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00:03 * ben_vulpes is having a blast nesting with the girl. today, we finished scaffolding the builtin to house the dog and spawngear: http://imgur.com/Z9iBUv3
00:03 assbot Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet ... ( http://bit.ly/1LCZlMf )
00:04 gabriel_laddel ben_vulpes: no comment & looks like fun.
00:05 ben_vulpes don't be chewing tacks over there.
00:05 ben_vulpes previously, lady v put up crushed foam panels on the ceiling, and i installed the seam and crown molding: http://imgur.com/yevDNKh
00:05 assbot Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet ... ( http://bit.ly/1LCZuPN )
00:08 ben_vulpes i'd be irate about all of this value evaporating as soon as i move out of this place, but it's saving me the cost of relocating to a larger apartment next year and the associated switching costs.
00:08 ben_vulpes plus, fun projects with the babe!
00:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33770 @ 0.00069198 = 23.3682 BTC [-]
00:12 danielpbarron !up mikaeldice
00:13 danielpbarron ;;seen mikaeldice
00:13 gribble mikaeldice was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 39 weeks, 3 days, 22 hours, 22 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <mikaeldice> I reinstalled Windows as a dual boot after a couple years of solely Debian so I could play a game.. It felt dirty.
00:25 mikaeldice hey
00:26 mikaeldice I'm on Fedora now..
00:26 mikaeldice see you in 39 weeks :P
00:40 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-08-2015#1256443 << which shelf does dog go in ?
00:40 assbot Logged on 30-08-2015 04:03:54; *: ben_vulpes is having a blast nesting with the girl. today, we finished scaffolding the builtin to house the dog and spawngear: http://imgur.com/Z9iBUv3
00:41 asciilifeform gonna guess, the oblong one in the right-hand bottom corner ?
00:41 ben_vulpes bottom-right, actually.
00:41 ben_vulpes left
00:41 ben_vulpes leftleftleft
00:42 asciilifeform could fit two long, narrow dogs on the top.
00:42 ben_vulpes or children
00:42 asciilifeform children go in the middle niches, it looks like
00:42 asciilifeform the elder, on the left, younger - right.
00:44 asciilifeform in other nyooz, dulap now behind by 'only' 32 blocks.
00:50 ben_vulpes this guy
00:50 ben_vulpes telling me how to put my own furniture designs to use
00:52 asciilifeform hey dunt look at me, if that were me i'd be filling it up with scrap metal.
00:52 * asciilifeform had something not entirely unlike this shelf in old flat
00:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31457 @ 0.0007004 = 22.0325 BTC [+] {3}
00:53 asciilifeform either scrap, or piles of laserprint so tall and old that the toner unstuck and transferred to adjacent page randomly
00:54 * asciilifeform would like to learn, before dies, precisely why this happens and what determines how long it takes and where it comes off
00:55 * asciilifeform also traditionally counts printed circuit boards which are prolly considered by normal people to be fit only for gold reclamation, as 'scrap metal'
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01:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1843 @ 0.00070702 = 1.303 BTC [+]
01:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31927 @ 0.00070433 = 22.4871 BTC [-] {2}
01:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00070936 = 5.8168 BTC [+]
01:20 ben_vulpes yes yes.
01:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24250 @ 0.00069837 = 16.9355 BTC [-] {2}
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02:01 mircea_popescu ;;tslb
02:01 gribble Time since last block: 59 seconds
02:13 punkman https://twitter.com/notch this guy...
02:13 assbot Markus Persson (@notch) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1MVdfeb )
02:16 ben_vulpes what now?
02:16 punkman @SnoopDogg: . @notch Cheer up homeboy! Im gonna have you by tha Doggy Den and we can smoke sum of that sticky n build sum new shit! Uhearme!!!
02:21 pete_dushenski "The old notch.net domain was hosted on an amazon instance I managed myself. It was set up many many years ago, and I was very lazy about doing security or maintenance updates to it. A couple of weeks ago, it went down. I tried to log in, but my security credentials were no longer valid, so I assume it got hacked. Weirdly, the network logs showed very little data coming in or out after it went down, so it doesn
02:21 pete_dushenski ’t seem like it got used as part of a botnet or as a proxy server. This new version is hosted on wordpress.com where I don’t have to worry about anything other than the content. Nice. I like this." << from persson's personal homepage
02:22 mircea_popescu one more idiot, give or take
02:23 pete_dushenski sorta graham level, for whatever that's worth
02:23 pete_dushenski couple $bn in the bank, brain left to rot
02:24 pete_dushenski granting that even making a digital lego is some sort of productive use of one's brain
02:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19985 @ 0.00070702 = 14.1298 BTC [+] {3}
02:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5251 @ 0.00070935 = 3.7248 BTC [+] {2}
02:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17984 @ 0.0007103 = 12.774 BTC [+] {4}
02:43 punkman http://www.nasdaq.com/article/bmw-all-models-electric-within-decade-20150629-00597
02:43 assbot BMW: All Models Electric Within Decade - NASDAQ.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1EsUU77 )
02:44 mircea_popescu "no further need for cars"
02:44 mircea_popescu "have a coffee grinder instead"
02:45 punkman or a broomstick
02:47 pete_dushenski 'self-driving coffee-flavoured broomstick'
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03:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40400 @ 0.00070099 = 28.32 BTC [-] {3}
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03:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39050 @ 0.00071099 = 27.7642 BTC [+] {3}
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04:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32774 @ 0.00070666 = 23.1601 BTC [-] {4}
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04:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12112 @ 0.0007116 = 8.6189 BTC [+]
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05:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18037 @ 0.00071584 = 12.9116 BTC [+]
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05:43 pete_dushenski http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/jul/23/nick-littlehales-the-man-who-taught-cristiano-ronaldo-how-to-sleep << coaches for training, eating, sport, why not sleeping ?
05:43 assbot Nick Littlehales: the man who showed Cristiano Ronaldo how to sleep | Russell Jackson | Football | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1JEmZIB )
05:47 pete_dushenski "In his ideal scenario, Littlehales says athletes wouldn’t be banned from having sex before big games (“absolute crap”) but most definitely sleep solo, with partners leaving for a separate room once it’s time to get 40 winks." << whoa whoa whoa, why play pro sports if you're sleeping solo ?
05:47 pete_dushenski it's like, why join the band ?
05:53 pete_dushenski "The number of millionaires in the UK has shot up by 41% over the past five years, with one in 65 adults now classed as having a seven-figure fortune thanks to booming house prices and stock market gains." << y'all brits are rich, innit !
05:54 pete_dushenski please to now accept more syrian refugees, pay higher taxes, etc.
05:55 pete_dushenski "It is not just property ownership that is creating more UK millionaires. While the TV game show Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? was axed in the UK in 2014, the National Lottery says it has created more than 3,900 individual millionaires since 1994.
05:55 pete_dushenski ^bwahaha. lest you think all the wealth is illusory !
05:55 pete_dushenski omg that's priceless
05:58 pete_dushenski "it's not just all the printing of hollow paper promises that the boe and the fed have been indulging in for the past near-decade, it's once-in-a-lifetime strikes of lighting ! like finding out you have a long-lost rich uncle."
05:59 pete_dushenski "we measured it !"
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07:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34450 @ 0.00070304 = 24.2197 BTC [-] {3}
07:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00070098 = 2.9441 BTC [-]
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07:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00069892 = 9.4354 BTC [-] {4}
08:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18700 @ 0.00069435 = 12.9843 BTC [-]
08:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78139 @ 0.00068985 = 53.9042 BTC [-] {5}
08:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22800 @ 0.00070799 = 16.1422 BTC [+] {3}
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08:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00071121 = 2.5248 BTC [+]
08:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15437 @ 0.00069141 = 10.6733 BTC [-] {2}
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11:02 pete_dushenski "Two interesting comments from Hulk Hogan -- he's NOT mad with the WWE for cutting ties with him over the N-word ... and says he wants to make America great again, by running with Donald Trump!!!!"
11:03 pete_dushenski http://qntra.net/2015/06/hulk-hogan-puts-dentons-control-of-gawker-media-on-life-support/ << obligatory hulk reference
11:03 assbot Hulk Hogan Puts Denton's Control of Gawker Media on Life Support | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1fPfxOW )
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11:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37150 @ 0.00070698 = 26.2643 BTC [+] {3}
11:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25550 @ 0.00070869 = 18.107 BTC [+] {4}
11:44 asciilifeform ;;later tell mircea_popescu dulap still behind; i had a thought that the very possibility of this problem is an atrocious idiocy - why should an infrastructural node (so0opernoude!!!) rely on the whims wild animals to lean latest blocks? we need the 'nobles'-never-disconnect table.
11:44 gribble The operation succeeded.
11:44 asciilifeform *learn
11:45 asciilifeform ;;later tell mircea_popescu (corrected) dulap still behind; i had a thought that the very possibility of this problem is an atrocious idiocy - why should an infrastructural node (so0opernoude!!!) rely on the whims of wild animals to learn latest blocks? we need the 'nobles'-never-disconnect table.
11:45 gribble The operation succeeded.
11:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.00070133 = 15.5695 BTC [-] {3}
12:05 punkman http://www.newrepublic.com/article/122441/corn-wars
12:05 assbot Corn Wars | The New Republic ... ( http://bit.ly/1fPmHm7 )
12:05 punkman asciilifeform: do nodes added with -connect get disconnected?
12:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16207 @ 0.00069262 = 11.2253 BTC [-]
12:17 asciilifeform punkman: yes
12:18 asciilifeform punkman: and, iirc, using 'connect' disables external listening and renders the thing useless as a public node
12:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37950 @ 0.0006917 = 26.25 BTC [-] {3}
12:22 punkman asciilifeform: it's the DoS protection right?
12:22 asciilifeform punkman: not only.
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12:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27800 @ 0.00071176 = 19.7869 BTC [+] {3}
12:53 pete_dushenski "An environmental scientist working for a Canadian government agency has been suspended and will be investigated for recording a protest song about the prime minister, Stephen Harper" << dole-guzzler shocked to discover that dole... can end.
12:55 pete_dushenski https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei50lM6ab1c << said 'protest song'. full of blindingly smug and/or visibly slow-witted church-goers
12:55 assbot Harperman, a Protest Song - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1EtPMj5 )
12:56 pete_dushenski in other news, "Singer Chrissie Hynde has been criticised for saying it can be a woman’s fault if she is raped. The Pretenders star, 63, said she blamed herself for being forced to perform sexual acts under the threat of violence."
13:01 pete_dushenski “Technically speaking, however you want to look at it, this was all my doing and I take full responsibility. You can’t f*** about with people, especially people who wear ‘I Heart Rape’ and ‘On Your Knees’ badges ... those motorcycle gangs, that’s what they do. You can’t paint yourself into a corner and then say whose brush is this? You have to take responsibility. I mean, I was naive.”
13:01 pete_dushenski “If you’re wearing something that says ‘Come and f*** me’, you’d better be good on your feet ... I don’t think I’m saying anything controversial am I?”
13:02 pete_dushenski "You know, if you don’t want to entice a rapist, don’t wear high heels so you can’t run from him."
13:10 pete_dushenski !rated trinque
13:10 assbot You have not rated trinque.
13:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8075 @ 0.00071207 = 5.75 BTC [+] {2}
13:14 pete_dushenski !v assbot:pete_dushenski.rate.trinque.2:2a05a9591580e8da5d9512c0d3935dbc0a2d20cf70f9db69be5e35d205e89ac1
13:14 assbot Successfully added a rating of 2 for trinque with note: maker and maintainer of deedbot- in #b-a. helpful fellow.
13:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26600 @ 0.00071013 = 18.8895 BTC [-] {3}
13:27 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i have no idea why the thing would disconnect for any reason other than what we discussed through the pool weighing
13:27 mircea_popescu it should be fixed so it never disconnects in general.
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13:48 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-08-2015#1256510 << everyone sane including myself sleeps alone.
13:48 assbot Logged on 30-08-2015 09:47:34; pete_dushenski: "In his ideal scenario, Littlehales says athletes wouldn’t be banned from having sex before big games (“absolute crap”) but most definitely sleep solo, with partners leaving for a separate room once it’s time to get 40 winks." << whoa whoa whoa, why play pro sports if you're sleeping solo ?
13:48 mircea_popescu it is the #1 thing you can do for your own well being.
13:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48400 @ 0.0006923 = 33.5073 BTC [-] {2}
13:58 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-08-2015#1256514 << heh, lottery created'
13:58 assbot Logged on 30-08-2015 09:55:08; pete_dushenski: "It is not just property ownership that is creating more UK millionaires. While the TV game show Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? was axed in the UK in 2014, the National Lottery says it has created more than 3,900 individual millionaires since 1994.
13:58 mircea_popescu millionaires.
13:59 mircea_popescu how about "the incredible decay of the pound sterling, currently worth about 1/9000 of a pound sterling, has "Created" fictitious "millionaires" worth a thousand guineeas each. not PER Y
13:59 mircea_popescu EAR. worth nothing per year because the economy's dead."
14:02 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-08-2015#1256545 << "ddos protection" being used so liberally to mask specifically nsa-ian idiocy strengthens my suspicion that "ddos" does not merely exist, but is in fact a coopted technologee. which is why fucking automattic ACTUASLLY PUTS IT IN DELIBERATELY.
14:02 assbot Logged on 30-08-2015 16:22:18; punkman: asciilifeform: it's the DoS protection right?
14:02 mircea_popescu assholes.
14:06 trinque !up yamaka
14:06 trinque yamaka: your client is leaking your IP
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14:29 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: what in this case is 'coopted' ? even a tree stump can see that the buggers love to ddos
14:30 mircea_popescu the ddos sources don't simply exist, like rocks. they were put there, like roads.
14:30 asciilifeform no shit
14:30 mircea_popescu not only is this not directly obvious,
14:31 mircea_popescu you may find nobody else agrees outside of b-a.
14:32 asciilifeform for extra clarity: 'ddos sources' as in senders of the packets, or what is meant is 'ddos holes' ?
14:32 asciilifeform as in, orifices for the cock
14:32 mircea_popescu the senders.
14:32 mircea_popescu automattic PUT ONE IN deliberately and has systematically refused to take it out for ~10 years now.
14:32 asciilifeform waitasec what is automattic ?
14:32 asciilifeform ;;google automattic
14:32 gribble Automattic: <https://automattic.com/>; Work With Us — Automattic: <https://automattic.com/work-with-us/>; About Us — Automattic: <https://automattic.com/about/>
14:32 mircea_popescu but i suspect the makers of fucking TV boxes were mandated to put the source in
14:32 mircea_popescu didn't just carelessly left it in
14:32 mircea_popescu HAD TO put it in
14:32 mircea_popescu which is why and how everyone is "Careless" in the same exact manner.
14:33 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the makers of wordpress.
14:33 asciilifeform positions: '.... Happiness Engineer'
14:33 asciilifeform l0l!
14:33 asciilifeform this has got to be a joke
14:33 mircea_popescu no. it is the redhat of blogs.
14:33 asciilifeform dear satan.
14:33 mircea_popescu aha.
14:33 * asciilifeform changes gas mask filter
14:37 mircea_popescu lemme sauce you.
14:37 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2015/mika-epstein-aka-ipstenu-is-a-thoroughly-clueless-poser/
14:37 assbot Mika Epstein aka Ipstenu is a thoroughly clueless poser on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LDX6Iv )
14:38 asciilifeform that'd be strictly www ddosen, rather than bitcoin etc., no ?
14:38 mircea_popescu i'm sorta half-surprised they're not trying to sue me for using "an unauthorised wordpress fork" which doesn't have all the fucking holes.
14:39 mircea_popescu perhaps not yet on the grounds that why give the hand away, i guess.
14:39 mircea_popescu asciilifeform still same principle, and as historical accident, where i happened to notice the strange.
14:39 asciilifeform 'wordpress' is famously a steaming pile of shit though
14:40 mircea_popescu unlike what ?
14:40 asciilifeform i don't personally know ~anyone~ who uses the 'official' version
14:40 mircea_popescu what ISNT a famous pile of shit ?
14:40 asciilifeform there are obscure piles of shit
14:40 mircea_popescu NAT routers ? ntp servers ? dns servers ? what
14:40 asciilifeform like 'diff'
14:40 mircea_popescu yes, you wouldn't. i also don't know anyone who shops at hot topic. or at kfc.
14:40 mircea_popescu somehow a bunch of blogger blogers keep popping up tho.
14:41 asciilifeform i've seen this called 'bush effect', after the re-election of bush II in '04. a crowd of people whined re: 'how did he win, i don't know anyone who voted for him'
14:46 trinque "here is everywhere" I think applies.
14:46 trinque of course social groups would self-select, or how are they a group?
14:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00069663 = 9.5438 BTC [+]
14:54 mircea_popescu asciilifeform meanwhile there's a new bojum
14:54 mircea_popescu ima be connecting to zoolag and passing you tx aa956edc2dd94722b5794eaf4e987ebdc8189d2e4c6334c433d7514a28d6b3ab
14:54 mircea_popescu see if you figure out wtf is wrong with it because i can't see it
14:55 asciilifeform 1sec..
14:55 asciilifeform fire.
14:55 mircea_popescu no rush it'll be ongoing for a while.
14:57 mircea_popescu but in summary it's an apparently valid tx that lingered in "unconfirmed, broadcast through 200 nodes" sort of state for half a day, bitcoin.info as the standard bearer of the enemy DOESNT list it, either in the mempool or in the rejected txn list, in spite of having received it nx, etc.
14:57 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: not seeing any sign of it in the log...
14:57 mircea_popescu give this an hour we talk after.
14:58 asciilifeform very well.
14:58 asciilifeform i don't suppose there is anything unusual about this tx ?
14:59 mircea_popescu you tell me!
14:59 mircea_popescu the very notion of "something unusual about txn" is smack drab in the conflict zone. wtf does this even mean.
15:00 asciilifeform let's say it straddled a former fork boundary
15:00 mircea_popescu i dun think so.
15:01 asciilifeform tail -f ~/.bitcoin/debug.log | grep 28d6b3ab
15:01 asciilifeform ......
15:01 asciilifeform [the sound of silence]
15:02 mircea_popescu lol. if you're using the stock scheme of logs, they dump like gpg dumps. only a portion
15:02 mircea_popescu and iirc they cut from the front, too
15:02 mircea_popescu anyway, appreciate that i'm having a node respun with a -connect to you, so may take a little.
15:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9671 @ 0.00069141 = 6.6866 BTC [-] {3}
15:05 * asciilifeform puts 'tx dumper' on list of necessaries
15:05 * asciilifeform notices that it was already long there
15:05 jurov maybe they started censoring eulora-related-txen , too
15:06 jurov but how did they figured this is one, i have nfi
15:07 asciilifeform unsigned plaintext 'asks for rape' - in the abstract
15:07 asciilifeform only a question of who and when.
15:07 asciilifeform i have noted this before.
15:07 mircea_popescu jurov i dunno, hanbot complained about her tx not going through, i look at the node she's talking to, it's there, i look at the network, it's not there.
15:08 asciilifeform for all i know, all 3 of my nodez are in mike hearn's ban list
15:08 asciilifeform and this sufficed.
15:09 asciilifeform xt nodes, even when running 'on dead squirrel in cardboard box under the bed', may well be enough as a 'neutron absorber'
15:09 asciilifeform given the current topology of the network
15:09 mircea_popescu which is why i made a special instance to talk to you specifically.
15:10 asciilifeform neato.
15:10 mircea_popescu as it turns out it's entirely possible we'll have to kick this into high gear, specifically because of the poisoning concern you discuss.
15:11 asciilifeform i would be genuinely astonished if the enemy were not focusing his effort on precisely this kind of poison
15:11 mircea_popescu jackshit it'll do, but anyway.
15:11 mircea_popescu teh xt mempool wars of 2015 lol
15:16 mircea_popescu ;;seen birdman
15:16 gribble birdman was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 15 hours, 58 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <Birdman> im well
15:23 mircea_popescu "But girl's bellies and apricots, Roach in a shaded stream, Horses, ducks in flight at dawn, All these are a dream."
15:23 mircea_popescu orwell is officially the worst poet ever. apricots, seriously ?
15:24 asciilifeform notice that he is not known as a poet, aha
15:24 mircea_popescu dude, say cunts if you mean cunts. don't say fucking apricots when your ideas require you say cunt ffs.
15:24 asciilifeform funnily the ru translation (which i was reading last night) is 10x better
15:24 mircea_popescu quoth ?
15:25 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://flibusta.net/b/98554/read << in there somewhere.
15:25 assbot Сборник рассказов, эссе (fb2) | Флибуста ... ( http://bit.ly/1KVE90Y )
15:27 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: lulzy, 'Герой трус и от книги воняет мочой.' >> review of '1984'
15:27 mircea_popescu i dun see it
15:27 mircea_popescu just his equally bad one with the italian soldier
15:27 asciilifeform ('the hero is a coward and the book reeks of piss')
15:28 asciilifeform yer right it only has the italian soldier
15:28 mircea_popescu he's almost pointedly anti-gifted for poetry.
15:28 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://orwell.ru/library/essays/wiw/russian/r_wiw << here's that one
15:28 assbot Джордж Оруэлл: Почему я пишу -- Перевод: ... ( http://bit.ly/1MWdBkM )
15:28 mircea_popescu like a sort of reverse-hemingway in verse.
15:28 asciilifeform grep for Священником я мог бы стать
15:28 mircea_popescu asciilifeform lol were you testing my admittedly poor ru comprehension ?
15:29 asciilifeform nah just brainphart
15:29 asciilifeform sitting on multiple consoles, trying to wrap up 'v'
15:30 mircea_popescu meh, Священник is not vicar.
15:30 asciilifeform and, more importantly, крепыши are not 'little fat men'
15:30 mircea_popescu then again hm. i guess there's no better to be hgad
15:30 asciilifeform opposite!
15:30 mircea_popescu ahahaha yeah
15:31 mircea_popescu he didn't say fucking stout
15:31 mircea_popescu Девичий стан, и абрикос, dude gtfo
15:31 mircea_popescu how is this better ?
15:32 asciilifeform it isn't
15:32 mircea_popescu it's worse. apricot doesn't even mean cunt in russian
15:32 mircea_popescu they decided, iirc, on the plum
15:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31293 @ 0.00069096 = 21.6222 BTC [-] {3}
15:32 mircea_popescu perhaps on account of having either larger plums or smaller mounds.
15:39 mats http://dflund.se/~john_e/fr_gems.html
15:39 mircea_popescu https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/McKinley_Prosperity.jpg
15:39 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KVESPI )
15:40 asciilifeform mats: one day somebody might collect a set of these which don't date to the 486
15:41 mats will you be that hero
15:41 asciilifeform prolly not
15:41 asciilifeform just pointing out that these are pathetically suboptimal on x64
15:41 asciilifeform which has things like cmov
15:42 mats yep
15:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20350 @ 0.00068631 = 13.9664 BTC [-] {4}
16:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.00068623 = 12.7639 BTC [-]
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16:45 trinque http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/30/us-usa-election-christie-idUSKCN0QZ0TA20150830 << Mass-surveillance is only for the (ever-expanding category of) bad guys, don't ya know?
16:45 assbot Christie says criticism of FedEx-like immigrant tracking is 'ridiculous'| Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/1UmKK9S )
16:47 trinque seems they're going to get decent milage out of this "illegal immigrants" thing
16:58 mircea_popescu usg is running with this "let's make it so only an idiot would ever come to us" thing huh
17:00 asciilifeform while bezzleprinter still works, they can require 'donation' of 'extra' organs on entry and folks will come
17:00 mircea_popescu "He maintains that 40 percent of illegal immigrants with visas overstay their visits."
17:00 mircea_popescu wut ?! what's the other 60% do then ?!
17:00 asciilifeform waiwut
17:00 asciilifeform what's an illegal immigrant with a non-overstayed visa ?
17:00 mircea_popescu eh fuck this shit. "news".
17:01 mircea_popescu much more instructive to read spam emails than "news"
17:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20066 @ 0.00068909 = 13.8273 BTC [+]
17:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64650 @ 0.00068909 = 44.5497 BTC [+]
17:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28107 @ 0.00068739 = 19.3205 BTC [-] {3}
17:21 trinque Christie's a fat Jersey moron without question. My observation is that where the "terrorism" tactic does not work, the "illegals are why you're poor" one will fill in nicely. The next obvious step is to combine them.
17:21 trinque someone will cross the southern border and go for a high score, or who knows what.
17:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38450 @ 0.00069193 = 26.6047 BTC [+]
17:22 mircea_popescu doubt it very much
17:22 mircea_popescu mexicans are going north to get exactly out of the way of mexican men.
17:22 mircea_popescu the men themselves are readily finding employment with the cartels.
17:23 mats the rfc defining pgp packets makes my brain hurt
17:23 asciilifeform mats: welcome to my hell
17:23 mats a moment of solidarity
17:26 mats i also have yet to decide how to solve the np-complete problems in the spec
17:26 asciilifeform !b 1
17:26 assbot Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3MVJ7KQ.txt )
17:26 asciilifeform l0l
17:26 mats :<
17:27 mats https://soundcloud.com/sjowgren/seventeen
17:27 assbot seventeen by sjowgren | Free Listening on SoundCloud ... ( http://bit.ly/1hq2Wmo )
17:28 trinque mircea_popescu: but what does the real motivation of mexicans entering the US have to do with the propaganda value of the fact that they are?
17:28 trinque what I see is a gradual attempt to normalize location tracking of everyone; maybe I'm wrong.
17:28 mircea_popescu im sure usg would love nothing more than everyone carrying a mandatory ipad
17:29 mats http://www.pewinternet.org/2015/04/01/us-smartphone-use-in-2015
17:29 assbot U.S. Smartphone Use in 2015 | Pew Research Center ... ( http://bit.ly/1hq39FX )
17:29 mircea_popescu jus' sayin', the sort of mexicans coming into the us are filtered for worthlessness.
17:29 mircea_popescu not liable to do anything much.
17:29 trinque certainly
17:31 mircea_popescu so i wrote sometime somewhere a license which basically said "it is illegal to use this software". anyone recall where ?
17:31 trinque http://trilema.com/2015/a-new-software-licensing-paradigm/ << this?
17:31 assbot A new software licensing paradigm on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1hq3o47 )
17:31 asciilifeform ^
17:32 mircea_popescu ty!
17:32 trinque np
17:32 * mircea_popescu notices he forgot to add lecitin to the shopping list.
17:42 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2015/a-new-software-licensing-paradigm/#selection-133.0-133.289
17:42 assbot A new software licensing paradigm on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1hq4zAg )
17:42 mircea_popescu ahhh
17:43 mircea_popescu the upside of bad memory. i enjoy reading trilema as much as anyone
17:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.0006928 = 15.1723 BTC [+] {3}
17:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36527 @ 0.00069399 = 25.3494 BTC [+]
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18:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00068932 = 1.1029 BTC [-]
18:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00068932 = 7.2034 BTC [-]
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18:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00069016 = 3.5198 BTC [+]
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19:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11595 @ 0.00068932 = 7.9927 BTC [-]
19:29 oglafbot http://oglaf.com/trousersnake/
19:29 assbot Trouser snake ... ( http://bit.ly/1NQVWf2 )
19:30 mats https://www.reddit.com/r/ReverseEngineering/comments/smf4u/reverser_wanting_to_develop_mathematically/c4fa6yl
19:30 assbot rolfr comments on Reverser wanting to develop mathematically ... ( http://bit.ly/1NQVYn0 )
19:32 asciilifeform mats: i had a good number of the books listed in the link, in school
19:32 asciilifeform mats: sipser and 'handbook of crypto' (crc? he doesn't say which) - i still have.
19:33 asciilifeform and papadimitriou
19:33 trinque latest item collected on the quest for radio-passive living, foxtrotgps
19:33 asciilifeform for some reason he doesn't mention barendregt
19:34 trinque anyone know a better one? navit had serious stink, passed on it
19:34 asciilifeform mats: re: compiler construction, i prefer aho's 'dragon book' to appel
19:34 asciilifeform i probably could go on and on but doubt that anybody gives a fuck.
19:35 mats i know approximately nothing about maths, so a list like this is helpful to me
19:36 asciilifeform mats: which maths you need, is something no one can answer for you. it depends heavily on what it is you are trying to think about.
19:37 asciilifeform if you're doing typical reversing work, you can mostly get by with a firm grasp of kindergarten arithmetic.
19:37 asciilifeform (and a pinch of complexity theory)
19:37 asciilifeform also helps if you know what automata are
19:40 mats noted
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20:36 BingoBoingo https://slimgur.com/images/2015/08/30/8bf0c4a5cbb4cc962fc71e98eb28cf75.png
20:36 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JqLDsD )
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20:56 deedbot- [Trilema] One hundred million Eulora coins. Or in other words, one Bitcoin. - http://trilema.com/2015/one-hundred-million-eulora-coins-or-in-other-words-one-bitcoin/
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21:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 15 @ 0.09670001 = 1.4505 BTC [+] {2}
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22:07 mircea_popescu o yeah, in other news, eulora sold 1 btc worth at auction
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22:23 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: neato
22:24 trinque those eulora logs crack me up
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22:53 mats http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/turkey-duped-the-us-and-isis-reaps-rewards-10478720.html
22:53 assbot Turkey duped the US, and Isis reaps rewards - Comment - Voices - The Independent ... ( http://bit.ly/1NI1ZDE )
22:54 mats genius
23:09 mats and the referenced op ed by Ambassador Edelman http://nytimes.com/2015/08/27/opinion/americas-dangerous-bargain-with-turkey.html
23:09 assbot Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jr1QOv )
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23:44 asciilifeform !up sexy_saffron
23:45 trinque https://archive.is/lQart << mats: notably, the article was taken down.
23:45 assbot Why is Turkey supporting Islamic State fighters in Iraq?—commentary ... ( http://bit.ly/1O2zdKW )
23:45 sexy_saffron echangekey
23:46 trinque seems Turkey likes ISIS just fine
23:46 trinque at least so long as they're a problem for Syria, maybe
23:47 sexy_saffron ;;gpg eregister sexy_saffron 922837F6B1FC09A3
23:47 gribble Error: Username already registered. Try a different username.
23:48 trinque sexy_saffron: are you trying to register for voice here?
23:48 sexy_saffron I'm trying to register my GPG key
23:48 sexy_saffron ;;bcauth sexy_saffron
23:48 gribble Request successful for user sexy_saffron, hostmask sexy_saffron!42832f42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.131.47.66. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:409a509e51d1706626f4fbf803efd3850f8e1bf64f15464d6f0f01ad
23:48 trinque assbot now has a separate WoT
23:48 trinque !gettrust sexy_saffron
23:48 assbot sexy_saffron is not registered in WoT.
23:49 trinque !h
23:49 assbot http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot
23:49 sexy_saffron ;;bcverify HH1+7nv7kCPhzrnhTLK4AOuk0VjQ3f3+i6wM6sctJCCIdM69KEbvo1SbXHrbyDkXC6UfuiSFPHYZiviDhGt61/8=
23:49 gribble You are now authenticated for user 'sexy_saffron' with address 1KGkZ1cAbsKH3rQNBoxe8N4KU9DBkfz1KT
23:49 sexy_saffron ;;gpg eregister sexy_saffron 922837F6B1FC09A3
23:49 gribble Error: Username already registered. Try a different username.
23:51 sexy_saffron >trinque I'm following the steps from the wiki, does that change the process?
23:51 trinque yup, assbot's the one for auth here.
23:51 trinque !register and !v
23:51 assbot Nick trinque is already taken.
23:52 sexy_saffron !v
23:52 assbot Need a decrypted verification string.
23:52 sexy_saffron !register
23:52 assbot You need to specify your key fingerprint.
23:52 sexy_saffron !register 922837F6B1FC09A3
23:52 assbot That does not seem to be a valid fingerprint.
23:53 sexy_saffron hmmmm
23:53 trinque that one you get with gpg --list-keys --fingerprint
23:53 trinque it'll want it without spaces.
23:54 sexy_saffron I don't have it registered yet though, how do I register it?
23:55 mats give assbot the fingerprint its asking for.
23:57 sexy_saffron do I have to upload my key to a server first?
23:57 * trinque has to depart
23:57 trinque sexy_saffron: yup, needs to be uploaded so assbot can retrieve
23:58 asciilifeform in other nyooz,
23:58 asciilifeform 'v' is done.
23:58 sexy_saffron gpg --list-keys --fingerprint
23:59 sexy_saffron ;;gpg --list-keys --fingerprint
23:59 gribble Error: The "GPG" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "--list-keys" in it. Try "list GPG" to see the commands in the "GPG" plugin.
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