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00:23 pete_dushenski buonasera
00:24 pete_dushenski ;;ticker
00:24 gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 381.41, Best ask: 381.55, Bid-ask spread: 0.14000, Last trade: 381.55, 24 hour volume: 86175.43226322, 24 hour low: 330.75, 24 hour high: 379.9, 24 hour vwap: None
00:24 pete_dushenski this is almost starting to look like a breakout eh
00:25 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-11-2015#1313409 << hehehe not ~actually~
00:25 assbot Logged on 01-11-2015 22:53:50; ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-11-2015#1313062 << waitasec he actually named the boy this ?
00:26 pete_dushenski it's no different than calling your friend 'aces' because when you play poker he somehow always have pocket rockets. tis just a nickname.
00:28 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1313503 << np!
00:28 assbot Logged on 02-11-2015 03:09:05; BingoBoingo: ty pete_dushenski
00:30 pete_dushenski ;;later tell ben_vulpes heyo any measurements on the little v-man to report ? length, weight, etc. ?
00:30 gribble The operation succeeded.
00:31 pete_dushenski "My naïve Tesla "buy" call was predicated on the American green fetish at the time" << did you actually pick up some shares or just 'recommend' ?
00:33 pete_dushenski "The worst thing that can happen to a man is for him to invest speculatively as a sideline and for it to work. He then runs the risk of considering himself a good investor." << hardly the worst thing that can happen to a man. depends entirely on what he does with his self-confidence as an investor
00:35 pete_dushenski does he go to the casino and play lotteries because he thinks 'i can't lose!' or does he bury his fortunate treasure until something equally magnificent to whatever succeeded the first time around comes around again, IF it comes around again.
00:36 pete_dushenski so i score a hole-in-one at the golf course and think myself a good golfer now, worst case scenario is i buy a few rounds of beer and boast for a few weeks/months, maybe biting off a bit more than i can chew in a few subsequent matches, but the afterglow will soon fade
00:37 pete_dushenski it's self-correcting. the 'good investor' will come to see himself as having been fortunate THAT ONCE
00:37 pete_dushenski unless, i grant, he's a raving narcissistic lunatic. in which case all bets are off anyways
00:38 pete_dushenski I have only seen conspicuous consumers and Apple fanboys wearing the things. << i've seen exactly two young men wearing the apple watch. exactly two. "no one could've predicted!"
00:39 pete_dushenski butbutbut 'wearable tech is teh future and stuff'
00:39 pete_dushenski no, your replacing your laptop with a LEASED mini-ipad/phone is the future. and here we are.
00:40 pete_dushenski feels like we never even left, doesn't it.
00:41 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1313561 << read virgil's eclogues if you haven't already.
00:41 assbot Logged on 02-11-2015 03:41:07; mircea_popescu: i find the pastoral images soothing
00:42 pete_dushenski i found it a bit dull but hey, to each his own.
00:42 pete_dushenski though farm life does hold some appeal
00:43 pete_dushenski unfortunately around here that's readily muddled with 'acreage life', which it basically ten x 12-acre plots per 'subdivision' where each family has a mid-sized house and a big field for storing their camping trailers/skidoos
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01:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00054514 = 10.2486 BTC [+] {3}
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01:20 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1313568 << 'my wife's not in labour, labour's in my wife'
01:20 assbot Logged on 02-11-2015 03:48:22; ben_vulpes: i'm not interested in it, it's interested in me.
01:23 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1313617 << lulzy imagery to call kneepads, shinpads, elbow pads, shoulder pads, wrist guards, neck braces all 'helmets'
01:23 assbot Logged on 02-11-2015 04:06:09; mircea_popescu: next thing you know wife gets too confident of her position and the kid's covered in helmets.
01:26 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1313759 << imo it's 50x ~less~ believable now that eth has ~anyone~ interested whatsoever. much less anyone with a few hundred btc to their credit.
01:26 assbot Logged on 02-11-2015 06:55:59; mircea_popescu: supposedly there exist suckers buying into this. like supposedly there existed suckers buying into the original "sale". right-o.
01:27 pete_dushenski unless other scam/altcoiners are dropping their other bags and grabbing for eth, lol
01:28 pete_dushenski speaking of which... eth: Last Price 0.00287685 24hr Change -13.38%
01:28 pete_dushenski g-g-g-g-g-gooooooold
01:29 pete_dushenski hey 216 btc riding on that wager. decent.
01:33 pete_dushenski and in the latest bitcoin bloodbath, even the mighty maidsafecoin is coming back down to earth. pretty much ipo level nao and nowhere to go but down.
01:35 BingoBoingo Dis racis http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/11/02/death_rates_up_among_poor_middle_aged_whites_suicide_alcohol_drugs_factors.html
01:35 assbot Death rates up among poor, middle-aged whites: Suicide, alcohol, drugs factors. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Piys2J )
01:37 pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/2014/04/20/the-brokenness-of-maidsafe/ << really brings back the memories. *sniff*
01:37 assbot The Brokenness of MaidSafe | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1RrkRW7 )
01:37 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo mebbe tlp became a statistic
01:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41250 @ 0.00053954 = 22.256 BTC [-] {4}
01:42 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1314023 << this is so totally a meme nao
01:42 assbot Logged on 02-11-2015 17:32:44; ascii_field: the no-dick system
01:43 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski you mean one million or whatever bs volume it had this month
01:44 pete_dushenski aha that
01:51 mircea_popescu "A scripting language modifies a working system to do certain additional tasks or existing tasks differently and cannot exist without the working system. A programming language builds a working system from scratch." << cute.
01:51 mircea_popescu i understand what the author would like to be true, but seriously...
01:51 mircea_popescu parsed vs compiled is a thing. other than that...
01:54 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1314202 << only worms eat dirt, only everyone has a smartphone
01:54 assbot Logged on 02-11-2015 20:53:47; trinque: "only" is perhaps not the best term to use to describe the majority
01:56 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
01:56 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 370.05, vol: 53833.04812030 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 344.887, vol: 30171.45306 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 372.45, vol: 99475.03302234 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 370.0, vol: 10.94258278 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 387.7146, vol: 87337.13630000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 367.0, vol: 284.82821041 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 358.4425, vol: 233.20731221 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
01:56 BingoBoingo ;;more
01:56 gribble 373.804381771
01:58 mircea_popescu such signal.
02:01 BingoBoingo Many signal
02:12 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314382 << nowai ! i dun struck oil !!
02:12 assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 01:54:37; BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2015/11/000webhost-penetrated-13-million-plaintext-passwords-compromised/#comment-72691
02:12 BingoBoingo seriously congrats pete_dushenski
02:12 pete_dushenski ;)
02:13 BingoBoingo May Pantagruel comfort you in your sleep with cries of praise and hunger
02:14 pete_dushenski now there's a prayer for a wicked soul
02:14 pete_dushenski speaking of wicked souls, goethe's faust is giving me the chills atm !
02:15 pete_dushenski though i can probably chalk a fair bit of that to listening to the exquisitely performed audiobook recording while walking through the creepy, empty river valley in the early evening.
02:16 pete_dushenski it's strange having sunset at 5pm.
02:17 pete_dushenski the sun sets after 10pm in june here (53.5* north latitude)
02:18 BingoBoingo I prefer it to what happens in the spring with the mornings
02:20 pete_dushenski being...
02:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13816 @ 0.00054693 = 7.5564 BTC [+] {2}
02:22 BingoBoingo dark an hour later suddenly
02:22 BingoBoingo There is no need for an extra hour of sunlight in the summer evening, let the dark comfort and cloak our depravities
02:23 pete_dushenski eh i'm fond of the late, long summer evenings.
02:24 pete_dushenski you can golf until after 10:30 !
02:28 punkman http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1314104 << I got the error popup but also the "save file" dialog, and it worked http://kb.mozillazine.org/Source_file_could_not_be_read
02:28 assbot Logged on 02-11-2015 19:05:41; ascii_field: does anyone else find that http://www.loper-os.org/pub/mpi/mpi.tar.gz.sig will NOT download in any ver of firefox ?
02:28 assbot Source file could not be read - MozillaZine Knowledge Base ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q300uA )
02:28 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: You can golf in the dark
02:29 BingoBoingo Ads an element of challenge
02:33 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314589 << that's *so* cool
02:33 assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 03:53:46; asciilifeform: http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/gyQAAOSwlaxWNsi8/s-l1600.jpg << yes, that's cast iron.
02:33 deedbot- [Qntra] Ransomware Ring Busted, "Decryptors" Rushed by Adware Vendors - http://qntra.net/2015/11/ransomware-ring-busted-decryptors-rushed-by-adware-vendors/
02:35 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314616 << you don't name your desktops ? weird...
02:35 assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 04:11:28; mircea_popescu: they have fucking names and people sleep with them in bed.
02:36 pete_dushenski fuck, even my ibm model m has a name 'round the house : richard a.k.a. dick, for the persistant annoyance obv.
02:38 punkman human names for inanimate objects always strike me as odd, also no computars allowed in the bedroom
02:38 pete_dushenski http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3299487/The-world-s-robot-actress-Talking-android-fitted-human-face-given-star-role-Japanese-nuclear-disaster-film.html << biz. are.
02:38 assbot Robot 'actress' Geminoid F is given star role in Japanese film Sayonara | Daily Mail Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1izJOCF )
02:39 pete_dushenski punkman computars in every room ! and chickens in every stove !
02:39 pete_dushenski and yea, naming's not for everyone.
02:40 * pete_dushenski recalls famous top gear botswana special where hammond names his opel 'oliver', to much razzing from may and clarkson.
02:41 pete_dushenski iirc it was an opel kadett
02:41 * pete_dushenski checks... kadett it was
02:44 * pete_dushenski to sleep
02:50 punkman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOzfq9Egxeo
02:50 assbot The Station Night Club Fire (GRAPHIC) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1izL0Wu )
02:55 punkman http://wpri.com/2015/10/31/us-nightclub-fire-victims-lament-deadly-romanian-blaze/
02:55 assbot Station nightclub fire victims lament deadly Romanian blaze | WPRI 12 Eyewitness News ... ( http://bit.ly/1izLoo2 )
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03:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52350 @ 0.00054731 = 28.6517 BTC [+] {2}
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03:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57200 @ 0.00055736 = 31.881 BTC [+] {4}
03:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76000 @ 0.00054463 = 41.3919 BTC [-] {3}
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05:12 punkman http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314443 << I think it can handle arbitrary bytestrings
05:12 assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 02:37:49; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my original 'v' relied on python's 're' (regexp) widget, and will prolly fall down if looked at with evil eye
05:13 BingoBoingo For some definitions of arbitrary it seems
05:16 punkman http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314463 << not uncommon, using object as a dictionary
05:16 assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 02:49:23; ben_vulpes: punkman: https://github.com/pgbovine/CDE/blob/master/scripts/package_completer.py#L39
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05:35 BingoBoingo http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/jury-says-harris-stowe-discriminated-awards-dismissed-white-instructor-nearly/article_a72e6120-e535-597b-b5e8-dedaa64386bf.html
05:35 assbot Jury says Harris-Stowe discriminated, awards dismissed white instructor nearly $5 million : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1k7kcyE )
05:47 jurov https://twitter.com/ken_lunde/status/661351862155669506
05:48 jurov ^ U+20BF BITCOIN SIGN will be included in unicode
05:48 adlai who knew unicode committee insider buying could be so powerful
05:48 jurov lol "It's uninspired and ungracious."
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06:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46150 @ 0.00054148 = 24.9893 BTC [-] {3}
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06:45 davout maybe designing the bitcoin unicode symbol is a problem fit for hearn and gavin, would keep them busy at least
06:45 davout debate whether more vertical bars are needed for increased adoption
06:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73600 @ 0.00054232 = 39.9148 BTC [+]
06:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 142400 @ 0.00054006 = 76.9045 BTC [-] {4}
06:58 jurov no!! need horizontal bars for stabileety!!!1
07:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 164150 @ 0.00053756 = 88.2405 BTC [-] {6}
07:04 adlai radiating bars, representing hubs and spokes, heavy nodes and litehead wallets
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07:20 deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.06520684 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $800 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1219/bitcoin-to-top-800-before-jan-2016/#b5
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07:46 punkman http://www.kbtx.com/home/headlines/Man-Loses-Hand-During-Fight-Outside-Bryan-Nightclub--339487572.html
07:46 assbot Man Loses Hand During Fight Outside Bryan Nightclub ... ( http://bit.ly/1P7xx6P )
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08:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65500 @ 0.00053601 = 35.1087 BTC [-] {4}
08:43 punkman https://instagram.com/p/oc4moYtDUF/ instagramslut "quits" social media
08:43 assbot Social Media Is Not Real Life on Instagram: “Was paid $400 to post a dress. That's when I had maybe 150k followers, with half a million followers, I know of many online brands (with big budgets) that pay up to $2000 per post. Nothing is wrong with accepting brand deals. I just think it should be k ... ( http://bit.ly/1RNN4X7 )
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09:10 jurov in other news, https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-JDCSkko1XEA/VjiZ19x8Z9I/AAAAAAAAWxQ/ArK1W20Vhwc/w480-h265-no/tumblr_ngoksdqbxs1qaqx8xo1_500.gif
09:10 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1RNUYQf )
09:24 davout jurov: lol
09:25 davout i can do the same with my c0ck
09:28 asciilifeform http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/11/an-exit-strategy-for-traitors.html << orlol (guest article)
09:28 assbot ClubOrlov: An Exit Strategy for Traitors ... ( http://bit.ly/1RO09zG )
09:30 asciilifeform 'Everything about this development bears the hallmarks of a military/intelligence operation... Ask yourself, why would millions of men (the overwhelming majority are young men) suddenly and collectively decide to leave their families behind, leave their country, travel thousands of miles and head for either Germany, Austria or Sweden, ignoring all the other safe countries on the way? Who told them that this would be worth it?
09:30 asciilifeform Where did they all get the money to pay for it? Why was there absolutely no effort at any border to stop them? Why did this not start earlier? ... look at the character of the average “refugee.” Why are they all well-fed, well-clothed, self-confident young men showing no signs of stress or hardship? ... Why do they all own high-quality mobile phones charged with seemingly endless minutes? It is clear that the “refugees
09:30 asciilifeform ” have been briefed on exactly what kinds of social benefits they can demand, and how to go about doing it, and so they are audacious and become violent if met with resistance.'
09:30 asciilifeform 'Germany's vice chancellor Sigmar Gabriel, who called an undefined but large part of the German populace who dare to oppose this insanity “Pack” (vermin).'
09:31 asciilifeform 'Vacant houses and apartments are confiscated by force and given over to the “refugees” free of charge. Every “refugee” given rental housing is paid for by the communities, as much as 500 Euros per person per month.'
09:33 asciilifeform most lulzily,
09:33 asciilifeform 'I have heard from several people connected to European security circles that the illegal weapons market is completely sold out, with many dealers holding on to their weapons for their own personal use. This is a rumour, but since we have been forced to depend on hearsay for any real information right now, I tend to believe it.'
09:35 asciilifeform so usg has decided to prolong own life by feeding germany the kosovo pill.
09:38 asciilifeform meanwhile finland hands out free moneyz to orcs, http://yle.fi/uutiset/kela_to_prepare_basic_income_proposal/8422295
09:38 assbot Kela to prepare basic income proposal | Yle Uutiset | yle.fi ... ( http://bit.ly/1RO2ydr )
09:43 asciilifeform ;;later tell punkman http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314700 << didja verify the sig? the download often reports as successful but is in fact truncated
09:43 assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 07:28:49; punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1314104 << I got the error popup but also the "save file" dialog, and it worked http://kb.mozillazine.org/Source_file_could_not_be_read
09:43 gribble The operation succeeded.
09:43 asciilifeform somehow people are missing the significance of this find
09:44 asciilifeform at one point, the net mostly... worked.
09:44 asciilifeform whereas today, it is divided into two segments, of unknown proportions, only one of which works as described...
09:45 asciilifeform and if it is a browser issue, it appears to affect all civilized browsers of the graphical variety
09:45 asciilifeform but why break your brain, only a terrorist!!1111!!11 would download a pgp sig!
09:46 asciilifeform meanwhile,
09:46 asciilifeform 'The court sentenced the defendant to custody of the Bureau of Prisons for a period of 78 months. This term consists of terms of 78 months on each of Counts One, Two, and Three, all counts to be served concurrently. Upon release from custody, the defendant shall be placed on a term of supervised release for a period of 3 years. This term consists of terms of 3 years on each of Counts One, Two, and Three, all such terms to run
09:46 asciilifeform concurrently. The defendant is ordered to pay a special assessment in the amount of $300, which shall be due immediately. The defendant shall pay Restitution in the amount of $340,000. The court did not impose a fine.'
09:46 asciilifeform (carl force)
09:46 asciilifeform or hm, this was qntra'd already, nm.
09:47 adlai ah, but ross has to serve his life sentenses in series
09:47 kakobrekla concurrently ??
09:47 kakobrekla he should have gotten more cores.
09:47 adlai Corrections 2.0
09:47 asciilifeform adlai: this was re: carl force. which i somehow slept through.
09:47 kakobrekla "can i bring a few friends and we sit out the years in a month?"
09:48 adlai asciilifeform: well i slept through the fact that his sentences sleep through eachother!
09:49 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314722 << in the american version of this (the famous 'station fire') there was some fella who survived ~at the bottom of~ the human plug in the only exit - by being drenched in the piss from the bodies above him.
09:49 assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 07:55:04; punkman: http://wpri.com/2015/10/31/us-nightclub-fire-victims-lament-deadly-romanian-blaze/
09:49 asciilifeform leidenfrost effect.
09:50 asciilifeform so the '$64k question', was there a 'piss man' in bucharest ?
09:52 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314735 << usg wants a convenient three-byte marker for intel's hw rootkit to grep your ram for. any questions?
09:52 assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 10:48:21; jurov: ^ U+20BF BITCOIN SIGN will be included in unicode
09:53 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314662 << no handoutz for these 'untermenschen', move along.
09:53 assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 06:35:06; BingoBoingo: Dis racis http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/11/02/death_rates_up_among_poor_middle_aged_whites_suicide_alcohol_drugs_factors.html
09:54 jurov "BTC" or "XBT" is not convenient enough?
09:54 asciilifeform ask them, not me...
09:55 adlai too many false positives in --armor blocks
09:55 punkman asciilifeform: it was really odd seeing all those people stuck in front door and others trying unsuccessfully to pull them out of the human pile
09:55 punkman (in Station fire video)
09:55 asciilifeform punkman: cattle men at their best
09:56 asciilifeform i still can't fathom why anybody with half a brain would voluntarily set foot in such a place
09:56 punkman also interesting how fast the thick black smoke started pouring out of every orifice
09:56 asciilifeform it is one thing to sit in, e.g., crowded train or lift, gotta get to that point B from your point A
09:56 asciilifeform quite another to voluntarily pack into a crematorium
09:58 punkman http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314768 << checked the downloaded file, looked intact
09:58 assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 14:43:34; asciilifeform: ;;later tell punkman http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314700 << didja verify the sig? the download often reports as successful but is in fact truncated
09:58 asciilifeform punkman: what browser ?
09:58 punkman Firefox
09:59 asciilifeform ~which~ firefox
09:59 adlai /usr/bin/firefox
09:59 asciilifeform l0l
09:59 punkman some newish version :P
10:00 asciilifeform i would not be much surprised to discover that plaintext matching the description of a gpg sig is being silently massaged, at random, somewhere in the backbonez.
10:01 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314643 << can't wait for the massive lease termination penalty for 'jailbreak' etc.
10:01 assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 05:39:59; pete_dushenski: no, your replacing your laptop with a LEASED mini-ipad/phone is the future. and here we are.
10:02 asciilifeform see also thread http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=27-10-2015#1308889
10:02 assbot Logged on 27-10-2015 15:37:12; asciilifeform: another was 'you open the box and the gasenwagen comes ten minutes later.' this was at one point considered practical but the proliferation of cheap hardware retired it.
10:02 punkman http://www.pcworld.com/article/3000637/security/winner-claimed-in-1-million-ios-9-hacking-contest.html
10:02 assbot Winner claimed in $1 million iOS 9 hacking contest | PCWorld ... ( http://bit.ly/1PjqWVr )
10:02 asciilifeform laundry.
10:03 asciilifeform (transfer of usg moneys from one pot to another)
10:03 asciilifeform no street plebe ever has or could win these 'contests.'
10:04 asciilifeform (picture what would happen if you sent them a 'winning entry')
10:05 * asciilifeform bbl.
10:10 * adlai wonders why http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20151031/README_eaf469e31cfaeaaed889fc295c1221c096b3e1bb.txt sha1sums to c27844e8ed5e125fecffe727a777d17ea2930a12
10:10 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1PjrNFA )
10:20 thestringpuller ;;ticker
10:20 gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 390.58, Best ask: 390.7, Bid-ask spread: 0.12000, Last trade: 390.61, 24 hour volume: 122790.98133868, 24 hour low: 337.6, 24 hour high: 398.0, 24 hour vwap: None
10:20 thestringpuller volatility round two
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11:01 adlai jurov: how does one massage ml messages to hash correctly? eg, `curl http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20151101/attachment_14afbbebdbd4ba8de2d22b26f539cd468a3e71cd.txt|sha1sum` returns 550b8afdb75a1f8c682cb545eb2c8941e2584c29
11:02 adlai discrepancy never noticed on attachments past the first attachment_deadbeef.txt, but noticed on every first one checked
11:03 * adlai might also be on the wrong side of http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=03-11-2015#1314773
11:03 assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 14:44:31; asciilifeform: whereas today, it is divided into two segments, of unknown proportions, only one of which works as described...
11:12 deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 5.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin to top $400 before January 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1170/bitcoin-to-top-400-before-january-2016/#b40
11:12 deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin to top $400 before January 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1170/bitcoin-to-top-400-before-january-2016/#b41
11:22 phf adlai: you might have an extra newline there
11:23 * adlai tried adding/removing strategic newlines, as well as s/=/=3D/
11:23 * adlai did not spend more than ~15 minutes guessing at these
11:24 phf notmuch show --format=mbox thread:000000000000999c |awk '// { if(p) { print } } /-----BEGIN/ { if(!p) print; p=1;} /-----END/ { p=0 }'|xxd > a; curl http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20151101/attachment_14afbbebdbd4ba8de2d22b26f539cd468a3e71cd.txt > b; diff a b
11:24 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LKLLqj )
11:24 phf ^- shows that attachment_ has \x0a\x0a at the end, where's my awk based extract only adds one
11:25 phf (that second curl is missing |xxd, but you get the general idea)
11:26 * adlai only gets one trailing #xA from curl!?
11:28 phf ...
11:28 jurov adlai interesting
11:28 phf welcome to modern computing
11:29 phf 0000600: 2d0a 0a -..
11:29 phf ^- is the tail end of that curl
11:30 adlai ok, that one gives me the same. the ones that I checked (mod6's V, mpi-genesis) did not.
11:31 adlai but none of them sha1sum to the filename
11:31 adlai signatures are correct, so at some level this is masturbation
11:32 phf well, you can just pipe them into xxd and then diff the result
11:33 * adlai has exceeded his daily allotment of manual sha1 preimage mining
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11:49 jurov !t m x.eur
11:49 assbot [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.00351697 / 0.00351697 / 0.00351697 (40 shares, 0.14 BTC), 7D: 0.0035 / 0.00357296 / 0.00383564 (1482 shares, 5.30 BTC), 30D: 0.0035 / 0.00418695 / 0.00469539 (7480 shares, 31.32 BTC)
11:49 jurov ;;calc 1/0.0035
11:49 gribble 285.714285714
11:49 jurov O.o
11:50 jurov ;;ticker --currency eur --market bitcoin-central
11:50 gribble Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 355.0, Best ask: 360.0, Bid-ask spread: 5.00000, Last trade: 355.0, 24 hour volume: 373.30829898, 24 hour low: 293.5, 24 hour high: 365.0, 24 hour vwap: 325.80944611
11:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23300 @ 0.00053495 = 12.4643 BTC [-] {5}
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12:21 funkenstein_ mod6 ,thanks for the script :D
12:22 funkenstein_ also in "noob learning V ropes" news, patches for parousal: http://frass.woodcoin.org/dev/
12:22 assbot Index of /dev ... ( http://bit.ly/1kpxFRS )
12:22 funkenstein_ *perusal
12:23 adlai now that's a coin i haven't seen in a long time
12:24 * adlai just a couple days ago discussed finite vs indefinite disinflation, mentioned woodcoin, eyebrows were raised
12:24 funkenstein_ :D
12:25 funkenstein_ http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314662 <-- reminded me of http://www.theonion.com/article/study-depression-hits-losers-hardest-924
12:25 assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 06:35:06; BingoBoingo: Dis racis http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/11/02/death_rates_up_among_poor_middle_aged_whites_suicide_alcohol_drugs_factors.html
12:25 assbot Study: Depression Hits Losers Hardest - The Onion - America's Finest News Source ... ( http://bit.ly/1RsNXnY )
12:25 adlai phun phact, the onion is totally wrong on this. depression is worst when baseless.
12:26 funkenstein_ aha, good point.. more "clinical" then i suppose
12:29 funkenstein_ "spend your remaining years raising some woman's children by another man" <-- /me would consider this a compliment of highest order
12:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62800 @ 0.00053487 = 33.5898 BTC [-] {2}
12:37 trinque funkenstein_: in which direction?
12:39 funkenstein_ trinque, meaning, if you want my behaviors implanted on future generations... you must have some respect for those who shaped mine, etc.
12:47 trinque funkenstein_: perhaps. given though that having children is already likely -ev, bringing biological conflict into the balance would seem to make it more so.
12:48 trinque furthermore you can't spend the compliment
12:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11063 @ 0.00053487 = 5.9173 BTC [-] {2}
12:53 deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'No' - The Hearn-Gavin scamcoin will fizzle in 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1191/the-hearn-gavin-scamcoin-will-fizzle-in-2016/#b26
12:54 funkenstein_ trinque, biological conflict?
12:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 115900 @ 0.00053484 = 61.988 BTC [-] {5}
12:58 trinque funkenstein_: you're aware that other primate (and other mammal) males will kill unrelated offspring of a new mate?
12:59 funkenstein_ and direct offspring, what of it?
12:59 funkenstein_ "unrelated" is a bit of a misnomer, wouldn't you agree?
13:00 trinque not at all
13:00 trinque you are going to expend more effort convincing some kid that saw you show up to obey than you will one that didn't
13:00 trinque and beyond that, I would not be surprised at all if being aware of "degree of relatedness" is built-in
13:01 funkenstein_ well that's where the proverbial switch comes in then I suppose
13:02 funkenstein_ either you make them practice or you don't.. if your eyes are slightly different color that's really not important
13:04 trinque seems you are discounting the in-group/out-group dynamics of social animals
13:05 trinque nowhere did I say it was impossible to teach a stepchild, yet, may cost more
13:06 funkenstein_ could be, yah.. but still, "you should be a teacher" is not an insult
13:06 trinque "go and be parasitised; you are only useful as fodder for others" << is
13:07 trinque "only" being quite operative there
13:07 funkenstein_ true.. to me, being parasitised, as fodder for others, would more likely be - take my sperm, discard me
13:07 funkenstein_ teach offspring winblows
13:07 funkenstein_ :D
13:07 trinque lol, you precious bodily fluids ?!
13:07 trinque *your
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13:31 punkman ;;ticker
13:31 gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 418.09, Best ask: 418.25, Bid-ask spread: 0.16000, Last trade: 418.25, 24 hour volume: 155010.88900597, 24 hour low: 342.01, 24 hour high: 419.0, 24 hour vwap: None
13:34 PeterL crazy price jump recently, how high will it go?
13:34 punkman to the moon
13:34 PeterL good news for bitbet, makes the price bets more interesting
13:37 mircea_popescu !up Bugpowder
13:37 mircea_popescu look who's there.
13:38 Bugpowder Sup
13:38 Bugpowder gotta ident
13:45 thestringpuller Holy fuck!
13:46 thestringpuller This day just got more interesting.
13:52 PeterL what is interesting?
13:56 thestringpuller Bugpowder has returned. A name I haven't seent in many years.
14:01 jurov ;;seen bugpowder
14:01 gribble bugpowder was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 23 minutes and 3 seconds ago: <Bugpowder> gotta ident
14:03 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314711 << that's impractical, can't ONLY do live porn .
14:03 assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 07:38:19; punkman: human names for inanimate objects always strike me as odd, also no computars allowed in the bedroom
14:04 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314736 << they're just fishing for relevancy. who knows, if they do that maybe we don't kick unicode out of computing.
14:04 assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 10:48:44; adlai: who knew unicode committee insider buying could be so powerful
14:05 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314740 << the problem with the flat world is, inter alia, that nobody wants to do the tasks he's suited for. gotta aspire!
14:05 assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 11:45:35; davout: debate whether more vertical bars are needed for increased adoption
14:06 mircea_popescu gavin threw out a perfectly satisfactory career as mcdonalds manager to pretend like he's an intellectual, that scruffy kid could have been an excellet poolboy, but no, he has to pretend like political clout and whatnot.
14:06 mircea_popescu life's hard for the postmodern inept.
14:06 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
14:06 * ascii_field meanwhile cut another ~100kB of crud off mpi
14:07 ascii_field it begins to approach....
14:07 ascii_field printability.
14:07 mircea_popescu the postfeudal jobbágy had it better. yes, backbreaking labour and no ownership, but also the satisfaction of a day's work done each night.
14:07 mircea_popescu o hey!
14:07 ascii_field incidentally this thing is going in cardano in place of the unspeakably untested ragtag thing i had previously.
14:08 mircea_popescu ev en better!
14:08 deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin to top $600 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1216/bitcoin-to-top-600-before-jan-2016/#b34
14:09 * ascii_field when reading code where each important algo quotes a knuth aop chapter and verse, the soul fucking sings
14:10 mircea_popescu lol jurov. no boobs do that. ever.
14:10 ascii_field ~who~ wrote mpi, i wonder
14:10 ascii_field do we know ? (i certainly do not)
14:10 ascii_field all i see in the commentz is 'tomb of the unknown free software soldier' sorta thing
14:11 ascii_field why this kolhoz.
14:11 ascii_field i never understood.
14:12 mircea_popescu hey, me either.
14:15 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314758 << can stop reading there. fucktard.
14:15 assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 14:30:17; asciilifeform: 'Everything about this development bears the hallmarks of a military/intelligence operation... Ask yourself, why would millions of men (the overwhelming majority are young men) suddenly and collectively decide to leave their families behind, leave their country, travel thousands of miles and head for either Germany, Austria or Sweden, ignoring all the other safe countries on the way? Who told them tha
14:15 mircea_popescu islamic society consists by 45-60% by mass of young (ie, just like in the west, under 35) men with no property and no prospects (just like in the west)
14:16 mircea_popescu except there they're not being pacified with idle "prospects" and "software engineer" pretenses, they're just told outright : your sisters belong to the wealthy and get fucked.
14:16 mircea_popescu so they're getting fucked. towards where there's free cunt.
14:16 ascii_field waitasec how does this work
14:16 mircea_popescu <and beer, but beer's a minor point.
14:16 mircea_popescu justlikethat.
14:16 ascii_field they fed the gurlz to dogs or what
14:16 ascii_field where are they
14:16 mircea_popescu i didn't know anyone THERE who didn't keep MORE WOMEN THAN ME
14:17 mircea_popescu i don't know anyone here who keeps as many
14:17 mircea_popescu do the math.
14:17 ascii_field ah, 60% by mass, vs by volume, lol
14:17 mircea_popescu lol
14:18 mircea_popescu (ironically, this is also evident in the off-kilter births balance. they're breeding males at postwar replacement rates, for this reason.)
14:18 mircea_popescu been going on for so long.
14:19 ascii_field mircea_popescu: are you familiar with v. rezun's (aka v. suvorov, pseudonym) argument circa 1980 re: why ussr 'must perpetually expand communism' ?
14:19 ascii_field he had this thesis, that it 'has to kill any alternative before it becomes a palatable thing
14:19 ascii_field '
14:20 mircea_popescu this argument is ancient.
14:20 ascii_field i find it entirely plausible that usg would try to open the scuttling valve on what remains of industrial europe
14:20 ascii_field in a very similar algo as the above
14:20 mircea_popescu "the onlyt way we'll go past spreading-works is once all alternatives are exhausted"
14:20 ascii_field aha
14:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46350 @ 0.00053596 = 24.8417 BTC [+] {2}
14:21 mircea_popescu but anyway - the migration towards europe is a mix. females go out of africa, usually with a herd of children in tow. ie, from africa the cows move out.
14:21 mircea_popescu in middle east etc, the cows are owned and stay, the grunts move out
14:21 mircea_popescu they meet in istanbul these days, and invent faux "family units"
14:23 mircea_popescu anyhway, the biases included are indicative of the source. "oh, must be secret service ops " = "we secretly believe secret service is the coolest thing in the world" = "we're here, not there, nor do we manifestly have a clue about anything, so therefore... we';re ss rejects"
14:23 mircea_popescu mmyeah. exactly.
14:23 ascii_field so what, god opened the borders and set up the specially-designated 24/7 trains full of berserking orcs ?
14:24 ascii_field just happened, all by itself
14:24 ascii_field ?
14:24 mircea_popescu yes.
14:24 mircea_popescu the herd moves, alf.
14:25 mircea_popescu always counterclockwise.
14:25 ascii_field why moves today and not last year ? and not next year ?
14:25 mircea_popescu such are the questions that lead to insanity.
14:25 ascii_field and why not met with flamethrowers ?
14:25 mircea_popescu who sent god's whip ? god ?
14:25 mircea_popescu why now and notearlier a minute, or later ?
14:25 mircea_popescu because the flesh is weak.
14:25 mircea_popescu why do you think rapists usually get the cock wet ?
14:25 mircea_popescu "oh, i have mace" yeah, you do. so ?
14:26 mircea_popescu anyway, bbl.
14:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40500 @ 0.00053484 = 21.661 BTC [-] {2}
14:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69900 @ 0.00053631 = 37.4881 BTC [+] {3}
14:40 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
14:41 ascii_field https://i.imgur.com/2w0Kaqf.jpg << unrelated.
14:41 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q9o8eg )
14:42 punkman ascii_field: I had a client that was automating payment of those. taxi/limo company.
14:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42150 @ 0.00053677 = 22.6249 BTC [+] {3}
14:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 204048 @ 0.00053983 = 110.1512 BTC [+] {5}
14:56 punkman ;;ticker --market all
14:56 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 394.75, vol: 84845.64867873 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 367.0, vol: 44757.79797 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 392.9, vol: 176800.21379135 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 380.0, vol: 10.85867695 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 415.782486, vol: 116744.19000000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 396.79108, vol: 413.41721194 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 383.565, vol: 465.42021608 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
14:57 punkman http://media.boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/screenshot.jpg lol
14:57 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Sm3qae )
14:59 punkman "don't forget to bring cash"
15:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75900 @ 0.00054216 = 41.1499 BTC [+] {3}
15:07 ascii_field sahires == BugPowder ?
15:07 ascii_field or just neighbours ?
15:08 asciilifeform !up sahires
15:08 sahires lol
15:08 sahires stupid client
15:08 sahires new computer
15:08 sahires I’ve been outed
15:09 ascii_field l0l
15:10 deedbot- [Qntra] IBM Approves Third Party OS/2 Distro - http://qntra.net/2015/11/ibm-approves-third-party-os2-distro/
15:10 sahires gotta bring the GPG key over from other computer
15:12 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
15:13 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1315011 << holy fuck, it's as if we didn't have ~enough~ 1990s shitware living on as undead
15:13 assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 20:10:20; deedbot-: [Qntra] IBM Approves Third Party OS/2 Distro - http://qntra.net/2015/11/ibm-approves-third-party-os2-distro/
15:13 BingoBoingo Seriously
15:13 jurov ascii_field: how do you flamethrower million people?
15:14 ascii_field jurov: you flamethrower 1,000 and the rest - if they have any sense - get the message.
15:15 jurov you know, mmore than 1000 already drowned
15:15 jurov not getting message somehow
15:15 ascii_field drowned != publicly impaled on camera
15:17 ascii_field jurov: do you seriously think that they were let in because there was not enough ammo to shoot every last orc ?
15:17 jurov no not because of that reason
15:17 ascii_field or that if a million russians wanted to move in and rape, pillage, there would be the same welcome ?
15:18 jurov if russia was i ruins, yes
15:18 ascii_field aha. controlled chaos.
15:19 jurov merkel&co just thought bunsiness as usual, if they can have a million already there, they can accept 10 times more
15:19 ascii_field the orcs are welcome because they spread chaos and destroy the competition of usg
15:19 jurov no other reason
15:19 jurov shoulda invade a china, too
15:19 jurov ir that's not a competition?
15:19 ascii_field china is not competition.
15:19 ascii_field think about it
15:19 jurov says who?
15:20 ascii_field competition is places where 'brain drain' MOVES TO
15:20 ascii_field su did not heavily police its border with cn, for this reason
15:20 jurov yes, some do move there now
15:20 ascii_field it's a run-from country, not a run-to.
15:20 ascii_field very few.
15:20 ascii_field because it's a shithole.
15:20 jurov because orlov says so?
15:21 ascii_field afaik he has not commented re: cn
15:23 ascii_field but there is no shortage of public evidence of it being a shithole. in the spirit of http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=06-07-2015#1190095
15:23 assbot Logged on 06-07-2015 20:54:46; mircea_popescu: which is why no cows, no trees, everyone on tatamis
15:23 ascii_field and no white man ever really, legitimately, enters the cn wot.
15:24 jurov anyway, how do you imagine anyone in the EU would initiate impalements?
15:24 jurov there isn't even capital punishment
15:25 ascii_field no worries, the caliphate will rediscover the art of picturesque capital punishment in eu.
15:26 jurov nono
15:27 jurov i did not ask about hypothetical future caliphate
15:28 ascii_field aha
15:28 ascii_field but that's who will answer...
15:28 jurov you proposed that as realistic preventive solution, so i'm curipus how do you imagine that?
15:29 ascii_field can picture it 10 different ways
15:30 ascii_field say, ever 'refugee' gets two weeks to make himself scarce and after that, gasenwagen
15:30 jurov again, who will do it?
15:31 jurov who will make them vanish?
15:31 ascii_field army coup ?
15:31 jurov pffffhhhaha
15:31 ascii_field but yes, there is no coup. because, as we learn, the germans do not really want to live.
15:32 ascii_field jurov: aren't you in germany now ?
15:35 jurov no
15:35 * ascii_field vaguely recalled something about jurov possibly moving there
15:35 jurov it was postponed (for reasons unrelated to politics)
15:35 ascii_field ah
15:36 ascii_field i know a fella in meatspace who wanted to move to germany
15:36 ascii_field but no moar.
15:36 ascii_field which is what got me on this train of thought.
15:41 kakobrekla !up Bugpowder
15:41 jurov i suspect it will end up like wwii, it will be *very* different germany as before, but everyone will still envy it
15:41 kakobrekla Bugpowder you should auth with assbot if you want a permavoice.
15:42 ascii_field jurov: wwii did not involve a population replacement in de
15:42 jurov indeed it did
15:42 kakobrekla oh shit im deauthed too.
15:42 ascii_field jurov: last i saw, it was still full of germans ?
15:43 jurov these "germans" lived hundreds of years outside germany
15:43 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
15:43 jurov !up ascii_field
15:45 jurov it's documented many times in european history, that genes move in completely unrelated directions to culture and language
15:45 kakobrekla !up Bugpowder
15:45 jurov so if caliphate does not happen, then this
15:45 Bugpowder tyty
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16:15 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
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16:35 deedbot- [Qntra] Ohio Ballot Measure Seeks Creation of Protected Monopoly - http://qntra.net/2015/11/ohio-ballot-measure-seeks-creation-of-protected-monopoly/
16:49 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
16:53 deedbot- [Qntra] Bull Farmer Killed in Shootout While Protecting Life - http://qntra.net/2015/11/bull-farmer-killed-in-shootout-while-protecting-life/
16:53 BingoBoingo ^ Bull Lives Matter
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17:12 deedbot- [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Whither the Edmonton parking meter? Beneath the steel-toed boot of the bezzle. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/11/03/whither-the-edmonton-parking-meter-beneath-the-steel-toed-boot-of-the-bezzle/
17:15 lobbes It is argued that Issue 2 (restricting monopolies) would also prohibit citizens from bringing issues to the ballot (via petition) that deal with any kind of tax reform
17:15 lobbes http://www.ohioconstitution.org/2015/10/28/ohioans-beware-state-issue-2/
17:15 assbot Ohioans Beware: State Issue 2 - 1851 Center for Constitutional Law ... ( http://bit.ly/1NpFFOv )
17:16 lobbes and that it wouldn't really stop monopolies anyway, as the Ohio General Assembly would still be able to do such
17:16 lobbes democracy!11! ftw
17:21 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
17:21 BingoBoingo lobbes: Ohio is basically a shitpit. Take everything wrong with Chicago and spread it over the area of an entire state and you get Ohio.
17:22 BingoBoingo Ohio, where the water in the rivers is as flamable as the diesel in the trucks.
17:23 lobbes BingoBoingo: where, in America, is it not a shitpit?
17:23 lobbes different flavors, perhaps
17:23 BingoBoingo I dunno, but even compared to the rest of the place, Ohio is especially smelly.
17:26 lobbes idk, there's Oklahomo, Michigan, but now I guess we're just ranking shit
17:26 lobbes and yeah, there is a literal smell to some places in Ohio
17:27 BingoBoingo Oklahomo is pretty bad, but less overtly toxic in a give you cancer sort of way than Ohio. Michigan still has the Upper Penninsula last I checked.
17:28 thestringpuller Kansas City always smelled like poopoo to me
17:29 thestringpuller I remember being driven to the airport one morning and my god
17:29 BingoBoingo Yeah, Kansas City definitely also has a "sepia tone" everything there is brown
17:29 * hanbot briefly lived in Ohio on a river lovingly referred to as the "old & tangy"
17:29 BingoBoingo lol
17:30 thestringpuller hanbot lived in Columbus?
17:31 hanbot misfortunately
17:32 thestringpuller not as bad as Canton
17:34 lobbes Sandusky; esp stinky. But they got roller coasters that kill people, at least
17:36 hanbot hmm, do they charge for tickets too?
17:36 BingoBoingo St Louis isn't so bad. South City stinks in a few places. North County has some radioactive hotspots. Murder happens pretty much everywhere in the city on a long enough timeline.
17:38 lobbes hanbot: I've heard around $30 a pop, though I've never been myself. My loathing of crowds may have kept me alive
17:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62108 @ 0.00053818 = 33.4253 BTC [-] {2}
17:43 thestringpuller ;;ticker
17:43 gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 399.01, Best ask: 400.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.99000, Last trade: 400.0, 24 hour volume: 178828.86721472, 24 hour low: 360.99, 24 hour high: 423.88, 24 hour vwap: None
17:43 mircea_popescu 400 huh
17:43 adlai revisited from above, moreover
17:44 pete_dushenski and 178k coins traded ? mkay.
17:45 thestringpuller bitcoinica 3.0
17:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33200 @ 0.00053976 = 17.92 BTC [+] {3}
17:45 adlai arrrise chicken!
17:45 adlai btc has rallied, where's the s.mpoe pop?
17:46 pete_dushenski not how it works
17:46 pete_dushenski there are an infinite number of dollars to collapse into btc, finite number of btc to collapse into smpoe
17:47 adlai where's mats's crystal ball when you need it
17:47 pete_dushenski probably updating itself
17:47 kakobrekla ;;8ball whats it gonna be
17:47 gribble Come again?
17:47 kakobrekla you heard me.
17:49 pete_dushenski h8te ball
17:49 adlai extending pete's floorless logic, s.mpoe has a soft ceiling at 21MCxBTC/1BS.MPOE = a cool two million satoshi per share.... there's a little headroom left.
17:49 adlai now please disregard everything except "BS"
17:49 thestringpuller pete_dushenski: also the mpoe bubble bot isn't on right
17:49 thestringpuller now
17:52 mircea_popescu ;;8ball tits or ass ?
17:52 gribble No.
17:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51200 @ 0.00053691 = 27.4898 BTC [-] {4}
17:52 mircea_popescu see, gotta know how to ask.
17:52 shinohai ;;8ball coke or meth
17:52 gribble Obviously.
17:53 adlai ;;8ball will bitcoin remember the fifth of november?
17:53 gribble _I_ don't know.
17:54 adlai ;;8ball are markets sentient, or merely sadistic?
17:54 gribble Come again?
17:54 mircea_popescu anyone got any idea what "futurniture" is supposed to be, or who Matias Vangsnes is ?
17:55 adlai assrests that will arrive in Two Weeks(tm)?
17:55 mircea_popescu gah and we have an issue with mpex ;/
17:56 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
17:56 jurov wish such an issue would be more often :D
17:58 adlai what sort of issue?
17:58 * jurov will not comment further
18:00 ben_vulpes wb adlai
18:00 ascii_field moar lisp plz
18:02 ben_vulpes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314635 << you misunderstand. my entire net worth is tied up in $bezzlecorp.
18:02 assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 05:31:42; pete_dushenski: "My naïve Tesla "buy" call was predicated on the American green fetish at the time" << did you actually pick up some shares or just 'recommend' ?
18:02 ben_vulpes perhaps at the end of this fiscal year i can spread the risk around a bit.
18:03 ben_vulpes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314633 << healthy, somewhere in the first standard deviation for most things.
18:03 assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 05:30:47; pete_dushenski: ;;later tell ben_vulpes heyo any measurements on the little v-man to report ? length, weight, etc. ?
18:03 adlai first from the bottom? top? middle?
18:03 ben_vulpes around the mean.
18:04 adlai "and may your first child be an average child"
18:04 pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: l'chaim
18:04 ben_vulpes ascii_field wished me mean reversion
18:04 jurov fat tail
18:04 ben_vulpes by the way, american medical professionals have this habit of throwing out uncontextualized numbers: "oh, thus and such should happen by the other date"
18:05 pete_dushenski fat hammies
18:05 ben_vulpes "so, if it doesn't happen by then be worried?"
18:05 mircea_popescu "no"
18:05 ascii_field l0l i wished him to ~be spared~ mean reversion
18:05 mircea_popescu "well then fuck you ?" "how about just fuck my wife" "deal"
18:06 ben_vulpes the only men i've seen in this saga are the surgeons and the family doc. dunno what that means.
18:06 ben_vulpes ty, pete_dushenski
18:10 adlai ;;isup mpex.ws
18:10 gribble mpex.ws is down
18:10 mircea_popescu !up Mineur099
18:14 * BingoBoingo can't believe the Bull Farmer story isn't getting much traction yet.
18:14 BingoBoingo because #BullLivesMatter
18:14 adlai "you know, it's a bull market"
18:14 BingoBoingo adlai gets the pun
18:14 shinohai I forgot to add that hashtag to my tweet of your article earlier BingoBoingo, think I'll redo it.
18:14 BingoBoingo cool
18:17 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314764 << this, while factual, has A LOT more to do with the russian counter-embargo than with anything else.
18:17 assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 14:33:04; asciilifeform: 'I have heard from several people connected to European security circles that the illegal weapons market is completely sold out, with many dealers holding on to their weapons for their own personal use. This is a rumour, but since we have been forced to depend on hearsay for any real information right now, I tend to believe it.'
18:17 shinohai https://twitter.com/SatoshiShinohai/status/661683654138032128
18:18 shinohai bbl
18:19 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314786 << this is actually how it used to work. "gotta go to prison/jail/sleep with wife ? pay commoner to do it instead."
18:19 assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 14:47:59; kakobrekla: "can i bring a few friends and we sit out the years in a month?"
18:19 kakobrekla but it wasnt in parallel iirc?
18:20 mircea_popescu well yeah, their computing wasn't advanced enouygh
18:27 pete_dushenski http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-34448314
18:27 assbot Why don't people see the yeti any more? - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1RtFKQB )
18:28 pete_dushenski !up ascii_field
18:28 shinohai mircea_popescu: in China I have heard this still occurs, you pay someone to serve your sentence for you.
18:29 kakobrekla does it work for death sentence and do they take checks?
18:29 shinohai http://www.businessinsider.com/wealthy-chinese-hire-body-doubles-2012-8 <<< Slate sourced, but eh.
18:29 assbot In China It's Common For The Wealthy To Hire Body Doubles To Avoid Prison - Business Insider ... ( http://bit.ly/1RtFYXN )
18:30 mircea_popescu maybe yteah
18:30 mircea_popescu i guess not even the chinese can tell the chinese apart.
18:32 shinohai How sad I just noticed that gay-as-fuck heart shit in twitter now.
18:33 mircea_popescu re mpex : there was a trade engine fart earlier, it's down atm, and will stay down for the rest of the day. going through the whole stack of cards thoroughly and will have moar infos by tomorrow.
18:34 pete_dushenski shinohai: spread the love. it's a revolution
18:36 shinohai pete_dushenski: I spread bitterness and discontent, that's what the internet is for.
18:37 pete_dushenski meanie
18:38 shinohai :D
18:38 shinohai You're on my happy list, what you complaining about!
18:39 pete_dushenski is the opposite the sad list ? the angry list ?
18:41 shinohai That's the list of things that have *actual relevance* in todays online world.
18:42 pete_dushenski *gasp* how dare you insinuate that i don't have actual relevance !
18:43 pete_dushenski i'd expect that from my mother, but my cult ? what has this world become ??
18:43 pete_dushenski /dramatism
18:43 mircea_popescu apparently pete_dushenski needs a mistress
18:44 mircea_popescu not enough drama in his lyf
18:44 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=02-11-2015#1313616 eh
18:44 assbot Logged on 02-11-2015 04:05:32; mircea_popescu: the mistress is a very important surogate for the functional (ie, 3-4 wives) arrangement.
18:44 mircea_popescu also for drama.
18:45 shinohai Someone has to stir the pot/
18:45 pete_dushenski well i seem pretty decent at making my own drama thus far
18:45 pete_dushenski perhaps this edge will dull, at which time...
18:47 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314798 << i wonder why the republic favour ascii armored over "binary"
18:47 assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 14:55:26; adlai: too many false positives in --armor blocks
18:49 BingoBoingo armored is eye readable before/after verification
18:53 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314802 <<->> http://trilema.com/2014/how-i-was-wrong-cuckolding-or-a-story-about-sigmas/#selection-711.0-711.64
18:53 assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 14:56:06; asciilifeform: i still can't fathom why anybody with half a brain would voluntarily set foot in such a place
18:53 assbot How I was wrong : Cuckolding, or a story about sigmas on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qa47Ed )
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19:16 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314814 << i would not be surprised to discover that "the backbones" are in such state of disrepair/chinification as to not be able to guarantee translation of larger blocks. because hey, "gotta voip!", so everything is wider band but shittier band, and then they have heuristics to sort-of fix the data as best possible, and that best possible is not optimized for your usec
19:16 assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 15:00:42; asciilifeform: i would not be much surprised to discover that plaintext matching the description of a gpg sig is being silently massaged, at random, somewhere in the backbonez.
19:16 mircea_popescu ase, but for netflix usecase.
19:17 mircea_popescu why would you imagine THAT particular aspect of the charade is in so much better shape than all the others ? can'\t fucking compile, right ? why would you be able to tcp/ip ?
19:18 mircea_popescu and re this entire "europe suicide" bs... the eu population is half a billion. there are NOT THAT MANY PEOPLE IN ALL THE MIDDLE EAST! so a few million made it across ? big whoop. so the already marginal worthless white trash is going to have a worse time of it ? GOOD. fuck them, they took arms against their king in the name of convenience, comfort and MUUU then they earnestly expect it'll work out for them ? ha.
19:18 mircea_popescu a little bit of comfort for a short interval and then oblivion. this is how nature works.
19:18 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all --currency eur
19:18 gribble Bitstamp BTCEUR last: 373.837804, vol: 77239.76012104 | BTC-E BTCEUR last: 348.95, vol: 427.18736 | CampBX BTCEUR last: 371.2654, vol: 11.60030253 | BTCChina BTCEUR last: 395.46864, vol: 117318.73700000 | Kraken BTCEUR last: 371.0, vol: 28385.100767 | Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR last: 370.0, vol: 497.55590088 | Volume-weighted last average: 384.756959479
19:19 mircea_popescu maybe the slightly browner kids their sisters will have whether they want to or not will have better sense.
19:19 mircea_popescu something tells me they will.
19:19 mircea_popescu the battle for 400, eh BingoBoingo ?
19:19 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: For 400 euros
19:20 mircea_popescu the difference is nigligible :D
19:20 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
19:20 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 411.02, vol: 77229.07498454 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 376.973, vol: 42579.68211 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 413.0, vol: 172230.05428862 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 407.0, vol: 11.60030253 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 432.5298, vol: 117462.04440000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 406.58278, vol: 402.22741974 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 405.557, vol: 497.55590088 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message)
19:20 BingoBoingo ;;more
19:20 gribble average: 414.463709678
19:20 BingoBoingo I dunno dollares need a whole second message
19:20 * mircea_popescu can't remember if he had money on the 400 bet or not
19:22 BingoBoingo I cunt remember either
19:29 deedbot- [Qntra] Micon Gets Probation and $25,000 Fine - http://qntra.net/2015/11/micon-gets-probation-and-25000-fine/
19:31 mircea_popescu what was this for, again ?
19:32 BingoBoingo The seal with clubs thing
19:32 BingoBoingo Operating it at all
19:32 mircea_popescu oh, being online as a us citizen ?
19:32 BingoBoingo Yeah
19:32 mircea_popescu hopefully teaches the rest of 'em a lesson.
19:32 mircea_popescu go innovate under the bedsheets, yo.
19:32 BingoBoingo Sure taught me one
19:33 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314824 << suppose instead of picturing, you do that then i can write in qntra about it ?
19:33 assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 15:04:12; asciilifeform: (picture what would happen if you sent them a 'winning entry')
19:33 mircea_popescu not the you you, the general you.
19:36 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314855 <<lmao
19:36 assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 16:49:15; jurov: !t m x.eur
19:37 mircea_popescu k
19:37 mircea_popescu jh
19:37 mircea_popescu uh i meant http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314854
19:37 assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 16:33:06; *: adlai has exceeded his daily allotment of manual sha1 preimage mining
19:43 BingoBoingo https://sli.mg/7jSWGF.png
19:44 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1l6PMNd )
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20:28 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314864 << perousal. unless you meant something to do with penis tumescence.
20:28 assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 17:22:25; funkenstein_: also in "noob learning V ropes" news, patches for parousal: http://frass.woodcoin.org/dev/
20:33 shinohai Have I been spelling that wrong all this time? Perusal ?
20:33 shinohai shit
20:34 asciilifeform http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/fishes-eat-psychotropic-seaweed-to-get-high-shows-new-research << l0lz
20:34 assbot Fishes eat psychotropic seaweed to get high, shows new research World News Daily Report ... ( http://bit.ly/1RtTqLl )
20:35 shinohai Now the dea will team uo with noaa and send agents down to confiscate all the seaweed.
20:35 shinohai *up
20:35 jurov shinohai lmaousal
20:37 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1315224 << i dun get it
20:37 assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 23:53:33; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314802 <<->> http://trilema.com/2014/how-i-was-wrong-cuckolding-or-a-story-about-sigmas/#selection-711.0-711.64
20:38 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315227 << if it were wide-spectrum rot of this kind, the multi-GB turds i routinely move around would suffer bitrot
20:38 assbot Logged on 04-11-2015 00:16:16; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314814 << i would not be surprised to discover that "the backbones" are in such state of disrepair/chinification as to not be able to guarantee translation of larger blocks. because hey, "gotta voip!", so everything is wider band but shittier band, and then they have heuristics to sort-of fix the data as best possible, and that best possible is not opti
20:38 asciilifeform (they do not.)
20:39 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315231 << you don't need that many orcs to turn a germany into an england
20:39 assbot Logged on 04-11-2015 00:18:33; mircea_popescu: and re this entire "europe suicide" bs... the eu population is half a billion. there are NOT THAT MANY PEOPLE IN ALL THE MIDDLE EAST! so a few million made it across ? big whoop. so the already marginal worthless white trash is going to have a worse time of it ? GOOD. fuck them, they took arms against their king in the name of convenience, comfort and MUUU then they earnestly expect it'll work out fo
20:40 asciilifeform see 'wasp' - how many maniacs does a city need running loose to stop all meaningful commerce..?
20:40 asciilifeform even one can suffice.
20:41 asciilifeform the particulars of the death of europe aside, the 'not so many people' thing boggles my mind. it is not unlike saying 'bullet is so small, how can an elephant die of it?!!'
20:42 jurov first "wasps" from turkey arrived in germany 30 years ago . per your theory, it should lay in ruins already
20:43 asciilifeform from one bullet, elephant visibly thrashed. now let's have ten.
20:45 asciilifeform see also:
20:45 asciilifeform !s rotherham
20:45 assbot 9 results for 'rotherham' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=rotherham
20:46 jurov so? english lords did it, too
20:46 asciilifeform which it
20:46 jurov child abuse
20:46 jurov and catholic teachers in ireland
20:46 asciilifeform afaik they mainly 'did'... each other
20:47 jurov and.. and...
20:47 jurov but i guess this discussion is hopeless, goodnight
20:47 asciilifeform i'll be the last to cry for the english, or for the germans, as they go into the woodchipper
20:47 asciilifeform but does jurov like crossing countries off the map? at the end of the day, one has to live somewhere.
20:48 jurov you do it, not me
20:48 asciilifeform jurov would still agree to move to de ?
20:48 jurov yes
20:48 * asciilifeform takes off hat
20:50 mircea_popescu im bashing rthe seaweed
20:50 mircea_popescu asciilifeform what's not to get ? one would set food in the deathtraps for cunt.
20:50 asciilifeform if the fish can, they must!
20:51 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ah, this!
20:51 mircea_popescu and the bullet thing is nonsense. immigration only hurts low status males. it helps low status females, and high status everybody.
20:51 mircea_popescu fuck the low status males, who the fuck said they get anything ?
20:52 mircea_popescu if they didn't suck there wouldn'\t be immigration, they'd be out there enslaving africa.
20:52 mircea_popescu they wanna be orwell, that's fine BUT it comes with a dulap and anal lube.
20:52 asciilifeform afaik none of the migrant folks intend to work
20:52 mircea_popescu and what, the "born in germany" derps do ?
20:52 mircea_popescu work at wow, maybe.
20:53 asciilifeform de still has actual industry
20:53 asciilifeform (unlike usa)
20:53 mircea_popescu again : if they had intended to work they would be out there shooting elephants.
20:53 mircea_popescu yeah, it does, on account of romania making the parts. tyvm.
20:53 * asciilifeform dimly aware of this
20:53 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: which parts ?
20:54 mircea_popescu pretty much all brake assemblages used in "european" cars made in ro.
20:54 asciilifeform siemens et al make silicon.
20:54 mircea_popescu iirc poland and ukr make the drive trains etc.
20:54 mircea_popescu yeah, in... china.
20:54 asciilifeform nope. in de.
20:54 mircea_popescu for what, prototyping ?
20:54 asciilifeform and, iirc, the only modern cpu plant (amd's) outside of usa proper is in de (augsburg?)
20:54 asciilifeform no cpu in cn.
20:54 mircea_popescu or was.
20:54 asciilifeform (of the x86 variety anyway)
20:55 mircea_popescu anwyay. 100k engineers and techs is not this discussion.
20:55 mircea_popescu 50 mn nobodies derping about "nordic system" up and down is this discussion.
20:55 mircea_popescu germany took the eastern orcs 20 years ago, what did it do ?
20:56 asciilifeform they worked.
20:56 mircea_popescu like hell they did.
20:56 mircea_popescu ask an actual german.
20:56 mircea_popescu worked with the gab.
20:57 * asciilifeform actually saw'em sweeping toilets in frankfurt and munich
20:57 asciilifeform turks, that is
20:57 mircea_popescu turks lol. east germanz.
20:57 asciilifeform ah, them
20:57 mircea_popescu yes them
20:58 asciilifeform those, yes, afaik, sit around being sad.
20:58 asciilifeform which is not entirely the same as rotherhaming
20:58 mircea_popescu how exactly is ein berliner better than شيعي ?
20:58 asciilifeform he doesn't rotherham ?
20:59 mircea_popescu pfff.
20:59 mircea_popescu this is not better. this is worse.
20:59 asciilifeform mircea_popescu sees rotherhaming as an essential public service. i don't grasp this. seems approximately as useful as locusts.
21:00 mircea_popescu understand the fundaments of society : if you're confronted with a group of 100 idiot boys doing idiot shit, you go up to one of them, grab him by the hair and bash his head into a wall until he stops moving. problem solved. if however you run into a group of 100 idiot girls sitting around being weird, you rape one. problem also solved.
21:00 mircea_popescu misbehaviour of the sort described in http://trilema.com/2015/how-is-it-the-end/ has its very well documented, well understood, perfectly funtional solution
21:00 assbot How is it the end ? on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1QakFMp )
21:01 mircea_popescu violence.
21:02 mircea_popescu there is a very deep reason black communities do not have the biological collapse problem of "upscale" white communities in the same damned us state / county. no it's not "poverty" and no it's not "fuck da police".
21:02 mircea_popescu it's that violence without recourse is educative.
21:05 asciilifeform speaking of locusts,
21:05 asciilifeform http://i.imgur.com/qyuJVVh.jpg
21:05 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1QalsNA )
21:05 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1314878 << lotta wishful thinking in there, of the exact sort that was supposed to be a solution for 1970s women.
21:05 assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 17:39:30; funkenstein_: trinque, meaning, if you want my behaviors implanted on future generations... you must have some respect for those who shaped mine, etc.
21:05 mircea_popescu it didn't work for them. maybe it works for you, who knows.
21:05 asciilifeform ^ found this little fella today.
21:05 asciilifeform he's out of season, methinks
21:05 mircea_popescu aww cute
21:07 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315354 << expand on this ?
21:07 assbot Logged on 04-11-2015 02:02:42; mircea_popescu: there is a very deep reason black communities do not have the biological collapse problem of "upscale" white communities in the same damned us state / county. no it's not "poverty" and no it's not "fuck da police".
21:07 mircea_popescu well, where does it rub ?
21:08 asciilifeform !rated zfx
21:08 assbot You have not rated zfx.
21:08 asciilifeform !rate zfx 1 new blood, lisp
21:08 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/10cf6aac5f28ab4a
21:09 mircea_popescu black mothers beat their children. black husbands beat their wives. brothers lay the smackdown on one another all the time, and teenaged females with overactive coyness stand a decent change to get a sweet sixteen gangbang. this all helps to maintain the society functional.
21:09 asciilifeform !v assbot:asciilifeform.rate.zfx.1:bc9c9005043f336af0a6ba4e952ef195291a3023e86906a98ccb238d97b8e95a
21:09 assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for zfx with note: new blood, lisp
21:09 mircea_popescu people love to derp about how easter island ecological collapse is an example of this and that,
21:09 mircea_popescu rarely does it occur that "this is what happens when no preditors"
21:10 asciilifeform mircea_popescu posits usa city blacks as examples of 'functional' ?!!
21:10 mircea_popescu yes.
21:10 mircea_popescu guess what ? they have no propblem with immigration.
21:10 mircea_popescu what is your definition of functional ?
21:10 zfx thanks
21:11 mircea_popescu it's what fucking health is. "an organism is healthy when all foreign bodies ingested are food."
21:11 zfx can anyone recommend high-quality starting literature for studying electronics?
21:11 asciilifeform zfx: horowitz & hill
21:12 zfx got that on the way
21:12 mircea_popescu electronics as what, a practical aplication ?
21:12 asciilifeform zfx: but you will need basic school maths. if your education is seriously deficient, you may need forrest mims
21:12 zfx well, I'm interested in some of the cpu reinvention ideas discussed here
21:13 mircea_popescu L. D. Landau and E. M. Lifshitz, Electrodynamics in Continuous Media. hurr.
21:13 zfx asciilifeform: how far is 'basic'?
21:13 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: win
21:13 mircea_popescu i dunno what he's asking, what can i say.
21:14 mircea_popescu https://archive.org/stream/ElectrodynamicsOfContinuousMedia/LandauLifshitz-ElectrodynamicsOfContinuousMedia_djvu.txt << free even
21:14 assbot Full text of "Electrodynamics of Continuous Media" ... ( http://bit.ly/1QamPvJ )
21:14 asciilifeform zfx: i must agree with mircea_popescu. thus far we have only the foggiest notion of what it is you'd like to accomplish
21:14 mircea_popescu and in engluish no less.
21:14 zfx asciilifeform: my lack of knowledge is somewhat robbing me of the ability to ask the right question...
21:15 mircea_popescu eh, read that volume 8. can't be you're doing anything more important anyway.
21:15 asciilifeform mega-recommended.
21:15 zfx put it this way, I've spent a pretty long time working with software, but never dug into the hardware as far as I'd like to
21:15 mircea_popescu (read, in the mathematical sense, is a specific thing. do all the work. especially the stuff towards the end of a chapter. ESPECIALLY.P)
21:15 zfx certainly not far enough to read schematics and understand what I'm looking at
21:16 zfx mircea_popescu: thanks, will read
21:16 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: perhaps surprisingly, i must take issue with the reductionist approach here. electrodynamics is to 'electronics' as fluid dynamics is to modern plumbing
21:17 mircea_popescu ftr, ee without that is like jd without blackstone.
21:17 mircea_popescu asciilifeform gotta start somewhere!
21:17 zfx can't hurt to understand the fundamentals
21:17 * asciilifeform blows dust off blackstone
21:17 mircea_popescu or pr without cicero
21:17 mircea_popescu or on it goes.
21:18 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: most of the time folks asking after 'electronics' 'just want to know' how to arrange the mosfets
21:18 mircea_popescu yeah well fuck them.
21:18 zfx that's not really my style
21:18 mircea_popescu they wanna learn how to arrange mosfets, take a job in a tv repair shop for a summer.
21:19 * asciilifeform doubts there are any discrete fets to be found in a modern tv
21:19 asciilifeform but yes.
21:19 mircea_popescu so go to cairo, take the job there.
21:19 shinohai Guatemala still has old sets :D
21:19 asciilifeform i'd expect sov. tube sets in cairo
21:19 * mircea_popescu has observed person mill cylinder piston replacement by hand
21:19 asciilifeform but perhaps i'm out of date
21:19 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: cuba?
21:19 mircea_popescu cairo.
21:20 asciilifeform neato
21:20 mircea_popescu now i regret not buying them a tea
21:21 asciilifeform re: cylinder, it is the lapping rather than the milling that is the tricky bit
21:24 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1315017 << with one million gallons of fuel. what ?
21:24 assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 20:13:22; jurov: ascii_field: how do you flamethrower million people?
21:24 asciilifeform aha.
21:24 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1315024 << yep.
21:24 assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 20:17:49; ascii_field: or that if a million russians wanted to move in and rape, pillage, there would be the same welcome ?
21:24 asciilifeform consult, e.g., the memoirs of one douglas mcarthur.
21:24 mircea_popescu not "if". was there, saw that.
21:25 mircea_popescu heck, the only reason putin can't get rid of the underworld like stalin did is PRECISELY that back in stalin's day they'd have been shot, but these days... welcomed.
21:25 asciilifeform so nato is a scam ?
21:25 asciilifeform somebody tell jurov.
21:25 mircea_popescu dude seriously.
21:25 mircea_popescu how could it NOT be a scam ?
21:26 mircea_popescu you know romania had better guarantees, in writing, than nato is ?
21:26 mircea_popescu TWICE
21:26 mircea_popescu somehow it was "defeated" both times, notwithstanding that fuck you, bunch of idiots, you don't show up as per deal and then bitch about it five years later ?
21:26 mircea_popescu poland got nearly wiped, on the strength of the same scam, also twice.
21:27 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1315028 << the orcs are accepted because if you don't fuck your wife, someone will.
21:27 assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 20:19:08; ascii_field: the orcs are welcome because they spread chaos and destroy the competition of usg
21:27 mircea_popescu end of fucking story, no usg enters into any of it. binary choice, pick one : ( ) man ; ( ) boy.
21:28 asciilifeform and if you don't burn down the church, someone else will ?
21:28 mircea_popescu pretty much.
21:28 mircea_popescu either you burn theirs or they burn yours.
21:28 asciilifeform now this, yes.
21:28 mircea_popescu for as long as italians aren't dropping nerve gas on eritrea,
21:28 asciilifeform 'paris eats couscous'
21:28 mircea_popescu eritreans will be going to rome.
21:29 asciilifeform put in this notation, it is smashingly obvious.
21:29 mircea_popescu mkthen.
21:30 mircea_popescu and bitching notwithstanding, i will point out that this "send the women naked butt first" approach is so far working a lot better than the "we will resist behind the walls of vienna" 1100s stuff.
21:30 asciilifeform iirc they dropped mustard gas
21:30 asciilifeform but yes.
21:30 mircea_popescu arguably a larger migratory wave than that one
21:30 mircea_popescu (recall my discussion of china and how it keeps creating these waves that smash europe ?)
21:30 asciilifeform aha.
21:31 mircea_popescu that's the deep driver here. the us isn't even on the map.
21:31 mircea_popescu china is strongly centralizing again, the nomads are going west.
21:31 mircea_popescu pushing western tribes further west
21:31 asciilifeform as i understand, cn is only involved in the sense that it is impervious to the usg orc-pushing current
21:31 mircea_popescu at least this time they don't have a leader. yet they are very well connected.
21:31 mircea_popescu which is why the politruks are so affraid to move.
21:32 mircea_popescu god fucking help the lot if they do actually get a leader.
21:32 mircea_popescu 100 man "special forces" teams are impressive on tv, owing to the poor quality of the camera as a perception mechanism.
21:32 mircea_popescu but otherwise, the us got wiped, by a smaller force.
21:34 asciilifeform last i heard, it wasn't the chinese who flattened syria
21:34 mircea_popescu o, right, right... it was... wait for it... REBELS
21:34 mircea_popescu herpy derp. the us couldn't recruit 5 of those.
21:34 mircea_popescu how come the fucking rebels were in syria rather than in fucking japan ?
21:34 asciilifeform (though it may well have been cn who airdropped brand new ipnohes)
21:35 mircea_popescu dude. the pakis pushed west.
21:35 mircea_popescu who the fuck do you think flattened syria if not a bunch of hardcore dudes that have been training against the "coallition" scarecrows for a decade ?
21:36 mircea_popescu they don't wanna live in rome, they wanna live in lebanon. they don't like your women, they like those.
21:36 mircea_popescu because much less shit to explain, they mostly get it.
21:37 asciilifeform but in rome/berlin/stockholm there is payola.
21:37 mircea_popescu "isis" is a conveyor belt. it reduces tectonics by moving people west.
21:37 mircea_popescu fuck the payola. you think pashtun wants it ?!
21:37 asciilifeform sure he does.
21:37 mircea_popescu like hell. this is your "usg matters" delusion speaking.
21:37 asciilifeform (or what is he doing in rotherham ?)
21:37 mircea_popescu try it, offer me some.
21:38 mircea_popescu they're different people. the people colonising england and the people beheading us "soldiers" are maybe born from the same mother,
21:38 mircea_popescu but they are different people.
21:42 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1315048 << hopefully.
21:42 assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 20:25:14; ascii_field: no worries, the caliphate will rediscover the art of picturesque capital punishment in eu.
21:42 mircea_popescu i'd even consider moving.
21:43 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1315070 << this is likely.
21:43 assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 20:41:28; jurov: i suspect it will end up like wwii, it will be *very* different germany as before, but everyone will still envy it
21:43 mircea_popescu the magical thing about societal collapse is that meh, whatever. women are still usable anyway.
21:43 asciilifeform worked great in ptolemaic egypt ?
21:44 asciilifeform (i dare say not)
21:44 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-11-2015#1315072 << don't be silly! you're basically arguing ohio state is contiguous with indian ohio.
21:44 assbot Logged on 03-11-2015 20:42:09; ascii_field: jurov: wwii did not involve a population replacement in de
21:44 asciilifeform didn't mircea_popescu confess that he'd much rather have the tall lanky pharaonic folks than the present crop of orcsen
21:44 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the greeks weren't enough. that's the thing with them, from anabasis onwards : never fucking enough
21:44 mircea_popescu what i'd rather doesn't enter into it. i would rather the "civilised" world burn than continue.
21:45 mircea_popescu yes, i'd much rather that this burning happens in the consciousness of the derps involved,
21:45 mircea_popescu but fancy the odds of that.
21:47 felipelalli deedbot- http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=n235faWk
21:47 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mg6G6g )
21:47 mircea_popescu deedbot- http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=n235faWk
21:47 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mg6G6g )
21:48 mircea_popescu trinque is he uypset ?
21:50 trinque there's crap at the end of it, which is probably why
21:51 mircea_popescu oh
21:51 trinque I parse me inputs!
21:51 mircea_popescu good boy!
21:52 felipelalli deedbot- hates me :)
21:52 trinque just hack off that end bit and I expect it will work
21:52 mircea_popescu felipelalli you added stuff at the end
21:52 trinque deedbot- http://dpaste.com/212ATQC.txt
21:52 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mg7hox )
21:52 deedbot- accepted: 1
21:52 mircea_popescu !h
21:52 assbot http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot
21:52 felipelalli Ah! I'm sorry.
21:52 trinque felipelalli: I just did it for ya :)
21:52 trinque lol!
21:53 mircea_popescu !up Krystyl
21:53 mircea_popescu basically you need a pgp key (do you have one ?) and register it with assbot
21:53 felipelalli trinque, thank you!
21:54 Krystyl do not have one
21:54 felipelalli trinque, but I need that stuff in the end. Should I re-sign the entire message? It will work?
21:54 mircea_popescu Krystyl well then get gpg and make one.
21:55 felipelalli deedbot- http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=UXCFq5gF
21:55 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mg7zLT )
21:55 deedbot- accepted: 1
21:55 felipelalli nice! thank you trinque
21:58 mircea_popescu Krystyl are you twitter.com/krystyl incidentally ?
21:58 Krystyl nope not me
21:59 mircea_popescu aite
21:59 Krystyl I think I need to look into this more because I have no idea what pgp & gpg are........
22:00 mircea_popescu are you on windows ?
22:00 Krystyl yes
22:00 felipelalli first step: use Linux! :)
22:00 mircea_popescu lol.
22:00 mircea_popescu what was it, winpgp ?
22:01 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: phun phakt: M_DEBUG in gpg-1.4 never worked
22:01 mircea_popescu www.gpg4win.org/ < there we go
22:01 felipelalli In Windows try it: http://www.gpg4win.org/
22:01 assbot Gpg4win - Secure email and file encryption with GnuPG for Windows ... ( http://bit.ly/1iC37et )
22:01 asciilifeform explodes into a fiery hell
22:01 mircea_popescu asciilifeform heh
22:02 asciilifeform the way in which it is written suggests that it ~once~ worked but was mutilated.
22:02 asciilifeform (by whom? i do not know.)
22:03 * asciilifeform replacing the whole bloody mess with own allocator
22:03 trinque felipelalli | nice! thank you trinque << quite welcome
22:04 * asciilifeform laments having to do this
22:05 felipelalli goodbye guys, good to see you again!
22:06 mod6 asciilifeform: you wanna give my changes to V a try? http://dpaste.com/0BE564M.txt
22:06 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mg8z2O )
22:06 asciilifeform mod6: this looks nifty, sign & post to ml ?
22:06 mod6 yeah, wanna test it a bit more before.. but by the end of the weekend for sure.
22:07 * asciilifeform doesn't like running items that no one has signed
22:07 mod6 the changes should make it so that you don't need Graph::Easy until you wanna run the "g" or "graph" command.
22:07 asciilifeform cool
22:07 mod6 that's fine.
22:08 asciilifeform mod6's 'v' is nice'n'polished
22:10 mod6 thx! i'll post this change here as soon as I get everything bundled up and the docs altered.
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22:30 adlai http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-03/that-time-i-tried-to-buy-some-crude-oil "Kaminska insists on paying me by blockchain, the digital ledger system that is currently all the rage on Wall Street."
22:30 assbot That Time I Tried to Buy an Actual Barrel of Crude Oil - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1iC6wKq )
22:31 mod6 <+funkenstein_> mod6 ,thanks for the script :D << np
22:32 mircea_popescu that name seems familiar.\
22:41 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> you know romania had better guarantees, in writing, than nato is ? << Scammed by "Dallas"
22:41 mircea_popescu howssat ?
22:43 deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin to top $600 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1216/bitcoin-to-top-600-before-jan-2016/#b37
22:45 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: That 80's TV show. They didn't want other arrangements. They wanted Texas's loving arms and ended up with a bunch of empty Yankee promises.
22:46 mircea_popescu heh
22:47 deedbot- [Trilema] The war of the Roses - http://trilema.com/2015/the-war-of-the-roses/
22:47 BingoBoingo Allies with planes their existing stock beats in exercises and whatnot
22:49 BingoBoingo !up robotnum1
22:50 robotnum1 thank you
22:52 BingoBoingo What brings you around these parts?
22:55 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
22:55 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 436.07, vol: 81086.89608211 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 393.803, vol: 43587.99041 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 440.0, vol: 183349.6136867 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 425.0, vol: 16.01906461 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 462.650158, vol: 118724.88190000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 415.0, vol: 361.2682475 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 416.252, vol: 537.15643628 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
22:55 BingoBoingo ;;more
22:55 gribble 440.782865035
22:57 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all --currency eur
22:57 gribble Bitstamp BTCEUR last: 397.78497, vol: 81212.59885246 | BTC-E BTCEUR last: 369.47, vol: 445.76416 | CampBX BTCEUR last: 388.025, vol: 16.01906461 | BTCChina BTCEUR last: 423.8038, vol: 118675.86920000 | Kraken BTCEUR last: 390.0, vol: 30793.0272735 | Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR last: 380.0, vol: 537.15643628 | Volume-weighted last average: 409.981740163
22:57 BingoBoingo Seriously nigligible difference
22:59 BingoBoingo 400 euros
22:59 robotnum1 so how many of you are short at this moment?
23:01 BingoBoingo Das not a very polite question, but I'm about 5'7"
23:01 robotnum1 lol
23:02 robotnum1 no one know how long this bubble is gonna last. I wish i knew
23:03 robotnum1 or rather where it is gonna do a U-turn
23:04 kakobrekla around the moon, naturally
23:05 BingoBoingo And then to mars
23:05 BingoBoingo Not a U-turn, this isn't Missouri so not legal here. A gravity assisted slingshot.
23:09 robotnum1 our of this solar system i suppose
23:09 robotnum1 oout*
23:10 BingoBoingo Mebbe?
23:10 mircea_popescu !up wpalczynski
23:11 mircea_popescu <robotnum1> so how many of you are short at this moment? << i would be surprised if anyone is short btc.
23:13 BingoBoingo robotnum1: I've got a movie about market crashes to psych you up if you are short: "My Name is Bill W", has James Woods, not bad for made for tv
23:14 BingoBoingo Related: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=3214
23:14 assbot JL: They Came from Cosmo! ... ( http://bit.ly/1QaFG9O )
23:14 robotnum1 no im not short. im undecided
23:15 BingoBoingo Prolly the best movie about the 1929 crash out there
23:16 robotnum1 youtubing
23:17 BingoBoingo just torrent it already. Youtube is nothing but flash and google virii orfice
23:20 BingoBoingo !up robotnum1
23:25 ben_vulpes ahaha wut spike lee thinks he's doing lysistrata
23:26 asciilifeform http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-03/when-a-127-year-old-u-s-industry-collapses-under-china-s-weight << RIP alcoa
23:26 assbot When a 127-Year-Old U.S. Industry Collapses Under China's Weight - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1QaGT0Z )
23:27 ben_vulpes spacey and chappelle!
23:27 asciilifeform what are those ?
23:28 ben_vulpes things that don't exist in your world iirc
23:30 asciilifeform where might one find them ?
23:31 ben_vulpes perhaps google? imdb might tell of them.
23:34 phf spike lee is making a movie with spacey and chappelle? :o
23:43 ben_vulpes anyone know which contravex piece slit the "car reportering" scam open?
23:54 BingoBoingo !up robotnum1
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