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00:04 cazalla thestringpuller, nah, didn't even ask to go for a drink, fkn canadians eh
00:05 cazalla he comes to australia, shits all over our costco monuments and leaves
00:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28432 @ 0.0006335 = 18.0117 BTC [+] {2}
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00:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14350 @ 0.00063886 = 9.1676 BTC [+] {2}
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02:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22050 @ 0.00063568 = 14.0167 BTC [-]
02:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43200 @ 0.00061779 = 26.6885 BTC [-] {2}
02:32 BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2014/12/bitcoin-bowl-recap-nc-state-wins-34-27/
02:32 assbot Bitcoin Bowl Recap: NC State Wins (34-27) | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/13LdVzK )
02:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14350 @ 0.00064 = 9.184 BTC [+]
02:52 ben_vulpes oh man those bitpay ads
02:52 ben_vulpes "i accept bitcoin with my butt:
02:53 ben_vulpes "i accept bitcoin with my personal toolchain:
02:53 ben_vulpes dammit
02:53 ben_vulpes too many pretty girls and too many pretty wilamette valley wines
02:57 BingoBoingo It happens. I'm just surprised it was such a good football game.
03:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54200 @ 0.00063329 = 34.3243 BTC [-] {2}
03:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7402 @ 0.00064 = 4.7373 BTC [+]
03:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30829 @ 0.00064304 = 19.8243 BTC [+]
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04:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11339 @ 0.00062249 = 7.0584 BTC [-]
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04:51 thestringpuller asciilifeform: have you heard of a book called metro 2033?
04:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 4000 @ 0.0011851 = 4.7404 BTC [-] {3}
05:04 BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/drewmagary/status/548649727093669889
05:04 assbot The Bitcoin Bowl field looks like it was pissed on by a giant dog.
05:12 BingoBoingo So, the Qntra Bitcoin Bowl Recap hasn't gotten the best reception: http://qntra.net/2014/12/bitcoin-bowl-recap-nc-state-wins-34-27/#comment-4911
05:12 assbot Bitcoin Bowl Recap: NC State Wins (34-27) | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1BevYsX )
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05:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.00064933 = 14.4151 BTC [+]
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06:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13610 @ 0.00065217 = 8.876 BTC [+] {2}
06:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32050 @ 0.00064526 = 20.6806 BTC [-] {4}
06:29 BingoBoingo https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/2qhlu9/game_thread_bitcoin_st_petersburg_bowl_north/cn67227
06:29 assbot gravesam327 comments on [Game Thread] Bitcoin St. Petersburg Bowl: North Carolina State @ UCF (8:00 PM ET) ... ( http://bit.ly/1H4hWOE )
06:30 BingoBoingo "Damn it why couldn't this have been sponsored by Dogecoin? Can you imagine the amazing midfield logo?"
06:30 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
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07:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18923 @ 0.00061648 = 11.6657 BTC [-] {2}
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07:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34300 @ 0.0006355 = 21.7977 BTC [+] {2}
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08:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49300 @ 0.00061964 = 30.5483 BTC [-]
08:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12750 @ 0.00061964 = 7.9004 BTC [-]
08:23 mats www.aljazeera.com/story/2014122743653714626
08:24 mats http://aje.io/23yf *
08:24 assbot N Korea likens Obama to primate in Sony row - Asia-Pacific - Al Jazeera English ... ( http://bit.ly/1xXiUKY )
08:27 BingoBoingo I don't think the word the mean to use was "shape"...
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09:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00062211 = 14.6818 BTC [+] {2}
09:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00061008 = 12.5066 BTC [-] {2}
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09:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24591 @ 0.00064897 = 15.9588 BTC [+] {2}
09:43 kakobrekla rofl http://torrentfreak.com/images/kimask.png
09:43 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1viI0x8 )
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10:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3078 @ 0.00066019 = 2.0321 BTC [+]
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10:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4350 @ 0.00066236 = 2.8813 BTC [+]
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11:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19452 @ 0.00066019 = 12.842 BTC [-]
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12:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36486 @ 0.00066251 = 24.1723 BTC [+] {2}
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13:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21550 @ 0.00066507 = 14.3323 BTC [+]
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14:06 mats http://www.fbi.gov/chicago/press-releases/2014/high-frequency-trader-indicted-for-manipulating-commodities-futures-markets-in-first-federal-prosecution-for-spoofing
14:06 assbot FBI — High-Frequency Trader Indicted for Manipulating Commodities Futures Markets in First Federal Prosecution for Spoofing ... ( http://bit.ly/1CNG34t )
14:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74502 @ 0.00065397 = 48.7221 BTC [-] {2}
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15:00 Adlai "It was illegal for traders to place orders in the form of “bids” to buy or “offers” to sell a futures contract with the intent to cancel the bid or offer before execution." <- wat
15:03 ben_vulpes watch out Adlai, you're in their crosshairs now.
15:03 Adlai scalpl executes approximately 0.1% of the orders it places, i guess i'm fucked
15:04 ben_vulpes the notion that an order once placed must live on until filled is pretty lulzy
15:04 ben_vulpes although it's right in line with the bitcoin 'no backsies' ethos.
15:05 Adlai a saner approach (and probably what the relevant laws actually say, rather than this trite simplification) is that some amount of time has to elapse between placement and cancellation, perhaps measured on the "volume clock"
15:07 cazalla short logs this morning
15:18 ben_vulpes the wallets notion is actually dangerous to noob minds. how is anyone ever supposed to get a decent comprehensive understanding of bitcoin if it's behavior is wrapped up in this pernicious notion of wallets?
15:20 ben_vulpes it makes some amount of sense in a pre blockchain explorer world i suppose: 'how is one supposed to know what transactions are available for spending?' 'listunspent, oh noob'.
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15:38 joecool o hey one of my sites apparently was ddos'ing trilema
15:45 ben_vulpes Adlai: http://trilema.com/2012/mpex-and-the-hft-problem/
15:45 assbot MPEx and the HFT problem pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/16WeuZx )
15:48 kakobrekla >Maybe MPEx should offer end-to-end quantum access to the engine, enabling users to submit orders with precisely defined wavefunction, instead of pretending above behavior is a bug and trying to fix it in vain or rationalize it backwardly. < lol
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16:04 joecool so is there a new sploit in the wild doing reflection attacks with wordpress? we got a pingback from trilema but we don't have it showing up in our logs (and we don't show up in the ones trilema posted)
16:09 thestringpuller lol joecool!!!!!
16:10 thestringpuller wow first name I see when logging in
16:10 thestringpuller and I had dreams about snoopy and his theme song
16:11 joecool well it's not like i haven't been around here before, you know?
16:11 thestringpuller https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZLxB8Xm4Ak
16:12 thestringpuller yea but I had an intense dream about snoopy and vince guaraldi, and then the second I log in your name is the first one i see on the stack
16:12 joecool its fate yo
16:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1475 @ 0.00118999 = 1.7552 BTC [+] {3}
16:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22900 @ 0.0006535 = 14.9652 BTC [-] {2}
16:34 thestringpuller ;;later tell chetty https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-pTCrgbc433k/VJsu-k48pSI/AAAAAAAAXIQ/mTHXZ4fpDBY/w500-h268-no/anigif.gif << blender got an upgrade
16:34 gribble The operation succeeded.
16:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27800 @ 0.00066643 = 18.5268 BTC [+] {4}
16:52 kakobrekla https://twitter.com/Bitcoin_Stocks/status/548908520070844416
16:52 assbot https://t.co/Ous275BdJ1 is now online! NEWEST bitcoin HYIP! Already $20USD invested in less than 2 hours of launch! /hashtag/hyip?src=hash /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash /hashtag/invest?src=hash
16:52 kakobrekla oyeah.
16:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35650 @ 0.00066938 = 23.8634 BTC [+] {3}
17:00 Azelphur can I reply to that with the wikipedia article explaining that a HYIP is a ponzi scheme
17:00 Azelphur I want to so badly.
17:05 Azelphur I did it, I'm curious to see how mad whoever it is gets. :P
17:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33024 @ 0.00067033 = 22.137 BTC [+] {2}
17:23 thestringpuller The P in that acronymy stands for Ponzie though...
17:23 thestringpuller Ponzi, been watching too much happy days with the Fonzie.
17:24 thestringpuller ;;ud hyip
17:24 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=HYIP | The word "hyip" is the bastard child of the words hip and yip. Usually repeated twice in quick succession, the pitch of your voice should match the level of your ...
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17:41 kakobrekla !up zerouncool
17:41 zerouncool hello
17:41 zerouncool fre ups now?
17:41 kakobrekla nah, that be 5$
17:46 kakobrekla jeez i wasnt serious.
17:47 kakobrekla !up diatonic
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18:03 mircea_popescu incidentally asciilifeform does http://trilema.com/2014/come-see-me-dream-math/ bring anything to mind ?
18:03 assbot Come see me dream math. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1D0XWdj )
18:04 mircea_popescu on the topic of "can irrational numbers that are powers of rational numbers be written out as polynomes with rational parameters"
18:11 ben_vulpes good day, mircea_popescu
18:11 mircea_popescu how goes!
18:11 ben_vulpes well enough well enough
18:12 ben_vulpes discovered that 0.5.3 doesn't have the create/sign raw transaction facilities :(
18:12 ben_vulpes *or* importprivkey
18:12 ben_vulpes what else
18:12 ben_vulpes oh yeah the moviefication of the pynchon novel inherent vice releases next week.
18:13 ben_vulpes unrelated but exciting
18:13 mircea_popescu nah those were added later
18:13 * mircea_popescu tries to remember when
18:13 mircea_popescu prolly 6.branch
18:14 mircea_popescu importprivkey is trivial tho, just not supported by the gui or w/e
18:14 mircea_popescu people had been building "wallet tools" as a bundle in parallel which eventually got merged into bitcoind sometime around early 2012
18:15 mircea_popescu prolly would have been better if they actually became an independent project and continued separately, but beggars/
18:16 ben_vulpes i'm of the opinion that facilities for btc handling beyond creating and signing raw transactions are entirely unnecessary.
18:16 mircea_popescu so you keep your btc total in head ?
18:16 ben_vulpes not fundation policy by any stretch of the imagination, just my opinion at this point in time.
18:17 ben_vulpes yeah, why not? or check any of the myriad blockchain explorers.
18:17 ben_vulpes put it in a spreadsheet oslt
18:18 mircea_popescu it gets iffy.
18:18 mircea_popescu at the very least you need a safe enumerator of pubkeys.
18:18 mircea_popescu once you do that, might as well do some accounting.
18:18 mircea_popescu once you do that, idiocy like bitcoind does with "accounts" and whatnot is a tempting step away
18:19 ben_vulpes that's what i've seen in practice.
18:19 ben_vulpes plus the whole "sendto" paradigm provides the opportunity for downright nefarious behavior like sending change to random addresses.
18:19 ben_vulpes anyways we're talking reference implementation, not wallet for noobs.
18:22 mircea_popescu why is sending change to random addresses nefarious ?
18:23 mircea_popescu more aptly put, if that's nefarious why do we even think bitcoin makes sense.
18:23 ben_vulpes sorry, i'm being unclear.
18:23 ben_vulpes the wallet model provides cover for the "no address reuse" hooliganry.
18:24 ben_vulpes the implicit "pull new key out of keypool (creating new keypair if keypool is exhausted), send all spare coins beyond the explicitly specified mining fee to this new keypair" routine.
18:25 ben_vulpes maybe i'm getting cranky, but the "specify all important outputs, remainder is for the miners" behavior of transaction processing should never have been papered over.
18:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4242 @ 0.00067036 = 2.8437 BTC [+]
18:30 mircea_popescu im not so sure that predictable behaviour is actually ideal.
18:31 mircea_popescu what's wrong with "create 6 new addresses, split change on any tx among these 6, usingthe same number of nonzero digits as the payment"
18:31 mircea_popescu so a 3.7566 payment out of a 3.9 btc balance becomes 3.7566 0.0992 etc
18:32 ben_vulpes sure that's sensible.
18:33 ben_vulpes someone could even write a script that takes an input, a config file, and a desired output to cook up the desired transaction.
18:33 ben_vulpes which then gets signed by bitcoin, given the relevant privkey.
18:35 mircea_popescu yeah, the address count could be user-configured
18:35 mircea_popescu too many unsafe on weak entropy systems. then again, whith a good entropy source, 256 or 65536 could be the default.
18:36 mircea_popescu with a 64k list one would have the following problem : the tree of following transactions 4 bits removed is... 64bit.
18:36 mircea_popescu 4 bits removed = 4 steps removed
18:37 ben_vulpes anyways the point i'm trying to make is that desired wallet behavior is entirely orthogonal to a thing that "bitcoinates".
18:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4649 @ 0.00065979 = 3.0674 BTC [-]
18:38 ben_vulpes the fewer things that are included in the notion of bitcoinating, the easier it'll be for nubbins` to print and asciilifeform to read.
18:38 mircea_popescu no argument.
18:49 joecool mircea_popescu: hey, one of my sites got a pingback from trilema on christmas saying it was affected by the pingback ddos, is this still an issue in current wordpress? xmlrpc looks substantially rewritten since we initially worked around this
18:49 mircea_popescu joecool it is yes.
18:49 mircea_popescu lemme find you the ref
18:50 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/o-hai-let-me-wanna-be/#comment-110801
18:50 assbot O hai let me wanna-be! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1vBnlp4 )
18:50 mircea_popescu be so kind to leave a comment once you fix it, it'll encourage other people to do the same i believe.
18:50 joecool mircea_popescu: thanks, we'll make a post directing to the information too
18:51 mircea_popescu fixing teh interwebs, one inept hole at a time!
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20:20 BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2014/12/bitcoin-bowl-recap-nc-state-wins-34-27/#comment-4965
20:20 assbot Bitcoin Bowl Recap: NC State Wins (34-27) | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1BdOkLb )
20:33 cazalla you and your smarmy comments BingoBoingo
20:34 BingoBoingo I know. I learned comments from kakobrekla. By this time next year my soul may too become slanderous.
20:38 BingoBoingo !up b00lcrap
20:38 BingoBoingo Hello b00lcrap
20:38 mircea_popescu lol he is pretty good with comments huh
20:39 b00lcrap hello
20:39 b00lcrap good day gentlemen
20:41 b00lcrap Mr.P how is life in the southern hemisphere
20:44 decimation ;;isitdown log.bitcoin-assets.com
20:44 gribble log.bitcoin-assets.com is up
20:44 decimation not for me
20:44 b00lcrap hello BingoBango
20:44 kakobrekla decimation its up here
20:45 decimation log1 works fine
20:46 kakobrekla dik.
20:47 decimation I do get response, it's just slow
20:47 decimation maybe some pipe filled up somewhere
20:49 kakobrekla looks like someone from bitwin discovered bitbet comments and figured out the math
20:49 kakobrekla dang.
20:49 BingoBoingo Maybe increment to 38?
20:49 b00lcrap can u tell me why someone hates bitcoin-assets so much they wish to ddos whoever joins?
20:50 decimation b00lcrap: it's a mystery
20:50 mircea_popescu tons of people living on welfare out there.
20:50 mircea_popescu this means they don't have to make sense, or even consider their actions.
20:50 b00lcrap is that why there is so much black people crime in america
20:51 BingoBoingo b00lcrap: Don't forget methed up white people and hardworking shades of brown in between.
20:51 decimation I'm not sure welfare is the proximate cause for black violence
20:51 decimation witness west africa
20:51 b00lcrap this is ture
20:52 mircea_popescu well there's a jump, from ddosing to black violence.
20:52 mircea_popescu what is this!
20:52 b00lcrap you know i was watching the notebook last night and i thought wow, people were so civilized in the 50's. then i thought what culture changing event could have possibly happened to cause all of this fuckedupness.
20:52 b00lcrap then i realized, it was the integration that happened in the 60s
20:52 b00lcrap im feeling pretty racist
20:53 cazalla you need to check that white privilege b00lcrap
20:53 b00lcrap lol
20:53 b00lcrap im not saying all black people are like that ofc not
20:54 cazalla i think i'll take my own privilege down the bottlo and get another bottle of sambuca seeing all is quiet on the news front and BingoBoingo has taken to trolling the readers
20:54 b00lcrap well i guess i kind of did just say they destroyed america.
20:54 decimation b00lcrap: black people didn't destroy america, the cultural marxists who infantilized blacks and waged war on regular working people did
20:55 b00lcrap hold on your words are too big let me google that before i respond
20:55 decimation the 'long march through the institutions' - ever hierarchy was ripped down and replaced with a communist bureaucracy
20:57 BingoBoingo cazalla: Not the readers, just certain sorts of commenters.
20:58 b00lcrap does anyone here
20:58 b00lcrap even live in the states?
20:58 b00lcrap i mean
20:58 b00lcrap america.
20:59 BingoBoingo Nominally.
21:00 * mircea_popescu thinks decimation pretty much has it
21:00 mircea_popescu it is, after all, easier this way.
21:02 b00lcrap hey mircea_popescu i was curious about something, does santa still ride a sliegh down there ?
21:02 mircea_popescu where ?
21:02 b00lcrap in the southern hemisphere where its summer ( mostly )
21:03 mircea_popescu oh. they were preparing the weirdest nativity scenes earlier, with like palsm and camels and shit.
21:03 BingoBoingo I thought in the Southern Hemisphere they just got all Krampus and no Santa
21:03 b00lcrap lol
21:03 b00lcrap well camels makes sense i suppose
21:04 mircea_popescu anyways, im off for now, have fun good people!
21:04 b00lcrap enjoy.
21:04 b00lcrap i just learned about krampujs last week
21:04 b00lcrap from american dad
21:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00065503 = 11.332 BTC [-]
21:08 BingoBoingo Ah.
21:08 joecool learned about zwarte piet from the -otc channel the other day
21:13 BingoBoingo !up b00lcrap
21:13 b00lcrap black peter rofl.
21:13 b00lcrap thats hillarious
21:15 BingoBoingo In the event I father children that I stay around to raise, "Red Sleigh Down" is going to be the official Jesus/Santa story relayed to them.
21:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13253 @ 0.00067036 = 8.8843 BTC [+] {2}
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21:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2597 @ 0.00067113 = 1.7429 BTC [+]
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22:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48600 @ 0.00065452 = 31.8097 BTC [-] {4}
22:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2194 @ 0.00118511 = 2.6001 BTC [-] {8}
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22:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 97800 @ 0.00064822 = 63.3959 BTC [-] {3}
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