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00:02 asciilifeform not because it is impossible to devise improved mechanisms - but on account of the 'pascal's wager' involved
00:02 trinque him staying silent during things like the blocksize "debate" speaks volumes imo
00:02 mats or perhaps he reads the logs.
00:02 trinque dunno how someone who was paranoid enough to never speak his own name would allow gavin and company to crawl all over his greatest work
00:02 mats howssat for a political coup
00:03 asciilifeform or was long found, and silenced.
00:03 trinque or he could be *that* principled and I could be a crass moron
00:03 trinque who knows
00:03 trinque "they can have it if they do not break it"
00:03 mats though on last check he seemed to be more likely to be aligned with gavin (bitcoin for the people, etc)
00:03 asciilifeform fella runs winblowz
00:04 trinque too bad if so
00:04 asciilifeform usg could find him inside an hour by, e.g., issuing an xp 'update'
00:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56561 @ 0.00053548 = 30.2873 BTC [-] {3}
00:04 trinque yeah, I have to say I find him having been found as the most likely
00:05 asciilifeform if this - then we can conclude that he had the backbone to pull the pin
00:05 asciilifeform (and if not, we will likely learn about it soon enough)
00:06 trinque if he is the VS/winderz derp, how is it that he generated unbreakable keys?
00:06 trinque fuck knows I don't know how to approach it if he did
00:07 asciilifeform trinque: go, break the other winblowz schmucks' keys
00:07 trinque but *someone* ?
00:07 trinque if one guy at the NSA is the only one who can...
00:07 * trinque shrugs
00:07 trinque what I'm saying is that runs contrary to the derp theory
00:08 asciilifeform trinque: i won't comment on meta-nsa, but classic nsa works on statistical aggregates rather than individuals - at least when dealing with mass collections rather than targeted shots
00:08 asciilifeform no one 'has all keys'
00:08 trinque yeah
00:09 trinque I read all day about how intel's backdoored, mobo's backdoored, so on so on
00:09 trinque and yet his keys are safe
00:09 trinque or at least would appear to be
00:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9135 @ 0.00055481 = 5.0682 BTC [+]
00:10 trinque I suppose he could be the windows derp and still know to at least use a separate airgapped box for the keys
00:10 asciilifeform again the 'all keys' thing
00:10 asciilifeform not how it works
00:10 asciilifeform mr s was not yet famous and hated in '09
00:11 trinque I was not around for the early days
00:11 asciilifeform not necessary
00:12 trinque but I take your point; there wouldn't have been reason to target someone like him until doing so wouldn't have mattered
00:12 asciilifeform but must understand, the more exotic the diddle, the more of a (to borrow mircea_popescu's term) 'glass cannon'
00:12 trinque mhm, fire once
00:12 asciilifeform picture if i am sitting here and i see it
00:12 asciilifeform (and chances are, i will, l0l)
00:12 asciilifeform spent.
00:13 asciilifeform one may speculate all day re: the particulars of usg 'glass artillery', but it suffices to say that such is not fired at a crowd
00:15 asciilifeform (there is a kind of 'valley' in between the ordinary weaponry and the 'glass' - e.g., tor diddles which would 'expire' immediately if publicly revealed, but are good for plenty of 'parallel construction' meanwhile, etc.)
00:16 trinque right, say there's a decent way to do factoring. I think I pulled that one from your blog
00:16 asciilifeform but the point i was trying to make is that your cpu is not transmitting to the proverbial black helicopter 24/7
00:16 trinque certainly
00:16 asciilifeform trinque: aha. archetypical 'glass cannon.'
00:18 trinque put plainly, watching phuctor phuck, I'd thought that there surely must be some way of doing the same thing on badly generated bitcoin addresses
00:18 asciilifeform trinque: this was done. for 'android' wallet of one kind or another
00:18 asciilifeform re-used 'k'
00:18 trinque ah
00:18 asciilifeform fella walked with a good bit of coin
00:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80700 @ 0.00056534 = 45.6229 BTC [+] {2}
00:21 mats http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/07/16/egyptian-navy-vessel-ablaze-after-catching-fire-while-docked-off-sinai-northern
00:21 assbot ISIS says it destroyed Egyptian ship with rocket | Fox News ... ( http://bit.ly/1MxqvU2 )
00:22 mats https://ent.siteintelgroup.com/Jihadist-News/is-sinai-province-claims-destroying-egyptian-frigate-in-mediterranean.html source
00:22 assbot IS’ Sinai Province Claims Destroying Egyptian Frigate in Mediterranean | Jihadist News | Articles ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mxqyzj )
00:22 mats http://imgur.com/a/W9mQt stills
00:22 assbot Sinai Islamic State attack on Egyptian Navy Ship, Rafah - Album on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1MxqCis )
00:24 asciilifeform notbad.jpg
00:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29500 @ 0.00057055 = 16.8312 BTC [+] {2}
00:26 asciilifeform http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/10/first-slaying-on-dc-metro-in-its-40-year-history-witnesses-watched-but-didnt << linked from same
00:26 assbot First slaying on DC Metro in its 40-year history: Witnesses watched but didn't intervene | Fox News ... ( http://bit.ly/1LoMFsX )
00:27 mats matter of time til they catch USN sailors sleeping on guard duty and kill a vessel, IMO
00:28 decimation well, they were foolish to be within range of antitank missile
00:32 mats iirc older .ru ATGMs have a range of ~5km
00:33 asciilifeform i'd be quite surprised if anyone has ever hit a boat-sized target with these from even 1km
00:33 mats easy enough to maneuver a series of boats into range if not firing from the coast
00:36 decimation asciilifeform: where did that stabbing take place?
00:36 asciilifeform claims - in a train
00:36 mats http://cembu.ru/view-video/O3bVUyJKxpk/compilation-of-over-100-atgm-shots-in-syria.html
00:36 assbot Download Video Compilation of Over 100 ATGM Shots In Syria (36min 40sec) in 3GP, MP4, FLV and WEBM Format - Cembu.ru ... ( http://bit.ly/1MxrwLX )
00:36 asciilifeform but does not say where the train was
00:37 decimation ah, apparently wapo reported in their 'metro' section http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dr-gridlock/wp/2015/02/04/stabbing-reported-on-metro-train-at-federal-center-sw/
00:37 assbot Stabbing reported on Metro train at Federal Center SW - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1MxrAeO )
00:37 decimation it apparently happened at l'enfant
00:37 mats hard to tell but many of those targets look well over 3km
00:38 asciilifeform mats: neato
00:40 decimation "Police and a witness interviewed said passengers trapped in the moving train huddled at both ends of the car and watched in horror as Spires punched 24-year-old Kevin Joseph Sutherland until he fell to the floor, then stabbed him until he was dead. Court documents say the victim was cut or stabbed 30 or 40 times, in the chest, abdomen, back, side and arms. "
00:40 decimation http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/victim-in-metro-slaying-stabbed-repeatedly-during-robbery-on-train/2015/07/07/8dd09132-249b-11e5-b72c-2b7d516e1e0e_story.html
00:40 assbot Horrified passengers witnessed brutal July 4 slaying aboard Metro car - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1LoOshS )
00:40 decimation note: the victim was a skinny white guy
00:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.00057436 = 13.6123 BTC [+]
00:41 asciilifeform it is interesting that anyone still bothers to steal phones
00:41 mats particularly dumb criminals, i suppose
00:42 mats iirc some folks finally convinced carriers to disable stolen phones?
00:42 decimation supposedly he was 'high' on 'synthetic marijuana'
00:42 mats lol, 'spice' (research chemicals)?
00:44 decimation http://wtop.com/dc/2015/07/metro-stabbing-unleashes-debate-should-passengers-have-helped-victim/ "Friends say Sutherland, a Connecticut native, loved advocating for progressive causes."
00:44 assbot Metro stabbing unleashes debate: Should passengers have helped victim - WTOP ... ( http://bit.ly/1LoOSET )
00:45 * asciilifeform was, somehow, labouring under the notion that murder was routine aboard dc metro. mainly by folks being pushed into the pit
00:45 asciilifeform and that it was for this reason that it was not a common nyooz item.
00:45 decimation asciilifeform: do you think metro could tell the difference between suicide and murder?
00:45 asciilifeform for all i know, the above is the actual fact.
00:45 asciilifeform decimation: why would they want to tell the difference.
00:46 decimation asciilifeform: maybe because it took place on a moving train
00:46 decimation http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/police-investigate-homicide-at-parking-garage-of-wheaton-metro-stop/2015/07/15/9dc2fb6e-2ad8-11e5-a250-42bd812efc09_story.html < all kinds of murdering going on
00:46 assbot Police say two in custody after fatal shooting at Wheaton Metro station - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1LoPavn )
00:47 asciilifeform decimation: orc-orc
00:47 asciilifeform hence not nyooz
00:47 decimation asciilifeform: no, it's not a common news item (the murdering) because of 'advocates of progressive causes'
00:47 asciilifeform orc-civvie - nyooz
00:47 decimation kinda
00:47 decimation civvie-orc - mega-ny00z
00:47 asciilifeform civvie-orc - national 'day of genuflection, r4c1sm5!!!!!' nyooz
00:47 asciilifeform aha
00:48 trinque some kid made the funny papers the other day in portland
00:48 trinque orc on orc I think it was
00:49 trinque http://www.wgme.com/news/features/top-stories/stories/portland-police-make-arrest-fatal-old-port-shooting-28284.shtml
00:49 assbot Portland police make an arrest in fatal Old Port shooting - WGME - Portland ME Top Stories - News, Sports, Weather, Traffic ... ( http://bit.ly/1MxsnfB )
00:50 trinque this notion that "someone should've helped" is hilarious
00:50 trinque how? human shield?
00:50 decimation asciilifeform: have you noticed that yarvin's blog is gradually disappearing from google search results
00:51 asciilifeform aha
00:51 asciilifeform perhaps b-a pushed it out.
00:52 asciilifeform i can't seem to search for anything at all without turning up half a dozen b-a link turdz
00:52 asciilifeform irrespective of proxy or cookieless wwwtron
00:52 asciilifeform !up MoltenBosnia
00:52 decimation I know he wrote about the splc and the right wing route to power
00:53 MoltenBosnia hello
00:53 decimation asciilifeform: also I note his comments seem to have more weight than the text
00:53 asciilifeform who might you be, MoltenBosnia ?
00:53 MoltenBosnia I have otc rating just gotta get laptop with keys running.
00:54 decimation ah "In a world dominated by progressives, the fascist gate to power is closed, locked, welded shut, filled with a thousand tons of concrete, and surrounded by starving cave bears. Today's Apparat has entire departments who do nothing but guard this door, which no one but a few pathetic dorks will even think of approaching."
00:54 decimation ^ why civvie-orc murdering is trumpeted
00:54 asciilifeform everybody with even a cursory familiarity with landscape of daily life in usa, knows this
00:55 decimation note that 'pathetic dork' seems to fit the description of that guy in charleston
00:55 asciilifeform see the 1,001 'where are the smart t3rr0r1stz!!11' threads.
00:55 decimation indeed.
00:56 asciilifeform the smart generals are in their armchairs.
00:57 decimation trinque: did you manage to make a copy of yarvin's blog?
00:57 trinque I did
00:57 decimation did you use that crawler deal?
00:57 trinque yeah, the one iirc punkman recommended
00:57 trinque worked fine
00:57 asciilifeform http://moldbuggery.blogspot.com << indexed mirror
00:57 assbot Moldbuggery ... ( http://bit.ly/1LoQw9C )
00:57 trinque interface is a little goofy, but I got the files I wanted
00:57 asciilifeform ^ also worth backing up
00:57 asciilifeform if you're into mr mold
00:58 trinque cool
00:58 decimation apparently now is the time to acquire a copy, before it disappears forever into google's memory hole
00:58 decimation for they surely do not wish to hold it
00:58 trinque decimation: I am taking that attitude towards every piece of valuable information I find.
00:59 asciilifeform wget -m
01:00 decimation does it snip the comments?
01:00 asciilifeform how would it.
01:00 mats hm, some of the missiles fired in that video appear to have traveled more than 5km based on ~30s flight time
01:00 decimation blogspot-specific shit
01:00 mats apparently isis has some of the spiffier, longer range ATGMs
01:00 asciilifeform donated by usg
01:01 decimation either them or modern ru
01:01 asciilifeform the latter charges
01:01 asciilifeform usg - free
01:01 asciilifeform wget of mr mold - 114MB, 16sec
01:01 decimation heh nice
01:01 asciilifeform notbad.
01:02 trinque asciilifeform: mind if I eat loper-os too?
01:02 asciilifeform trinque: eat, if you like
01:02 * asciilifeform surprised that anyone needs it for anything
01:03 trinque I am a student farther back on my lisp quest
01:03 trinque helpful perspectives on that
01:03 asciilifeform while we're on the subject, am i the only one somewhat dismayed that the one site that probably has no public backup is mircea_popescu's www ?
01:03 asciilifeform (we all know why. and i'm gonna guess that he doesn't give a damn, 'nobody needed the library of alexandria for anything')
01:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00057436 = 7.8687 BTC [+]
01:05 decimation ah, apparently the httrack widget creates an index as it copies
01:06 decimation yeah, and to make a mirror would be a bit costly
01:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79000 @ 0.00056712 = 44.8025 BTC [-] {2}
01:07 trinque the cost per credit is quite reasonable
01:08 trinque couldn't tell from the site itself precisely how many posts there are
01:09 trinque but I'd not archive it without permission
01:10 trinque since there is are explicit terms right there on the site for use
01:11 trinque *are
01:11 decimation lul http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/naacp-wants-removal-confederate-generals-stone-mou/nmyKH/ "The Atlanta chapter of the NAACP officially called for the elimination of all symbols of the Confederacy from Stone Mountain."
01:11 assbot NAACP wants removal of Confederate generals from Stone Mountain | www.wsbtv.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1LoSsyM )
01:12 decimation for those who haven't seen it, it's a big rock cliff face with robert e lee, stonewall jackson, and jefferson davis
01:12 trinque decimation: sort of an unsettling development, "progress" not satisfied until history never even happened
01:12 decimation yes, as ascii says, the 'having been stolen from' will be stolen too
01:16 trinque I have been musing lately on the relationship between sovereignty, language/meaning creation, and delusional behavior such as this.
01:17 trinque as though if you trust a weapon such as sovereignty to the wrong people, you get this nonsense
01:17 trinque they blow their own heads off
01:17 decimation http://www.cell.com/current-biology/abstract/S0960-9822%2815%2900671-5 "Here, we demonstrate that the three-dimensional geometry of cortical surface is highly predictive of individuals’ genetic ancestry in West Africa, Europe, East Asia, and America, even though their genetic background has been shaped by multiple waves of migratory and admixture events."
01:17 assbot DEFINE_ME_WA ... ( http://bit.ly/1LoTkUc )
01:18 trinque let me see if I can restate: the mechanism of modern american narcissism for example is precisely that the type of person walks around thinking they can simply declare things to be so, because they feel they ought to be
01:18 decimation trinque: yes, what is happening in the west is akin to self-immolation of some kind
01:18 trinque a leader does this same thing, but not as a sort of onanist
01:18 trinque he declares meaning for a larger group
01:19 decimation !up optimator
01:20 decimation a traveler from the cloud
01:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 108062 @ 0.00054869 = 59.2925 BTC [-] {5}
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01:41 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204373 << iirc that was in a mircea_popescu piece
01:41 assbot Logged on 17-07-2015 05:12:55; decimation: yes, as ascii says, the 'having been stolen from' will be stolen too
01:43 mats http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/dcs-chinatown-has-only-300-chinese-americans-left--and-fighting-to-stay/2015/07/16/86d54e84-2191-11e5-bf41-c23f5d3face1_story.html
01:43 assbot D.C.’s Chinatown has only 300 Chinese Americans left, and they’re fighting to stay. - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1LoXtYd )
01:46 asciilifeform https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/maryland-del-ariana-kelly-arrested-for-indecent-exposure-trespassing/2015/07/14/06a29486-2a58-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_story.html << linked, lulz
01:46 assbot Maryland Del. Ariana Kelly charged with indecent exposure, trespassing - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1LoXUSg )
01:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84223 @ 0.00054524 = 45.9217 BTC [-] {2}
01:49 mats http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2015/071615-international-report-confirms-2014-was-earths-warmest-year-on-record.html
01:49 assbot International report confirms: 2014 was Earth’s warmest year on record ... ( http://bit.ly/1LoYmjm )
01:51 trinque mats: at least in the case of the west antarctic glacier I read something interesting regarding the involvement of geologic activity
01:52 trinque looking for it
01:53 trinque http://phys.org/news/2015-07-surprisingly-high-geothermal-beneath-west.html
01:53 assbot Study finds surprisingly high geothermal heating beneath West Antarctic Ice Sheet ... ( http://bit.ly/1HTLJHA )
01:54 trinque of course warming is also occurring
01:54 trinque sounds though like that glacier *is* headed for the ocean
01:56 cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204274 <<< haha white guilt libs getting their just deserts https://puu.sh/iQ1v2/2ff220321a.jpg
01:56 assbot Logged on 17-07-2015 04:40:10; decimation: "Police and a witness interviewed said passengers trapped in the moving train huddled at both ends of the car and watched in horror as Spires punched 24-year-old Kevin Joseph Sutherland until he fell to the floor, then stabbed him until he was dead. Court documents say the victim was cut or stabbed 30 or 40 times, in the chest, abdomen, back, side and arms. "
01:56 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1HTM5hu )
01:58 mats trinque: fun times ahead
01:59 mats 'having killed someone doesn't make you a killer' hue hue hue
02:11 trinque wtf, namecheap just blasted out an e-mail demanding rudely that I verify my email address due to ICANN something something
02:12 cazalla trinque, they have been doing that every year for the past few years if memory serves
02:12 trinque how bout I start deedbotting IPs and names and let that be that
02:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32655 @ 0.00053197 = 17.3715 BTC [-] {2}
02:12 trinque "GOVT REQUIRES FRESH SCANS OF YOUR ASSHOLE PER ANNUM"
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02:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80774 @ 0.00053105 = 42.895 BTC [-] {3}
02:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7424 @ 0.00052484 = 3.8964 BTC [-]
02:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25150 @ 0.00054691 = 13.7548 BTC [+] {2}
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03:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 126800 @ 0.00054068 = 68.5582 BTC [-] {2}
03:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13883 @ 0.00053922 = 7.486 BTC [-]
03:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81912 @ 0.00053922 = 44.1686 BTC [-]
03:29 assbot [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 285 @ 0.0039091 = 1.1141 BTC [+]
03:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50700 @ 0.00056287 = 28.5375 BTC [+] {2}
03:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58100 @ 0.00053851 = 31.2874 BTC [-] {2}
03:51 punkman http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204244 << also happened to blockchain.info, and I remember posting a paper about similar attacks against HD wallets
03:51 assbot Logged on 17-07-2015 04:18:22; asciilifeform: trinque: this was done. for 'android' wallet of one kind or another
03:54 punkman also Counterparty wallet https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=395761.msg6354587#msg6354587
03:54 assbot [ANN][XCP] Counterparty - Pioneering Peer-to-Peer Finance - Official Thread ... ( http://bit.ly/1Dk55oe )
04:00 punkman also hilarious https://github.com/jim618/multibit/issues/403
04:00 assbot Generated invalid address '1FYMZEHnszCHKTBdFZ2DLrUuk3dGwYKQxh' · Issue #403 · jim618/multibit · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1Dk5nLK )
04:00 shinohai > A must-buy for @Gavin: http://amzn.to/1KaCQ0l
04:00 assbot Amazon.com - Corbis Images - Sperm in Testis of a Rat Peel and Stick Wall Decal by Wallmonkeys - ... ( http://bit.ly/1Dk5tDf )
04:00 punkman that's the address for secret exponent=0
04:01 punkman it's currently unspendable, though I think you might be able to spend it on 0.5.3
04:01 shinohai sweet, you think you could make counterparty work?
04:01 punkman huh?
04:03 shinohai oh multibit. I never liked it so never used it
04:03 punkman apparently more than one person hit that bug with multibit https://github.com/steauacris89/MULTIBIT-BUG-/issues/1
04:03 assbot MULTIBIT BUG , PLEASE RETURN MY BTC · Issue #1 · steauacris89/MULTIBIT-BUG- · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1Dk5Aic )
04:03 * shinohai is just coming awake, having coffee @ 4 am
04:04 shinohai tbh i thought maybe 50 people used multibit
04:05 punkman I believe someone has actually sold the private key of the above address
04:05 punkman then the guy that bought it realizes he can't spend anything from the address
04:05 punkman good scam
04:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00055528 = 5.9137 BTC [+]
04:20 punkman interestingly, "re-used k" is how the Playstation 3 keys were broken
04:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00055528 = 3.8314 BTC [+]
04:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.00056318 = 12.0521 BTC [+]
04:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00055631 = 12.4613 BTC [-]
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04:52 lobbesbot New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=4294967297 (Julia Reda ; ) <http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B412BD191BF10DAB6AAB6A8779A3F08D31AC5E3FB748DDBFB1DB18CDF05B6BEF#6269187B70BE0F1B4094A0DCA78923F50E78C97F8B3999BAB3DE5974003B393F>
04:53 davout ohai boludos
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05:56 jurov http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/jul/17/the-square-kilometre-array-radio-silence-in-western-australia-for-most-powerful-telescope-in-history
05:56 assbot The Square Kilometre Array: radio silence in Western Australia for most powerful telescope in history | Science | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1I8cEWt )
05:56 jurov "Given that no computer exists that will be able to deal with the volume of what SKA will produce, the success of the project rests on the continuing robustness of Moore’s law: that every 18 to 24 months computer processing power will double."
05:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45039 @ 0.00052954 = 23.85 BTC [-]
05:57 jurov dem miners
05:57 mircea_popescu eh, journos.
05:57 mircea_popescu da fuck they know about distributed computing.
05:59 jurov shipping yottabytes from australia?
05:59 jurov it smells to me like it really needs to be processed on the spot
05:59 mircea_popescu because there's going toi be a single box yottabyte processor.
05:59 jurov ^indeed.
05:59 mircea_popescu looky, distributed doesn't mean geographically dispersed.
06:00 jurov i mean, moore's not what they expect anymore, they may end up needing gigawatts of ower and cooling,
06:01 jurov meticulously RF shielded
06:01 jurov whether 10km or 100km away from the site does not make such big difference
06:04 jurov and then someone will hax it and use radio as mere entropy source for mining :DDDD
06:04 cazalla meanwhile down under http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-16/pirate-radio-station-near-portland-shut-down-operator-fined/6625792
06:04 assbot Pirate radio station near Portland shut down, operator fined - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ... ( http://bit.ly/1I8dwKT )
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06:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68550 @ 0.00053599 = 36.7421 BTC [+] {2}
06:28 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204200 << it doesn't take much "principled" for "psychopaths". they're the people who don't give a shit, remember ? not even about PEOPLE THEMSELVES!111!!
06:28 assbot Logged on 17-07-2015 04:03:27; trinque: or he could be *that* principled and I could be a crass moron
06:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64900 @ 0.0005389 = 34.9746 BTC [+] {3}
06:34 shinohai meanwhile my pogo is running smooth: I've been connected to mpex.btc for 1 week, 4 days, 2 hours, 31 minutes, and 6 seconds.
06:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28571 @ 0.00054353 = 15.5292 BTC [+]
06:35 mircea_popescu to wut ?!
06:35 shinohai i connected to your node until it failed, now i just have 1 connection.
06:38 mircea_popescu oh oh.
06:38 mircea_popescu it's gonna be up and down as i play with this nonsense block.
06:38 shinohai yes i bookmarked that as "ph0rk 1"
06:39 shinohai I am keeping a messy log of it
06:39 shinohai danielpbarron was down the day i got my pogo of all days.
06:41 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204235 << ever since the block exporter thing i've been mentally picturing you like that scene in brazil
06:41 assbot Logged on 17-07-2015 04:12:43; asciilifeform: (and chances are, i will, l0l)
06:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72800 @ 0.00052475 = 38.2018 BTC [-] {2}
06:43 shinohai so i am stalled, but it is a hell of a device, this pogo
06:44 mircea_popescu not bad huh
06:45 shinohai i am sure it will kick ass when i get an actual ssd
06:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30200 @ 0.00055306 = 16.7024 BTC [+] {2}
06:46 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204259 << afaik us navy is keeping a safe distance specifically for this reason
06:46 assbot Logged on 17-07-2015 04:27:11; mats: matter of time til they catch USN sailors sleeping on guard duty and kill a vessel, IMO
06:47 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204260 << anti tank incendiary ?!
06:47 assbot Logged on 17-07-2015 04:28:03; decimation: well, they were foolish to be within range of antitank missile
06:47 mircea_popescu that was a high exposive incendiary of some sort.
06:48 mircea_popescu prolly fired some ancient ru howitzer at the thing.
06:56 mircea_popescu check it out, Jasper Spires is black.
07:02 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204308 << not updated in a while neh ?
07:02 assbot Logged on 17-07-2015 04:50:44; decimation: asciilifeform: have you noticed that yarvin's blog is gradually disappearing from google search results
07:03 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204319 << dude gtfo, seriously. door's wide open. usians are mentally retarded.
07:03 assbot Logged on 17-07-2015 04:54:03; decimation: ah "In a world dominated by progressives, the fascist gate to power is closed, locked, welded shut, filled with a thousand tons of concrete, and surrounded by starving cave bears. Today's Apparat has entire departments who do nothing but guard this door, which no one but a few pathetic dorks will even think of approaching."
07:03 mircea_popescu nobody's guarding it but the nails in their forehead.
07:03 mircea_popescu the self-driven nails.
07:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00052456 = 13.114 BTC [-] {2}
07:04 mircea_popescu speaking of which, i watched a great film recently. "knockaround guys". it has some great names in it (malkovich has by now taken his obsession with 'voice training' to the point he has a serious speech impediment, his mental issues with voice remind one of angelina jolie and secondary sexual characteristics)
07:05 mircea_popescu but the thing is so bad, ill conceived, mishapen and plain out lame as you couldn't believe.
07:05 mircea_popescu at some point four utter dorks riding around in a car go "imagine, guys like us. we could be owning this place in a week!"
07:06 mircea_popescu unintentional for sure, but an excellent expose of mental retardation, us style.
07:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.00055972 = 9.4033 BTC [+]
07:11 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204359 << nothing keeps you from making your own private backup.
07:11 assbot Logged on 17-07-2015 05:03:59; asciilifeform: (we all know why. and i'm gonna guess that he doesn't give a damn, 'nobody needed the library of alexandria for anything')
07:11 mircea_popescu at the cost of whatever coupla bux it comes to.
07:13 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204365 << 7,203atm.
07:13 assbot Logged on 17-07-2015 05:08:56; trinque: couldn't tell from the site itself precisely how many posts there are
07:14 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204366 << you certainly can make your own backup. fair use is fair use.
07:14 assbot Logged on 17-07-2015 05:09:43; trinque: but I'd not archive it without permission
07:16 punkman how many of those are in romanian btw
07:16 mircea_popescu mmm
07:17 mircea_popescu lemme see. tho i'd expect folks with the archival bent to want to preserve those particularly. who even knows what they actually say.
07:19 mircea_popescu 1384 in english, rest in ro
07:20 punkman oh wow, we've missed all kinds of good stuff
07:21 mircea_popescu we have ? o.O
07:21 punkman us that don't read romanian
07:22 mircea_popescu in fairness a lot of it is not legitimately interesting other than to try and pry into "the personality of the man" etc. lots of style discussions, places nobody really gives a shit about etc.
07:23 mircea_popescu a good chunk of the legitimately interesting stuff was linked either here in reference to soemthing or in english articles etc.
07:23 mircea_popescu then again... who knows what i'm even forgetting.
07:23 mircea_popescu !up hazirafel
07:24 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204405 << right out the "i'm not gay, i just like the taste of cock is all" book.
07:24 assbot Logged on 17-07-2015 05:59:46; mats: 'having killed someone doesn't make you a killer' hue hue hue
07:25 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204406 << you must be new, this has been ongoing once a year for half a decade or some shit.
07:25 assbot Logged on 17-07-2015 06:11:28; trinque: wtf, namecheap just blasted out an e-mail demanding rudely that I verify my email address due to ICANN something something
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07:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00054698 = 2.9537 BTC [-]
07:51 mircea_popescu in other news, http://loungeoflust.tumblr.com/post/84864298407/the-foreplay-part-1-x-art
07:51 assbot Loungeoflust - The foreplay part 1 (X-Art) ... ( http://bit.ly/1faiucJ )
07:56 shinohai That may be the find of the week
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08:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38032 @ 0.00052479 = 19.9588 BTC [-]
08:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48450 @ 0.00052479 = 25.4261 BTC [-]
08:44 cazalla http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/07/17/coontown-a-noxious-racist-corner-of-reddit-survives-recent-purge/
08:44 assbot ‘Coontown': A noxious, racist corner of Reddit survives recent purge - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1HV0t95 )
08:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88182 @ 0.0005247 = 46.2691 BTC [-] {2}
08:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70200 @ 0.000533 = 37.4166 BTC [+] {2}
09:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71101 @ 0.0005545 = 39.4255 BTC [+] {2}
09:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49000 @ 0.00052371 = 25.6618 BTC [-] {3}
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09:38 shinohai https://i.imgur.com/pElWUj6.jpg
09:38 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1M9KPwS )
09:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53393 @ 0.00055572 = 29.6716 BTC [+]
10:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25900 @ 0.00052911 = 13.7039 BTC [-]
10:13 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204405 << well, this is true if you're, say, robert durst
10:13 assbot Logged on 17-07-2015 05:59:46; mats: 'having killed someone doesn't make you a killer' hue hue hue
10:13 pete_dushenski http://www.thejinxhbo.com/ << have not personally watched, but have it on good authority that it's chillingly riveting
10:13 assbot THE JINX ... ( http://bit.ly/1OjUrV2 )
10:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 109479 @ 0.00052369 = 57.3331 BTC [-] {2}
10:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53268 @ 0.00052172 = 27.791 BTC [-]
10:25 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204253 << damn. anyone still think that isis is 'a nuisance and if they become anything more they’ll all be killed.' ?
10:25 assbot Logged on 17-07-2015 04:22:57; mats: http://imgur.com/a/W9mQt stills
10:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00052814 = 10.3515 BTC [+]
10:36 pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/30/climate-change-is-a-good-thing-not-the-apocalypse-mkay/#comment-23136 << lel. angry climatards be angry. and non-specifically so.
10:36 assbot Climate change is a good thing, NOT THE APOCALYPSE, mkay? | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1OjXiNE )
10:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44700 @ 0.00052814 = 23.6079 BTC [+]
10:40 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204482 << the one with the pipes ?
10:40 assbot Logged on 17-07-2015 10:41:52; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204235 << ever since the block exporter thing i've been mentally picturing you like that scene in brazil
10:41 asciilifeform https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teufz17PqoY
10:41 assbot Terry Gilliam's Movie Brazil - Plumbers' Nasty End - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1OjXTyV )
10:44 asciilifeform ^ mega-film
10:45 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204552 << me.
10:45 assbot Logged on 17-07-2015 14:25:59; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204253 << damn. anyone still think that isis is 'a nuisance and if they become anything more they’ll all be killed.' ?
10:45 asciilifeform they're merely the latest incarnation of usg's dept. of foreign devil menace.
10:46 pete_dushenski aha. al-queda 2.0 ?
10:46 asciilifeform muppet theatre
10:46 asciilifeform taliban 2
10:46 asciilifeform wake me up when they bag a plumbooker
10:47 asciilifeform (^ not a high bar! even 'jonestown' managed)
10:47 pete_dushenski mkay. well you have to admit that they're considerably farther reaching than 'taliban'
10:47 punkman what's a plumbooker?
10:48 pete_dushenski magick usians
10:48 asciilifeform punkman: usa has the equivalent of su nomenklatura. as in, an actual phone book of the annointed
10:48 shinohai ;;later tell mod6 i haz pogoplug demo video xD
10:48 gribble The operation succeeded.
10:49 punkman "The United States Government Policy and Supporting Positions, commonly known as the Plum Book, is published every four years, after the Presidential election.  The Plum Book is used to identify presidentially appointed positions within the Federal Government"
10:49 punkman oic
10:50 asciilifeform there is a thicker, nameless book which contains the list of SES ('senior executive service') employees
10:50 asciilifeform (the highest rank in usg's 'non-political' civil service ladder.)
10:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58475 @ 0.0005217 = 30.5064 BTC [-] {2}
10:51 punkman https://github.com/NYTimes/plumbook apparently around 5k people
10:51 assbot NYTimes/plumbook · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1OjZkxq )
10:52 asciilifeform https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomenklatura << for utter n00bz
10:52 assbot Nomenklatura - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1OjZvc6 )
10:53 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1203852 << very nicely done, BingoBoingo ! one of your better pieces lately.
10:53 assbot Logged on 17-07-2015 01:05:21; scoopbot_revived: Limits of Moore's Law Challenge Intel - Questions About Future Performance http://qntra.net/2015/07/limits-of-moores-law-challenge-intel-questions-about-future-performance/
10:59 decimation it's true, it looks like the 7-10 nm range is gonna be a strech for production
10:59 decimation obviously prototypes have been created, but it's another matter to crank out such chips in production
11:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45404 @ 0.00053386 = 24.2394 BTC [+]
11:00 pete_dushenski well if bitcoin is just a prototype...
11:02 asciilifeform http://cryptome.org/2015/07/bb-transcript-redact.htm << from the lulzfarm
11:02 assbot Text Redacted from Barrett Brown Sentencing Transcript ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ok0NUv )
11:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17773 @ 0.00052168 = 9.2718 BTC [-]
11:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65000 @ 0.00052105 = 33.8683 BTC [-] {2}
11:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56100 @ 0.00052072 = 29.2124 BTC [-] {2}
11:40 mats https://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ%3ARPD << rapid7 had an IPO
11:40 assbot Rapid7 Inc: NASDAQ:RPD quotes & news - Google Finance ... ( http://bit.ly/1Myo0kB )
11:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3074 @ 0.00053386 = 1.6411 BTC [+]
11:41 mats someone fucked up when pricing their shares
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12:05 BingoBoingo ;;later tell pete_dushenski ty
12:05 gribble The operation succeeded.
12:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8626 @ 0.00053588 = 4.6225 BTC [+]
12:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8063 @ 0.00052607 = 4.2417 BTC [-]
12:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79098 @ 0.00052065 = 41.1824 BTC [-]
12:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25120 @ 0.00054036 = 13.5738 BTC [+] {2}
12:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30280 @ 0.00054485 = 16.4981 BTC [+]
12:34 pete_dushenski http://btc.blockr.io/tx/info/70c4b127bfeed75f9f333fb742c21a3c6d11fee5e3e1f5917099523754b82b4f << 4.89 mn days destroyed in one transaction.
12:34 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1J56C88 )
12:34 pete_dushenski seems like a lot but i have to admit that i rarely look at such things.
12:37 pete_dushenski $goog pops 15%, $etsy 26% this morning.
12:40 shinohai I heard that a bunch of sjw's got upset because etsy won't let you sell spells anymore.
12:40 fluffypony lol
12:40 pete_dushenski leave spells to the dark markets
12:40 shinohai ^
12:44 trinque mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204366 << you certainly can make your own backup. fair use is fair use. << cool
12:44 assbot Logged on 17-07-2015 05:09:43; trinque: but I'd not archive it without permission
12:46 * trinque has all this disk and so little worthwhile content with which to fill it
12:46 trinque I'm thinking of making it a semi-official function of deedbot to archive a particular site at a particular time and timestamp the bundle
12:47 punkman that would make some pretty big bundles though
12:49 trinque punkman: I just snagged a machine with a few raid cards and 8 drives, but yeah, probably so
12:49 trinque I might make the rating requirement for site-archival a bit higher than for deeds
12:50 trinque anyhow, just musing on the thought currently
12:51 punkman URL deeding would be handy
12:51 punkman we had a couple threads about it
13:06 BingoBoingo https://slimgur.com/images/2015/07/17/7bfd5030ace80a22f705338783cbb3b3.jpg
13:06 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Dl9dV5 )
13:10 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
13:17 jurov http://www.damninteresting.com/the-last-great-steam-car/ who killed the steam car!
13:17 jurov "Astonishingly, an unmodified Doble Model E runs clean enough to pass the strict emissions laws in California today." heh
13:19 BingoBoingo Interesing
13:20 thestringpuller ;;ticker
13:20 gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 277.9, Best ask: 279.2, Bid-ask spread: 1.30000, Last trade: 279.0, 24 hour volume: 32117.18507149, 24 hour low: 272.0, 24 hour high: 281.0, 24 hour vwap: None
13:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58600 @ 0.00054485 = 31.9282 BTC [+]
13:28 ascii_field jurov: iirc, the incurably fatal defect of that car was the five-minute start time
13:28 jurov they made it down to 90 sec
13:28 jurov according to tfa
13:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73247 @ 0.00054485 = 39.9086 BTC [+]
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13:59 BingoBoingo http://dailycaller.com/2015/07/17/exclusive-interview-with-the-gay-porn-star-behind-that-terrible-gawker-article/
13:59 assbot Interview With The Gay Porn Star Behind That Gawker Article | The Daily Caller ... ( http://bit.ly/1REjQ17 )
14:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.0005287 = 1.3218 BTC [-]
14:05 danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1178718 << me too! and the "famicon" mentioned earlier in this thread might sound familiar to fans of SMB2 -- the ~real~ SMB2 is known in the english world as "The Lost Levels" because it was deemed "too difficult" for them when it first came out, and "Super Famicon" was re-branded and re-skinned and shipped to USSA in its place
14:05 assbot Logged on 27-06-2015 04:00:51; *: decimation remembers fondly going to the video rental store to rent nintendo games
14:07 trinque danielpbarron: yeah, our mario 2 was that weird platformer they rebranded at the last minute
14:08 trinque https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yume_K%C5%8Dj%C5%8D:_Doki_Doki_Panic#Yume_K.C5.8Dj.C5.8D:_Doki_Doki_Panic
14:08 assbot Super Mario Bros. 2 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1REl6kP )
14:08 danielpbarron yep, with the mega-lame least-creative-way-to-end-a-story-possible... IT WAS ALL A DREAM L0L
14:08 trinque that game sucked
14:09 danielpbarron pretty much, although it will always be nostalgic to me
14:09 danielpbarron but yeah, i generally glare at people who exclaim "OMG smb2 is my fav!1"
14:09 trinque I play it for the same reason time to time
14:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88600 @ 0.00054374 = 48.1754 BTC [+] {3}
14:18 mod6 shinohai: cool! got a link for us yet? wanna check it out :]
14:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00054485 = 5.1216 BTC [+]
14:23 trinque yeah, neat. I just fired up my own pogo today
14:24 trinque got a nice little intel ssd for it too
14:24 mod6 sweet!
14:38 shinohai nice trinque I don't have ssd yet T_T
14:39 trinque had an old 80gb in a macbook I finally retired to the dumpster
14:39 * trinque sheds a single tear for "elderbook"
14:40 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
14:40 * ascii_field meanwhile is writing proggy for msdos !
14:41 ascii_field (asm, naturally)
14:42 trinque interesting, what brings you to that archaeological dig?
14:42 ascii_field wurk
14:44 trinque shinohai: newegg has 'em for about 50 bux
14:45 jurov what? macbooks with 80g intel ssds can be bought for 50bux?
14:45 scoopbot_revived Turns out you wanted Hitler after all. http://www.contravex.com/2015/07/17/turns-out-you-wanted-hitler-after-all/
14:46 trinque jurov: no, just the ssd
14:46 trinque tho that macbook wasn't even worth 50 bucks
14:46 trinque bad mobo issues
14:46 trinque kernel panics and such
14:47 trinque would've probably lived longer if not for the many dousings with beer/coffee/misc
14:48 * ascii_field lulz at the folks who nod when he says 'computer should cost $100k and be a heirloom' who then tell about the coffee they spilled in their 7th laptop
14:49 trinque 100k computer goes in the basement!
14:49 trinque I'll beer all over my cheap terminal
14:49 ascii_field ever look at what vt100 and its contemporaries cost ?
14:50 ascii_field (i, for one, was surprised when learned the answer)
14:50 jurov basement that never gets flooded!
14:50 trinque jurov: errrr sealed missile silo!
14:50 trinque ascii_field: haven't, maybe a misguided assumption
14:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64362 @ 0.00054036 = 34.7787 BTC [-]
14:52 trinque found one for a grand, damn.
14:52 trinque but this is because it's vintage
14:52 ascii_field nono
14:52 ascii_field ~at the time~
14:52 trinque ah, at the time I'm sure they were very expensive
15:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 187150 @ 0.0005398 = 101.0236 BTC [-] {4}
15:08 decimation I have an old macbook1,1 I would like to use for stator
15:08 decimation i put an ssd in it awhile ago
15:09 decimation one day when I get some extra time I might work on the osx build stuff
15:13 mod6 !up assbot
15:13 mod6 gdit
15:13 mod6 !up ascii_field
15:13 mod6 so I dumped a few blocks 0, 1, 2, 199`999, etc.
15:14 mod6 and i never did find that magic number in there: 0xf9, 0xbe, 0xb4, 0xd9
15:14 ascii_field mod6: 0xd9b4bef9
15:14 mod6 which i thought was kinda weird, so i looked at the code again. This is a part of CMessageHeader, used in ProcessMessage -- so I ran a tcpdump while syncing:
15:14 ascii_field we're little-endian
15:15 mod6 http://dpaste.com/3A4FHKE.txt
15:15 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Okzw4g )
15:15 ascii_field mod6: precisely above
15:15 ascii_field 0320: f9be b4d9
15:15 ascii_field you're seeing it
15:15 mod6 i don't see the bytes in any order.
15:15 mod6 (in the block itself)
15:15 mod6 just in the message header
15:17 ascii_field it gets in when it is written
15:17 ascii_field to disk
15:17 ascii_field see the src
15:17 mod6 then is dump block not including it?
15:19 ascii_field https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Genesis_block << ahahah apparently
15:19 assbot Genesis block - Bitcoin Wiki ... ( http://bit.ly/1fR1U2E )
15:20 ascii_field they start with version (32bits), aha
15:20 ascii_field somehow forgot this
15:25 mod6 so dumping the first four blocks with `dumpblock' into each their own .bin files, then using xxd and shovling them all into one file, here's the result: http://dpaste.com/1B1H1PC.txt
15:25 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1OkBG3R )
15:25 ascii_field mod6: matches what i have
15:26 mod6 ok, ftr, this is from nsl's node with -verifyall on.
15:26 mod6 just thought it was worth mentioning that i found it in the MessageHeader with tcpdump.
15:31 mod6 ah, ok so looking at http://dpaste.com/2J1JRCR.txt again, we can def. note that it's a v3 block and that's not just some garbage in there.
15:31 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1OkCpSE )
15:32 mod6 [block 364`672]
15:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33400 @ 0.00054535 = 18.2147 BTC [+]
15:45 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
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16:00 scoopbot_revived US Can't Retain Drone Pilots http://qntra.net/2015/07/us-cant-retain-drone-pilots/
16:01 mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/6eeea29eba868ab8f9f97c04c3c866ae/tumblr_n65ezs0wmV1tatb44o1_1280.jpg
16:01 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1fR7Ybn )
16:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56522 @ 0.00054553 = 30.8344 BTC [+] {2}
16:03 trinque pilots get tired of fish in a barrel, eh?
16:03 trinque how bout that
16:03 BingoBoingo trinque: Probably tired of not actually being pilots
16:03 mircea_popescu kinda weird seeing how drone flying is a common hobby on uni campuses
16:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16228 @ 0.000546 = 8.8605 BTC [+]
16:04 trinque could be entirely unrelated to being a drone operator too
16:04 mircea_popescu yea
16:04 BingoBoingo Well, there probably a difference between flying drones as a lay hobbyist and flying drones when you spent your youth training to fly planes you fit inside
16:04 mircea_popescu maybe nobody wants to be in the navy anymore because it's doing dumbass "sensitivity training"
16:04 mircea_popescu as a for instance.
16:05 davout who wants to fly drones when you can either fly fighter jets or fuck flight attendants
16:05 trinque yeah, amounts to a cubicle job a lot like being a videogame tester
16:05 trinque or I'd assume
16:05 mircea_popescu all this effort put into becoming "more women friendly" in a retarded, contorted way that women don't give a shit about and pisses off men is mayhap paying off
16:06 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204558 << the on ewith the watching tv
16:06 assbot Logged on 17-07-2015 14:40:16; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204482 << the one with the pipes ?
16:06 mircea_popescu except you're watching the node spew scroll
16:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72350 @ 0.00053757 = 38.8932 BTC [-] {3}
16:07 trinque this "surgical" death from the sky thing strikes me as a bit like playing with one's food
16:07 trinque at least larger wars might end
16:07 trinque s/might/will/
16:10 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204626 << so much win.
16:10 assbot Logged on 17-07-2015 17:06:24; BingoBoingo: https://slimgur.com/images/2015/07/17/7bfd5030ace80a22f705338783cbb3b3.jpg
16:10 mircea_popescu PRIVILEGE IS BEING DISCRIMINATED AGAINST BY REALITY!1111
16:12 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204624 << there's that archive.today thing which seems to work ok. if anyone actually cares enough about a website (which seems a stretch in my mind, but w/e) they can still do what i did to the usms scammer bunch, curl, base64 and sign.
16:12 assbot Logged on 17-07-2015 16:51:29; punkman: URL deeding would be handy
16:12 mircea_popescu otherwise "signing an url" is kinda like "windows security" in that pages include foreign elements.
16:12 chetty ahaha so thats it, its realities fault
16:12 ascii_field i must note that archive.today is not (apparently) recursive
16:13 trinque well god's dead and that's no fair, so the state will have to chip in instead
16:13 BingoBoingo archive.today is indeed not recursive
16:13 trinque the archive I'm building is primarily for my own reading
16:14 mircea_popescu recursive archival is a very much open question.
16:14 mircea_popescu how many copies of the internet do you want ?
16:14 ascii_field depth=1 would make elementary sense
16:14 trinque personally I'll settle for whatever I can find of the best content, and the rest can be damned
16:14 ascii_field for most sites
16:14 ascii_field that is, the default behaviour of 'wget -m'
16:15 mircea_popescu yeah but no guarantee you get your site this way
16:15 mircea_popescu if you really feel like burning time on this, feel free to look at random sites see what depthy=1 gets you
16:15 ascii_field i did.
16:15 ascii_field (on the mr mold example from last night. got everything that's worth anything there)
16:16 trinque !up ascii_field
16:16 mircea_popescu i guess wp is better than most on this score.
16:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28600 @ 0.000546 = 15.6156 BTC [+]
16:19 danielpbarron !up amiller
16:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77200 @ 0.00052246 = 40.3339 BTC [-] {3}
16:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.00052065 = 11.3502 BTC [-]
16:23 BingoBoingo I'll be back
16:25 ascii_field mod6, ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, et al: sooo in other nyooz, last night i got a x86_64 buildroot on musl going. shits out a bootable iso
16:26 mircea_popescu o hey!
16:26 mircea_popescu so in principle, we're this close to a pogo binary ?
16:26 mircea_popescu iirc mod6 got stator static
16:26 ascii_field it was static!
16:26 ascii_field when i released it
16:26 ascii_field hence the name
16:27 ascii_field not to be confused with the turd from 3 month ago
16:27 ascii_field which was not
16:27 ascii_field (had dynamic libc)
16:30 mircea_popescu a right
16:30 mircea_popescu vhell then1
16:30 mod6 nice ascii_field!
16:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3474 @ 0.00054258 = 1.8849 BTC [+]
16:31 ascii_field point is not only to test pogo build and get musl in, but also it is useful to have a rom-able pc realbitcoinotron
16:31 mod6 but yea, was able to build stator as fully static, thanks to ascii_field's cuts from the source.
16:32 ascii_field drop in optical disk, it looks for blockchain on largest blockdev, if doesn't find - counts down with skull, minute later - formats drive, starts fetching blocks...
16:32 shinohai i havent built a staic stator on pogo yet
16:32 trinque nice
16:33 ascii_field ^ above is the notion. all i have presently is a 10m iso that boots to shell
16:33 ascii_field 100% musl though
16:33 ascii_field and self-contained (relies on no libs from host)
16:33 ascii_field !s spreading works
16:34 assbot 9 results for 'spreading works' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=spreading+works
16:34 mircea_popescu ascii_field quite.
16:34 mircea_popescu actually : could we add a replicator ?
16:34 ascii_field ?
16:34 mircea_popescu "pogo responds to magic packet on port X by sending over the iso"
16:35 ascii_field can host on :80
16:35 ascii_field like normal people
16:35 mircea_popescu it has a web server ?!
16:35 ascii_field could have just this
16:35 ascii_field if we wanted
16:35 ascii_field (no need for adult web server)
16:35 trinque if so it's gonna need bitchin ascii art like the foundation site.
16:36 ascii_field will need for the console regardless !
16:36 mircea_popescu i think might be useful feature yea
16:36 mircea_popescu simplify distribution of the iso in any case.
16:37 mircea_popescu unrelatedly, http://33.media.tumblr.com/e3f1c5471a280606676eb5caa12abfc6/tumblr_n3r2iuuOFS1twbbpbo1_400.gif
16:37 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1OkNLWx )
16:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2003 @ 0.00052065 = 1.0429 BTC [-]
16:39 trinque is there anything that'd keep this hp turdserver from having the svm flag on the cpus other than... not having that?
16:39 trinque bios didn't seem to have a virtualization setting
16:40 mircea_popescu Jul 2015538954457,386663,979488816.56 GB << jurov you know i blame you for this right ?
16:40 jurov is that minigame.bz? well, you asked for it
16:41 mod6 <+trinque> if so it's gonna need bitchin ascii art like the foundation site. << Hear, hear.
16:41 mircea_popescu on the plus side there's well over 1k complete versions of the thing i nthe wild now, so it's not a total loss.
16:42 mircea_popescu but damned, half a yottabyte. i feel like google.
16:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50397 @ 0.00051966 = 26.1893 BTC [-]
16:43 mircea_popescu top browsers : WgetYes392,47585.8 %
16:43 mircea_popescu also lulzy.
16:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63700 @ 0.00051914 = 33.0692 BTC [-]
16:47 thestringpuller !up ascii_field
16:48 mircea_popescu halp i have endian problems in my head. peta not yotta!
16:49 jurov i thought you're just trying to be poetic
16:51 mircea_popescu that also.
16:51 danielpbarron wow lame, gave only 1
16:51 danielpbarron oops wrong window lol
16:52 trinque either I have a good nose or the neighbors are *really* drinking this afternoon
16:52 trinque can smell the booze
16:52 trinque crypto-robo-babylon when?
16:53 ascii_field pyronecrocryptozoophilia.
16:53 ascii_field today.
16:54 trinque so I go over there with a flamethrower and a bandana on my face, then fuck the ashes?
16:54 trinque got it
16:56 trinque it'd be a neat company to have, something which built heavily fortified homes
16:56 trinque wonder if there's a market for that
16:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88187 @ 0.00054224 = 47.8185 BTC [+] {2}
16:57 trinque if I someday neither hear, smell, nor see neighbors, that'll be a good close to chapter one
16:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 104900 @ 0.00051838 = 54.3781 BTC [-] {4}
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17:13 ben_vulpes neat to hear about musl, asciilifeform
17:13 ben_vulpes my stator's up to 347786
17:14 ascii_field ben_vulpes: once you have a known-good blockchain, just copy it
17:14 ben_vulpes ascii_field: i know that it takes longer, but i like to actually exercise the sync mechanism once every five builds or so
17:15 ben_vulpes anyways i was poking at hunchentoot in service of making an httoy out of some of the patches that you've posted recently and discovered that the sbcl i had on the plane didn't support threads
17:16 trinque aw
17:17 trinque man I would've bought the scam wifi for a flight that long
17:17 ascii_field ben_vulpes: tried 'verifyall' yet ?
17:17 ascii_field that's kinda what it was for
17:17 mod6 im running it on two seperate envs now actually.
17:17 mod6 ones at 294k and the other... 158k
17:18 mod6 !up ascii_field
17:18 ben_vulpes trinque: wifi over ocean: yes. cell for scammers to resell - no
17:19 ben_vulpes the wifi is actually free
17:19 ben_vulpes ascii_field: no, i have not tried verifyall yet
17:20 ben_vulpes just reading your patches and thinking about how to exercise them is a quarter-time job
17:20 ascii_field waiwut
17:20 ascii_field really not much in the patches thus far
17:20 ascii_field mostly antimatter
17:20 ascii_field wait till the ~real~ patches, l0l
17:21 ben_vulpes keep in mind that this is how i'm learning cpp
17:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40950 @ 0.00051968 = 21.2809 BTC [+]
17:23 ben_vulpes ascii_field: the only way to re-verify a chain-on-disk right now is to dump and re-eat all blocks, correct?
17:24 ascii_field ben_vulpes: that, or twiddle the relevant constant
17:24 ascii_field (i forget precisely where. oughta be a patch!)
17:24 ben_vulpes hrm? what constant is this
17:25 ben_vulpes the only thing i'm aware of in the 'mainstream' codebasen is the "rescan" thinger, but that only looks for transactions relevant to the wallet
17:26 ascii_field -checkblocks
17:26 ascii_field looks like we have it, already
17:30 ben_vulpes lol and completely absent from the usage message
17:30 ascii_field aha.
17:30 ascii_field (it was like this in 0.5.3 iirc)
17:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83050 @ 0.00051664 = 42.907 BTC [-] {2}
17:31 ben_vulpes jesus christ
17:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67733 @ 0.00053583 = 36.2934 BTC [+] {2}
17:35 ben_vulpes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-07-2015#1203701 << all i know is that programming sucks and some ways of doing it suck a little less than others.
17:35 assbot Logged on 16-07-2015 21:07:59; mats: if you hate something, thats fine, but i expect specific and reasoned judgment; its well and good to despise node.js, or javascript, or c++, but i catch a funny smell in here when folks more or less coopt the opinions of their perceived betters
17:42 trinque and if the opinion is justified and the hate remains?
17:42 trinque anyhow, the thread thereafter addressed it.
17:44 ascii_field 'In addition to the ACPI feature, remote wake-up (including AMD Magic Packet and Microsoft Wake-up frame) is supported in both ACPI and APM (Advanced Power Management) environments. To support WOL from a deep power down state (e.g., D3cold, i.e., main power is off and only auxiliary exists), the auxiliary power source must be able to provide the needed power... ...The RTL8111E supports Protocol offload. It offloads some
17:44 ascii_field of the most common protocols to NIC hardware in order to prevent spurious wake up and further reduce power consumption. The RTL8111E can offload ARP (IPv4) and NS (IPv6) protocols while in the D3 power saving state. '
17:44 ascii_field ^ lulzy
17:44 ascii_field mircea_popescu ^
17:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 114750 @ 0.00051561 = 59.1662 BTC [-] {3}
17:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54600 @ 0.00051464 = 28.0993 BTC [-] {2}
17:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6803 @ 0.00053882 = 3.6656 BTC [+] {2}
17:57 ag3nt_zer0 hi there
17:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36486 @ 0.00054786 = 19.9892 BTC [+] {5}
17:58 trinque good afternoon, how goes?
17:58 shinohai sup ag3nt_zer0
17:58 mircea_popescu hey ben_vulpes trinque do i have this right, you mostly make apple store games ?
17:58 ag3nt_zer0 hey trinque fine just trying to install eulora here... you?
17:58 ag3nt_zer0 hey shinohai
17:58 trinque mircea_popescu: nah, I do web turds
17:59 mircea_popescu ah i thought you wored together on same firm thing
17:59 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: not games, no
17:59 mircea_popescu but what ?
17:59 ben_vulpes except insofar as vc-backed shartups are games
18:00 ben_vulpes ios and android and webturd "engineering" horsepower as a service
18:00 ben_vulpes if someone were so foolish as to want to pay us to build a game we could
18:01 ben_vulpes everything from promotional apps to apps for insurance companies to internal business process web applications
18:01 ag3nt_zer0 do I need to be in particular directory for this to work? "You'll need to install several support libraries via MacPorts. Run sudo port install (package-name) for all of the packages in the first two lists here." - I enter this and it says Error port opengl not found
18:01 mircea_popescu what'd cost me for you to make the eulora client into an ipad app ?
18:01 mircea_popescu but only if you actually can do the whole chain, i don't wish to touch apple. so if yo ucan get it into their store thing etc.
18:01 ben_vulpes yeah generally the first thing we ask for is root on your apple account
18:01 ben_vulpes then your servers
18:02 mircea_popescu i do not have an apple account nor would be getting one.
18:02 mircea_popescu hahaha mno.
18:02 mircea_popescu you get the c++ turdball that's the client.
18:02 ben_vulpes then your children
18:02 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
18:02 mircea_popescu i only give my children to women.
18:02 * ascii_field will be rather surprised if the thing passes the censors
18:02 ben_vulpes i do have some understanding of how you work
18:02 mircea_popescu ag3nt_zer0 yes you do, but that doesn't sound like a wrong directory problem
18:03 ag3nt_zer0 entered this sudo port install OpenGL
18:03 ben_vulpes first thing to be aware of is that if it has anything to do with bitcoin and transacting stuff it's going to be a bitch to get past the 'reviewers'
18:03 ben_vulpes censors as alf sez
18:03 ben_vulpes but uh a pile of money probably
18:03 mircea_popescu i don't see how it does.
18:03 ben_vulpes over 9000
18:04 ag3nt_zer0 mircea_popescu: I am in home directory, where should I be?
18:06 mircea_popescu i personally never got a mac. best everyone knows is in the wiki, you reading that ?
18:06 ag3nt_zer0 yeah
18:06 trinque ag3nt_zer0: macports doesn't care what directory you're in
18:06 ag3nt_zer0 hmmm ok
18:07 trinque ag3nt_zer0: try doing a sudo port selfupdate first?
18:07 ascii_field speaking of all of this, i realized not long ago that one could easily do a 'pogo' for some shitablet or other
18:08 ascii_field (replacing turdroid etc. in the rom)
18:08 trinque yeah, with external storage?
18:08 trinque pretty sure all tablet makers still charge out the ass for more than a pittance of storage
18:10 mircea_popescu iirc tablets come with 8-16-etc gb
18:10 ascii_field usb jack
18:11 mircea_popescu that's not so common
18:11 ascii_field sop on turdroid
18:11 ascii_field (often needs a cheap mechanical adapter from 'micro' to female 'a')
18:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60250 @ 0.00051453 = 31.0004 BTC [-] {3}
18:21 ag3nt_zer0 well sent a pm to phf hopefully he can help...
18:22 ben_vulpes !s block777
18:22 assbot 0 results for 'block777' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=block777
18:22 ben_vulpes !s http://block777.com/
18:22 assbot Block 777 - Bitcoin Blockchain Betting Game ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ol4sRX )
18:22 assbot 0 results for 'http://block777.com/' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fblock777.com%2F
18:22 ben_vulpes 'tis lulzy
18:23 ben_vulpes makes the eyes bleed, but lulzy nevertheless
18:37 williamdunne mircea_popescu: they make micro-usb to usb adapters that plug into the charger port
18:38 ben_vulpes http://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2013/01/nigerias-illegal-oil-refineries/n12_RTR3CGTO/main_1200.jpg
18:38 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ol6npw )
18:39 williamdunne Is that a Romanian flag on that tuktuk
18:40 williamdunne Yep
18:41 williamdunne mircea_popescu: For example this can be used to simultaneously charge a phone and give it access to a USB port of its own; http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Micro-USB-Host-Cable-Male-to-USB-Female-OTG-Cable-USB-Male-Y-Cable-For-Note-4-/291373357246?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item43d73498be
18:41 assbot Micro USB Host Cable Male to USB Female OTG Cable + USB Male Y Cable For Note 4 | eBay ... ( http://bit.ly/1J5ZJDt )
18:41 williamdunne Oh wrong about charging part, that's to power whatever is plugged in via usb, lame
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19:04 gabriel_laddel ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2006/07/wizard-school.html
19:04 assbot Stevey's Blog Rants: Wizard School ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ol9BJx )
19:05 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
19:05 ascii_field gabriel_laddel: wat
19:06 gabriel_laddel ascii_field: reference material for ben+pete's school for kids who might maybe not suck one day
19:06 jurov it's named "on the go" connector
19:06 jurov and yes, it's not for 24/7
19:06 ascii_field gabriel_laddel: it's a lul by the fella who wrote 'lisp is not an acceptable lisp'
19:06 gabriel_laddel ascii_field: I know.
19:06 gabriel_laddel I've read everything Mr. Yegge has written
19:06 ascii_field jurov: why not 24/7
19:07 jurov cuz not charging.
19:07 ascii_field i have hardware powered by 'usb otg' jacks going 24/7...
19:07 ascii_field data lines still work
19:07 jurov the droid acts as usb host and it is supposed to provide power
19:08 jurov you'll have to recharge it some other way then
19:08 ascii_field i bet this can be finessed
19:09 ascii_field i ordered a 'miracast' last week, would have tested this already, but it was delayed in the post
19:09 jurov i have proposed to use n900's in such manner, less shitty and more OSS than droids, was immediately shot down
19:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16850 @ 0.00053729 = 9.0533 BTC [+]
19:09 jurov seems we are getting desperate :)
19:09 ascii_field jurov: not so much desperate as the fact that i found a device available for $10-15 ~NEW~ from cn, with 256 (or even 512) MB of ram
19:10 ascii_field and powered via usbotg
19:10 ascii_field new+multivendor is a major plus imho
19:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51250 @ 0.00054542 = 27.9528 BTC [+] {3}
19:21 ag3nt_zer0 anyone have any thoughts on the Jolla?
19:21 ag3nt_zer0 and/or neo900?
19:22 ascii_field €249.00
19:22 ascii_field irrelevant.
19:22 ascii_field at least - to therealbitcoin.
19:22 ascii_field can buy a fucking computer for that.
19:23 ascii_field or 12 pogos
19:23 ascii_field 14
19:24 williamdunne 00:06:08 - gabriel_laddel: ascii_field: reference material for ben+pete's school for kids who might maybe not suck one day <<< isn't that what #b-a is anyway? At least that's how I'm trying to use it.
19:25 ascii_field ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/sHdFpXq.gif
19:25 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1MbdhP5 )
19:25 gribble The operation succeeded.
19:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31500 @ 0.0005507 = 17.3471 BTC [+]
19:35 jurov !s WLX-652
19:35 assbot 0 results for 'WLX-652' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=WLX-652
19:35 jurov ^ just found this pogo sibling. but nowhere they say how much mem does it have
19:36 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
19:36 ascii_field jurov: found a supplier for these ?
19:36 ascii_field (as far as i can tell, they're extinct ...?)
19:37 jurov http://www.dx.com/p/standalone-bittorrent-bt-client-upnp-usb-nas-ftp-samba-printer-sharing-network-lan-server-20383#.VamNyDJ9zmE
19:37 assbot Standalone BitTorrent BT Client + UPNP USB/NAS/FTP/SAMBA/Printer Sharing Network LAN Server - Free Shipping - DealExtreme ... ( http://bit.ly/1MbeaqQ )
19:38 ascii_field expensive
19:38 ascii_field https://snake-os.googlecode.com/files/snake_os_User_man_12_01_13.pdf << claims 32MB of ram
19:38 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1MbehT8 )
19:39 ascii_field which is what is in my 'hootoo', costing less than half
19:39 jurov 32? then yes, expensive
19:39 ascii_field (we are, sadly, nowhere near the point where we can live in 32)
19:44 jurov back to pogo, all mSATA drives i see are 5-6cm long and impossible to fit inside
19:44 jurov what's supposed to go there at all?
19:44 ascii_field msata ?
19:44 ascii_field pogo has no msata
19:44 danielpbarron the top pops off
19:45 danielpbarron i left that piece on
19:45 ascii_field has normal 'laptop' sata
19:45 danielpbarron drive will stick awkwardly out the top
19:45 jurov ah. so msata won't fit?
19:45 ascii_field http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/electronics/networkstorage/pogo/B005GM1Q1O/B006I5MKZY-interfaces-08l.jpg
19:45 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mbf0nf )
19:45 ascii_field http://media.bestofmicro.com/B/X/350349/original/msata_sata500px.png
19:45 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mbf72e )
19:46 ascii_field the naked pcb thing is what is normally called 'msata'
19:46 ascii_field no such jack in pogo
19:46 ascii_field only laptop-sata (bottom of photo)
19:47 jurov but 2.5" drive won't fit
19:47 * jurov is confused
19:47 ascii_field jurov: it fits
19:47 ascii_field did you remove the dust cover from the pogo ?
19:47 jurov only with top cover completely off and pcb bare
19:47 ascii_field don't strip the pcb, you need the plastic cradle
19:47 ascii_field or the jack is likely to break off
19:48 ascii_field if you have a peculiar drive that won't sit down in the cradle - post photo ?
19:49 jurov so you say Kingston SSDNow V300 2.5" drive will fit in the slit? that's not possible
19:49 ascii_field that is precisely the shape of the drive sitting in mine
19:50 jurov can you post photo of whole setup?
19:50 ascii_field i did, long ago; in the log
19:50 ascii_field presently digging for it
19:51 jurov that drive is 7cm wide and the slit in the cover is only 4.5cm
19:51 ascii_field jurov: you must have something very odd going on. plz post pic
19:53 jurov oh i get it now. the connector protrudes out of the cover
19:53 ascii_field jurov: http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/jsp724/imgs/b/f/bf8da3a9.jpg << not mine - but this is what it will look like.
19:54 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mbg1fa )
19:54 danielpbarron jurov, http://i.imgur.com/tm6nK30.jpg
19:54 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mbg5M7 )
19:54 jurov ok
19:56 jurov danielpbarron: how much free space you have left?
19:56 ascii_field http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/jsp724/imgs/f/2/f22a61e7.jpg << can use with other shapes
19:56 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1MbgduU )
19:56 mircea_popescu well this was the sight of all time
19:57 ascii_field which
19:57 danielpbarron jurov, /dev/root 109G 58G 45G 57% /
19:57 mircea_popescu so the procuraderia de la nacion, which is basiucally the da's office, has this gated off entryway. in that entryway, stored two meters from the grating, eight five gallon plastic containers full of gasoline.
19:57 mircea_popescu nevermind that i dunno where it's even legal to store gasoline in plastic.
19:57 ascii_field ^ sop in usa
19:58 mircea_popescu anyone can be a terrorist for the price of a quarter dollar cigar.
19:58 mircea_popescu ascii_field in eu you can go to jail for doing that. gotta use metal.
19:58 ascii_field mircea_popescu: which metal ?
19:58 ascii_field steel - sparks...
19:59 mircea_popescu there's an alloy
19:59 mircea_popescu i think its mostly tin
20:00 ascii_field in usa everyone uses either the red plastic bottles, or goes to antique shop and buys nazi 'jerry can'
20:00 mircea_popescu nuts.
20:01 mircea_popescu yes, jerry can, that's the proper item
20:01 ascii_field also turns out that the other pogo (the one still in print) has internal sata
20:03 mircea_popescu how big ?
20:04 ascii_field empty jack
20:05 mircea_popescu williamdunne i c.
20:05 mircea_popescu spreading the news : http://31.media.tumblr.com/a4d16cb626a7d4213b9b6ae3500b296c/tumblr_n4vyxoGeid1txo69co1_500.gif
20:05 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mbh92v )
20:09 mircea_popescu "Some people have been mailing me lately, random people asking me if their kids should go. It's expensive. Way expensive. Tough choice to make, even now, with Wizard Academy grads making anywhere from a quarter million to a million a year, while the rest of us plod away in 5-figure territory."
20:09 mircea_popescu what the fuck is he on about ?
20:09 mircea_popescu i guess im a later adopter than even yegge.
20:11 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
20:11 ascii_field mircea_popescu: he was describing, i think, a fantasy
20:11 mircea_popescu by now it's impossible to tell satire from an obama speech.
20:11 ascii_field some sort of school
20:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35900 @ 0.00053131 = 19.074 BTC [-] {2}
20:13 mircea_popescu http://www.chapeldulcinea.org/are-you-guys-a-cult-or-what/
20:13 assbot Chapel Dulcinea - The Free Wedding Chapel - Are You Guys a Cult, or What? ... ( http://bit.ly/1MbhUbR )
20:14 mircea_popescu "Roy Hollister Williams is a best selling author and marketing consultant best known for his Wizard of Ads trilogy. He is founder of the Wizard Academy institute and currently lives in Austin, Texas with his wife Pennie."
20:14 mircea_popescu wikipedia, ever so endearing.
20:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57620 @ 0.00051816 = 29.8564 BTC [-]
20:31 jurov !mpif
20:31 assbot BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021447 B (Total: 426.11 B). Delta: 0.15 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.000207 BTC [+]
20:32 jurov !t m f.mpif
20:32 assbot Good morning, may you serve the Lord, and may His holy dominion guide you through your dismal life.
20:32 jurov O
20:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23350 @ 0.00051453 = 12.0143 BTC [-] {2}
20:43 mod6 <+ascii_field> in usa everyone uses either the red plastic bottles, or goes to antique shop and buys nazi 'jerry can' << at some point in the last 6+ years, the USSA standardized the can. Now it seems you can only by 1 standard type of red-plastic gas can. And the f'ing pour spout does not work. It is a worthless pile of shit. It makes you twist and unlock it or some crazy shit. Now, I just throw the spout away, and pour through a funnel fro
20:44 mod6 It drives me nuts, because I can't find a regular old-school (even a plastic one with a normal pour spout) to save my life. Might have to check at garage sales or something. All major stores only carry Soviet Gas can.
20:44 mod6 </rant>
20:45 mod6 haha, "Welcome to socialism! Here's this new gas can to save your retard children from drinking it while you're off doing important things."
20:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13965 @ 0.00052392 = 7.3165 BTC [+]
20:49 mod6 Oh and did I mention there's no rear breather hole to let the stream pour smoothly?
20:49 mod6 Nope.
20:49 mod6 srsly.what.in.the.fuck.is.happening.net
20:51 mod6 this is the spout: i.ytimg.com/vi/nytxlA-G1Sk/maxresdefault.jpg
20:52 danielpbarron heh, that url resolves
20:52 cazalla mod6, that looks like a combi can, not sure
20:54 mod6 ah, you know, just searching for it... looks like i can by a non-retarded gascan online easy enough.
20:54 mod6 i feel like i've said all this before in here too, then jurov linked me to something lol.
20:55 mod6 maybe i dreamed it
20:56 mod6 this is what i really want: www.hearth.com/talk/attachments/img_0736-jpg.72703/
20:57 cazalla google search shows it to be an eco but quite similar to a combi can.. seems to be user error imo :P
20:57 mod6 yeah, eco can. im not the only one, search "new gas can sucks"
20:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46350 @ 0.00053986 = 25.0225 BTC [+]
20:58 mod6 the first one i ever used i snapped the fucker while trying to unlock it...
20:59 mod6 i was so mad. the girl didn't want to talk to me for 20 minutes because she said was laughing like i was insane.
20:59 cazalla never used an eco can so i can't say, i just use one of these http://i.imgur.com/hcbpjLY.jpg with a spout but when i was doing some chainsaw work, they had these newfangled combi cans and those things are awesome
20:59 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1MzbBwC )
21:00 cazalla a funnel i mean.. spout lol
21:00 mod6 wow. that's different.
21:01 cazalla that is your typical petrol can found here
21:01 cazalla for your mower and whipper snipper anyway
21:02 mod6 `whipper snipper' that's fantasic. im gonna call it that from now on.
21:02 cazalla what do you call it?
21:02 danielpbarron weed whacker
21:02 mod6 here it's called `weed wacker' or 'weed whip'
21:03 cazalla nah mate, it's a whipper snipper
21:03 mod6 that's so much better.
21:03 mod6 this channel is awesome
21:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40770 @ 0.00054615 = 22.2665 BTC [+]
21:09 trinque lol wtf
21:09 trinque I just got a 500gb SSD in the mail supposedly for amazon
21:10 trinque for someone who does not live here... with no receipt or anything in the packaging
21:10 mats i bought one, it was 150
21:10 mats 'Prime Day'
21:10 trinque sweet
21:10 trinque this drive is not getting plugged into shit
21:10 mod6 tomato bath
21:11 trinque mod6: haha wassat?
21:11 mats does that work on SSDs?
21:11 mats suggested method to corrode mechanical drives
21:11 trinque ah
21:11 mod6 ah, suppose not.
21:11 mod6 melt with blowtorch
21:11 mats or just return it to sender
21:11 trinque yeah, going to call amazon and ask wtf
21:11 mats its expensive enough someone might go looking for it
21:12 mod6 http://trilema.com/2014/spy-stuff
21:12 assbot Spy stuff on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mzckhw )
21:13 trinque "As you can see, inasmuch as the seal has not been broken, the warranty still stands." << lol!
21:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00054277 = 6.079 BTC [-] {2}
21:14 mod6 haha
21:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37650 @ 0.00053767 = 20.2433 BTC [-]
21:18 decimation mod6: http://lfb.org/how-government-wrecked-the-gas-can/ < of course, the reason for you gas can problems is usg
21:18 assbot How Government Wrecked the Gas Can ... ( http://bit.ly/1MzcGVc )
21:18 decimation they didn't pass a law, they just made it known that making gas cans that vent to the atmosphere wouldn't make them very happy
21:18 decimation "There’s also the problem of the exploding can. On hot days, the plastic models to which this regulation applies can blow up like balloons. When you release the top, gas flies everywhere, including possibly on a hot engine. "
21:21 mod6 bah, i've lived in one of the hottest places in the world. sure, the cans get bloated a bit. just don't stick your face 1" from the thing when opening the lid. simple.
21:22 mod6 my favorite: "So for the last three years, you have not been able to buy gas cans that work properly. ..."
21:23 mod6 and it is true, i spill much more gas pouring it out of the open mouth without shitsucker nozzle into a funnel with no goddamn breather hole.
21:23 mod6 but fuck 'em
21:24 trinque mod6: yeah, lived in tx for a long time, had these
21:24 trinque you just peel the thing slowly
21:24 trinque though I never recall having one without a vent at all
21:26 mod6 really?
21:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20508 @ 0.00054904 = 11.2597 BTC [+] {2}
21:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31589 @ 0.00055073 = 17.397 BTC [+] {2}
21:28 trinque yeah, mine had tiny pinhole vents with a plastic cover
21:28 trinque and then the spout on the other end
21:29 trinque they still bloated up though and hissed when you popped the vent
21:29 mod6 typicall usg: take something that works perfectly well and then wreck the goddamnthing
21:31 trinque somebody probably knew somebody that made the tardspout
21:31 mod6 oh ya
21:32 mod6 what's also obnoxious about it, is now i cant easily pour gas on my fire like a normal person.
21:33 mod6 i've got a wide mouth USG pos that would light my damn balls on fire in the process.
21:34 trinque heh for this and other reasons, bitcoin.
21:34 mod6 so now i have to fill up a plastic/glass cup and then throw it in there from a distance.
21:34 trinque and really, is there any higher freedom than pyrotechnic freedom?
21:34 mod6 im sayin'!
21:35 asciilifeform aha, got one of these pieces of shit
21:35 asciilifeform you can buy the nato-standard metal can (copy of nazi item) from various places. for now.
21:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42403 @ 0.00051453 = 21.8176 BTC [-]
21:36 asciilifeform in other nyooz,
21:36 trinque how bout that, something that looks like a fucking tool
21:37 * trinque will have to see if the local army surplus has it
21:37 asciilifeform ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, jurov, et al: http://imgur.com/RZjoXb9 << arm a9; 256M ram; 802.11; hdmi; usb
21:37 assbot Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1MzdJ7E )
21:38 asciilifeform <mod6> It drives me nuts, because I can't find a regular old-school (even a plastic one with a normal pour spout) to save my life. Might have to check at garage sales or something. All major stores only carry Soviet Gas can. << this is mega-lulzy because ~actual~ soviet gas cans were 100% metal, on the german pattern
21:39 ben_vulpes ikura desu ka, asciilifeform?
21:39 ben_vulpes how much does it cost, and does it *nix?
21:40 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: this one was ~17 usd (with postage)
21:40 asciilifeform and yes
21:40 asciilifeform (the plug in the picture was another few)
21:41 ben_vulpes goodness. usb hdmi and all.
21:41 ben_vulpes we can have wifi in the cardano after all!
21:41 ben_vulpes someone call spamgun.
21:41 asciilifeform l0l
21:42 asciilifeform this one is for item mentioned earlier, 'what is the barfiest hardware that might host a node' inquiry.
21:43 ben_vulpes <BingoBoingo> <mircea_popescu> in retrospect, his going to war with the dealers sunk his car business. << Beware the trade guilds << prole ownership of cars is going away. period.
21:44 ben_vulpes witness car2go, zipcar, the whole nine.
21:44 ben_vulpes end game here is a share in a robo fleet.
21:44 ben_vulpes might even approach full utilization of the capital equipment that way, instead of this insane 1:1 car:butt ratio where they're mostly stationary all of the time.
21:49 mod6 i like how ascii has the oldest looking deck of cards i've seen.
21:50 ben_vulpes probably brought them over himself.
21:50 ben_vulpes and not in the checked bags.
21:50 mod6 he has a eye for antique stuff.
21:50 mod6 when we were at the bazzar there was a bunch of neat trinkets
21:52 mod6 ok so you use this miracast thing and you link up a 500gb usb drive, good to go?
21:52 mod6 (is this like a google tv-like thing?)
21:54 asciilifeform mod6: still need to do a buildroot for this bugger
21:54 asciilifeform and also jurov pointed to a possible boojum (though i have seen account of others who did use usb storage with these)
21:54 mod6 ah. ok. looks like this one im looking at on google is $13.46 is that about what the cost is?
21:55 asciilifeform varies
21:55 mod6 sure, but about same cost as pogo?
21:55 decimation asciilifeform: worst case you can use it to watch turd tv
21:55 asciilifeform (depending on ram, single/dual/quad core cpu, etc)
21:55 asciilifeform decimation: the included fw doesn't display anything useful. just a menu where you can connect to local wifi
21:55 decimation what's the point then?
21:56 asciilifeform certain pnohes/tardablets are, i'm told, able to throw a picture to these things
21:56 decimation sounds usless
21:56 asciilifeform aha
21:56 asciilifeform hence cheap.
21:56 asciilifeform no one thinks 'it is a computer'
21:56 decimation I was reading my ham radio experimenters magazine today
21:57 asciilifeform but it's a linux box, slightly faster than 'pogo'
21:57 decimation the writer of an article was complaining that some of the designs featured in earlier articles are cranked out by chinese and sold on ebay
21:57 decimation in this case it was an LC meter I think
21:57 asciilifeform mod6: same cost as pogo - the castrato sata-less one - yes. but recall that pogo is a dwindling non-renewable resource
21:57 asciilifeform hence the slow, leisurely search for possible alternatives
21:58 decimation this guy http://www.dg5mk.de/pages/artikel/dg5mk-lcq-meter.php
21:58 assbot DG5MK - DG5MK LCQ-Meter ... ( http://bit.ly/1I9GIRB )
21:58 mod6 asciilifeform: very cool.
21:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00052251 = 10.9727 BTC [+]
21:59 mod6 how hard is gonna be to do a new buildroot for this one?
21:59 asciilifeform mod6: no idea yet
22:00 mod6 *nod*
22:00 asciilifeform mod6: seems like the chinese units can be reflashed via usb; while google's 'chromecast', which is the exact same item but at double cost, has to be diddled via the on-board test points
22:00 decimation http://www.autoblog.com/2015/07/17/tesla-announces-model-s-ludicrous-upgrade-90-kwh-battery/ < tesla figures out how to milk more cash from the only market they can: current owners
22:00 assbot Tesla announces Model S Ludicrous upgrade, 90-kWh battery ... ( http://bit.ly/1I9GM3N )
22:00 mod6 i'll give one a try as soon as it's built and ready to test.
22:00 decimation "
22:00 decimation Details for how Tesla can offer this quicker option can be found in CEO Elon Musk's blog post (available below), but the gist is that a new advanced smart fuse for the battery allows an increase in the maximum amp throughout from 1,300 to 1,500 amps. This will cost new buyers $10,000, but current P85D owners can get the upgrade pack electronics for $5,000 plus installation labor, for the next six months."
22:01 asciilifeform decimation: waitasec. 90kWh ?
22:01 decimation yeah, they stuff more lithium batteries I guess
22:01 asciilifeform nono, think
22:01 asciilifeform take an ordinary petrol engine
22:01 asciilifeform say, 100 horse
22:02 asciilifeform 74600 W
22:02 asciilifeform so ~75kW
22:02 decimation that's the equivalent energy of about 2.5 gal of gas
22:02 asciilifeform and that's all you get in this mega-car ?!
22:02 decimation yep
22:02 decimation hey, it's better than 1 gal
22:03 decimation asciilifeform: batteries suck, what you gonna do
22:03 decimation if batteries were about 10x more energy density they would be the no-brainer solution
22:03 * asciilifeform thought, for some odd reason, that 'tesla' included an astonishingly large battery
22:03 decimation ^ save the laser fire in the streets
22:03 decimation no no 90 kwh is the 'upgrade'
22:03 asciilifeform and that it behaved somewhat like a proper car
22:03 decimation it does, for about 100 miles I think
22:04 ben_vulpes bwahaha
22:04 ben_vulpes i'll take the ancient corvette any day.
22:04 mats nah, does like 200-250mi in california iirc
22:04 asciilifeform i could, just possibly, get to office & back in this machine
22:04 asciilifeform if no radio and no headlights.
22:04 ben_vulpes or ac!
22:04 asciilifeform aha.
22:05 asciilifeform (and no heat. in petrol car, you get engine heat 'for phree' in wintertime)
22:05 ben_vulpes my ac is plumbed from the hydraulic system
22:05 ben_vulpes kills mileage
22:05 decimation yeah I suppose they have some kind of heat pump
22:05 mats http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=32557 << says 265mi when new
22:05 assbot Compare Side-by-Side ... ( http://bit.ly/1I9H0YK )
22:05 ben_vulpes refrigerates
22:05 ben_vulpes god bless america.
22:05 mats which is almost half what a hybrid does.
22:05 ben_vulpes stop trying to disrupt the ice.
22:05 ben_vulpes it is terrifically good at what it does.
22:05 decimation there's only so much efficiency you can glean out of 2.5 gal of gas
22:06 decimation plus, unlike gas, it takes hours to 'fill' instead of seconds
22:06 decimation and the batteries get worse with age and cold
22:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9936 @ 0.00055096 = 5.4743 BTC [+]
22:07 ben_vulpes there's also the 'battery paste' stuff
22:07 mats i'm cheering for tesla to somehow succeed, if musk improves batt tech thats a net win for mankind
22:07 decimation even if improved by a factor of 2x (energy density at the same cost) it would be a huge win
22:07 ben_vulpes why?
22:07 ben_vulpes just price gas out of everyone's hands.
22:08 decimation heh
22:08 asciilifeform mats: afaik, 'tesla' has done nothing whatsoever for battery tech
22:08 ben_vulpes no, seriously mats decimation. why improve batteries?
22:08 decimation no there was a 'tesla teardown' I linked here awhile ago
22:08 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: laser pistolz!
22:08 asciilifeform why else.
22:08 decimation ben_vulpes: there are loads of applications that become possible if you have portable high energy source
22:08 ben_vulpes such as?
22:08 decimation like lazer pistols
22:08 decimation or 500 mile range electric cars
22:08 ben_vulpes and what i ask again is wrong with bullets.
22:09 ben_vulpes or the ice.
22:09 mod6 cell phones that last longer than 8 hours.
22:09 decimation or home energy storage
22:09 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: recall the thread about 'brass is made at izhevsk' ?
22:09 ben_vulpes the cell phone was a bad branch on the tech tree.
22:09 mats well, this is thinking small, but i'd like a 'smartphone' that runs longer than 24h
22:09 asciilifeform that's what's wrong with bullet.
22:09 ben_vulpes well, tablet phone.
22:09 ben_vulpes startac did no wrong
22:09 decimation or double the power for the processor at the same lifetime
22:09 ben_vulpes razr did no wrong
22:10 decimation ;;lasers
22:10 gribble ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
22:10 ben_vulpes i'm growing fond of mp and alf's attitudes towards workstations.
22:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00053475 = 5.9357 BTC [-] {2}
22:10 ben_vulpes laptops are going to become more and more impenetrable boxes of turdware.
22:10 decimation the main advantage to workstations: ecc and raid
22:10 ben_vulpes unrepairable, unimproveable.
22:10 ben_vulpes decimation: and ergonomics!
22:10 ben_vulpes decimation: and security!
22:10 decimation the last bit I'm not sure about
22:10 ben_vulpes decimation: and power!
22:11 decimation agreed
22:11 ben_vulpes you do not get the F1 engine power when derping around like armadillo.
22:11 mod6 <+ben_vulpes> decimation: and security! << at lesat you can easily rip out the shit you don't want. as opposed to debate weather or not to get rid of the screen.
22:12 ben_vulpes i mean physical security, but sure.
22:12 ben_vulpes vaultputer, so to speak.
22:12 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: speaking of
22:12 ben_vulpes mhm?
22:12 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: 'vaultputer' - recall the ancient thread re: nuke test compliance geosensors ?
22:13 decimation even vaultputer needs i/o
22:13 mircea_popescu mod6 lol wut!
22:13 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: can take small computer, instrument with geophones, etc, and pour cement.
22:13 mircea_popescu that looks retarded
22:13 decimation https://plus.google.com/+LinusTorvalds/posts/DiG9qANf5PA "Something you did recently has been an unmitigated disaster. Of the roughly 1000 spam threads I've gone through so far, right now 228 threads were incorrectly marked as spam."
22:13 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1GrKT3I )
22:13 decimation ^ Linus bitching about gmail
22:14 ben_vulpes decimation: they are now refusing to mark spam for me.
22:14 mod6 mircea_popescu: wifi antennas
22:14 ben_vulpes i suspect that fitbit is paying to get through their filter.
22:14 mircea_popescu <mod6> this channel is awesome << bwahahyaha okay.
22:14 decimation I thought the whole point of spam was to force you onto gmail
22:14 asciilifeform ^
22:15 asciilifeform 'It wouldn’t surprise me to find, for example, a sudden proliferation of heavy-duty “water cans” in 1- and 5-gallon sizes, complete with nice spouts and vents, looking almost exactly like the gas cans you could get anywhere just a few years ago. How very interesting to discover this. Of course, this law-abiding writer would never advocate buying one of these and using it for some purpose other than what is written on the
22:15 asciilifeform package. Doing something like that would show profound disrespect for our betters in the bureaucracies. And if I did suggest something like that, there’s no telling the trouble that it would bring down on my head.'
22:16 asciilifeform ^ l0lz!
22:16 asciilifeform 'Ask yourself this: If they can wreck such a normal and traditional item like this, and do it largely under the radar screen, what else have they mandatorily malfunctioned? How many other things in our daily lives have been distorted, deformed and destroyed by government regulations? If some product annoys you in surprising ways, there’s a good chance that it is not the invisible hand at work, but rather the regulatory grip
22:16 asciilifeform that is squeezing the life out of civilization itself.'
22:17 ag3nt_zer0 mircea_popescu: do you know where this file resides? 6. Compile Eulora Add the following line to ~/.bash_profile:
22:17 asciilifeform ^ actually 9 out of 10 times that i smash some piece of shit from sheer contempt, it is because of chinafication and 'market' penny-shaving, rather than direct usg mandated suck
22:17 mircea_popescu i dont but try find -name bash.profile ?
22:18 mircea_popescu asciilifeform from what i gather the proposition is that these aren't different.
22:18 mod6 next they'll sell us a toothbrush that doubles as a jackhammer. won't need to prop up the dental insurance companies any more, no one will have any more cavity laden teeth.
22:18 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: this is just so. but i don't think the fella who wrote the linked piece, would agree
22:18 mircea_popescu it has a little leg to stand on, at least. inasmuch as usg claims a mandate to regulate everything, every failure of regulation is on their head.
22:18 mircea_popescu well, what people do and what people mean to do may diverge, but nobody cares about the latter. the fellow who wrote it necessarily agrees, in the writing.
22:19 asciilifeform the gas can item is notable for the sheer ham-handedness of the usgification
22:19 asciilifeform normally they find some way to 'market-wash' the suck
22:19 asciilifeform make it seem inevitable, wholesome, capitalistic.
22:20 asciilifeform like that chinese flashlight, with micro and eeprom
22:20 * asciilifeform learned that he still has the pieces of that thing, in a box, somewhere
22:20 decimation or the phasing out of proper refrigerant
22:20 asciilifeform ^ nah, that was quite a bit more like the fuel cna
22:20 asciilifeform can
22:20 decimation heh true
22:20 asciilifeform 'envirowhinerism: expensive, shoddy, deadly.' -- uncle al
22:21 mircea_popescu or the incredibly colonialist "now that the third world can produce lightbulbs, it's time to 'move on' to a toxic 'alternative' that looks god awful and will poison the immediate environment with mercury"
22:21 mats fake pyrex
22:21 mats le sigh
22:21 mircea_popescu imo that's the top of the list of that stupid shit, and it's not even usian
22:21 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: and when they gear up to blow the glass, fill it up? time for white led
22:22 asciilifeform full of rare earths
22:22 mircea_popescu yes. the lightbulb scandal is the one thing to hang people for.
22:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76174 @ 0.00055117 = 41.9848 BTC [+] {2}
22:22 mircea_popescu actually even above the "global warming" sham.
22:22 asciilifeform the white led has got to be an asian revenge for the ccfl though
22:22 asciilifeform usa is poor in rare earths
22:22 mircea_popescu usa is poor in anything but bison.
22:23 asciilifeform until recently - helium was a u.s. monopoly
22:23 asciilifeform but it was spent. (how? homeland severity! neutron detectors at border checkpoints, $maxint)
22:23 decimation actually they have plenty of them in the ground, it's just not very profitablel to mine/process
22:24 asciilifeform it's a decay daughter
22:24 asciilifeform so only so much of it in there, at one time.
22:25 decimation no I meant the rare earths, helium is a problem
22:25 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: do you recall the philips cartel? the history of 'squeeze the third world out of light bulbs' is almost a century long !
22:25 decimation really there's no 'running out' of any element - just 'no longer cheap'
22:26 asciilifeform japan was supplying 'cartel-breaking' edisonian bulbs, to the great annoyance of cartel, in the '30s iirc
22:26 asciilifeform made largely by hand, in ragtag workshops
22:27 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2015#1205196 << eh bs.
22:27 assbot Logged on 18-07-2015 01:43:53; ben_vulpes: <BingoBoingo> <mircea_popescu> in retrospect, his going to war with the dealers sunk his car business. << Beware the trade guilds << prole ownership of cars is going away. period.
22:27 mircea_popescu usians are going away. not to be confused with actual trends for actual people.
22:28 mats http://sphincs.cr.yp.to/index.html
22:28 assbot SPHINCS:Introduction ... ( http://bit.ly/1GrMjvk )
22:28 trinque "Special note to law-enforcement agents" << sad that they felt this needed to be said
22:28 mats >Special note to law-enforcement agents: ... We are not talking about eliminating other types of states. We love most states, especially yours! Also, "hash" is another technical term and has nothing to do with cannabis.
22:29 trinque heh yeah
22:29 decimation "Signatures are 41 KB"!!
22:29 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: proles are people nao?
22:29 mircea_popescu "including bigger batteries and a quicker acceleration mode, called "Ludicrous." That option will take the car from zero to 60 miles per hour in 2.8 seconds. During the hold music for the online press conference, the automaker played some of Ludacris' music"
22:30 decimation mircea_popescu: what else you expect, selling baubles to idiots?
22:30 mircea_popescu bunch of retarded fucking monkeys. http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/v/19733f9b5da9864601475a8ba7c48a8d3e902be4/img/editors/sebastian-blanco.jpg << this inept fuckwit really thought THAT is what needs to be reported.
22:30 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1GrMqqG )
22:30 mircea_popescu do they even have schools in usia anymore ?
22:30 decimation it's the human angle, see
22:31 mircea_popescu mats could have been lol but it lost me at "post-quantum"
22:31 mircea_popescu i see the monkey angle there, is the thing ;/
22:31 mats but, djb
22:32 mircea_popescu ;;ud djb
22:32 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=djb | Not Djb or DJB but sometimes d~J~b. Looks better in dresses than I do. ._.
22:32 decimation lol
22:32 mats Daniel J Bernstein
22:32 mircea_popescu o that guy. mkay.
22:33 ben_vulpes i wonder how pete woulda treated the tesla
22:34 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2015#1205248 << been pointed out to death, this, but somehow the 75k fucktards who bought it just glaze over and it flies past them and everyone else knew already so doesn't care.
22:34 assbot Logged on 18-07-2015 02:02:37; asciilifeform: and that's all you get in this mega-car ?!
22:34 mircea_popescu anyway. yes, electric car is a piece of shit submarine-airplane joint nonsense, specifically because there is no battery equivalent of fuel.
22:35 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2015#1205252 << if ~ terrorists would also use batteries instead of bombs.
22:35 assbot Logged on 18-07-2015 02:03:20; decimation: if batteries were about 10x more energy density they would be the no-brainer solution
22:35 decimation good point
22:36 decimation or they would just laser-cut their way through 'strong points'
22:36 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2015#1205281 << i'm cheering for that anon schmuck working on a perpetuum mobile to succeed too.
22:36 assbot Logged on 18-07-2015 02:07:12; mats: i'm cheering for tesla to somehow succeed, if musk improves batt tech thats a net win for mankind
22:36 mircea_popescu the problem is, idiots working on wrong problems are not a net win for humanity.
22:36 decimation yeah is there any evidence he has improved batteries or is even working on it?
22:36 mircea_popescu which incidentally, since you don't ask, is exactly how love and hate works in this channel.
22:36 mircea_popescu the more resources one throws at a wrong problem, the more thoroughly reviled.
22:37 mircea_popescu the converse also holds.
22:37 gernika Incidentally, I had the completely opposite impression that Tesla was catching on - having recently seen Tesla recharging stations at a Holiday Inn in Winnemucca. Seems I should have weighted more heavily the fact that -- no one was using them.
22:38 mircea_popescu decimation well, hes improved the mass production part.
22:38 mircea_popescu you can now get a 70kwh battery for cheaper than in 1995.
22:39 decimation yeah I linked a teardown awhile ago - http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-09-2014#837328
22:39 assbot Logged on 20-09-2014 17:12:50; decimation: asciilifeform: some guy bought a 'salvaged Tesla' and did a teardown of the battery pack: http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/34934-Pics-Info-Inside-the-battery-pack
22:39 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2015#1205312 << no. the main advantage is the screwdriver.
22:39 assbot Logged on 18-07-2015 02:10:35; decimation: the main advantage to workstations: ecc and raid
22:39 mircea_popescu decimation yeah. and the impression i got, from there an' everywhyere lese, is exactlly this : neat execution, uninnovative.
22:39 mircea_popescu there's nothing new there but they made it cleanly.
22:39 decimation yeah, just a big package of standard lithium batteries
22:40 mircea_popescu now if the us could just get over itself collectively and reach the humility of chinese peasants cca 1970, the us would be all ready to be china thirty years ago.
22:40 mircea_popescu people like that black dude in wc metro are actually helping.
22:41 decimation the liberal elite are trying the hardest to avert their eyes from him
22:41 mircea_popescu this "liberal elite" thing...
22:42 mircea_popescu i dunno that the us has an elite. merely a perception of such a thing does not cosntitute one.
22:42 mircea_popescu who exactly, outside of that idiot mit kid, actually says "we are the elite and move out of our way" ?
22:42 decimation somebody fills the plum book, decides what the ny times prints, prints usd, etc
22:42 mircea_popescu if i go up to obama and take a leak on his shoes he's going to say "that's inappropriate" isn't he.
22:43 mircea_popescu or "that wasn't necessary" or some bs.
22:43 mircea_popescu what elite ?
22:43 mats http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20120041623
22:43 assbot Charge Rate Modulation of Metal-Air Cells as a Function of Ambient Oxygen Concentration - Patent application ... ( http://bit.ly/1GrNhHP )
22:43 decimation you would be tackled and arrested (by 'his' people)
22:43 mircea_popescu and charged with anything but "failing to respect the elite"
22:43 mircea_popescu which is the tell tale sign of the absence of such an elite.
22:44 mircea_popescu im all for prosecuting them AS IF THEY WERE, it's right and proper.
22:44 mircea_popescu but that aside : they aren't.
22:44 mats am not an expert by any means but this air-metal stuff looks 'next gen'
22:44 decimation they certainly pretend to it
22:44 mircea_popescu not in so many words.
22:45 mircea_popescu unaware, unready, unprepared and undesirious.
22:45 mircea_popescu an elite in all senses of the term that are negative.
22:45 mats http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20120041625
22:45 assbot Efficient Dual Source Battery Pack System for an Electric Vehicle - Patent application ... ( http://bit.ly/1GrNv1I )
22:45 gernika Who was the last known elite person in usia? Someone in the Sicilian mafia? (serious)
22:46 decimation mats: people have been coming up with battery tech for ages, with incremental improvement. I hope they can actually produce it
22:46 mats I tend to think of the Kochs when 'elite' comes to mind
22:46 mircea_popescu gernika possibly the psoriasis banker guy
22:47 decimation mats: the Kochs are universally reviled by the east coast set
22:47 mircea_popescu i imagine the sentiment is mutual.
22:48 TomServo h
22:48 mats how about the Kennedys, then
22:49 mircea_popescu https://bitbet.us/bet/1166/netflix-inc-will-trade-at-least-790-usd/ wut a bet.
22:49 assbot BitBet - Netflix Inc will trade at least 790 USD per share before July 24th :: 1.26 B (21%) on Yes, 4.64 B (79%) on No | closed 23 hours 38 minutes ago ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mbt0xs )
22:49 mircea_popescu mats the kennedys never went out with a "we're better than you, so do it this way"
22:49 mircea_popescu i suppose you can count the moon thing, if you wish.
22:49 gernika !s psoriasis
22:49 assbot 3 results for 'psoriasis' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=psoriasis
22:49 mircea_popescu gernika jpmorgan.
22:49 mircea_popescu how goes TomServo
22:50 gernika ah so it's been over 100 years.
22:50 williamdunne What on earth made them think that they would go that high
22:50 mats yeah wtf is this bet? NFLX is at 114
22:51 hanbot mats mind the 7/1 split
22:51 mircea_popescu look who's not following teh market >D
22:52 mats o, what's the ticker for the other
22:52 phf i thought in u.s. liberal elite is a keyboard for professorial types with feminist wives, who go to opera and listen to npr
22:52 williamdunne that makes sense
22:52 phf *keyword
22:53 mats nvm
22:53 decimation phf: yes, the same ones who staff usg bureaucracies and corporations
22:54 phf decimation: "we like to listen to tchaikovsky. incidently alexander berzshinkiy is playing our favorite tchaikovsky works at kennedy center next month."
22:55 hanbot the same ones who'd buy a keyboard cause it's called 'elite'
22:56 mircea_popescu phf yeah, middle aged men looking about as sad as the nayor of mew york.
22:56 mircea_popescu such an iconic image, that.
22:57 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/the-elephant-in-the-room/#selection-51.1-51.8 << there. that's your "liberal elite"
22:57 assbot The elephant in the room on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1GrOqz9 )
22:57 mircea_popescu in a shitty 70s suit, looking like they won the zoo lottery and it's more monkeys.
22:57 decimation what do you expect? being carried in the streets in a litter?
22:58 mircea_popescu if that's what elite is...
22:59 mircea_popescu if anyone wonders what "lich" in that pic is, http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/albany/2015/06/8570923/lich-act-passes-assembly
22:59 assbot LICH Act passes Assembly | Capital New York ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mbtsf3 )
22:59 mircea_popescu apparently NEEDS MATTER!111
23:00 decimation it's more complicated than you might think. in many us states it is against the law to build a hospital unless you 'prove' that there's a 'need' for one
23:01 decimation http://www.ncsl.org/research/health/con-certificate-of-need-state-laws.aspx "In 1964, New York became the first state to enact a statute granting the state government power to determine whether there was a need for any new hospital or nursing home before it was approved for construction."
23:01 mircea_popescu the notion of "approved" for construction is foreign to my mental universe.
23:02 mircea_popescu ima build a fucking wizard tower on my own land if i feel so inclined, and if anyone doesn't like it ima add cannons to it.
23:02 decimation ^ that's highly illegal in nearly all locales in the us
23:02 decimation especially if the plans are unapproved
23:03 mircea_popescu i guess neartly all locales in the us are fortunate i don't give a shiot about building anything there.
23:03 decimation some places in rural bumfuck you can do it though: http://www.sangres.com/colorado/national-forests/sanisabel/bishopcastle.htm
23:03 assbot Bishops Castle ... ( http://bit.ly/1GrOQFL )
23:05 TheNewDeal mp, I've got a talented phocomelus that can man your wizard tower. 5 star techie
23:06 decimation " If you do stop and talk to Jim, you'll discover that the hardest work in the whole project was fending off all kinds of attacks on him and his work coming from the federal government and the National Forest Service: he's on private property but he's surrounded by National Forest and the feds want complete control of everything. In Jim's words: the only thing they haven't done is they haven't shot him, yet."
23:06 mircea_popescu TheNewDeal cool!
23:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00054358 = 9.7301 BTC [-]
23:07 mircea_popescu decimation adding that nonsense to the porcfest nonsense (or was it burning man ?) i'll lol once every house in the us has to have a special bathroom for any visiting cops
23:07 mircea_popescu that the residents may not use
23:09 TheNewDeal that was required by 3rd amendment v2.0
23:09 TheNewDeal must haz cops
23:09 decimation yeah it was burning man when usg agent demanded royal tent serviced by servants
23:10 decimation the powerpoint even demanded that the thing be called 'blue pit'
23:10 mircea_popescu and to think 99% odds are all these shenanigans is because the sexually deprived twerp was trying to get laid with some marginally fuckable middle aged woman.
23:12 decimation he kinda implied he was better than 'little people', does that make him elite?
23:15 mircea_popescu did he say it ?
23:16 mircea_popescu you gotta ask the girl out to be a man. that's the bar. you don't ask, you're not a man. you hint at her you might like to, you're a lesbian trapped in a transsexual's body, not a man.
23:16 mircea_popescu elite works the same way.
23:17 decimation I doubt there was a blank on the permit form that allowed one to declare one's superiority
23:17 mircea_popescu which is why form pushers can never be elite.
23:17 mircea_popescu clerks are clerks.
23:17 mircea_popescu they can hang as elite, sure. a hare can hang as a fox.
23:18 mircea_popescu but it can never BE a fox, while living. nor can these pencilnecks be elite.
23:21 decimation in this sense, the us is like a jealous mob - always keeping one eye out for the unforgivable crime of trying to clamour above the others
23:21 mircea_popescu well, democracy.
23:21 mircea_popescu ;;seen xemist
23:21 gribble I have not seen xemist.
23:22 TheNewDeal an envious lot, I think jealousy goes to far... implies too much work
23:22 TheNewDeal methinks*
23:24 mircea_popescu what's your definition of jealousy ?
23:25 TheNewDeal you know. Seeing pencilneck prick drive a jaguar down the road. Slober at him, then go home and watch tv to forget
23:25 mircea_popescu and envy ?
23:25 TheNewDeal ah shite
23:25 mircea_popescu lol yw.
23:25 decimation ;;dict envy
23:25 gribble wn: envy n 1: a feeling of grudging admiration and desire to have something that is possessed by another [syn: {envy}, {enviousness}] 2: spite and resentment at seeing the success of another (personified as one of the deadly sins) [syn: {envy}, {invidia}] v 1: feel envious towards; admire enviously 2: be envious of; set one's heart on [syn: {envy}, {begrudge}]
23:25 TheNewDeal that was my envious example
23:25 decimation ;;dict jealousy
23:25 gribble wn: jealousy n 1: a feeling of jealous envy (especially of a rival) [syn: {jealousy}, {green-eyed monster}] 2: zealous vigilance; "cherish their official political freedom with fierce jealousy"-Paul Blanshard
23:26 TheNewDeal I was thinking jealous should be the superlative
23:26 mircea_popescu i ask because this is a fine example of english being a pigdin, where dictionaries don't define and nothing means anything specific
23:26 TheNewDeal ;;ud jealous
23:26 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jealous | For instance, envious/jealous behavior such as a friend has a nice new car and instead of being truly happy for them you badmouth them or the car or make up ...
23:26 mircea_popescu in sane languaged jealousy is sexual and envy material
23:26 mircea_popescu but apparently that's not widely known in english.
23:27 danielpbarron i thought it was that you're jealous of your own things and envious of other people's things
23:27 TheNewDeal whats that one commandment about neighbor's wives?
23:27 mircea_popescu "make sure they're always pregnant" ?
23:27 decimation ;;dict covet
23:27 gribble wn: covet v 1: wish, long, or crave for (something, especially the property of another person); "She covets her sister's house"
23:27 TheNewDeal covet
23:27 phf covet
23:27 TheNewDeal that's the ticket
23:27 phf ha
23:28 mircea_popescu may be a false friend, it comes from a time when wives were just another kind of chattel.
23:28 TheNewDeal a person's wife is obviously their property. This material vs sexual is getting to intermingled
23:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89350 @ 0.00054796 = 48.9602 BTC [+] {5}
23:28 mircea_popescu don't covet another man's fleet of ships, gaggle of cunts or flock of deer.
23:28 mircea_popescu this obviousness doth not follow.
23:29 TheNewDeal have you published an actual 10 commandments yet? We need a v1.0
23:29 mircea_popescu i don't believe in the prescriptive approach.
23:29 TheNewDeal not some fairytale nonsense
23:30 TheNewDeal It can be something cheesy along the lines of the native american 10 commandments http://www.nativevillage.org/Inspiration-/ten_native_american_commandments.htm
23:30 assbot The Ten Native American Commandments ... ( http://bit.ly/1J6jLhh )
23:30 mircea_popescu da fuck is this respect
23:30 TheNewDeal like in da Ali G sense
23:31 mircea_popescu http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2014/04/29/the-ten-commandments-of-liberalism-n1830696
23:31 assbot The Ten Commandments Of Liberalism - John Hawkins - Page 1 ... ( http://bit.ly/1J6jKdc )
23:31 mircea_popescu http://www.getfrank.co.nz/editorial/features/the-10-commandments-for-drinking-like-a-man
23:31 assbot The 10 Commandments For Drinking Like a Man ... ( http://bit.ly/1J6jQ4i )
23:31 mircea_popescu check it out - everything on the internet is a list now.
23:31 TheNewDeal truly
23:31 mircea_popescu pretty sad indictment of the intellectual capacity of the people behind it.
23:32 TheNewDeal usians crave buzzfeed and chive, nothing more, nothing less
23:32 mircea_popescu even english lit professors a few decades ago would have laughed this pedestrian bullshit out of class.
23:32 decimation http://spinroot.com/p10/
23:32 assbot The Power of Ten -- Rules for Writing Safety Critical Code ... ( http://bit.ly/1GrQQh7 )
23:32 mircea_popescu "oh, you have no clue about composition so take refuge in the bullet point ? go back to the hoe."
23:34 TheNewDeal 60 lines, what kind of piss-ass function is this? takes that many to clear the registers and program counter
23:34 TheNewDeal update the PC
23:36 punkman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X178JL8Gr2U
23:36 assbot The Notorious B.I.G (Ten Crack Commandments) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1GrRawh )
23:36 mircea_popescu " Snapping, clapping, yelling, whistling or just general rudeness to someone waiting on you are a sure sign to anyone in your company that if they spend enough time around you, you’ll eventually treat them with the same selfish nonchalance and disdain that you treat those who are paid to be nice to you."
23:36 mircea_popescu motherfucker.
23:36 mircea_popescu someone "paid to be nice^H^H^H^H be my servant who fucks up his DUTIES is going to be called to task. before a sound beating.
23:37 mircea_popescu and yes, anyone else contemplating the same position'd better get in their skulls that no, they don't get to fuck around on the job.
23:37 mircea_popescu here we sit discussing "elites" in a space that doesn't even know how to keep the servants in line
23:37 mircea_popescu or more importantly, that there IS such a thing as servants, and such a thing as a line for them to keep to.
23:37 mircea_popescu what fucking elite. start by keeping a household.
23:37 mircea_popescu elite comes a century thereafter.
23:38 decimation levelers gotta level
23:38 TheNewDeal it's a land of servants, and the alleged elites are house-negros
23:38 mircea_popescu anyways. off to look for slithy toves.
23:38 mircea_popescu the life i lead...
23:38 punkman do they still make english butlers?
23:39 ag3nt_zer0 well I just spent a few hours following that eulora mac guide and last 2 steps yielded this: Install1 /usr/local/eulora/lib/libxdelta3-0.0.a ...failed updating 4 target(s)... ...skipped 8 target(s)... ...updated 15 target(s)... xxxx-Mac-mini:eulora MacMini$ ./euclient -bash: ./euclient: cannot execute binary file
23:39 ag3nt_zer0 so think I am done as I don't know what the hell I am doing
23:40 decimation early yarvin had a point about this: "You are a Catholic. Your parents were Catholics. You were educated by Catholics. You are governed by Catholics. All your friends are Catholics. All the books you've ever read were written by Catholics.
23:40 TheNewDeal just pay someone here to do it
23:40 decimation "How do you convince this guy or gal that the answer to all the world's problems is not "more Catholicism"? How do you say, um, dude, this Trinity thing - the virgin birth - transsubstantiation... ya know...
23:41 TheNewDeal who's those yarvin character?
23:42 TheNewDeal and for the record punkman, the 10 crack commandments shouldn't be grouped with the liberal buzzfeed nonsense, because that's legitmate knowledge passed down by a semi-respectable ruffian
23:43 ben_vulpes more like a jester, retelling stories he heard knights bandying about
23:43 * ben_vulpes to numb the family-in-law with more booze
23:44 decimation TheNewDeal: it's mencius moldbug: http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2007/04/case-against-democracy-ten-red-pills.html
23:44 assbot Unqualified Reservations: The case against democracy: ten red pills ... ( http://bit.ly/1J6kkrh )
23:44 punkman TheNewDeal: yeah those 10 are not so bad
23:44 TheNewDeal never heard him referred to as yarvin
23:45 decimation it's his real name, curtis yarvin
23:45 TheNewDeal doxxed!
23:45 TheNewDeal I jest
23:51 TheNewDeal decimation I had a friend convice me quite shortly after being confirmed as a Catholic. Just need to be open-minded. Tough for a large majority of sheeple
23:51 williamdunne mircea_popescu: In Romanian is new and first the same word?
23:51 williamdunne ignore me
23:51 williamdunne Trying to work out why a translation is so poor
23:52 decimation TheNewDeal: I have no problem with catholics, but what's not obvious from what I pasted is that moldbug is making a point about being submerged in a particular point of view from birth
23:52 decimation usians know nothing other than rabid egalitarianism
23:52 * danielpbarron has a problem with catholics
23:53 decimation heh yeah I'm not a fan of the pope and the authority of the church over scripture
23:54 TheNewDeal egalitarianism is the biggest epic fail of usian existence
23:55 TheNewDeal but hey, write it on a few pieces of parchment, print it on the money, and it must be true
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