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00:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00050572 = 10.4178 BTC [+] {2}
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02:21 BingoBoingo ;;later tell mircea_popescu toominimium threw a loller in your direction http://qntra.net/2015/08/concerns-for-the-toomim-brothers-mining/#comment-79924
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02:21 assbot Concerns for the Toomim Brothers Mining | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1XJ4je5 )
02:21 gribble The operation succeeded.
02:33 deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.30000000 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $600 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1216/bitcoin-to-top-600-before-jan-2016/#b72
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02:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33047 @ 0.00049357 = 16.311 BTC [-] {3}
02:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7086 @ 0.00048942 = 3.468 BTC [-]
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04:07 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: i'd have figured you'd have already seen that
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04:36 adlai ;;seen STRML
04:36 gribble STRML was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 44 weeks, 6 days, 14 hours, 20 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <STRML> I guess I live in the wrong city
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05:46 adlai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=31-08-2015#1257257 and so does he
05:46 assbot Logged on 31-08-2015 16:33:12; mats: mpoe sleeps
05:48 adlai mpex is like frequent batch auctions, but in
05:50 kakobrekla Goldman Scamch : Bitcoin was just the opening act, with the Blockchain ready to take center stage.
05:50 kakobrekla The note comes soon after the bank filed a patent for a securities settlement platform based on SETLcoin, a new cryptocurrency.
06:03 adlai ;;isup trading.engine
06:03 gribble trading.engine is down
06:04 * adlai rushes to patent provably fair batch auction randomization based on hash collisions
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08:06 deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $600 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1216/bitcoin-to-top-600-before-jan-2016/#b73
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09:14 mircea_popescu haha.
09:14 mircea_popescu center stage in the roadshow. anyway, they want war, they get war, let 'em explain to their wives the 2020s.
09:15 mircea_popescu "oh honey i don't understand what the world became" "that's because you dumb, motha. you made it."
09:23 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo done.
09:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 203758 @ 0.00049296 = 100.4445 BTC [+] {9}
09:34 adlai good morning
09:42 adlai mircea_popescu should sell insurance against qntrification
09:43 adlai other bitcoin "news sites" offer paid coverage, qntra lets you pay to be ignored
09:43 mircea_popescu mno.
09:43 adlai hey it's a monetization avenue! :D
09:43 adlai "we will not mention your failures anywhere other than monthly statements"
09:44 mircea_popescu mno.
09:44 trinque just like CNN eh?
09:46 adlai mok.
09:47 mircea_popescu does anyone have the line where i tell asciilifeform or someone that their love of lisp is misplaced, because a) c was just as great before the horde got involved and b) if lisp were to become fashionable it'd be cpp in short order ?
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09:50 trinque mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=05-11-2015#1317881 << I believe there are several instances of this.
09:50 assbot Logged on 05-11-2015 23:05:31; mircea_popescu: and once they become popular, they will BE the sea of lisp shit.
09:50 mircea_popescu good enugh tyvm!
09:50 trinque yw
09:57 mircea_popescu ok this will be a kickass article.
09:57 mircea_popescu and you can all thank goldman sachs for it.
10:09 shinohai deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/3NEH2ZA.txt
10:09 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NJt7n1 )
10:09 deedbot- Bad URL or network outage.
10:10 shinohai >.>
10:10 trinque odd.
10:11 shinohai deedbot doesn't like me T_T
10:11 trinque shinohai: that is not signed
10:12 shinohai shit wrong one
10:21 shinohai deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/384SYR0.txt
10:22 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1TA2FLg )
10:22 deedbot- rejected: 1
10:22 shinohai *sigh*
10:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34200 @ 0.00049162 = 16.8134 BTC [+] {2}
10:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22900 @ 0.00049374 = 11.3066 BTC [+] {2}
10:35 shinohai deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/0NMP5ZE.txt
10:35 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NJuUbx )
10:35 deedbot- rejected: 1
10:35 shinohai grrrr
10:36 trinque those are both bad sigs.
10:37 shinohai same key i use in here .. hmm
10:39 trinque verify them on your end
10:39 * adlai sees 3NEH2ZA as not even signed, and 0NMP5ZE as bad sig
10:40 adlai deedbot-fs eta not even Two Weeks yet
10:49 adlai !s meth-lsd
10:49 assbot 1 results for 'meth-lsd' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=meth-lsd
10:49 adlai mircea_popescu: there's that thread, too
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11:20 pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/2015/12/02/i-know-you-are-but-what-am-i/
11:20 assbot “I know you are but what am I?” | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1lyBPHM )
11:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16200 @ 0.00049518 = 8.0219 BTC [+] {2}
11:20 adlai heh, people love special numbers don't they
11:25 pete_dushenski "lower barriers to entry for massage parlors makes the black market for prostitution larger, but also less risky. This is due to illegal prostitution buyers and suppliers switching to the quasi-legal sector, as well as quasi-legal sex workers facing a reduced wage premium for high-risk behavior. Consequently, the incidence of gonorrhea and rape falls in the general population."
11:26 pete_dushenski via https://docs.google.com/a/g.ucla.edu/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=Zy51Y2xhLmVkdXxhbWFuZGEtbmd1eWVufGd4OjY2YjNjNzQ4NzEzMmEzNmY (amanda ngyyen's job market paper for her phd in economics)
11:26 assbot draft11.5.pdf ... ( http://bit.ly/1lyCDfR )
11:28 pete_dushenski basically, "lower barriers to entry for apple orchards make the black market for orange orchards larger, thus rape and stds are reduced"
11:30 adlai pete_dushenski: doesn't your "trader's delight" article boil down to ballas's "they are successful at feeling like a trader" ?
11:31 pete_dushenski how so ?
11:35 adlai "if you're a human trader, there's really no place like it"... it's all about how it makes you feel
11:35 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=26-06-2015#1178143 >>> loller.
11:35 assbot Logged on 26-06-2015 20:37:43; mircea_popescu: anyway this looks like it's going to be an epic b-a summer. phuctor delivered, eulora came, nodes are moving, apparently cardano as well,
11:37 pete_dushenski adlai: "MPEx, on the other hand, is a human-paced, even aristocratically-paced free market that leverages the latest encryption technology in a secure and intuitive-to-use manner that does away with HFT and eschews fiat"
11:38 pete_dushenski i guess the pace of trading is part of the 'feeling' but that alone is not what makes trading s.mpoe worthwhile.
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11:38 pete_dushenski bbias (crying to tend to)
11:39 pete_dushenski !up ascii_field
11:40 mircea_popescu there was at some point some derp in here wanting us to believe he's "a jouirnalist", not wanting to get in the wot and wanting to ask some dumbass questions about phuctor that i briefly entertained.
11:40 mircea_popescu anyone recall specifics ?
11:41 ascii_field was it the imbecile who wanted his key (never specified!) removed ?
11:41 mircea_popescu nono
11:41 mircea_popescu wanted to "maybe write an article"
11:41 ascii_field !s from:fromphuctor
11:41 assbot 47 results for 'from:fromphuctor' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from%3Afromphuctor
11:42 mircea_popescu it's remarkable how little mark this whole pile leaves in the record.
11:42 ascii_field i actually do not recall such a thing
11:42 ascii_field perhaps this was 'fan mail' sent to mircea_popescu privately ?
11:42 mircea_popescu uh
11:42 mircea_popescu im pretty certain it was in here.
11:43 trinque http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=03-06-2015#1152047 ?
11:43 assbot Logged on 03-06-2015 00:06:57; asciilifeform: alphonse23_: author of 'phuctor' speaking. you had questions ?
11:43 mircea_popescu no ?!
11:44 mircea_popescu nah this is just a user.
11:44 ascii_field aha no mention of journalisms
11:44 mircea_popescu no, the guy actually mentioend some fishrwap
11:44 mircea_popescu hm, maybe wirded ?
11:46 punkman https://github.com/CyberShadow/DFeed neat
11:46 assbot CyberShadow/DFeed · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1lbJ2hs )
11:47 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-12-2015#1335813 << this isn't entirely wrong, but it is also not correct: it would be a very different sea - more like a small puddle of molten plutonium. (dynamic langs with everything-viewable and everything-debuggable sort of capability don't congeal into the familiar unix-like morass, but nobody cancelled idiots and ~purely logical~ bugs)
11:47 assbot Logged on 03-12-2015 14:47:46; mircea_popescu: does anyone have the line where i tell asciilifeform or someone that their love of lisp is misplaced, because a) c was just as great before the horde got involved and b) if lisp were to become fashionable it'd be cpp in short order ?
11:48 mircea_popescu it wasn't obvious c will congeal into the now familiar morass either.
11:48 ascii_field actually it was pretty obvious to herr dijkstra
11:48 ascii_field quite early on, too.
11:49 mircea_popescu and i'm dijkstra now ?
11:49 mircea_popescu "obvious to X only" is the definition of nonobvious.
11:49 * ascii_field ain't dijkstra either
11:49 ascii_field but fella made a quite convincing case, and wrote it down
11:49 ascii_field where i could get to it..
11:51 ascii_field at any rate, i cannot possibly argue against the main idea here - that a horde of energetic, malignantly-stupid people can befunge literally ~anything~
11:54 ascii_field theodor dalrymple (british) had a piece describing a scene he witnessed as a medic in liberia, where enraged orcs sawed the legs off, and carefully too massive shits into, a rare and very costly concert piano
11:54 ascii_field *took
11:54 adlai also Those who are clever and industrious I appoint to the General Staff. Use can under certain circumstances be made of those who are stupid and lazy. The man who is
11:55 adlai clever and lazy qualifies for the highest leadership posts. He has the requisite nerves and the mental clarity for difficult decisions. But whoever is stupid and
11:55 ascii_field that this could happen, was not a defect of the piano.
11:55 adlai industrious must be got rid of, for he is too dangerous."
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11:55 ascii_field adlai: aha.
11:59 adlai someday you could study the comparative damage done by almost-lisps such as ruby
12:00 * adlai is not familiar enough with clojure to dismiss it as pseudo
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12:00 adlai study probably boils down to "rails lol"
12:01 punkman how is ruby almost-lisp?
12:02 punkman granted, I've not read much ruby
12:03 adlai it doesn't rank well on the brick test, but gets almost perfect marks in pg's http://paulgraham.com/diff.html
12:03 assbot What Made Lisp Different ... ( http://bit.ly/1lbMSHb )
12:04 * adlai chalks this up to the comparative truthiness of the two test
12:04 deedbot- [Trilema] B,TMSR~ and fundamental justice reform. - http://trilema.com/2015/btmsr-and-fundamental-justice-reform/
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12:10 pete_dushenski https://images.washingtonpost.com/?url=https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/files/2015/11/relationship_chart-1.gif&op=noop << so THAT'S what 'thrice removed' means
12:10 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1lbOrFj )
12:16 pete_dushenski http://fooledbyrandomness.com/minority.pdf << "If you are going to start a movement, make it intolerant of nonsense" ~herr taleb
12:26 punkman "B,TMSR~ and fundamental justice reform." << notbad
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12:46 adlai we have naptime again... gentlemen, place your bets!
12:51 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
12:51 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-12-2015#1335910 << can haz ticketz to guillotinings in the public square yet ??
12:51 assbot Logged on 03-12-2015 17:04:38; deedbot-: [Trilema] B,TMSR~ and fundamental justice reform. - http://trilema.com/2015/btmsr-and-fundamental-justice-reform/
12:53 ascii_field ;;later tell mircea_popescu your link in footnote iii is broken
12:53 gribble The operation succeeded.
12:58 * mircea_popescu looks
12:58 mircea_popescu define broken ?
12:59 mircea_popescu <a href="http://trilema.com/2010/la-munca-cu-negrii/#selection-41.522-41.842">a faint disdain</a>
13:01 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski taleb will miss out on the only thing he didn'twant to miss out on this life.
13:01 mircea_popescu such is the sad curse.
13:09 ascii_field mircea_popescu: it pointed to a 'preview' (wordpressism) of the article
13:09 mircea_popescu odd.
13:10 ascii_field http://trilema.com/?p=64110&preview=true#selection-63.234-63.450
13:10 assbot B,TMSR~ and fundamental justice reform. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1PAAcGI )
13:11 mircea_popescu well whatever it was seems to have gone away o.O
13:11 ascii_field l0l ok
13:12 ascii_field 'I came out of college with a faint disdain for both the teachers and the principle of the whole thing. This is natural. I also came out of college not owing anyone one red cent.' << funnily enough, same.
13:12 ascii_field (prolly like many other folks here)
13:20 BingoBoingo https://archive.is/6pnkA << Fatshaming bad, prayershaming good
13:20 assbot Prayer-shaming isn’t about attacking prayer. It’s about calling out empty platitudes. ... ( http://bit.ly/1PACSUG )
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13:22 mircea_popescu ahahahaha
13:22 mircea_popescu look who's talkign about empty platitudes! the united libertards party!
13:23 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
13:23 BingoBoingo seriously
13:24 ascii_field am i smoking crack or does mthreat's search 'from:' command ignore slash-me action lines ?
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13:24 BingoBoingo It Hippo-crazy
13:24 BingoBoingo ascii_field: Prolly both
13:24 ascii_field i think it accounts for a good measure of 'mysteriously not found' cases
13:24 BingoBoingo If you have to ask if you are smoking crack, you prolly are.
13:24 ascii_field ;;later tell mthreat http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-12-2015#1335940
13:24 assbot Logged on 03-12-2015 18:24:03; ascii_field: am i smoking crack or does mthreat's search 'from:' command ignore slash-me action lines ?
13:24 gribble The operation succeeded.
13:25 ben_vulpes * <2015-12-03 Thu> standup
13:25 ben_vulpes CLOCK: [2015-12-03 Thu 10:08]--[2015-12-03 Thu 10:14] => 0:06
13:25 ben_vulpes ** jordan
13:25 ben_vulpes *** CS-754/5: plan information dynamism, get care dynamisn
13:25 ben_vulpes *** wrapping up 755
13:25 ben_vulpes *** need code review on 755
13:25 ben_vulpes *** will be jumping on the last ticket for this release: 753
13:25 ascii_field wawawat
13:25 ben_vulpes ** ryan
13:25 ben_vulpes *** paired with Veen on saved filters, most UI elements are working
13:25 ben_vulpes *** pushing BR to staging
13:25 ben_vulpes ** Q
13:25 ben_vulpes *** all apollo all day
13:25 ascii_field ben_vulpes: i think you're leaking bitz
13:25 ben_vulpes *** figured out what a fiscal year meant
13:25 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: You're leaking
13:25 ben_vulpes *** knocked out a bunch of math
13:25 ben_vulpes *** set our second report up to import spreadsheets
13:25 ben_vulpes *** "going to take values from spreadsheets and put them into node"
13:25 ben_vulpes ** Matthew
13:25 ben_vulpes *** WMG
13:25 ben_vulpes **** camera list view yesterday
13:25 ben_vulpes **** camera list view today
13:25 ben_vulpes ** Amelia
13:25 ben_vulpes *** yesterday
13:25 ben_vulpes **** watchme grow meeting and comms
13:25 * ascii_field closes intake valve in mas
13:25 ascii_field k
13:26 ben_vulpes **** most of the afternoon going through the applicants and sending emails
13:26 ben_vulpes *** today
13:26 ben_vulpes **** continue sending emails
13:26 ben_vulpes shit.
13:26 ben_vulpes i'm leaking brains
13:26 ben_vulpes from this bullet hole in my head
13:26 thestringpuller when emacs goes wrong
13:27 ascii_field bonus l0lpo1nt5 if this was a stego'd privkey
13:28 ben_vulpes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-12-2015#1335903 << super pseudo.
13:28 assbot Logged on 03-12-2015 17:00:13; *: adlai is not familiar enough with clojure to dismiss it as pseudo
13:28 thestringpuller ascii_field: I got to page 5 today of the dragon book
13:29 thestringpuller #progress
13:29 ben_vulpes thing about non-cl lisp-like things is that just the few tools that clojure provides are enough for me to get my hands around the neck of, say, the whole wwwstack
13:29 ben_vulpes but yeah the asbestos fibers on the insides of the gloves get into your blood and kill you
13:30 mircea_popescu jurov
13:31 ascii_field ben_vulpes: i still get flamez on my circa-2009 turd on subj (and the later sequel)
13:31 ascii_field ben_vulpes: for a while, it was in top handful of 'google' hits for 'clojure'
13:31 * ben_vulpes not surprised
13:32 ascii_field if not for this, i'd long ago have forgotten the thing even exists
13:32 ben_vulpes entirely unmentionable outside of the uranium mines.
13:33 ascii_field idk, i originally ran across it at a meeting of a hobbyist society devoted to the subject
13:33 ascii_field which i showed up to on a lark
13:33 ascii_field (it was held in the same dilapidated church as a 'hack space' thing i attended sporadically in those days)
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13:52 ben_vulpes "the subject" << derplisps?
14:06 danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-12-2015#1335935 << Matthew 6:5 "And when you pray, you shall not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward. 6 But you, when you pray, go into your room, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Father who is in the secret place; and your F
14:06 assbot Logged on 03-12-2015 18:20:20; assbot: Prayer-shaming isn’t about attacking prayer. It’s about calling out empty platitudes. ... ( http://bit.ly/1PACSUG )
14:09 BingoBoingo danielpbarron: This is how it starts. Shame the people praying in public. Later they shame you for praying at all.
14:09 danielpbarron you wouldn't know if i've been praying, because when I do it, I do it secretly
14:10 BingoBoingo danielpbarron: What about Meta-NSA?
14:10 BingoBoingo Or roving bands of home invading SJWs
14:10 thestringpuller BingoBoingo that's a great movie idea.
14:10 thestringpuller NSA wiretapping prayers.
14:11 danielpbarron the world hates The Bible and its believers. There is nothing new here.
14:14 thestringpuller From Rome to US, nothing changes.
14:14 thestringpuller Except US has perverted christianity pretty hardcore. (Funny given the puritans and all)
14:14 BingoBoingo So did later Romans
14:15 danielpbarron there are none that do good. Not a single person.
14:17 thestringpuller The puritans were pretty radical as it is. I remember reading the crucible and thinking, "religious politics huh?"
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14:36 adlai ben_vulpes: nice flood protection!
14:41 ben_vulpes adlai: thanks
14:50 thestringpuller ben_vulpes: mah nigga.
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15:09 deedbot- [Qntra] LA Proposal Attacks Prositution And Marital Harmony At Same Time - http://qntra.net/2015/12/la-proposal-attacks-prositution-and-marital-harmony-at-same-time/
15:10 BingoBoingo http://chronicle.su/2015/11/24/new-subway-spokesperson-touts-strong-track-record-of-adult-only-pornography/
15:10 assbot New Subway spokesperson touts strong track record of adult-only pornography | The Internet Chronicle ... ( http://bit.ly/1HIUxa0 )
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15:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31986 @ 0.00048916 = 15.6463 BTC [-] {2}
15:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42500 @ 0.00049029 = 20.8373 BTC [+]
15:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31407 @ 0.00048748 = 15.3103 BTC [-] {3}
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16:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33800 @ 0.00049519 = 16.7374 BTC [+] {2}
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16:47 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
16:48 ascii_field http://cyphyworks.com << lulzy flying machine maker, funded by - according to in-q-tel's 2014 tax report - by in-q-tel; the latter - a wholly cia-owned trust.
16:48 assbot CyPhy Works | Revolutionary Robots ... ( http://bit.ly/1PBqmnX )
16:48 ascii_field and i could've sworn that we did 'fiber-tethered drone' idea ~right here~ in '13 ?
16:51 ben_vulpes tether always makes for fun dynamic control problem
16:52 ascii_field ben_vulpes: according to their ad, the tether plays out ~from the bot~ rather than the remote
16:52 ascii_field and is not under tension.
16:52 ben_vulpes it's under tension if only from gravity what is this
16:52 ascii_field motor, presumably
16:52 ascii_field shits as it flies.
16:52 ben_vulpes there will be a mass
16:52 ben_vulpes with inertia
16:52 ben_vulpes below the thing
16:53 ascii_field if it shits tether faster than it gains altitude, then plausible
16:53 ben_vulpes yeah have fun with that control system handling the adjustable length tether
16:53 ben_vulpes > wind
16:53 ben_vulpes > oscillations
16:53 ascii_field adjustable?
16:53 ascii_field no mention of eating, only shitting
16:53 ascii_field i imagine the thing is disposable
16:53 ascii_field but i did not buy one, so nfi.
16:55 ascii_field would also be interesting to learn how 'In the event of a power interruption or microfilament failure, the PARC vehicle has an on board backup battery that will allow the vehicle to safely and autonomously return to its launch site.' works.
16:57 mircea_popescu in principle you could make a pretty decent disposable teether out of these supposed advanced materials
16:57 ascii_field holy fuck:
16:57 ascii_field https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1719668770/cyphy-lvl-1-drone-reinvented-for-performance-and-c << it was a kickstarter ?!!!
16:57 assbot CyPhy LVL 1 Drone: Reinvented for Performance and Control by CyPhy Works —Kickstarter ... ( http://bit.ly/1PBsyM8 )
16:57 mircea_popescu something that works like conductive spidwer web ideallyu
16:58 ascii_field mircea_popescu: as far as i can tell (supposing the product actually exists) they power via laser, with control ethernet riding modulated on top
16:59 ascii_field http://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanmac/2015/10/13/drone-startup-cyphy-works-gets-22-million-boost-from-bessemer-venture-partners << now we know that one or more (likely all) of the shareholders are muppets controlled by in-q-tel
16:59 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1PBt24R )
16:59 ascii_field fwiw.
16:59 mircea_popescu eh, doing by-hand aml in b-a is a waste of time.
16:59 ascii_field and not like anybody gave a fuck
16:59 mircea_popescu the reason usg-* loves playing that game is that well, they got slush funds up the ying yang
16:59 ascii_field just an accidental phind.
16:59 ben_vulpes anti-money-laundering?
17:00 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes
17:00 mircea_popescu yes. whenever usg spends money, it's engaging in fraud.
17:00 mircea_popescu eventually it'll have to rot in jail for it.
17:00 ben_vulpes power by laser << space elevator contests anyones?
17:00 mircea_popescu just... cheapert to ship it there wholesale than bother documenting the "oh, X partners!"
17:00 ascii_field ben_vulpes: cia owns a hedge fund called in-q-tel
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17:01 ascii_field anyway wire-guided rockets are what, 1960s state-of-art.
17:01 ascii_field so no mega-splash here.
17:01 mircea_popescu more like 1960s state of "i blew out my own eye"
17:01 mircea_popescu people can't aim those for shit
17:02 ascii_field a skilled hand - aims.
17:11 danielpbarron https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPsB7EeUEAQWVyt.jpg:large "looking for a co-founder"
17:11 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1OWU9pl )
17:15 mircea_popescu clearly this newfangled "communication technoilogy" has made it so much easier to find and work with people.
17:18 mircea_popescu "i've assembled a small team" but looking desperately for any actual human. the small team is made out of Siri, his 5yo step-daughter and a fridge he named Fred.
17:25 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
17:25 ascii_field mircea_popescu: aahahahahaha! i once actually interviewed for a schmuck like that
17:25 ascii_field many years ago. he burned out of 'y combinator' and walked around, looking for a chump, in 'starbucks' restaurants, even
17:26 mircea_popescu a chump to do what ? nonsexually hang out with ?
17:27 ascii_field grunt out code with
17:27 ascii_field (i won't bother to describe ~for what~ here, it was deadly boring & lame)
17:27 ascii_field something to do with arrays of disks.
17:27 trinque you just lack passion
17:27 ascii_field aha.
17:33 mircea_popescu burnout
17:35 ascii_field oh and seems like cyphy uses ordinary wire, not optical filament
17:35 ascii_field i wonder if it enjoys a good few kV put in the line.
17:35 ascii_field (not hard to arrange in the field - use an igniter from electric cig lighter)
17:35 brg444 hi!
17:36 BingoBoingo mega loller https://letsencrypt.readthedocs.org/en/latest/using.html#renewal
17:36 assbot User Guide — Let's Encrypt 0.2.0.dev0 documentation ... ( http://bit.ly/1TCc5G0 )
17:36 brg444 pray tell, how would anyone verify the status of a certain someone in the WoT, if reputation there exist
17:36 BingoBoingo brg444: You ask people about the person?
17:37 brg444 so I can't ask assbot?
17:37 BingoBoingo Well you could do that too
17:37 brg444 I'm asking because of this https://bitcoinism.liberty.me/scaling-bitcoin-to-its-first-billion-users-and-beyond-2/
17:37 assbot Scaling Bitcoin to Its First Billion Users and Beyond - Justus Ranvier - Liberty.me ... ( http://bit.ly/1TCcqZu )
17:38 BingoBoingo It depends on what you mean by "verify"
17:38 brg444 and the one by the name of justusranvier
17:38 brg444 right
17:38 BingoBoingo Oh yeah he's kinda headed full derp
17:39 brg444 in relation with other users? I remember Mircea posting a list of wot relations somewhere?
17:39 ascii_field brg444: http://btcalpha.com
17:39 assbot Btc Alpha - Analysis tools for bitcoin finance. ... ( http://bit.ly/1PBCncY )
17:39 ascii_field ^ mike_c's thing
17:39 BingoBoingo !http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/justusranvier/
17:39 BingoBoingo Yes, run by mike_c
17:40 brg444 ascii_field great! exactly what I was looking for
17:41 mircea_popescu !gettrust justusranvier
17:41 assbot Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user justusranvier: Level 1: -1, Level 2: -4 via 5 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=mircea_popescu&to=justusranvier | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/justusranvier/
17:41 brg444 when I first came up into Bitcoin he sounded sane but nowadays :/ from blog post "This means the most obvious way to lower the per-transaction cost is to simply process more transactions, thereby amortizing the fixed hashing cost across a wider pool."
17:43 ascii_field fixed?!!
17:44 ascii_field wat
17:44 brg444 oh I see now. I thought had read about him on trilema, that OkStupid story was gold
17:44 ascii_field ever see those 'proofs' where you do something ungodly, e.g., div by 0, and in the end 1 == 2 ?
17:45 ascii_field kindergarten sort of thing
17:45 brg444 magic!
17:45 ascii_field well, this'd be it
17:46 brg444 Next, future Bitcoin "optimizations": Removal of transaction data from blocks - Blockchain pruning UTXO set commitments - Invertible Bloom Lookup Tables (IBLTs) - Moore’s Law - Kryder’s Law - Nielsen’s Law - Yet-to-be-discovered improvements"
17:47 brg444 missing ""
17:48 mircea_popescu lmao
17:48 mircea_popescu who're you anyway brg444 ?
17:49 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/idiocy-without-borders-idiots-sans-frontieres/ << whenever i hear kickstarter mention can't help but think of this
17:49 assbot Idiocy without borders / Idiots sans frontieres on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1TCfapJ )
17:49 mircea_popescu imo the definitive kickstarter story.
17:50 brg444 mostly someone very curious.! in terms of the wot I'm afraid nobody.
17:50 brg444 strongest tie I may have is with pete_dushenski as fellow canuck
17:51 mircea_popescu well that sarcasm line got me lulzing, maybe try and do something for qntra
17:52 brg444 Working my way to it, eventually ;) but tbf my english is kinda broken in a way but it's getting there!
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18:16 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
18:16 ascii_field from same turd earlier,
18:17 ascii_field 'd-wave' (the 'quantum comp.' sc4mz0rz!!1), 'tyfone inc', 'mocana corp.', 'lms', and 'sionyx inc' were the top inqt subcontractors.
18:17 ascii_field in case anyone gives a shit.
18:18 ascii_field listed here in order.
18:18 ascii_field 'tyfone' is a l0l, makes a kind of usgistic cardano
18:20 * ascii_field is now wondering if inqtel really told the truth, in their tax declaration, or if this orchestra of derpatronics is disinfo
18:21 ascii_field cia is higher in the food chain than the tax men
18:21 ascii_field can absolve the sins if necessary.
18:21 ascii_field d-wave in particular ~has~ to be disinfo, i've been half-convinced of this for years now
18:22 ascii_field its purpose, by this hypothesis, is to bedevil other folks working on shor's algo computer or any related item
18:22 phf see also scott aaronson's ongoing intermittent d-wave fights
18:22 ascii_field aha
18:23 ascii_field thing's an elaborate snake oil.
18:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50300 @ 0.00049989 = 25.1445 BTC [+]
18:25 phf at my previous company we had a guy who used to work at lockheed, apparently they had a d-wave machine, and guy was tasked with encoding matrix reduction problems into the thing. he didn't really have anything interesting to say. you write code, send it to blackbox, results come out.
18:25 punkman does it run windows?
18:25 phf of course guy now does "fullstack" development instead (javascript, web)
18:27 phf probably runs windows, and an asic bought from some guy who used to sell bitcoin mining equipment
18:27 punkman http://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2015-12-02/why-china-s-millennials-are-happy-to-own-nothing
18:27 assbot Why China's Millennials Are Happy to Own Nothing - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1NKdgVd )
18:28 punkman http://assets.bwbx.io/images/iHa7XbCmJfqw/v1/-1x-1.jpg "Tyler Xiong wears a teddy bear suit at his You+ pad, which he shares with three employees of his Bitcoin startup"
18:28 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NKdlZ2 )
18:28 ascii_field phf: world's most expensive pen-II ?
18:29 * ascii_field bbl
18:30 deedbot- [Trilema] MPIF (F.MPIF) October-November 2015 Statement - http://trilema.com/2015/mpif-fmpif-october-november-2015-statement/
18:30 wyrdmantis Mood of tonight: https://youtu.be/LS-ErOKpO4E
18:30 assbot Nick Offerman's 'Yule Log' - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1NKdxYf )
18:33 punkman mircea_popescu: the second table in last qntra statement kinda overflowed
18:34 punkman err, s.mg statement
18:40 punkman https://haobtc.com/ Xiong's startup, wallet that pays interest from mining profits
18:40 assbot 好比特币--最好的比特币钱包 ... ( http://bit.ly/1NKegIR )
18:42 mircea_popescu eh it depends on the font one has
18:43 mircea_popescu is d-wave that supposed producer of pre-tangled quarks that was going to do relevant computation ANYDAYNOW ?
18:44 mircea_popescu <punkman> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2015-12-02/here-s-some-words-about-why-you-will-never-have-anything-and-should-be-happy-given-the-option-is-to-have-nothing-and-be-unhappy-also-china-is-exotigood << ftfy.
18:44 assbot Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1lzNMgr )
18:44 mircea_popescu buncha fucktards.
18:45 mircea_popescu didn't someone get a pop with lefthand tool ?
18:46 mircea_popescu oops.
18:53 mircea_popescu asciilifeform am i getting a s.nsa letter ?
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19:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67100 @ 0.00050041 = 33.5775 BTC [+] {4}
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19:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43050 @ 0.00050573 = 21.7717 BTC [+]
19:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9599 @ 0.00050573 = 4.8545 BTC [+]
20:00 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: yes! very shortly
20:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57601 @ 0.00050574 = 29.1311 BTC [+] {2}
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20:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 123750 @ 0.00049923 = 61.7797 BTC [-] {2}
20:32 asciilifeform re: dwave: obligatory turd - http://www.wired.com/2014/05/quantum-computing
20:32 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1RqIWOT )
20:33 asciilifeform 'he wasn’t going to make it in academia. “I never was able to find a place in science,” he says. But he felt he had the bullheaded tenacity, honed by years of wrestling, to be an entrepreneur. “I was good at putting together things that were really ambitious, without thinking they were impossible.” At a time when lots of smart people argued that quantum computers could never work, he fell in love with the idea of not
20:33 asciilifeform only making one but selling it.'
20:33 asciilifeform just picture this fella.
20:36 asciilifeform sorta lulzy, he pawned a 1950s-style analogue calculator off as a 'quantum comp'
20:36 asciilifeform or did we do this vivisection here already ?
20:38 asciilifeform 'He’s used the D-Wave to train image-recognizing algorithms for mobile phones that are more efficient than any before. He produced a car-recognition algorithm .... ' << even supposing any of this,
20:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43000 @ 0.00050447 = 21.6922 BTC [+]
20:38 asciilifeform see mircea_popescu's dragonfly article based on my talk at conf-II.
20:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36752 @ 0.00049536 = 18.2055 BTC [-] {2}
20:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00049122 = 3.1438 BTC [-]
20:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42648 @ 0.00049122 = 20.9496 BTC [-]
20:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20250 @ 0.00050608 = 10.2481 BTC [+] {2}
21:01 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: "SOPS"?
21:13 brg444 ^ben_vulpes http://trilema.com/2013/the-sops-or-what-might-you-expect-from-government-clerks/ ?
21:13 assbot The SOPS, or what might you expect from government clerks on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1XLGAtV )
21:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00049402 = 9.2876 BTC [-]
21:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92250 @ 0.00049842 = 45.9792 BTC [+] {2}
21:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59918 @ 0.00049871 = 29.8817 BTC [+]
21:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40360 @ 0.00049714 = 20.0646 BTC [-] {2}
21:44 * mircea_popescu is about to say something, sees the next line, nods.
21:59 mircea_popescu and in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/95d92a496f2b8a2dd68811c5ca08167a/tumblr_n3kam0uxWu1rv03nyo1_1270.jpg
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21:59 assbot 404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1TD9wDT )
21:59 mircea_popescu heh
21:59 mircea_popescu and in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/95d92a496f2b8a2dd68811c5ca08167a/tumblr_n3kam0uxWu1rv03nyo1_1280.jpg
21:59 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1TD9xYc )
22:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53350 @ 0.00050365 = 26.8697 BTC [+]
22:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94450 @ 0.00050619 = 47.8096 BTC [+]
22:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00050619 = 4.7582 BTC [+]
22:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 99886 @ 0.00050645 = 50.5873 BTC [+] {4}
22:31 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: sent !
22:33 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: please confirm if first paragraph makes ~exact~ sense, it is imho quite important.
22:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32900 @ 0.00050365 = 16.5701 BTC [-]
22:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29250 @ 0.00050907 = 14.8903 BTC [+] {3}
22:50 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-12-2015#1336197 << c3ns0r3d!!11111?
22:50 assbot Logged on 04-12-2015 02:59:12; mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/95d92a496f2b8a2dd68811c5ca08167a/tumblr_n3kam0uxWu1rv03nyo1_1270.jpg
22:53 BingoBoingo http://dpaste.com/06TDE83.txt
22:53 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/21Ab7zw )
22:57 BingoBoingo http://www.acuteaday.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/pademelon-with-joey-in-pouch.jpg
22:57 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1N00MFw )
22:59 asciilifeform moar inqtelism (circa 2012): http://www.digitalreasoning.com/uncommon-technology/answer-questions
22:59 assbot Uncommon Technology | Digital Reasoning ... ( http://bit.ly/1N00Wwt )
22:59 asciilifeform 'Who did they work with previously? Who might have shared information inappropriately or made a trade based on knowledge they shouldn’t have used?'
23:02 asciilifeform http://witricity.com << another, circa 2013. ripping off poor old nick tesla
23:02 assbot WiTricity Corporation | Wireless Power Over Distance ... ( http://bit.ly/1N01mmu )
23:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41004 @ 0.00050955 = 20.8936 BTC [+] {2}
23:04 asciilifeform aaaand an honest-to-goodness snake oil chumpatron, https://redseal.co/content/how-it-works
23:04 assbot How It Works | redseal.co ... ( http://bit.ly/1N01wKx )
23:06 asciilifeform aaand this oddity, http://www.polymagnet.com
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23:06 assbot Home - Correlated Magnetics ... ( http://bit.ly/1N01Fhl )
23:10 asciilifeform ^ apparently this is a commercial thing, can go, buy.
23:11 asciilifeform looks spiffy actually. used to be that you had to actually glue small ones together to get this effect.
23:12 BingoBoingo Would be interesting if the proceeds didn't go to CIA
23:13 asciilifeform still trying to grasp why they bought it
23:13 asciilifeform ... limpet mines ?
23:13 BingoBoingo for laundry
23:13 asciilifeform http://www.magnetics.com/product.asp?ProductID=164 << complete with spam video
23:13 assbot Industrial Magnetics, Inc. - Polymagnet® Kits ... ( http://bit.ly/21AdUsp )
23:13 BingoBoingo FEMA camps for dissident relocation don't pay for themselves
23:14 phf ;;seen kakobrekla
23:14 gribble kakobrekla was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 17 hours, 23 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <kakobrekla> The note comes soon after the bank filed a patent for a securities settlement platform based on SETLcoin, a new cryptocurrency.
23:14 BingoBoingo And can't appropriate money from congress for said camps until you've set the black helicopters free
23:16 asciilifeform https://www.lab41.org << yet another one of these.
23:16 asciilifeform imho i've listed the interesting ones.
23:16 asciilifeform (left out some schmucks who crawl twitter, etc)
23:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 105750 @ 0.00051142 = 54.0827 BTC [+] {4}
23:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3475 @ 0.00051014 = 1.7727 BTC [-] {2}
23:19 asciilifeform https://try.lab41.org << mega-l0l
23:20 asciilifeform not even trying to hide the cribbed wwwdevcrud
23:20 asciilifeform i'd like to learn what kind of whiskey these folks drink themselves to sleep with every night
23:20 asciilifeform (and at their desks)
23:22 BingoBoingo Prolly Ten High or Old Crow
23:22 BingoBoingo Serious Value
23:24 trinque I don't mind bulleit
23:25 BingoBoingo trinque: Out of the price range at the necessary quantities consumed in this scenario
23:25 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: not at kitten-reprocessing-plant pay scale
23:31 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i would say it does.
23:31 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: spiffy
23:31 mircea_popescu incidentally, ima publish a post-mortem report of the latest rent server attempt these coming days.
23:31 * asciilifeform looks forward to reading this
23:33 mircea_popescu omfg that's cute BingoBoingo
23:34 BingoBoingo Damn, that inch of height http://www.nyas.org/image.axd?id=d4aa338e-f305-4521-8822-b603cd76a9c7&t=634314620997800000
23:34 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1N04hf5 )
23:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27450 @ 0.00051166 = 14.0451 BTC [+] {2}
23:34 mircea_popescu asciilifeform what are you like training for intelwork nao ? :D
23:35 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i get spam from folks like these, so my curiosity was temporarily piqued.
23:35 mircea_popescu if it stays piqued long enouygh there's prolly a qntra in there.
23:35 asciilifeform they ask to buy my anal virginity, aha
23:36 asciilifeform i though qntra were for nyooooz
23:36 asciilifeform them there are oldz
23:36 mircea_popescu but in similar news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/c6d6af55f922ea0c34817181dfcf17ce/tumblr_mvfpg2r28I1qbn0f7o1_1280.jpg
23:36 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1N04wqr )
23:37 asciilifeform ^ aha!
23:37 asciilifeform 'felching' ?
23:37 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> them there are oldz << news can be olds if packed right
23:37 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: feel phree to package any and all of my exhaust gas as you may see fit
23:38 BingoBoingo That would take time away from mining new exhaust gasses, and that's not the kind of spam I receive.
23:38 mircea_popescu asciilifeform is this from the crumb cartoon ?
23:39 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: which
23:39 mircea_popescu random ustard sucking commie cum out of miss columbia ?
23:39 asciilifeform quite possib.
23:39 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i actually toured one such godforsaken heathen pit this very morning
23:40 asciilifeform saw perhaps 101 things mircea_popescu wrote about that never made sense prior.
23:40 BingoBoingo Aha, this is why you spam is must be so much more interesting than mine
23:41 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i let it be known that i was looking for wurk, some weeks past
23:41 asciilifeform and thus cometh the spam-sea
23:51 BingoBoingo ic
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