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00:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3207 @ 0.00052122 = 1.6716 BTC [+]
00:17 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: You did indeed. THey plan on withdrawals... later
00:19 mircea_popescu ah
00:20 rithm withdrawals enabled after x balance amirite
00:20 rithm get that revenue first
00:21 rithm ok ok maybe withdrawals enabled never
00:21 BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/554870737350426624
00:21 assbot “/BBoingo: /benjammingh I use GPG, you suck a big bag of dicks. /thegrugq”< http://t.co/MnynJ1pjzW
00:21 rithm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT7xc_XqYO8
00:21 assbot Louis CK Suck a Bag of Dicks - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1DS7W97 )
00:22 BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/554871148442558464
00:22 assbot /marymad /BBoingo /benjammingh more dick that you can shake a stick at.
00:26 BingoBoingo https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=911394.msg10133759#msg10133759
00:26 assbot Did pools scare Satoshi away? ... ( http://bit.ly/1DS8Pia )
00:31 mircea_popescu oh yeah, that tidbit.
00:31 mircea_popescu "Bruce Wagner : When was the last time you chatted to satoshi <laugh>
00:31 mircea_popescu Gavin Andresen: Um... I haven't had email from satoshi in a couple months actually. The last email I sent him I actually told him I was going to talk at the CIA. So it's possible , that.... that may have um had something to with his deciding"
00:32 mircea_popescu i suppose the part where satoshi pretty much left because he couldn't believe just how fucking idiotic gavin is doesn't really make the cut of what reddit likes to discuss huh.
00:32 BingoBoingo Honestly probing satoshi's binaries. He started BTC with dumb ideas. Not implementing those dumb ideas and discouraging other people from the same was his legacy.
00:34 BingoBoingo The thing is... Agent Broachwala showing up at your doorstep won't make you persona non-grata, but cooperating with agent Broachwala will
00:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00050424 = 7.2106 BTC [-]
00:37 BingoBoingo !up TomServo
00:38 BingoBoingo So, in a tremendous blow for liberty Ohio State won the College football championship tonight.
00:39 TomServo Thanks BingoBoingo
00:39 BingoBoingo Yw
00:39 rithm BingoBoingo mizzou is doing a hell of a good job in the sec
00:39 BingoBoingo rithm: Thanks. My biggest surprise is they surrendered on orange ball.
00:39 rithm urban meyer is a ig phony though he left florida for "his family"
00:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00051122 = 3.4763 BTC [+]
00:40 rithm now he's off winngin championships in ohio
00:40 BingoBoingo Urban Meyer is legit. Just his flaw is convincing people Ohio is habitable.
00:40 BingoBoingo The20Year committed the same sin.
00:41 cazalla mircea_popescu, been around a long time so i doubt it, from what i read the customer support are just clueless and withdrawals are not enabled yet.. they're working on getting the money in, worry about letting people getting it out later lol
00:41 BingoBoingo Now, sure SEC west was overrated this year apparently, but SEC East was hella under rated
00:41 mircea_popescu cazalla they been arounbd a long time with no withdraws ?
00:41 mircea_popescu i never heard of em myself
00:42 cazalla cash withdraws ok afaik
00:42 cazalla just this bitcoin thing, not so much
00:42 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Fiat operation. Apprently they impolemented the wrong side first
00:42 mircea_popescu o
00:42 mircea_popescu oic
00:42 cazalla ACR was doyle's room from memory until poker ban and then doyle had his name scrubbed from it
00:42 mircea_popescu yaya
00:42 mircea_popescu now it clicked
00:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27450 @ 0.000501 = 13.7525 BTC [-] {2}
00:50 BingoBoingo !up felipelalli
00:50 BingoBoingo felipelalli: U got voice nao
00:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00051122 = 2.505 BTC [+]
00:52 felipelalli cex.io pausing mining: what do you guys think about it?
00:53 BingoBoingo felipelalli: Cex.io was very big at exactly the same time inputs.io was big. My feeling is that it was predatory the whole time.
00:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 4248 @ 0.00081155 = 3.4475 BTC [-] {22}
00:56 felipelalli thank you BingoBoingo. Are you guys going to write something about it in qntra.net?
00:58 BingoBoingo I have no immediate plans to write on that, but if CEX dies completely...
00:58 cazalla felipelalli, i did, i don't know enough about CEX to call it either way but fact network continues to grow without them raising some questions
00:58 tripleslash people still buying AM?
00:58 cazalla raises.. i mean
00:59 tripleslash cazalla, how long have they been suspended?
00:59 tripleslash a few days?
00:59 tripleslash its too early to say network is still growing.
00:59 cazalla announcement said they would suspend miners after the next diff change which was this morning
00:59 tripleslash right
00:59 tripleslash so until next diffchange, its impossible to say whether network is growing or shrinking
00:59 cazalla tripleslash, you would see it in hash rate eh?
00:59 tripleslash right now its all luck
01:00 tripleslash there's a reson difficulty isnt changed each block
01:00 tripleslash reason*
01:01 tripleslash joecool, everyone's favorite cool joe
01:01 tripleslash !up joecool
01:01 tripleslash !up tripleslash
01:02 cazalla tripleslash, yeah i know, i just don't really care enough about these guys to go chasing up the current hash rate and doing some math to figure out if a 12-24 hour drop is because they turned miners off or if no drop in hash rate proves they never had miners to begin with
01:02 tripleslash 12-24 hours isn't enough time
01:02 tripleslash you're missing the whole point
01:03 cazalla i don't think so but please, explain
01:03 tripleslash its impossible to conclusively say a drop/gain in network hash was attributable to them unless you know every other single source of mining and know the reported stats on them
01:03 tripleslash specifically in a 12 hour window
01:04 cazalla yeah i know there is nothing conclusive which is why i did not include anything about that in my article, i just included that they claim 300k users instead
01:04 tripleslash give it a diffchange, perhaps, but then you'd have to somehow figure out a way to exclude anyone else that might be dropping out because of the sagging exchange price
01:05 tripleslash 300k users means nothing
01:05 tripleslash a user might have 1khash of power
01:05 cazalla except they claim 40 petahash
01:06 tripleslash ok
01:06 cazalla are you a customer of theirs or something?
01:06 tripleslash so watch for a noticeable permanenent 40 petahash drop over the next few difffchanges
01:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6009 @ 0.00050022 = 3.0058 BTC [-]
01:06 tripleslash not at all
01:06 tripleslash I think they are a scam
01:06 tripleslash but that doesn't mean I'm ok with you using fuzzy math to justify it
01:06 BingoBoingo tripleslash: Do you know someone selling 40 PH/s of equipment...
01:06 cazalla i didn't use any math tripleslash
01:06 tripleslash lol BingoBoingo
01:07 tripleslash cazalla: no math? that's the only way you prove they've dropped off.
01:07 cazalla i specifically avoided it in the article because these fucks claim all sorts and i've better things to do than chase my own tail
01:07 * tripleslash sighs
01:07 BingoBoingo People who fell for Tradefortress and CEX.io have a strong overlap.
01:07 tripleslash haven't heard TF in a long time
01:07 BingoBoingo If... Someone can come forward with a lot of PH/s for sale... I can't say I am incapable of bidding.
01:08 tripleslash Anyone is capable of bidding...
01:08 BingoBoingo !up felipelalli
01:08 tripleslash doesn't mean their bid will amount to much.
01:08 cazalla perhaps they even have the hardware but instead of switching it off, they'll just continue to mine with hardware that customers paid for, who knows
01:08 tripleslash exactly
01:08 tripleslash but you certainly can't figure that out based on the number of blocks generated in the next 12 hours.
01:10 tripleslash I think they were skimming hash off their pool and reselling.
01:10 cazalla all i said was that it might raise some questions about whether what they claim is fact or lie
01:10 ben_vulpes hey i finally caught up to this morning
01:10 tripleslash Do I have any conclusive proof? no.
01:10 BingoBoingo ;;ident felipelalli
01:10 gribble Nick 'felipelalli', with hostmask 'felipelalli!~Thunderbi@201.82.158.149', is not identified.
01:10 cazalla i never claimed or stated it would be definitive
01:10 tripleslash as we all know, mining contracts have always sucked for the buyer.
01:11 tripleslash so why write articles based on no math and make no claims as to accuracy
01:11 tripleslash might as well write for the onion
01:11 felipelalli ;;eauth felipelalli
01:11 gribble Request successful for user felipelalli, hostmask felipelalli!~Thunderbi@201.82.158.149. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/4C0AFCCFED5CDE14
01:12 cazalla tripleslash, i didn't!
01:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11887 @ 0.00051319 = 6.1003 BTC [+] {2}
01:13 cazalla the article wasn't based on no math.. it was based on what cex said on their blog and their website and i finished it by saying that despite these cloud miners being fucked, the network goes on with or without them anyway
01:14 tripleslash I'm glad I didn't waste my time reading it then.
01:14 undata oh please
01:14 felipelalli ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:eaf2aaef1f3da52c021a173631aab57a159f9ba5fb9633c70bc5411f
01:14 gribble You are now authenticated for user felipelalli with key 4C0AFCCFED5CDE14
01:14 BingoBoingo tripleslash: If only you had the slightest idea who may ot may not be qntra's BitPay layoff source
01:15 felipelalli ;;ident felipelalli
01:15 gribble Nick 'felipelalli', with hostmask 'felipelalli!~Thunderbi@201.82.158.149', is identified as user 'felipelalli', with GPG key id 4C0AFCCFED5CDE14, key fingerprint 9E08524833CB3038FDE385C54C0AFCCFED5CDE14, and bitcoin address 1LipeR1AjHL6gwE7WQECW4a2H4tuqm768N
01:15 undata the article is mostly a quotation...
01:15 ben_vulpes "I wanted to spend my bitcoin immediately, that very night, but I was at a loss." << the fiat mindset's strong with these folk
01:16 BingoBoingo I am nigger man, chasing the prey through the bread fruit plants
01:16 cazalla undata, the cex portion really only served as a means to discuss the new difficulty all time high anyway
01:16 BingoBoingo ;;rate felipelalli 2 easy come easy go
01:16 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user felipelalli has been recorded.
01:16 undata cazalla: this guy just wants to yell at someone
01:16 cazalla undata, i want to yell at someone too so it works out
01:17 tripleslash BingoBoingo, I missed that. I've been away for a while, catching up.
01:18 felipelalli ;;rate BingoBoingo 2 very nice guy, received me very well, congratulations.
01:18 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user BingoBoingo has been recorded.
01:19 BingoBoingo imsaguy Are you harassing cazalla???
01:20 tripleslash nope. I was attempting to demonstrate why 12 hours isn't enough time to accurately measure hashrate, but apparently failed.
01:21 BingoBoingo tripleslash: Do you have any artistic talents?
01:21 tripleslash stumping for con artists was a past hobby of mine, although I didn't know it at the time.
01:21 cazalla tripleslash, i already agreed, merely pointed out it could be an indicator, one piece of the puzzle so to speak if one was inclined to dig further, which i am not
01:22 tripleslash 12 hours isn't really an indicator. its like flipping a coin one time to figure out if it is balanced.
01:22 ben_vulpes <mircea_popescu> a bum, like a total, street dwelling bum, accosts some random guy begging. and the random guy goes like "ain't got nothing now", and hands him his coke bottle. << ok so i've got this crazy pet notion about maté and viral load
01:23 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: If it counbteracts my model of ETOH and CYP load...
01:23 ben_vulpes CYP?
01:25 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: CYP 450 motherfucker
01:25 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: It is a toxic waste processing plant in your body... and you can't get rid of it.
01:25 ben_vulpes hm
01:25 ben_vulpes ah
01:25 ben_vulpes well
01:25 tripleslash :;rate BingoBoingo 1 ratings taint
01:26 ben_vulpes bb quick fork your ratingchain
01:26 ben_vulpes you can now double your ratecoins
01:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1964 @ 0.0005152 = 1.0119 BTC [+]
01:27 BingoBoingo ;;rate tripleslash 2 ratings fistula
01:27 gribble Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
01:27 BingoBoingo ).o
01:27 ben_vulpes (dun really think the two models would interact much, but also i don't know much microbio)
01:27 tripleslash ;;ident
01:27 gribble CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'tripleslash', with hostmask 'tripleslash!\\\@unaffiliated/imsaguy', is identified as user 'imsaguy', with GPG key id 7D7EA76776E6CE48, key fingerprint A1398F4C58AC3D387F012AFA7D7EA76776E6CE48, and bitcoin address 1Hf5qWZzd2WsrDwLhkykNc4uXPAkykg9PM
01:33 felipelalli Let me ask you guys a (stupid?) question: "hidden hash power" can be a problem? Suppose I start to invest in mining hardware but I do not turn on my machines. No one will know I am accumulating hash power. So, after a while, if I turn on all my machines I'd have - let's imagine - 80% of the hash rate. But it would be too late to revert the situation by the community. If big miners start to turn the machines off, they can not be hiding power?
01:33 felipelalli Makes sense?
01:34 BingoBoingo Maybe? The thing is an raw hashpower measure gets messy.
01:34 BingoBoingo As opposed to awesome like Messi
01:35 tripleslash felipelalli, if you were to say double the hashrate overnight, it would be hard for the "community" to counter it overnight.
01:35 tripleslash you'd essentially have a narrow window where you could have an easier time manipulating things, but the technicals of mining and others miners would catch up.
01:37 felipelalli nice to hear that, thank you!
01:37 tripleslash there are no absoluates
01:37 tripleslash absolutes
01:38 tripleslash you could have ~50% of the hashrate and still only find 10% of the blocks
01:38 tripleslash or you could have 10% of the hashrate and find 50% of the blocks.
01:38 tripleslash both, while improbable, are possible.
01:39 tripleslash !up felipelalli
01:39 tripleslash its all probability
01:44 BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/554891736695463936
01:44 assbot So /hashtag/Bitcoin?src=hash didn't work. Good work banks! We all will still work to end you, only now we have nothing to lose. Neat combination.
01:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7590 @ 0.00052518 = 3.9861 BTC [+] {2}
02:07 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
02:07 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 248.0, vol: 23822.55536478 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 243.188, vol: 20785.56201 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 247.29, vol: 70293.34335111 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 258.08, vol: 23.70575198 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 244.087225, vol: 133366.70640000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 250.001, vol: 83.00877437 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 254.5385, vol: 145.39958649 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message)
02:19 BingoBoingo http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/geography.png
02:19 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/14TNkRK )
02:29 BingoBoingo !up badon
02:30 BingoBoingo badon: Are you really losing atm measuring in iz???
02:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00051309 = 11.4932 BTC [-] {3}
02:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.00053461 = 3.2879 BTC [+] {2}
02:39 BingoBoingo !up jordandotdev
02:39 BingoBoingo !up JorgePasada
02:53 punkman god morgen
02:54 BingoBoingo Guuten Morgen
02:56 BingoBoingo !up nam-shub
02:59 badon BingoBoingo: Eh?
02:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17494 @ 0.0005412 = 9.4678 BTC [+]
02:59 badon Losing "atm"?
02:59 BingoBoingo badon: At the moment
03:01 punkman http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/bpa-alternative-disrupts-normal-brain-cell-growth-is-tied-to-hyperactivity-study-says/2015/01/12/a9ecc37e-9a7e-11e4-a7ee-526210d665b4_story.html?hpid=z5
03:01 assbot BPA alternative disrupts normal brain-cell growth, is tied to hyperactivity, study says - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1waCKft )
03:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2447 @ 0.00054122 = 1.3244 BTC [+] {2}
03:04 punkman http://samy.pl/keysweeper/ "KeySweeper is a stealthy Arduino-based device, camouflaged as a functioning USB wall charger, that wirelessly and passively sniffs, decrypts, logs and reports back (over GSM) all keystrokes from any Microsoft wireless keyboard in the vicinity."
03:04 assbot KeySweeper ... ( http://bit.ly/1waCVas )
03:06 BingoBoingo Punk you know that sounds a lot like HS rules
03:07 punkman HS?
03:07 BingoBoingo High school
03:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17180 @ 0.00054127 = 9.299 BTC [+]
03:11 punkman re: uranium http://www.collectorsweekly.com/articles/these-people-love-to-collect-radioactive-glass/
03:11 assbot These People Love to Collect Radioactive Glass. Are They Nuts? | Collectors Weekly ... ( http://bit.ly/1waDe5b )
03:11 punkman "Boyd’s used its 15-pound allotments (the maximum amount of uranium the company was allowed to keep on hand at any given moment)"
03:13 BingoBoingo punkman: When Uncle vince pisses tumors... Family matters
03:13 punkman I have a couple old, very slightly radioactive camera lenses
03:14 BingoBoingo Nothing hurts as bad as the follow up to that particulat cancer.
03:14 BingoBoingo '
03:15 BingoBoingo Ow. Stabbing the sides.
03:19 cazalla punkman: http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/bpa-alternative-disrupts-normal-brain-cell-growth-is-tied-to-hyperactivity-study-says/2015/01/12/a9ecc37e-9a7e-11e4-a7ee-526210d665b4_story.html?hpid=z5 <<< took me ages to find glass bottles for the missus to put her expressed milk into, everything is fucking plastic
03:19 assbot BPA alternative disrupts normal brain-cell growth, is tied to hyperactivity, study says - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1waCKft )
03:19 BingoBoingo Nigger.txt
03:21 punkman cazalla, but if it has the BPA FREE stamp it's all good!
03:22 cazalla never bought that line, worked on assumption if it's plastic, it is shit regardless of label
03:22 BingoBoingo People don't understand BPA makes me haet moar
03:23 cazalla don't forget to drink some water before bed BingoBoingo :)
03:23 cazalla you don't want to wake up feeling as i did a few days ago
03:23 BingoBoingo Nao, nevar.
03:24 * BingoBoingo must work for charlie
03:24 punkman cazalla, what's the baby bottle nipple made of?
03:25 cazalla silicone afaik, can't win em all eh
03:25 cazalla i tried to keep him on the titty but bugger bites down and makes missus cry
03:26 punkman good silicone should be okay
03:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3091 @ 0.00051927 = 1.6051 BTC [-]
03:31 BingoBoingo nam-shub: Let us regroup
03:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3093 @ 0.00054127 = 1.6741 BTC [+]
03:33 punkman http://deoxy.org/alephnull/nam-shub.htm
03:33 assbot The nam-shub of Enki ... ( http://bit.ly/1waE81s )
03:35 BingoBoingo punkman: You aren't desoxyn. Heisenburg persists without you
03:36 danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-01-2015#975268 << replys show up in the home feed of people who follow both of the users (the one replying and the one being replied to)
03:36 assbot Logged on 13-01-2015 03:41:56; BingoBoingo: cazalla: You need a period befor your @ replies so they are massively public
03:37 danielpbarron .@ is ugly, you should better just type out your whole response before the @
03:37 BingoBoingo Not always
03:38 cazalla it is so gay how the run things at twitter that i will not confirm just to get it to operate properly
03:38 cazalla fucking engrish..
03:38 danielpbarron .@ is a waste of a character (a scarce resource)
03:38 cazalla allow me to try that again... it is so gay how things are run over at twitter and i will not conform just to get it to operate properly
03:39 BingoBoingo cazalla danielpbarron You are indeed the gayest
03:39 cazalla BingoBoingo, you make more sense drunk than when i am sober
03:40 BingoBoingo Maybe you need to stop entertaining dude who wants to steal my butthole]
03:41 * BingoBoingo is no Charlie Shrem
03:42 BingoBoingo And no amount of facebook juice smooths this out.
03:44 BingoBoingo Death be most doomed
03:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16250 @ 0.0005466 = 8.8823 BTC [+] {3}
03:45 BingoBoingo Knuckles deep, no fingers decode...
03:45 BingoBoingo Du
03:45 BingoBoingo Du hast
03:46 BingoBoingo Du hast miche
03:46 cazalla get that human jukebox in here.. Vexual!
03:46 BingoBoingo !up vexual
03:46 BingoBoingo I
03:46 BingoBoingo I hate
03:46 BingoBoingo I hate angles
03:47 BingoBoingo I hate anglos
03:47 BingoBoingo I hate anglos
03:47 cazalla sunshine and lollipops
03:48 BingoBoingo Niugger
03:49 punkman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80Api9ox2vs
03:50 assbot Vinicio Capossela Marinai profeti e balene Pryntyl - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1waEQf6 )
03:50 BingoBoingo http://www.amta-il.org/_Library/Newsletters/AMTA-IL_Oct_2012.pdf
03:50 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1waEQMb )
03:51 BingoBoingo I am sads. Lynsie makes me more sads.
03:51 BingoBoingo Du hast miche
03:52 BingoBoingo In lynsie though I have cultivated the ultimate Germanic storm trooper.
03:52 * BingoBoingo sads
03:53 BingoBoingo Mostly though just fearing... niggers pretendign to righteous
03:54 BingoBoingo Du du hast, du has miche
03:55 BingoBoingo Who the hell is the anglo fuck who proposes neutral fucks?
03:57 BingoBoingo So much hate exists and only some nggers can shake it off
04:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 5000 @ 0.00080312 = 4.0156 BTC [-] {11}
04:01 BingoBoingo nIGGERS.TXT
04:04 punkman why so sads BB
04:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00054406 = 6.8008 BTC [-]
04:06 cazalla what's that pdf about BingoBoingo? you have carpal tunnel?
04:06 BingoBoingo punkman: Because vince HAD CANCER 4 TMES IN 3 YEARS
04:07 BingoBoingo irdial: i i HATE
04:07 BingoBoingo iRDIAL IS A NOOB
04:09 BingoBoingo aLL AROUND ME ARE FAMILIAR OLACES
04:09 cazalla don't be playing that one BingoBoingo
04:10 BingoBoingo WORN AOUT PLcedes
04:11 BingoBoingo Fucker punche dme in the throat
04:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8460 @ 0.00053473 = 4.5238 BTC [-] {2}
04:11 BingoBoingo Very... <ad Worold
04:11 BingoBoingo Nigger
04:11 BingoBoingo Mad World
04:12 BingoBoingo All these places wor out olaces
04:12 BingoBoingo !up irdial
04:17 BingoBoingo All around me are familiar places, worn out places, worn out places, a very... mad world
04:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4191 @ 0.00053457 = 2.2404 BTC [-]
04:25 scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/01/cointerra-goes-from-bad-to-worse/
04:27 BingoBoingo aLL US HELL, ALL IS DONE
04:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.0005296 = 4.7134 BTC [-]
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04:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7467 @ 0.0005296 = 3.9545 BTC [+]
05:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 4539 @ 0.00079915 = 3.6273 BTC [-] {14}
05:19 adlai thank you btce! error:140943FC:SSL routines:SSL3_READ_BYTES:sslv3 alert bad record mac
05:19 Naphex lol
05:20 Naphex that doesn't look good at all
05:20 Naphex either you get corrupted data on your connection, or you're being mitm'd
05:21 Naphex also SSLv3 should be disabled on all exchanges
05:21 punkman maybe some version mismatch
05:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17895 @ 0.00052826 = 9.4532 BTC [-]
05:21 Naphex the alert is a bad mac
05:21 Naphex so that means a packet sent, was mismatching its MAC
05:23 cazalla someone was spamming this in qntra comments.. tempted to approve https://twitter.com/MyAlexisTexas/
05:23 assbot Alexis Texas (@MyAlexisTexas) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1y8zrLf )
05:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10804 @ 0.00054913 = 5.9328 BTC [+] {2}
05:29 Naphex adlai: as far as I see, btc-e definitely has SSLv3 disabled. So if you got that message you're either being MITM'd and the trapper device is failing mac'ing messages, or who knows what. you shouldn't be receiving that error
05:30 adlai hm.
05:31 adlai i'm almost certainly being MITMed (who isn't?), and i'd be surprised if the men in the middle are shitty enough to leak it as protocol errors
05:31 Naphex oh trust me they are
05:31 punkman http://marc.info/?l=openssl-dev&m=108444932120941
05:31 assbot 'Re: OpenSSL error: sslv3 alert bad record mac (fwd)' - MARC ... ( http://bit.ly/1CcRi2R )
05:31 Naphex the trapping devices they usre are pure poop
05:32 * adlai is not using ossl though
05:33 Naphex https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=btc-e.com&s=141.101.121.194&latest
05:33 assbot Qualys SSL Labs - Projects / SSL Server Test / btc-e.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1CcS142 )
05:34 Naphex TLS 1.2Yes / TLS 1.1Yes / TLS 1.0Yes / SSL 3No / SSL 2No
05:34 adlai right. so this error means that somebody in the middle tried to downgrade our connection, and my ssl lib took a shit instead of complying?
05:35 Naphex the downgrade worked, but failed MAC'ing the messsages
05:36 adlai oh imatard, this library just wraps openssl.so
05:36 cazalla so someone is fucking with that hard fork missle crisis reddit link.. 1 comment, 3 upvotes? http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2s2utx/the_hard_fork_missile_crisis/
05:36 assbot The Hard Fork Missile Crisis : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1CcT8Rs )
05:36 davout bonjour
05:36 Naphex adlai, what i'd do i import the btc-e cert manually and remove other trusted sources
05:37 davout dat price
05:37 davout !t m x.eur
05:37 assbot [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.00438 / 0.00438888 / 0.00440745 (201 shares, 0.88 BTC), 7D: 0.00394588 / 0.00424875 / 0.00440745 (686 shares, 2.91 BTC), 30D: 0.00175233 / 0.0035976 / 0.00448833 (5898 shares, 21.22 BTC)
05:37 davout x.eur, 2015's best performing investment so far :D
05:46 adlai lol https://github.com/orthecreedence/cl-async/blob/master/src/ssl/tcp.lisp#L321
05:46 assbot cl-async/tcp.lisp at master · orthecreedence/cl-async · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1CcX6cI )
05:49 scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/01/bitcoin-org-blacklisted-in-russia/
05:59 cazalla mebe BingoBoingo had the right idea.. imma get liquoured up lol
06:03 fluffypony liquor up, stroke 'er down
06:03 davout cazalla: we need a !gotosleep in addition to !down
06:03 cazalla i'm only having one, no excess drinking tonight
06:17 cazalla 15m later, onto the third lol
06:17 cazalla but i swear that is it!
06:20 adlai what are we drinking tonight
06:21 cazalla the other bottle of whiskey
06:22 * adlai is earshot away from a bottle of red label
06:23 adlai it's half full and not really mine so it stays that way
06:23 cazalla well, i got a couple bottles of dimple 12y on special last week so polished one bottle off at the other nights drinking session and now i have this bottle but i'll stop after this one and go to bed
06:25 punkman beer, rusk and anchovies
06:25 punkman but maybe some more work first
06:27 punkman adlai: lol https://github.com/orthecreedence/cl-async/blob/master/src/ssl/tcp.lisp#L321 << win!
06:27 assbot cl-async/tcp.lisp at master · orthecreedence/cl-async · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1CcX6cI )
06:30 cazalla ermahgerd http://www.gamespot.com/articles/new-baldur-s-gate-game-in-development/1100-6424582/
06:30 assbot New Baldur's Gate Game In Development - GameSpot ... ( http://bit.ly/1y8QjBu )
06:36 davout cazalla: ho. ly.shit
06:37 davout "it's thinking about it and preparing by playing tabletop 5th edition Dungeons & Dragons game in the office." <<< hahahah
06:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.0005609 = 1.851 BTC [+]
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09:38 Bet placed: 2.5 BTC for No on "Russian Ruble to rally to 50 RUB or less per USD before Feb" http://bitbet.us/bet/1085/ Odds: 9(Y):91(N) by coin, 24(Y):76(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.2606717 BTC. Current weight: 23,898.
09:53 TomServo !up mircea_popescu
09:53 mircea_popescu hallo
09:53 TomServo Greetings
09:54 TomServo Should your lack of gribble use be seen as an indictment? :)
09:55 mircea_popescu just waiting for kako to put finishes touches on assbot wot.
10:06 davout http://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/2s8ryw/in_this_moment_of_loss_i_would_like_to_stand_in/
10:06 assbot In this moment of loss I would like to stand in solidarity with my people by saying "Je suis Karpeles". : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/17DLBSc )
10:06 mircea_popescu assclowns.
10:10 mircea_popescu tripleslash:so watch for a noticeable permanenent 40 petahash drop over the next few difffchanges << it's pretty noticeable they DIDN'T have 40 ph.
10:11 mircea_popescu yeah, there's a 15-25% ish chance by now they actually did and it's just being noised out. tough chance.
10:17 mircea_popescu felipelalli: Makes sense? << if one buys hw, one owns the hw. he can set it on fire or set it to mine scamcoins or w/e he wants. altcoins are perpetually in danger of being destroyed if they are not the largest consumer of hash on the planet, as visited in http://trilema.com/2014/the-woes-of-altcoin-or-why-there-is-no-such-thing-as-cryptocurrencies/
10:17 assbot The woes of Altcoin, or why there is no such thing as "cryptocurrencies" pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1IGVwSi )
10:17 mircea_popescu it doesn't matter WHAT the other, larger altcoin is. even if it is "nothing at all" : for as long as most miners are mining "nothing at all" then the altcoin Bitcoin is in danger of being stomped.
10:18 mircea_popescu that's why the article says the only stable solution is once 50%+ of the earth available energy is used to mine.
10:18 mircea_popescu this is a fact.
10:24 TomServo !up mircea_popescu
10:25 mircea_popescu tripleslash: you'd essentially have a narrow window where you could have an easier time manipulating things, but the technicals of mining and others miners would catch up. << "other mienrs will catch up" is so much nonsense. other miners are turning down their rigs as it is with the price today. if diff suddenly jumped 100%, "other miners" will give up and go home. which is why the other miners are not to be taken too
10:25 mircea_popescu seriously and why miners actually aren't given that much of a voice in bitcoin.
10:26 mircea_popescu bitcoin holders may put up more rigs to protect hteir holdings, and they may or may not also be miners, but that's coincidental.
10:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8414 @ 0.0005719 = 4.812 BTC [-]
10:29 mircea_popescu heh at that link. "replace bisphenol-a with bisphenol-s. be surprised that s stands for shittier."
10:29 mircea_popescu seriously who could have foreseen.
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10:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24836 @ 0.00056774 = 14.1004 BTC [-] {2}
10:52 mircea_popescu "Canellas wrote to defendant Warren, “Great job dude. We kicked ass! Time to get paid.” About ten minutes later, defendant Warren responded, “Hey man, I don’t know where you come up with some of this stuff, but you saved the day. It’s been a rough year but it’s been damn good. Nice work dude. Let’s get paid!” Canellas and defendant Warren then left the office to enjoy New Year’s Eve."
10:52 mircea_popescu these are, it should be noted, the ivy league's best and brigtest
10:53 mircea_popescu that's what they say, and they say it over plaintext channels held by their enemy.
10:53 mircea_popescu then people say that pirate roberts character was stupid.
10:54 mircea_popescu yes, he was. do you know who else is just as stupid ? oh... everyone in america ? the smartest lawyers and the smartest businessmen, graduating at the absolute top of the absolute best classes in the absolute best universities ?
10:54 mircea_popescu dudes in flip flops. "getting paid".
10:55 mod6 !up mircea_popescu
10:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00057234 = 6.353 BTC [+] {3}
10:56 mircea_popescu why thankee!
10:56 mod6 =)
10:56 mircea_popescu cazalla: never bought that line, worked on assumption if it's plastic, it is shit regardless of label << a wise man is you.
10:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00055829 = 4.4663 BTC [-]
11:06 mircea_popescu Naphex: oh trust me they are << he's right there.
11:09 mircea_popescu cazalla: so someone is fucking with that hard fork missle crisis reddit link.. 1 comment, 3 upvotes? <<< http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/duplicates/2s2utx/the_hard_fork_missile_crisis/ << seems reddit deleted the 500 votes / 300 comments thing in what's a doomed attempt to frame the issue as marginal.
11:09 assbot The Hard Fork Missile Crisis : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1wb1y6X )
11:10 mircea_popescu i dunno why they persist in thinking that it actually matters how it LOOKS, but hey.
11:14 mircea_popescu asciilifeform anyway, how's that for "unmask itself" ?
11:14 mircea_popescu "reddit will actually delete the vote count and comment count of popular threads if subversive."
11:14 mircea_popescu because it's, you know, "user driven" :D
11:19 thestringpuller all the comments are still there and stuff. And i'm sure bob alison still has his karma
11:19 thestringpuller confusing
11:19 xanthyos i guess 300 wasn't low enough a buy price
11:19 xanthyos jeez
11:20 xanthyos is this a test?
11:21 mircea_popescu thestringpuller nah, see, bob allison had put the thing in too,
11:21 mircea_popescu but there existed another insertion, same article, by a diff person
11:21 mircea_popescu that prolly got deleted
11:21 thestringpuller hmm.
11:21 mircea_popescu and the db just moved all the comments to the other, identically named, article.
11:21 thestringpuller whoa
11:21 thestringpuller sketchy as fuck
11:21 mircea_popescu so this is all unintended functioning.
11:22 mircea_popescu you shouldn't be able to read all that stuff, as far as reddit's concerned.
11:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00055829 = 3.0706 BTC [-]
11:32 danielpbarron !up mircea_popescu
11:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24004 @ 0.00057985 = 13.9187 BTC [+] {3}
11:33 xanthyos i now have 2.91 btc in my control and still don't feel super rich
11:34 kakobrekla should have got doge, doze trailing zeros make for that feeling.
11:34 xanthyos heh
11:41 thestringpuller $depth s.qntr
11:44 davout so much win https://twitter.com/catindesplage/status/554937788706328576
11:44 assbot Moi quand je me matte un petit boulard sur le trajet Paris-Chambery http://t.co/Qu0NQEHb6I
11:48 TomServo !up brendafdez
11:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00057021 = 5.36 BTC [-]
11:50 thestringpuller danielpbarron all my twitter notifications come from you. weird how it kinda does what it's supposed to.
11:50 thestringpuller I don't even tweet but I know shits going down when you do mention on me.
11:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8487 @ 0.00056687 = 4.811 BTC [-] {2}
11:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.0005597 = 7.444 BTC [-] {2}
12:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00058144 = 4.4771 BTC [+]
12:05 artifexd !up mircea_popescu
12:06 mircea_popescu yay!
12:06 mircea_popescu you know this voice shortage turns out to be kinda useful. thanks for teh love!
12:07 artifexd np
12:10 davout "you know this voice shortage turns out to be kinda useful" <<< remove mircea_popescu's +v when log.bitcoin-assets.com starts to be short on disk space :D
12:10 mircea_popescu lol
12:11 thestringpuller blacklisting web sites is eerily familiar to burning books
12:11 thestringpuller but far less effectivie
12:11 mircea_popescu no because disk space increases by gavin's law.
12:11 thestringpuller ^ yus
12:11 mircea_popescu thestringpuller BingoBoingo cazalla : http://trilema.com/2015/these-fools-have-been-handed-a-technology-so-clever-so-disruptive-and-revolutionary-that-the-rulers-of-the-world-would-have-to-fully-unmask-themselves-as-ruthless-tyrants-in-order-to-suppress-it/
12:11 assbot "These fools have been handed a technology so clever, so disruptive and revolutionary, that the rulers of the world would have to fully unmask themselves as ruthless tyrants in order to suppress it, — or give up their thrones on their own free will — if it were used correctly, that is." pe Trile ... ( http://bit.ly/1wb65X4 )
12:11 mircea_popescu and mebbe should be something about it on qntra ?
12:11 thestringpuller IN commentary?
12:11 thestringpuller I can start working on that.
12:12 mircea_popescu well hey, you're the one that got censured by reddit right ?
12:12 mircea_popescu read mah piece on the topic, write your own take, see what qntra editorial board policy is to react to censorship etc.
12:12 mircea_popescu big topic.
12:12 thestringpuller technically bob_allison (sp?)
12:12 mircea_popescu no.
12:12 thestringpuller was censored
12:12 mircea_popescu there was a different guy
12:12 thestringpuller oh
12:12 mircea_popescu bob allison introduced a duplicate
12:12 mircea_popescu either after or before i dun recall.
12:13 thestringpuller I recall bob_allison's submission having 100+ "karma"
12:13 mircea_popescu no, see. there were two reddit submissions, exact same title.
12:13 mircea_popescu the one that's missing had 100s of votes and like 300 comments
12:14 mircea_popescu the one that's still there, andwhich somehow displays thew comments made on the other one, never had more than a few votes
12:14 mircea_popescu and no comments.
12:16 scoopbot New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/these-fools-have-been-handed-a-technology-so-clever-so-disruptive-and-revolutionary-that-the-rulers-of-the-world-would-have-to-fully-unmask-themselves-as-ruthless-tyrants-in-order-to-suppress-it/
12:16 thestringpuller yea mods must be meddling somehow with admins
12:16 thestringpuller they somehow got derptopolus unshadow banned
12:17 mircea_popescu "user driven"
12:17 mircea_popescu just as long as user = our house muppets.
12:20 mircea_popescu anyway, by the time they're resorting to such things, they're clearly desperate. the matter must be pressed relentlessly.
12:20 thestringpuller an old high school buddy of mine once said to me, "Some of the worst things in history have occurred when too many are in one place at once"
12:20 thestringpuller it was originally in context of ignition of WWI
12:20 thestringpuller but reddit seems to follow pattern
12:20 mircea_popescu woodstock worked out okay...
12:21 thestringpuller didn't someone die at woodstock?
12:21 thestringpuller and someone recently died at burning man
12:21 TomServo heh, not the sequel
12:22 mircea_popescu well, plenty of people died and a buncha women got raped and a bunch more kids were born out of it.
12:22 mircea_popescu sounds quite liek humanity in action.
12:22 thestringpuller i guess his point was too many idiots in one place means statistically someone is bound to do something stupid
12:23 thestringpuller "Mircea got banned from twitter because he was threatening to kill Andreas Antonopoulos" << LOL
12:25 hanbot mircea_popescu perhaps i'm reading poorly, but not sure i grok the foreboding re choosing life: "But if you choose "life", remember one important point from Shrem's misadventure :" --if the dead are the old reptiles a la newhouse, clinging to relevancy, wouldn't choosing life be the sane, independent choice?
12:26 mircea_popescu hanbot the monologue in question is, "Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose a three-piece su
12:26 mircea_popescu it on hire purchase in a range of fucking fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pissing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourselves.
12:26 mircea_popescu Choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life."
12:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20251 @ 0.00056765 = 11.4955 BTC [-] {2}
12:28 hanbot aha, i see. those are some highly meaningful quotation marks, around "life" then.
12:28 mircea_popescu aye.
12:29 mircea_popescu mentioning renton in there not sufficient hm ?
12:29 hanbot well, ought to be for someone more alert than i
12:31 mircea_popescu anyway. there IS going to be a transfer of power, and all the bs "let's ban mp on twitter because he stands for priviledge and against our impotent, nonsensical brand of socialism", "let's delete reddit articles because they humiliate our houseboys" etc won't do jack shit.
12:32 mircea_popescu twitter, reddit and the rest of the social media crapolade aren't powerful enough. they work, for as long as they suck my cock. otherwise... they're about as useful as homework, who the fuck wants to bother themselves in a playpen designed by adults for "safety".
12:32 mircea_popescu life's not there.
12:33 mircea_popescu there is going to be a transfer of power, and the only thing demuring can possibly accomplish is make it bloody. which i don't mind, because old people are too old as it is. even them out a little.
12:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18598 @ 0.00058144 = 10.8136 BTC [+]
12:41 thestringpuller Lol. "Stop being poor."
12:41 thestringpuller "Unless that's what you want, who am I to tell you how to live your life."
12:48 ben_vulpes guten morgen
12:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00058351 = 10.6782 BTC [+] {3}
12:53 ben_vulpes whoa reddit actually deleted the missile crisis thread?
12:53 ben_vulpes ;;ticker
12:53 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 230.37, Best ask: 230.93, Bid-ask spread: 0.56000, Last trade: 230.41, 24 hour volume: 45755.02935209, 24 hour low: 216.0, 24 hour high: 272.43, 24 hour vwap: 0
12:53 ben_vulpes two thirty!
12:53 ben_vulpes wowee.
12:56 ben_vulpes <thestringpuller> [] and someone recently died at burning man << every year, actually.
12:56 ben_vulpes "it's a tragedy!" "no, there are 80K drug-addled party monsters running around in the desert around giant machines built with nary much of a care for safety. it's amazing the mortality rate's that low"
12:56 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
12:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19100 @ 0.00058602 = 11.193 BTC [+] {3}
13:00 asciilifeform !up mircea_popescu
13:01 mircea_popescu why ty
13:01 asciilifeform afaik, reddit 'losing' threads is a very uncommon thing. whereas 'hackernews' - sop. this is because reddit follows the american philosophy of 'censorship by shitburial by the megatonne' rather than straight excision.
13:02 asciilifeform 'hackernews' is more 'soviet' in the low-volume / active 'gardeners' running their fingers through the bag in search of undesirables - sense.
13:02 mircea_popescu apparently in this case shit burial wasn't deemd good enough.
13:02 mircea_popescu which is a pity, it was amusing me watching them try.
13:04 mircea_popescu anyway, i'm curious what the gossipd "counter" strategy is going to be. 've not had the pleasure of finding anything yet.
13:04 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: that is, the lizard answer to it?
13:04 mircea_popescu right.
13:05 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: will depend on how good of a job you & artifexd do, no ?
13:05 mircea_popescu lizard empire very large, very porous, generally i get the good bits before they fully propagated even.
13:05 mircea_popescu well, if something holds itself to be a power, it'd really have to be independent, n'est pas ?
13:07 mircea_popescu <ben_vulpes> " it's amazing the mortality rate's that low" << im still wondering at the following social engineering feat :
13:07 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
13:07 mircea_popescu how the fuck do they manage to keep fireworks off the grounds ?
13:07 mircea_popescu i get it, fireworks = redneck, bla bla.
13:07 ben_vulpes they don't, really.
13:07 mircea_popescu nevertheless.... whoa nelly. THAT is engineering.
13:08 mircea_popescu if they didn't there'd be 3-5% casualty rates each year
13:08 mircea_popescu they somehow do.
13:08 ben_vulpes are you familiar with the "leave no trace" paradigm?
13:08 mircea_popescu aha
13:08 asciilifeform lizardgoering probably reviewed gossipd and answered, 'mein fuhrer, it's yet another pgp isomorph.' hitler: 'directorate 7b. next.'
13:08 ben_vulpes 3-5% << looool
13:08 ben_vulpes dude you clearly have no idea how weak american fireworks are
13:08 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes drunk idiots and gunpowder. i stand by it.
13:08 ben_vulpes maybe an eye or a finger here or there.
13:09 mircea_popescu no no, listen, i mean my words. fireworks. that the stuff available isn't fireworks, that's fine. still social engineering
13:09 mircea_popescu still impressive.
13:09 ben_vulpes oh, actual fireworks.
13:09 ben_vulpes well, a) they're hard to get
13:09 ben_vulpes b) not really in the spirit of the party - messy, dangerous to bystanders
13:09 ben_vulpes i'd suggest you consider the immense feat of reigning in the firearm use.
13:09 ben_vulpes ever heard of the "drive by shooting gallery"?
13:10 mircea_popescu "Protect riparian areas by camping at least 200 feet from lakes and streams.
13:10 mircea_popescu Good campsites are found, not made. Altering a site is not necessary." roflmao.
13:10 mircea_popescu <ben_vulpes> b) not really in the spirit of the party <<< THIS.
13:10 mircea_popescu do you understand the breathtakingly astounding achievement to get a bunch of teenaged idiots on drugs think "it's not in the spirit" ?>
13:10 mircea_popescu it's larger than the golden gate.
13:10 ben_vulpes once upon a time you could bring a truck-mounted m16
13:10 ben_vulpes now you can't even bring the truck.
13:11 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: it's a pretty wacky thing
13:11 ben_vulpes great party.
13:11 asciilifeform truck-mounted m16 << lol!
13:11 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i actually recall this was a thing
13:12 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: poor man's 'тачанка' ?
13:12 mircea_popescu kinda ya
13:12 mircea_popescu "Never feed animals. Feeding wildlife damages their health, alters natural behaviors, and exposes them to predators and other dangers."
13:12 mircea_popescu "your food is bad for animals, pleb"
13:12 mircea_popescu somehow nobody reads that in there.
13:12 mircea_popescu "we wouldn't feed the shit you eat to fucking wild hogs already!"
13:14 mircea_popescu totally unrelated : if anyone's looking for "independent escort/in a perfect world, someday i will meet a kinky geeky creature and gravidophiliac with a penchant for ANR"... > http://www.collarspace.com/actiasluna
13:14 assbot hi there.in the spirit of full disclosure, i like to start with the things people are like ... ( http://bit.ly/1yg5tn7 )
13:14 mircea_popescu may you and all her bfs be happy together.
13:14 asciilifeform gravidophiliac ?!
13:14 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it's common for women to enjoy being pregnant.
13:15 mircea_popescu (anr = "adult nursing relationship", aka http://trilema.com/2010/alaptarium/ )
13:15 assbot Alaptarium pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1yg5KXf )
13:15 asciilifeform well-kept secret ?
13:15 mircea_popescu nope ?
13:16 mircea_popescu ;;google caritas romana
13:16 gribble Roman Charity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Charity>; Roman Love / Caritas Romana — The Theological Anthropology Blog: <http://theologicalanthropology.com/alphabet-of-love/2013/11/7/roman-love-caritas-romana>; Caritas Romana - KMSKA: <http://www.kmska.be/en/collectie/highlights/CimonenPero.html>
13:17 asciilifeform http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/vospit/16330949/3659/3659_original.jpg (re: earlier thread, 'тачанка' - chariot used in ru civil war)
13:17 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1yg6c7O )
13:17 asciilifeform for n00bs
13:21 mircea_popescu new baldur's gate eh ?
13:22 asciilifeform lol
13:22 mircea_popescu so now that bitcoin.org is banned in russia, the real foundation is actually the only legal resource in bitcoin as far asthey're concerned ?
13:22 mircea_popescu aww.
13:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00058682 = 10.152 BTC [+]
13:24 ben_vulpes here's to thebitcoin.foundation
13:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 148297 @ 0.00055454 = 82.2366 BTC [-] {13}
13:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51703 @ 0.0005281 = 27.3044 BTC [-] {3}
13:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89745 @ 0.00052381 = 47.0093 BTC [-] {8}
13:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27300 @ 0.00050928 = 13.9033 BTC [-]
13:31 davout !up mircea_popescu
13:32 mircea_popescu :)
13:32 mircea_popescu thanks. i'll be off for a bit tho.
13:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24250 @ 0.00049583 = 12.0239 BTC [-] {2}
13:37 Bet created: "Bitcoin to top 360$ before Feb" http://bitbet.us/bet/1102/
13:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7561 @ 0.0005 = 3.7805 BTC [+]
13:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15250 @ 0.0004941 = 7.535 BTC [-] {2}
13:40 Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to top 360$ before Feb" http://bitbet.us/bet/1102/ Odds: 2(Y):98(N) by coin, 2(Y):98(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,982.
13:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24300 @ 0.0004933 = 11.9872 BTC [-]
13:45 Bet created: "Bitcoin to drop under 170$ before March" http://bitbet.us/bet/1103/
13:51 Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under 170$ before March" http://bitbet.us/bet/1103/ Odds: 95(Y):5(N) by coin, 95(Y):5(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,987.
13:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 198 @ 0.0064201 = 1.2712 BTC [-] {7}
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14:19 ben_vulpes is a gpg signature topologically the same as encrypting to the public key?
14:26 danielpbarron i think it's like decrypting a plaintext with the private key
14:32 ben_vulpes something something digest something
14:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13250 @ 0.00049803 = 6.5989 BTC [+] {2}
14:36 thestringpuller something something complete
14:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16200 @ 0.0005 = 8.1 BTC [+]
14:50 mircea_popescu http://chicago.suntimes.com/neil-steinberg/7/71/263973/home-of-the-unbrave no sledding for you lmao
14:50 assbot Home of the unbrave | Chicago ... ( http://bit.ly/1BkF0aq )
14:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00049301 = 1.972 BTC [-] {2}
14:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.0005 = 3.9 BTC [+]
15:01 Elian11 Hi
15:02 Elian11 Euros seem cheap these days, no?
15:02 mircea_popescu kinda
15:02 Elian11 I'm on a trip, and i think most things are a bargan at that rate
15:03 kakobrekla yeah almost 1:1 for the dollar.
15:03 Elian11 (except stuff on the ferry in/around airport, etc)
15:05 Elian11 Who is in the states? Would you minde tell about the cost of a sandwitch and what you like to eat?
15:05 Elian11 (in between slices of bread)
15:08 mircea_popescu o.O
15:09 thestringpuller good sandwich is like 6 bucks?
15:09 thestringpuller maybe 7?
15:10 Elian11 and what kind of sandwich do you like to eat thestringpuller ?
15:18 thestringpuller depends
15:19 thestringpuller chicken tender sub is about 8 bucks
15:19 Elian11 Where at?
15:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00049237 = 4.9729 BTC [-]
15:20 asciilifeform Jan 12 13:56:09 * qntranet (452ee56a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.46.229.106) has joined #bitcoin-assets
15:20 asciilifeform Jan 12 13:57:57 * qntranet is now known as bitcoin_charlie
15:20 asciilifeform achtung mircea_popescu
15:21 mircea_popescu wut ?
15:21 asciilifeform above.
15:22 thestringpuller Elian11: publix for the mediocre versions. but i'll go to higher scale grocery stores
15:22 Elian11 ne way, my favourite sandwitch is a BLT. Some clown in the USA tried to charge me 7USD for one once. I almost smacked hin upside the head for that.
15:22 Elian11 publix? are u in Florida?
15:22 mircea_popescu asciilifeform no but i mean so... ?
15:22 asciilifeform aha finally figured out why. nm
15:23 asciilifeform ('contact' link on qntra.)
15:23 mircea_popescu right.
15:23 asciilifeform lol
15:23 mircea_popescu iu think it's said in the logs too.
15:23 * asciilifeform not alert reader.
15:23 mircea_popescu Elian11 i dun get it, how much should it cost ?
15:24 Elian11 hmm, the BLT is tangent unrelated to ongoing anecdotal buying power calculation.
15:24 Elian11 But,
15:24 Elian11 what can i say i like BLT
15:25 mircea_popescu i don't think anything i eat is standard enough for such procedures.
15:25 Elian11 BLT is the simplest sandwitch it should not be more than 5, and that is with chips
15:25 mircea_popescu what's wrongwith just going by gas, rents and blowjobs, like normal people ?
15:25 Elian11 its basically a condiment sandwitch
15:27 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2012/how-to-sandwich-like-a-badass/
15:27 assbot How to sandwich like a badass pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1IHIbcC )
15:27 cazalla thestringpuller, did you manage to get that article done on reddit while i was zzz?
15:28 Elian11 No, imo sandwitch is an excellent measure because of the diversity of ingredients and other costs aggregated
15:29 mircea_popescu what if i like salmon paste on my blt ?
15:29 Elian11 Rend for the store, wage for the cook, bread baker, etc
15:29 Elian11 What would you drink with that?
15:30 mircea_popescu depends. milk, generally. orange juice (freshly squeezed)
15:31 Elian11 ahh, i can try to get something like that tomorrow to compare cost
15:32 Elian11 is unpasteurized milke significantly more valuable than pasteurized ?
15:32 mircea_popescu you'll prolly have to get it with the slavegirl au paquet, cuz i dunno anyone makes such comercially.
15:32 mircea_popescu not really, unless by pasteurized you mean uht'd, which tastes like shit.
15:32 thestringpuller cazalla: will be your afternoon/evening
15:33 Elian11 ?dict uht'd
15:33 cazalla on account of it being your article, would be rude of me to scoop you while you're working :)
15:34 thestringpuller yea being knee deep in ruby, which is like wading around in horse poop at times
15:42 mircea_popescu RED! red horse poop!
15:42 mircea_popescu Elian11 ultra high temperature, an application of radioactivity to make milk shelf stable.
15:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13850 @ 0.0005 = 6.925 BTC [+]
15:44 Elian11 yikes, that would make the milk worthless to me
15:46 mircea_popescu generally that's what comes in those tetrapak cartons
15:47 cazalla 50/50 on publishing trollish comments but then where do you draw the line? http://qntra.net/2015/01/the-hard-fork-missile-crisis/#comment-7168
15:47 assbot The Hard Fork Missile Crisis | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1IHLBw3 )
15:47 Adlai asswot is my new best friend. i come in here, head brimming with stupid, dribble it out all over the channel. then by the time i'm authed i realize none of it is worth repeating.
15:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18958 @ 0.0005 = 9.479 BTC [+]
15:48 Elian11 the only thing is... i kinda like Yahoo chocolate milk
15:48 Elian11 but i know its bad
15:49 mircea_popescu cazalla imo as long as the comment was made by human as opposedto machine, it should be published.
15:49 mircea_popescu doesn't matter what it says.
15:50 mircea_popescu Adlai lmao
15:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.0005 = 5.15 BTC [+]
15:51 * Adlai met not one but TWO people who'd never heard of bitcoin before
15:51 mircea_popescu o.O
15:52 cazalla yeah, that's what we've done so far
15:52 Adlai nice thing about being so close to roofing the all-time maximum drawdown is that it makes you focus on things other than price when explaining bitcoin from scratch
15:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 249 @ 0.11104614 = 27.6505 BTC [+] {8}
15:53 mircea_popescu as it should be.
15:54 Adlai one was all "this is interesting but computers are not my thing", the other said she'd tell her son to read about it, because he "once tried to explain algorithms to me"
15:54 mircea_popescu lol
15:54 mircea_popescu i dun get why you think either conversation's at all productive ?
15:55 mircea_popescu i don't go about bothering random folk about sumerian tablets, fascinating as they may be ?
15:55 Adlai well i was thinking about this afterwards, wondering what the use of spending ~15 minutes explaining a technology to people who made every indication of not being its target audience
15:55 mircea_popescu seems that much adolescent dweebery.
15:56 Adlai it's still important, though. at least, more important than discussing whatever polite smalltalk we could have made otherwise
15:56 mircea_popescu if you're doing this, why not explain dungeons & dragons to random people ?
15:56 mircea_popescu of course it's important. everything they don't know is important.
15:56 mircea_popescu why aren't you explaining supreme court practice to them ?
15:56 Adlai because the populace doesn't care that nerds play D&D in their basement, they don't think it finances terrorism
15:56 mircea_popescu and if they did ?
15:56 Adlai but both of these folks now have a very very positive *initial* impression of bitcoin
15:56 mircea_popescu for that matter, "violence in videogames" is EXACTLY That.
15:56 mircea_popescu thinking they finance terrorism.
15:57 mircea_popescu because to the common imbecile, all things are one thing and that's that.
15:57 Adlai "you never get a second chance to make a first impression" is true for bitcoin as well, only bitcoin doesn't get to pick how to present itself
15:57 mircea_popescu uh.
15:57 Adlai so these are two fewer people who hear about bitcoin for the first time in some cable news screed
15:57 mircea_popescu so ?
15:57 mircea_popescu you act as if the responsibility for idiocy is on the thing.
15:57 Adlai on what thing?
15:57 mircea_popescu let them figure it out, eh ? if the 'first impression' is wrong, it's the impressee not the impressor that has to change.
15:57 Adlai oh sure
15:58 mircea_popescu so then.
15:58 Adlai i was also forced into this conversation initially, my free choice was just continuing it rather than changing subject
15:58 * Adlai was pouring drinks for guests, dad says "he's practicing his bartending in case bitcoin goes to zero"
15:58 mircea_popescu i mean whatever, gotta talk about something,
15:58 mircea_popescu lol i hope you bitchslapped him
15:59 mircea_popescu "for all the effort he's spent with me, i'd be pouring drinks if it weren't for my own work"
15:59 mircea_popescu dad wants to play, let dad have it.
15:59 Elian11 wow lol
15:59 mircea_popescu doh.
16:00 Adlai eh it was in good humor dunno
16:00 Adlai and it brought up the subject
16:00 mircea_popescu well you're never going to explain bitcoin from a dismissive position like that.
16:00 Adlai i'd rather explain derive bitcoin with strangers than discuss the weather
16:00 mircea_popescu seems there's other points to address first. but then again, im an asshole.
16:01 Elian11 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_creation_myth
16:01 assbot Sumerian creation myth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1IHOdd6 )
16:01 Adlai "derive" is important... a great way to introduce bitcoin to people is just to explain the problems and solve them together
16:01 mircea_popescu Adlai well then you need a simplified model.
16:01 mircea_popescu you'll notice discussions of the weather proceed socially on a simplified model.
16:02 Adlai right, we started as apples as money, then moved to coins, paper, digital fiat, cleared digital cash, bitcoin.
16:02 mircea_popescu the simplified model i'd readily think of being something more akin to "well currently, you people have some sort of control, based on contracts and fiat currency and so on. what we kids are doing is making an entirely new system of control, where you will be entirely powerless.
16:03 mircea_popescu apple as money strikes me as rank nonsense, but ymmv
16:03 Adlai both these people were painfully aware of their powerlessness
16:03 mircea_popescu so then. maybe they should look into it.
16:04 Adlai in the sense that we kept running into stuff like "well are you familiar with the concept of a hash? ok, so a hash is..."
16:04 mircea_popescu "we're powerless already in teh old system... mebbe this new thing worth a look ?"
16:04 Adlai oh they probably do fine in the old system, the powerlessness which they sense is in the digital domain
16:04 mircea_popescu Adlai why would you introduce a specific concept if you're not willing to introduce it rigurously ?
16:04 Adlai which concept?
16:04 mircea_popescu hash.
16:05 Adlai btw in the defense of apples - apples are a simpler value store than coins, because they're directly useful - you can eat them if you're hungry, and you can be pretty sure that other people like to eat them too
16:05 Adlai you can verify their quality visually, no holes / mould - it's a good apple
16:05 mircea_popescu but apples are nonsense as they never were value store.
16:05 Adlai exactly
16:05 Adlai they spoil
16:06 Adlai this rules out food as money
16:06 Adlai except for honey
16:06 mircea_popescu ...
16:06 Adlai honey money.
16:06 mircea_popescu or grain. or you just lost it.
16:06 Adlai grain goes bad
16:06 mircea_popescu there's 3k yo grain in egeept.
16:06 Adlai we should just make coins out of crystallized honey
16:06 mircea_popescu why not crystal sugar.
16:07 thestringpuller ;;ud we major
16:07 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=we+major | we major isn't defined. Can you define it? Meaning ... Emails are sent from daily @urbandictionary.com. We'll never spam you. Questions? Feedback? powered ...
16:07 thestringpuller boo
16:08 mircea_popescu the only thing i like about honey as money is that it gives kids botulism.
16:08 mircea_popescu some limit on universalizing money is better than none.
16:09 Adlai don't we get the ability to break down botulin very early on?
16:09 mircea_popescu nope.
16:09 davout thestringpuller: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-01-2015#976147 <<< you'll develop the taste
16:09 assbot Logged on 13-01-2015 20:34:50; thestringpuller: yea being knee deep in ruby, which is like wading around in horse poop at times
16:09 mircea_popescu this is why you shouldn't feed kids honey
16:09 Adlai also, you don't want money which causes botulism in infants, the earth will be overrun by the spawn of the penniless
16:10 mircea_popescu just don't give kids dough.
16:10 thestringpuller what mircea_popescu said about comments
16:10 thestringpuller i agree
16:10 thestringpuller no censorship
16:10 Adlai what part of "opposed to machine" is "no censorship"?
16:10 thestringpuller @ cazalla -^
16:10 Adlai this is censorship.
16:10 thestringpuller machine aren't people
16:11 mircea_popescu ...
16:11 thestringpuller :P
16:11 thestringpuller Adlai: would have sex with a robot.
16:11 thestringpuller >:P
16:11 mircea_popescu he's in the israeli army, so he prolly did.
16:11 Adlai i've been out for almost two years, pls.
16:12 thestringpuller he's in mossad now, but can't tell us
16:12 mircea_popescu it's so sad the us is wasting 1 trn to build the f35, instead of building fucking power suits.
16:12 mircea_popescu if the us infantry had what's basically an android chassis, 3 or so meters tall...
16:12 * Adlai can't be in the mossad, he didn't even get security clearance to do the simplest possible code shit
16:13 Adlai apparently going on irc makes you a terrorist
16:13 mircea_popescu that's what i'd do as minister of war i mean peace. fucking power suits. flamethrower in one arm, minigun in other, go for it.
16:13 thestringpuller you've been watching too much anime
16:13 mircea_popescu Adlai lol you seriously blew your clearance because #b-a ?
16:14 thestringpuller maybe playing too much starcraft too...
16:14 mircea_popescu thestringpuller can you imagine what the volunteer lines'd look like ?
16:14 Adlai #b-a didn't exist when i failed clearance
16:14 mircea_popescu a ok
16:14 Adlai this was before i started the army
16:14 Adlai bitcoin existed and i'd heard of it! but not #b-a
16:14 Adlai and i'd also managed to forget bitcoin already, silly me
16:14 mircea_popescu umh... you know this chan is kinda old...
16:15 Adlai summer 2009
16:15 mircea_popescu not that old.
16:15 mircea_popescu Registered : Apr 10 19:16:21 2012 (2y 39w 5d ago).
16:16 Adlai "old"
16:16 Adlai even i feel old compared to this channel
16:16 mircea_popescu scandal!
16:17 Elian11 Does anyone have clearance? Is it cool?
16:17 Adlai btw i would like a statement struck from the logs
16:17 mircea_popescu lmao
16:17 Adlai apparently all the cool kids ask for this, right? :D
16:17 Adlai i have realized that i do not regret being born a man
16:17 mircea_popescu o.O
16:17 Adlai because i can play the "how old do i look to you?" game
16:18 Adlai it's amazing how bad people can get at this
16:18 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
16:18 mircea_popescu is that before or after the "no means yes' game ?
16:19 Adlai if i wanted comeback i'd have asked your mother to spit in a cup!
16:20 mircea_popescu lol
16:20 mircea_popescu wait.
16:20 mircea_popescu i dun understand ;/
16:20 Adlai ...
16:21 mircea_popescu oh oh.
16:21 mircea_popescu cumback. kay.
16:21 Adlai ...!
16:21 * Adlai sees himself out
16:22 mircea_popescu the saddest thing here being, of course, that the general expectation that the girl's sucking cock is entirely a 90s and after affair.
16:22 mircea_popescu people in the 80s and prior sucked.
16:24 Adlai well somewhere along the way humans got quite bad at having sex, probably bottoming out in victorian england, or modern hassidic yeshivas
16:26 mircea_popescu english speakers always sucked at fucking
16:26 Adlai regarding how to block gossipd: same way that torrents are "blocked"... either by ultimately ineffective packet filtering by ISPs, or by targeted, expensive, and extreme "making examples of" individuals that fuck up badly enough
16:26 mircea_popescu and it's not fixed yet, either.
16:26 mircea_popescu Adlai both serving more to fan the flames than anything.
16:27 mircea_popescu exactly the tsar's playbook, that resulted in one dead tsar holding in his arms one dead tsar baby.
16:27 Adlai they discourage some people, which satisfies the short term interests of the bureaucrats that actually have to plan and authorize such things
16:27 mircea_popescu one dead tsar holding in his arms one dead tsar baby.
16:27 asciilifeform Adlai: it'll have to get in the queue. in usa, we pgp users are still waiting to be gassed. since the clinton administration, even.
16:27 Adlai "our department killed seven terrorists/dealers/traffickers this month!" sure, but you also recruited seventeen.
16:28 mircea_popescu "nobody could have predicted"
16:28 Adlai when was the last time a court ordered somebody to divulge a pgp key?
16:28 mircea_popescu in the uk ?
16:28 mircea_popescu prolly last week
16:28 mircea_popescu or to quote monty pythin, "this is the most outrageous miscarriage of justice since tuesday"
16:29 Adlai in planet earth. these things have a way of leaking, even if initially it's just between agencies
16:29 cazalla asciilifeform: aha finally figured out why. nm <<< i named it qntranet so it was obvious user is coming from the website instead of random joe blow
16:29 asciilifeform cazalla: yes, makes sense
16:30 cazalla but i must credit danielpbarron for the idea as first saw him using that to denote which users were coming here from which forum
16:30 mircea_popescu hey Adlai what's the most obscene, revolting and horrible hebrew swear you can think of ?
16:31 dub ty
16:31 Adlai this is a very relative question, who are you trying to offend?
16:31 mircea_popescu thank global warming.
16:31 mircea_popescu Adlai just looking for a random string really.
16:32 dub erryday I thank Al Gore
16:32 Adlai how about זונה, nice and simple
16:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00050305 = 7.5961 BTC [+] {2}
16:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00051077 = 8.7342 BTC [+] {2}
17:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22100 @ 0.00051429 = 11.3658 BTC [+] {3}
17:05 fluffypony Reddit humour: http://imgur.com/a/33Qpw (some guy setup a fake Tinder profile with some stock photos, and proceeded to canvas girls for their opinion on Bitcoin)
17:05 assbot The Women of Tinder Talk Bitcoin - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1y8WhnE )
17:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14856 @ 0.00051749 = 7.6878 BTC [+] {2}
17:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10344 @ 0.00051972 = 5.376 BTC [+]
17:15 thestringpuller ;;ident
17:15 gribble Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@unaffiliated/thestringpuller', is not identified.
17:15 thestringpuller oh well
17:16 dub oh gribbs is back
17:18 thestringpuller got any new wub wub for us mr. dub dub ?
17:18 thestringpuller :D
17:23 dub http://ecogex.com/logos/img/crumpetmuncher.png looks like something from an oglaf
17:23 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1y8Zrb0 )
17:27 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: "what's a 'small fork'? Something like 'a little pregnant'?" << figure you'd enjoy that one
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17:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1500 @ 0.00076043 = 1.1406 BTC [-] {11}
17:54 ben_vulpes funny how little google and duckduckgo claim to know about al hayat and the islamic state report
17:56 thestringpuller moop
17:57 thestringpuller now i'm on a watch list
17:57 thestringpuller :P
17:57 ben_vulpes http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/25/article-2668912-1F12C87000000578-212_306x423.jpg << i'm sending you one of these, thestringpuller
17:57 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1xlXeC9 )
18:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7797 @ 0.00051972 = 4.0523 BTC [+]
18:01 ben_vulpes http://rt.com/usa/222315-jury-silk-road-trial/
18:01 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1xlXWPN )
18:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21070 @ 0.00053103 = 11.1888 BTC [+]
18:11 kakobrekla check out the cluelessness https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=923897.0
18:11 assbot Do you think you were scammed by GAW? Tell Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1xlZSb9 )
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18:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00053103 = 1.779 BTC [+]
18:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15472 @ 0.00053032 = 8.2051 BTC [-]
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18:52 hanbot !up qntranet
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19:11 mircea_popescu thestringpuller not bad.
19:12 mircea_popescu <ben_vulpes> funny how little google and duckduckgo claim to know about al hayat and the islamic state report << that is all a coincidence that has nothing at all to do with what you *should* be knowing.
19:13 mircea_popescu kakobrekla> check out the cluelessness << lol poor guy.
19:15 mircea_popescu Dratel instead said that Ulbricht only ran Silk Road for “a few months” after he created it. Finding it “too stressful,” Ulbricht reportedly handed the website’s reins over to others. As a result, the defense argues that the government is prosecuting the wrong individual for building up a $1.2 billion black market, since Ulbricht is not Dread Pirate Roberts.
19:15 mircea_popescu Back in 2013, a separate individual claiming to be Dread Pirate Roberts stated that he/she “didn’t start the Silk Road, my predecessor did.”
19:15 mircea_popescu howly shit, they finally found the defense that's gonna hung the jury.
19:16 mircea_popescu i wonder if all the bumbling to date was simply baiting "the people" into expensive failure.
19:16 asciilifeform 'if chewbacca lives on endor you must acquit!'
19:17 mircea_popescu asciilifeform proving identity online to an us jury ?
19:17 mircea_popescu i dunno a prosecutor exists that woulnd't rather have any other task.
19:18 asciilifeform did defense dispute the 'found with pants down, logged into sr shell' thing ?
19:18 mircea_popescu i've not actually bothered to read teh actual filings
19:18 mircea_popescu going off a skim of a summary here.
19:21 mircea_popescu fluffypony: "some guy setup a fake Tinder profile with some stock photos" << somehow i suspect you just defined that thing.
19:22 mircea_popescu "If you enjoyed this hard-hitting piece of investigative journalism, consider donating to" and some nonstandard btc address follows.
19:23 mircea_popescu shockingly, this hard hitting journalist would be all in 3bitcoin.
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19:47 ben_vulpes mmm, lathed carrots.
19:47 ben_vulpes they're not d-grade roots if you turn them down and get rid of the vile outside layer!
19:58 cazalla ben_vulpes, what are lathed carrots?
20:00 cazalla google leads me to believe they machine the shitty ones into cocktail carrots.. this i never knew, i like the ones i grow which end up looking like they have 2 legs and a cock
20:01 mircea_popescu are there lathed feminists ?
20:02 mircea_popescu "hey honey, there's a hundred pounds of woman in there somewhere".
20:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36398 @ 0.00053158 = 19.3484 BTC [+] {2}
20:05 ben_vulpes i don't think i want lathed babes
20:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00055632 = 9.68 BTC [+]
20:06 * asciilifeform pictures a retelling of 'pygmalion' involving meat and six-axis cnc milling...
20:06 asciilifeform procrustalion!
20:06 cazalla i've heard of meat glue though
20:08 ben_vulpes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stCKRExcRBA << huh turns out they're not even lathed
20:08 assbot Baby Carrot line, Budget production line machines for the production of Baby Carrots production line - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/14Yrsoc )
20:08 ben_vulpes but "polished"
20:08 ben_vulpes today i learned...
20:10 cazalla a real man pulls his carrots from the garden and eats em, dirt an all
20:13 ben_vulpes CRITICAL_BLOCK
20:13 ben_vulpes ah okay so this is the famed c++ concurrency story. rad.
20:13 ben_vulpes recursive_mutex etc
20:13 ben_vulpes WHEEEEEEE
20:13 * ben_vulpes girds his loins
20:23 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
20:23 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 218.0, vol: 60876.00185126 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 212.999, vol: 39602.92108 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 219.39, vol: 151767.23879618 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 226.1, vol: 53.29606057 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 213.854766, vol: 326905.96360000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 218.05, vol: 199.13296717 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 217.708, vol: 410.37499069 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
20:23 ben_vulpes daaaaang
20:23 mike_c and this is before the hard fork.
20:24 cazalla don't go under $200.. no whammy, no whammy, no whammy
20:24 mike_c oh its going
20:24 thestringpuller :D
20:24 thestringpuller Look at all the panic we've caused. It's beautiful.
20:25 scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/01/bitcoin-on-the-agenda-for-ciscos-leadership-council-event/
20:29 felipelalli Do you guys only write original news made by you or do you consult other news sources? Or not necessarily?
20:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 5240 @ 0.00076026 = 3.9838 BTC [-] {6}
20:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 3396 @ 0.00075177 = 2.553 BTC [-] {11}
20:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 3783 @ 0.0007304 = 2.7631 BTC [-] {7}
20:32 cazalla felipelalli, i guess it depends how much we've had to drink the night before
20:34 thestringpuller felipelalli: Do you guys only write original news made by you... << this is misleading? Are you asking do we create news then report on it? Like in that james bond movie?
20:34 mircea_popescu <mike_c> oh its going << all up to gavin at this point.
20:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1600 @ 0.00076424 = 1.2228 BTC [+] {2}
20:34 thestringpuller i kinda want him to release statement "I'm going ahead with hard fork"
20:34 thestringpuller more panic
20:34 thestringpuller lower prices
20:34 mircea_popescu not like anbything prevents the man from putting an announcement on their client, "MP was right, I was wrong but too stupid to realise, sorry all!"
20:35 thestringpuller gobble up as many war coins as possible
20:35 felipelalli ahahahah :) I mean: you guys go to street like reporters? Like "original research"? Or compilation from other sources? Sorry for ask, not offence.
20:35 thestringpuller i'm moving into on the street reporting, but we also have done digital forensics
20:35 mircea_popescu felipelalli the bitpay fireparty was exclusive to qntra for instance.
20:36 ben_vulpes https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/v0.5.3/src/wallet.cpp#L760 << if this is what's necessary to pull an input out of the db to fill a sendto, the db is not working for you.
20:36 assbot bitcoin/wallet.cpp at v0.5.3 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1z8Nlyp )
20:36 felipelalli very nice!
20:36 felipelalli congratulations.
20:36 ben_vulpes https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/v0.5.3/src/wallet.cpp#L778 << i mean lolwut?
20:36 assbot bitcoin/wallet.cpp at v0.5.3 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1z8Ny4E )
20:37 felipelalli I know you guys have an original analysis, but I was wondering if you make digital forensics or go to street interview the people.
20:37 * ben_vulpes sighs
20:38 thestringpuller lol random_shuffle
20:38 thestringpuller have you git blamed that yet?
20:39 ben_vulpes naw i don't even care yo
20:39 ben_vulpes in the process of running down how vins get populated, just thought i'd share some lulz
20:40 thestringpuller felipelalli: we were running digital forensics on changetip but they're platform is too fucktarded to track accurately.
20:40 asciilifeform not like anbything prevents the man from putting an announcement... "MP was right... << impalement ?
20:40 mircea_popescu so ?
20:40 asciilifeform or whatever the nice folks handling gavin have in store for his cowardly skin
20:40 mircea_popescu why all this pretense like impalent is the summum malum ?
20:41 mircea_popescu there's worse things than dieing.
20:41 felipelalli thestringpuller: but do you talk to them? Like interview?
20:41 mircea_popescu there's certainly worse things than spending 30 years upstate.
20:41 asciilifeform brave man dies just once.
20:41 thestringpuller i've never reached out but cazalla has on occassion to various entities he's covering :P
20:41 mircea_popescu any particular something you got in mind felipelalli ?
20:41 ben_vulpes with all the hoojum around wallets and the db, i can't help but suspect that all the state the reference client should really maintain in terms of db is a) block indices and b) unspent txout pool
20:42 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes exactly my view.
20:42 thestringpuller ben_vulpes: that sounds like more than enough to run a node.
20:43 thestringpuller this file is loaded with boost_cpp
20:43 ben_vulpes utxo lets you trivially find outputs of your own to spend
20:43 ben_vulpes block indices let you dump the blockchain into a rich datastore
20:43 ben_vulpes utxo also lets miners verify transactions, an important thing to preserve imho
20:43 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes since i have your ear, allow me to privilege some actual business complaints.
20:44 ben_vulpes oh god help us
20:44 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoind-not-quite-ready-for-prime-time/
20:44 assbot Bitcoind : not quite ready for prime time pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1xmxwxj )
20:44 mircea_popescu make it not fucking fail like gavinshitcoin.
20:44 ben_vulpes lolk
20:45 ben_vulpes i'm not really seeing a future for sendmany
20:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8102 @ 0.00058195 = 4.715 BTC [+]
20:46 mircea_popescu gotta have a future for sendmany or else no txn at all.
20:46 mircea_popescu i must be able to create my own change addresses.
20:47 ben_vulpes no way. transaction cooking is a job for the person cooking transactions, not the RI.
20:47 ben_vulpes you want a change addr, you new up a change addr and include precisely how much change you want it to have.
20:48 ben_vulpes i have no problem with a bitcoin that makes txns of arbitrary size.
20:48 ben_vulpes i imagine you've found a way to get it to make them, what with all the "murder gavincoin" talk i've heard.
20:49 ben_vulpes (i encourage argument on the topic! conflict being productive and all.)
20:52 scoopbot New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/peripateticists-kinda-except-girls-not-boys-bare-cunt-instead-of-toga-and-walking-around-the-house-not-the-garden-but-otherwise-exactly-the-same/
20:52 thestringpuller what a link
20:55 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu's trying to break http/2 already
20:56 * asciilifeform still doesn't grasp the excitement the livestock butchery thing caused
20:59 asciilifeform 'Her: If violence conquers all, even argument, why are you training me in logic instead of shooting? Me: You gotta be willing and able to stand for what you believe in. If you're not, you might as well be a rabbit. And if you recall I have on numerous occasions indicated that you must meet minimal standards of violence.' << interesting! :
21:00 asciilifeform does mircea_popescu have marksmanship standards for the gurlz ?
21:05 Bet placed: 4.2 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under 200$ before Feb" http://bitbet.us/bet/1095/ Odds: 54(Y):46(N) by coin, 43(Y):57(N) by weight. Total bet: 11.63877896 BTC. Current weight: 51,535.
21:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00055448 = 7.0973 BTC [-]
21:08 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes point is, i gotta be able to make list x pay list y in one tx.
21:09 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it was never disclosed
21:09 asciilifeform ah.
21:16 thestringpuller ;;ticker
21:17 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 220.24, Best ask: 220.41, Bid-ask spread: 0.17000, Last trade: 220.25, 24 hour volume: 59177.96008404, 24 hour low: 216.0, 24 hour high: 258.49, 24 hour vwap: 0
21:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5797 @ 0.00055448 = 3.2143 BTC [-]
21:17 kakobrekla ..
21:18 felipelalli mircea_popescu: I was wondering because I really love the articles there and sometimes I didn't find the "original source".
21:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24700 @ 0.00055448 = 13.6957 BTC [-]
21:25 thestringpuller sometimes original source is not available to public :P
21:25 thestringpuller #watergate
21:25 thestringpuller #wikileaks
21:31 felipelalli thestringpuller: true :)
21:36 thestringpuller cazalla: you gonna be at the computer for a minute?
21:37 cazalla i will be until a scream comes over the baby monitor that someone is awake and demands lunch
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22:04 mod6 anyone wanna test a shell script?
22:06 mod6 http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=A182nMiK
22:06 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1DENYkU )
22:08 thestringpuller mod6: it doesn't work
22:08 mod6 pm me the error
22:09 mod6 or quit trolling :P
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22:38 mircea_popescu Error 10042 : It doesn't work.
22:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2803 @ 0.00055448 = 1.5542 BTC [-]
22:40 PeterL mod6 what does your script do?
22:41 TheNewDeal lotta shitty miners getting squeezed out othe marketplace, or what's with the 2 month long hash freeze?
22:44 BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats
22:44 gribble Current Blocks: 338861 | Current Difficulty: 4.397166205608958E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 340703 | Next Difficulty In: 1842 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 13 hours, 3 minutes, and 31 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 37632855784.5 | Estimated Percent Change: -14.41566
22:47 mod6 PeterL: builds the patched R.I. and compiles it
22:47 mod6 pulls all the patch packages, checks the hashes, checks the signatures.
22:48 mod6 mircea_popescu: ah, hmm.
22:48 mod6 oh well, w/e.
22:48 mod6 worked for me.
22:49 mod6 i hate shell scripts.
22:50 TomServo Waterfall back in action...another 4300 or so evacuated.
22:50 TomServo https://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2
22:50 assbot Bitcoin Balance of bitcoin address: 36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2 ... ( http://bit.ly/1IudBoG )
22:51 assbot Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1E88Y6A.txt )
22:51 asciilifeform !b 3
22:55 TheNewDeal who controls that?
22:55 asciilifeform hitler.
22:55 TomServo lol
22:56 TomServo That's ethereum's wallet
22:56 TheNewDeal nice
22:58 TheNewDeal it's like an inverse graph of ethereum support.
22:58 PeterL anybody guess the probability ethereum ever becomes a working thing?
23:00 TheNewDeal well if you're an ethereum dev, it already has done that
23:00 TheNewDeal it's turned shit into capital - voila
23:09 TheNewDeal anyone here tried eating melatonin before? any noticeable results?
23:11 mthreat yes. first time it gave me the most intense nightmare I've ever had.
23:11 mthreat after that, not so much, and it has helped me go to sleep, but I felt a bit groggy in the morning so I stopped taking it.
23:11 dub just made me sleep better
23:12 joecool i only use it in low dose for jet lag, it's not practical for daily use (and for me the store dosages are way too high)
23:12 mthreat I would recommend taking 1/2 mg to start, up to 1mg max.
23:12 BingoBoingo mirtazapine is generally the best for inducing trippy weird Vexual like dreams
23:12 joecool i usually use 1.5mg for that use case... any more and groggy mornings
23:12 mthreat they sell 3mg pills, that is too much, I think
23:13 dub fixin to get exual
23:13 dub wtf
23:13 joecool BingoBoingo: vitamin b6 will usually give messed up dreams too
23:14 dub Vexual
23:14 TheNewDeal stuff I bought from drug store was 5mg chewies
23:14 BingoBoingo joecool: There's a bunch of stuff that messes with dreaming.
23:14 Adlai calea z
23:14 TheNewDeal thought I read online that the body synthesizes the stuff from Tryptophan tho?
23:15 joecool well you get the same effect of taking melatonin at a much lower level if you just turn your lights off and lay down in the dark for a bit
23:15 Adlai "Users take the plant to help them remember their dreams; side effects include hallucinations, nausea, and vomiting."
23:16 dub going out in the sun works
23:16 dub problematic for #b-a shutins
23:16 mthreat bah, get a sun desktop background :)
23:17 TheNewDeal I'm working in the sunny south and it starting to get some poor sleep. If I wake up to go to the bathroom I am having trouble getting back to sleep. This is atypical for meh
23:17 dub whisky
23:21 kakobrekla test
23:21 kakobrekla !b 3
23:21 assbot Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( TheNewDeal: I'm working in the sunny south and it starting to get some poor sleep. If I wake up to go to the bathroom I am having trouble getting back to sleep. This is atypical for mehdub: whiskykakobrekla: test )
23:21 kakobrekla aha
23:24 kakobrekla !b 3
23:24 assbot Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( kakobrekla: testkakobrekla: !b 3kakobrekla: aha )
23:24 kakobrekla doh lol
23:26 BingoBoingo !b 2
23:27 assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( kakobrekla: !b 3kakobrekla: doh lol )
23:27 kakobrekla wait wut
23:28 BingoBoingo Nah just paper over it
23:28 kakobrekla mhm
23:28 kakobrekla !b 3
23:28 assbot Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2718MNX.txt )
23:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 4579 @ 0.0007418 = 3.3967 BTC [-] {8}
23:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10398 @ 0.00056568 = 5.8819 BTC [+]
23:48 ben_vulpes hola bigtip
23:54 mircea_popescu you know it kinda sucks that there's no city called buenos tardes in argentina.
23:55 asciilifeform !up Alina-malina
23:56 mircea_popescu mod6:i hate shell scripts. << i wasn't serious man. just joking around his error.
23:56 asciilifeform Alina-malina: who might you be ?
23:56 mod6 oh srsly?
23:56 mod6 i've been like killing kittens for like 30 minutes
23:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24004 @ 0.00056568 = 13.5786 BTC [+]
23:56 mircea_popescu shit
23:56 mircea_popescu i shoud be more careful
23:56 mod6 haha. no worries.
23:56 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: probably a badmouthed set of points
23:57 mircea_popescu TomServo: https://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2 << that the ethereum "investment" address ?
23:57 assbot Bitcoin Balance of bitcoin address: 36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2 ... ( http://bit.ly/1ya4yHX )
23:57 BingoBoingo Indeed
23:57 mircea_popescu aha
23:57 mircea_popescu lol. for all the redditard "consensus" and "Community" i can never find someone to write me a fucking short worth ten bucks on their idiotic ideas.
23:58 mircea_popescu nobody wants to buy gavincoins atm, either. been asking around, zilch actual support
23:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16781 @ 0.00058654 = 9.8427 BTC [+] {2}
23:58 mircea_popescu "oh there's 100% support with the gab, 0% support with the purse, how could this not succeed"
23:58 asciilifeform same as the buterin thing
23:59 mircea_popescu PeterL: anybody guess the probability ethereum ever becomes a working thing? << epsilon, when it was announced. that was a while back.
23:59 mircea_popescu wow mthreat's in da house. how goes man ?
23:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2880 @ 0.00058725 = 1.6913 BTC [+]
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