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00:09 adlai ;;later tell ben_vulpes: "Teaching people to look at the world as a malleable thing is one of the foundations of socialist brainrot" << so satoshi was a communist now too? and get a comment section already willya, it's blogging 101
00:09 gribble The operation succeeded.
00:11 ben_vulpes individuals may on occasion change the world of their own accord, but teaching the normie that such is within his grasp is the height of stupid
00:12 * adlai is talking about the jim crow tardation
00:12 adlai if a meme is to be killed, it's to be done right, and anybody meming "jim crow hurr durr" doesn't actually understand what bitcoin's good for
00:13 adlai there's a connection here, hamevin yavin
00:13 adlai satoshi says, "the world is malleable and so is bitcoin!" sipa says "maybe not", so we shoot him before he starts giving any really dangerous ideas
00:13 adlai idiots.
00:13 adlai !down adlai
00:14 ben_vulpes is this jim crow thing a thread i missed?
00:26 BingoBoingo the seg wit stuff
00:30 ben_vulpes ah clever
00:32 ben_vulpes ;;later tell adlai that post predated my ever hearing about segwit
00:32 gribble The operation succeeded.
00:34 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: i only know what those fuckwits are up to because of you
00:35 BingoBoingo Well I guess nao I have to qntra an explainer
00:35 ben_vulpes i got the hazy notion that someone wanted to implement something that involved...not validating the whole blockchain. tuned out.
00:36 ben_vulpes also, outside my wot. watch me give zero fuxx.
00:37 ben_vulpes ~up amiller
00:37 ben_vulpes !up amiller
00:37 ben_vulpes hyu
00:37 ben_vulpes !gup Guest1038
00:37 ben_vulpes good grief
00:37 ben_vulpes !up Guest1038
00:43 BingoBoingo <ben_vulpes> i got the hazy notion that someone wanted to implement something that involved...not validating the whole blockchain. tuned out. << Appears to be new soft phork tx type. details aren't clear to me yet
00:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00050917 = 4.5316 BTC [-]
00:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36800 @ 0.0005089 = 18.7275 BTC [-] {2}
01:07 ben_vulpes does anyone know of any decent sociopolitical histories of tls/ssl?
01:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 107100 @ 0.00051382 = 55.0301 BTC [+] {3}
01:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25700 @ 0.00051417 = 13.2142 BTC [+] {2}
01:23 mats feeling some regret about this eth bet
01:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27750 @ 0.00051464 = 14.2813 BTC [+]
01:24 ben_vulpes > regret
01:24 ben_vulpes > bet
01:25 ben_vulpes > feel
01:25 ben_vulpes what's the story?
01:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55001 @ 0.00051499 = 28.325 BTC [+] {2}
01:29 mats the not-usg remora collective that bought into eth ipo is broke as fuck and are incapable of triggering share dump despite sizable payout from bitbet for this service
01:30 mats there goes ~4btc
01:36 ben_vulpes share dump? the sale that would drive the price down to bet-throwing levels?
01:37 ben_vulpes didja take the bitcoin side of the ebt?
01:39 fluffypony mats: didn't you have a small hedge against your bet?
01:41 ben_vulpes A FLUFFYPONY
01:41 fluffypony A CASCADIAN HAXXER
01:41 ben_vulpes L33T HAXX0R
01:42 fluffypony so l33t his password is 1337
01:42 * ben_vulpes wonders if anyone got the implicit self-deprecatory 'hack' joke
01:44 BingoBoingo You aren't a complete hack ben_vulpes, just a bit careless with your emacs buffers.
01:45 ben_vulpes /quit
01:45 fluffypony /ragequit
01:46 BingoBoingo You make up for that though by being a jew who knows better than to blow all of the money on the smaller person's preschool.
01:46 * trinque went to the overly expensive preschool in question
01:46 trinque only memory of it was some kid putting hair clips all along his tongue
01:46 trinque I guess he was expressing himself
01:48 fluffypony if it's not Monte-sorry it's not worth talking about
01:48 mats fluffypony: nope
01:48 mircea_popescu adlai> satoshi says, "the world is malleable and so is bitcoin!" sipa says "maybe not", so we shoot him before he starts giving any really dangerous ideas << you really should lay off the sauce.
01:48 mats ben_vulpes: yes, i took btc side
01:48 mircea_popescu <ben_vulpes> does anyone know of any decent sociopolitical histories of tls/ssl? << "no" or "only shitty ones" depending on your clearance.
01:50 ben_vulpes the curricula are purchaseable for like 500 dollars
01:51 ben_vulpes i have yet to meet a teacher i'd entrust the whole of any educational program to outside my wot
01:51 ben_vulpes perhaps a slice here or there, like latin or ballroom dancing
01:52 ben_vulpes but never fucking ever will i readily consent to stick my offspring in a daycare for an amount of attention outside of my control to be paid to them.
01:54 mircea_popescu oh i thought you were contemplating a mistress.
01:54 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: narrative scrolling through my head is "tbl made htmlz, smart ppl thot waz cool, rest of internet piled on, shartups demanded cc processing over webz, tls/ssl became defacto"
01:54 mircea_popescu here's the thing : not your call to make. by the time they need or can benefit from that sort of thing, they're old enough to pick their own/
01:55 ben_vulpes tutoring is decent work for a mistress, neh?
01:55 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes that's actually pretty accurate. except smart ppl did not think it was cool. "smart" people had visions of a wikipedia-bayesian world.
01:55 mircea_popescu amusingly enough, the facts fell in, but their interpretation of "what it'll be like"... heh heh
01:55 ben_vulpes well i did think about it for a few weeks before bringing it up. 'was cool' is a simplification of the whole 'semantic web' trip.
01:56 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: old enough to pick, old enough also to have the wot to select from?
01:56 mircea_popescu nah, it's not even that. it's ... you know how the sort of fucktard that writes sf and like... lives off juices and shit [we're talking 70s here] always represents "the future" with these robed floating aliens of "twu ewolwed" ?
01:56 mircea_popescu well... they figured that's it.
01:57 mircea_popescu ironically... it did bring them the coveted fucking star trek touch panels
01:57 mircea_popescu ie, all the factual bits DID fall into place.
01:57 ben_vulpes heh
01:58 ben_vulpes but on the other thread, from what pool are 'they' to 'pick their own'? must i not provide?
01:59 mircea_popescu there is no pool.
01:59 mircea_popescu if they're worth a shit they'll find and if not, a well. most stuff developing in an uterus is meant to abort sooner or later anyway.
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02:00 BingoBoingo <ben_vulpes> but on the other thread, from what pool are 'they' to 'pick their own'? must i not provide? << The pool that knows wheeties actually isn't the breakfast of champion, because that is two scoops of whey and a scoop of dry instant coffee in an shaker.
02:00 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: you are going to get too swole
02:01 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Well, I'm still cutting to the point where I can start getting swole without also getting fat at the same time.
02:01 ben_vulpes > cutting
02:01 ben_vulpes IT BEGINS
02:02 BingoBoingo Well, how else to you handle alcoholic fatty liver than by... chasing the fat out of the liver?
02:02 mircea_popescu lol
02:12 * BingoBoingo has already lost a substantial amount of liver weight since the sobriety experiment began as measured by poking the upper right quadrant of my abdomen and contemplating the size of the organ I just pissed off.
02:15 mircea_popescu wouldja stop picking at scabs.
02:17 BingoBoingo You're right. Gotta leave the scabs alone so they can keep undercutting lazy union parasites on the labor market.
02:26 adlai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355221 << but not all?
02:26 assbot Logged on 28-12-2015 06:59:44; mircea_popescu: if they're worth a shit they'll find and if not, a well. most stuff developing in an uterus is meant to abort sooner or later anyway.
02:28 adlai from the not-so-lulz mines: https://chrispacia.wordpress.com/2015/12/23/lightning-network-skepticism/
02:28 assbot Lightning Network Skepticism | Escape Velocity ... ( http://bit.ly/1MCBDwZ )
02:29 adlai too bad you can't short vaporware that hasn't even boiled yet
02:30 adlai "> If the lightning network ends up sucking (let???s hope it doesn???t), then so will bitcoin as we will have no choice but to use it by that point. // Or finally raise the blocksize" who'da guessed, comments better than the article itself
02:31 adlai also who on earth beatifies their comment troll alts
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03:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48594 @ 0.00050752 = 24.6624 BTC [-] {3}
03:00 BingoBoingo !up ryan-c
03:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.0005062 = 8.3017 BTC [-]
03:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20406 @ 0.00050503 = 10.3056 BTC [-]
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03:21 adlai i'm sorry but this is totally on-topic. /r/btc has "bitcoin startup entrepeneur" flair
03:21 adlai context, /r/bitcoin introduced "bitcoin expert" flair at one point, and endless fests were shat over who gets it and who loses
03:26 fluffypony omg I'm going to apply for that
03:26 fluffypony right after I file to be recognised as a "thought leader"
03:30 adlai "they say a lot of things about whoring being the oldest profession, but somebody had to pay, so Finance was First." - eden shochat, local vc chump pumper. has a good talk i'd link but nobody else medaber ivrit...
03:30 adlai "i love regulation, because it causes fat, and then you slim it off and make bank" (rough translation parahrpase)
03:32 adlai "private blockchains are as mortal as CEOs" (also rough translaying)
03:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30470 @ 0.00050578 = 15.4111 BTC [+] {3}
03:44 BingoBoingo !up airgapped
03:47 adlai can't you let the man !up himself? some cultures consider it rude to help
03:48 adlai even the airgapped deserve some practice driving the cryptotron
03:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37322 @ 0.00051386 = 19.1783 BTC [+] {3}
03:54 adlai !gettrust STRML_
03:54 assbot STRML_ is not registered in WoT.
03:54 adlai !gettrust STRML
03:54 assbot STRML is not registered in WoT.
03:54 adlai ;;gettrust STRML
03:54 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user adlai to user STRML: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=adlai&dest=STRML | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=STRML | Rated since: never
03:56 adlai ;;rated STRML
03:56 gribble You rated user STRML on Mon Dec 28 03:56:10 2015, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: epsilon risked, nothing gained (nothing lost).
03:56 * adlai figures he's got to skin the fiat cat someday
03:57 adlai at least STRML's casino doesn't touch the stuff, not even give it out for free if you keep hitting
03:59 adlai for such a long lurker he does do a terrible job at it. wake up, sam! your elbow should be blue and purple by now, neh?
04:00 * adlai realizes maybe if he wants people to listen to him, he should speak meat or blockchain at them rather than #b-a :(
04:01 adlai "you are doing that too much. try again in 49 seconds." jesus christ marie it's a fucking IP address
04:02 adlai only on /r/btc: "Cobra edits Bitcoin.org about page to remove Sirius from owner's list"
04:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10526 @ 0.0005041 = 5.3062 BTC [-] {2}
04:02 adlai who are these people even smoking? did they sip the brown acid?
04:05 adlai at least the leddit captions that with a real cobra
04:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20590 @ 0.00050378 = 10.3728 BTC [-]
04:31 BingoBoingo So who's online that might be up for spotting me a proofreading?
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04:55 mats am here
04:56 BingoBoingo Ah adlai's on it, but I'll get you the preview too
05:01 adlai ah mats, welcome back to assland
05:05 mats been lurking
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05:25 punkman good day http://publicdomainreview.org/collections/19th-century-album-of-ottoman-fashion/
05:25 assbot 19th-Century Album of Ottoman Fashion | The Public Domain Review ... ( http://bit.ly/1JbOuv9 )
05:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00050198 = 4.568 BTC [-] {2}
05:31 punkman https://media.ccc.de/b/congress/2015
05:31 assbot C3TV -32C3: ... ( http://bit.ly/1JbOP10 )
05:41 adlai ahaha i love this guy, "it takes twelve years, circa six governments in the state of israel"
05:44 adlai i'd link him but he has the word "maidsafe" on his slides but says "failed" in hebrew,people might ge tthe wrong message
05:47 mats https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/a-year-of-taliban-gains-shows-that-we-havent-delivered-top-afghan-official-says/2015/12/27/172213e8-9cfb-11e5-9ad2-568d814bbf3b_story.html
05:47 assbot A year of Taliban gains shows that ‘we haven’t delivered,’ top Afghan official says - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1JbPMpP )
05:47 adlai he does fall for the fallacy of ascribing relevance to bubble inflation velocity in a post-fiat-escape-hatch market
05:48 punkman https://media.ccc.de/v/32c3-7352-towards_reasonably_trustworthy_x86_laptops << poor transcript follows: "I used to think we could sandbox ME with VT-d, unfortunately it turned out this doesn't work, which brought me to the sad conclusion that perhaps if we look at the Intel x86 platform, the war is lost. It truly is hopeless, even if ME didn't exist. It bothers me since I spent the last 5 years
05:48 assbot C3TV -Towards (reasonably) trustworthy x86 laptops ... ( http://bit.ly/1JbPPlE )
05:48 punkman on my Qubes project which turns out to be meaningless."
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05:48 punkman then she turns around, "oh we must change the game", "state considered harmful", "do you want my trusted stick?"
05:51 * adlai tl;dr's his guerrilla transcription: "would-be entrepeneurs, don't waste your time building companies. fuck shit up and send me the datapix, maybe i'll like them and buy some more"
05:51 punkman who's that?
05:53 adlai https://youtu.be/xTmZW9b0gxw?t=1h3m37s
05:53 assbot ‫כנס ביטקוין 2015 - חלק א'‬‎ - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Vm8i0t )
05:53 adlai i mean fuck, it's even got a leet checksum
05:53 * adlai rests his case, and weary brain. maybe tomorrow it'll piss again.
05:53 adlai !down adlai
05:57 punkman !s tlsnotary
05:57 assbot 5 results for 'tlsnotary' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=tlsnotary
06:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11785 @ 0.00050377 = 5.9369 BTC [+] {2}
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06:30 deedbot- [Qntra] The False Dilemma of XT Versus Blockstream - http://qntra.net/2015/12/the-false-dilemma-of-xt-versus-blockstream/
06:34 punkman not bad BB
06:34 BingoBoingo thank you punkman
06:42 punkman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WkLtJjONqs
06:42 assbot The Empire Files: Ralph Nader & Abby Martin on the Corporate Elections - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1YMm4K7 )
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07:10 BingoBoingo In other news, SUCK IT CALIFORNIA http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/emergency-declared-as-rain-keeps-falling-concern-turning-to-rising/article_592378ee-58c5-58bf-844f-7192031de91f.html
07:10 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1YMq8tP )
07:11 BingoBoingo "On Sunday afternoon, as rain continued to pummel much of the St. Louis region, 2015 officially became the wettest year on record. It came amid reports of widespread flooding, a plea by officials in West Alton to evacuate and the closure of Interstate 70 through the heart of St. Charles County. And with rain continuing Monday, river levels throughout the region are expected to hit near-record crests by New Year’s Eve."
07:11 BingoBoingo Actual flood season usually doesn't start until April, or at least March
07:12 BingoBoingo "Mississippi river levels at Alton are expected to reach nearly 39 feet by Thursday, only 3.7 feet lower than the 1993 record. In St. Louis, the water is expected to crest just shy of 45 feet, which would rank only behind the 49.6 feet recorded during the flood of ’93."
07:13 BingoBoingo "Down river, the Mississippi was forecast to reach or surpass the 1993 record of 49.74 at Chester, Ill., on Friday. That level would impact Menard Correctional Center and comes within inches of the top of the levee protecting St. Genevieve, Mo."
07:13 BingoBoingo All of this water and fucking California can have none of it.
07:15 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
07:15 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 426.2, vol: 6516.68988212 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 424.596, vol: 5478.27021 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 424.64, vol: 24132.59731712 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 420.0, vol: 0.118 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 425.5264, vol: 69354.93620000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 428.98, vol: 85.24159845 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 432.93549, vol: 22.00506 | Volume-weighted last average: 425.321439986
07:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31600 @ 0.00050829 = 16.062 BTC [+] {3}
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07:53 mircea_popescu for the record, ottoman fashion's pretty cool. they invented a lot of things above and beyond the ottoman
07:53 mircea_popescu (that very useful piece of furniture for anyone that keeps cocksuckers in the house)
07:53 mircea_popescu such as you know, fucking underwear.
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08:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00050695 = 9.0237 BTC [-] {2}
08:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11350 @ 0.00050841 = 5.7705 BTC [+] {2}
08:45 punkman !up junseth
08:45 junseth hey everyone. Just popping in to see what the scum of the earth is up to ;P
08:46 BingoBoingo Oh, a little bit of everything. Picking fights with XT and blockstream at the same time
08:46 junseth God the XT-ers
08:46 junseth At this point, that debate is like trying to tell a Christian evolution is real.
08:46 junseth "Why, don't you want our opinion?"
08:47 BingoBoingo also see http://qntra.net/2015/12/the-false-dilemma-of-xt-versus-blockstream/
08:47 assbot The False Dilemma of XT Versus Blockstream | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1OgP1ME )
08:49 junseth Haha, nice. Gotta say, the thing i like about bitcoin-assets is that whether or not I agree with ya'll, you keep shit weird.
08:50 junseth This is good I'm kin dof fed up with the people who didn't care about block size 5 months ago, and then Gavin told them to care, and now they care.
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08:51 BingoBoingo Seriously. But on the other hand can't let blockstream get an ego and think they can Gavin themselves.
08:51 junseth Sounds good to me. Just push Maxwell to bring us fungibility by next Christmas
08:52 junseth and I'll be squealing like one of Bitcoin's many beautiful transgendered women. :)
08:53 BingoBoingo lol
08:54 BingoBoingo But you definitely can see the positive effect all this drama is having on price, right?
08:55 junseth I don't care. For those of us who are long termers, a cheap Bitcoin is a good bitcoin
08:55 BingoBoingo Seriously
08:58 junseth All right, I'll be back in a few months to make sure that ya'll are still the weirdest enclave in the space. Just doing the prison rounds, wanted to take a count of the inmates. Time to pretend like real life is real life.
08:59 BingoBoingo Alright
09:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5965 @ 0.00050695 = 3.024 BTC [-]
09:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13685 @ 0.00050482 = 6.9085 BTC [-]
09:23 BingoBoingo http://www.fyrstikken.com/blog/kazonomics-poses-as-a-rich-and-successful-bitcoin-guru-but-is-in-fact-a-dirt-poor-notorious-criminal-who-just-cant-stay-away-from-trouble
09:23 assbot Kazonomics - Poses as a rich and successful Bitcoin-Guru but is in fact a dirt poor & notorious criminal who just can´t stay away from trouble. - Welcome to Fyrstikken ... ( http://bit.ly/1me9MON )
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09:57 mod6 ;;bc,stats
09:57 gribble Current Blocks: 390659 | Current Difficulty: 9.34486707963238E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 391103 | Next Difficulty In: 444 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 15 hours, 25 minutes, and 42 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
09:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41628 @ 0.00050403 = 20.9818 BTC [-] {2}
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10:22 deedbot- [Ossasepia] Euloran Cookbook V1.2 - http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/12/28/euloran-cookbook-v1-2/
10:26 BingoBoingo Oh hai, look where qntra made it again: https://archive.is/RT7C2 https://archive.is/dmNZC
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10:26 assbot Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jc6BkK )
10:26 assbot The False Dilemma of XT Versus Blockstream : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jc6DsC )
10:29 shinohai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355349 <<< This is what *should* be at top of page, instead of all the other "censorship!" nonsense.
10:29 assbot Logged on 28-12-2015 15:26:46; BingoBoingo: Oh hai, look where qntra made it again: https://archive.is/RT7C2 https://archive.is/dmNZC
10:29 BingoBoingo Butt in other lulz https://archive.is/WOHB9
10:29 assbot Roger Ver rallies around Coinbase. What could possibly go wrong this time around? I mean the last time Ver vouched for someone, new captains of industry were created right? : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1knNubr )
10:30 BingoBoingo shinohai: It's making it there
10:36 deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin to top $1,000 before Jul 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1234/bitcoin-to-top-1-000-before-jul-2016/#b21
10:48 BingoBoingo !up joshbuddy
10:48 shinohai https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3yiumz/the_false_dilemma_of_xt_versus_blockstream/cydulxc <<< kek
10:48 assbot BlockchainOfFools comments on The False Dilemma of XT Versus Blockstream ... ( http://bit.ly/1knQl4n )
10:49 ben_vulpes Softforks that explicitly create an incentive for their own revocation create an extraordinary moral hazard. << rather
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10:50 ben_vulpes rather nice qntra, BingoBoingo
10:50 BingoBoingo ty ben_vulpes
10:51 pete_dushenski shinohai: pff. b-a doesn't rubber stamp, we brand with iron directly on skin.
10:51 ben_vulpes foreskins!
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10:52 ben_vulpes ;;later tell asciilifeform how are the new minez?
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10:52 gribble The operation succeeded.
10:53 pete_dushenski http://www.cnbc.com/2015/12/28/only-one-global-currency-trounced-the-dollar-this-year.html
10:53 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1knRaKg )
10:54 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: way to break in past the reddit censors. wd.
10:54 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: I actually didn't submit it to reddit.
10:55 pete_dushenski oh ?
10:55 BingoBoingo This is "organic" social media manure accumulating
10:56 BingoBoingo I don't have a current reddit account "broken in" enough to chance on shitting qntra into reddit. Gotta farm some more "wheymens"
10:57 pete_dushenski that's what fiverr's for
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10:57 pete_dushenski which i'm sure qntra could find in its budget
10:58 BingoBoingo What budget? Everything goes into servers, coffee, or HODL.
11:00 pete_dushenski you could always reallocate some of those saved boozebezzlars
11:00 BingoBoingo Those go to coffee and HODL
11:02 pete_dushenski "Saudi Arabia, its finances hit by low oil prices, announced plans to shrink a record state budget deficit with spending cuts and a drive to raise revenues from sources other than oil. The government of the world's top oil exporter ran a deficit of 367 billion riyals ($97.9 billion) in 2015, the Council of Economic and Development Affairs said on Monday." << i wouldn't be surprised if we saw a regime change in t
11:02 pete_dushenski he next 12 months. this is going to be a rough ride for abdullah's stand-ins.
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11:03 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: ya, that's actually a smarter use of funds
11:04 BingoBoingo Also some of the saved boozelars have gone into the gas tank, because some days there isn't a storytime club meeting in reasonable walking distance.
11:05 shinohai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355365 <<< correct answer
11:05 assbot Logged on 28-12-2015 15:51:47; ben_vulpes: foreskins!
11:07 BingoBoingo lol throckmorton's sign https://archive.is/oD4nq
11:07 assbot throckmortonsign comments on The False Dilemma of XT Versus Blockstream ... ( http://bit.ly/1knTb9i )
11:08 BingoBoingo ;;google throckmorton's sign
11:08 gribble Throckmorton's sign | Radiology Reference Article | Radiopaedia.org: <http://radiopaedia.org/articles/throckmortons-sign-1>; John Thomas sign - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Thomas_sign>; Throckmorton's sign - Whonamedit - dictionary of medical eponyms: <http://www.whonamedit.com/synd.cfm/3050.html>
11:09 BingoBoingo !up tripleslash_t
11:09 pete_dushenski tried watching some jeremy piven show on netflix last night where he plays an american entrepreneur in london who starts his own department store circa 1909 and the only way i could stand it was with the volume off. the set design is the ~only~ redeeming quality of that show.
11:09 pete_dushenski anyways, watch at your own risk, but definitely not recommended viewing.
11:12 pete_dushenski though the few bits about jobs being hard to come by, and only the handsomest men and prettiest women being able to snag jobs, and the employers turning applicants away because they have dirty fingernails was kinda neat, if only because that's the way the world works outside of the narrow historical confines of "we print the bezzlars"-istan.
11:14 pete_dushenski mr. selfridge << the show in question
11:15 pete_dushenski and... apparently the show is 3 years old and already on its fourth season. fancy that.
11:23 pete_dushenski http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2015/12/climate_schlock.html << apt title
11:23 assbot Climate Schlock, David Henderson | EconLog | Library of Economics and Liberty ... ( http://bit.ly/22uPfGg )
11:24 punkman pete_dushenski: the set design is the ~only~ redeeming quality of that show. << isn't that why they call them costume dramas
11:24 pete_dushenski but then where's the drama ?!!1
11:24 punkman maybe piven ate it
11:25 pete_dushenski or he gave it away to johnny from entourage
11:26 punkman here's a pick for you http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2603596/
11:26 assbot The Wrong Mans (TV Series 2013– ) - IMDb ... ( http://bit.ly/22uPq4c )
11:26 mod6 pete_dushenski: hey, got your msg. thanks for updating your blog. much appreciated.
11:32 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
11:33 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 422.35, vol: 6479.61616555 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 423.499, vol: 6114.4076 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 423.22, vol: 22179.5503971 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 420.0, vol: 0.118 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 424.266579, vol: 67575.50010000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 428.90974, vol: 107.89201068 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 430.454101889, vol: 27.32749261 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
11:33 BingoBoingo ;;more
11:33 gribble 423.8796412
11:42 mod6 http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-December/000186.html << re: footnote [2]; jurov, maybe this was the issue I ran into -- i'll have to try this.
11:42 assbot [BTC-dev] Taming the mempool ... ( http://bit.ly/1NvyaEi )
11:42 mod6 Thanks again for posting your report & corresponding patch. Great work.
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11:58 pete_dushenski punkman: the fat one looks awfully familiar but i can't place him.
11:58 pete_dushenski mod6: np :)
12:09 pete_dushenski !up ascii_butugychag
12:11 pete_dushenski bbl
12:16 ascii_butugychag http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355366 << heavy
12:16 assbot Logged on 28-12-2015 15:52:00; ben_vulpes: ;;later tell asciilifeform how are the new minez?
12:16 ascii_butugychag bbl.
12:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00050384 = 2.1413 BTC [-]
12:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13050 @ 0.00050343 = 6.5698 BTC [-] {2}
12:26 mircea_popescu assbot: A year of Taliban gains shows that ‘we haven’t delivered,’ top Afghan official says << loller.
12:27 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355290 << i broadly agree. laptops have no future ; thanks god for that.
12:27 assbot Logged on 28-12-2015 10:48:06; punkman: on my Qubes project which turns out to be meaningless."
12:27 * mircea_popescu never liked the shits.
12:38 mircea_popescu http://qntra.net/2015/12/the-false-dilemma-of-xt-versus-blockstream/ << check out BingoBoingo! getting quite adept at splitting teh narrative huh ?
12:38 assbot The False Dilemma of XT Versus Blockstream | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1OgP1ME )
12:41 mircea_popescu !gettrust junseth
12:41 assbot junseth is not registered in WoT.
12:43 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355331 << no, actually : the whole charade of muppets, with that despicable bfl shill Luke-Jr front and center, was derping ON AND ON about how gotta keep the blockchain small back when MPEx:S.DICE was the largest economic activity in the whole currency.
12:43 assbot Logged on 28-12-2015 13:50:37; junseth: This is good I'm kin dof fed up with the people who didn't care about block size 5 months ago, and then Gavin told them to care, and now they care.
12:44 mircea_popescu but hey, times achanged.
12:44 mircea_popescu and somehow nobody's supposed to remember 2013 because reasons.
12:45 mircea_popescu somehow "hardforking the blockchain to accomodate dust transactions" wasn't a concern, back before hussein bahamas climbed atop mit and started throwing meatballs and chicken nuggets at the rotinculo chorus.
12:47 mircea_popescu https://archive.is/hAXeL << ahaha what the shit is this.
12:47 assbot Kazonomics - Poses as a rich and successful Bitcoin-Guru but is in fact a dirt poor & notorious criminal who just can´t stay away from trouble. - Welcome to Fyrstikken ... ( http://bit.ly/1mLkdcD )
12:58 mircea_popescu "These are all public records and there are tons more if you want to dig deeper into the criminal life of Kaseem Sarad Simpson, AKA @Kazonomics on twitter" eh srsly, dude's can't drive and had a falling out with some weisz chick.
12:58 mircea_popescu hardly a criminal mastermind or anything.
13:00 mircea_popescu http://www.fyrstikken.com/uploads/6/6/1/3/66137739/9262349_orig.png << there's a DERP fee.
13:00 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1mLmlBd )
13:00 mircea_popescu fancy that. immensely apt.
13:04 mircea_popescu "I'm Roger Ver, long-time Roger Ver advocate and investor. Today, I'm at the Roger Ver world headquarters in Saint Kitts and Nevis. I had a nice chat with Roger Ver CEO, Roger Ver, about their current situation. He showed me multiple bank statements, as well as letters from banks, lawyers and Roger Ver. I'm sure that all the current Roger Ver problems at Roger Ver are being caused by the traditional banking system, not
13:04 mircea_popescu because of a lack of liquidity at Roger Ver. The traditional banking partners that Roger Ver needs to work with are not able to keep up with the demands of the growing Roger Ver economy. The dozens of people that make up the Roger Ver team are hard at work establishing additional banking partners, that eventually will make dealing with Roger Ver easier for all their customers around the world. For now, I hope that eve
13:04 mircea_popescu ryone will continue working on Roger Ver projects that will help make the world a better place."
13:04 mircea_popescu lol butts delivered.
13:09 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355361 << quite. all this verbiage about how "oh lalala, if miners stop enforcing X fork they will be excluded" fails to account for the fact that unlike the various PRBs, TRB does NOT actually implement any of the soft forks. so no, they won't be "excluded". nobody will notice they stopped.
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13:09 assbot Logged on 28-12-2015 15:49:52; ben_vulpes: Softforks that explicitly create an incentive for their own revocation create an extraordinary moral hazard. << rather
13:10 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355375 << speaking of which, BingoBoingo do you want a fiverr account with whatever credit on it ?
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13:10 assbot Logged on 28-12-2015 15:57:30; pete_dushenski: that's what fiverr's for
13:11 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355381 << there's a huge difference between fully financed deficit (such as sae runs) and fully uncovered deficit, such as the us (or argentina) run.
13:11 assbot Logged on 28-12-2015 16:02:02; pete_dushenski: he next 12 months. this is going to be a rough ride for abdullah's stand-ins.
13:11 mircea_popescu the saudis have a shitton of cash to throw around before they need to notice the hole.
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13:33 mircea_popescu "Bitcoin-related code written by developers reached 7,000 in December, up from 1,000 bitcoin codes in mid-2013. The number of PayPal-related codes is below 3,000 (based on Github depository references)."
13:33 mircea_popescu these people are fducking retarded already
13:41 mats http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2015/12/28/us-voter-database-leak/
13:41 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1ZxA7W5 )
13:43 mats >has uncovered a database sitting on the Web containing various pieces of personal information related to 191 million American citizens registered to vote... [the data] includes names, home addresses, phone numbers, dates of birth, party affiliations, and logs of whether or not they had voted in primary or general elections.
13:43 mats huhuhu
13:44 mats in other news, https://49.media.tumblr.com/a84cd0541073dad3810d2d0f0f6327a7/tumblr_nzoibvdfMJ1qg39ewo1_500.gif
13:44 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1ZxAsbk )
13:54 mats punkman: did you read her paper?
13:55 mats or didja assume 'trusted stick' == 'trusted platform module'?
13:56 punkman I read
13:57 mats what problem(s) do you see with this scheme?
13:58 * mats is on pg15
13:59 punkman mats, do you think persistence is the problem?
13:59 punkman or that we can't even trust own mother
13:59 mats no
14:01 mats i can however appreciate some facets of her thing, like being able to trivially inspect device fw
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14:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16513 @ 0.00050431 = 8.3277 BTC [+] {3}
14:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 123750 @ 0.00050174 = 62.0903 BTC [-] {6}
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14:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42100 @ 0.00050611 = 21.3072 BTC [+] {3}
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15:59 mats mircea_popescu: meaning of sae?
16:06 mircea_popescu saudis.
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16:31 ben_vulpes the number of related codes?!
16:31 ben_vulpes in what world
16:31 ben_vulpes i don't
16:32 ben_vulpes understand
16:32 ben_vulpes how the world works
16:36 mats ben_vulpes: context?
16:37 mats https://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/3waa8x/im_bill_pollock_no_starch_press_founder_im_here
16:37 assbot I'm Bill Pollock, No Starch Press founder. I'm here with some of our authors. Ask us anything! : netsec ... ( http://bit.ly/1NSWCxc )
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16:55 mats http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-02-2014#481120 << you referring to https://www.iacr.org/archive/crypto2001/21390001.pdf ?
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16:55 assbot Logged on 05-02-2014 03:50:12; asciilifeform: there is already a hard impossibility proof of turing-complete computation in a homomorphic turd.
16:55 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NSYyG1 )
16:57 mats ben_vulpes: oops. i scrolled up.
17:00 pete_dushenski !up ascii_butugychag
17:01 ascii_butugychag http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355482 << aha
17:01 assbot Logged on 28-12-2015 21:55:43; mats: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-02-2014#481120 << you referring to https://www.iacr.org/archive/crypto2001/21390001.pdf ?
17:02 mats k just checking
17:02 ascii_butugychag and lulzily, that's my new job...
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17:02 ascii_butugychag i shit thee not
17:05 mats yeah, you mentioned it last month
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17:23 punkman http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355490 << you mean homomorphic turds?
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17:23 assbot Logged on 28-12-2015 22:02:19; ascii_butugychag: and lulzily, that's my new job...
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17:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32400 @ 0.00050264 = 16.2855 BTC [+] {4}
18:03 mats http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=intel-trace-hub-for-linux p interesting, oughta materialize in the next year (still R&D afaik)
18:03 assbot Intel Trace Hub Support Coming To Linux - Phoronix ... ( http://bit.ly/1OV2LJ9 )
18:04 mats can sync with software logging even
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18:05 shinohai !rate ben_vulpes 1 Bash necromancer of trb things. http://cascadianhacker.com
18:05 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/d96104fc0ebce28f
18:05 assbot missives from the post-megastate frontier ... ( http://bit.ly/1OV32Mq )
18:06 shinohai !v assbot:shinohai.rate.ben_vulpes.1:4bb772d30b432b48cbaf24825be8c37c7c14e204d0b2afb47af4ae86edd1b4a9
18:06 assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for ben_vulpes with note: Bash necromancer of trb things. http://cascadianhacker.com
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18:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52950 @ 0.00050694 = 26.8425 BTC [+] {2}
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18:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20618 @ 0.00050282 = 10.3671 BTC [-]
18:45 BingoBoingo http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355447 << Nope, don't have one without credit either
18:45 assbot Logged on 28-12-2015 18:10:12; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355375 << speaking of which, BingoBoingo do you want a fiverr account with whatever credit on it ?
18:47 BingoBoingo Substantial props go to adlai and mats for the proofreading help
18:50 BingoBoingo Honestly I wouldn't know what to do with a fiverr account
18:51 punkman all kinds of amusing things
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19:00 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355493 << aha.
19:00 assbot Logged on 28-12-2015 22:23:53; punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355490 << you mean homomorphic turds?
19:01 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355468 << what was this ?
19:01 assbot Logged on 28-12-2015 19:01:29; mats: i can however appreciate some facets of her thing, like being able to trivially inspect device fw
19:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35500 @ 0.00050682 = 17.9921 BTC [+] {3}
19:02 punkman asciilifeform: I posted the video and this should be the paper https://github.com/rootkovska/state_harmful/blob/master/state_harmful.md
19:02 assbot state_harmful/state_harmful.md at master · rootkovska/state_harmful · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1Tn9f7r )
19:03 asciilifeform 'The main principle introduced below is the requirement for the laptop hardware to be stateless, i.e. lacking any persistent storage. This includes it having no firmware-carrying flash memory chips. All the state is to be kept on an external, trusted device. This trusted device is envisioned to be of a small USB stick or SD card form factor.' << batshit lunacy on x86
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19:03 asciilifeform can't initialize the dram controller, much less usb etc. without a proprietary turd
19:04 asciilifeform in firmware
19:04 asciilifeform (loads in cache-as-ram mode on intel/amd)
19:04 asciilifeform and i ain't watching video.
19:04 mats https://lwn.net/Articles/669110
19:04 assbot Rutkowska: State considered harmful - A proposal for a stateless laptop [LWN.net] ... ( http://bit.ly/1Tn9lft )
19:04 mats pdf enclosed
19:05 mats oh, didn't see punkman's link
19:05 mats much better.
19:05 asciilifeform l0l external jack for spi eeprom
19:05 asciilifeform this is a mega-invention ?
19:05 asciilifeform i have this right here on this desk.
19:07 asciilifeform so the basic lie-by-implication baked into this paper, is that the firmware that ships with the box is 'trusted'
19:07 asciilifeform unless reflashed
19:07 asciilifeform which is a crock of shit
19:08 asciilifeform or the sophomoric reduction of attack vectors enabled by intel ME to 'inject malware'
19:09 asciilifeform (how about good ol' kleptography ? cp planting ? etc. i can think of 101 other items which have nothing to do with 'malware')
19:10 asciilifeform 'We thus see that, while we cannot fully eliminate the problem of subversion of the host OS security by potentially malicious processor, the construction of the stateless laptop allows us to force the adversary into a very dangerous territory, requiring them to take high risk and also making the attack very complex.' << mno.
19:13 asciilifeform 'Admittedly such an approach would not be able to detect sophisticated attacks which replace the original laptop board with identically looking one ... ' << again, this odd presumption that the original ~needs~ to be surreptitiously replaced
19:13 asciilifeform what part of pwned-at-the-factory is unclear ?
19:14 * asciilifeform can't be bothered to read any more of the claptrap
19:17 asciilifeform this is not even turd-polishing. it is turd-washing
19:17 asciilifeform with the specific chumpatronic purpose of distracting from the nature of the turd thereby.
19:21 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355498 << in-band debugging sucks
19:21 assbot Logged on 28-12-2015 23:04:54; mats: can sync with software logging even
19:21 asciilifeform (if there is ANY POSSIBLE means for the debuggee to sense the fact of debugging - in band.)
19:23 asciilifeform ;;later tell jurov what version of gpg is used in turdatron? kakobrekla's chokes on my updated key, but turdatron - happily eats
19:23 gribble The operation succeeded.
19:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00050282 = 4.2237 BTC [-]
19:28 punkman asciilifeform can't be bothered to read any more of the claptrap << aww you missed the part where the stick does wifi and tor
19:28 asciilifeform ugh
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19:43 BingoBoingo related https://encyclopediadramatica.se/ETD
19:43 assbot eTD - Encyclopedia Dramatica ... ( http://bit.ly/1NT8fUT )
19:55 thestringpuller Watching Shark Tank - D00ds want to make a security company to compete with lastpass. Mark Cuban asks them "Do you have a crypto background?" "Uh we're not techies" "I'm out".
19:57 BingoBoingo Could still make a security company if they had some welding background
20:06 BingoBoingo http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/12/28/haverhill-hoax-suspects-court-baby-thrown-bridge-kristine-holly-fowler/?cid=facebook_WBZ_|_CBS_Boston
20:06 assbot Baby Off Bridge Hoax Cost Haverhill $50K « CBS Boston ... ( http://bit.ly/1NT9rHV )
20:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24050 @ 0.0005049 = 12.1428 BTC [+]
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20:29 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-12-2015#1355510 << the one thing i did was, get a buncha students put 100s of printed posters of http://trilema.com/2013/the-gentlemen-prefer-coeds-club/ in a few dozen campuses throughout the us and canada.
20:29 assbot Logged on 28-12-2015 23:51:07; punkman: all kinds of amusing things
20:29 assbot The Gentlemen Prefer CoEds Club on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1JxR3lb )
20:29 mircea_popescu as per nubbins rules of engagement, this has resulted in no collegiate sluts doing their job.
20:30 mircea_popescu STRICTLY BECAUSE of the cheap quality of the printing, mind you.
20:30 mircea_popescu not because they suck at doing what they're naturally supposed to do.
20:31 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-12-2015#1355518 <<< this didn't even work on a 286.
20:31 assbot Logged on 29-12-2015 00:03:37; asciilifeform: 'The main principle introduced below is the requirement for the laptop hardware to be stateless, i.e. lacking any persistent storage. This includes it having no firmware-carrying flash memory chips. All the state is to be kept on an external, trusted device. This trusted device is envisioned to be of a small USB stick or SD card form factor.' << batshit lunacy on x86
20:38 asciilifeform my 386 had no flashables. but that wasn't the point.
20:38 BingoBoingo 3 points, 36 comments https://archive.is/ZL7zt
20:38 assbot The False Dilemma of XT Versus Blockstream : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1UeHk9X )
20:40 mircea_popescu certainly becoming a force.
20:42 * BingoBoingo just created exuse to drop latest archive snapshot of derp here, Reddit never changes
20:43 thestringpuller BingoBoingo: just like war.
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21:11 ben_vulpes https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2015/12/28/federal-judge-drinking-tea-shopping-at-a-gardening-store-is-probable-cause-for-a-swat-raid-on-your-home/
21:11 assbot Federal judge: Drinking tea, shopping at a gardening store is probable cause for a SWAT raid on your home - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1mfhiJ8 )
21:16 mircea_popescu "He was told to lie on the floor. " <<< how about "Fuck you" ?
21:16 mircea_popescu what is this bullshit.
21:19 BingoBoingo SWAT officers tend to "accidentally" discharge their weapons with a high rate of frequency. It's a military problem without easy answers if you get to that point.
21:21 mircea_popescu yeah, i suppose by the time there's armed dudes at your door liberal supression fire's the only way to go.
21:23 BingoBoingo Once they're inside prolly just gotta be polite enough to hopefully not get accidentallied in order to try to fuck them back later.
21:26 mircea_popescu plenty cheeky, the bastards.
21:28 ben_vulpes if you're not Living In Fear (tm) you're not Living American (tm)!
21:29 mircea_popescu heh
21:29 mircea_popescu ever more soviet, soviet.
21:30 ben_vulpes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1SluSC5JtE
21:30 assbot We Hates It Forever - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1mfjlgu )
21:30 BingoBoingo "As far as what I see, according to the candidates that are out there now, Republicans and Democrats, I think he’s head and shoulders right now above the rest. I don’t agree with everything he says, he speaks a little more, actually he speaks a little more, a lot more radically than I talk. And I think that’s a positive and negative." -David Duke
21:30 ben_vulpes https://youtu.be/YMJ8JGfuCAw?t=38
21:30 assbot I hate sunshine - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1mfjkZS )
21:36 mircea_popescu https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3yklrd/accidentally_sent_btc_to_bitmixer_donation/ << lmao. "possibility of scam" = i sent bitcoin to donation address why am i not getting it back ?!?!?!
21:36 assbot Accidentally sent BTC to Bitmixer donation address but no refund : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1mfjW1N )
21:37 thestringpuller https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ygpom/its_time_to_decentralize_bitcoin_development/cydk5q1 << Luke-Jr states "This is not consensus-compatible with the Bitcoin network."
21:37 thestringpuller !gettrust Luke-Jr
21:37 assbot Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user Luke-Jr: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -5 via 4 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=thestringpuller&to=Luke-Jr | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/Luke-Jr/
21:37 thestringpuller well that's settled.
21:37 mircea_popescu http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/27/business/dealbook/the-unsung-tax-agent-who-put-a-face-on-the-silk-road.html?_r=0 <<< ahaha check it out, the cover-up story is shaping up! it wasn't the usg using the holes in tor to try and steal some bitcoin, after which their agents stole most of it from them in turn. oh, no! it's a heroic guy that bla bla bla, just like in thye old soviet movies!
21:37 assbot Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1mfk94Z )
21:37 ben_vulpes lol who are future_prophecy and veqtrus
21:37 mircea_popescu how fucktarded are these people ?
21:38 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=26-12-2015#1353979
21:38 assbot Logged on 26-12-2015 15:26:10; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-12-2015#1353876 << so cheap is the octopus ink, but so laughably transparent - this idiocy is supposed to make folks forget about the tor 0day ?
21:38 mircea_popescu aha
21:38 mircea_popescu new article tho, note the 27th
21:38 mircea_popescu uh.
21:38 mircea_popescu what the fuck happened here.
21:39 asciilifeform good q
21:39 mircea_popescu "By NATHANIEL POPPERDEC. 25, 2015"
21:39 mircea_popescu but the url takes a 27 not a 25.
21:39 asciilifeform does archive.is diff ?
21:40 thestringpuller ben_vulpes: they must lurk in the channel.
21:41 ben_vulpes come out come out wherever you are
21:41 asciilifeform 'Last week, U.S. District Court Judge John W. Lungstrum dismissed every one of the Hartes’s claims. Harte found that sending a SWAT team into a home first thing in the morning based on no more than a positive field test and spotting a suspect at a gardening store was not a violation of the Fourth Amendment. He found that the police had probable cause for the search, and that the way the search was conducted did not constitut
21:41 asciilifeform e excessive force. He found that the Hartes had not been defamed by the raid or by the publicity surrounding it. He also ruled that the police were under no obligation to know that drug testing field kits are inaccurate, nor were they obligated to wait for the more accurate lab tests before conducting the SWAT raid. The only way they’d have a claim would be if they could show that the police lied about the results, deliberat
21:41 asciilifeform ely manipulated the tests or showed a reckless disregard for the truth — and he ruled that the Hartes had failed to do so.' << lulz
21:42 BingoBoingo !v assbot:BingoBoingo.rate.Luke-Jr.-2:89749f404fa5d809cb02d55e0b7bc157a303274ee9730cfc23f6122edb3b8858
21:42 assbot Successfully updated the rating for Luke-Jr from -1 to -2 with note: Shilled for BFL scam, probably a secret Papist, why is he still around?
21:42 asciilifeform 'The Hartes are also a white, financially sound couple who both happened to have worked for the CIA.' << extra-lulz
21:48 BingoBoingo http://bangshift.com/bangshiftxl/inexperienced-undereducated-truck-driver-destroys-indiana-bridge-built-in-1880/
21:48 assbot BangShift.com Indiana Bridge ... ( http://bit.ly/1mflfOf )
21:49 BingoBoingo "Ms. Lambright was aware of the iron bridge stating she had driven on it several times in her personal vehicle and was also aware of the posted signage “no semis, weight limit of 6 tons”. When asked by Paoli Police why she continued through the bridge knowing the weight limit was only 6 tons she admitted to not knowing how many pounds that was."
21:49 BingoBoingo pictures of wreck are pretty lulzy
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22:04 mircea_popescu ^ poster child for "i just wanted to" and other jwzisms.
22:05 mircea_popescu why SHOULD she know what the fuck a truck costs. it moves when you turn the wheel right ?
22:05 asciilifeform iirc truckers traditionally know what the truck costs - they save pennies and dream of buying their own machine
22:05 asciilifeform instead of being peon
22:07 mircea_popescu what are you, from like the 80s ?
22:07 asciilifeform aha
22:08 mircea_popescu the only truck drivers not on meth are the ones too dumb to figure out how to buy it, currently.
22:09 * asciilifeform wonders if same goes for programmers
22:09 mircea_popescu they don't make enough.
22:10 asciilifeform in usa - about same as trucker
22:10 mircea_popescu hahahahaha
22:10 mircea_popescu no.
22:10 mircea_popescu average income of us based programmer is ~same as table waitress. $3 an hour + tips.
22:11 mircea_popescu which works out because the us is all about gender equality.
22:11 asciilifeform almost forgot what 'programmer' means to mircea_popescu
22:11 mircea_popescu suppose we ask the "programmer" himself ? eh ?
22:12 asciilifeform quasi-literate programming folk straight from school not infrequently get six figures (of modern-day inflated bezzlar, sure)
22:14 mircea_popescu ;;google "i dont no biari"
22:14 gribble It Was Like We Were Becoming the World "BIARI is not about ...: <http://watson.brown.edu/biari/news/explore/2014/ConnectionsandFlows>; Climate Change BIARI, Day Four + Development and Inequality ...: <http://www.globalconversation.org/2010/06/18/climate-change-biari-day-four-development-and-inequality-biari-day-eleven>; Human Security and Humanitarian Response - BIARI 2014 - (1 more message)
22:14 mircea_popescu pfff.
22:14 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/i-dont-no-biari-i-know-a-littel-java/ << actual piece of interest
22:14 assbot i dont no biari (i know a littel java.) on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1TnkmNH )
22:15 mod6 <+asciilifeform> in usa - about same as trucker << just heard a commercial; Dominoes is paying $75-$80k for over-the-road CDL drivers day and night routes.
22:17 deedbot- [Trilema] The Wordsmithy - http://trilema.com/2015/the-wordsmithy/
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22:39 mats http://log.b-a.link/?date=29-12-2015#1355571 << notice how judge is not mentioned at all
22:39 assbot Logged on 29-12-2015 02:11:58; ben_vulpes: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2015/12/28/federal-judge-drinking-tea-shopping-at-a-gardening-store-is-probable-cause-for-a-swat-raid-on-your-home/
22:39 mats that is -- he is not identified by name -- one John W. Lungstrum
22:40 mats if you wanna read trial court doc: http://dpaste.com/1JK434R
22:40 assbot dpaste: 1JK434R ... ( http://bit.ly/1TnlHnG )
22:40 mats Harte v. Board of Commissioners of County of Johnson County, Kansas http://dpaste.com/1Q4VSYS
22:41 assbot dpaste: 1Q4VSYS ... ( http://bit.ly/1TnlIbf )
22:41 mats i'd clearsign but unable to do so rn
22:42 mats >The requisite causal connection is satisfied if the defendant set in motion a series of events that the defendant knew or reasonably should have known would cause others to deprive the plaintiff of her constitutional rights.” Mink v. Knox, 613 F.3d 995, 1001 (10th Cir.2010) (quoting Snell v. Tunnell, 920 F.2d 673, 700 (10th Cir.1990)).
22:43 mats "you made me do it, fuck you"
22:47 mats whoops, skimmed too fast. ignore that.
22:57 mircea_popescu !up Alopex
23:00 mircea_popescu mats by this logic rebellions negro slaves weren't having any rights infringed.
23:00 mircea_popescu they should have fucking known giving lip to massah resultsi n beatings.
23:01 mircea_popescu rebellious*
23:01 mircea_popescu incidentally, it is EXACTLY the logic the SOPS were proferring cca 1815 on the topic.
23:01 mircea_popescu so in this sense - the courts are exactly unchanged.
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