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00:21 mats mats is like the oracle on the topic now! << not sure if you're criticizing what i said there
00:22 mats perhaps. do you see meaningful expansions ? << how about the production of communications to include voice, where there is a written record of it? e.g. transcript of wiretap log
00:22 mats i was hoping you'd have a better idea tbh.
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00:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4257 @ 0.00050758 = 2.1608 BTC [+]
01:02 asciilifeform !up Alina-malina
01:13 diametric http://vimeo.com/74025061?1
01:13 assbot Oculus Rift TV SPOT on Vimeo ... ( http://bit.ly/1uKvmxn )
01:14 diametric Somehow I've never seen this before.
01:17 mircea_popescu mats was not criticizing, was approving.
01:18 mircea_popescu how about the production of communications to include voice << im not sure right off what that'd do.
01:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7268 @ 0.00050758 = 3.6891 BTC [+]
01:25 asciilifeform all you can verify, both the most and the least you can verify, are BLOCKS. << yes.
01:25 asciilifeform now is the time for folks who have not actually bothered to read the fscking source, to confess.
01:26 asciilifeform srsly it's finitely long. just do it.
01:27 asciilifeform you might need a decade to find all the weird, quasi-exploitable hair, but to get a basic understanding of how the thing works - is another matter. very doable.
01:27 asciilifeform exhortation, from now on, abbreviated for convenience, 'RTFT' (read the fucking turd.)
01:28 mircea_popescu http://www.dogeillionaires.com << who did this one ?!
01:28 assbot Why Dogecoin is a scam, why the people pushing it are assholes, why Business Insider is a contemptible piece of shit, why anyone who ever worked for it will be dancing in the street for nickels and why Kevin Rose is a fuckwit. Plus other considerations. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1uKxtRQ )
01:29 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i didn't actually.
01:29 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/#comment-111701 << 'confirmed' << i ponied up on 12/31, where's the 'confirmed'
01:29 assbot The conference, third edition pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1uKxzJ3 )
01:29 mircea_popescu i suppose it is a testament to my scholarship that i can actually get away with outsourcing the actual readsing ?
01:29 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you're in teh list arentcha ? he asked me specifically to confirm. you're also confirmed!
01:30 asciilifeform aha, did not check
01:30 * asciilifeform lazy
01:30 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i sorta assumed that you either read it, or had it read to you, or wrote compatible gadget
01:30 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: because you showed symptoms of understanding correctly how it works
01:30 mircea_popescu nah, just, i know what qs to ask of people. "go read it and i'll ask you things"
01:31 ben_vulpes amusingly, i was confirmed without paying.
01:31 mircea_popescu i was also lazy.
01:31 asciilifeform ben_vulpes guest speaker ?
01:31 asciilifeform lol
01:31 ben_vulpes almos
01:31 ben_vulpes almost*
01:32 mircea_popescu nah, ben_vulpes only scammed participant. neglected to send 2.x ended up sending 8.x
01:32 ben_vulpes too bad i'm too bad of a scammer to pull it off
01:32 mircea_popescu tru story.
01:32 ben_vulpes worst story.
01:32 ben_vulpes hatchu.
01:32 ben_vulpes for the record, attendance declarations are only binding on those who wish to attend, not his unimpeachable lordship mircea_popescu
01:33 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: lol i sorta assume he'll be there.
01:33 mircea_popescu wouldn't that be the pirate of all time
01:33 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: i refer of course to the quoted price of attendance.
01:34 ben_vulpes re dogillionaires, that was fluffypony
01:34 ben_vulpes !s bitcoinate
01:34 assbot 23445 results for 'bitcoinate' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=bitcoinate
01:34 ben_vulpes mthreat this is almost worse than useless
01:35 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: i have been repeating, like mantra, 'stemming search must die'
01:35 asciilifeform because it must.
01:35 asciilifeform it simply needs to get off the planet. it is an instrument of muppetry, plain and simple.
01:36 ben_vulpes on a previous topic, eg bitcoinating
01:36 asciilifeform does 'grep' include stemming? nein.
01:36 ben_vulpes here's a proposed list
01:36 mircea_popescu a kk
01:36 ben_vulpes - download and validate blocks
01:36 ben_vulpes translate block height to block hash
01:36 ben_vulpes - translate block height to block hash
01:36 ben_vulpes - return the height of the current best-known chain
01:36 ben_vulpes - return a block corresponding to a given hash
01:37 ben_vulpes - relay transactions to the network
01:37 ben_vulpes (fin)
01:37 asciilifeform seems like it all sits inside 'validate blocks', no ?
01:37 asciilifeform so the postulates aren't orthogonal.
01:38 ben_vulpes true enough
01:38 ben_vulpes but there are subspaces, if you'll allow the floppiness of wording.
01:38 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the reason, incidentally, i didn';t read it myself is i dun trust my rudimentary c understanding.
01:38 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: this is just the kind of manual which ought to live in a 'lions book' commentary on source.
01:38 mircea_popescu best have ppl that spoeak the language tlel you what the paper says.
01:38 ben_vulpes f'r instance, the thing should cough up on the command line, a block if given a hash
01:40 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: it's actually heavily idiomatic cpp. with extensive use of 'high level construct' libs like 'boost' ('iterate', various data structure diddles, etc.)
01:40 mircea_popescu aham
01:40 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: rather painful to read for anyone who is not in a daily habit of birthing similarly flavoured monstrosities
01:40 * asciilifeform had to open a book
01:42 mircea_popescu "let' smake c more like java on wheels"
01:42 ben_vulpes idiomatic cpp aside, thoughts on the list?
01:42 fluffypony mircea_popescu: how can you forget my dogeillionaires redirect!
01:42 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes 2nd step, what's it mean ?
01:43 mircea_popescu fluffypony ;/ so many lulz, so little head
01:44 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: if i know that the most recent block was of height N, I can ask bitcoind-node for the hash of the block at height N
01:44 ben_vulpes (or N-1, or N-M)
01:44 mircea_popescu this is an ambigous request.
01:44 ben_vulpes because of multiple chains?
01:44 mircea_popescu "on whjich chain"
01:44 mircea_popescu yes
01:44 ben_vulpes hm.
01:44 ben_vulpes ofc. central concern, this.
01:44 mircea_popescu the notion of N must be subordinate ot the blocks only identifier, its hash
01:45 mircea_popescu (another bit of braindamage th epower rangers forced upon the world, other than "historical transaction validity" as a thing, is "block as aheight"
01:45 ben_vulpes i see it.
01:45 ben_vulpes "there is only one chain" as well.
01:45 mircea_popescu this is nonsense of the first order, an utter antipattern, and iof they weren't stupid as frogs i'd suspect its deliberate
01:45 ben_vulpes "antipattern" << lol
01:45 mircea_popescu like sending you to hunt for snipes so yo ucan't be a huner)
01:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00051016 = 6.53 BTC [+] {2}
01:47 mircea_popescu think of it as "chain of pointers" and now tell me who the fuck doesn't flunk the idiot that actually keeps an enumeration array for the chain
01:47 mircea_popescu best way to crash undebuggably ever.
01:48 ben_vulpes then this implies a requirement that a bitcoind-node know about and be able to return data about the various chains of which it knows.
01:49 mircea_popescu depends what are you trying to do /
01:50 ben_vulpes spec a node, i guess.
01:50 mircea_popescu with the list i mean.
01:52 asciilifeform chain of pointers << tree.
01:52 mircea_popescu asciilifeform right.
01:53 ben_vulpes if you'll forgive the glib response, figure out what can be riven from the satoshi codebase
01:53 asciilifeform (satoshi did not go in for book-learning, it seems, esp. re: data structures, but that doesn't mean that we have to forget school)
01:53 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes no asciilifeform put it in proper terms. it's a tree.
01:53 mircea_popescu you can, if you wish, implement a function that returns "equibranches" on a tree.
01:53 mircea_popescu but this is a secondary consideration.
01:55 ben_vulpes secondary to?
01:55 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it does, unfortunately, mean that they who did forget / never had what to forget can pass for "geniuses"
01:56 mircea_popescu but it is what it is.
01:56 asciilifeform wai wat
01:56 asciilifeform the pleasures of reinvention ?
01:57 mircea_popescu asciilifeform no, just the power ranger lot. they'd have (i optimistically assume) been excluded / self out-selected if the satoshi actually understood programming.
01:57 * ben_vulpes is but a humble student of the trade
01:57 mircea_popescu a codebase that's written by a monkey is more liable to attact "do-ocracy" monkeys than one written by a sane person.
01:58 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: hard to say. dead rat and dead lion get eaten by crows just the same
01:58 mircea_popescu also true. i guess it may drop here.
01:58 asciilifeform or...
01:58 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes secondary to whatever it is you're doing.
01:58 asciilifeform i can picture a surface so mirror-smooth that barnacles cannot stick.
01:58 asciilifeform but not often have seen this in life.
01:58 mircea_popescu asciilifeform emacs, right ? :D
01:59 asciilifeform obligatory: https://gist.github.com/pete/665971
01:59 assbot Various implementations of the 'cat' command, for comparison. ... ( http://bit.ly/1C02pQ8 )
01:59 mircea_popescu http://41.media.tumblr.com/ea602c535d351e849b76fe966a013294/tumblr_nbhlmf6IBJ1sb822ho1_500.jpg pic related.
01:59 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1C02qUc )
02:00 mircea_popescu 782 22684 gnu-cat.c o.O
02:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11350 @ 0.00051484 = 5.8434 BTC [+]
02:02 mircea_popescu anyway, so gnu's written in php. what's new.
02:04 mircea_popescu static char line_buf[LINE_COUNTER_BUF_LEN] = { ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', '0', '\t', '\0' };
02:04 mircea_popescu ok i've seen enough
02:04 mircea_popescu unless the number of lines is larger than 999999. */
02:04 ben_vulpes my eyes :(
02:05 * asciilifeform linked this for a reason.
02:05 * mircea_popescu is brb, making 999999 line files.
02:05 nubbins` https://i.imgur.com/FYSrEMp.jpg
02:05 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1C03zuW )
02:05 nubbins` found it
02:06 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: go straight for MAXINT.
02:06 mircea_popescu nubbins` i can tell by some of the pixels.
02:06 mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/884ac86273060b7f8a5acbd3df900483/tumblr_nh3ii8btd11sb822ho1_500.jpg <<< HANDCARVED
02:07 nubbins` heh
02:08 ben_vulpes i discovered recently that "baby" carrots aren't so much "lathed" as they are knocked around in a conical abrasive vessel
02:08 ben_vulpes thestringpuller: you flappin
02:10 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/#comment-111706 << ne1 know this guy ?
02:10 assbot The conference, third edition pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1C04wU3 )
02:12 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: http://www.saucal.com/
02:12 assbot Web Design, Development and Inbound Marketing in Calgary | Saucal ... ( http://bit.ly/1C04Phv )
02:12 mircea_popescu ok... ?
02:12 * ben_vulpes shrugs
02:13 ben_vulpes 'tis all i got
02:13 ben_vulpes perhaps a lonely registered participant?
02:13 nubbins` http://hyperfool.com/ufcknubbins.mp4
02:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00051512 = 4.7649 BTC [+] {2}
02:16 mircea_popescu so what's going to be your next victim, nubbins` ?
02:18 nubbins` a bowl of cereal
02:18 fluffypony lol
02:18 mod6 maybe it's this guy: http://www.wired.com/2013/10/robocoin_here/
02:18 assbot World's First Bitcoin ATM Arrives at Coffee Shop, Goes Live Tomorrow | WIRED ... ( http://bit.ly/1C05G1Y )
02:19 mod6 oh nm.
02:19 mircea_popescu the fucking headlines these people are doing
02:20 fluffypony Nubbins`: you should launch FNC, FuckNubbinsCoin
02:20 mircea_popescu winchel would chisel them into little egg supports.
02:20 fluffypony You already have a logo
02:20 mod6 well then theres this: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/mitchelldemeter
02:20 assbot Mitchell Demeter | LinkedIn ... ( http://bit.ly/1C05Xls )
02:20 nubbins` fluffypony i lel'd heartily at the video
02:20 mircea_popescu yeah nubbins` print it on a square piece of cloth
02:20 mircea_popescu "artisan"
02:20 nubbins` big reveal at the start: lasered art in wood
02:20 mod6 Cointrader exchange, etc? *shrug*
02:20 nubbins` then he fucks with it with his dremel w/ the sandpaper attachment (??)
02:21 nubbins` sprays water on it at one point
02:21 ben_vulpes https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchellcallahan << mod6 i found this one
02:21 assbot Mitchell Callahan | LinkedIn ... ( http://bit.ly/1C068Nx )
02:21 nubbins` y'know, like you do with wood
02:21 fluffypony Only watermelon ivory
02:22 ben_vulpes ah, he's a Joseph David stoolie
02:22 ben_vulpes how was the strip club, hanbot?
02:22 mircea_popescu joseph david ?!
02:22 ben_vulpes David Joseph?
02:22 ben_vulpes CaVirtEx
02:22 ben_vulpes the one who did a runner with a Havelock "raise"
02:22 ben_vulpes heh. "one".
02:23 mircea_popescu lol
02:23 mircea_popescu wait. wasn't that kumala that did the vtx thing ?
02:24 ben_vulpes oh is there a CaVirtEx and VirtEx?
02:24 mircea_popescu yes.
02:24 ben_vulpes nm
02:25 ben_vulpes ah it's the whole gang
02:25 mod6 ben_vulpes: oh my bad. my eyes are bleary.
02:25 ben_vulpes mod6: my contacts are gumming up too :)
02:26 mircea_popescu CAVirtex, Canada’s largest and oldest Bitcoin online exchange, is facing a potential class action lawsuit to the tune of $884,880 CAD. The alleged losses were incurred by the lawsuit-bringers after the company offered 10% of its shares for sale on the cryptocurrency-based asset exchange, Havelock Investments then stopped listing the stock by the end of 2013.
02:26 mircea_popescu apparently it is... both
02:26 mircea_popescu o.o
02:27 ben_vulpes wait, cavirtex is virtex?
02:27 ben_vulpes was i right for once?
02:27 ben_vulpes lol will wonders never cease
02:27 pete_dushenski pretty sure ya
02:27 mircea_popescu no. they're different, however,
02:27 mircea_popescu they both scammed.
02:27 pete_dushenski lol oh
02:27 fluffypony Different scams
02:27 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: i've met mitch callahan a couple times irl
02:27 mircea_popescu these guys "delisted" at a 25% buyback that they didn't really honor
02:28 fluffypony Also not to be confused with Virturex
02:28 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/print-page-cryptostocks-vircurex-vcx-going-public.htm << i was thinking of vircurex tho
02:28 assbot Print Page - [CRYPTOSTOCKS] Vircurex [VCX] - Going public ... ( http://bit.ly/1C07kR7 )
02:28 mircea_popescu fluffypony right
02:29 mircea_popescu what do we do once they simply start repeating names ?
02:29 pete_dushenski 2.0!
02:29 ben_vulpes can we stop caring about scams yet?
02:29 mircea_popescu BFL the "Exchange" , pirate the asic manufacturer, woodcutter the ponzi scheme...
02:29 pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: almost
02:29 ben_vulpes srsly, woodchopper?
02:29 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes only if you're willing to cut noobs entirely loose
02:30 ben_vulpes they're already cut loose. can't get into b-a
02:30 ben_vulpes no crusading valkyrie
02:30 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: anything in particular you'd like to know about your interested participant for the conference?
02:30 mircea_popescu i thought nubbins was contemplating a genderbendin' surgical intervention.
02:31 ben_vulpes only counts if it comes with wings
02:31 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski nothing in particular, just the general.
02:31 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes and a spear.
02:31 ben_vulpes i thought he was going under the knife to get rid of the spear
02:31 ben_vulpes "dick surgery"?
02:31 nubbins` heh
02:31 mircea_popescu oh
02:31 fluffypony https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=934713.0
02:32 assbot Step by step. How To Scam People With New Ann. Coin ?? ... ( http://bit.ly/1C07OXo )
02:32 fluffypony Best thread
02:32 mircea_popescu i think he has been delaborately confusing us to gain time
02:32 mircea_popescu WHERES THE VIDEOS NUBBINZ
02:32 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: mitch runs a little coding shop, they do some web design as well
02:32 mircea_popescu you know him /
02:32 nubbins` he actually posted the video hey
02:32 pete_dushenski his shop did the new website for cavirtex
02:32 nubbins` http://hyperfool.com/ufcknubbins.mp4
02:32 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: a bit
02:32 nubbins` pretty rough watch
02:32 nubbins` i'd recommend someone else watch it and give you a summary
02:33 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: we've met twice, once for drinks, once for coffee
02:33 pete_dushenski he lives in calgary
02:33 ben_vulpes pete_dushenski: https://www.cavirtex.com/home << but but that's the old site!
02:33 assbot Canadian Virtual Exchange ... ( http://bit.ly/1C082On )
02:33 pete_dushenski actually he might've moved to toronto but no matter
02:33 ben_vulpes 100% canadian lol
02:33 ben_vulpes gets me every time
02:33 pete_dushenski he's a programmer
02:34 pete_dushenski i poked him to figure out pgp, he did
02:34 ben_vulpes oh god not programmers
02:34 pete_dushenski i don't think he's done his 6 months tho, not seriously
02:34 pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: new logo!
02:34 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes shut up and eat your cult programmeas.
02:34 ben_vulpes i ain't eating programmers
02:35 ben_vulpes no females in that set
02:35 mircea_popescu i ate a female programmers
02:35 ben_vulpes a plural of one?
02:35 mircea_popescu better than male. no hairs.
02:35 mircea_popescu not even on neck.
02:35 ben_vulpes just stay clear of her heirs
02:35 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: anyways, mitch sends me the off pgp-gram, and i recently sent him to the trilema jobs board
02:36 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes her heirettes might toss good salad ?
02:36 pete_dushenski then he said "oh, what about this conference?" and i told him to leave a comment if he was interested
02:36 pete_dushenski looks like he did
02:36 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski ah i c
02:36 ben_vulpes herr heiress!
02:36 ben_vulpes that's how the staff'll address my she-spawn
02:36 ben_vulpes aw i fucked the genders there didn't i
02:37 mircea_popescu hopefully just one.
02:37 ben_vulpes YOU KNOW IT
02:37 mircea_popescu it'd be heiress herrin
02:37 mircea_popescu maybe she could be called herring
02:37 mircea_popescu then it'd be heiress Herrin Herring
02:37 ben_vulpes i'm rarin to go harin' after herrin herring
02:38 ben_vulpes anyways, how does this work in practice: 2 mining pools release a block (B, C), building off the prev (A) - do miners arbitrarily choose which child block to continue building on?
02:39 mircea_popescu from the protocol pov, it's arbitrary.
02:39 ben_vulpes in practice though
02:39 ben_vulpes do ops frantically get on the horn to get their block into the long chain?
02:39 mircea_popescu in practice either whichever they hear first or whichever has better likely outcomes
02:39 mircea_popescu yup
02:39 mircea_popescu point in case, march fork.
02:40 hanbot <ben_vulpes> how was the strip club, hanbot? << no buttered strip clubs for me, thanks, i'm off to play the grand piano
02:40 ben_vulpes what actually happened there? i thought the forked chain was rejected?
02:40 ben_vulpes hanbot: *buttered* strip clubs?!
02:40 ben_vulpes what strange am i missing out on
02:41 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: come to think of it, mitch has been by assets before but under a pseudonym
02:41 pete_dushenski ;;seen menahem
02:41 gribble menahem was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 11 weeks, 3 days, 16 hours, 22 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <menahem> lemme verify my id again. brb, heading to an office space. gracias for the welcome.
02:41 ben_vulpes ;;later tell thestrin1puller ffs thestringpuller fix your bouncer
02:41 gribble The operation succeeded.
02:41 pete_dushenski ^kid's not a joo even
02:41 mircea_popescu " do ops frantically get on the horn to get their block into the long chain?" << through that process.
02:42 hanbot <mircea_popescu> then it'd be heiress Herrin Herring << who opens up an earing shop, obviously
02:42 ben_vulpes the fork-block didn't make it into the main chain, correct?
02:43 mircea_popescu you're talking of ambiguous things as if they were specified.
02:43 mircea_popescu "the winner of world war three was a good man, right ?
02:43 mircea_popescu "totally"
02:45 mircea_popescu hanbot hopefully she's earnin' with it.
02:48 ben_vulpes "main chain" << the ambiguous bit?
02:49 ben_vulpes <mircea_popescu> http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/10/25_notes-on-increasing-the-maximum-bitcoin-block-size-or-why-it-aint-happenin.html << hey ben_vulpes did gavin ever respond to that one ? << hey this one actually doesn't read too poorly a few months later
02:49 assbot Notes on Increasing the Maximum Bitcoin Block Size (or, "Why it ain't happenin'") ... ( http://bit.ly/1C0aT9M )
02:53 mircea_popescu yehn
02:53 mircea_popescu pity you're not an economist like oleg andreev
02:53 mircea_popescu or whatever other random css expert gavin found on fiverr.
02:54 ben_vulpes amusingly, oleg andreev abandoned the only decent gui client for 'git' on os x
02:54 ben_vulpes it's amusing to watch everyone manually patch the closed source turdball to cope with each successive os x upgrade
02:55 ben_vulpes in order to do what precisely with bitcoin?
02:55 ben_vulpes certainly not hang out with the asshats.
02:56 mircea_popescu man on stationary bike isn't catching any trains.
02:57 punkman http://hyperfool.com/ufcknubbins.mp4 < lol this guy, 1 hour to carve one huge N and he can't even do a straight line. just digging on the wood with all the wrong rotarytool bits.
02:57 mircea_popescu !up metsuno
02:58 pete_dushenski metsuno: get a cloak eh
02:58 mircea_popescu punkman he did it deliberately so it's artistic and unique
02:58 mircea_popescu doh
02:58 mircea_popescu there's a book "luxury rotary bits management" you should read.
02:58 pete_dushenski unless web access is immune from ddosbot, i dunno if it is
02:58 mircea_popescu i thought the ddos derp crapped out earlier.
02:59 mircea_popescu anyway, im off. take it easy ye buncha socialists.
02:59 ben_vulpes from hampshire?
02:59 ben_vulpes metsuno you're going to get expelled hanging out here
02:59 nubbins` hm
02:59 metsuno sorry
02:59 metsuno I'm shy
02:59 pete_dushenski laters mp
03:00 ben_vulpes pete_dushenski: how's the ride?
03:00 nubbins` punkman i'm not sure why nobody is mentioning that the design is already laser etched into the fuckin piece when the video starts
03:00 nubbins` then the guy just runs his dremel around the already-engraved letter
03:00 nubbins` like...
03:00 pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: parked for the weekend
03:00 nubbins` maybe the man is mentally ill
03:00 pete_dushenski it's unbelievably warm here
03:00 punkman nubbins, oh it looked like pencil, but then I wondered about the outer circles
03:00 pete_dushenski like +6C
03:01 ben_vulpes nubbins` this comes back to the trouble of identifying malice vs incompetence
03:01 nubbins` punkman fullscreen that shit
03:02 nubbins` the whole thing is actually etched before the camera is turned on
03:02 nubbins` i'm tempted to go get the design laser etched onto a piece myself
03:02 nubbins` and create my own video of me dremelling it
03:02 nubbins` but that would definitely qualify as "getting out of hand"
03:02 punkman you could do the same job with a dull spoon I think
03:03 ben_vulpes stahp
03:03 ben_vulpes plz
03:03 ben_vulpes plz no buly
03:11 ben_vulpes http://hyperfool.com/ufcknubbins.mp4 << ah shit 1 hour in loving the burns
03:11 nubbins` heh
03:12 nubbins` i'm all "why didn't he laser the entire background if he's gonna do this?"
03:13 nubbins` "o, wait, hand mumble mumble"
03:14 nubbins` did you get to the part where he sprays water on the wood?
03:14 ben_vulpes lol no.
03:14 nubbins` heh
03:14 nubbins` i guess it brings out the grain
03:14 nubbins` much more so than, say, oil
03:14 ben_vulpes i scrubbed to 1 hour in, saw the burns, bailed
03:14 nubbins` yeah heh
03:14 nubbins` the start was v suspenseful
03:14 ben_vulpes nubbins`: it actually shows the grain remarkably well, and nondestructively to boot
03:14 ben_vulpes !up cazalla
03:15 ben_vulpes dafuq's up with your keys, caz?
03:15 cazalla pete_dushenski, you driving around in john voight's car or wut?
03:15 ben_vulpes lol just here for the zingers
03:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00049708 = 3.3801 BTC [-]
03:15 pete_dushenski cazalla: john's ? mebbe. saddam's ? definitely.
03:15 punkman the end with the laser pointer and text that says "hey first piece I lazered"
03:16 pete_dushenski in fact, i've named my mercedes just that: "saddam"
03:17 punkman "Beyond that, this is the season when i import all my wood to get me through the next year. That means on average i have from 1 to 5 trucks showing up a week, 1 or 2 shipments coming through customs i need to keep on top of, and also a dozen employees to keep track of."
03:17 punkman trucks of wood!
03:17 nubbins` hm
03:17 ben_vulpes i...
03:17 ben_vulpes man
03:17 nubbins` i suspect smoothie from the forums is kinda stupid
03:17 cazalla pete_dushenski, everybody's talk at you but you can't hear a word they're saying.. just driving 'round in saddam's car
03:17 ben_vulpes you guys gotta stop bringing these scams around here
03:17 nubbins` actually, remove "suspect" and "kinda"
03:17 nubbins` and "i" or else it doesn't make sense
03:17 ben_vulpes hahaha
03:18 ben_vulpes just write the regex okay?
03:18 nubbins` ;;google regex.info
03:18 gribble Jeffrey Friedl's Web Sites: <http://regex.info/>; Jeffrey Friedl's Exif (Image Metadata) Viewer: <http://regex.info/exif.cgi>; Regular-Expressions.info - Regex Tutorial, Examples and ...: <http://www.regular-expressions.info/>
03:18 nubbins` ^ quicker than putting chrome into focus
03:18 nubbins` wait that's not right
03:18 nubbins` ;;google regular-expressions.info
03:18 gribble Regular-Expressions.info - Regex Tutorial, Examples and ...: <http://www.regular-expressions.info/>; Regular Expressions Reference - Regular-Expressions.info: <http://www.regular-expressions.info/reference.html>; Tutorial - Regular-Expressions.info: <http://www.regular-expressions.info/tutorial.html>
03:19 nubbins` there
03:19 ben_vulpes man i hate regexen
03:19 nubbins` yeah
03:19 nubbins` powerful, but so is finally fitting a medicine ball in your asshole
03:19 * ben_vulpes blinks
03:19 nubbins` ...so i've heard
03:19 ben_vulpes how does that work
03:19 nubbins` generally only once.
03:19 ben_vulpes do you just sit down slowly?
03:20 ben_vulpes AlexWkz: your cloak is getting applied after you join channels
03:20 nubbins` once it's in, you sit down quite rapidly
03:20 punkman regexp ftw!
03:20 nubbins` AlexWkz try putting your nickserv password into your network settings
03:20 nubbins` or smth
03:20 ben_vulpes don't just stand there, man!
03:20 ben_vulpes do something!
03:21 ben_vulpes anything!
03:21 ben_vulpes it doesn't matter!
03:21 punkman !up AlexWkz
03:21 ben_vulpes oh yeah that
03:21 cazalla so is this 2gb wood carving tutorial worth the dl or does the thread provide enough lulz?
03:21 ben_vulpes nope not worth anything
03:27 punkman https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=919373.0
03:27 assbot Users of Bitcoin Core on Linux must not upgrade to the latest version of OpenSSL ... ( http://bit.ly/1JorZiI )
03:28 punkman "In some conceivable but unlikely scenarios, you might see incoming transactions as having 6+ confirmations when the transactions are actually invalid"
03:29 punkman ah two weeks old, pardon me
03:33 nubbins` cazalla no
03:33 nubbins` really 2gb?
03:34 punkman http://pics2.brainparking.com/p442/9/y/8390396py9.jpg
03:34 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/18emFRB )
03:40 nubbins` ok
03:41 nubbins` bitspill wins
03:41 ben_vulpes sauce
03:41 nubbins` https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=935115.msg10252471#msg10252471
03:41 assbot Videos of WoodCollector Hand Carving: Care of MOB ... ( http://bit.ly/18enYjC )
03:41 nubbins` see quoted text for context
03:41 nubbins` "OK, so he didn't use a laser"
03:42 nubbins` like... dude, are you even having the same conversation as us?
03:42 nubbins` or just copying random words and pasting them into sentences
03:42 nubbins` i officially stop
03:42 ben_vulpes dag
03:42 ben_vulpes please
03:42 nubbins` you could piss in this man's face and tell him his lips are dry, he'd reach for the balm
03:43 nubbins` i regret trying to help
03:43 ben_vulpes well
03:43 ben_vulpes enjoy this instead
03:43 ben_vulpes http://champagne.shithouse.tv/
03:43 assbot champagne ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jou8eg )
03:44 nubbins` that sure is an image
03:44 ben_vulpes sho nuff
03:44 ben_vulpes i'm trying to get a book deal
03:47 punkman http://nymag.com/thecut/2014/02/tinder-makes-its-first-match-in-antarctica.html
03:47 assbot Tinder Makes Its First Match in Antarctica -- The Cut ... ( http://bit.ly/1JouDF5 )
03:50 nubbins` so i have this korg sample sequencer, and it comes with 100 built-in sounds
03:50 nubbins` you have to use an iphone app to load new samples onto it
03:51 nubbins` except they were kind enough to release an SDK, written in C, on github ;o
03:51 punkman doesn't have line in?
03:51 nubbins` http://korginc.github.io/volcasample/index.html
03:51 assbot - volca sample SDK ... ( http://bit.ly/18epC4w )
03:51 ben_vulpes oh hey where's bingoboingo
03:51 nubbins` no line in
03:51 nubbins` it's v inexpensive
03:52 ben_vulpes how does the sound get into it?
03:52 nubbins` modulates it into modem-y sounds
03:52 nubbins` which you play in through the clock sync port
03:52 nubbins` which is an 1/8" audio jack
03:52 nubbins` http://www.korg.com/us/products/dj/volca_sample/
03:52 assbot volca sample DIGITAL SAMPLE SEQUENCER | DJ & Production Tools | KORG ... ( http://bit.ly/18epK4a )
03:53 nubbins` you can also transfer sequence information via this same method
03:53 * ben_vulpes segfaults
03:53 ben_vulpes no
03:53 ben_vulpes nonono
03:53 nubbins` so, e.g. arrange your patterns beforehand and send em over
03:54 nubbins` it's actually surprisingly fun.
03:54 nubbins` https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSTxg43_wBM
03:54 assbot KORG volca sample - Tweak, Play, and Sequence Samples - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JovLZr )
03:56 nubbins` and will literally hit brown notes if connected to a proper sound system
03:57 ben_vulpes i gave up on proper sound systems
03:57 ben_vulpes it just makes life so much worse when people show up and play youtube videos
03:57 nubbins` yeah
03:57 nubbins` even headphones
03:57 nubbins` https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THImd641WXk
03:57 assbot Introducing KORG volca sample - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/18eqINQ )
03:58 nubbins` ^ this is the creator messing with it
03:58 ben_vulpes i can't wait for bandwidth to get expensive again
03:58 nubbins` takes one piano sound and makes an entire sequence with it
04:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84156 @ 0.00048645 = 40.9377 BTC [-] {5}
04:06 thestringpuller I think that last netsplit resulted in my getting ddosed
04:06 ben_vulpes there he is
04:07 thestringpuller it was pretty bad they disconnected me for 40 minutes off the backbone
04:07 ben_vulpes yowch
04:07 thestringpuller Pretty much like an outage but there wasn't an outage at all, so it had to be DDOS.
04:08 thestringpuller Something is still sucking bandwidth but not as bad.
04:08 thestringpuller like a fat dude sitting in front of my door or something
04:08 thestringpuller how are you ben_vulpes ?
04:08 Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment" http://bitbet.us/bet/786/ Odds: 20(Y):80(N) by coin, 43(Y):57(N) by weight. Total bet: 5509.50957001 BTC. Current weight: 6,148.
04:08 ben_vulpes writing a thing
04:08 ben_vulpes first time in months
04:08 ben_vulpes feels good
04:10 thestringpuller now qntra news this weekend?
04:10 thestringpuller no*
04:10 ben_vulpes that's your bag not mine
04:11 thestringpuller ;;seen BingoBoingo
04:11 gribble BingoBoingo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 21 hours, 47 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <BingoBoingo> asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: perhaps we have your new pc here. << very interesting
04:24 ben_vulpes http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2015/01/25_what-does-it-mean-to-bitcoinate-and-just-as-importantly-what-does-bitcoinating-not-include.html
04:24 assbot What does it mean to "bitcoinate"? And just as importantly, what does bitcoinating not include? ... ( http://bit.ly/18evdrH )
04:24 ben_vulpes and to all a good night!
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05:38 fluffypony ben_vulpes: that's precisely the current Monero architecture
05:39 fluffypony the daemon maintains the connection to the network
05:39 fluffypony relays blocks / transactions, stores the blockchain, etc.
05:39 fluffypony and then you can run as many wallet clients as you want
05:39 fluffypony even if they're on separate computers and talk over your LAN to the daemon
05:40 fluffypony oh, and the daemon is also the thing that does / can do solo mining
05:40 fluffypony although it'll gladly serve up work via a GBT-style call
05:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27658 @ 0.00051515 = 14.248 BTC [+]
05:50 punkman http://www.amusingplanet.com/2013/04/the-leaning-buildings-of-santos-brazil.html
05:50 assbot The Leaning Buildings of Santos, Brazil | Amusing Planet ... ( http://bit.ly/1C0HM6h )
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07:34 punkman !up coderwill
07:38 coderwill punkman: thanks, cheers
07:42 coderwill I was following a conversation on GitHub for Bitcoin.org, and found it interesting that Circle has explicitly requested to be removed from the site because it targets a different demographic from what they are searching for.
07:44 coderwill https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin.org/pull/700#issuecomment-71344693
07:44 assbot Add long time duration HSTS as a requirement for wallets by saivann · Pull Request #700 · bitcoin/bitcoin.org · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1yGUhkX )
07:51 punkman coderwill, nobody will want anything to do with bitcoin.org or the foundation, sooner or later
07:52 coderwill punkman: i can understand the foundation, but i wonder why the website?
07:53 coderwill punkman: BF just pays a sponsorship fee to help cover the hosting costs, and to support saivann helping maintain it and a few other projects on there, they don't own it
08:02 punkman coderwill: iirc bitcoin.org and bitcointalk.org are owned by some dude that for some reason lets various derps use them
08:03 punkman https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Sirius
08:03 assbot Sirius - Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jp9RoX )
08:03 coderwill Ah ok, I'm don't know about that.
08:03 coderwill I don't*
08:05 punkman http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-06-2014#732169
08:05 assbot Logged on 25-06-2014 15:27:40; ThickAsThieves: "bitcoin.org's content is managed by Saïvann Carignan, who is somewhat associated with the Foundation (though not an employee AFAIK), but the bitcoin.org domain name is jointly owned by me, Sirius, and an anonymous person. We will take action if bitcoin.org is being used inappropriately or the development group does something crazy." ~Theymos
08:06 punkman !up coderwill
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09:51 decimation asciilifeform: some guy uploaded a pre-wwii map into the pedi-wikia that plots the locations of functional german hamlets in european ru https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Russia#mediaviewer/File:Russia_ethnic.JPG
09:52 assbot European Russia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1EjmVfh )
09:57 decimation I didn't realize that the Crimea was filled with Tartars
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10:22 fluffypony davout: lol
10:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24950 @ 0.00051159 = 12.7642 BTC [+] {2}
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10:45 davout ;;later tell mircea_popescu: looks like /r/buttcoin folks are actually agreeing
10:45 gribble The operation succeeded.
10:45 davout "If Bitcoiners could ever get decent adoption and max out that 7 transactions per second the fees wouldn't even have to be that bad. Just make every transaction cost 0.006 BTC and that's just $1.50. That would be the equivalent of the current block reward. But the problem is they've all decided that microtransactions while having an expensive Bitcoin is the killer feature."
10:45 davout seems to me that folks from /r/buttcoin are an order of magnitude less retarded than those in /r/bitcoin
10:48 davout fluffypony: the saivann guy is obviously some sort of topological equivalent of a feminist, tries to push irrelevant shit to feel like he, in some way, matters
10:48 davout ;;isup mpex.co
10:48 gribble mpex.co is up
10:48 davout gribble: lies
10:50 mod6 $proxies
10:50 empyex mod6: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz mpex.co mpex.biz mpex.coinbr.com Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91
10:50 empyex mod6: MPEx-Status: mpex.bz (89 milliseconds), mpex.co (91 milliseconds), mpex.ws (102 milliseconds), mpex.biz (167 milliseconds), mpex.coinbr.com (592 milliseconds)
10:50 empyex mod6: Health-Indicators: Homepage: √ MK Depth JSON: √ VWAP JSON: √
10:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52200 @ 0.00051512 = 26.8893 BTC [+] {2}
10:59 mats http://www.geekwire.com/2015/microsoft-buy-revolution-analytics-pushing-big-data/
10:59 assbot Microsoft to buy Revolution Analytics, pushing further into big data - GeekWire ... ( http://bit.ly/1z9WK9K )
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11:33 mats http://dedis.cs.yale.edu/dissent/papers/analysis.pdf re: dining cryptographer nets
11:33 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1GT5bJU )
11:34 mats http://bford.info/pub/net/panopticon-cacm.pdf more on 'Dissent'
11:35 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1GT5zIz )
11:45 mats http://www.onlineprogrammingbooks.com/legally-free-oreilly-media-books/
11:45 assbot O'Reilly Media Books Free to Read or Download Legally : Download Free Book ... ( http://bit.ly/1B9AIik )
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12:14 assbot BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021389 B (Total: 467.74 B). Delta: -1.46 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.000205 BTC [+]
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13:41 mircea_popescu davout well geneally yes, but some voices in particular seem to hate you personally.
13:41 ben_vulpes guten tag saboteure
13:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 39 @ 0.10061442 = 3.924 BTC [-] {12}
13:42 davout i guess so
13:42 mircea_popescu http://41.media.tumblr.com/7d46f615b1b0a8b15b62014971b174ee/tumblr_nguhfqJAEQ1sb822ho1_500.jpg happy panties on thighs day.
13:42 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1EklIEA )
13:42 davout as the classical french wisdom goes: "on est tous le connard de quelqu'un d'autre"
13:42 mircea_popescu jstolfi 3 points 14 days ago
13:42 mircea_popescu It looks like he made his goal in life to be the most detestable person in the internet. (Methinks he is still nowhere near that rank, though.) However he is a precious resource, as an expert bitcoiner who enjoys kicking some of the most sacred cows in bitcoinland.
13:43 mircea_popescu so apparently this stolfi brazilian derp figures himself some sort of stragetist or something ?
13:44 mircea_popescu i dun think there's anything more adorkably pathetic than academics aiming for political power. sort-of like the bichon frizee trying to mount a german shepherd in heat.
13:44 mircea_popescu dat dangling minipenis, a foot under the all consuming hole...
13:46 mircea_popescu http://news.yahoo.com/colleague-slain-prosecutor-barred-leaving-argentina-215640674.html <<< pity we can't make bets on whether he "suicides" too. "protective custody" my foot.
13:46 assbot Argentine prosecutor shot point blank in forehead: official - Yahoo News ... ( http://bit.ly/1EkmuBB )
13:46 asciilifeform Can Have Problems (tm) !
13:49 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: did you see cai guo-qiang's fireworks last night?
13:50 mircea_popescu mnope
13:50 mircea_popescu wassat ?
13:50 ben_vulpes chinese explosives "artist"
13:50 ben_vulpes did the beijing olympics
13:50 ben_vulpes "paints" with gunpowder between vellum sheets
13:51 ben_vulpes saw a scad of his stuff at the guggenheim when i lived in nyc. rather fun.
13:51 mircea_popescu ah la boca.
13:51 mircea_popescu well... i guess because i was mostly indoors ? only 10 or so miles away
13:51 ben_vulpes suspended a bunch of cars right down the center of the place with flourescent tubes to evoke a fireworks show
13:51 mircea_popescu ah
13:51 mircea_popescu so not actual fireworks ?
13:52 ben_vulpes well not the static piece in the middle of the goog lol no
13:52 ben_vulpes he did the beijing olympics firework show iirc
13:53 ben_vulpes https://twitter.com/CasaRosadaAR/status/559146735344562176 << haw
13:53 assbot El periodista Damián Pachter viajó a Uruguay con pasaje de regreso para el 2 de febrero http://t.co/dUGwifa9AO http://t.co/muWhkHEvfK
13:53 mircea_popescu eyah but you're basically assking someone in manhattan if they saw whatever cars in astoria.
13:54 mircea_popescu it's a ways.
13:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26256 @ 0.00046955 = 12.3285 BTC [-]
13:55 ben_vulpes yeah but fireworks!
13:55 mircea_popescu dude.
13:55 mircea_popescu was it fireworks or was it suspended cars ?!
13:56 mircea_popescu anyway, either way i somehow didn't see nething.
13:56 mircea_popescu http://latidobuenosaires.com/mapa-de-la-boca.gif << here's a map of ba barrios for the curious
13:56 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ba7sbd )
13:57 mircea_popescu !up coderwill
13:57 coderwill thanks
13:57 coderwill just reading about this nisman story, bizarre
13:58 mircea_popescu quite.
13:58 ben_vulpes the cars were at the guggenheim in nyc
13:58 ben_vulpes yeeeears go
13:58 ben_vulpes the guy does fireworks.
13:58 ben_vulpes but whatever, irrelevant.
13:59 coderwill what does la boca have to do w/ the nisman situation?
13:59 ben_vulpes nothing
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14:00 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes yup i missed it w/e it was.
14:01 coderwill ah, n/m then :)
14:02 mircea_popescu http://36.media.tumblr.com/41e5fb4725d897b4889563a86f34f07c/tumblr_mgc1uhtoBg1r43ttjo1_500.jpg << guys suck at making cakes.
14:02 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ekq7aL )
14:02 mircea_popescu !up TL121
14:03 ben_vulpes kinda looks like the self-leveling stuff
14:03 ben_vulpes scam
14:07 mircea_popescu the woman or the goop ?
14:08 * ben_vulpes ponders the notion of a self-leveling woman
14:09 mircea_popescu "i said give me those buoys!"
14:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44700 @ 0.0005123 = 22.8998 BTC [+] {5}
14:25 mircea_popescu "Frank Sinatra had a terrible temper, as shown by his irrational hatred of Barbara Streisand"
14:25 mircea_popescu dude paul anka is fucking retarded. how the fuck would a hatred of nosewoman be irrational ?
14:27 pete_dushenski because rationality says: love jooz
14:27 pete_dushenski or something
14:28 ben_vulpes http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/americas-best-selling-cars-and-trucks-are-built-on-lies-the-rise-of-fake-engine-noise/2015/01/21/6db09a10-a0ba-11e4-b146-577832eafcb4_story.html << craaaaapflation
14:28 assbot America’s best-selling cars and trucks are built on lies: The rise of fake engine noise - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ekyinh )
14:28 mircea_popescu lol
14:29 mircea_popescu i wonder how long until someone makes a sexnoises app
14:29 asciilifeform obligatory: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=21-01-2015#985211
14:29 assbot Logged on 21-01-2015 01:41:29; asciilifeform: speaking of diamonds (specifically of the synthetic variety), one possible observation here - not concerning the idiocy of the wood thing as such - is that anyone demanding a specific 'colour' (as per the 'monolith' essay) - i.e. provenance - of object, is begging to be chumped
14:30 ben_vulpes i've always wanted to crush some diamonds.
14:30 mircea_popescu "Among purists, the trickery has inspired an identity crisis and cut to the heart of American auto legend. "
14:30 mircea_popescu hjeh
14:31 mircea_popescu look, it's dying, what do you want from it. cars are pretty fucking stupid. they had an economic niche which made us forget temporarily, but it's closed up.
14:31 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: diamond cleaves along crystal plane - how do you suppose folks cut them prior to lasers ?
14:31 pete_dushenski the fake car noises are because the cars are so well insulated now
14:31 pete_dushenski and the engines are all turbo because "fuel-efficiency"
14:31 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski but the "idnetity crisis" is not because of the change in car noise.
14:31 mircea_popescu it's because in the change in the future prospects of the whole activity.
14:32 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: i have a notion of how diamond cutting works/ed
14:32 asciilifeform see the advantages: you can reprogram the faux vroom speaker for horse whinny.
14:32 mircea_popescu merely disguises itself as "because X", like a domestic argument. in fact, it's becaue there's going to be a divorce.
14:32 ben_vulpes i want to actually crush some.
14:32 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: you're right, the identity crisis is that of americans as a whole
14:33 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: how does one go about crushing diamond? hydraulic press?
14:33 ben_vulpes something like that.
14:33 mircea_popescu well that's one thinmg, but specifically as to the car, this entire car-and-zoning-laws-and-sprawl-and-commute model got killed by the internet
14:33 mircea_popescu THAT's disruption.
14:33 mircea_popescu and it's killed and dead and not coming back and everyone and everything will change to get rid of cars, and of the sprawl
14:33 mircea_popescu and of commutes and of the right of "governments" to decide land use.
14:33 ben_vulpes us road infrastructure is falling apart due to expense of maintenance.
14:34 pete_dushenski cheap gas might give it a few more minutes of breath
14:34 ben_vulpes last generation's boondoggle.
14:34 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes understand : no mistress is ever pooir bnecause "of expense".
14:34 mircea_popescu she's poor becauise she sucks at sucking cock.
14:34 mircea_popescu it's only expensive because we're really done with them. otherwise, they'd be a "great investment".
14:34 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski notrly, because it's not really about the gas. it's about the inconvenience.
14:35 mircea_popescu people don't want to spend an hour driving, they want to spend that hour derping on a dating app
14:35 pete_dushenski which would be why average joe can't wait to get a self-driving car
14:35 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: weren't they a grand investment for that generation?
14:36 mircea_popescu (not for fucking, mind you. so give them a work at home job where no woman can ever come and a way to score nude tumblrs and that's the new economic model)
14:36 ben_vulpes https://github.com/bitcoinfs/bitcoinfs << entirely unrelated. "full node" in f#, m$ "turdlang"
14:36 assbot bitcoinfs/bitcoinfs · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1EkAb3m )
14:36 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes yeah, they were, back when the interstates were built. that's perhaps the shiniest example opf "govt investment in slump" mantra.
14:36 mircea_popescu when it's fucking clear what to spen the money on, so clear even a govt could figure it out, keynesianism works.
14:36 pete_dushenski same thing we're seeing in china at the moment
14:37 pete_dushenski they've used more concrete in the past 3 years than usa in the past century
14:37 mircea_popescu had bush spent ALL the stimulus on making internet connecxtions of 1tbps universally available, i wouldn't be here snubbing my nose at horowitz
14:37 pete_dushenski all for the interstates and highways and byways
14:37 mircea_popescu yeah. bad call.
14:37 pete_dushenski "but it worked for usa"
14:37 decimation the problem with a fancy interstate is that it costs a shitton of $$$ for upkeep
14:37 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: when do we get cobol node
14:38 decimation and of course it is politically impossible to admit 'we are too poor to have nice roads'
14:38 pete_dushenski decimation: impossible sums of money
14:38 mircea_popescu decimation i never heard of anyone complain that their 16yo cocksucker costs money to upkeep.
14:38 mircea_popescu complaints start after the 30th birthday.
14:38 decimation pete_dushenski: aren't you a fan of the econtalk podcast?
14:38 * pete_dushenski is, fittingly, working on another car-related article atm
14:38 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: what about a cl node?
14:38 pete_dushenski ya
14:38 mircea_popescu lol pete, repackage this you're halfway there
14:39 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: that one is after nubbins` prints the fscking book and i read it
14:39 pete_dushenski this might have to be part deux!
14:39 decimation They had some guy talk about transportation in the us in 2013: http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2013/10/winston_on_tran.html
14:39 assbot " + soundfiledesc + " ... ( http://bit.ly/1EkAYS2 )
14:39 pete_dushenski scratch that, it's going to be an epic footnote
14:39 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8943709 << also saw this this morning
14:39 assbot Mezzanine: A Common Lisp-based 64-bit OS for VirtualBox | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1EkB0ZZ )
14:39 ben_vulpes abstractions atop abstractions...
14:40 pete_dushenski decimation: i vaguely remember that one
14:40 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes you know teh second system effect ?
14:40 mircea_popescu where people end up making ftp clients for firefox extensions ? because "it can be done"
14:40 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: see earlier experiment of the same flavour, 'movitz'
14:40 decimation "But, when you sum these things up in terms of what consumers spend in terms of getting to work, various pleasure trips and non-work trips, and then you look at what shippers spend on shipping freight and so on and so forth, and then what the government spends building infrastructure, we're talking shares of GDP (Gross Domestic Product) that approach the amount that we are spending on health care. ... And that's just out of pocket
14:40 decimation expenditures. "
14:40 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: it isn't that hard to port, e.g., sbcl, to 'metal' - but then you end up in driver hell.
14:41 mircea_popescu decimation all of that used to not matter when one considered on the other side the even greater expenses of the available alternatives.
14:41 mircea_popescu but that other side has evaporated.
14:42 ben_vulpes i've seen windows 3.1 in javascript...
14:42 mircea_popescu right ?
14:42 decimation 'other side' being more or less 'private' transport and land use planning?
14:42 asciilifeform death of the auto >> obligatory >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-09-2014#833541
14:42 assbot Logged on 18-09-2014 16:10:16; gribble: Autosaurus - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff7aj2ZItuk>; Adbusters - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adbusters>; Sim City: Auto-Saurus-Rex, Volcano, UFO's in Spacington! - Spacing ...: <http://spacing.ca/atlantic/2012/06/08/sim-city-auto-saurus-rex-volcano-ufos-in-spacington/>
14:43 mircea_popescu decimation no. "working at home" , "jacking off to porn and looking at sights on pinterest"
14:43 mircea_popescu work and pleasure. solved, and much safer than actually going there.
14:43 mircea_popescu "it's certainly uncontaminated by any cheese", to quote cleese.
14:44 decimation mmorpgs and other like games probably 'employ' much 'excess' capacity in the us
14:44 mircea_popescu we meet irl once a year, and even that's extravagant for like half the people.
14:45 mircea_popescu yet we meet here each day.
14:45 mircea_popescu what if we had to phisically drive to vegas, like kennedy HAD TO in the 50s ?
14:45 mircea_popescu we would, of course. so what the driveway cost would not be a topic of conversation.
14:45 mircea_popescu who here is on an economy internet package ? everyone just "give me the fattest pipe you got" "oh only that ? INTRODUCE LARGER ONES!"
14:47 thestringpuller I nominate mircea_popescu for the bitcoin public service award!
14:47 asciilifeform lol, yeah, see recent thread where i 'what's a gb optic terminal cost plz'
14:47 thestringpuller After reading all of MPOE-PR's post, I have realized MP has done the greatest public service to this community.
14:47 mircea_popescu asciilifeform well you should have seen town meetings in the 60s. "FIFTY LANES WE MUST HAS! EACH WAY!"
14:47 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: laugh if you must, but my town still has these same meetings.
14:48 mircea_popescu yeah well you're in the sticks.
14:48 mircea_popescu thestringpuller you actually read the whole lot /
14:48 mircea_popescu ?
14:48 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the road never actually gets expanded, of course. but there is endless derp on the subject, for so long as i've lived here (~11 years)
14:48 decimation mircea_popescu: actually much of the worst road 'infrastructure' in the northeast are in cities where people stopped highways from being built
14:49 mircea_popescu decimation im sure.
14:49 decimation around the same time, passenger rail went tits up, so there's little choice except shitty driving
14:49 asciilifeform there is rail here. it is mainly used to get in and out of wash., d.c.
14:50 mircea_popescu boston actually had excellent rail system. perhaps the best in the us.
14:50 mircea_popescu back in 2004, it was car after carful of people all reading a book
14:50 mircea_popescu i've seen pics these days. half as full, everyone on gadget.
14:50 decimation in fact, the sitting senator for maryland, mikulski, was personally involved in leading the riot to stop the connection of I-70 to downtown
14:50 decimation because it was racis
14:50 mircea_popescu it's just... moving around is dead.
14:51 asciilifeform if only it were entirely dead
14:51 decimation I suspect wash dc is one of the few cities with a major upper class commuting culture
14:51 decimation because usg is too stupid to move to somewhere cheaper
14:51 mircea_popescu decimation govt employees are not upper class.
14:52 decimation heh, well it's what passes in wash dc
14:52 asciilifeform actually, usg ministries where no official secrets are involved - now routinely let folks grunt remotely
14:52 asciilifeform e.g., patent office.
14:52 mircea_popescu of course the lord's slave mistress is what passes for upper class among the slaves. nevertheless, the actual upper class regards the favored equal to the common slave.
14:52 nubbins` cough
14:53 mircea_popescu decimation how was teh connection racis ?
14:53 nubbins` the book indeed
14:53 thestringpuller ;;seen BingoBoingo
14:53 gribble BingoBoingo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 8 hours, 29 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: <BingoBoingo> asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: perhaps we have your new pc here. << very interesting
14:53 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: have you made contact with BingoBoingo?
14:53 thestringpuller QNTRA is stale :(
14:53 mircea_popescu <decimation> because usg is too stupid to move to somewhere cheaper <>< nah, not how it works. wherever it moves, the bedbugs move there too. it won't stay cheaper.
14:54 asciilifeform ^
14:54 mircea_popescu thestringpuller i have not, no.
14:54 mircea_popescu did he get browbagged ?!
14:54 thestringpuller hope feds haven't kidnapped him.
14:54 thestringpuller i swear d00ds were following me in fed-like manner in rural georgia last night.
14:55 nubbins` what manner is that
14:55 mircea_popescu thestringpuller did you submit an article or something ?
14:56 thestringpuller I was gonna do some weekend snippet posts to help lighten the load.
14:56 mircea_popescu so did you submit anything ?
14:57 thestringpuller more of "inquiry". article snippet is still in VIM rite nao.
14:57 mircea_popescu aha
14:57 thestringpuller usually BB tells me if subject matter is "worthy" or not of qntra
14:57 mircea_popescu http://36.media.tumblr.com/444e9675df9943ed6c6d5a885c8dd174/tumblr_ng4oj5R4S01tmf8ldo1_500.jpg << apparently chicks CAN be hawt in glasses.
14:57 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1BqaLOg )
14:58 thestringpuller but yea
14:58 thestringpuller someone dropped this in my PM's >> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=934268.0;all
14:58 thestringpuller where do you find such tasetful porn?!?
14:59 nubbins` who is burtw
14:59 mircea_popescu burt wagner
14:59 thestringpuller he ran a Pirate Passthru back in times of yore
14:59 mircea_popescu ambiguous, was a pedo early bitcoin advocate with a ridoinculous hourlong webshow
15:00 mircea_popescu was also one of the guys involved in "banker cartel" pirate bs.
15:00 nubbins` o
15:00 mircea_popescu in his defense, this later one was the saner of the bunch
15:00 nubbins` show me an early advocate without a severe sexual disorder
15:00 mircea_popescu iirc he even apologized and errything. dun recall if privately or publicly or what, years ago.
15:00 mircea_popescu nubbins` ikr ?!
15:01 mircea_popescu nubbins` you should fish out the shows tho, they're great. derp has the camera filming in demo mode
15:01 nubbins` heh
15:01 mircea_popescu and it's alltogether just a bunch of artisanship
15:01 thestringpuller nubbins`: I guess their mommy's told them playing with their weewee is bad.
15:01 nubbins` reminds me of the time i filmed my death & had it played for my school lit class while i took the final week off
15:01 nubbins` frame changes to view from bottom of bridge
15:02 nubbins` CONTRAGULATIONS in glorious chunky white vhs-c lettering superimposed on the bottom
15:02 nubbins` completely by accident, no way to remove it. we deemed it fitting and didn't re-shoot.
15:02 mircea_popescu an hero is you ?
15:03 nubbins` an hero wasn't me, a bunch of ears of corn broke my fall
15:03 nubbins` then an unrelated scuffle on the bridge led to a man being thrown off, landing on me and killing me
15:03 nubbins` it was a real roller coaster
15:04 mircea_popescu i recall this grandiose commie romanian cinema thing, where "so what do we do ?! " "well... he can jump on some ears of corn" "but the camera will pick them up". pause. "not if you cover them in a brick painted sheet"
15:04 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: I can submit writeup if deemed worthy otherwise It'll stay in the vim buffer
15:04 mircea_popescu guy ended up falling on an inexplicable pile of bricks
15:06 pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/2015/01/25/a-retrospective-on-six-years-in-the-car-blogosphere/
15:06 assbot A retrospective on six years in the car blogosphere | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bqbxuo )
15:06 nubbins` https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=935720.0
15:06 assbot [WTB] Laser-engraved blocks of wood ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bqbwqq )
15:06 nubbins` i lel'd
15:06 ben_vulpes entirely unrelated, it strikes me that a full node should probably provide "getwork" type commands for miners
15:06 nubbins` he's actually kind of an older guy hey?
15:07 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes why ?
15:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30300 @ 0.00051729 = 15.6739 BTC [+] {2}
15:07 mircea_popescu "Preference will be given to those who provide video of them damaging the finished piece with a dremel tool." lol ok
15:09 nubbins` heh
15:09 nubbins` there's screen grabs somewhere
15:09 decimation re: baltimore: www.prrac.org/pdf/mohl.pdf "Over the next few years, RAM continued to protest the "victimization" of black communities in the path of the interstate, which purposefully seemed designed to take "the heart out of one of the most stable communities in Baltimore." Facing the removal of 10,000 blacks who lived in the path of the east-west expressway, RAM activists challenged the highway engineers who “view people as just
15:09 decimation another obstacle, like a hill to be leveled or a valley to be bridged.”"
15:09 nubbins` incidentally his actual profession is "treatment plant operator" but w/e
15:10 mircea_popescu "To most, the fact that Lila called Mitch a hero for killing himself is strange. "
15:10 mircea_popescu dumbass purimericans. yo, seneca killed himself!
15:10 nubbins` https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=935115.msg10255332#msg10255332
15:10 assbot Videos of WoodCollector Hand Carving: Care of MOB ... ( http://bit.ly/1zbqt24 )
15:10 mircea_popescu "to deny entropy that final satisfaction".
15:10 nubbins` i probably would actually pay upwards of $100 for that piece, as-is.
15:10 pete_dushenski ^all the car tawk is in footnote viii :)
15:10 nubbins` A++++ would hang on wall
15:11 mircea_popescu nubbins` that's a great way to end up in 20 years surrounded by junk
15:11 nubbins` i purge as often as i binge
15:11 mircea_popescu decimation you know i can actually see that argument ?
15:11 nubbins` space is at a premium here 8)
15:11 mircea_popescu not as to racism in any sense, but as to why it's a bad idea
15:11 nubbins` anyway, my dad makes pen blanks, he'd love it
15:12 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: i guess not in the spirit of modular design.
15:13 decimation mircea_popescu: yeah I think you have a good point
15:13 ben_vulpes perhaps better would be a thing that connects to the network, slurps out unconfirmed transactions and poops that back out as the mining input...
15:13 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes well, if you gonna do something, best know why you're doing it.
15:13 thestringpuller nubbins`: this saga reminds me of some trailer park boys shit.
15:13 mircea_popescu decimation i mean, if the entire objection to the mores of the black ghetto is that men don't live with the women they impregnate, and then you go demolish the one place for 500 miles where they actually do...
15:13 thestringpuller ben_vulpes smokes now.
15:14 * thestringpuller snaps fingers
15:14 decimation the problem is that in democracy, it's really easy to kill off projects, so nothing is built
15:14 nubbins` "Professional carpenters never, ever, EVER smoke in the shop. It's an incredible fire hazard as well as a personal danger since stimulants can increase the risk of slippage on a power tool. My father was an avid chain smoker and would never allow tobacco in his work area."
15:14 mircea_popescu decimation sure, but on the other hand the job of politics is to avoid placing the table on the toes.
15:14 ben_vulpes thestringpuller: smokes, let's go.
15:14 decimation mircea_popescu: although in this particular case, the neighborhoods were saved and they ended up full of broken families anyway
15:15 mircea_popescu well yes. politics doesn't work, we know that going in.
15:17 decimation this robert moses guy singlehandedly paved over many minority communities all around the northeast
15:20 mircea_popescu http://38.media.tumblr.com/663d73bfaf012e37a252ea40446c14ff/tumblr_ngp5fkkC3O1tghbqho1_500.gif << why boobjobs exist
15:20 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1zbubIR )
15:22 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: those definitely look real.
15:22 mircea_popescu yeah. real bad.
15:23 thestringpuller i would hate to fast forward 20 years tho
15:23 thestringpuller swing low sweet chariot
15:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00049654 = 6.8523 BTC [-]
15:25 mircea_popescu nubbins`: i suspect smoothie from the forums is kinda stupid << generally known as such. his behaviour throughout was, to quote hanbot "nothing short of bizarre"
15:26 mircea_popescu hm.... i never knew an "artisan" that works wood by the truckload ? this is akin to someone claiming to be dali explaining how he gets a truckload of paint a week...'
15:26 thestringpuller !b 1
15:26 assbot Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3J3CJZ2.txt )
15:30 mircea_popescu assbot: Tinder Makes Its First Match in Antarctica -- The Cut << speaking oif which : the brave mthreat amongst us is going on a south pole expedition like next week
15:30 mircea_popescu and he's going to try an' broadcast a btc txn from down there.
15:32 mircea_popescu fluffypony: ben_vulpes: that's precisely the current Monero architecture << heh. apparently sanity is not a luxury product.
15:33 mircea_popescu coderwill: I was following a conversation on GitHub for Bitcoin.org, and found it interesting that Circle has explicitly requested to be removed from the site because it targets a different demographic from what they are searching for. << yeah., circle is looking for suckers / idiots / people who refuse to think.
15:35 thestringpuller ;;ticker
15:35 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 249.02, Best ask: 249.23, Bid-ask spread: 0.21000, Last trade: 249.23, 24 hour volume: 23858.11300772, 24 hour low: 241.33, 24 hour high: 255.0, 24 hour vwap: 248.526571821
15:35 mircea_popescu decimation: I didn't realize that the Crimea was filled with Tartars << golden horde sez nothing to you ?
15:35 mircea_popescu davout: seems to me that folks from /r/buttcoin are an order of magnitude less retarded than those in /r/bitcoin << this is true.
15:36 mircea_popescu one group is motivated by greed, which brings all the idiots out of the woodwork. the other group is motivated by broken ideology, which HAS a barrier to entry, because you can't adhere to an ideology and act on that basis if you're arbitrarily stupid.
15:37 mircea_popescu it's true that you can't be smarter than Y, but you also can't be stupider than Y, and so the average will always be over Y which is not an average /r/bitcoin looks likely to reach.
15:37 mircea_popescu but this because of what /r/ is, not because of what bitcoin is.
15:37 decimation yeah I knew tartars/turkic peoples were scattered around the middle and eastern parts of asiatic ru, but I didn't realize they had taken up around Sevastopol
15:37 mircea_popescu there was a historically important tatar state there,
15:38 mircea_popescu at times more important than the muscovy duchy etc.
15:38 thestringpuller what happens when all these VC fueled comapnies fail? Do we just go in an plunder them and shit?
15:38 mircea_popescu this is what one means when he says "lithuanian situation is complicated".
15:38 thestringpuller ;;ud lituation
15:38 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Lituation | You go to the bodega and a chicken cutlet is half off and they give you a free bag of chips and an Arizona because they know you. That's a lituation.
15:38 mircea_popescu you could in fact pretend like wait, "give russia back to the tatars"
15:39 decimation putin's landgrab of crimea has a great deal of historical and cultural importance, of which the west is almost completely ignorant
15:40 decimation http://theden.tv/2015/01/24/jesuisusefulidiot-western-leaders-exploit-the-paris-attacks/ "What was the #JeSuisCharlie demonstration about if not about free speech then? The shortest answer would be: emopolitik. As Colin Liddell has defined it, emopolitik is: “the achievement of political goals and the destabilization of rival political systems through the selective mobilization and projection of decontextualized human emotions and
15:40 assbot #JeSuisUsefulIdiot : Western Leaders Exploit the Paris Attacks | Thedening the West ... ( http://bit.ly/1yZqWRz )
15:40 decimation sympathies through social media.”"
15:40 mircea_popescu well, "the west" in the sense of, "west of ozarks" are people who live in states bordered by straight lines.
15:40 mircea_popescu obviously they imagine the world is you know, someone just walked out with a ruler cca 100 years ago
15:41 decimation but 'that's how we do things here?'
15:41 mircea_popescu decimation yep, that's pretty much what that was
15:41 decimation "Concretely, this has meant giving massive publicity and a momentous political significance to the 17 people killed in the Charlie Hebdo and related attacks. This contrasts sharply with the treatment given to any number of other recent tragedies: the 1,400 girls raped by largely Pakistani gangs in Rotherham, England, the tens of thousands of victims of Islamist terrorism in Syria, and the over 4,000 people killed in the Donbass
15:41 decimation region of Ukraine have not been given the same significance by the Brahmin classes of the West."
15:42 mircea_popescu more relevant to our interests : the one public prosecutor murdered by the argentine state in argentina.
15:42 mircea_popescu that's what i care about : statal terrorism.
15:43 mircea_popescu three guys that fire weapons by hand are not my concern. three million dickless schmucks sitting behind desks, those are the problem.
15:44 decimation sitting behind a desk breeds a kind of passive-agressive posturing syndrome
15:45 mircea_popescu which has to be beaten out of the afflicted, for everyone's benefit.
15:45 thestringpuller ^- it's still a public service tho
15:45 thestringpuller :D
15:49 davout decimation: "emopolitik" <<< this i like
15:50 decimation davout: yeah it's a good term. note that emopolitik is called "political strategy" in the democratic west
15:51 mircea_popescu well because the intellect is rarely functioning and universaly expensive to fire up, whereas the emoprocessor is always on.
15:51 mircea_popescu so of course any headcount-based system will try to talk to the latter.
15:52 mircea_popescu this is why you don't want "universal suffrage" : it makes politics a matter of emo manipulation, like marketing.
15:52 decimation "system 1" thinking vice "system 2" thinking
15:55 mircea_popescu anyway, the solution is quite simple : do not give everyone voice. have a voicing procedure in place.
15:55 mircea_popescu and the solution will prevail because the problems universal suffrage straddles its practitioners with are not only unresolvable, but actually heavier than the sum benefits.
15:55 mircea_popescu and as such... it fails on its own.
15:56 decimation mircea_popescu: one wonders why newspapers haven't caught onto this idea
15:56 mircea_popescu the intellect is rarely functioning and universaly expensive to fire up
15:57 mircea_popescu the only sort of situation where US systems approach survivability are very plain, obvious questions that everyone, even a turtle, would get right.
15:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22963 @ 0.00049352 = 11.3327 BTC [-] {3}
15:58 mircea_popescu which is whence the crisis-oriented politics of all US sytems comes from. the only time the US US made sense was during war with germany. "either yer fer or against!"
15:58 mircea_popescu so in general, sanity only needs very minimal measures to defend itself from the otherwise doomed attempts to relevancy of the us-ists : keep issues from becoming simple matters.
15:59 mircea_popescu not a hard task these days.
15:59 mircea_popescu (US = universal suffrage, not united states)
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16:20 jurov https://i.imgur.com/e1b0wCC.jpg i had no idea!
16:20 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1uNqA25 )
16:23 mats so meta
16:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16865 @ 0.00049721 = 8.3854 BTC [+]
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16:57 jurov lxr is same incredibly warty crufty stuff as mailman.. but seems i got it working somehow
16:57 jurov http://ml.btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/
16:57 jurov oops http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/
16:57 assbot Satoshi 0.5.3.chicken/ ... ( http://bit.ly/1L8WsDa )
17:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00048866 = 4.9355 BTC [-]
17:05 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2015/ok-so-what-is-bitcoin-disrupting/ << my modest etnry to "most important article published on the Internet in 2015"
17:05 assbot Ok, so what is Bitcoin disrupting ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1L8XsqO )
17:06 mircea_popescu wd jumae
17:06 mircea_popescu oops. wd jurov *
17:07 jurov if it had go parser, i'd put btcd there too
17:08 mircea_popescu there must be one
17:08 mircea_popescu gsuneido/parse.go ?
17:09 mircea_popescu oh nm, i think this goes the other way
17:09 jurov well... lxr is in perl
17:10 jurov maybe someday
17:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00049081 = 6.6259 BTC [+] {2}
17:21 mircea_popescu His mastery of the skill comes not from his ability to "cut around the lines" but in that he can from start to finish carve on some of the most difficult woods in the world to work with. Wood that 80% of your so called "master carvers" as they claim on youtube and the woodworking forums would not touch in a hundred years because it takes some serious talent to carve them.
17:21 mircea_popescu im sorry... wut ?!
17:21 mircea_popescu apparently the average chump believes talent to be a sort of spark-of-superman.
17:22 mircea_popescu maybe woodcollector should carve a block of boron carbide next, as a super-show of his super-talents.
17:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26792 @ 0.00050569 = 13.5484 BTC [+] {3}
17:43 mircea_popescu !up beautyon
17:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00050561 = 5.764 BTC [-] {2}
18:00 mircea_popescu http://tineye.com/search/60e43776e135af28e87b8d20f5facf024eb0b6c0/
18:00 assbot 0 results - TinEye ... ( http://bit.ly/15xVDTk )
18:00 mircea_popescu very useful ;/
18:00 mircea_popescu if anyone wants to know what happens to "exciting revolutionary start-ups" once the burn rate burns through... tin eye is a fine example.
18:00 mircea_popescu can't fucking find well known sets that are all over the interwebs.
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18:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20950 @ 0.00049087 = 10.2837 BTC [-]
18:20 Naphex https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=762075 lmao, mlm + ponzi scam kicking it up.
18:20 assbot [ANN] BitClub Network - Passive Bitcoin Mining Opportunity NOW LIVE! ... ( http://bit.ly/15y06FE )
18:22 mircea_popescu "This sounds like a legit deal to me because the bitcoin mining can keep it going."
18:22 mircea_popescu forum in a sentence.
18:22 Naphex apparently a lot of romanians & italians are biting on it
18:22 Naphex they get hooked irl ;o
18:23 mircea_popescu gotta lose their bitcoins somehow.
18:26 mircea_popescu !up BombaUcigasa_
18:26 mircea_popescu !up CoraCrisT
18:26 BombaUcigasa_ salut MP
18:26 CoraCrisT hey mircea_popescu . thanks!
18:26 mircea_popescu np np
18:26 BombaUcigasa_ nu sunt auth ca e web
18:26 BombaUcigasa_ am intrat sa vad discutia cu link-ul lui Naphex
18:27 mircea_popescu tis an english chan you know
18:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00048649 = 4.5244 BTC [-]
18:28 BombaUcigasa_ much regret, very forgetful, many mistake
18:28 mircea_popescu lol.
18:28 mircea_popescu anyway, what discussion, flavour of the week tardstalk scam
18:28 asciilifeform mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes, anyone else who is interested in node on 'pogo' - buy yourself the box (pogo model 4.) i intend to post a recipe soon.
18:29 mircea_popescu whole shebang ? pretty cool.
18:29 BombaUcigasa_ onecoin/btcclub convoluted "mining"/MLM schemes
18:29 CoraCrisT and don`t forget "the marketing plan" . they have all figured out it seems
18:29 CoraCrisT just waiting for the horde to join
18:30 mircea_popescu eh, read up on the ognasty thing , or the diablo whatever that was for the classics of the genre
18:31 mircea_popescu i suppose now that garza packed it, buncha noobs will be trying for the "first best largest" bitcoin scam thing.
18:33 mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/40d5ac3fd9993ba9c6cc78f0b84b081c/tumblr_ndv41usdYt1tf8ygvo1_1280.jpg << dacia ftw.
18:33 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/15y2zjt )
18:33 CoraCrisT and many more will fallow..
18:33 CoraCrisT i love the high heels... they go great with the rustic roads back home
18:34 CoraCrisT :X
18:36 BombaUcigasa_ dacia?
18:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00050656 = 3.9258 BTC [+]
18:42 BombaUcigasa_ nu vad http://trilema.com/2015/ok-so-what-is-bitcoin-disrupting/, nu ma prind, e o problema cu site-ul, nu apare postul ...
18:42 assbot Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/15y4g06 )
18:43 BombaUcigasa_ it works now
18:45 mats http://n0where.net/wpa2-halfhandshake-crack a new attack, i believe
18:45 assbot WPA2 HalfHandshake Crack ... ( http://bit.ly/15y51X6 )
18:46 asciilifeform mats: dictionary attack, snore.
18:48 mats yeah. there are also easier attacks if you mean to go the rogue AP route.
18:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1263 @ 0.00098375 = 1.2425 BTC [+]
18:52 thestringpuller ;;seen BingoBoingo
18:52 gribble BingoBoingo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 12 hours, 29 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: <BingoBoingo> asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: perhaps we have your new pc here. << very interesting
18:53 thestringpuller ^- your ip is showing
18:56 thestringpuller ;;ticker
18:56 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 254.41, Best ask: 254.94, Bid-ask spread: 0.53000, Last trade: 254.4, 24 hour volume: 28837.40598966, 24 hour low: 241.33, 24 hour high: 257.0, 24 hour vwap: 249.600325346
19:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24619 @ 0.00049955 = 12.2984 BTC [-] {2}
19:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5931 @ 0.00047265 = 2.8033 BTC [-] {2}
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19:32 Adlai anybody else see wtf just happened on btce
19:32 davout Adlai: do tell
19:33 Adlai 1min candle: high 261.64 low 240.01
19:35 Adlai it looked quite similar to what happened a few months back on bitfinex where the order book reported an out of date book about $20 below the current one
19:36 Adlai except that this now reports trades, and low limit orders got executed
19:36 Adlai i guess it's nothing compared to some previous flash sells, just caught me by surprise because it happened in front of my eyes
19:38 davout hory shet
19:40 davout way to shoot up
19:45 ben_vulpes ;;ticker
19:45 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 259.44, Best ask: 260.45, Bid-ask spread: 1.01000, Last trade: 260.44, 24 hour volume: 30063.99864451, 24 hour low: 241.33, 24 hour high: 263.2, 24 hour vwap: 250.107871168
19:46 Adlai ;;ticker --market btce
19:46 gribble BTC-E BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 254.956, Best ask: 254.972, Bid-ask spread: 0.01600, Last trade: 254.972, 24 hour volume: 18007.40965, 24 hour low: 239.013, 24 hour high: 263.0, 24 hour vwap: 251.0065
19:46 mircea_popescu Adlai web exchanges realligning to otc, what's the big deal ?
19:46 Adlai the slippage :)
19:46 ben_vulpes how can one align to otc
19:46 mircea_popescu yeah well.
19:46 ben_vulpes there's no price signal
19:47 Adlai to learn of the otc, you must become otc
19:47 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=20-01-2015#984699 etc
19:47 assbot Logged on 20-01-2015 19:39:33; mircea_popescu: but that's less important. what's more important is, bitcoin has no price signal and you propose to do derivatives. well... got some questions to answer.
19:47 ben_vulpes anyways, first sunny day in months and the hipsters set the badminton net up *smack* in the middle of the swamp
19:47 ben_vulpes must be spring
19:48 ben_vulpes meanwhile blizzard in nyc
19:48 thestringpuller gonna be good snowboarding this week lol
19:49 thestringpuller aspen niggas rubbin it in
19:54 mats http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jan/25/wikileaks-google-staff-emails-us-government
19:54 assbot WikiLeaks demands answers after Google hands staff emails to US government | Technology | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1yiIapm )
19:59 mircea_popescu answers as in... what ? "yes, fuck you." ?
20:01 Adlai for who will leak upon the leakers themselves/
20:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23100 @ 0.00050033 = 11.5576 BTC [+]
20:02 mircea_popescu "us company subsisting out of us fed subsidies fails to implement usg policy. is replaced with different one, nobody notices the difference."
20:02 mircea_popescu wtf.
20:07 mats replaced? schmidt has been a USG cocksucker since day 1
20:11 mircea_popescu that was kinda my point. what exactly would be the alternative here, google demures ? how.
20:14 mircea_popescu the usg is not going to like people fucking up its shit. that's not changing. google isn't going to start acting like anything but a usg agent. that's also not changing. what are teh staffers in question expect will happen, or expected will have happened ?
20:15 mircea_popescu what's next, ima write letters to the vessenes fake foundation about how their power rangers are fucking up bitcoin ?
20:15 mircea_popescu duh.
20:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00050322 = 3.4471 BTC [+] {2}
20:18 pete_dushenski might as well complain to the troika that they're pwning the periphery
20:19 pete_dushenski or to apple that they're updates make everything worse
20:20 pete_dushenski that's sorta the point of their continued existence
20:23 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: what's next, ima write letters to the vessenes << Maybe it's because I have autism, but why would you write them letters when you can publicly condemn?
20:24 thestringpuller "Dear Mr. Vessenes', You are a poop. Signed, mircea_popescu "
20:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 5000 @ 0.00099881 = 4.9941 BTC [+] {10}
20:26 jurov mircea can just twitterkill him
20:28 pete_dushenski i can twitterkill vessenes
20:28 pete_dushenski mp can't, gotta have twitter
20:31 thestringpuller teach me twitter fu pete_dushenski
20:31 pete_dushenski patience, grasshopper
20:32 pete_dushenski first, you must learn to scrub floors
20:32 pete_dushenski then you must learn to clean dishes
20:32 pete_dushenski then you must learn to sew clothes
20:32 pete_dushenski then, and only then, will i teach you the ways of the internet
20:35 pete_dushenski Andreessen Horowitz is heading up a $58 million round of investment in TransferWise
20:35 pete_dushenski Founded in 2011 and built by ex-Skype and PayPal engineers with the aim of making it easier (read: cheaper) to transfer pounds to euros, TransferWise says that it will be using the funds to fuel its global expansion.
20:35 thestringpuller pete_dushenski: i love the jew fro.
20:35 thestringpuller It's majestic af.
20:36 pete_dushenski it definitely draws attention
20:36 jurov such romance (*^*)
20:36 pete_dushenski lol
20:36 pete_dushenski such fambly, this cult
20:36 thestringpuller jurov: I think you mean bromance!
20:36 pete_dushenski thestringpuller: wait, you're a dude?!
20:37 * pete_dushenski kidding!
20:37 thestringpuller XD
20:38 thestringpuller I think I'm going to fulfill my Volvo dream pete_dushenski cause of your blog post lol
20:38 pete_dushenski see guise! blogging works!
20:39 pete_dushenski thestringpuller: you ever have a blog?
20:39 thestringpuller anything I really post is on thestringpuller.tumblr.com
20:39 mats tumblr blog. adorbs.
20:39 thestringpuller I was thinking of that story I put in the comments of your post. ANd was like "Why not get a volvo? It's gonna outlast most bitcoin businesses while being 30 years old as is."
20:40 thestringpuller mats: I KNO RITE. Not as adorable as my Xanga blog was.
20:40 pete_dushenski thestringpuller: lmao i love that dylan scene from chappelle
20:41 pete_dushenski "name da 5 best rappers of all time"
20:41 mats whoa, xanga. i haven't seen that name in almost a decade.
20:41 pete_dushenski "dylan, dylan, dylan, dylan, and dylan"
20:41 * mats reflects on fond memories of social networks in early 2000
20:41 thestringpuller pete_dushenski: Yah! Because of people like Dylan, we can't have nice things.
20:41 thestringpuller mats: Ya. My teenage school years. Such angst, such proto-social-networking.
20:42 thestringpuller MySpace. Lawls.
20:43 pete_dushenski ;;later tell peterl hey can we get thestringpuller.tumblr.com added to bablogs?
20:43 gribble The operation succeeded.
20:43 thestringpuller pete_dushenski: does your Benz take diesel?
20:44 pete_dushenski eh no. it's not a tractor.
20:44 thestringpuller Haven't really done my reading yet. XD
20:44 thestringpuller My buddy had a diesel benz in high school. That thing was a beast, p. much a tractor, but man you could abuse that thing and it'd still show love 800 miles from home.
20:45 thestringpuller I love cars like that. Shit you can drive in Siberia with 0 maintenance (like an asshole car owner), but the machine still chugs.
20:46 pete_dushenski well i basically live in siberia with health care so i guess that makes saddam perfect
20:46 pete_dushenski (my 560 is named "saddam" in case you missed that
20:46 pete_dushenski )
20:47 thestringpuller My buddy kept trying to convince me to get an E30 325 by BMW circa 1989
20:48 thestringpuller which I admit is tempting, but in the same sense as candy is tempting ~_~
20:51 pete_dushenski the e30 was built in an era when only entry-level cars failed completely after a few year
20:52 pete_dushenski back then, the higher-end motors were expected to keep truckin' for decades
20:52 pete_dushenski as they evidently have
20:52 pete_dushenski of course, in the mid to late 90's, automakers figured out that all cars, regardless of upfront cost, should self-immolate after 10 years
20:53 pete_dushenski if not sooner
20:53 thestringpuller Ya. What's up with that?!?
20:53 pete_dushenski ideally, from their perspective, cars would crap out as soon as the warranty expired
20:53 pete_dushenski and have so many electrical gremlins that they'd be impossible to repair thereafter
20:53 thestringpuller it's like Jobs' ideas behind the iPod
20:53 thestringpuller warranty expires the day the battery dies
20:53 pete_dushenski carmakers have been getting better and better at this
20:53 pete_dushenski i think they're almost there
20:54 thestringpuller some cars seem to be holding their own against the trend.
20:54 pete_dushenski toyota, perhaps
20:55 thestringpuller ya, mah girl has a Camry from 94-95 or something almost 200k miles on it and it runs fine. Road trip worthy and all.
20:55 pete_dushenski but the increased homogeny between brands, a function of their sharing tier 1 and 2 suppliers, is hampering even the best of intentions
20:55 pete_dushenski thestringpuller: but that's a 20-year-old car now
20:56 thestringpuller pete_dushenski: yea but was crafted in mind 90's when the trend started
20:56 pete_dushenski this is also why recalls are spanning unprecented numbers of cars, and stretching across brands at the same time
20:56 pete_dushenski the japanese are slow
20:56 pete_dushenski their morality is different
20:56 pete_dushenski they have a culture of longevity
20:56 thestringpuller thestringpuller: is hampering even the best of intentions << this is why tesla was able to get through even with mafia style racket in place.
20:57 thestringpuller They are hedging on parts outlasting the warranty tho.
20:58 pete_dushenski tesla is an interesting case study in incentives
20:58 mats a reading of 'Consumer Reports' from some years ago suggests that cars are lasting longer...
20:58 pete_dushenski obama needed a poster child, and tesla has definitely been one of his success stories
20:58 thestringpuller ^- i kno rite
20:58 pete_dushenski the company is entirely dependent on government subsidies
20:58 thestringpuller i hate that tho. that there fame lies in that rather than just pure industry.
20:58 thestringpuller and also "welfare"
20:59 pete_dushenski consumer reports is "independent" but hardly impervious to cajoling
20:59 thestringpuller tesla's suppliers are definitely trying to reverse the quality trend
20:59 pete_dushenski the tesla model s couldn't have been anything other than "the best piece of engineering since apollo 11"
20:59 thestringpuller XD
20:59 thestringpuller such hyperbole
21:00 thestringpuller but like the modern Maybach i.e.
21:00 pete_dushenski thestringpuller: it's in the interest of the suppliers to ensure that they have business in the future
21:00 thestringpuller rap couldn't truly save the maybach, but it's one of those dream cars that actually fulfills the dream from my limited experience at least.
21:01 pete_dushenski the modernest of the maybachs is just an s-class trim line now
21:01 thestringpuller yah the most modern. i was speaking druing the infancy of maybach music
21:01 thestringpuller the maybach that picked up lil wayne from prison etc.
21:01 pete_dushenski the last one was bespoke, but a dud compared to the phantom
21:01 thestringpuller ^- this is why jeezy doesn't ride in maybachs
21:02 thestringpuller which is interesting
21:02 pete_dushenski ya i don't get the maybach at all
21:02 thestringpuller didn't know you were the channel car guy, but again guess I haven't done my reading
21:02 pete_dushenski maybe it's too arriviste for me
21:03 pete_dushenski lol i didn't exactly advertise it
21:03 pete_dushenski besides, onions are more interesting to hang out with ;)
21:03 thestringpuller well it's dope cause I love working on automotive machiens
21:03 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski> mp can't, gotta have twitter << twitter, this single shot rifle
21:03 mircea_popescu sorta like a broom
21:04 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: but you can ride brooms and play quidditch and stuff
21:04 pete_dushenski more like a mop, really
21:04 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: obligatory: http://www.krasnoyeznamya.ru/gallery/rm_21_489.jpg
21:04 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/15ywCas )
21:04 mircea_popescu mats> whoa, xanga. i haven't seen that name in almost a decade. << that azn chick still blogs on it.
21:04 pete_dushenski twitter: soggy, used mostly by intellectual janitors. yup, that'd be a mop
21:05 mats who?
21:05 BingoBoingo I live. Got hooked into judging at a college debate tournament this weekend for quick fiat and an anthropological study of the reddit derp in the physical world.
21:05 mircea_popescu asciilifeform quite lol
21:05 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo hey this was a shitty bender.
21:06 thestringpuller BingoBoingo: i totally forgot.
21:06 mircea_popescu bet pool was giving you like a week an shit
21:06 mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/1bec07183b67b4101135a2d13acd5a92/tumblr_nblgzjOuLg1tku1fwo1_1280.jpg << "now sit your ass down..."
21:06 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/15yxbBf )
21:07 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Only drank Friday night. Saturday night my loss of faith in the USian college leaders of the future pushed me into unassisted slumber.
21:07 mircea_popescu eh don't judge the kids too harshy
21:07 mircea_popescu they're virgins.
21:07 thestringpuller XD
21:07 mircea_popescu http://41.media.tumblr.com/bdb52bfba9b0b6f1fadb13ad57518626/tumblr_nblgyb5N0U1tku1fwo1_1280.jpg
21:07 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/15yxnR8 )
21:07 thestringpuller mircea_popescu is growing into the "nice grandpa" and not grumpy old man.
21:08 mats good one
21:08 mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/dbd560e399f2fcac62c14ed4d672bc22/tumblr_nbnan2prwQ1tj17cio1_1280.jpg << are these handcarved dogs ? or wts is that milling machine ?
21:08 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/15yxyvK )
21:09 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: toy car radio remote.
21:09 mircea_popescu ah k
21:09 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I actually got to hear it argued today that manned spaceflight is bad, because science is aligned against queer people and because science is aligned against queer people we should embrace human extinction.
21:09 BingoBoingo I did not get to judge that round, but the nihilist "won"
21:09 mircea_popescu did he win a .22 ?
21:10 asciilifeform !b 3
21:10 assbot Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/028NZSE.txt )
21:10 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Maybe if I had a ballot that round.
21:11 mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/05e18ad19e50e3bb3f6828669fc88e86/tumblr_nboxos3khZ1s3k2n4o2_500.jpg athlete tit.
21:11 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1zLAEd8 )
21:11 BingoBoingo On the plus side I also got to judge speech events, which meant I literally got to watch minstrel shows and liberals were ok with it.
21:12 BingoBoingo !up moldysnizz
21:12 * moldysnizz waves
21:13 moldysnizz I really need to dig out my old workstation for my other signing keys. It would be nice to be back on the WoT
21:13 BingoBoingo If I were drunk though I prolly would have IRC'd on the hostile campus wifi. I am so happy to have civilized internet again.
21:15 moldysnizz BingoBoingo, have yo had a chance to watch "The Rise and Rise of Bitcoin"?
21:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6586 @ 0.00050253 = 3.3097 BTC [-]
21:15 BingoBoingo moldysnizz: Nope, life is too short.
21:15 moldysnizz *chuckle* I rather enjoyed it.
21:17 BingoBoingo I might see it eventually. I am just so thrilled though that yesterday I got to watch actual minstrel shows performed for free.
21:17 moldysnizz =D How'd that come to be?
21:18 BingoBoingo moldysnizz: Just before you got here http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-01-2015#992298
21:18 assbot Logged on 26-01-2015 02:05:42; BingoBoingo: I live. Got hooked into judging at a college debate tournament this weekend for quick fiat and an anthropological study of the reddit derp in the physical world.
21:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22956 @ 0.00050596 = 11.6148 BTC [+]
21:22 moldysnizz oo fun!
21:22 moldysnizz flask?
21:22 pete_dushenski Anti-austerity Syriza party has won Greece's general election, putting the country on a possible collision course with the EU over its massive bailout.
21:23 pete_dushenski default time in the land of olive oil ?
21:23 BingoBoingo moldysnizz: If I did it again...
21:26 ben_vulpes wb BingoBoingo
21:27 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Howdy.
21:28 BingoBoingo Imma spend a few hours now reading trilema and listening to Lynyrd Skynyrd to get the liberal brainwashing out.
21:28 BingoBoingo !up gabriel_laddel
21:28 gabriel_laddel http://i.imgur.com/YDS7DZR.png http://i.imgur.com/er5HT6O.png http://i.imgur.com/nsvxhzs.png http://i.imgur.com/Ius6a3h.png
21:28 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/15yBJYf )
21:28 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/15yBL2r )
21:28 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/15yBKeP )
21:28 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/15yBLzs )
21:28 gabriel_laddel screenshots of programs that come with the #b-a distro by default.
21:28 ben_vulpes how've you been? what've you been doing?
21:29 gabriel_laddel I've been well enough. Working on the same project.
21:29 asciilifeform gabriel_laddel: macsyma ?
21:29 asciilifeform !s macsyma
21:29 assbot 3 results for 'macsyma' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=macsyma
21:29 gabriel_laddel asciilifeform: yep.
21:29 gabriel_laddel but with true3d plotting
21:29 ben_vulpes mlol i was talking to BingoBoingo, but same goes for you as well
21:29 ben_vulpes glad to see your distro in channel
21:29 gabriel_laddel ben_vulpes: lol thanks.
21:30 ben_vulpes care to talk a little more about this distro upon which you've been working?
21:30 BingoBoingo gabriel_laddel: We have a distro nao?
21:30 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Infiltrating IRL reddit.
21:30 gabriel_laddel BingoBoingo: I'm working on one, yes.
21:30 gabriel_laddel Built on top of funtoo
21:31 BingoBoingo gabriel_laddel: Must build on Vax.
21:31 gabriel_laddel ben_vulpes: I'll write something up now
21:31 ben_vulpes neat stuff
21:31 ben_vulpes !rate gabrial_laddel 1 not really new blood any more
21:31 assbot gabrial_laddel is not registered in WoT.
21:31 ben_vulpes !rate gabriel_laddel 1 not really new blood any more
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21:31 gabriel_laddel yeah I need to get on that.
21:32 ben_vulpes !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.gabriel_laddel.1:0fa2dead241f26026429deff8283cec0a1ab17b93ef5ece1fb5361eb7cfbe12a
21:32 assbot Successfully updated the rating for gabriel_laddel from 1 to 1 with note: not really new blood any more
21:32 ben_vulpes
21:32 ben_vulpes gabriel_laddel: still have those keys?
21:32 gabriel_laddel nope.
21:32 gabriel_laddel destroyed in a failed backup :/
21:33 ben_vulpes ah, sux.
21:33 ben_vulpes best time to plant a tree and all that
21:33 gabriel_laddel yep
21:33 gabriel_laddel though from a rating perspective, I don't think it matters if I wait until I release the distro
21:34 * ben_vulpes shrugs
21:34 ben_vulpes again, best time to plant a tree.
21:34 ben_vulpes no sense putting it off.
21:35 ben_vulpes victory goes not to those who are merely decisive of mind, but only to those who are also swift of action.
21:36 thestringpuller ^- Always in a rush to the grave.
21:36 thestringpuller "Stay awhile and listen" :)
21:38 BingoBoingo ;;later tell nubbins' https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=935115.msg10257245#msg10257245 << Why would a professional cabinet maker do it to "put himself through college"
21:38 assbot Videos of WoodCollector Hand Carving: Care of MOB ... ( http://bit.ly/15yDBAp )
21:38 gribble The operation succeeded.
21:39 ben_vulpes HAND GUIDED router << anyone who works with power shapers knows better than to hand guide a router
21:40 moldysnizz ugh
21:41 BingoBoingo Also... I smoke cigarettes a lot of places, but anywhere I'm generating a bunch of woodshavings is not that place.
21:42 punkman pete_dushenski: default time in the land of olive oil ? << that was years ago
21:43 pete_dushenski myea, well this'd be part infinity in that story
21:43 pete_dushenski i agree, no one particularly cares if greece goes the way of atlantis
21:43 punkman 50-60% voter turnout, all-time low
21:44 pete_dushenski we'll remember their contribution just as fondly
21:46 pete_dushenski off to a late dinner, chip chip cheerio and all that
21:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00050253 = 3.367 BTC [-]
21:52 punkman "Alexis Tsipras is a tin-pot communist. May his time in power be short and his actions easily revocable."
21:53 punkman oh man the spain-tards sure love this guy
21:59 BingoBoingo !up gabriel_laddel
22:00 gabriel_laddel I've actually done very little development for this dirtro. Most of my time has been spent finding perfect little individual peices and assembling them. Out of the box it has:
22:00 gabriel_laddel - documentation (current borked b/c of gentoo's USE flag problems - cyclic dependencies)
22:00 gabriel_laddel - Conkeror browser hooked up to parenscript.
22:00 gabriel_laddel - the best GUI library available on current architectures (CLIM - Commmon Lisp Interface Manager).
22:00 gabriel_laddel - millions LoC less than the browser, at least 10x more expressive.
22:00 gabriel_laddel - based on funtoo, sources for all programs are included by default.
22:00 gabriel_laddel - symbolic algebra via Maxima
22:00 gabriel_laddel - 3D plotting facilities (animation, zooming etc.) No gnuplot or browser hackery.
22:00 gabriel_laddel - state saving and restoration (currently broken)
22:00 gabriel_laddel - lesson system
22:00 gabriel_laddel - habit system
22:00 gabriel_laddel - dashboard that reports e.g., LoC for the entire system.
22:00 gabriel_laddel - js->ps transpiler (needs work)
22:00 gabriel_laddel The browser, window manager, gui library and emacs are all connected to the same common lisp process and are explorable at runtime. Conkeror is based on Emacs and shares some of the same conceptual foundation, thus, the whole experience feels very lispy. The lessons system is 'dialed-in'. For example, you can specify that the user is to scroll to 80% of a particular URL, at which point you want the windows arranged
22:00 gabriel_laddel 1/2 emacs 1/2 clim gui and XYZ files open with a (emacs) window arrangement just so.
22:00 gabriel_laddel The state saving facility allows for saving saving and restoration of all URLs, scroll locations, files and window arrangement on a whim. CLIM gui applications that obey the recommended architecture can also trivially plug into this system.
22:00 gabriel_laddel There are several other things that simply "make sense", but have somehow not found their way into mainstream linux. One of which is the dashboard. Currently it lists how many lisp LoC and projects are running on the entire machine. It also manages the habits system and allows for one to say, practice mathematics for 1 hours a day without fail, at which point it restores the state prior to starting the habit.
22:00 gabriel_laddel All state is saved via persistent CLOS by default.
22:01 gabriel_laddel no explicit transactions etc. necessary. Just `setf' the state of the object in question.
22:01 asciilifeform state saving and restoration << sbcl's 'save world and die' ?
22:02 gabriel_laddel asciilifeform: Nope. Though I should include that. The state saving is for files, window layouts, urls and their scroll locations.
22:03 gabriel_laddel asciilifeform: iirc that SBCL functionality needs some work before it is ready for production.
22:04 * BingoBoingo is sarcastic when says needs to build on VAX, prolly should though.
22:05 * BingoBoingo needs to get a working VAX
22:05 gabriel_laddel If anyone has requests for things they'd like to see in a dream distro. Let me know.
22:06 thestringpuller gabriel_laddel: A copy of SimCity 2000 built in.
22:08 ben_vulpes gabriel_laddel: systemd
22:08 ben_vulpes seriously though, sounds great. can't wait to give it a whirl.
22:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32056 @ 0.00050818 = 16.2902 BTC [+] {4}
22:09 asciilifeform what's a habit system ?
22:10 gabriel_laddel asciilifeform: say that you want to write a Captain's Log each day before going to sleep. Masamune formalizes this.
22:10 gabriel_laddel And adds to it, e.g., when you start your daily mathematics practice it will pull up the previous state from where you left off.
22:11 ben_vulpes is this a thing you wrote?
22:11 gabriel_laddel ben_vulpes: yes.
22:12 danielpbarron !up badbitcoinadmin
22:12 gabriel_laddel Oh, I should note - no systemd.
22:12 punkman badbitcoinadmin: did you steal all the coinz?
22:14 ben_vulpes i was just joking, gabriel_laddel
22:14 ben_vulpes but that's awesome
22:14 gabriel_laddel ben_vulpes: I realize that, but no systemd should be considered a feature IMO. One I forgot to list.
22:14 badbitcoinadmin punkman this is a role account for badbitcoin.org
22:15 badbitcoinadmin badbitcoin.org is a specialty site taht focuses on tracking various coin scams & those running them
22:15 asciilifeform lol! same 'badbitcoin' that was funded by gaw ?
22:15 BingoBoingo !b 2
22:16 assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1ZNPDC0.txt )
22:16 punkman oh so he did steal all the coinz
22:16 punkman badbitcoinadmin: are you in the wot? why "role account"?
22:16 * BingoBoingo is about to crash into sleep, someone else is going to have to take up !b sniping duties.
22:17 badbitcoinadmin This account squats & logs #badbitcoin
22:18 BingoBoingo So... what does account do here then?
22:18 punkman so you are gonna track all the HYIP scams that take bitcoin?
22:18 punkman why bother
22:24 badbitcoinadmin right now, this was first thing I found that was set up for Freenode
22:25 gabriel_laddel asciilifeform: do you know of any information about AMD Opteron's k8 microcode or the chip in question? I found http://www.securiteam.com/securityreviews/5FP0M1PDFO.html but nothing else on the matter. Also, do you know of a better place to ask this question? I'm not a haxx0r.
22:25 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9zk7w )
22:25 danielpbarron !gettrust badbitcoinadmin
22:25 assbot badbitcoinadmin is not registered in WoT.
22:26 asciilifeform gabriel_laddel: afaik, nothing has ever leaked re: the microcode structure. all that is known is how to invoke the updater, the approximate structure of the blob, and the fact that - unlike intel's - there is no crypto/authentication
22:27 asciilifeform gabriel_laddel: hence, one might learn something by trial and error (entirely possible to smoke the chip, sure.)
22:29 danielpbarron badbitcoinadmin, http://www.contravex.com/2014/09/23/please-to-pgp-guide-for-linux-os-x-windows/
22:29 assbot Please To PGP (Guide for Linux, OS X, Windows) | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9zSKw )
22:32 badbitcoinadmin I am familiar with PGP, but only have a few contacts who use it. What's next?
22:34 danielpbarron instructions on how to register your key with assbot and other commands are here -> http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot
22:34 assbot irc_bots:assbot [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9AwrE )
22:39 badbitcoinadmin OK, I see, some crypto hoops to jump through. Might not do it until tomorrow, looks straightforward enough.
22:40 decimation re: wikileaks << it's pretty lulzy that the 'staff' idiots were using third party mail providers anyway
22:46 punkman https://dolphin-emu.org/compat/ interesting
22:46 assbot Dolphin Emulator - Compatibility List - page # ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9Ckka )
22:48 * asciilifeform thought that this could have been an emulator for the xerox dolphin, very disappointed
22:48 punkman http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=25-01-2015#991865 > now you can emulate it too http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/4546
22:48 assbot Logged on 25-01-2015 19:42:05; ben_vulpes: i've seen windows 3.1 in javascript...
22:48 assbot The Emularity « ASCII by Jason Scott ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9CuIs )
22:49 asciilifeform punkman: the x86-in-js emulator is at least 2 years old, and is about as interesting as a full-sized replica of the eiffel tower made from toothpicks.
22:50 asciilifeform which is to say, you might admire the patience of the maker, but at the end of the day, the only question is - 'why?'
22:52 asciilifeform (what's a xerox 'dolphin' ? this: http://www.digibarn.com/friends/alanfreier/index.html )
22:52 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9CY1g )
22:53 mats ;;seen MisterE
22:53 gribble MisterE was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 41 weeks, 2 days, 10 hours, 39 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <MisterE> Deer Hunter was masterpiece
22:57 punkman asciilifeform: archive.org's has an impressive number of emulators that will work in browsers, I think that's nice
22:58 asciilifeform 'work'
22:59 mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/06f4ab072b398760c7812ba94ca49b15/tumblr_n9nqevnvIy1tvd51wo1_500.jpg "you sure you put the car keys in here ?!"
22:59 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9DGvl )
22:59 punkman of course the real hero is http://www.mess.org/
22:59 assbot Welcome to the MESS Wiki! [MESS] ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9DHzt )
22:59 punkman "supports 962 unique systems"
23:00 mircea_popescu <BingoBoingo> Imma spend a few hours now reading trilema and listening to Lynyrd Skynyrd to get the liberal brainwashing out. << i lollered.
23:00 asciilifeform the 'let's run complex proggies in the browser' thing is monumentally retarded. esp. in light of how it actually works in practice (e.g. js and its all-numerics-are-floats, etc)
23:00 punkman yeah I can't disagree with that
23:01 asciilifeform 'let's use machine whose architecture is in no sense standardized, with approx. the performance of a 486 dx-100'
23:01 mircea_popescu it's fun!!1
23:02 mircea_popescu standards are racist. the spec is the code. WE ARE BRINGING STUFF TO AFRICA
23:02 mircea_popescu economists agree. i have heard from entrepreneurs. we'll discuss it in san jose
23:02 mircea_popescu someone should make a gavin retardobot
23:03 asciilifeform when do we get africa brought to these folks.
23:03 thestringpuller ;;calc 5/12
23:03 gribble 0.416666666667
23:03 asciilifeform preferably maximally armed, demented africa
23:03 asciilifeform preferably - to san jose
23:03 mircea_popescu that's not really africa, we'll call it isis
23:03 mircea_popescu !up colonel32
23:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19414 @ 0.00052056 = 10.1062 BTC [+] {2}
23:07 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes: anyone who works with power shapers knows better than to hand guide a router << it was hand guided by a robotic hand.
23:07 punkman !up coderwill
23:07 coderwill thanks punkman
23:08 coderwill good evening/morning everyone :)
23:08 mircea_popescu http://www.poisonedminds.com/tests/dic/ btw
23:08 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JroS9B )
23:09 decimation gabriel_laddel: sounds like an interesting os, would be worth a spin
23:10 coderwill afternoon too, oops.
23:10 coderwill mircea_popescu: saw your reply RE: circle, yeah, it's almost like they want to be a venmo or square pay now or something
23:11 mircea_popescu they want to be whatever takes no work and provides no service.
23:11 mircea_popescu basically, they wish to be one of those vc scams where "it can't be proven they have no market share" and so... safe investment.
23:12 mircea_popescu gabriel_laddel you might have something there.
23:13 punkman mircea_popescu: which dic are you?
23:13 mircea_popescu i dunno it crapped out and gave me straight php code instead of executing it
23:13 mircea_popescu $temp) { $loadpage = "Stalin"; $temp = $Stalin;} if ($Blair > $temp) { $loadpage = "Blair"; $temp = $Blair;} if ($Hitler > $temp) { $loadpage = "Hitler"; $temp = $Hitler;} if ($Bush > $temp) { $loadpage = "Bush"; $temp = $Bush;} if ($Hussein > $temp) { $loadpage = "Hussein"; $temp = $Hussein;} if ($Omar > $temp) { $loadpage = "Omar"; $temp = $Omar;} if ($Castro > $temp) { $loadpage = "Castro"; $temp = $Castro;} if ($Ma
23:13 mircea_popescu o > $temp) { $loadpage = "Mao"; $temp = $Mao;} if ($Milosevic > $temp) { $loadpage = "Milosevic"; } include("http://www.poisonedminds.com/tests/dic/" . $loadpage . ".html"); ?>
23:14 mircea_popescu !up badbitcoinadmin
23:14 mircea_popescu what do you think a "role account" is ?
23:15 coderwill i wonder how they will monetize
23:16 mircea_popescu coderwill considering this is perhaps the 8th or 9th attempt, and all the previous ones monetized in the vessenes manner (whitewashing services for scammers)...
23:17 mircea_popescu http://38.media.tumblr.com/3431bae3b538ec058d5f5d44a8039ed9/tumblr_n9qtidqcvJ1s93wm2o1_400.gif << the princess of freshair
23:17 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jrq5hl )
23:17 punkman coderwill, so you work at blockchain.info?
23:18 coderwill no, i quit back in september
23:18 punkman ah smart move
23:18 coderwill ;)
23:18 mircea_popescu are they cutting back on personnel too /
23:19 coderwill i don't think so, it appears they are hiring after closing the round
23:20 punkman did employees get any equity?
23:20 coderwill no, not when i was there it was very strange
23:22 coderwill there were promises of equity but nothing official that i saw (other than verbal)
23:22 punkman !rate coderwill 1 for #b-a voice
23:22 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/17ba08908423ac1c
23:24 coderwill thanks
23:24 coderwill people may have some type of vesting now that they announced they had that 30 million raise, i don't know though
23:25 mats 20 to 30 inches of snow anticipated... wtf
23:25 coderwill it's snowmageddon :)
23:26 mats its hilarious that anyone wanted to pay so much as 1mn for blockchain.info
23:26 coderwill i heard it might be the most snow ever for new york city
23:26 mircea_popescu mats two feet in mass.
23:27 mats ya. 75mph gusts anticipated
23:27 mats o_O
23:27 mircea_popescu anyway, everyone was driving their fuel supplies down
23:28 mircea_popescu heating the nw may be problematic.
23:28 mats that reminds me, i should stock up on food and water
23:29 coderwill it's strange, we are having these crazy "polar vortexes" (last year) and now potentially record snow in new york, and earlier this year in buffalo
23:29 decimation re: earlier conversation on the 'need' to travel >> http://charltonteaching.blogspot.com/2011/09/travel-and-mind.html << " Warnie Lewis, a leading expert on Versailles, never visited Versailles."
23:29 assbot Bruce Charlton's Miscellany: Travel and the mind ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9H0Xw )
23:29 danielpbarron https://twitter.com/CBur36/status/559540033263136770
23:29 assbot So /McDonalds is goin to start accepting a random type currency soon.. I wonder it its /search?q=%24btc&src=ctag /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash
23:29 punkman balmy 15C here, no winter for me :P
23:30 punkman well I did get 0.1 inch of snow few weeks ago
23:30 coderwill i just saw a link the other day that at the same time, 2014 was the warmest year on record - also, something that in the last 10 years a ridiculous amount of warm weather records have been broken
23:30 mats g-g-global warming!
23:32 coderwill wild time to be alive no doubt
23:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16050 @ 0.00052308 = 8.3954 BTC [+] {3}
23:32 decimation www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2915061/Nasa-climate-scientists-said-2014-warmest-year-record-38-sure-right.html
23:33 decimation "As a result, GISS’s director Gavin Schmidt has now admitted Nasa thinks the likelihood that 2014 was the warmest year since 1880 is just 38 per cent. However, when asked by this newspaper whether he regretted that the news release did not mention this, he did not respond." < lol daily mail
23:33 coderwill interesting
23:33 mircea_popescu decimation "leading expert in english"
23:34 mircea_popescu punkman it's about 28 here.
23:34 mircea_popescu coderwill the "warmest year" bs is just that.
23:35 decimation even the AP published a retraction after the daily mail called them out http://bigstory.ap.org/article/d7375a310ef6475c9841accc756c4ba4/heat-noaa-nasa-say-2014-warmest-year-record
23:35 assbot Clarification: Hottest Year story ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9HP2r )
23:35 decimation "The story also reported that 2014 was the hottest year on record, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and NASA, but did not include the caveat that other recent years had average temperatures that were almost as high — and they all fall within a margin of error that lessens the certainty that any one of the years was the hottest."
23:35 decimation lol
23:35 punkman mircea_popescu: does BA ever get below 0C?
23:35 mircea_popescu punkman not in recorded history.
23:36 mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/b0d8476f67041da770a9fcf6567199c6/tumblr_n9fwbqHUdl1sifpsfo1_1280.jpg << hottest chick ever photographed.
23:36 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9HTiP )
23:36 mircea_popescu *note = other chicks photographed also hot ; exactly how hot is disputed.
23:37 decimation also, there's a large margin of error, but we are really sure that there's a trend here
23:39 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: any thoughts re: whether we want an upgrade mechanism in the toy node ?
23:39 decimation asciilifeform: gonna burn some fuses?
23:39 mircea_popescu specifically no.
23:39 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: that was my thought.
23:39 asciilifeform because guess who is certain to ask 'install upgrade plz'
23:40 mircea_popescu if there's some sort of hole put in deliberately,
23:40 mircea_popescu 90% of its utility/planned use is surrepetitious "upgrades"
23:40 asciilifeform we could conceivably 'tivoize' the thing
23:40 mircea_popescu person wants to upgrade, torch the box set up a new one.
23:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24600 @ 0.0005121 = 12.5977 BTC [-] {2}
23:40 mircea_popescu nah, let the owner be in control.
23:40 mircea_popescu but THE OWNER.
23:41 asciilifeform wasn't even thinking of remote upgrade, but local (insert image on stick)
23:41 coderwill speaking of BA, i like the work this design company puts out down there: https://aerolab.co/
23:41 assbot Aerolab - Design and Development for Startups and Leading Brands ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9IAZt )
23:44 decimation http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2015/january/25/adios-cuba/ << " Now, the lame duck Obama administration has finally figured out how to put an end to Cuba’s Communist system: human wave attacks by hordes of American tourists in loud golf wear yelling “USA, USA!” and waving Visa cards." "Cubans are not ready for loud, aggressive tourists shoving money in their faces. Nor are these easy-going islanders
23:44 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9J1CP )
23:44 decimation mentally prepared for tens of thousands of pushy New Yorkers (I’m also one) or overly emotional Miami Cubans who think they are returning royalty. Waves of carpetbaggers will pour in trying to buy everything that isn’t nailed down with their gringo dollars. Every Cuban exile sees himself as the next El Presidente."
23:46 coderwill mircea_popescu: re: warmest year stuff, yeah, not sold on it either, the weather does seem strange though
23:47 coderwill mircea_popescu: maybe just cylical on a timespan that's not being well perceived
23:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41350 @ 0.00050861 = 21.031 BTC [-] {2}
23:48 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the flip side of the medal is that these things are not the least bit difficult to reprogram. i can easily picture the phoundation distributing an 'upgrader' anyway
23:48 coderwill e.g. 10 years ago, hurricanes were everywhere in the gulf of mexico, now there are very few
23:49 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the most that can be done is to button it up so that replacing bootloader requires soldering on the missing uart pins
23:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00052478 = 2.3615 BTC [+]
23:52 hanbot asciilifeform: BingoBoingo, cazalla, mircea_popescu, qntra folks: http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/01/23/barrett-browns-prison-time-raises-cybersecurity-journalism-concerns << today this fella went off to jail. << yknow the article only mentions it in passing, but apparently the guy fucked around with an fbi agent. i'd wager the shit he's in has more to do with that than posting w/e link. how many others posted links or even hosted the
23:52 assbot Barrett Brown's Prison Time Raises Cybersecurity, Journalism Concerns - US News ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9JPaQ )
23:52 hanbot stuff themselves? and yet, he's the one in jail.
23:53 asciilifeform hanbot: for various reasons, brown was a good 'example to be made'
23:54 asciilifeform and yes, he is probably guilty of, among other things, insulting a loyal servant of the crown.
23:54 coderwill sheesh, that's pretty scary
23:55 asciilifeform probably even of 'lèse-majesté'.
23:56 hanbot i somehow doubt it's as much a piece of hay in the stack as all that. you piss someone off enough, they'll find what with to beat you.
23:57 hanbot i'm only surprised it wasn't another "child pornography" circus
23:58 asciilifeform can't use the same six words to hang every honest man.
23:58 asciilifeform gotta have some variety.
23:59 punkman good thing everyone's dumpingall their thoughts on twitter and facebook
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