00:00 |
decimation |
not because the issue has been solved but merely because of a new arrangement in memory |
00:00 |
asciilifeform |
external << worth pointing out that i did not build with 'period' libs. |
00:01 |
decimation |
nevertheless, there is at least some chance that your experiment will reveal something interesting |
00:05 |
BingoBoingo |
http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/11/potentially-catastrophic-bug-bites-all-versions-of-windows-patch-now/ << WinBleed |
00:05 |
assbot |
Potentially catastrophic bug bites all versions of Windows. Patch now | Ars Technica |
00:06 |
asciilifeform |
s/patch/exploit |
00:07 |
BingoBoingo |
Refresh, someone found the old door, time for a new door |
00:11 |
asciilifeform |
someone << ru |
00:18 |
mircea_popescu |
<ben_vulpes> if yes, mark as good with git bisect <<< interesting approach. |
00:19 |
mircea_popescu |
<decimation> ben_vulpes: what if the 'wedging' were caused by some dependency (memory leak, etc)? << this is undoubtedly the case for at least some wedgings |
00:20 |
mircea_popescu |
but anyway, the plan is promising because it engenders familiarity with the damned thing. |
00:20 |
* |
asciilifeform far more familiar than wanted to be |
00:21 |
mircea_popescu |
"A failure to properly filter specially formed packets makes it possible for attackers to execute attack code of their choosing by sending malicious traffic to a Windows-based server." << sounds like windows had a replica of heartbleed. |
00:22 |
asciilifeform |
arbitrary remote code exec |
00:22 |
mircea_popescu |
either they stole openssh code (unlikely) or the thing was actually usg-mandated (which in some interpretations is one step above what we already knew, ie sponsored) |
00:22 |
asciilifeform |
not necessarily 'replica' of anything |
00:22 |
ben_vulpes |
http://f9beb4d9.org/ml/btc-dev/2014-November/000008.html |
00:22 |
asciilifeform |
microshit is the ultimate execution of 'plausibly deniable' usg mandate. |
00:23 |
asciilifeform |
ben_vulpes: neato. |
00:23 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform to my eyes it reads like, "this is what they wanted", "openssh is the best implementation of it they managed to get before the whole thing got shot in the head" |
00:23 |
ben_vulpes |
asciilifeform: congratulate the author |
00:23 |
asciilifeform |
ben_vulpes: you may find that my patches rely on one another |
00:24 |
asciilifeform |
('patch' util is dumb as a rock) |
00:24 |
mircea_popescu |
"Microsoft's advisory said there are no mitigating factors and no workarounds for the bug." |
00:24 |
asciilifeform |
(re: 'compile with posted patches individually' idea) |
00:24 |
mircea_popescu |
the exact definition of "notabug" |
00:25 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: they almost always print 'no mitigating factors' (as in, must install update or die) |
00:25 |
mircea_popescu |
good for 'em. |
00:25 |
asciilifeform |
incidentally, some folks may wonder why microshit even bothers to announce pwnholes |
00:26 |
asciilifeform |
answer is, in many cases, they don't (often people reverse engineer them from recent patches) |
00:26 |
asciilifeform |
and when they do, part of the reason is to goad lusers to force-update |
00:26 |
asciilifeform |
so they can develop new orifices. |
00:26 |
decimation |
'the (upgrade) bell tolls for thee' |
| |
~ 24 minutes ~ |
00:51 |
scoopbot |
New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2014/11/chris-popple-of-rbs-in-regards-to-bitcoin-were-definitely-interested-in-it/ |
00:57 |
mircea_popescu |
lol bankers saying things |
01:04 |
BingoBoingo |
;;ticker --market all |
01:04 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 381.0, vol: 11750.93845470 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 379.454, vol: 9041.59829 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 382.32, vol: 21072.94259007 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 379.7664, vol: 126158.41850000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 379.99, vol: 3.08140637 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 373.1221, vol: 76.77593578 | Volume-weighted last average: 380.152910076 |
01:04 |
BingoBoingo |
;;bc,stats |
01:04 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 329647 | Current Difficulty: 3.960366625241841E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 330623 | Next Difficulty In: 976 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 2 hours, 58 minutes, and 41 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 40021602789.5 | Estimated Percent Change: 1.0553 |
01:04 |
BingoBoingo |
;;nethash |
01:04 |
gribble |
277659570.962 |
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01:25 |
ben_vulpes |
is there any interest in sharing a pre-wedge blockchain built by 0.5.3 around? |
01:26 |
ben_vulpes |
interest, value... |
| |
~ 1 hours 9 minutes ~ |
02:35 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu: yes, it serves someone wanting to jack off just fine, because nobody needs three hours of video to rub one out <<< tell that to the people that take 3 hours to find the ideal clip for that session |
02:42 |
jurov |
lol cazalla |
| |
~ 1 hours 5 minutes ~ |
03:47 |
jurov |
<mircea_popescu> [20141112 05:22] either they stole openssh code (unlikely) << not openssh but openssL. as it is under BSD, they're free to do whatever wit it. |
03:49 |
jurov |
ben_vulpes asciilifeform, others: when are you going to send your patches in expected format? |
03:49 |
jurov |
http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/patches.html should spring into life when they are received |
| |
~ 2 hours 55 minutes ~ |
06:45 |
BingoBoingo |
https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0065.mediawiki |
06:45 |
assbot |
bips/bip-0065.mediawiki at master · bitcoin/bips · GitHub |
06:51 |
BingoBoingo |
http://qntra.net/2014/11/internet-service-providers-stripping-starttls-flag/ |
06:51 |
assbot |
Internet Service Providers Stripping STARTTLS Flag | Qntra.net |
06:58 |
cazalla |
gee, you're up early/late BingoBoingo |
06:59 |
BingoBoingo |
Learly. |
07:10 |
cazalla |
scoopbot once again will not get the scoop |
07:10 |
cazalla |
http://qntra.net/2014/11/peter-vessenes-half-a-billion-dollars-to-be-spent-on-asics-over-18-months/ |
07:10 |
assbot |
Peter Vessenes: Half A Billion Dollars To Be Spent On ASICs Over 18 Months | Qntra.net |
07:11 |
jurov |
"defunct Bitcoin Foundation" hah |
07:12 |
jurov |
cazalla i had to rerad it several times |
07:12 |
jurov |
reread |
07:12 |
cazalla |
i've had a few drinks but what is wrong with it |
07:12 |
jurov |
first i was wtf, vessesnes is speaking in the nme of samsung? |
07:13 |
cazalla |
well why not? he speaks in the name of bitcoin |
07:13 |
jurov |
then wtf, no, ne is representing $1B investors? |
07:14 |
jurov |
and then "oh he's just yapping alone" |
07:14 |
cazalla |
it's what he said |
07:14 |
jurov |
what she said. |
07:14 |
cazalla |
"Much of the money will go directly to foundries with the highest technology in the world, including Samsung, Intel and TSMC" |
07:16 |
cazalla |
maybe i need another beer for clarity |
07:16 |
cazalla |
i'm sure it will make sense then |
07:16 |
jurov |
whatever |
07:17 |
jurov |
i read the source, too and this chuckleworthy info was snuck in the end: |
07:17 |
jurov |
The Bitcoin Foundation is in discussions with Korean firms and financial authorities about setting up a Bitcoin foundation in Korea. |
07:19 |
cazalla |
jurov, do you think the qntra article is bad? |
07:21 |
jurov |
it's just copied from source |
07:21 |
cazalla |
well, not much else one can add with something like that, his talk isn't online so difficult to know what else he said |
07:21 |
jurov |
the source continues "Samsung is one of a few chipmakers capable of producing 10-nonometer(sic!)-class chips." |
07:21 |
jurov |
which clarifies things |
07:22 |
jurov |
why he singled out samsung |
07:23 |
jurov |
i don't think it's bad, just..idk, maybe someone else can pinpoint it better |
07:23 |
cazalla |
i'll re-read tmw when sober |
07:25 |
jurov |
dunno what is with all the drinking in this chan |
07:25 |
jurov |
at home i'm okay with just a glass of beer or wine |
07:26 |
jurov |
and when not at home, i dont publish stuff :) |
07:27 |
cazalla |
well i suffer from this problem that i have 1, which is good, so 2 must be great, 3 is awesome and that's that |
07:27 |
cazalla |
it's my pain medicine as well |
07:27 |
cazalla |
medicinal alcohol |
07:28 |
jurov |
lol "medicinal alcohol" is 90% stuff :DDD |
07:28 |
jurov |
but yea i see what you mean |
07:29 |
BingoBoingo |
It's better than getting arrested in Silk Road scam |
07:31 |
BingoBoingo |
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/nixon-tries-to-reassure-public-as-people-prepare-for-the/article_0208b781-ee94-5a1e-8c62-af5e894acf6a.html |
07:31 |
assbot |
Nixon tries to reassure public, as people prepare for the worst : News |
07:34 |
cazalla |
BingoBoingo, think it'll be bad? they only smashed a few things after zimmerman was found not guilty |
07:34 |
BingoBoingo |
Zimmerman was also a Hispanic Jew so also kind of on the minority spectrum, also not a police officer. |
07:46 |
BingoBoingo |
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2014/08/29/professors-robots-protest-u-iowas-pink-locker-room |
07:46 |
assbot |
Professors, robots protest U. of Iowa's pink locker room @insidehighered |
| |
~ 44 minutes ~ |
08:30 |
BingoBoingo |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=850128.0 << Forum Drama |
08:30 |
assbot |
Apologies to anyone who read my posts last night! |
| |
~ 32 minutes ~ |
09:03 |
BingoBoingo |
Oh, systemd documented ruining people's days in the wild http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q4/592 |
09:03 |
assbot |
oss-sec: CVE-request: systemd-resolved DNS cache poisoning |
| |
~ 40 minutes ~ |
09:44 |
chetty |
hahahaha I just saw what has to be the funniest traffic snarl ever. The train barrier on one side is stuck and cars/busses/trucks backed up as far as the eye can see. But its a one way street and the other side is wide open, nothing stoppping people just drive to the left ... |
09:44 |
BingoBoingo |
Nice |
09:46 |
chetty |
people really are sheeps |
09:59 |
TomServo |
;;isitdown qntra.net |
09:59 |
gribble |
qntra.net is up |
10:00 |
mike_c |
down for me |
10:01 |
TomServo |
same here |
10:03 |
mircea_popescu |
ben_vulpes: interest, value... << the problem with using op's blockchain is that you're basically trusting the op |
10:03 |
mircea_popescu |
not so unlike sharing privkeys from a purely bitcoin perspective |
10:04 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla: mircea_popescu: nobody needs three hours of video to rub one out <<< tell that to the people that take 3 hours to find the ideal clip for that session << well yeah, i kinda fucked up there didn't i. |
10:04 |
mircea_popescu |
the idea isn't that jacking off is less of an intellectual activity than learning chemistry or reading nabokov, so we pile on it. |
10:05 |
mircea_popescu |
the idea was that the young and stupid are readily satisfied by the current model, on account of their vast ignorance. but nobody else is. |
10:09 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov: not openssh but openssL. as it is under BSD, they're free to do whatever wit it. << yeah openssl. not a question of under bsd or not, idea was more like : the proof that USG.HB was a thing, that was then implemented as openssl.HB is the fact that looky, a Win.HB apparently exists(ed). like, if you find a goat on a field you may think you've both discovered and invented the goat. but if you then later find anothe |
10:09 |
mircea_popescu |
r goat, you may now believe you discovered 'em, but they are being produced somewhere else and were invented by someone else. |
10:10 |
mircea_popescu |
this distinction is exactly the distinction between a bug with security implications and a deliberate security hole : they are both security holes. the finder of the bug both discovers and invents that security hole. |
10:10 |
mircea_popescu |
the finder of the deliberate thing however merely discovers it. someone else invented it. |
| |
~ 44 minutes ~ |
10:54 |
nubbins` |
<+chetty> people really are sheeps <<< occasionally when i'm in an elevator alone and it stops to let more people on, i face the back of the car to see if others will follow suit |
10:54 |
nubbins` |
works about 20% of the time |
10:55 |
asciilifeform |
my favourite 'sheep experiment' is at a place not far from where i live, where one can rent 'sea bicycles' - little boats that one can pedal around. usually folks cluster together, for no good reason. pedal to an empty part of the water, and dozens follow... |
10:56 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
10:56 |
mircea_popescu |
i hear that's how serial killers get started |
10:56 |
asciilifeform |
it had no practical consequence, but blew my mind when i discovered it many years ago. |
10:56 |
mircea_popescu |
!up saifedean |
10:57 |
mircea_popescu |
no scoopbot, no peterl... wha happened here! |
10:57 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell peterl seems teh code didn't werk. |
10:57 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
10:58 |
saifedean |
"so the paleo fad diet experts among us" Fad? Humans have been eating paleo from before they were humans. Grains, seeds, and sugars are the passing fad, it's only been 10,000 years or so, and it won't be much longer... |
10:59 |
mircea_popescu |
now listen here. the fact that the turks have worn salvari for x centuries does not mean a suburban kid showing up for some school function in silken longpants isn't following a fad. |
10:59 |
mircea_popescu |
you are not a prehistoric man. you will never be one. |
11:00 |
saifedean |
But you will become healthier, stronger, smarter and happier eating like one, rather than grinding your brain to find excuses for why you shouldn't! |
11:00 |
* |
asciilifeform can't wait to see folks follow the 'logical' paleo conclusion, and climb back into the trees |
11:01 |
mike_c |
which part of the paleo religion demands proselytization? |
11:01 |
saifedean |
"what the fuck do you do about sushi ?" You Sashimi. Really, sushi is just poor people sashimi, to get bloated with cheap grain. Sashimi is the real deal. |
11:01 |
asciilifeform |
mike_c: the part when you're high out of your mind on placebocin |
11:01 |
mike_c |
placebocin is the best drugz |
11:02 |
mircea_popescu |
saifedean you'll generally find poor people foods are better than "rich people" foods. |
11:02 |
mircea_popescu |
pork an' beans ftw. |
11:02 |
saifedean |
also, beans, lentils, and grains are frowned upon in the Paleo Cult. Our lord and saviour Art De Vany would smite you. |
11:02 |
mike_c |
pork & rice & beans even better |
11:02 |
mircea_popescu |
srsly, that's your idea, instead of a nice pot of beans cooked with a smoked leg over a day and a night |
11:02 |
mircea_popescu |
you want to just eat the leg ? |
11:03 |
mircea_popescu |
mike_c i dun care for rice in that one, but hey, matter of ethnocentric taste. |
11:03 |
mircea_popescu |
;;ud art de vany |
11:03 |
gribble |
http://ro.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Vany%20Vicious | Tattoo Artist and Model from Miami,FL. ... Vany Vicious is a hardcore bitch. ... de TatooLoverYEah 10 Ianuarie 2012 adaugă un clip video adaugă o imagine. |
11:03 |
asciilifeform |
dietary cargo cults are mega-lulz. |
11:03 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform that's the most humorous use of "cargo cult" i ever saw, |
11:04 |
mircea_popescu |
and way the fuck beyond what i imagined posible. |
11:04 |
punkman |
check out the leaderboard http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/trusted |
11:04 |
assbot |
Trusted keys | #bitcoin-assets deed registry |
11:04 |
mircea_popescu |
technically, yes, immitating the trapings of paleopeople to get chimp muscular arrangements ? that's an evolutionary choice already made for us, 500k years ago or so. |
11:05 |
mircea_popescu |
punkman how's teh rating work ? |
11:05 |
punkman |
l1+l2 of assbot |
11:05 |
mircea_popescu |
lol mk. |
11:05 |
* |
asciilifeform wonders how often taleb-like figures wander into 'paleo' cult strange, after they really felt stronger - but not from eating raw antelope, but from the real win of being set free from workschwitz - that being, sleeping ad libitum. |
11:06 |
mircea_popescu |
scalar sums of graphs still broken. |
11:06 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform you know, i just did that ? |
11:06 |
mircea_popescu |
it feels fine. |
11:08 |
nubbins` |
fad diets are a pretty good lel |
11:08 |
mircea_popescu |
as far as that goes, there's way worse ones than "stop eating all that refined sugar and chill it with the starch too" |
11:09 |
nubbins` |
p just started keeping track of calories in/out and balancing carbs/protein/fat |
11:09 |
nubbins` |
it's been less than a year, she can deadlift her own body weight and has dropped ~30lbs :0 |
11:10 |
nubbins` |
i keep saying i won't be impressed til she can deadlift me, but secretly... ;p |
11:11 |
mircea_popescu |
who the fuck can't lift their own body weight |
11:11 |
mircea_popescu |
isn't that esentially what a chinup is ? |
11:12 |
* |
nubbins` thinks |
11:12 |
nubbins` |
there's like 6 different types of chinups, all work different muscle sets |
11:12 |
mircea_popescu |
but the point still remains, you are lifting your own weight |
11:12 |
nubbins` |
you're pulling the ceiling down, vs lifting something heavy up |
11:13 |
mircea_popescu |
i guess, but you're left picking for straws here. |
11:13 |
mircea_popescu |
!up saifedean |
11:13 |
nubbins` |
i'd wager maybe three people in here can do a single chin-up |
11:13 |
mircea_popescu |
i thought you got all buthurt and pankake'd out on us, mr paleo man. |
11:13 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` i can do ten. |
11:14 |
saifedean |
heh... my butt is hurtproof, my internet connection, though |
11:14 |
nubbins` |
well i guess you can loan out a few to the rest of us |
11:14 |
nubbins` |
:P |
11:14 |
nubbins` |
anyway, try deadlifting your own weight on a barbell some time |
11:14 |
saifedean |
I was saying... pork is the shittiest of meats, as pigs eat shit. Beans are crap. fish is the food of kings... as for land food, lamb is the best, followed by beef, goat, chicken, everything else, then pork. |
11:14 |
nubbins` |
and LMK how it goes. |
11:14 |
nubbins` |
saifedean pork is delicious and cheap |
11:14 |
nubbins` |
beef is the bottom of my list |
11:14 |
mircea_popescu |
incidentally, is saifedean like the first noob ever that gets away with the sort of nutty forced ideas veterans usually display here ? |
11:15 |
nubbins` |
i think vex earned that crown |
11:15 |
saifedean |
though a swedish friend tells me reindeer meat is the best of all |
11:15 |
nubbins` |
i'd love to try reindeer |
11:15 |
mircea_popescu |
human is the best of all! |
11:15 |
nubbins` |
i'd try grass-fed human |
11:15 |
nubbins` |
avg sack of shit would prolly poison you |
11:16 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` i wouldn't do that because i dun have the techniques and am tall. prolly spring my back / give myself a hernia. |
11:16 |
nubbins` |
well i guess it's not the same thing at all then, is it :D |
11:16 |
* |
ben_vulpes gasps |
11:16 |
mircea_popescu |
but technique is not what i thought we were discussing here. |
11:16 |
ben_vulpes |
mircea_popescu: i'd never suggest sharing a blockchain for use anger! |
11:16 |
ben_vulpes |
*in |
11:16 |
nubbins` |
if we're trying to equate chinups with deadlifts, technique is precisely what we're discussing |
11:17 |
mircea_popescu |
i thought you were all in awe of the woman's sheer muscular power |
11:17 |
mircea_popescu |
i didn't realise you were implying that by counting calories she has gained the magical wisdowm of lifting shit |
11:17 |
saifedean |
The Art de Vany I mentioned is not the one that Urban dictionary turned up, it is this man: http://www.artdevanyonline.com/ |
11:17 |
assbot |
Art De Vany on Line - Results |
11:18 |
mircea_popescu |
can it be art vandalay ? |
11:18 |
saifedean |
77 years old and could kick the collective ass of everyone on this forum |
11:18 |
mircea_popescu |
uh. |
11:18 |
nubbins` |
(a) in awe, yep (b) not even close |
11:18 |
nubbins` |
by lifting shit she gained the magical wisdom |
11:18 |
nubbins` |
by eating like a normal person and not "paleo" (wtf!) she lost weight |
11:19 |
mircea_popescu |
saifedean if i add mah assassin cult to nubbins`'s here powerlifter chick, art vandalay guy is in a world of trouble. |
11:19 |
nubbins` |
but since we all know exercise and diet are linked, things sorta got jumbled together |
11:19 |
ben_vulpes |
i weary of this paleo proselytism |
11:19 |
mircea_popescu |
that's because you're not eating right |
11:19 |
mircea_popescu |
them wheats talking outta ya. |
11:19 |
nubbins` |
yeah dude |
11:20 |
nubbins` |
if god wanted you to eat cooked meat, he woulda installed a furnace in your throat |
11:20 |
assbot |
Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/14KC96M.txt ) |
11:20 |
mircea_popescu |
!b 1 |
11:20 |
nubbins` |
er wait did paleo man have fire? |
11:20 |
mircea_popescu |
sources disagree. |
11:20 |
ben_vulpes |
reminds me of someone else who spoke endlessly on the topic of wifi |
11:20 |
nubbins` |
did he have beef, pork, and chicken? |
11:20 |
saifedean |
hmmm.. de vany is a friend of taleb, we should invite the two of them here and have them chill with your assassin cult |
11:20 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` mostly squirrel. |
11:20 |
nubbins` |
ah |
11:20 |
ben_vulpes |
new meaning to "spamgun" |
11:21 |
nubbins` |
so really, a paleo diet is raw squirrel meat, berries, occasional leaves for roughage |
11:21 |
nubbins` |
sounds totally healthy and easy for modern man to adapt to |
11:21 |
nubbins` |
i can see why it's popular |
11:21 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, re pork eats shit etc : the evidence is quite clear that humans and hyenas were mostly commensal. |
11:21 |
mircea_popescu |
humans ate principally carcass. |
11:22 |
mircea_popescu |
they also lived in the same caves, alternating each other, depending on which group had stronger pups that decade. |
11:22 |
nubbins` |
paleo timeshares |
11:23 |
saifedean |
nubbins, you have no idea how many times i have heard these non-sequiturs of arguments. briefly, no, you do NOT need to emulate a caveman's life to down to its little details. The idea is to eliminate from your diet as much as possibel all the things that are relatively recent additions to our diet, to which our bodies have not adjusted very well, and which are proven to cause most of our modern illnesses. it fucking works |
11:23 |
nubbins` |
"cmon broud, my kid has diarrhea from eating beef, let us take the cave tonight" |
11:23 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` nah, more like, mary jane and anne were good sluts this year, had 7 kids, 5 years later the hyenas are fucked 3 to 1. |
11:24 |
nubbins` |
saifedean see the thing is, you're treating "our bodies" as a homogenous group, when nothing could be further form the truth |
11:24 |
nubbins` |
*from |
11:24 |
mircea_popescu |
saifedean but you understand why when one proposes action on the basis of a theory, critical examination involves reviewing what would happen if that theory were applied by someone else than the proponent. |
11:24 |
nubbins` |
"our" bodies adjust to shit all the time |
11:24 |
nubbins` |
case in point: lactose |
11:24 |
mircea_popescu |
otherwise you ACTUALLY get a cult. "thios is the law and only i may know what it says" |
11:25 |
nubbins` |
you know there was a time when cheese would make any human who consumed it ill? |
11:25 |
saifedean |
nubbins no, i'm not. you're the one who is setting up charicatures of arguments for you to tear them down. i don't give two shits what you eat, you don't have to convince me. You should be trying to challenge yourself to understand what I'm saying it, or ignoring it. That you dismiss it like that is silly |
11:25 |
nubbins` |
and thye kept doing it and now i can eat pizza with impunity? |
11:26 |
nubbins` |
saifedean i literally do not have enough spare eyes to roll the appropriate amount in your direction |
11:26 |
mircea_popescu |
saifedean most of the negative reaction comes from the very marketing heavy approach. "you should challenge yourself" ? dude, this is the lordship here. you think anyone gives a shit about such puny attempts ? |
11:26 |
* |
nubbins` challenges himself to eliminate sourdough from diet |
11:26 |
nubbins` |
wait, that's retarded. no i don't. |
11:26 |
mircea_popescu |
but it'd be a challenge! and you're like, a 15 yo male. |
11:27 |
nubbins` |
haha |
11:27 |
nubbins` |
once upon a time |
11:27 |
saifedean |
mp, yes, sure, hence, asking questions about things makes sense. dismissing them with half-baked arguments is time-wasting. |
11:27 |
mircea_popescu |
see, THAT's why you're fat nubbins. |
11:27 |
nubbins` |
i think i'm fat because i lead a sedentary lifestyle |
11:27 |
nubbins` |
but hey, tall skinny guys get pushed around |
11:27 |
mircea_popescu |
saifedean what's being dismissed anyway ? far as i can see, the part where "eat less sugar and starch, it'll be good for you" is univerally accepted. the rest, nobody has any use for. |
11:28 |
nubbins` |
^ |
11:28 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` no they don't. |
11:29 |
saifedean |
that's a good start, but you need to also eat lots of animal fat, which is absolutely very good for you.. and you need to view doing carbs like an addiction, not a healthy food. |
11:29 |
ben_vulpes |
o.O |
11:29 |
nubbins` |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzSjiDDtlIE |
11:29 |
assbot |
Trailer Park Boys - Smokes, Let's Go - YouTube |
11:30 |
mircea_popescu |
i bought i dunno, 100 or so pairs of underwear about a decade ago. got the same things i always got ever since i was a kid. eventually they run out and holy shit has the underwear business gone nuts in the meanwhile. what the fuck are all these things even! |
11:30 |
* |
nubbins` gazes at meat grinder, fridge full of shoulder, lack of potatoes in cupboard |
11:30 |
nubbins` |
tell me more about how to be healthy |
11:30 |
saifedean |
finally, "speaking of which, do paleo guys also fuck paleo ?" < Absolutely, once you've tried a carbs-free girl, you'll never go back! |
11:31 |
nubbins` |
carbs-free :0 |
11:31 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao |
11:31 |
mircea_popescu |
that is quite not what i meant. |
11:31 |
mircea_popescu |
your analogy is broken, you don't eat 150k year old meat, so you don't eat paleo in THAT sense. |
11:31 |
ben_vulpes |
dafuq is trailer park boys |
11:31 |
mircea_popescu |
what i meant is, do you fuck like a paleo guy, if you try to eat like one. |
11:32 |
mircea_popescu |
ben_vulpes sounds like a band of twinks. |
11:32 |
saifedean |
you should never fuck vegetarians. your should eat vegetarians. |
11:32 |
nubbins` |
mircea_popescu acetone-breath from ketogenic diet? i'd say he does. |
11:32 |
nubbins` |
ben_vulpes canadian television, it's uh, a thing |
11:32 |
mircea_popescu |
lol knock em out, fuck 'em raw |
11:33 |
mircea_popescu |
for maximum trollage points, that pua "executive executant" derp should rebrand his nonsense as paleo dating |
11:33 |
nubbins` |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQc-ldoX3yI |
11:33 |
assbot |
My 10 Favorite Trailer Park Boys Moments - YouTube |
11:33 |
mircea_popescu |
now THAT'd be true scandal. hollyday derp has nfi how to "strategize", you don't attack large submissive groups like women. you attack small but desperate groups. |
11:34 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov: ben_vulpes asciilifeform, others: when are you going to send your patches in expected format? <<< for shame, you lot. |
11:34 |
saifedean |
well, my personal experience is that it does make a big difference to one's sex life... it raises testosterone levels beyond what is considered 'normal' levels today |
11:34 |
mircea_popescu |
what sort of a standardisation group is this! |
11:34 |
mircea_popescu |
saifedean so you get to work harder for the same cunt ? |
11:35 |
saifedean |
no, you get to do more for your cock |
11:36 |
mircea_popescu |
so at what point in the paleo diet do you start keeping two chicks around the house ? |
11:36 |
saifedean |
that's a prerequisite for going paleo |
11:37 |
ben_vulpes |
blue dollar's been dropping? |
11:37 |
mircea_popescu |
ben_vulpes oh it was a riot, the government raped the (apparently very flimsy) black market ops. |
11:37 |
mircea_popescu |
it cut the printing short for like a week, and then launched some gossip that "it paid the debt" |
11:38 |
mircea_popescu |
dollar took a nosedive to like 11s, almost what it was in spring. |
11:38 |
mircea_popescu |
back to 13 now tho. |
11:38 |
ben_vulpes |
more momentum traders in the pese than btc huh |
11:39 |
mircea_popescu |
well, i think they just try to work on very short reserves |
11:39 |
mircea_popescu |
and even shorter experience. |
11:39 |
mircea_popescu |
most of the people i saw involved are either kids or else native spanish speakers. neither of these makes for very good basis in thought. |
11:40 |
nubbins` |
pero... pero... |
11:40 |
mircea_popescu |
pero perro. |
11:41 |
nubbins` |
:D |
11:41 |
nubbins` |
perro por favor! |
11:43 |
mircea_popescu |
and in today's funny spanish por gringos : one way to say butt in spanish is... tonel. literally, tun. |
11:43 |
ben_vulpes |
"tu tonel pesa un tonel"? |
11:43 |
ben_vulpes |
uno |
11:44 |
mircea_popescu |
i think it's a volume measure. |
11:44 |
BingoBoingo |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQx1Urpcyfw |
11:44 |
assbot |
Ultimate Sex Underwear Ballbra and UnderwearPockets on CBC Dragons Den s4 e.10 - YouTube |
11:44 |
ben_vulpes |
as in mash tun? |
11:45 |
mircea_popescu |
as in 8 barrels. |
11:45 |
mircea_popescu |
(to be fair, in english the butt is a half tun anyway) |
11:45 |
ben_vulpes |
ha |
11:45 |
nubbins` |
dem weights & measures |
11:46 |
nubbins` |
my old man wrote a book once |
11:47 |
nubbins` |
i suppose the tun and the butt are in it |
12:00 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell vexual http://trilema.com/2014/venetian-republic-and-find-spiritual-music/ there, just for you. |
12:00 |
assbot |
Venetian Republic and Find spiritual music. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
12:00 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
12:14 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.artdevanyonline.com/uploads/3/1/1/9/3119807/header_images/1392752910.jpg << what the shit is going on in the 4th image ?! |
12:18 |
mircea_popescu |
http://arthurdevany.com/case-experience.html "Estimated the delay to the production of Once Upon A Wedding caused by food poisoning of the cast and crew." |
12:18 |
assbot |
Case Experience - Arthur De Vany Consulting |
12:19 |
mircea_popescu |
"On behalf of Universal Studios, The project was to examine and estimate the impact of piracy on box-office revenues for Universals 2003 release of the motion picture The Hulk. Modeled the dynamics of box office revenue and its relation to the number of sites and downloads of a pirated copy." |
12:19 |
mircea_popescu |
this guy's made a career out of numberology. |
12:20 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: http://www.contravex.com/2014/11/04/lets-cut-to-the-chase-is-la-serenissima-a-cult/ |
12:20 |
assbot |
Let’s Cut To The Chase, Is La Serenissima A Cult? | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski |
12:20 |
mircea_popescu |
wd. what gave it away ? |
12:20 |
BingoBoingo |
First blockquote |
12:20 |
mircea_popescu |
more power to ya. addy ? |
12:22 |
BingoBoingo |
1EJdNnzH9TaryxhS9Wg2VnSUqKHZgiJgx4 |
12:22 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.artdevanyonline.com/1/post/2013/09/statins-and-exercise.html << incidentally, this is an excellent point. |
12:22 |
assbot |
Statins and Exercise - Art De Vany on Line |
12:23 |
mircea_popescu |
more generally : the pharma industry, which works essentially on the "let's make random molecules and then see what happens" coupled with the fda pseudoverification theatre has managed to produce a lengthy list of very slow acting poisons. |
12:23 |
mircea_popescu |
basically stuff is selected for that "does no harm" in a particularly short sighted definition of "no". |
12:24 |
mircea_popescu |
i would wager myself to say that this very ill effect of the entire "intellectual property" charade actually outweights all the historical benefit predicated to have been accrued through its existence. |
12:25 |
BingoBoingo |
Well, that's why a family of drugs gets popular all at once and then it falls out of fashion when the long term side effects get noticed only to be replace with something that trades out the last generation's deteriment for another. |
12:25 |
mircea_popescu |
much like the mismanaged airlines of the early xxist century managed to lose AL THE MONEY ever made through flying since the invention of flight, |
12:25 |
mircea_popescu |
the idiotic us/eu pharma conglomerates have managed to outweigh all the benefit of opening trade sectrets (discussed coupla weeks ago here) |
12:26 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo in particular statins are an excellent example of this insanity. |
12:26 |
mircea_popescu |
"want to destroy your kidneys over 3 or so decades while curing yourself from something that's allegedly bad ? pay us 1k a year!" |
12:26 |
BingoBoingo |
Well cholesterol controlling medication has gone through this for a few generations already. |
12:26 |
mircea_popescu |
exactly. |
12:27 |
mircea_popescu |
i mean, it's just a replay of the "we have all this fluoridated sludge from aluminum processing and other industrial processes, getting rid of it is expensive, how about getting the city to pay us to add it to the water ?" |
12:27 |
mircea_popescu |
except, on a more subtle, thus more pernicious level. |
12:28 |
mircea_popescu |
people that derp about "bitcoin changing the world" have very little idea of the changes incumbent. it's things like these. mp will never permit the pharma "economic growth engine", as a for instance. |
12:28 |
mircea_popescu |
that's a third of the us economy, and about 30% of the eu. |
12:30 |
ben_vulpes |
<mircea_popescu> i would wager myself to say that this very ill effect of the entire "intellectual property" charade actually outweights all the historical benefit predicated to have been accrued through its existence. << stealing this |
12:31 |
mircea_popescu |
go right ahead. |
12:32 |
BingoBoingo |
I mean there's the rare, almost unambiguously good drug introductions. Penicillin, Cisplatin, methotraxate, Viagra, thorazine, monoclonal antibodies |
12:33 |
mircea_popescu |
tadalafil etc may be too soon to know. |
12:34 |
mircea_popescu |
im pretty sure methotrexate is not on that list. |
12:34 |
BingoBoingo |
tadalafil one of the copycats. I'm talking Sildenafil, the original, which important because the the previous option is caverject. |
12:34 |
mircea_popescu |
even so. |
12:35 |
BingoBoingo |
The thing about the listed drugs is non of them except maybe thorazine is intended to be taken until "natural death" |
12:35 |
mircea_popescu |
this is a good objection |
12:35 |
mircea_popescu |
i mean, sulpha drugs are great |
12:36 |
mircea_popescu |
the notion of taking a pill a day for the rest of your life however ... |
12:36 |
mircea_popescu |
but perhaps that may be divorced from the ensemble, it's just dumb marketing. |
12:38 |
BingoBoingo |
Cisplatin and Methotrexate make the list because maybe they clear a cancer, maybe they don't. Those are the two biggish oncology discoveries though... |
12:38 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, off to eat. later all! |
12:49 |
TomServo |
;;bc,stats |
12:49 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 329716 | Current Difficulty: 3.960366625241841E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 330623 | Next Difficulty In: 907 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 11 hours, 29 minutes, and 8 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 39944661549.4 | Estimated Percent Change: 0.86102 |
12:50 |
TomServo |
;;ticker |
12:50 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 420.1, Best ask: 420.78, Bid-ask spread: 0.68000, Last trade: 420.1, 24 hour volume: 28154.26058302, 24 hour low: 364.18, 24 hour high: 421.13, 24 hour vwap: 392.399632228 |
12:50 |
TomServo |
Quite the ramp today. Surprised ThickAsTheives isn't around for all this action. |
12:53 |
BingoBoingo |
Yeah |
12:55 |
BingoBoingo |
Prices swing usually bring TaT out. I think this is the dark market bust bump |
13:01 |
BingoBoingo |
;;ticker |
13:01 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 434.13, Best ask: 434.41, Bid-ask spread: 0.28000, Last trade: 434.13, 24 hour volume: 29965.14739803, 24 hour low: 364.18, 24 hour high: 434.8, 24 hour vwap: 394.803918681 |
13:01 |
ben_vulpes |
dang lookit her go |
13:02 |
BingoBoingo |
;;ticker |
13:03 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 431.35, Best ask: 432.06, Bid-ask spread: 0.71000, Last trade: 432.05, 24 hour volume: 30185.42680255, 24 hour low: 364.18, 24 hour high: 434.8, 24 hour vwap: 394.803918681 |
13:04 |
BingoBoingo |
http://qntra.net/2014/11/bitcoin-prices-cross-430/ |
13:04 |
assbot |
Bitcoin Prices Cross $430 | Qntra.net |
13:04 |
punkman |
no more cheap coins |
13:07 |
BingoBoingo |
Wat, I just earned 0.1 BTC for reading Trilema, Vexual edition. |
13:07 |
gernika |
!s TaT |
13:07 |
assbot |
1220 results for 'TaT' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=TaT |
13:20 |
thestringpuller |
where is scoopbot |
13:20 |
thestringpuller |
scoopbot don't got the scoop? |
13:21 |
BingoBoingo |
The scoopbot always on patch seems to need work |
13:22 |
punkman |
maybe I should setup RSS plugin for notarybot |
13:27 |
thestringpuller |
notarybot is merging with scoopbot? |
13:29 |
punkman |
probably not |
13:29 |
punkman |
notary, status |
13:29 |
notary |
punkman: No pending deeds | Last bundle 1 day, 12 hours, and 28 minutes ago |
13:29 |
punkman |
I like typing that |
13:32 |
thestringpuller |
notary, make sandwich |
13:36 |
assbot |
Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2CDPKSX.txt ) |
13:36 |
danielpbarron |
!b 4 |
13:39 |
BingoBoingo |
notary, echo ;;ticker |
13:45 |
BingoBoingo |
Debian lulz https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/11/msg00144.html |
13:45 |
assbot |
Re: "done with consensus decisionmaking", "war", "rearguard battles" [was: Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling] |
13:46 |
BingoBoingo |
!up saifedean |
13:48 |
saifedean |
thanks for the voice bingoboingo |
13:49 |
BingoBoingo |
You're welcome |
13:50 |
thestringpuller |
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2i6pz0/peter_todds_checklocktimeverify_means_bitcoin/ckzdetm << reddit isn't fully retarded |
13:58 |
saifedean |
What do you good folk make of the Winkelvoss twins' foray into bitcoin? |
14:00 |
thestringpuller |
they were late to facebook and are now late to bitcoin (even thought they bought a ton early on) |
14:00 |
thestringpuller |
they seem to be late to parties a lot too |
14:01 |
nubbins` |
winkdex is best dex |
14:01 |
nubbins` |
can't trust them jaws tho |
14:04 |
nubbins` |
two days ago i realized i'd been waiting a month and a half for 18 unfiltered uv tubes from acklands-grainger |
14:04 |
nubbins` |
"fuck those assholes, i'm buying from somewhere else" |
14:04 |
nubbins` |
today i get an email saying my bulbs have arrived :0 |
14:06 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: patches << http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/patches.html >> 404 |
14:09 |
thestringpuller |
good 'ol hanbot |
14:10 |
nubbins` |
neither that good nor that old |
14:11 |
thestringpuller |
she is the evil twin |
14:11 |
hanbot |
howdy |
14:11 |
hanbot |
nubbins wanna see my complaint dept? :D |
14:14 |
thestringpuller |
i would assume that is just a box that leads to a shredder |
14:17 |
nubbins` |
;;google teeth (2007) |
14:17 |
gribble |
Teeth (2007) - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0780622/>; Teeth (film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teeth_(film)>; Teeth (2007) - Movie Trailer - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-qd-k0Vg7s> |
14:18 |
hanbot |
nah, gotta have souring agents to make good pickles |
14:18 |
* |
nubbins` guffaws |
14:19 |
nubbins` |
was it you who wrote that short story about the pgp murder-suicide? |
14:20 |
hanbot |
http://thewhet.net/2012/shall-be-delivered/ << that? yeah. |
14:20 |
assbot |
Shall be Delivered | The Whet |
14:21 |
asciilifeform |
'shall be delivered' << imho the single most educational piece of crypto-related fiction ever written. |
14:21 |
asciilifeform |
belongs on the mandatory reading list for cultured people of the future, right next to 'the cold equations' |
14:23 |
hanbot |
ha! color me flattered |
14:24 |
hanbot |
mp oughta be goaded into making moar writing contests, they're fun |
14:25 |
thestringpuller |
It is national novel writing month |
14:26 |
asciilifeform |
that tale carries much of the blame for luring me into this den of vice. |
14:27 |
hanbot |
a far worthier prize then than that 5 btc! |
14:28 |
asciilifeform |
l0l |
14:29 |
thestringpuller |
the end of the story reminds me of scene from rashomon |
14:35 |
nubbins` |
nanowrimo |
14:36 |
thestringpuller |
^- yup. |
| |
~ 23 minutes ~ |
14:59 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.cs.umd.edu/class/fall2013/cmsc417/public/assignments/project_bitCoin.pdf << lol. 'yesterday's nobel prize is tomorrow's homework assignment.' |
15:02 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
15:10 |
mircea_popescu |
assbot: |
15:10 |
mircea_popescu |
Re: "done with consensus decisionmaking", "war", "rearguard battles" [was: Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling] << bwhahaha |
15:15 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, news at 11. it's not just bitcoin the shitgnomes are after, but the entire stack of software guaranteeing a free world. |
15:16 |
mircea_popescu |
therein included, stuff that merely promises the possibility of it, such as debian. |
15:16 |
asciilifeform |
news at 11 is exactly right. this has been going on for a long, long time, have to be blind not to see |
15:16 |
mircea_popescu |
leaving aside that nobody i ever knew was seriously using the newer debian releases anyway for any purpose, you';d have to be fucking insane to think the way this goes is, we kill their heartbleed and they sit and wait. |
15:17 |
mircea_popescu |
what happened here is exactly the equivalent of, "sniper got obama between the eyes with a shitbullet, while on conference with the security staff" |
15:17 |
mircea_popescu |
or, for that matter, the world trade center bombing. |
15:17 |
mircea_popescu |
the only thing the bureaucracy knows how to do, and can in fact do, is in the words of V, |
15:17 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: also must understand the 'good cop / bad cop' dynamic here. the buggers lure folks to their sugary 'imponade' (see naggum) by, among other things, sabotaging the rest of the universe |
15:18 |
mircea_popescu |
how did that go exactly, |
15:18 |
mircea_popescu |
Sutler: My fellow Englishmen: tonight our country, that which we stand for, and all we hold dear, faces a grave and terrible threat. This violent and unparalleled assault on our security will not go undefended... or unpunished. Our enemy is an insidious one, seeking to divide us and destroy the very foundation of our great nation. Tonight, we must remain steadfast. We must remain determined. But most of all, we must re |
15:18 |
mircea_popescu |
main united. Those caught tonight in violation of curfew will be considered in league with our enemy and prosecuted as a terrorist without leniency or exception. Tonight, I give you my most solemn vow: that justice will be swift, it will be righteous, and it will be without mercy. |
15:18 |
mircea_popescu |
there we go. |
15:18 |
mircea_popescu |
now, if it actually also worked, it may count for something. it doesn't work, so i guess it's good for lulz. |
15:19 |
asciilifeform |
lol! i actually saw that film for the first time a few days ago. |
15:19 |
mircea_popescu |
it's a pretty good filn. |
15:19 |
mircea_popescu |
so yeah, whatever, im so thoroughly impressed with the oh-so-almighty hb headshot response bitcoin went all the way up to 420 |
15:20 |
asciilifeform |
waterfall's being recharged as we speak. |
15:20 |
thestringpuller |
well waterfall no longer has use |
15:20 |
mircea_popescu |
nobody ever won a war by being stupid. |
15:21 |
asciilifeform |
all the 'sr2' et. al. schmucks are grunting in the cellars, confessing keys. |
15:21 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform it wasn't all that big. |
15:21 |
mircea_popescu |
it sounds impressive, but once the dust settled it became obvious what they got was something that everyone thought a scam and a cvouple of tiny ops |
15:21 |
mircea_popescu |
the two major marketplaces were unaffected |
15:21 |
mircea_popescu |
at least so teh intel tells me. |
15:22 |
mircea_popescu |
actual total loot, <2k. |
15:22 |
thestringpuller |
lol you have a spy ring now nao? |
15:22 |
asciilifeform |
2k << enough for small planetoid. |
15:22 |
mircea_popescu |
thestringpuller i have had a spyring from before satoshi had a clue on c |
15:23 |
thestringpuller |
tinker tailor soldier spy! |
15:25 |
mircea_popescu |
thestringpuller: |
15:25 |
mircea_popescu |
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2i6pz0/peter_todds_checklocktimeverify_means_bitcoin/ckzdetm << reddit isn't fully retarded << basically, they know they won't get away witrh a hard fork, trying to dissolve the "gavin is making a hardfork" issue into a seemingly better "everyone wants a hardfork, gavin's is just the one that emerged from the democratic hardforking process" |
15:25 |
assbot |
optimists comments on Peter Todd's CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY Means Bitcoin Escrow, Refunds and a Fork |
15:25 |
mircea_popescu |
which i suppose is long enough an intricacy that the retards won't be able to follow it. |
15:25 |
mircea_popescu |
the problem with this entire usg strat is that bitcoin never was and likely never will be for the retards. |
15:26 |
asciilifeform |
everyone wants... gavin's is just the one that emerged << precisely same verbiage as the pro-poettering useful idiots. vox derpuli, vox dei! |
15:26 |
mircea_popescu |
what they get or don't get is not material here. i understand that it's hard for politicos to look past pretty much their only asset, skill and ability, the herd. |
15:26 |
mircea_popescu |
nevertheless... |
15:26 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform right./ |
15:26 |
thestringpuller |
so this is all plan to get away with hard fork in future? |
15:27 |
mircea_popescu |
it's "political groundwork" or w/e you call it. |
15:27 |
mircea_popescu |
basically, feminism for code. |
15:28 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, they want a hardfork or five hundred, they can get it any time they feel ready. |
15:28 |
mircea_popescu |
but let it be clear that if we get that far i will paying for abducted and gangraped usg politico daughters, and putting the videos online. |
15:29 |
thestringpuller |
i would assume no less. it would seem though that in the future commandment 1 of bitcoin would be: |
15:29 |
mircea_popescu |
ex-powerful, now irrelevant duke derping around the corners of the new order, whining pathetic is one thing. raising actual banners to, that's beheading. |
15:29 |
thestringpuller |
"Thou shalt not hardfork" |
15:31 |
mircea_popescu |
in case this wasn't entirely clear : the foregoing has little to do with todd personally. |
15:31 |
mircea_popescu |
at issue is the gavinesque/redditarded interpretation of what's being proposed, especially in the "how to implement" side. |
15:31 |
thestringpuller |
he does seem too "dull" to have his own agenda. |
15:33 |
thestringpuller |
i just find it fascinating that the percent of redditards against any hard fork is going up by a lot. |
15:33 |
mircea_popescu |
-/** Threshold for nLockTime: below this value it is interpreted as block number, otherwise as UNIX timestamp. */ |
15:33 |
mircea_popescu |
67-static const unsigned int LOCKTIME_THRESHOLD = 500000000; // Tue Nov 5 00:53:20 1985 UTC |
15:33 |
mircea_popescu |
random lulz. |
15:33 |
mircea_popescu |
because magic numbers and stuff. |
15:34 |
thestringpuller |
too many to count |
15:34 |
mircea_popescu |
nobody knows why not make it 1bn lol. |
15:34 |
thestringpuller |
why ask for billions when you can get millions? |
15:34 |
mircea_popescu |
it passed in 2001, it would allow sane biteshifts etc. |
15:37 |
mircea_popescu |
sheeeit, i paid ppl 5 btc to write stories ? |
15:37 |
mircea_popescu |
truely i am a broken hand in the chest of bitcoins. |
15:38 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform speaking of nobel prizes, god help us if satoshi ends up awarded the nobel for chemistry and gavin dressed up as princess leila |
15:38 |
mircea_popescu |
shows up to receive it. |
15:40 |
mircea_popescu |
by the way, since BingoBoingo brought up methotrexate earlier : |
15:41 |
thestringpuller |
princess leia* (sorry) |
15:42 |
mircea_popescu |
this thing works as a highly afine for folate that locks out dfhr, impeding tetrahydrofolic acid synthesis, without which you can't have a nucleus, or many proteins. |
15:42 |
mircea_popescu |
back in the 50s, aminopterin was discovered, which does exactly that, and was used to treat leukemia |
15:42 |
mircea_popescu |
(and other things offlabel, like psoriasis) |
15:43 |
mircea_popescu |
the company that marketed it also marketed amethopterin, which is in many ways similar. |
15:44 |
mircea_popescu |
soon enough the production of the former was judged too expensive, the latter was rebranded as methotrexate, and a history of "bad side effects" and other fud was created retroactively for aminopterin. |
15:44 |
mircea_popescu |
as the patents are starting to expire now, the secret everyone know "is being investigated" : aminopterin is actually more effectual in the role of folate synthesis blocker, perhaps not just in the case of leukemia. |
15:45 |
asciilifeform |
folks who are n00bs re: pharma racket - the above is SOP. |
15:45 |
mircea_popescu |
and this is all okay, because well... science. |
15:45 |
mircea_popescu |
so then you know, your average thinking person gets really upset once they hear about the entire "global warming" scam, |
15:46 |
mircea_popescu |
and the people in the game are really amazed by the reaction. "what's the big deal ? we've been doing this forever nobody complained ?" |
15:46 |
mircea_popescu |
well... |
15:46 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform yes, which is why i'm writing it out. easily verified, completely unfamiliar to the general public. |
15:50 |
mircea_popescu |
and since we're on it, methotrexate is used as an abortifacent, notwithstanding that ethacridine lactate is cheaper, can be used without needing a hospital visit and much safer. |
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15:50 |
mircea_popescu |
the parts "cheap" "can be self administered" somehow override "safer" in this construction. |
15:52 |
mircea_popescu |
who could pass up on some liver damage for the holy cause of keeping the insides of one's body away from themselves. |
16:05 |
jurov |
$proxies |
16:05 |
empyex |
jurov: Proxies: mpex.biz mpex.co mpex.ws mpex.bz mpex.coinbr.com Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91 |
16:05 |
empyex |
jurov: MPEx-Status: mpex.biz (107 milliseconds), mpex.ws (107 milliseconds), mpex.bz (107 milliseconds), mpex.co (114 milliseconds), mpex.coinbr.com (474 milliseconds) |
16:05 |
empyex |
jurov: Health-Indicators: Homepage: √ MK Depth JSON: √ VWAP JSON: √ |
16:10 |
jurov |
mircea_popescu: http://mpex.ws/db_dump.php and commands don't work |
16:11 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov looking into it. |
16:11 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov http://mpex.co/db_dump.php you see that ? |
16:12 |
mircea_popescu |
.ws seems to have divorced itself from the mothership |
16:12 |
jurov |
yes, it's limited to mpex.ws |
16:12 |
jurov |
will also mail you anoother problem ina minute |
16:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 230104 @ 0.00064071 = 147.4299 BTC [+] {9} |
16:22 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 101800 @ 0.00063753 = 64.9006 BTC [-] {7} |
16:23 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 137208 @ 0.00064302 = 88.2275 BTC [+] {10} |
16:24 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 167487 @ 0.00064265 = 107.6355 BTC [-] {7} |
16:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 124972 @ 0.00064056 = 80.0521 BTC [-] {8} |
16:26 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39807 @ 0.00064749 = 25.7746 BTC [+] {2} |
16:30 |
punkman |
!up Flyer9933 |
16:32 |
punkman |
!up menahem |
16:39 |
jurov |
<asciilifeform> jurov: patches << http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/patches.html >> 404 << because you haven't sent any. it will get generated when you send them |
16:40 |
assbot |
jborkl_ +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 |
16:40 |
mircea_popescu |
!up jborkl_ |
16:40 |
jborkl_ |
thank you |
16:40 |
asciilifeform |
you send them << wai me? |
16:43 |
nubbins` |
why do i have to send the letter, i wrote the damn thing |
16:46 |
jurov |
i can send the patches myself but did not looked into them yet |
16:46 |
jurov |
so just posting them with my sig would be rather bad precedent |
16:46 |
mircea_popescu |
omg it sends the letter or it gets the hose again |
16:47 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: i signed my patches. so if sent, from whatever addr, they should be displayed. (with note that one user signed.) |
16:47 |
ben_vulpes |
rather bad form. |
16:47 |
jurov |
and where are they? |
16:47 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: once someone (you, ben_vulpes, whoever) reads them - can also sign, and display will read 'two people signed...' |
16:48 |
mircea_popescu |
he has a point here. asciilifeform so where are they again ? |
16:48 |
jurov |
yes this is how i fucking did it |
16:48 |
jurov |
it jsut needs to be fed the fuking emails |
16:48 |
jurov |
okay? |
16:48 |
asciilifeform |
where are they << http://therealbitcoin.org |
16:49 |
mircea_popescu |
ok, dun get jurov angry, email the stuff lol |
16:52 |
nubbins` |
do you have any idea how much stamps cost these days |
16:52 |
jborkl_ |
I was looking for any practical advice on monetizing my site, did not know if any of you had some (advice) on this matter? |
16:54 |
mike_c |
jborkl_: throw up a bitbet ad with your referral address. |
16:54 |
nubbins` |
ooo i just found 100 sheets of paper i didn't know i had |
16:55 |
nubbins` |
scoopbot what's the scoop |
16:55 |
jborkl_ |
i tries adsense for a week, did not like that. So the idea ben vulpes had was right on target but I am not sure if that is ongoing? ok, thankd mike_c |
16:56 |
jborkl_ |
thanks |
16:56 |
asciilifeform |
sent a patch to turdatron. no worky. |
16:56 |
mike_c |
referral money is simply CPA instead of CPM (actions instead of clicks). it should do as well as traditional ads, and likely better given you don't have an ad sales team. |
16:57 |
asciilifeform |
this is getting rather tiresome. |
16:57 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` 55c ? |
16:58 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform what did it say if anything ? |
16:58 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: as far as i can see - it merely disappeared into the aether. |
16:58 |
jborkl_ |
yeah, I have the chicken and the egg problem. Now I have traffic, but not know what to do with it. I concentrated so much on making it all and writing the code, I never thought what was next |
17:08 |
jurov |
asciilifeform: thanks, i need something to chew on. apparently mailman mangled the patch before saving to archive |
17:08 |
jurov |
but if you received it by email, signature is okay |
17:09 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: i received nothing, i thought that was clear. |
17:09 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: sent message, correctly formatted, patch and patch sig attached, nothing happened. |
17:09 |
jurov |
are you registered? |
17:09 |
jurov |
without registration it's send only |
17:10 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: ok, registered now. |
17:12 |
jurov |
ok. you can send other ones |
17:12 |
jurov |
that damned stuff just decided to snip newline in the end of file before archiving |
17:12 |
jurov |
and then declared signature invalid |
17:13 |
jurov |
*end of patch |
17:13 |
cazalla |
jborkl_, have you considered writing for qntra? |
17:13 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: sent again - no dice? |
17:13 |
cazalla |
!up jborkl_ |
17:14 |
jurov |
no i did not fix it yet. but at least it's here: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2014-November/000010.html |
17:15 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: and why not here: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2014-November/thread.html ? |
17:15 |
assbot |
The BTC-dev November 2014 Archive by thread |
17:15 |
jurov |
overly eager caching |
17:15 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: caching? |
17:15 |
jurov |
looking into it |
17:16 |
jurov |
i have put amazon TurdFront (r) (tm) in front of it |
17:16 |
jurov |
it already helped the site to survive aone ddos without anyone noticing |
17:17 |
jurov |
but i'll thry to configure the timeouts shorter |
17:17 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: nothing in my email either. |
17:18 |
jurov |
mhm i got both... looked into spam? |
17:18 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: yes looked. |
17:21 |
jurov |
postfix/smtp[9200]: 5DA58147C: to=<stas@loper-os.org>, relay=mx-fwd-1.nearlyfreespeech.net[208.94.116.196]:25, delay=2.1, delays=0.21/0/0.46/1.4, dsn=2.6.0, status=sent (250 2.6.0 from MTA(smtp:[127.0.0.1]:10027): 250 Queued on server) |
17:21 |
jurov |
... |
17:21 |
jurov |
nsa intercepted it |
17:21 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: my mailbox is not at fault, it works for everyone else. |
17:22 |
jurov |
i don't parse this |
17:22 |
jurov |
you mean it works for everything else? |
17:22 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: problem is 100% on your end. |
17:23 |
jurov |
that's incredibly helpful, thanks |
17:23 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: that, or we don't have a working internet yet. |
17:25 |
jurov |
i'm out of ideas. maybe it got greylisted but then the log would say sth else |
17:27 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov it shows your own emails but not his ? |
17:28 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: i don't have any fancy filtration on my end |
17:28 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: but so far the results are not encouraging. email doesn't really work! |
17:28 |
jurov |
mx-fwd-1.nearlyfreespeech.net isn't your machine? |
17:28 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform in its defense, email hasn't really worked for ~40 years now. |
17:28 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: it's a relayer, but it has never failed. not once. |
17:31 |
mircea_popescu |
vaguely related, how long you been using these guys ? do you know em ? |
17:32 |
mircea_popescu |
!up novusordo |
17:32 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: i've been using that hoster since starting my site, >7yrs. ago. they're absolutely super. the cost is virtually unbeatable for low-traffic, simple sites. and, on top of this, almost wholly ddos-proof. |
17:32 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: afaik they only eat usd however. |
17:33 |
mircea_popescu |
a) do you know them ? and b) can they be lured or strongarmed into taking bitcoin ? |
17:33 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: i don't know them alive, no. but it is entirely possible that they could be lured. it's a small family op, afaik. |
17:34 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform write to the owner/admin/whatever ticket system you use, tell him that i am offering $100 in bitcoin if they as much as show up here, to claim it. |
17:34 |
mircea_popescu |
that can't possibly take em an hour. |
17:34 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: i learned of them when looked for a hoster that specializes in censor resistance (through traditional legal-wrangling, rather than fancy tech. it was another age.) |
17:35 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: i shall write. |
17:35 |
novusordo |
asciilifeform: what hoster are you discussing? been looking for one myself. |
17:35 |
mircea_popescu |
novusordo https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/about/ |
17:35 |
assbot |
About NearlyFreeSpeech.NET |
17:35 |
asciilifeform |
novusordo: 'nearly free speech' |
17:35 |
novusordo |
thanks |
17:35 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, i must say i am thankful to the "experts". they've got the rot so advanced by now it's sufficient to look at a site and know you're dealing with actual experts. |
17:35 |
mircea_popescu |
greatly simplifies the process and saves me a bundle of moneyz this. |
17:42 |
novusordo |
after reading some of the FAQ it sounds like they follow much of the same philosophy as tarsnap. |
17:44 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: wrote letter. |
17:44 |
mircea_popescu |
danke. |
17:44 |
mircea_popescu |
novusordo i thought that was a backup solution |
17:44 |
mircea_popescu |
but speaking of which... it does sort-of tie into yest discussion asciilifeform |
17:45 |
mircea_popescu |
how about something like tarsnap ? |
17:45 |
novusordo |
yeah it is a backup solution |
17:45 |
novusordo |
not hosting |
17:45 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: tarsnap isn't really a public access gizmo |
17:45 |
novusordo |
but by same philosophy I meant in pricing |
17:45 |
novusordo |
pay-for-what-you-use |
17:45 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform but neither is bitcoin. |
17:46 |
mircea_popescu |
as long as it's an anon expert access gizmo, it should qualify neh ? |
17:46 |
mircea_popescu |
"public access" is a myth, of the same substance as the man-month. |
17:47 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: what i meant was, that it offers no useful mechanisms for anything other than, well, making ordinary backups for own use. |
17:47 |
scoopbot |
New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2014/11/bnp-paribas-five-ways-bitcoin-could-shake-up-finance/ |
17:47 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: if you have some notion of how to transmute that into a solution to yesterday's conundrum - i'm all ears. |
17:49 |
mircea_popescu |
i guess my idea reduces to "paint a brick black and pray to it" huh. |
17:49 |
mircea_popescu |
a well. |
17:51 |
The20YearIRCloud |
Looks like we (RentalStarter) are in contract for two more homes, putting our total to 12 properties / 17 units |
17:52 |
Apocalyptic |
cazalla, re your article, "once regulators and politicians control and enable the continued development of Bitcoin", they can't be that clueless, how the hell do they hope to "control the continued development" ? by sending a gavin-bis ? |
17:52 |
scoopbot |
New post on Qntra.net by thestringpuller: http://qntra.net/2014/11/ethereums-contract-language-implemented-on-the-bitcoin-blockchain-with-counterparty/ |
17:53 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/about/belief2002 |
17:53 |
mircea_popescu |
Apocalyptic lulz gotta lulz. |
17:54 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla did you mean to say "the article is trying to push the humorous theory" instead of "concludes" ? |
17:55 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform nice blast from teh past huh. |
17:56 |
Apocalyptic |
mircea_popescu, that's a much better formulation |
17:57 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=XwwiZPPa |
17:59 |
mircea_popescu |
you must be logged in to access this area.... |
18:00 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/bQyAKJqY << here. |
18:00 |
assbot |
NearlyFreeSpeech.NET Forum IndexMember Support Forums SearchSearch Regi - Pastebin.com |
18:00 |
mircea_popescu |
lol 10k ? |
18:01 |
mircea_popescu |
a well. |
18:01 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: the sad part is, they have a point. they can't eat it. |
18:01 |
mircea_popescu |
they can't eat it, they can't leave. |
18:01 |
mircea_popescu |
i also have a point. |
18:01 |
mircea_popescu |
live* |
18:02 |
mircea_popescu |
but i'll make sure to charge a mango my digestion fees next i run into one. |
18:02 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: mango happily pays. that's what digestion is all about. |
18:02 |
mircea_popescu |
so did i. well, up until 5 minutes ago. |
18:03 |
mircea_popescu |
as a matter of policy, it will now cost these guys 10k to get any of my business, and if they ever get into the wot i'll negrate them right off. |
18:04 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: lol. why the emotion. the article told the sad truth: 'We have nothing to spend bitcoins on...' |
18:04 |
mircea_popescu |
no emotion. i am telling the sad truth just as much : adapt or die. |
18:05 |
mircea_popescu |
bitcoin is not here asking random derp some favours. no matter who the derp thinks he is. |
18:05 |
mircea_popescu |
bitcoin is his lifeline. pass on it, well... death. |
18:06 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: this death is a collective one. or, go try to tell the nearly free speech folks how to get their upstream isp to take btc, and where to get spare disks and pizza for it, and in such a way that it doesn't immediately end up in the waterfall, etc. |
18:06 |
mircea_popescu |
color me a color that connotes caring. |
18:07 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31228 @ 0.00056414 = 17.617 BTC [-] {2} |
18:07 |
mircea_popescu |
im sure the mango is going to want to talk to the upstream enzymes about matters too ? |
18:07 |
undata |
asciilifeform: so sell out when you receive them via derpbase? |
18:07 |
thestringpuller |
asciilifeform: how do you buy things with btc that don't end up in the waterfall? |
18:07 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: no one was asked to care, but trying to explain here that folks are sizzling in an electric chair not necessarily of their own making, rather than simple death through individual folly |
18:07 |
mircea_popescu |
thestringpuller actually, here's a fun notion : outside of trilema credits, pretty much everything is really just facelifted paypal. |
18:07 |
mircea_popescu |
so in a sense, i'm the one thing supporting this here bitcoin economy. |
18:07 |
cazalla |
Apocalyptic, mircea_popescu, i will go cry in the corner and rethink my approach |
18:08 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform nah, it's their folly. |
18:08 |
mircea_popescu |
many smart people suffer from the what's his face mental issues |
18:08 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: care to draw a simple picture of what you'd do in their place ? |
18:08 |
mircea_popescu |
jesus, who was the electrician turned expert in physics again ? |
18:09 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: tesla? |
18:09 |
thestringpuller |
mircea_popescu: seems the only option is the swap coins with someone who isn't going to put them in the waterfall :P |
18:09 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform either take the hundred offer or go to war. |
18:09 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform nah nah brb digging archives |
18:09 |
mircea_popescu |
;;google site:trilema.com how to fail |
18:09 |
gribble |
How to fail - the Scott Locklin method. pe Trilema - Un blog de ...: <http://trilema.com/2013/how-to-fail-the-scott-locklin-method/>; It's been an epic few days: What happened? pe Trilema - Un blog de ...: <http://trilema.com/2013/its-been-an-epic-few-days-what-happened/>; In defense of the troll pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/in-defense-of-the- (1 more message) |
18:09 |
mircea_popescu |
there we go. |
18:10 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: physics student turned electrician (experimental physics) turned 'quant' aha. |
18:10 |
mircea_popescu |
"oh i am great and speshul and what is this thing" |
18:10 |
mircea_popescu |
should be in the dsm-6, this,. |
18:10 |
mircea_popescu |
"thought bitcoin is some sort of optional thing like widescreen tvs or some shit" |
18:11 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: that is still not how i read that one. it was more of a 'what is this martian trinary computer, where can i plug it in? with what sauce can i eat it'. and iirc that was your own initial reaction in '11. |
18:11 |
mircea_popescu |
my reaction was subtly but essentialy different. it was "how do you expect this to work ?" |
18:12 |
mircea_popescu |
cue me in 2011 going "sorry, but unless you folks do my homework for me bitcoin sucks. i got math and rom lit." |
18:12 |
mircea_popescu |
and in any effect, i most motherfucking DEFINITELY did what told, by the people who knew |
18:12 |
mircea_popescu |
rather than try to conjure up imaginary molehils of secure superiority to take refuge upon. |
18:15 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: my reaction just now was 'why won't they show up and at least talk' but then realized that this may be the flip side of the medal, so to speak, of the same conservative thinking that ultimately made n.f.s. co. even interesting in the first place (they've resisted every known variety of crud) |
18:15 |
mircea_popescu |
no argument. |
18:15 |
mircea_popescu |
this is a major blindspot of the conservative mindset : rigidity. |
18:15 |
mircea_popescu |
the fact that the spots go on the cheetah as part of what it is saved no cheetah to date. |
18:16 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: but brings back to the fact that usaschwitz is a thing. if i presently had to rely on btc for anything life-sustaining, i'd be quite dead. |
18:16 |
mircea_popescu |
yet here you are. |
18:16 |
mircea_popescu |
somehow you're of worse human quality than jeff is the argument here ? |
18:16 |
mircea_popescu |
it's ok for you but too much to ask of him ? |
18:16 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: death is a hard boundary for experiments. once dead, no 'let's try this differently' |
18:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48555 @ 0.00056475 = 27.4214 BTC [+] {2} |
18:17 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: i weigh less than an isp/hoster/restaurant/etc. yes. |
18:17 |
mircea_popescu |
plenty of people manage to juggle a wife and a job and an insane government and still be here. i'm not one of them, as it happens, but that's neither here nor there : to condone jeffidiocy would be more of an insult to their otherwise unguilty face than i can stomach. |
18:19 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: fact is, i and the other jugglers - find ways to hoover up enough usd to pay the usd-eaters in. |
18:20 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.0005676 = 3.4056 BTC [+] |
18:22 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: moving a functioning usd-fueled business to btc - other matter. especially if you're sensitive about not wishing to fatten vultures. |
18:23 |
mircea_popescu |
you can still take a quarter. |
18:24 |
mircea_popescu |
fuck, maybe the people throwing away quarters know all about n answers you can't find on your own. |
18:24 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: can't really argue that 'no we won't even talk' was a correct answer. but i do understand how a n00b might associate bitcoin as-a-concept with the derps and sp4mz0rs. |
18:25 |
mircea_popescu |
but no, because conservative mindset depends on random derp being the king of all creation. which works about as well as you'd expect, boring in the bedroom, offensive in the forum, etc. |
18:26 |
mircea_popescu |
i can also understand how half the heads populating pikes around the stronghold used to be attached to people who didn't mean to. |
18:26 |
mircea_popescu |
what's that do for us ? |
18:27 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: if there's a psychiatric lesson here, it is that resisting crud is not necessarily from cleverness, but could also be on account of being a goat herder in afghanistan and what even is all this recycled food. |
18:27 |
mircea_popescu |
surely. |
18:28 |
mircea_popescu |
which is why distinction is so important and processes that enact it so useful. |
18:28 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: one could also hypothesize again about 'married men' and who can or cannot afford to take what risk, etc. |
18:29 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, my takeaway is that firmness is a quality, but rigidity a sin. the boob rule : good if made out of young woman, bad if made out of bone. |
18:29 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: and the remaining lesson, possibly, is that we are still without a general-purpose btc-powered hoster. |
18:30 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe PinkPosixPXE chick gets her dusts in a row. |
18:34 |
mircea_popescu |
!up hank_ |
18:37 |
thestringpuller |
asciilifeform: i picked out an XMas present for you early. |
18:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33941 @ 0.0005676 = 19.2649 BTC [+] |
18:46 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53817 @ 0.00056186 = 30.2376 BTC [-] |
18:48 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: Of course all of those agents were found because after seeing folate's role in cell synthesis, feeding a bunch of leukemias high dose folate was assumed to be the way. It helped the cancer so much! |
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19:05 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AMHASH2] 17183 @ 0.0012 = 20.6196 BTC |
19:19 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00056001 = 6.9441 BTC [-] |
19:22 |
mike_c |
just in case it's helpful, i was seeing some wonkiness with mpex.ws last night too but didn't have time to debug. so the problem may be 24+ hours old. |
19:25 |
mircea_popescu |
just about. |
19:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33900 @ 0.00056001 = 18.9843 BTC [-] |
19:36 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13378 @ 0.00055966 = 7.4871 BTC [-] {2} |
19:38 |
mircea_popescu |
notary deed http://pastebin.com/CXcwTz7S |
19:38 |
assbot |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Your dividend payment for S. - Pastebin.com |
19:38 |
notary |
mircea_popescu: Queued 1 valid deed for next bundle. |
19:47 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo heh myeah. |
19:47 |
mircea_popescu |
medicine is a... strongly experimental science. |
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20:22 |
cazalla |
BingoBoingo: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0065.mediawiki <<< anyone care to provide thoughts on whether this is a good or bad thing? |
20:22 |
assbot |
bips/bip-0065.mediawiki at master · bitcoin/bips · GitHub |
20:23 |
BingoBoingo |
On it's own it's a naive thing, but the conversation around it will lead to bad things as it will probably lead to hard fork talk to set the stage for the blocksize increase discussion. |
20:24 |
cazalla |
there you go thestringpuller, i was almost right |
20:24 |
cazalla |
well, on target |
20:34 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13607 @ 0.00056017 = 7.6222 BTC [+] |
20:34 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: http://imgur.com/Bn88rOZ |
20:34 |
assbot |
asciilifeform's mail - Imgur |
20:40 |
dub |
1% losses for shareholders on s.wol is one interpretation |
20:41 |
dub |
i think its worth noting that for eveyone other than mp and mike it was a 50-80% loss |
20:46 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: bip-0065 << classic 'relevance farming.' the phoundation will take any excuse to add cruft to the gizmo. in their fantasy, folks will use it, and those who have resisted their turds will be forced to merge in. |
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20:47 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: the great fork war is inevitable. and we know what is on their side of the line. but what is on the other? the miners' mystery forks? our gadget, that doesn't even load the blockchain? |
20:49 |
BingoBoingo |
The Manul's greatest asset in combat is that through the fur, an adversary can not tell from where on the moving limbs the claws will emerge |
20:50 |
asciilifeform |
!s in the game of chess you must never |
20:50 |
assbot |
1 results for 'in the game of chess you must never' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=in+the+game+of+chess+you+must+never |
20:53 |
BingoBoingo |
Well, that's why I prefer playing as black and starting with small pawn moves. Harder for the opponent to see in the dark. |
20:54 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform ahahaha wow. |
20:54 |
mircea_popescu |
was it read ? |
20:54 |
asciilifeform |
i only just now opened it! |
20:55 |
asciilifeform |
and more mysteries: |
20:55 |
asciilifeform |
http://imgur.com/KunZAwf |
20:55 |
assbot |
imgur: the simple image sharer |
20:55 |
mircea_popescu |
i mean b4 |
20:55 |
mircea_popescu |
is it used ? |
20:55 |
asciilifeform |
why isbn is shit... |
20:55 |
asciilifeform |
and why is 'zenofeller.com' now a linkpharm? |
20:55 |
asciilifeform |
book was clearly thumbed |
20:55 |
asciilifeform |
and has a most peculiar smell, like old turkish bubble-gum |
20:56 |
asciilifeform |
faint but detectable. |
20:57 |
mircea_popescu |
ha! |
20:57 |
mircea_popescu |
lol you can read leetspeak nao ? |
20:58 |
asciilifeform |
n3v3r |
20:58 |
* |
asciilifeform admits he parsed 'b4' as half a chess tuple |
20:58 |
asciilifeform |
but that's BingoBoingo's fault |
20:59 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
20:59 |
asciilifeform |
at any rate, chukcha is a writer not reader. |
20:59 |
mircea_popescu |
!t m s.wol |
20:59 |
assbot |
[MPEX:S.WOL] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.000086 / 0.000086 / 0.000086 (2 shares, 0.00 BTC) |
21:00 |
mircea_popescu |
hm lessee here. |
21:01 |
mircea_popescu |
dub total satoshsi : 2129446090 total shares 525903 |
21:01 |
mircea_popescu |
that means an average lifetime price of 4k, it closed at ~3k. |
21:02 |
mircea_popescu |
that aside, mp and mike sold what was it, 5 btc worth at 3k. |
21:03 |
mircea_popescu |
that leaves a 16 btc worth of volume, which was exactly half making a gain while exactly the other half made a loss. |
21:04 |
mircea_popescu |
kinda how this entire trading thing goes. |
21:08 |
mircea_popescu |
<asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: the great fork war is inevitable. and we know what is on their side of the line. << do tell ? |
21:08 |
mircea_popescu |
what was on "their" side of the line keeping skirts below the knee ? |
21:08 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: on their side - presumably, the turd. |
21:08 |
asciilifeform |
their turd. |
21:08 |
mircea_popescu |
the jeff of 1950 knew all about how computers "won't catch on" |
21:08 |
mircea_popescu |
there's never anything on their side of the line is the thing. |
21:10 |
* |
mircea_popescu remembers a time "the line" was, you gotta raise a woman's kids to get laid and you gotta pay a hooker to get your cock sucked. |
21:10 |
mircea_popescu |
worked so admirably well, teh line. |
21:11 |
asciilifeform |
did not say 'they' win. said - there shall be war. |
21:11 |
mircea_popescu |
after a fashion. |
21:11 |
mircea_popescu |
but yes. definitely. |
21:12 |
* |
asciilifeform armchair admiral, and cannot presume to know what sort of war, fought with what |
21:12 |
mircea_popescu |
would be a sore loss to win without a war. instead of a solid enjoyment of rape and plunder, do not pass go, directly to the trudge of administration ? |
21:12 |
mircea_popescu |
fuck that. |
21:12 |
mircea_popescu |
war is generally the best part. |
21:12 |
asciilifeform |
at any rate, 'jeff of 1950' was not entirely wrong; computers have yet to really catch on... |
21:13 |
mircea_popescu |
ofcourse. |
21:13 |
mircea_popescu |
which is why either he has one or his kids want one for xmas. |
21:14 |
mircea_popescu |
!up Vexual |
21:15 |
Vexual |
thanks for the link to your blogpost mp, not I know what I sound like 3 force drunk |
21:15 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
21:17 |
Vexual |
what happened with wol? |
21:18 |
Vexual |
all the players died from seizures or something? |
21:18 |
mircea_popescu |
it got no love |
21:19 |
BingoBoingo |
It's parimutuel model was prolly too fair in pricing |
21:22 |
undata |
asciilifeform | at any rate, 'jeff of 1950' was not entirely wrong; computers have yet to really catch on... << this printing thing hasn't really caught on yet; all they're printing are more bibles |
21:31 |
BingoBoingo |
http://theweek.com/article/index/271644/its-time-to-abolish-the-interstate-highway-system |
21:31 |
assbot |
It's time to abolish the Interstate Highway System - The Week |
21:34 |
nubbins` |
<The20YearIRCloud> Looks like we (RentalStarter) are in contract for two more homes, putting our total to 12 properties / 17 units |
21:34 |
BingoBoingo |
^ The TLDR, shift some bezzel around and make it easier for the US to partition further |
21:34 |
nubbins` |
at this rate you'll have the first poster given away in no time 8) |
21:34 |
The20YearIRCloud |
already given away a few of em nubbins` |
21:35 |
nubbins` |
i eagerly await pictures |
21:35 |
The20YearIRCloud |
i gave em instructions |
21:35 |
nubbins` |
fwiw i think they'd have been better served given to people who we'd like to see in here, but hey, i'm just the printer 8) |
21:35 |
nubbins` |
and i guess taleb's mailing address is hard to find. |
21:36 |
Vexual |
send it to his publisher |
21:36 |
The20YearIRCloud |
I wanted to run a contest and give a few away to non-tenants, as they'd likely have much more of a desire for em |
21:36 |
The20YearIRCloud |
most of our tenants don't have PCs |
21:37 |
BingoBoingo |
;;ticker |
21:37 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 431.29, Best ask: 431.94, Bid-ask spread: 0.65000, Last trade: 431.94, 24 hour volume: 45124.17445036, 24 hour low: 375.97, 24 hour high: 434.8, 24 hour vwap: 408.121751826 |
21:37 |
BingoBoingo |
What about lacquering them onto the doors? |
21:37 |
The20YearIRCloud |
lol, that could be interesting |
21:43 |
asciilifeform |
most of our tenants don't have PCs << wai wat |
21:43 |
Vexual |
yeah, that got me too |
21:44 |
asciilifeform |
they are paying in btc without computer ? |
21:44 |
Vexual |
paper moeny |
21:46 |
The20YearIRCloud |
Money, cash, cashier's checks, checks, ect, no one so far has ever heard of BTC, along with most not having access to a computer |
21:47 |
asciilifeform |
The20YearIRCloud: where does the btc come in then |
21:47 |
* |
asciilifeform thought 'rentalstarter' was a btc thing |
21:47 |
The20YearIRCloud |
tenants pay in USD |
21:48 |
The20YearIRCloud |
otherwise we'd be broke |
21:48 |
mircea_popescu |
"T |
21:48 |
mircea_popescu |
he 114th Congress may seem like an unlikely source of major reform. With the Republicans in control of both houses and a second-term Democratic president wielding the veto pen" |
21:48 |
mircea_popescu |
ahem. yeah it's a likely source of major fucking reform. |
21:48 |
mircea_popescu |
consisting principally of throwing out 80 years of accumulated gunk masquerading as "reform" |
21:48 |
mircea_popescu |
from delano to obama, a bridge of shit. |
21:49 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: I finished 17 moments of spring, thanks for the recommendation. It was an interesting show |
21:49 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: from delano to obama << 'от ильича до ильича' |
21:49 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: aha |
21:49 |
decimation |
mircea_popescu: in the us it is customary to label any policy whatsoever as 'reform' |
21:51 |
mircea_popescu |
my point exactly. |
21:51 |
decimation |
like the national assembly in revolutionary france, congress feels that they can make policy about anything whatsoever |
21:52 |
* |
asciilifeform would love to read a collection of all the u.s. federal laws that claim extraterritoriality. |
21:52 |
mircea_popescu |
^ |
21:52 |
asciilifeform |
i can remember a few - the one with the flag-less submarines, and the one forbidding any biped on planet 3 from working on nukes without u.s. blessing |
21:52 |
mircea_popescu |
that us libtards gave themselves and in their own mind some sort of major role in the world is novel. |
21:53 |
decimation |
the first one that comes to mind are the 'foreign banking' laws w.r.t. us citizens |
21:53 |
asciilifeform |
citizens - yes. i was thinking of other |
21:53 |
mircea_popescu |
for most of its history, the us knew better, an saw itself as a minor player. |
21:53 |
asciilifeform |
that is, there are actually laws on the books which specifically say 'anyone, anywhere, whether he even knows we exist' |
21:54 |
decimation |
another famous one is the law that bans illegal wood harvest anywhere in the world |
21:54 |
decimation |
the 'lacey act' |
21:55 |
The20YearIRCloud |
poor gibson guitars :( |
21:55 |
decimation |
yep |
21:56 |
decimation |
in the early constitution era it was thought that congress was limited to passing laws about things that were actually mentioned in their charter in the constitution |
21:56 |
decimation |
lincoln and then fdr removed that restriction |
21:56 |
mircea_popescu |
" If we could even get ourselves down to a Western European level of car dependence, we would cut road fatalities to a third of their present value and improve our quality of life in innumerable ways." |
21:56 |
mircea_popescu |
yah lol. how to become europe ? "insert toll roads" |
21:56 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2285 |
21:56 |
assbot |
18 U.S. Code § 2285 - Operation of submersible vessel or semi-submersible vessel without nationality | LII / Legal Information Institute |
21:56 |
mircea_popescu |
totally. i like thios reasoning. |
21:56 |
asciilifeform |
^ submarines |
21:57 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe the author could be come a girl by selling lipstick. |
21:57 |
decimation |
mircea_popescu: usians hate the idea of paying for roads |
21:57 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform that's hardly noteworthy. for as long as navigation was a thing, navigating without a banner meant being an outlaw. |
21:58 |
asciilifeform |
u.s. navy sub - also outlaw? |
21:58 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation point being, europe is europe because it's europe, not because some kansas kids decided to wear bedsheets once and poof. |
21:58 |
decimation |
yeah actually I agree with that law |
21:58 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform if it goes without a banner, yes. |
21:58 |
asciilifeform |
banner underwater? |
21:58 |
decimation |
hehe |
21:59 |
BingoBoingo |
!Up cascadian_derper |
21:59 |
decimation |
mircea_popescu: yeah, but there's something lacking in the us - they can't seem to believe that they have their own culture and avoid trying to make one |
21:59 |
mircea_popescu |
well, "banner" |
21:59 |
cascadian_derper |
ah lovely someone's watching |
21:59 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation who has his own culture you mean ? |
21:59 |
decimation |
well, kansas for instance |
22:00 |
mircea_popescu |
i dun see it. |
22:00 |
cascadian_derper |
thanks for participating in my live fire, bb |
22:00 |
mircea_popescu |
kansas culture = "move to ny, for a better life" + "check out the corn!!1" |
22:00 |
decimation |
they actually do have a culture, it is just roundly rejected by every elite with a printing press |
22:00 |
mircea_popescu |
well ? |
22:00 |
mircea_popescu |
what is this then, folklore ? |
22:00 |
mircea_popescu |
!up Derp |
22:01 |
mircea_popescu |
the us may only have a folklore after 2276. |
22:01 |
mircea_popescu |
check back in 1/4 millenium. |
22:01 |
decimation |
yeah, it'll be viva la reconquista |
22:02 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/47a << mega-lol |
22:02 |
assbot |
50 U.S. Code § 47a - Information concerning illegal introduction, manufacture, acquisition or export of special nuclear material or atomic weapons or conspiracies relating thereto; reward | LII / Legal Information Institute |
22:03 |
decimation |
I think that the low country "jante law" culture is one of the things that provides an impetus to the lack of us folklore/home culture |
22:03 |
cascadian_derper |
.deed http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=f8nwfQx1 |
22:03 |
notary |
cascadian_derper: Queued 1 valid deed for next bundle. |
22:04 |
mircea_popescu |
it's just too damned young. |
22:04 |
decimation |
yeah that's true |
22:05 |
decimation |
plus, the radical egalitarianism is like an acid that dissolves the nascent culture before it begins |
22:05 |
ben_vulpes |
nah just polishing off a bottle of champagne in the office |
22:05 |
ben_vulpes |
whoop |
22:05 |
ben_vulpes |
wrong channel, perdon |
22:06 |
hanbot |
wrong channel, perignon << ftfy |
22:07 |
decimation |
heh |
22:07 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation this is not true. |
22:07 |
mircea_popescu |
the russians had the mir for as long as the memory goes, and yet. |
22:07 |
ben_vulpes |
clever you, hanbot. it's cremant du jura though. |
22:08 |
decimation |
you mean the space station :) |
22:09 |
mircea_popescu |
nah, the mir, the village "corporation" of sorts. |
22:10 |
ben_vulpes |
what is scoopbot's actual uptime? |
22:10 |
ben_vulpes |
PeterL: do you need a hand with stabilizing that thing? |
22:11 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation it owned all the land, and allocated it. it owned the peasants, and regulated their life. basically think beehive with the queen unembodied. |
22:11 |
PeterL |
sorry, trying to fix it right now |
22:13 |
decimation |
so your point is that the lack of egalitarianism did not foster a culture? |
22:13 |
ben_vulpes |
PeterL: i'm not trying to make you cry, but mebbe offer suggestions how to keep the thing up |
22:13 |
ben_vulpes |
are you still running it in a screen session or whatever? |
22:13 |
ben_vulpes |
!up Vexual |
22:14 |
decimation |
PeterL: does it reconnect? |
22:15 |
PeterL |
no, not yet, I'm gonna swith it to a different chan for a minute while I derp with it a bit |
22:15 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/2122 |
22:15 |
assbot |
42 U.S. Code § 2122 - Prohibitions governing atomic weapons | LII / Legal Information Institute |
22:15 |
asciilifeform |
^ the nuke thing. |
22:15 |
asciilifeform |
finally found it. |
22:15 |
asciilifeform |
'It shall be unlawful, except as provided in section 2121 of this title, for any person, inside or outside of the United States, to knowingly participate in the development of, manufacture, produce, transfer, acquire, receive, possess, import, export, or use, or possess and threaten to use, any atomic weapon.' |
22:16 |
asciilifeform |
just think, kurchatov or sakharov, could have sat in an american jail |
22:16 |
asciilifeform |
if somehow caught. |
22:16 |
decimation |
presumably 'person' means 'person to which us law applies' |
22:16 |
asciilifeform |
nope. |
22:16 |
asciilifeform |
person. |
22:16 |
asciilifeform |
normally they state 'u.s. subject' or similar. |
22:16 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: 'person' is an overloaded word in us law |
22:17 |
ben_vulpes |
<asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: http://imgur.com/Bn88rOZ << ahaha i remember fucking with solenoids |
22:17 |
assbot |
asciilifeform's mail - Imgur |
22:17 |
ben_vulpes |
asciilifeform: damn did you hoover up the only copy? |
22:17 |
asciilifeform |
idk how many copies. |
22:18 |
asciilifeform |
ask mircea_popescu |
22:18 |
ben_vulpes |
well on 'amazon "book" services' |
22:18 |
ben_vulpes |
*** assbot (~assbot@unaffiliated/kakobrekla/bot/assbot) has changed mode for #bitcoin-assets to +v JorgePasada << where's my node, bitch |
22:18 |
asciilifeform |
ben_vulpes: http://www.amazon.com//gp/offer-listing/B000MOLJGI/sr=/qid=/?condition=used&tag=bkfndr76-20 |
22:18 |
ben_vulpes |
;;later tell JorgePasada see above |
22:18 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
22:20 |
ben_vulpes |
mm gratzi asciilifeform |
22:20 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12232 @ 0.00056379 = 6.8963 BTC [+] |
22:20 |
ben_vulpes |
holy shit mpoe clearing at 56k |
22:20 |
ben_vulpes |
market hates you mircea_popescu |
22:20 |
ben_vulpes |
clearly wagering on usg winning this round |
22:21 |
decimation |
I guess 'person' means whatever some court finds that it means, when they are presented with the question |
22:21 |
ben_vulpes |
<asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: the great fork war is inevitable. and we know what is on their side of the line. but what is on the other? the miners' mystery forks? our gadget, that doesn't even load the blockchain? << consider the gadget a piece of art. as always, the miners determine everything. |
22:24 |
Vexual |
decimation: Personne physique |
22:31 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AMHASH2] 5821 @ 0.0012 = 6.9852 BTC |
22:32 |
Vexual |
;;ticker |
22:32 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 438.18, Best ask: 438.3, Bid-ask spread: 0.12000, Last trade: 438.18, 24 hour volume: 45394.86406201, 24 hour low: 377.6, 24 hour high: 438.3, 24 hour vwap: 408.920744472 |
22:39 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation> so your point is that the lack of egalitarianism did not foster a culture? << my point being that culture is strictly a matter of time. how people organise is irrelevant. which also means there's no shortcuts. |
22:41 |
mircea_popescu |
;;calc 330/420 * 66 |
22:41 |
gribble |
51.8571428571 |
22:41 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe it's scaling with the usg *gasp* |
22:41 |
decimation |
yet, us folk come from somewhere, where did that culture go? |
22:42 |
mircea_popescu |
iroquis also came from somewhere, but once they came, it was all new. |
22:42 |
mircea_popescu |
for that matter, the germans come from fucking central asia. so what of it. |
22:42 |
mircea_popescu |
the zulus managed to start over each century moving 100 miles. |
22:42 |
Vexual |
and then some |
22:43 |
Vexual |
those guys don't fuck around |
22:43 |
decimation |
"Zulu" was a good movie |
22:43 |
decimation |
!up Vexual |
22:45 |
Vexual |
Might give it a look, The tourist was watchable |
22:45 |
decimation |
mircea_popescu: yeah that formula 'fits' - culture is derived in a convergence of circumstances + time |
22:49 |
BingoBoingo |
The geographic area occupied by present day Collinsville, Illinois had a population of ~35,000 600 years ago, and has a similar population today. |
22:49 |
decimation |
BingoBoingo: the 'mound culture'? |
22:50 |
BingoBoingo |
decimation: Yes "Mississippians" Seems smallpox probably got to them before the pale faces did. |
22:53 |
BingoBoingo |
The view from the big pile of dirt into Missouri is pretty sweet. |
22:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23994 @ 0.00056201 = 13.4849 BTC [-] {2} |
22:57 |
BingoBoingo |
They even seemed to have had their own skunkworks program where they might have been trying to get to bronze a few millenia too late https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mound_34 |
22:57 |
assbot |
Mound 34 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
22:58 |
decimation |
I guess kansas was kansas before kansas |
22:59 |
BingoBoingo |
Well, no. Kansas had those fucking barbarian nomads with their dogs |
23:01 |
BingoBoingo |
Meanwhile the Mississippians had suburbs and shit, some suburbs more populated than they are presently https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerald_Mound_and_Village_Site |
23:01 |
assbot |
Emerald Mound and Village Site - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
23:05 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Mrstickball |
23:05 |
BingoBoingo |
!up railzand |
23:05 |
BingoBoingo |
!up phish |
23:06 |
Vexual |
people on the river are happy to give |
23:10 |
BingoBoingo |
!up rdekley |
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23:32 |
mircea_popescu |
!up u00 |
23:34 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2014/ron-maimon-lubos-motl-and-other-internet-things-i-hear-of-today-for-the-very-first-time/#comment-109841 << a competitor emerges! |
23:34 |
assbot |
Ron Maimon, Luboš Motl and other Internet things I hear of today for the very first time pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
23:36 |
mircea_popescu |
actually midden is pretty much the best approximation of culture in physical terms. |
23:37 |
asciilifeform |
even the laziest student of archaeology knows this. |
23:38 |
mircea_popescu |
well so that's what, 300 people ? |
23:38 |
asciilifeform |
lol |
23:39 |
asciilifeform |
300 mil sovblok. |
23:40 |
decimation |
speaking of obvous to everybody, here's some tardation for amusement: http://www.isegoria.net/2014/11/alternative-scientific-history/ |
23:40 |
assbot |
Alternative Scientific History « Isegoria |
23:43 |
mircea_popescu |
the feminist one is pretty good. |
23:44 |
decimation |
yeah surely these people are trolling |
23:44 |
mircea_popescu |
basically, dude imagines that a) he currently lives in a world where people actually give a shit what usians thing and b) this will survive time travel. |
23:44 |
decimation |
most of what is accepted as common knowledge in the us would have been rank retardation to the ancients |
23:45 |
decimation |
the romans would use lenses though |
23:45 |
mircea_popescu |
wait, caesar saves the republic ?! |
23:45 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao |
23:45 |
decimation |
lol yeah that too |
23:46 |
mircea_popescu |
"since the early 20th century, Earths mean surface temperature has increased by about 0.8°C." lmap |
23:47 |
mircea_popescu |
The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change indicated!!!! |
23:47 |
decimation |
as if anyone could state that with authority |
23:47 |
mircea_popescu |
srsly, this faux chosenpeopleism is hard to get out of huh |
23:48 |
decimation |
the us is soaked in it, and it is getting worse |
23:48 |
mircea_popescu |
basically "i am a worthless sack of dung. the proof of this is that if i got sent to any other circumstance i'd make a total fool of myself" |
23:50 |
mircea_popescu |
all these people whose survival strictly depends on a extreheheeemely unlikely arrangement imagine themselves like... you know, representatives of HUMANITY outright |
23:50 |
dub |
they represent the body of human science tho |
23:50 |
mircea_popescu |
hardly. |
23:51 |
decimation |
do they lack the ability to perceive the obvious or are they acting out despite themselves? |
23:51 |
mircea_popescu |
the body of human science isn't derp derping about "relativity" by name anymore than the body of bitcoin is derp derping about "bitcoin" by name. |
23:51 |
mircea_popescu |
there's nothing in a name. |
23:51 |
dub |
teh body of human science says global warming is a thing |
23:51 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation coelenterata. they just float around in the sea. not their fault some happened upon a vent, not their fault the vent will go out. |
23:51 |
mircea_popescu |
you can't possibly be still on that kicks ?! |
23:52 |
dub |
its fact, idk what you deniers are smoking |
23:52 |
mircea_popescu |
the "body of human science" understood as "the government employees paid to derp on a topic" enacted "slow moving schizophrenia" as a thing. |
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23:52 |
dub |
its hilarious listening to it |
23:52 |
mircea_popescu |
and then they died by falling out of the strawberry tree. |
23:53 |
decimation |
I found a chocolate bush one day but it turned out to be rabbit turds |
23:53 |
undata |
decimation: how many bites in were you? |
23:54 |
assbot |
Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2A4P8SA.txt ) |
23:54 |
mircea_popescu |
!b 2 |
23:54 |
mircea_popescu |
get a load of this... the qin envoy guy is using the example of a chinese table tennis player as highly achievementful women. |
23:54 |
mircea_popescu |
because the ancient chinese didn't know women can you know, tablestuffs. |
23:55 |
nubbins` |
do you even table |
23:55 |
decimation |
http://acrossdifficultcountry.blogspot.com/2014/11/no-word-back-yet.html |
23:55 |
assbot |
Across Difficult Country: No Word Back Yet |
23:55 |
mircea_popescu |
kinda unfair that he mentions oprah winfrey but not martha stewart lol. |
23:58 |
decimation |
when I was in Maui I found Oprah's Maui mansion |
23:58 |
decimation |
it overlooks the statue erected to the memory of sun yet san |
23:58 |
mircea_popescu |
"Robin Williams' suicide was triggered by a horrible disease called Lewy Body Dementia ... sources connected with his family tell TMZ." |
23:58 |
mircea_popescu |
i fucking knew it. |