| 00:10 |
ben_vulpes |
phf: без купюр? |
| 00:11 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30300 @ 0.00051991 = 15.7533 BTC [+] {6} |
| 00:11 |
ben_vulpes |
in re fp, dunno that anyone noticed, but i backpedaled from the global state fatwa in my v poc |
| 00:12 |
ben_vulpes |
tres annoying to pass the same args around constantly. |
| 00:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14990 @ 0.00050722 = 7.6032 BTC [-] {5} |
| 00:26 |
phf |
ben_vulpes: "without cuts", купюра is from french coupure, and in this case means the parts that are cut out by the censor |
| 00:30 |
phf |
it's actually from latin caesura, which is now used as the name of pause in a poem. i thought caesarean section comes from that, but wikipedia article has a very confusing "etymology" section so i don't even know what to believe anymore! |
| 00:42 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 162576 @ 0.00052283 = 84.9996 BTC [+] {7} |
| 00:44 |
ben_vulpes |
ah |
| 00:50 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25700 @ 0.00051984 = 13.3599 BTC [-] {4} |
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| 01:15 |
mircea_popescu |
ben_vulpes he means he can talk without bothering with the annoying sorts of context. |
| 01:17 |
ben_vulpes |
hm |
| 01:17 |
ben_vulpes |
i might begin to be understanding |
| 01:18 |
ben_vulpes |
speaking without cuts then means to communicate intelligibly even without the bits that the censors stripped? |
| 01:18 |
mircea_popescu |
or without the baby crying. |
| 01:18 |
ben_vulpes |
is there some russian joke in there about how the bits that are cut are never the relevant ones? |
| 01:19 |
mircea_popescu |
the fundamental point of the written word is that allows a certain sort of abstraction. it's "escapism" in a particular sense. |
| 01:19 |
mircea_popescu |
the log system takes this fundamentally further. |
| 01:22 |
ben_vulpes |
because a corpus through which one can grep exists, the forum can on an ongoing basis can communicate ever more abstractly? |
| 01:24 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21126 @ 0.00051973 = 10.9798 BTC [-] {2} |
| 01:24 |
mircea_popescu |
i don't think we mean the same by abstraction. it's not a sort of cool. it's basically purification. |
| 01:24 |
mircea_popescu |
like in "he was spirited away", "we abstracted him away" |
| 01:26 |
mircea_popescu |
phf the problem with the village of ugly women is that well, there's probably something wrong with the water. yes the people now involved may be subpar for whatever reason or explanation to do with them. maybe. or maybe THIS offshot of the hope to ai is just as rotten as the rest of the various attempts to ai that preceded it. |
| 01:26 |
mircea_popescu |
for reasons to do with that, instead. |
| 01:27 |
mircea_popescu |
(what apparently nobody wants to mention is that the "good" oop now corrupted by teh evil orcs was really a child of desperation. pretty much born out of the mit through c-section, in the classical sense) |
| 01:29 |
mircea_popescu |
(there's a very good reason they keep going on with cow and dog are animal. there was a great paper in the log about "you know what, just change your chosen names to hashes, see if teh system appears to be doing as much "understanding" as it did before.) |
| 01:29 |
ben_vulpes |
mircea_popescu: i meant abstraction in the sense of software that composes small tools into larger units that...operate at a higher level of abstraction. |
| 01:29 |
mircea_popescu |
you have no fucking idea what that word means, do you. |
| 01:29 |
ben_vulpes |
apparently not! |
| 01:29 |
ben_vulpes |
what does it mean then. |
| 01:30 |
mircea_popescu |
abstraction is loss. you throw out all sorts of stuff and hope&pray that it wasn't actually needed. |
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| 01:30 |
* |
ben_vulpes roars |
| 01:30 |
ben_vulpes |
SOUNDS A LOT LIKE WRITING SOFTWARE |
| 01:31 |
ben_vulpes |
i kid, i kid. |
| 01:31 |
trinque |
http://amix.dk/uploads/picasso_bull.jpg |
| 01:31 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1MK3pJe ) |
| 01:32 |
mircea_popescu |
romanian joke, for you. man sitting at desk, dog next to him pissing in his shoe. |
| 01:32 |
mircea_popescu |
guy comes in, "hey, isn't that dog pissing in your shoe bothering you ?!" |
| 01:32 |
mircea_popescu |
"fac abstractie." |
| 01:32 |
mircea_popescu |
(i am abstracting) |
| 01:34 |
ben_vulpes |
heh |
| 01:38 |
mircea_popescu |
in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/186b118d7872656083275f142326edad/tumblr_mgf1plcMTW1rmkahco1_1280.jpg |
| 01:38 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1MK3XyF ) |
| 01:45 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28348 @ 0.00051973 = 14.7333 BTC [-] {2} |
| 01:46 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1952 @ 0.00052307 = 1.021 BTC [+] |
| 01:48 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8536 @ 0.00051758 = 4.4181 BTC [-] {3} |
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| 02:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36150 @ 0.00050964 = 18.4235 BTC [-] {3} |
| 02:22 |
punkman |
speaking of Alan Kay, I recently stumbled on one of his inane ted-style talks, and his lets-reinvent-computars project http://www.vpri.org/html/work/ifnct.htm |
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| 02:22 |
assbot |
Viewpoints Research Institute ... ( http://bit.ly/1NkoyPQ ) |
| 02:31 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8085 @ 0.00050708 = 4.0997 BTC [-] {2} |
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assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8265 @ 0.0005068 = 4.1887 BTC [-] {2} |
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| 02:49 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21300 @ 0.0005101 = 10.8651 BTC [+] {2} |
| 02:57 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42369 @ 0.00050829 = 21.5357 BTC [-] {5} |
| 02:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19382 @ 0.0005101 = 9.8868 BTC [+] {2} |
| 03:05 |
deedbot- |
[Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Get Shorty. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/11/22/get-shorty/ |
| 03:16 |
punkman |
saw this in the cinema long time ago. puts it on rewatch list. |
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| 03:38 |
punkman |
http://bookzz.org/book/1272987/e8c77c |
| 03:38 |
assbot |
I'll Go Home Then, It's Warm and Has Chairs: The Unpublished Emails. | David Thorne | digital library bookzz ... ( http://bit.ly/21bjUrg ) |
| 03:39 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56933 @ 0.00052153 = 29.6923 BTC [+] {5} |
| 03:40 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8544 @ 0.00052405 = 4.4775 BTC [+] |
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| 04:14 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47601 @ 0.00050997 = 24.2751 BTC [-] {5} |
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| 04:33 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100500 @ 0.00050679 = 50.9324 BTC [-] {3} |
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| 05:04 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16834 @ 0.00051283 = 8.633 BTC [+] {2} |
| 05:14 |
punkman |
http://boingboing.net/2015/11/21/southwest-airlines-surrenders.html |
| 05:14 |
assbot |
Southwest Airlines surrenders to racists, refuses boarding to Arab-American passengers / Boing Boing ... ( http://bit.ly/1N1pDFL ) |
| 05:16 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24700 @ 0.00050679 = 12.5177 BTC [-] {2} |
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| 05:43 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8140 @ 0.00051225 = 4.1697 BTC [+] {2} |
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| 06:02 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 311 @ 0.00328387 = 1.0213 BTC [-] {3} |
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| 06:34 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40312 @ 0.00051245 = 20.6579 BTC [+] {3} |
| 06:40 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12992 @ 0.00051372 = 6.6743 BTC [+] |
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| 07:04 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84600 @ 0.00050755 = 42.9387 BTC [-] {4} |
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| 08:03 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19203 @ 0.00051453 = 9.8805 BTC [+] |
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| 08:22 |
shinohai |
!s http://cointelegraph.com/news/115703/delta-id-coin-new-utility-altcoin-developed-for-timestamping-system <<< why??? |
| 08:22 |
assbot |
Just a moment... ... ( http://bit.ly/1MvMkVt ) |
| 08:22 |
assbot |
0 results for 'http://cointelegraph.com/news/115703/delta-id-coin-new-utility-altcoin-developed-for-timestamping-system <<< why???' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fcointelegraph.com%2Fnews%2F115703%2Fdelta-id-coin-new-utility-altcoin-developed-for-timestamping-system+++%3C%3C%3C+why%3F%3F%3F |
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| 08:40 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15494 @ 0.00051493 = 7.9783 BTC [+] {3} |
| 08:45 |
mircea_popescu |
punkman guy is like 75 or some shit. |
| 08:46 |
mircea_popescu |
fine example if alf's greatest fear, he wasn't nearly this derpy back before martin luther king. |
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| 08:49 |
mircea_popescu |
o yeah get shorty is good. sort of like early pulp fiction / snatch |
| 08:50 |
mircea_popescu |
meh, epub. i'll wait for the text version. |
| 08:51 |
punkman |
epub is text |
| 08:51 |
punkman |
this one at least |
| 08:51 |
mircea_popescu |
shinohai because there are way more people than jobs. |
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| 08:52 |
mircea_popescu |
punkman i just went in a cycle asking "then why the fuck are they not calling it .txt" and answering myself the line above to shinohai and now i feel a little queasy. |
| 08:52 |
punkman |
lol |
| 08:53 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00052382 = 4.9501 BTC [+] {2} |
| 08:55 |
mircea_popescu |
PK^C^D ^@^@^@^@^@\ |
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| 08:55 |
mircea_popescu |
lies. |
| 08:56 |
punkman |
you can unzip the epub, you'll get html |
| 08:59 |
mircea_popescu |
a ty. |
| 08:59 |
mircea_popescu |
"this book is sold subject to the condition that it won't be lent" |
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| 09:00 |
mircea_popescu |
what the motherfucking shit is wrong with these people. |
| 09:00 |
mircea_popescu |
"oh look, i wrote some words down, now you gotta do what i say!!1" |
| 09:01 |
mircea_popescu |
said every obnoxious 9 yo girl having experienced insufficient ponytail pulling. |
| |
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| 09:02 |
BingoBoingo |
;;later tell mitch_callahan your connection is doing that thing again |
| 09:02 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 09:03 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36100 @ 0.00050963 = 18.3976 BTC [-] {4} |
| 09:04 |
mircea_popescu |
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="no"?><!DOCTYPE html |
| 09:04 |
mircea_popescu |
PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN" |
| 09:04 |
mircea_popescu |
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd"><html |
| 09:04 |
mircea_popescu |
xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" |
| 09:04 |
mircea_popescu |
content="application/xhtml+xml; charset=utf-8" /><meta |
| 09:04 |
mircea_popescu |
http-equiv="Content-Style-Type" content="text/css" /><meta |
| 09:04 |
mircea_popescu |
name="generator" content="Aspose.Words for .NET 10.6.0.0" |
| 09:04 |
mircea_popescu |
href="styles.css" type="text/css" rel="stylesheet" /></head><body><div><h1 |
| 09:04 |
mircea_popescu |
id="navPoint_1"><span>Foreword</span></h1><p><span |
| 09:04 |
mircea_popescu |
style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif"> </span></p><p><span |
| 09:04 |
mircea_popescu |
style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif">Hello. Thank you for buying this |
| 09:04 |
mircea_popescu |
book. </span><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif">Or at least the |
| 09:04 |
mircea_popescu |
e-book.</span><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif"> I laid this out |
| 09:04 |
mircea_popescu |
myself and I have never done an e-book layout before so </span><span |
| 09:04 |
mircea_popescu |
style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif">I </span><span |
| 09:04 |
mircea_popescu |
style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif">apologise</span><span |
| 09:04 |
mircea_popescu |
style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif"> in advance </span><span |
| 09:04 |
mircea_popescu |
style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif">if </span><span |
| 09:04 |
mircea_popescu |
style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif">it isnt very good. I probably |
| 09:04 |
mircea_popescu |
should have put in more effort but you know how it is. With round the |
| 09:04 |
mircea_popescu |
clock episodes of Property Virgins on HGTV and sleeping to do, there never |
| 09:05 |
mircea_popescu |
</span><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif">seems</span><span |
| 09:05 |
mircea_popescu |
style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif"> enough hours in the day. |
| 09:05 |
mircea_popescu |
</span><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif">Also, r</span><span |
| 09:05 |
mircea_popescu |
style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif">ather than go to any real effort, I |
| 09:05 |
mircea_popescu |
thought it would be easier to simply collect all the material I have |
| 09:05 |
mircea_popescu |
written that didnt make it into the first book, either due to timing, |
| 09:05 |
mircea_popescu |
space, legal issues, or not being very good, and put them in this one. |
| 09:05 |
mircea_popescu |
</span></p><p><span style="font-family:Arial, |
| 09:05 |
mircea_popescu |
sans-serif"> </span></p><p><span style="font-family:Arial, |
| 09:05 |
mircea_popescu |
sans-serif">Hosting fees are e |
| 09:05 |
mircea_popescu |
would you look at this stupid shit! |
| 09:05 |
kakobrekla |
srs. |
| 09:05 |
mircea_popescu |
take some text, put it through "Aspose.Words for .NET 10.6.0.0" so you can have <span></span> for every other word like in the old days of microsoft computing, and then zip the shit and call it "epub". |
| 09:05 |
mircea_popescu |
fucking hell already. go make altcoins, people. |
| 09:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31500 @ 0.00052382 = 16.5003 BTC [+] {2} |
| 09:07 |
mitch_callahan |
ahh sorry BingoBoingo, its this stupid Mac client I'm using. i'll remove it today. |
| 09:07 |
mircea_popescu |
"hosting fees are expensive" my foot. they're only expensive because "oh i just wanna be a designer" all over the place. |
| 09:08 |
punkman |
https://i.vimeocdn.com/video/502526058.jpg saw Uncle Vanya yesterday. here's the set chekov-gun'd until the fucking picture frames are empty. |
| 09:08 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1T82IOj ) |
| 09:16 |
mircea_popescu |
vaguely related http://45.media.tumblr.com/8c442cfeab1c18787e269f2899b09a41/tumblr_mfk5a3wM1t1rv5wh5o1_500.gif |
| 09:16 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1kOAQn5 ) |
| 09:23 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23411 @ 0.00052382 = 12.2632 BTC [+] {2} |
| 09:33 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46515 @ 0.00052382 = 24.3655 BTC [+] {3} |
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| 10:06 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00052383 = 2.4096 BTC [+] {2} |
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| 10:57 |
deedbot- |
[Trilema] Fuck you and your stupid epub. Also, David Thorne's 2nd book (it isn't really very good). - http://trilema.com/2015/fuck-you-and-your-stupid-epub-also-david-thornes-2nd-book-it-isnt-really-very-good/ |
| 10:58 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-11-2015#1329599 >> 'the map is not the territory but the territory didn't fit in my glove compartment' |
| 10:58 |
assbot |
Logged on 22-11-2015 06:30:10; mircea_popescu: abstraction is loss. you throw out all sorts of stuff and hope&pray that it wasn't actually needed. |
| 10:58 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-11-2015#1329616 >> snore, this is what happens if you live too long - old, 'respectable', impotent |
| 10:58 |
assbot |
Logged on 22-11-2015 07:22:09; punkman: speaking of Alan Kay, I recently stumbled on one of his inane ted-style talks, and his lets-reinvent-computars project http://www.vpri.org/html/work/ifnct.htm |
| 10:59 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-11-2015#1329646 >> perhaps somebody will have the basic decency to feed me a bullet prior |
| 10:59 |
assbot |
Logged on 22-11-2015 13:46:27; mircea_popescu: fine example if alf's greatest fear, he wasn't nearly this derpy back before martin luther king. |
| 10:59 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-11-2015#1329651 >> but there are ~precisely~ as many people as there are picks at butugychag |
| 10:59 |
assbot |
Logged on 22-11-2015 13:51:32; mircea_popescu: shinohai because there are way more people than jobs. |
| 11:00 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-11-2015#1329659 >> see also http://www.loper-os.org/?p=918 |
| 11:00 |
assbot |
Logged on 22-11-2015 13:59:58; mircea_popescu: "this book is sold subject to the condition that it won't be lent" |
| 11:00 |
assbot |
Loper OS » To Lend is the Right of an Owner – That is, Not You. ... ( http://bit.ly/1TY5dDA ) |
| 11:00 |
asciilifeform |
'To those who would retain their right to personal property: your only true allies are the pirates. Not lending libraries, not reasonably priced and humane iTunes-like services. The pirates are the only people presently defending the no-compromise, My-Computer-is-Mine point of view.' -- yours truly |
| 11:02 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-11-2015#1329662 << gianni rodari had a rhyme about 'the girl that wanted a song just for her and nobody else' |
| 11:02 |
assbot |
Logged on 22-11-2015 14:01:19; mircea_popescu: said every obnoxious 9 yo girl having experienced insufficient ponytail pulling. |
| 11:04 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-11-2015#1329655 << the 'PK' didn't give it away ?? |
| 11:04 |
assbot |
Logged on 22-11-2015 13:55:36; mircea_popescu: PK^C^D ^@^@^@^@^@\ |
| 11:05 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform only after he said. |
| 11:06 |
asciilifeform |
y'know, 0x50 0x4B 0x03 0x04. |
| 11:06 |
* |
asciilifeform nostalgic |
| 11:07 |
mircea_popescu |
that part of my brain has been overwritten by tits. |
| 11:07 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform speaking of defending, see the latest trilema. |
| 11:09 |
* |
asciilifeform reading it presently |
| 11:09 |
* |
asciilifeform briefly took a break from debugging a motherfucking debugger |
| 11:09 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 11:11 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: didja actually swallow that whole thing ? |
| 11:12 |
mircea_popescu |
what ? |
| 11:12 |
asciilifeform |
the thorne turd |
| 11:12 |
mircea_popescu |
well yes. |
| 11:12 |
mircea_popescu |
it's just 400kb or so. |
| 11:12 |
asciilifeform |
it isn't the weight |
| 11:12 |
asciilifeform |
but the... contents |
| 11:12 |
mircea_popescu |
which i suppose counts for "368" pages in lalaland wherew they do 1k characters per page. |
| 11:12 |
mircea_popescu |
what about them ? |
| 11:13 |
* |
mircea_popescu shudders at the thought he actually had to "turn a page" every 1k bytes. |
| 11:13 |
mircea_popescu |
god damned it i'd rather be a z80/ |
| 11:14 |
mircea_popescu |
books are for german kids, really, the sort that grew up waddled at the ankles. |
| 11:14 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: ergo the popularity of mechanized b00kz |
| 11:14 |
mircea_popescu |
what the fuck is wrong wiht plain text omfg. |
| 11:14 |
asciilifeform |
aside from maths - nothing |
| 11:15 |
asciilifeform |
for the most part that is what i keep around on dead tree |
| 11:15 |
mircea_popescu |
a) none of these derps know any maths and b) i do and somehow survive. if you need a particular notation to do maths either you're not very good or are trying to talk to idiots. |
| 11:16 |
* |
asciilifeform would like to read mircea_popescu's notation-less mathematical work. i bet it is rather like euclid on lsd |
| 11:16 |
kakobrekla |
like feynman and his diagrams. total idiot. |
| 11:16 |
asciilifeform |
and fuck leibniz aha |
| 11:16 |
* |
mircea_popescu retreats growling audibly. |
| 11:18 |
jurov |
i'd like to see natural language applied to programming, too |
| 11:19 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: ever use 'hypertalk' ? |
| 11:19 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: you can see a little bit in one of my old articles, http://www.loper-os.org/?p=568 |
| 11:19 |
assbot |
Loper OS » Why Hypercard Had to Die ... ( http://bit.ly/1U578pU ) |
| 11:19 |
asciilifeform |
(imho the idea of 'natural language program' is fundamentally, deeply braindamaged like few other ideas) |
| 11:23 |
mircea_popescu |
"natural languages" != "alphabetic notation". |
| 11:23 |
mircea_popescu |
i dunno why the fuck this point is so unobvious, but : most of the intellectual gains humanity has made came after it decided to do what science always does : arbitrarily clamp down on complexity in one place to use this as leverage against complexity elsewhere. |
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| 11:24 |
assbot |
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| 11:24 |
mircea_popescu |
there is a fucking reason white people are better than all the other people, and it has jack shit to do with the skin. |
| 11:24 |
mircea_popescu |
a lot more to do with the brilliant idea of "use these letters and fuck you and your ugly mother." |
| 11:25 |
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| 11:26 |
jurov |
adding a meaning for a word that already has zillion of other meanings, instead of using dedicated symbol is NOT reducing complexity |
| 11:27 |
mircea_popescu |
and you know this how ? |
| 11:27 |
jurov |
from experience |
| 11:27 |
jurov |
and you? |
| 11:27 |
mircea_popescu |
but does your experience also include what i actually said above, or just what you saw in it ? |
| 11:28 |
mircea_popescu |
i said "clamp down in one place" not "reduce". how the fuck are you goingto reduce complexity and why aren't you moving on to entropy next! |
| 11:28 |
jurov |
you explicitly named the place as "use these letters and fuck you and your ugly mother." |
| 11:28 |
mircea_popescu |
aha. |
| 11:28 |
mircea_popescu |
think of it as a boat. |
| 11:29 |
mircea_popescu |
the boat does not make the ocean level any lower. |
| 11:29 |
mircea_popescu |
except it allows you to stay dry. |
| 11:29 |
mircea_popescu |
(it actually makes the level raise slightly, but that is part of the "hope and pray" definition of abstraction yesterday - we hope and pray it dun matter.) |
| 11:31 |
jurov |
that's finest advocacy of humanist pseudosciences i ever saw |
| 11:32 |
jurov |
they try to take existing language and leverage it, too |
| 11:32 |
mircea_popescu |
👍 |
| 11:32 |
gribble |
Error: "#128077;" is not a valid command. |
| 11:32 |
mircea_popescu |
11110000:10011111:10010001:10001101 |
| 11:32 |
mircea_popescu |
you know what i mean... |
| 11:38 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, again not sure why this isn't obvious, but the alphabet is (still is, in spite of all the "help" geeks gave it) a defined, closed, easily countable set. |
| 11:38 |
mircea_popescu |
"natural language" isn't even defined. |
| 11:48 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-11-2015#1329763 << with regards to mathematics, it was ~specifically~ about tying folks' dirty, sticky, shit-covered 'intuitive language brain' monkey hands and forcing formal reasoning |
| 11:48 |
assbot |
Logged on 22-11-2015 16:23:54; mircea_popescu: i dunno why the fuck this point is so unobvious, but : most of the intellectual gains humanity has made came after it decided to do what science always does : arbitrarily clamp down on complexity in one place to use this as leverage against complexity elsewhere. |
| 11:48 |
mircea_popescu |
aha. |
| 11:48 |
mircea_popescu |
which is why this "no but math notation" argument is so bifurcacious. |
| 11:48 |
asciilifeform |
take, for instance, http://www.loper-os.org/wp-content/hypercard-calc/hc23.jpg << this. it took me perhaps 20 whole minutes to crap out. know why ? |
| 11:48 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1lCyVCf ) |
| 11:49 |
asciilifeform |
the reason was that using english as it permits itself to be used, specifically fails, in ways which the hypertalk docs did not take any pains to describe |
| 11:50 |
asciilifeform |
(in short, the disambiguation has to be done like-so; and you can use pronouns, but only like-so) |
| 11:50 |
asciilifeform |
overall much more pain, imho, than any ordinary programming language. |
| 11:51 |
trinque |
interesting. there you see that abstraction increases complexity clearly, by way of an exaggerated case |
| 11:51 |
asciilifeform |
idiot abstraction balloons up complexity like nothing else |
| 11:51 |
trinque |
SQL also, "lets make a language for accountants and other non-programmers" |
| 11:52 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.loper-os.org/wp-content/romankbd.png |
| 11:52 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1lCzeNs ) |
| 11:52 |
trinque |
they at (the very) least made something of a double-back somewhere along the language's history |
| 11:52 |
thestringpuller |
trinque: that's an apt observation of SQL. |
| 11:52 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform same problem is why everyone hates what originally seemed obvious and intuitive : the text powered adventure |
| 11:52 |
mircea_popescu |
motherfucker i hated larry's comprehension. |
| 11:52 |
asciilifeform |
trying to make a programming language for ~the wrong side of the camel hump~ is like trying to build a car for folks missing both arms and legs |
| 11:53 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: precisely that |
| 11:53 |
thestringpuller |
what's with all the danny devito reviews on da blogs? |
| 11:53 |
mircea_popescu |
no. bad analogy. |
| 11:53 |
mircea_popescu |
it's like trying to make trains for cixi |
| 11:53 |
asciilifeform |
^ |
| 11:55 |
mircea_popescu |
as far as her dumb ass is concerned, the best possible train is a ghetto blaster with the volume welded to low, playing christmas carrols from under the mirrors-ensconced speakers. |
| 12:01 |
mircea_popescu |
in other news, "you should perhaps point out to your mother that being ugly is no excuse to rawdog drunks" is my new favourite insult. |
| 12:05 |
* |
asciilifeform mumbles something about $chipvendor rawdogging drunks |
| 12:05 |
* |
asciilifeform has 'wrath' bit set |
| 12:09 |
thestringpuller |
"the wrath of alfdog" << great name for a hip hop album |
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| 12:14 |
asciilifeform |
mips_ejtag_drscan_8_out(ejtag_info, MCHP_DE_ASSERT_RST); << motherfuckers. WE ARE SO SPESHUL, can't use standard mips reset ahahaha. |
| 12:16 |
kakobrekla |
<trinque> SQL also, "lets make a language for accountants and other non-programmers" < yet is anyone still writing raw queries in this day? |
| 12:17 |
mircea_popescu |
pretty much every time i want something from trilema i SELECT by hand |
| 12:17 |
asciilifeform |
^ |
| 12:17 |
mircea_popescu |
i really have no idea why i'd want a language on top of that. what's it going to do ? |
| 12:18 |
trinque |
frustrate you by hiding functionality of the underlying |
| 12:19 |
fluffypony |
kakobrekla: I write raw queries a few times a week |
| 12:19 |
mircea_popescu |
the only way it could be useful is if it somehow intuited what the columns are actually named for me so i don't have to always keep checking |
| 12:19 |
mircea_popescu |
but that ain't happening |
| 12:20 |
kakobrekla |
you dont need 'functionality' to SELECT from wp-posts |
| 12:20 |
asciilifeform |
intuited << see one of the better mr mold pieces re: same, http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2009/07/wolfram-alpha-and-hubristic-user.html |
| 12:20 |
assbot |
Unqualified Reservations: Wolfram Alpha and hubristic user interfaces ... ( http://bit.ly/1lCBDHG ) |
| 12:20 |
asciilifeform |
'...control interfaces must not be intelligent. Briefly, intelligent user interfaces should be limited to applications in which the user does not expect to control the behavior of the product. If the product is used as a tool, its interface should be as unintelligent as possible. Stupid is predictable; predictable is learnable; learnable is usable.' |
| 12:20 |
trinque |
kakobrekla: it is amusing though, yes, that this that was originally intended to be a user interface got buried as it did |
| 12:20 |
kakobrekla |
i find raw queries disgusting |
| 12:21 |
asciilifeform |
kakobrekla: do you find the tool disgusting, or the work ? |
| 12:21 |
asciilifeform |
folks tend to confuse the two |
| 12:21 |
kakobrekla |
perhaps both. |
| 12:22 |
fluffypony |
SELECT * FROM kakobrekla_brain WHERE is_disgusting=1; |
| 12:22 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla i know how to do joins and everything! |
| 12:22 |
mircea_popescu |
what functionality are you talking about ? |
| 12:22 |
fluffypony |
ORDER BY last_disgusted_date DESC; |
| 12:22 |
fluffypony |
:-P |
| 12:22 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu probably also knows how to change a crankshaft. but does he ~want~ to. |
| 12:23 |
mircea_popescu |
and honestly i don't mind it so much. about the same as my life generally, really. |
| 12:23 |
mircea_popescu |
"bring me this" "fetch me a that" "kill that schmuck" |
| 12:23 |
mircea_popescu |
if you're going to rule people you gotta be able to somehow explain what you actually want done and raw queries are really not far off. |
| 12:24 |
asciilifeform |
ah but machine doesn't typically respond to whipping |
| 12:24 |
mircea_popescu |
nor needs it. |
| 12:24 |
asciilifeform |
which is why man so often becomes servant of machine, rather than vice versa |
| 12:24 |
asciilifeform |
stuck 'wrestling with the pig' |
| 12:25 |
mircea_popescu |
i would much rather spend five minutes writing queries than figuring why the fuck copy *. doesn't work and ending up using cat |
| 12:26 |
mircea_popescu |
seriously, leaving aside everything else, why the fuck would you make THIRTY EIGHT DIFFERENT FILES ? |
| 12:26 |
mircea_popescu |
what is this "chapter" thing and why is it in your epub^H^H^H^H zipfile ? |
| 12:32 |
jurov |
i'm okay with sql. but when programatically constructing a query, i prefer sqlalchemy |
| 12:38 |
kakobrekla |
most folks most of the time dont need 'functionality', just like with sugar. |
| 12:38 |
asciilifeform |
see also mircea_popescu's 'this is a spiffy rifle, i'll take it fishing and to bed' |
| 12:39 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla no but seriously, i'm at least partly here to learn, so what functionality is it ? like a good example. |
| 12:40 |
kakobrekla |
this one: <trinque> frustrate you by hiding functionality of the underlying |
| 12:40 |
kakobrekla |
ask trinq. |
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| 13:13 |
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| 13:21 |
trinque |
mircea_popescu │ kakobrekla no but seriously, i'm at least partly here to learn, so what functionality is it ? like a good example. << this I think calls for careful steps and a machete |
| 13:21 |
trinque |
the huge problem with relational databases is that they conflated programming and declarative data access to the detriment of both |
| 13:22 |
trinque |
one place you'll find c-like expressions and functions; another you find set union and difference operators which work entirely via magic |
| 13:23 |
trinque |
this magic is why (as I understand it) asciilifeform abhors the thing; you have in no way been involved with what steps will be taken to compute the result other than describing the result itself, barring again, the places where actual programming crept back in |
| 13:24 |
trinque |
the usefulness of this declarative mode is I think as you describe, "get me a that" damn it, because I want one. |
| 13:25 |
trinque |
aside this, any work I'm doing in databases has been indefinitely postponed until I understand CLOS far better, and review what was done atop it |
| 13:25 |
kakobrekla |
if you think you have done away with magick using raw queries you are mistaken |
| 13:25 |
trinque |
nah, I am saying the db is magic to the core. |
| 13:25 |
trinque |
horrible chimera |
| 13:26 |
kakobrekla |
the layer on top (at least mine) generates queries deterministically and the result is not obstructed |
| 13:27 |
trinque |
use objects at that layer? |
| 13:27 |
kakobrekla |
optionally |
| 13:27 |
trinque |
SQLAlchemy or the like? |
| 13:28 |
kakobrekla |
i havent used sqla, i guess its is probably similar though i cant say for sure |
| 13:28 |
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kakobrekla doesnt use off shelf solution |
| 13:29 |
trinque |
cool |
| 13:30 |
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| 13:31 |
jurov |
some people went boldly to solve RDBMS problem... and created MongoDB. *cringe* |
| 13:32 |
trinque |
myeah, that thing is a sin |
| 13:33 |
asciilifeform |
there are 'people' programming computers who wouldn't have been allowed within cannon shot of a tractor in kolhoz, yes |
| 13:34 |
trinque |
jurov: I simply wish to sit with my data-set and say "give me the X for which this lambda evaluates true, retrieve its related Y and Z, compute this aggregate over the related Y and Z; do this again with another lambda. Return the paginated list of the intersection of the two result sets" |
| 13:34 |
trinque |
I'm sure this could be done rather well atop CLOS with no other monstrosities involved |
| 13:35 |
trinque |
and the observation which led to databases in the first place is that questions like the above arise constantly; they are not thought of once and etched into the program in stone |
| 13:36 |
trinque |
these document stores are nothing more than "What, you don't already know the key of the value you want?" and subsequently "Well fuck, how do we tack relational ideas back onto this, now that we've abandoned all notion of formal structure?" |
| 13:37 |
asciilifeform |
http://siliconexposed.blogspot.com/2014_03_01_archive.html << unrelated but very spiffy |
| 13:37 |
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| 13:37 |
asciilifeform |
'Once the via was drilled and it appeared we had made contact with the signal trace, it was time to backfill with platinum. The video below is sped up 10x to avoid boring my readers ;)' |
| 13:39 |
asciilifeform |
'Once everything was done and the chamber was vented I removed the carbon coating with oxygen plasma (the cleanroom's standard photoresist removal process), packaged up my sample, went home, and soldered it back to the board for testing. After powering it up... nothing! The device was as dead as a doornail, I couldn't even get a JTAG IDCODE from it. ... ... ruled out beam-induced damage as I had not been hitting any of the I/O |
| 13:39 |
asciilifeform |
circuitry with the ion beam ... I realized what was going on almost instantly: the antenna effect. The bond wire and leadframe connected to each pad in the device was acting as an antenna and coupling some of the 13.56 MHz RF energy from the plasma into the input buffers, blowing out the ESD diodes and input transistors, and leaving me with a dead chip.' |
| 13:49 |
mircea_popescu |
trinque can i get "this" and "that" comparisons of the actual thing ? "ceci n'est pas une pipe" "this is not a pipe" sort of thing |
| 13:50 |
jurov |
trinque i'd rather have lazy evaluator that collects the filters and operations I normally have in the program, and compiles them together into optimized query and executes it only when the result is needed |
| 13:50 |
jurov |
but that's hard AI, I'm afrraid |
| 13:50 |
trinque |
mircea_popescu: the mismatch I was referring to was the object-relational-mapper; it cannot for example (easily, or usably) create a new object which is the synthesis of n other objects done by inner join |
| 13:51 |
trinque |
on the SQL side you're more than welcome to create new sets at will via views |
| 13:53 |
mircea_popescu |
aha... |
| 13:56 |
jurov |
i don't see why this of all is the problem, objects usually know which table/column is the field wired to |
| 13:57 |
trinque |
there are sets which are derived from operations on other sets |
| 13:58 |
trinque |
"an active_customer is one with an active_subscription and an enabled flag and..." |
| 13:58 |
jurov |
as long as all the values take their primary keys with them, you're fine |
| 13:59 |
trinque |
this is not the point |
| 14:01 |
jurov |
for me biggest prob was the consistency, in any nontrivial ORM situation you build the objects partially, must take care of constraints... db that defers checking constraints to commit would help, but then how do you report it to user... hairiness |
| 14:01 |
trinque |
and actually you're going to end up looking at SQL ASTs to figure out where a column came from |
| 14:01 |
trinque |
jurov: *that* was my point |
| 14:01 |
trinque |
that using an ORM you duplicate what the DB can already do |
| 14:02 |
trinque |
why not derive your JS form validator or whatever from your db constraint? |
| 14:02 |
trinque |
"because SQL" << and now we're back to me writing a CL RDBMS |
| 14:02 |
mircea_popescu |
for some reason these all sound to me like "the problems we get for having a bad db design" |
| 14:03 |
mircea_popescu |
if one structures his tables sanely then none of these complex requests exiswt |
| 14:03 |
jurov |
i see |
| 14:04 |
trinque |
that's certainly so, that you either pick a sane table structure, or you write terrible queries |
| 14:04 |
jurov |
hahaha and then is not able to detect glaring errors...because "dis doth not exist!!111" |
| 14:04 |
jurov |
*mpex is |
| 14:05 |
trinque |
and my most complex queries have typically involved converting one schema to another one time, and then throwing away the queries |
| 14:11 |
jurov |
!up linton_s_dawson |
| 14:11 |
jurov |
pls don't thank me |
| 14:16 |
jurov |
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jurov |
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| 18:12 |
asciilifeform |
pete_dushenski, ben_vulpes, et al: motherfucking crapple. ~4 hrs disassembly to swap a measely inverter cable |
| 18:13 |
pete_dushenski |
for the unawares, what SHOULD it take ? |
| 18:13 |
asciilifeform |
0. |
| 18:13 |
asciilifeform |
in civilized iron this is not a wear component ! |
| 18:13 |
pete_dushenski |
l0l |
| 18:14 |
pete_dushenski |
'designed by apple in california, etc.' |
| 18:14 |
asciilifeform |
aha |
| 18:14 |
asciilifeform |
'a1181' if anyone gives half a fuck. |
| 18:14 |
pete_dushenski |
for macbook air ? |
| 18:14 |
asciilifeform |
nah the other one. |
| 18:15 |
asciilifeform |
('air' has no high voltage supply to the panel, as it is from led era) |
| 18:15 |
pete_dushenski |
the airbook mac then ? |
| 18:15 |
asciilifeform |
the whateverthefuck the a1181 is. |
| 18:16 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook/specs/macbook-core-2-duo-2.4-black-13-early-2008-penryn-specs.html << it |
| 18:16 |
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| 18:16 |
pete_dushenski |
aha. brother had it. |
| 18:16 |
pete_dushenski |
i was 'pro' user, wouldn't touch this. |
| 18:17 |
asciilifeform |
i wouldn't either |
| 18:17 |
pete_dushenski |
wtf are you doing dinking around with one on the first place ? |
| 18:17 |
asciilifeform |
it is for pet |
| 18:17 |
pete_dushenski |
must be some kinda pet. |
| 18:17 |
asciilifeform |
used for many years, and will use until the chinese stop making parts |
| 18:18 |
mircea_popescu |
how does the cable wear anyway ? badly placed fan ? |
| 18:18 |
asciilifeform |
fatigue |
| 18:18 |
asciilifeform |
(it runs through the hinge) |
| 18:18 |
mircea_popescu |
fatigue from what |
| 18:18 |
mircea_popescu |
\it's not a fuciking bridge oh. |
| 18:18 |
mircea_popescu |
heh. |
| 18:18 |
asciilifeform |
open, close, open, close... |
| 18:19 |
asciilifeform |
this is the hv cable for the lamps |
| 18:21 |
asciilifeform |
everything about the box seemed to be ~designed~ to make repairs as miserable an affair as possible |
| 18:21 |
asciilifeform |
i'm kinda surprised they didn't fill the thing with glue and be done with it |
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| 18:22 |
jurov |
you forgot trotyl |
| 18:22 |
asciilifeform |
^ optional extra pheature |
| 18:22 |
asciilifeform |
iMine |
| 18:23 |
pete_dushenski |
iphn0e comes in gold casing for this precise reason |
| 18:24 |
mircea_popescu |
trotyl is more expensive than either the thing or the intended customer. |
| 18:24 |
asciilifeform |
^ |
| 18:24 |
pete_dushenski |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=19-11-2015#1327375 << cook reads logs, y'know |
| 18:24 |
assbot |
Logged on 19-11-2015 17:59:12; pete_dushenski: even place large quantity of gold in land mines. hell, make the land mines ~entirely~ out of gold. not like the yellow stuff has any better uses. |
| 18:25 |
* |
pete_dushenski is non-plussed by sequence of 'actual history' |
| 18:25 |
asciilifeform |
wut |
| 18:27 |
pete_dushenski |
the mines before phones or phones before mines thing |
| 18:27 |
mircea_popescu |
in other stories of fatigue, http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md7ystNmei1qziluwo1_1280.jpg |
| 18:28 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1MLyagM ) |
| 18:28 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu would enjoy 'hall of the singing caryatids' by v. pelevin |
| 18:28 |
asciilifeform |
(exists in engl even) |
| 18:28 |
asciilifeform |
it is about this picture. |
| 18:29 |
* |
mircea_popescu is more into the "Brothel of intellectual lusts" take on female degradation than the flimsy political apropos take. |
| 18:30 |
asciilifeform |
it's more of the former than the latter |
| 18:31 |
mircea_popescu |
i guess no two people ever can read the same book |
| 18:32 |
asciilifeform |
if i ever bother to do a w4r3z scan, they could... |
| 18:33 |
mircea_popescu |
i never saw much in it (and in pelevin generally) other than "oh if only the holy tenets of TRUE socialism hadn't been /intinate/ or however you say that in russian |
| 18:33 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: you gotta be thinking of some other fella |
| 18:33 |
mircea_popescu |
isn't this the book with lena the "poor her" whore and that schmuck doing dune "the voice" v2.0 ? |
| 18:34 |
asciilifeform |
voice? |
| 18:34 |
pete_dushenski |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-11-2015#1329816 << duly noted for second instalment of comic. if. when. |
| 18:34 |
assbot |
Logged on 22-11-2015 17:09:00; thestringpuller: "the wrath of alfdog" << great name for a hip hop album |
| 18:35 |
mircea_popescu |
;;google "the voice" in dune |
| 18:35 |
gribble |
Voice - Dune Wiki - Frank Herbert, David Lynch, Sandworms - Wikia: <http://dune.wikia.com/wiki/Voice>; Bene Gesserit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bene_Gesserit>; Dune (2000) - Lady Jessica using the voice against Stilgar - YouTube: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDHzDOWg9gw> |
| 18:39 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, i get it, an entire generation of disenfranchised young russians figure they're great chaps and the fault must be in the women empowering the old farts. |
| 18:39 |
mircea_popescu |
meanwhile... |
| 18:39 |
mircea_popescu |
whatever, i dun feel like getting into it. |
| 18:40 |
pete_dushenski |
too much work on the sabbath ? |
| 18:41 |
mircea_popescu |
too much rehash. what am i, openssl ? |
| 18:41 |
pete_dushenski |
http://theaviationist.com/2015/11/20/iriaf-f-14s-escort-ruaf-tu-95/ << spiffy video inside. |
| 18:41 |
assbot |
The Aviationist » Watch this video of Iranian F-14 Tomcats escorting a Russian Tu-95 bomber during air strike in Syria ... ( http://bit.ly/1MLA15f ) |
| 18:42 |
mircea_popescu |
do those things even do anything ? |
| 18:42 |
mircea_popescu |
"oh oh airstrike" "ok and ?" "we took out their outhouse!111" |
| 18:42 |
pete_dushenski |
mircea_popescu: i have nfi what you are no matter how hard i try. |
| 18:43 |
mircea_popescu |
here's a primer on airstrike efficiency : the brits did 7 (SEVEN!) mid-air refuellings for one of their rustbuckets to manage to drop ONE bomb on the one runway in the faulklands, "disabling" it |
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| 18:43 |
mircea_popescu |
except the argentines fixed it that same day, and used it to land hercules for the entire duration of the conflict. |
| 18:43 |
* |
pete_dushenski isn't sure that 'bear' is supposed to do anything. |
| 18:43 |
mircea_popescu |
cost about 150mn to tear down (without counting amortisation and hr costs) and about 18k to fix. |
| 18:44 |
pete_dushenski |
that's backasswards terrorism |
| 18:44 |
mircea_popescu |
well, the ~$65 in box cutters the terrorists spent did bring down a 8-10bn piece of real estate. |
| 18:45 |
pete_dushenski |
;;calc 9000000000/65 |
| 18:45 |
gribble |
138461538.462 |
| 18:46 |
pete_dushenski |
^healthy roi, that. |
| 18:46 |
pete_dushenski |
healthy *multiple |
| 18:47 |
pete_dushenski |
vs. |
| 18:47 |
pete_dushenski |
;;calc 18000/150000000 |
| 18:47 |
gribble |
0.00012 |
| 18:48 |
pete_dushenski |
one of these aggressors has too much money in their pockets, while the other knows full well the value of a dollar. |
| 18:50 |
mircea_popescu |
either that or possibly doesn't give a shit about caryatids. |
| 18:50 |
mircea_popescu |
defo one or the other. |
| 18:51 |
mircea_popescu |
supposedly (ro) intinate = (en) defiled, but im not too happy to it. tina is a derrogative for earth, soil. it's expected to be barren, powdery (but noit outright sand) and in generaly the equivalent of dirt. |
| 18:51 |
mircea_popescu |
intina is a verb, to en-dirt-y. |
| 18:53 |
pete_dushenski |
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjx5L_unKXJAhUCLYgKHf0-ClQQjBwIBA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fd%2Fd9%2FPorch_of_the_Caryatids_from_angle.JPG&psig=AFQjCNHy0iPIzC_1v0U8RVTk5KbZLGOW2g&ust=1448322636396145 << these caryatids ? |
| 18:53 |
assbot |
Redirect Notice ... ( http://bit.ly/1N70qhw ) |
| 18:53 |
pete_dushenski |
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d9/Porch_of_the_Caryatids_from_angle.JPG << |
| 18:53 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1N70tKj ) |
| 18:54 |
mircea_popescu |
i had a great pic up lemme see if i can ever find anything again in this smoldering pile of everything that's my blog |
| 18:54 |
mircea_popescu |
back in a week. |
| 18:56 |
* |
asciilifeform wonders if mircea_popescu read the book in a language he actually speaks |
| 18:56 |
mircea_popescu |
i think i read it in french |
| 19:02 |
mircea_popescu |
meh i can't find the happy dancing mantises. a well. |
| 19:02 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, what was in your copy, asciilifeform ? |
| 19:02 |
asciilifeform |
well i have an english transl. lying around |
| 19:03 |
asciilifeform |
perhaps will warez it once find my tripod and have a free shiva hand. |
| 19:03 |
mircea_popescu |
notrly the point is it ? |
| 19:04 |
pete_dushenski |
http://ashleys.co/image/133719961267 |
| 19:04 |
assbot |
wtf ily : Photo ... ( http://bit.ly/1MLDaC4 ) |
| 19:04 |
asciilifeform |
it's a short & very lulzy yarn and none of the psychiatric weird mircea_popescu mentioned was in it... |
| 19:04 |
asciilifeform |
pete_dushenski: wut |
| 19:04 |
mircea_popescu |
wait, is it actually a different story ? ie, not with these ? |
| 19:04 |
asciilifeform |
well, there was praying mantis involved |
| 19:05 |
punkman |
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/10/02/1412244775608_wps_21_Dancing_mantises_Two_pray.jpg |
| 19:05 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1MLDoZO ) |
| 19:05 |
pete_dushenski |
asciilifeform: the result of training idjits that their words are the most important thing and that yelling 'rape' makes the 'rapist' stop voluntarily if not arrested by the police |
| 19:07 |
pete_dushenski |
also, does anyone have a suggestion for viewing/using the tumblr dashboard that doesn't involve this latest invasion of spamz. every second fucking post is some derpy 'trending' meme that completely kills teh mood ! |
| 19:08 |
* |
asciilifeform doesn't have useful suggestions for viewing arsebook either |
| 19:08 |
asciilifeform |
or 'myspace', etc. |
| 19:08 |
asciilifeform |
why even. |
| 19:08 |
mircea_popescu |
punkman similar but no |
| 19:08 |
pete_dushenski |
because pr0nz |
| 19:08 |
asciilifeform |
the tards helpfully segregated themselves, why dig'em back up ? |
| 19:08 |
punkman |
asciilifeform: there is porn |
| 19:09 |
asciilifeform |
'this is a mousetrap.' 'bbbbutt there's cheeze!!11' |
| 19:10 |
punkman |
also describes computer |
| 19:10 |
pete_dushenski |
mousetrap grew up from nowhere seriously in last month. before that, fine. |
| 19:17 |
punkman |
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/3/12/1363096281744/18c47e23-73f4-4267-a10f-aa64e0dcef20-620x372.jpeg |
| 19:17 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1N73ryh ) |
| 19:19 |
punkman |
for BingoBoingo https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsnrMIRCIAEloK6.jpg |
| 19:19 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1N73Lx2 ) |
| 19:21 |
trinque |
oh dear. |
| 19:26 |
funkenstein_ |
lol we can file that cheese girl under "white are better" right? |
| 19:26 |
kakobrekla |
that is not eve cheese |
| 19:26 |
kakobrekla |
even* |
| 19:27 |
kakobrekla |
5% cheese, 95% plastic |
| 19:29 |
funkenstein_ |
well kako, at least labelled with only 26 characters like my fantasy of divine imagery |
| 19:30 |
pete_dushenski |
tripleslash: fix your connection wouldja |
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| 19:52 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96800 @ 0.00052051 = 50.3854 BTC [-] {4} |
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| 20:18 |
punkman |
http://cdn.static-economist.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/original-size/images/print-edition/20151121_WBC554.png |
| 20:18 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1NKACUP ) |
| 20:23 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23832 @ 0.00052109 = 12.4186 BTC [+] {2} |
| 20:23 |
pete_dushenski |
^that bar graph will be even lulzier in 50 years when those 'tech giants' 'go kodak' |
| 20:26 |
kakobrekla |
as it stands now, all ''german manufacturers' are using 'us tech' and no 'us tech firm' is using a 'german manufacturer' |
| 20:26 |
kakobrekla |
rounding errors are possible. |
| 20:28 |
pete_dushenski |
perhaps microshit notwithstanding, use != depend upon |
| 20:28 |
pete_dushenski |
there are ready replacements for apple, google, amazon, and facebook |
| 20:28 |
asciilifeform |
pete_dushenski found a replacement for apple ?!! |
| 20:29 |
asciilifeform |
pray tell ? |
| 20:29 |
asciilifeform |
is it a broomstick ? |
| 20:29 |
pete_dushenski |
this is from the perspective of 'deutschland manufaktur', recall |
| 20:30 |
pete_dushenski |
wtf does volkswagen need crapple for exactly ? |
| 20:31 |
asciilifeform |
if they were to attempt abandoning microshit - would be just as dependent on crapple. |
| 20:31 |
asciilifeform |
failing this, poettering. |
| 20:31 |
kakobrekla |
desktops for designing (with ps) and selling the outcome with ipads |
| 20:31 |
pete_dushenski |
yes, poettering, the 'us tech giant' |
| 20:32 |
asciilifeform |
omitting the x86 duopoly ? |
| 20:32 |
asciilifeform |
(soon to be intel monopoly) |
| 20:32 |
pete_dushenski |
we agree this is unlikely |
| 20:39 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00051665 = 4.3915 BTC [-] {2} |
| 20:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48726 @ 0.00051665 = 25.1743 BTC [-] {2} |
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| 21:15 |
mircea_popescu |
<kakobrekla> 5% cheese, 95% plastic << word. |
| 21:15 |
mircea_popescu |
fucking bs. |
| 21:18 |
mircea_popescu |
<kakobrekla> as it stands now, all ''german manufacturers' are using 'us tech' and no 'us tech firm' is using a 'german manufacturer' << you ever looked in the parking lot of these "tech giants" ? |
| 21:18 |
mircea_popescu |
not that many consumer choice 1983 lebarons out there. |
| 21:18 |
kakobrekla |
teslas or whatever 20 liter trucks? |
| 21:18 |
kakobrekla |
any remaining vw will get called off anyway |
| 21:19 |
mircea_popescu |
bout half euro imports. the rest japanese. |
| 21:19 |
mircea_popescu |
you can't drive a truck and be in tech, it's like being an efette wwf fan |
| 21:19 |
asciilifeform |
'tesla' is about as common as ferrari here. |
| 21:19 |
mircea_popescu |
you live with the bureaucrats not the technocrats alf. |
| 21:20 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway. v is for victory : http://41.media.tumblr.com/b8e2ec1effb6fd13da3882c99c832046/tumblr_meugfbluub1riedhko1_1280.jpg |
| 21:20 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1LuM7Oh ) |
| 21:20 |
kakobrekla |
so i google 'google parking lot' and get 'Google employee lives in a truck in the parking lot ' as first hit. |
| 21:21 |
mircea_popescu |
why don't you daimler google parking lot instead! |
| 21:22 |
asciilifeform |
!b 2 |
| 21:22 |
assbot |
Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2X5CAWK.txt ) |
| 21:22 |
asciilifeform |
l0l! |
| 21:22 |
asciilifeform |
i had these mousetraps. |
| 21:25 |
kakobrekla |
to be clear, by truck i mean the SUVs |
| 21:25 |
kakobrekla |
i thought rednecks drive that |
| 21:26 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah but redneck country is socal/burbank/bakersfield |
| 21:27 |
mircea_popescu |
whereas foogle/gashbook/bapple/etc are more like sf/bay area/fauntleroyland |
| 21:27 |
kakobrekla |
hm, ok. |
| 21:27 |
* |
asciilifeform turned down a gig there not long ago |
| 21:28 |
mircea_popescu |
bakersfield ? |
| 21:28 |
asciilifeform |
sfbay |
| 21:28 |
asciilifeform |
'tis cursed by the gods. |
| 21:28 |
mircea_popescu |
not more than shittington |
| 21:29 |
asciilifeform |
more. |
| 21:29 |
asciilifeform |
costs literally 5x per sq. metre vs here. |
| 21:29 |
* |
asciilifeform actually did the homework, even |
| 21:29 |
mircea_popescu |
what is it these days ? |
| 21:29 |
asciilifeform |
and they don't pay 5x. |
| 21:29 |
punkman |
but you could live on parking lot |
| 21:30 |
mircea_popescu |
you could couchsurf! |
| 21:30 |
mircea_popescu |
MAKE A NAME FOR YOURSELF! |
| 21:30 |
asciilifeform |
asked a phriend, he (with horrified face) said, 'people live differently in those parts. no one has a flat to himself, it's for extroverts, they pack'em 5+ in, they hang out in bars after the bell and only go home to sleep' |
| 21:31 |
mircea_popescu |
heh |
| 21:31 |
mircea_popescu |
extroverts my foot |
| 21:31 |
mircea_popescu |
i do not know one single sf extrovert. |
| 21:31 |
phf |
sf is nicer then dc though, they got a giant park with a view, and food is much better. (actual japanese and mexican foods) |
| 21:32 |
mircea_popescu |
it's all shellshocked/ptss mousy schmucks |
| 21:32 |
phf |
*than |
| 21:32 |
asciilifeform |
this is like asking if a man sitting on a stake is a catamite. |
| 21:32 |
asciilifeform |
from a certain pov - yes. |
| 21:32 |
mircea_popescu |
dude get the fuck out, missouri has a park with a view. |
| 21:32 |
mircea_popescu |
the whole fucking state. |
| 21:33 |
phf |
true, to be fair, anywhere is nicer then dc. i thought ascii was overly dramatic, but damn is this place bad. |
| 21:33 |
hanbot |
sf was great 15 yrs ago ;/ |
| 21:34 |
mircea_popescu |
why, cuz you were 16 ? |
| 21:34 |
mircea_popescu |
in house, bath and beyond news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/0a878994458181568604a97a6bd98726/tumblr_mer4e1Z66U1riedhko1_1280.jpg |
| 21:34 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1kP8FEu ) |
| 21:35 |
asciilifeform |
'great' means, without exception, that there is no meat within 40m of my chair that i didn't put there. |
| 21:35 |
hanbot |
well, it had good air. the panhandlers were entertaining. i was 16. |
| 21:36 |
mircea_popescu |
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/lifestyle/2013/11/01/next-steve-jobs-is-12-year-old-mexican-girl-wired-magazine-says/ << reading "the press" sixteen to thrity months later has some remarkable advantages. |
| 21:36 |
assbot |
The Next Steve Jobs Is A 12-Year-Old Mexican Girl, Wired Magazine Says | Fox News Latino ... ( http://bit.ly/1kP8NUw ) |
| 21:36 |
mircea_popescu |
for one thing - they aren't EVER right. |
| 21:36 |
mircea_popescu |
not like, 50-50 duds, like anyone throwing darts. |
| 21:36 |
mircea_popescu |
no, these schmucks manage to always be wrong. |
| 21:38 |
mircea_popescu |
everything in the us was much better in the 90s. buffett-style "i believe in america" merely sounded overoptimistic, hadn't yet caught this greenish hue of past-ridiculous senility like something found in a fridge on the side of a demolishing yard. |
| 21:38 |
mircea_popescu |
they made movies about how hey, "america gotta shape up soon". |
| 21:38 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah. right. |
| 21:39 |
asciilifeform |
hanbot: i bet it's perfectly livable at 500+k/y |
| 21:39 |
asciilifeform |
in sf. |
| 21:39 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2015/fuck-you-and-your-stupid-epub-also-david-thornes-2nd-book-it-isnt-really-very-good/#selection-5421.0-5421.76 << thorne mocking the shit out of wired/steven hartleck is pretty entertainment |
| 21:39 |
assbot |
Fuck you and your stupid epub. Also, David Thorne's 2nd book (it isn't really very good). on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LuN21d ) |
| 21:39 |
asciilifeform |
or if you're an ant. |
| 21:40 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14776 @ 0.00051086 = 7.5485 BTC [-] |
| 21:40 |
mircea_popescu |
if you're going to throw half a million a year on living expenses why the fuck would you not just rent a raj palace in india and install human powered ac. |
| 21:41 |
phf |
ben_vulpes: just to clarify, literal translation would be that i can talk without censoring myself. but mp explained the actual meaning, that i'm not quite sure how to put in words better. it's something like, can talk on point, without revisions on account of this or that. |
| 21:41 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: just so |
| 21:42 |
asciilifeform |
antarctica would also weigh something like 500 but for different reasons |
| 21:42 |
asciilifeform |
point was what it takes to make a particular godforsaken shithole livable. |
| 21:43 |
hanbot |
asciilifeform by now, i dunno. old friend is about there, relegated to san jose armpit, and last i checked the only thing in his house was a box of cheezeits. |
| 21:43 |
mircea_popescu |
actually most of siberia/alaska are pretty much rent free and from what i hear rather enjoyable. |
| 21:43 |
mircea_popescu |
for the man with the skills, of course. |
| 21:43 |
asciilifeform |
if you like your electron microscope made from bear skin and powered by seal fat - then yes! |
| 21:46 |
mircea_popescu |
my problem is more in line with "nobody's gonna fucking shave her snatch at 30 below", but yeah. |
| 21:48 |
mircea_popescu |
in other news, a "368 page book" reads in a coupla hours, and consists of 90% recycled website material + some letters from weird. |
| 21:48 |
mircea_popescu |
"new york times best seller list" items are radically not worth cutting down the trees. |
| 21:49 |
asciilifeform |
wai wut |
| 21:49 |
asciilifeform |
that turd was 'best seller' ?! |
| 21:49 |
punkman |
the previous book was |
| 21:49 |
mircea_popescu |
the epub thing |
| 21:50 |
mircea_popescu |
and for that matter wgat's his name, the guy with short fingers that quit duke lawschool ? |
| 21:50 |
asciilifeform |
speaking of alaska/siberia/etc, i hear ru now has a 'homestead act' |
| 21:50 |
mircea_popescu |
then made a horrible movie |
| 21:50 |
punkman |
tucker max |
| 21:50 |
mircea_popescu |
;;google the guy with short fingers that quit duke lawschool and made a horrible movie |
| 21:50 |
gribble |
Full text of "I Hope They Serve Beer In Hell" - Internet Archive: <https://archive.org/stream/IHopeTheyServeBeerInHell/TuckerMax-IHopeTheyServeBeerInHellebook-OcrPdf_djvu.txt>; The Now Infamous Charity Auction Debacle « TuckerMax.com: <http://tuckermax.com/stories/the-now-infamous-charity-auction-debacle/>; A Man for All Seasons (1966) - Quotes - IMDb: (1 more message) |
| 21:50 |
asciilifeform |
they're handing out 1hectar/man, with the proviso that it cannot be sold |
| 21:50 |
BingoBoingo |
<mircea_popescu> dude get the fuck out, missouri has a park with a view. << Truefax. There's even a tiny tram you can ride to the top of the Arch for more view |
| 21:50 |
mircea_popescu |
check out google on the ball! |
| 21:50 |
punkman |
wow |
| 21:51 |
hanbot |
ahaha |
| 21:51 |
mircea_popescu |
apparently my native oop is intuitively alligned with google sql |
| 21:51 |
mircea_popescu |
BEAT THAT! |
| 21:51 |
BingoBoingo |
;;google Times Beach |
| 21:51 |
gribble |
Times Beach, Missouri - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Times_Beach,_Missouri>; Ill Fated Times Beach, Missouri - Legends of America: <http://www.legendsofamerica.com/mo-timesbeach.html>; S/R 7-8: The Times Beach Story (Marilyn Leistner): <http://www.greens.org/s-r/078/07-09.html> |
| 21:51 |
BingoBoingo |
^ also a park nao |
| 21:51 |
asciilifeform |
https://www.rt.com/politics/224099-russia-land-free-east << it, i think |
| 21:51 |
assbot |
Homestead Act for Russian Far East – Putin supports free land handout — RT Russian politics ... ( http://bit.ly/1kP9MUS ) |
| 21:52 |
mircea_popescu |
aha. |
| 21:52 |
mircea_popescu |
been like that forever. also iirc alaska still has homestead here and there. |
| 21:52 |
punkman |
from the cellar department: Suntory Yamazaki 12yo, seriously smooth https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/3a/db/10/3adb107d83b463eb1ac96e792b5eeb77.jpg |
| 21:52 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1kP9Rb1 ) |
| 21:52 |
asciilifeform |
folks who enjoy blowing the permafrost with ammonal to dig latrine - know where to do. |
| 21:53 |
asciilifeform |
to go. |
| 21:53 |
mircea_popescu |
o ffs. japanese whiskey ? |
| 21:53 |
asciilifeform |
l0l! |
| 21:53 |
mircea_popescu |
why. |
| 21:53 |
asciilifeform |
what next, french seppuku ? |
| 21:53 |
asciilifeform |
german bukkake ? |
| 21:53 |
mircea_popescu |
i guess we should be thankful grain at least grew in that shitty island. |
| 21:53 |
punkman |
because jp otaku |
| 21:53 |
mircea_popescu |
otherwise it'd be "WOOD ALCOHOL!!!11" all over. |
| 21:55 |
BingoBoingo |
<mircea_popescu> o ffs. japanese whiskey ? << I knew I picked a good time to try sobriety |
| 21:56 |
punkman |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2UHiXwfnvk |
| 21:56 |
assbot |
Sean Connery , Suntory Crest, before the meeting commercial - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1LuO7pU ) |
| 21:57 |
* |
BingoBoingo is convinced real whiskey is only made by people with pickup trucks or tartans |
| 21:58 |
phf |
men whisky(tm)(r) |
| 21:58 |
mircea_popescu |
isn't ammonal about on par with black powder, in the sense that if it gets wet you can go salt your food with it ? |
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| 22:00 |
asciilifeform |
tell this to gulag |
| 22:00 |
asciilifeform |
(quite possibly true, i have not used it personally) |
| 22:05 |
punkman |
well, I'm no malt connoisseur but I'd put it right next to similarly-priced scottish bottles |
| 22:11 |
BingoBoingo |
Scotch is "warm-up" whiskey to get the palate primed for rye whiskey followed by all of the cheap bourbon |
| 22:12 |
punkman |
saw a bottle of this in my travels, lol'd https://365oranges.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/ron-de-jeremy.jpg |
| 22:12 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1LuP4hP ) |
| 22:17 |
BingoBoingo |
http://www.seriouseats.com/images/20110218oldcrowstory.jpg << The good stuff |
| 22:17 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1kPbHIN ) |
| 22:19 |
BingoBoingo |
"Hear hear. When you buy Old Crow, you know what you're getting. Old Crow is not a night on the town with a beautiful young debutante. Old Crow is not a conversation with a craggy and learned professor. Old Crow is half an hour in a motel room with a fifty year-old prostitute who maybe doesn't look like much but still gets the job done, dammit, and sometimes that's all you want. Sometimes that's exactly what you want." |
| 22:22 |
BingoBoingo |
From another review: "It smells very heavily of alcohol first off, but the taste is surprisingly sweet, like candy corn and pears (but mostly bourbon:)... It is my go-to whisky, and being a Kentuckian of discerning taste, I'd like to think that says something towards it's character. Two of Ulysses S. Grant's fellow Generals were said to have complained to Lincoln personally of Grant's drunkenness and it's detriment in the line of |
| 22:22 |
BingoBoingo |
duty. Of this, Lincoln famously wrote back, saying: "By the way, gentlemen, can either of you tell me where General Grant procures his whiskey?"" |
| 22:22 |
phf |
"came home last night full'a fifth of old crow |
| 22:24 |
assbot |
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| 22:27 |
mircea_popescu |
munca si lumina! http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhxrh6pprt1qbujxso1_1280.jpg |
| 22:27 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1kPcoSD ) |
| 22:27 |
BingoBoingo |
lol |
| 22:28 |
asciilifeform |
wut |
| 22:29 |
asciilifeform |
wazzis, abortion pr0n ? |
| 22:29 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform recall the old dinamo flashlights ? |
| 22:29 |
asciilifeform |
aha! |
| 22:29 |
asciilifeform |
cunt-actuated ? |
| 22:29 |
mircea_popescu |
in romanian - work&light. |
| 22:29 |
* |
asciilifeform takes off hat |
| 22:29 |
mircea_popescu |
we can presume. |
| 22:29 |
mircea_popescu |
cuntactuation. |
| 22:30 |
asciilifeform |
mm |
| 22:30 |
mircea_popescu |
like that famous roman general, cuntactor. |
| 22:32 |
deedbot- |
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asciilifeform |
spiffy pet in pic |
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assbot |
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oglafbot |
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| 23:42 |
assbot |
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danielpbarron |
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assbot |
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