234.13.179 (ssh-rsa key from 177.234.13.179 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <sshscan-queries+177.234.13.179@mkj.lt
23:00 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/62A0A5FF9984D126E11550FC9BAFE24C40A6B55F885AA428EFFDF4AF59405FC6 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 90055334522847202481312882334750017605897224759371784435327473584564809667943 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '177.234.4.97 (ssh-rsa key from 177.234.4.97 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <sshscan-queries+177.234.4.97@mkj.lt>; '
23:00 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/FBC53C4FC84FB6570CC9AACEE304CF6E13339C4581D517A786C30DABA3995874 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 90055334522847202481312882334750017605897224759371784435327473584564809667943 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '177.234.13.179 (ssh-rsa key from 177.234.13.179 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <sshscan-queries+177.234.13.179@mkj.lt
23:01 mircea_popescu heh getting in zone is it.
~ 18 minutes ~
23:19 asciilifeform $s 90055334522847202481312882334750017605897224759371784435327473584564809667943
23:19 a111 3 results for "90055334522847202481312882334750017605897224759371784435327473584564809667943", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=90055334522847202481312882334750017605897224759371784435327473584564809667943
23:30 BingoBoingo https://archive.is/NKU6L << Fat Ethiopian Olympic swimmer
23:31 BingoBoingo Not like grotesque fat, but like WTF? Why bother sending someone when your best swimmer is 20-30% worse than the next worst country's swimmer?
23:35 BingoBoingo Like someone paid for the dude to be last place. Not even with reasonable expectations they could do otherwise, but solidly knowing what would happen.
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