#trilema | 2014-08-27

notably absent from menu is 'retain army of thugs who know that spheres are interestingly secret'

00:11

pertinent proverb, 'if guard knew [what's in the box] he'd pinch it himself.'

~ 26 minutes ~

00:38

decimation: asciilifeform: which is why elliptic key systems still have doubt cast upon them (plus the patent issues) << plus the fact schneier is pushing them

00:38

you know, the schneier of "this is an interesting article on gpg by Random Asshat Greene, Cryptozoologist"

00:39

gotta find me a cryptozoologist position

00:39

decimation: perhaps assbot should only 'validate' those who have more positive than negative ratings << but it already does this.

00:40

how so>

00:40

dsherm: i hang out on reddit but it has moved away from libertarian roots << reddit ? libertarian roots ?! when did this happen.

00:40

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00068884 = 1.5154 BTC [-]

00:40

TheNewDeal l2 trust must be > 0

00:42

ben_vulpes: did he ever get it? << yeah yeah. it's not THAT intuitive a system

00:43

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: read log ? << lol what you seriously negged the guy ?

00:43

TheNewDeal: obummer ran on the pretense of "Change" << yeah but change that way not this way.

00:44

BingoBoingo: keeps this feasible << and by feasible you mean plausible ?

00:48

ben_vulpes: not that those are umbers that really matter < yeah srsly, i wouldn't put much stock in that counter.

00:51

TheNewDeal: russian would be a good language to learn. Some of the best authors wrote in russian << it's actually not nearly as hard as it seems.

00:51

cryllic text looks daunting upfront

00:52

it's perfectl;y transliterable tho, which means the font is just a mask.

00:53

not such for stuff like chinese, say

00:55

asciilifeform: funny how BlueMeanie4 reads so much like ninjaspamgun << i dun see it.

00:55

reminds me of solving a http://www.wikihow.com/Image:Complete-a-Cryptogram-Step-1.jpg

00:55

Image:Complete a Cryptogram Step 1.jpg - wikiHow

00:56

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: there was mention of user-tweakable minimum bids at one point ? <<< open up for bids, bid 1 btc/day on your own thing, this way you're charged a bitcent a day and in exchange you get a guarantee that nobody willing to pay less than 1 btc per half your impressions shows up.

00:58

ben_vulpes: this whole thing's been a really eye opening exercise in pricing < :D

00:58

"experience ? what is that ?"

00:59

mircea_popescu: Yeah that one.

01:00

asciilifeform: how do you suppose most people would react to 'taking it slowly' for that one? << what are weddng rings if not a system for slow-cooking tattoos ?

01:00

a bitcent a day << more than i'm willing to spend on lotto

01:00

turns out this process is a lot more fundamental to bitcoin than originally thought. your exact argument can be brought by person at the brink of the wot, "i'll get in the wot if you guarantee me good deals" he may say.

01:01

being in wot doesn't void yer starfish warranty.

01:01

asciilifeform i just took some arbitrary numbers. you can make it 10 bitcents a day, in which case it costs 0.1

01:01

asciilifeform well now that's obviously all subjective neh ?

01:01

generally the girls that've not yet been buggered tend to attach a lot more importance to it than the normal ones.

01:02

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asciilifeform can't immediately picture who might see wot the way he sees ads on site, but admittedly hasn't tried hard

01:02

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.00068957 = 6.2406 BTC [+]

01:03

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asciilifeform recently visited a restaurant he frequented as student, and noticed appearance of placemats with (very spammy) ads.

01:03

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asciilifeform was palpably dismayed, felt that the place must be in dire straits

01:03

all places are in dire straits

01:03

the mortgages made them wealthier.

01:04

sure did.

01:05

slow-cooking tattoos << or very fast cooking, if you do electrical or chemical work...

01:05

* asciilifeform can't immediately picture who might see wot the way he sees ads on site << anyway, this is about fucking freedom, so, you know, enjoy fucking her. it's not about adding musts, it's about adding mays.

01:05

if every time someone opened a steakhouse everyone had to go have steak there it'd be a sad world/

01:05

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asciilifeform was not declaring van ad machine to be 'considered harmful'

01:06

but was asked at one point why he wasn't in, and answered

01:07

hanbot

wait bluemeanie4's twitter profile reads "cryptocurrency prophet"?! https://twitter.com/BlueMeanie4

01:07

Blue Meanie (BlueMeanie4) auf Twitter

01:07

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asciilifeform doesn't stop in crosswalks on busy streets to pick up penny, either.

01:09

ha that's funny.

01:10

back to this "what is the value of a bitcoin" thing again

01:10

ben_vulpes: closer to 'what is the value of a gram of soil'

01:11

if you have a gram - you have dusty fingers

01:11

a few teratons - you have a potentially-habitable planetoid

01:11

else a continent?

01:11

myeah.

01:11

grains today

01:11

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.0006922 = 5.3299 BTC [+]

01:12

dusty hands are worth less than nothing to me. planetoid - worth something.

01:12

herr newton does not tell us where the inflection point lies

01:12

or how many droplets of water is a flood.

01:12

so http://altchain.org/ whence Web Design, Content Development and SEO by James Bryant.

01:12

Welcome | altchain.org :: Open Source Peer-To-Peer Cryptofinance Infrastructure

01:14

lulzy

01:14

asciilifeform there actually is a c).

01:15

what'd that be

01:15

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwUFHE6KYsM0ZkxLVmFwbXQ3ck0/edit

01:15

peer-to-peer-assets.pdf - Google Drive

01:15

if the knowledge differential is large enough to approach the magic event horizon, hiding in plain sight works.

01:15

;;ident shovel_boss

01:15

Nick 'shovel_boss', with hostmask 'shovel_boss!~shovel_bo@gateway/tor-sasl/shovelboss/x-56238960', is not identified.

01:15

this is how the glorious lie was born in the first place.

01:15

yes but who engineers the mechanics of what is to be hidden, inside what.

01:16

see, all romans know how the law works.

01:16

none of the germans do

01:16

c).

01:16

they can even send ovid to live in the pontus, what'll that do. start a rome there, with the savages ?

01:16

this presumes that either - no roman will turn coat, and explain to a german - or - no german born can understand were it told to him

01:16

if the differential is large enough

01:16

much the same way we keep arithmetic secret from dogs

01:16

no german can understand it. period.

01:17

pretty much, yes.

01:17

but we don't normally talk of keeping arithmetic secret from dogs

01:17

keep the germans interested in who dumped who and what's the most recent popsong/sex tape

01:17

and there you go.

01:17

the name of the exercise 'keeping secret' presumes an opponent capable of knowing

01:17

well of course. SEE what a well kept secret it is ?

01:17

the germans are human just as much as the romans.

01:18

their incapcity is circumstantial and culturally constructed.

01:18

it should qualify.

01:18

in card player's parlance, 'smoke more, give opponent CO poisoning'

01:18

works.

01:18

how did the soviets keep their gdp secret ? and how are the us soviets keeping their gdp secret ?

01:19

i suppose one might even then include a 'd)', 'sow crank bait'

01:19

(discredit nosy parkers)

01:22

good read that forbidden spheres thing.

01:22

vaununu doesn'tr get nearly enough airplay. imo he's the most important jew to have ever been produced by israel.

01:23

forget abject whiners a la eli weasel & co.

01:24

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26500 @ 0.00068798 = 18.2315 BTC [-] {3}

01:24

!up beetcoin

01:25

let me guess, it's ukrainian and backed by beet salad.

01:25

hahaha

01:25

proof of fertilizer

01:25

'and when we had nothing remaining to eat, they gave us a turnip, they gave us a beet. 'here have some mice, have some fleas! here, have some typhus! die of disease.''

01:26

(attributed to warsaw ghetto death diary)

01:26

very touching, asciilifeform.

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asciilifeform didn't invent

01:30

put me down for one thousand beet coins

01:30

i'm sold

01:30

"Satan is glad when I am bad, / And hopes that I with him shall lie, / In fire and chains, and dreadful pains." -- Victorian child's poem

01:30

you must grow your own beetcoins, TheNewDeal

01:31

can I buy a farming contract?

01:31

I'm sure someone will sell you one.

01:31

dude victorians were seriously selling bdsm to preteens ?

01:31

it would seem so

01:32

i wonder what's the sum total of victorian girly orgasms generated by rubbing the nubbin more or less furiously to that song.

01:33

i will give the answer for just a few beetshekels

01:34

i want one thousand beetcoins, screw the shekels

01:34

a pound of beets

01:34

https://archive.org/details/peepofdayorserie00mort

01:34

The peep of day : or, a series of the earliest religious instruction the infant mind is capable of receiving, with verses illustrative of the subjects : Mortimer, Favell Lee, 1802-1878 : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive

01:34

^ source

01:35

pound? that's not a thousand. I'm talking a kilo

01:35

I'm sorry, I don't have any actual beetcoins

01:35

jurov: Cognitive enhancement could take place through collective cognitive ability -- the Internet, for example, <<< aaa-hahahaha.

01:36

;;rate beetcoin 0 worthless to me

01:36

Error: Rating must be in the interval [-10, 10] and cannot be zero.

01:36

yeah, totally.

01:36

someone made this for me: http://a.pomf.se/xwjqzk.png

01:36

best I have to offer

01:37

asciilifeform: lol re: the notion of 'controlling' a hypothetical 'superintelligent' machine. <<< i've controlled superintelligent womenz, they luv'd it. why'd the ai necessarily not enjoy it ?

01:37

question of degree.

01:38

normally when people contemplate 'superintelligent' whatevers, if they use their imagination well, the machine is to us as we are to the bacterium

01:39

okay...

01:39

suppose i gave you an applesized cow that ran around the desk.

01:39

wouldn't you cater to the ubercute desk cow ?

01:40

might, for a spell. and then sell it to some weirdo who might, for lulz, eat it on camera

01:40

like an oyster.

01:40

for the spell, how would the cow ever know it's not controlling you.

01:40

and yes, then we die. so ?

01:40

thanks for +v mircea_popescu, I'll mainly lurk for a while after it expires, I'm interested in this channel

01:41

this sorta touches on 'housecats keep us pets' concept.

01:41

enjoy.

01:41

asciilifeform quite.

01:41

!up JimDowJones

01:42

JimDowJones

yo

01:42

ello.

01:42

so hard to get voice in the channel; it's a barrier

01:44

JimDowJones

i think i love irc

01:44

iirc

01:44

ancient but dependable slut, irc.

01:49

JimDowJones

ya seriously what a slut

01:56

great barrier +veef

01:56

mircea_popescu: re: herr vanunu: archetypical example of 'can have problems'

01:57

(bonus: look up who else sat in the same prison)

01:59

how does a tiny country with no useful minerals rape the planet? this is how. piss the buggers off - no wall is tall enough

01:59

(vanunu, for his part, insists they even plugged kennedy for 'rocking boat')

02:03

read it tinny

02:03

'assassin state' is a pretty good strategy. castle of alamut stood for ~200 years.

02:05

(zapped by mongols, who didn't get the memo that they 'could also have problems')

02:19

[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 210 @ 0.00324433 = 0.6813 BTC [-] {6}

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02:40

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14650 @ 0.00068724 = 10.0681 BTC [-]

~ 15 minutes ~

02:55

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8451 @ 0.00069238 = 5.8513 BTC [+] {2}

03:09

!up cryptoflood

03:09

cryptoflood

hey

03:14

asciilifeform the only reason that thing stood is because it was placed somewhere not even the goats cared to inhabit.

03:15

shitlandia kingdom is welcome to any delusions of self importance and grandeur - just as long as it packs and moves there.

03:15

an' with that, im out. later all!

03:18

Hardware BA real estate prices don't look so bad

03:18

https://buenosaires.craigslist.org/apa/4617560950.html

03:18

Amazing Room For Rent in BA Class A equipment

03:19

^ Only problem with that room is "No fumadores"

03:20

An Bingo needs his cigarettes

03:31

OMG hardware BA has the best jobs (only miss the age requirement by one year) https://buenosaires.craigslist.org/csr/4566163594.html

03:31

Get Paid to PARTY!!!!

03:37

lol, nice one. I assumed you were a lot older than that

03:37

Fuck, looking at the hardware #BA craigslist... reading Trilema made my Spanish much better than I thought

03:38

RagnarDanneskjol: I'm only 28

03:38

you are wise beyond your years

03:39

Thanks, Well... 4 years of college and 4 years of gradschool followed by a distinct lack of employment and bitcoin related adventures spoiled by premature cashouts has a reward

03:39

haha.

03:40

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BingoBoingo feels he has to disclose now to the Feds watching that yes I am drunk.

03:40

ahahahah

03:40

Which is why tonight I've priced air land and sea prices for travel to hardware BA

03:41

think you need a passpuerto first

03:41

Yeah

03:42

Once I clear up the neighboring county mounty issues I'll deal with that.

03:42

cool

03:42

I'm at your service to help you locate a job fit for a renegade. its what I do

03:43

Have a court date for that Thursday. Thing's been going on for over a year now. Allegedly I did a thing that was totally not a crime even if I did it because it was speech that supposed no transfer of value.

03:43

RagnarDanneskjol: What sort of work do you hook people up with.

03:43

any. i have been a corporate recruiter for 15 years

03:44

primarily life sci, aerospace, pharma, semiconductor and enterprise software, finance

03:44

Know any corporations that need Librarians? Preferably with health benefits because I haven't seen a psychiatrist since I got my Library science degree 25 months ago?

03:44

other stuff to. recruitment is the same anywhere you go. sorting through the garbage is all i do

03:45

you serious?

03:45

Very

03:45

Pretty sure previous discussion on this subject are in the logs

03:45

hmm. let me look into it. not off the top of head, will chek lawgs and ask around for you

03:46

Cool.

03:47

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BingoBoingo is currently medicated with copious ETOH several times a week. It isn't no lamotrigine (which was beautiful in its effectiveness without cognitive effects, and I'm pretty sure my dick was bigger while I was on it)

03:47

lol

03:47

Mostly it helps my avoid the manias though

03:47

When I'm depressed I'm miserable but safe.

03:47

you have a dog?

03:48

My brother does, with his wife. It's adorable.

03:48

nothing better for mental health imo

03:49

I was a TA at a pharmacy school for 2 years. Pretty sure anticonvulsants are they way to go, but they vary so much from person to person.

03:49

right

03:50

I like domestic dogs though and stray cats. I also dislike domestic cats and stray dogs.

03:50

here are my litle piggies: https://picasaweb.google.com/106983768353184100061/PrinceAndTank?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCNjR_6nZ4dS_ogE&feat=directlink

03:50

Picasa Web Albums - shannon morrisey - Prince and Tank

03:50

Nice, I have trouble trusting dogs without long faces.

03:51

Because you dunno when a pug is just going to stop breathing

03:51

yep, me too. they are little monsters. mean too

03:53

My brother has a corgi mix named Frank. Frank is adorable. Frank would not make a good guard dog. Frank is great at giving elderly relatives hope though.

03:54

mhmm. pups add years to lifespans

03:56

Well, my estimation on the elderly is more empiricle though. It's been a while since grampa tried to drink a bottle of pesticide.

03:56

oh my

03:57

It's dark but true. The pesticide he tried was basically a concentrated nicotine and being old enough to have smoke a lot... he went to the hospital nauseous after trying to crash his truck.

03:58

He's well into his 90's though.

03:59

wow. that's punk rock

03:59

not to make light of it

04:00

Shit happens. People get desperate for change... I mean Obama was elected twice

04:00

!up ToasterButter

04:01

!up csshih_

04:01

!up csshih

04:02

csshih: Were you the mole who gave the FBI/Treasury my address (not that you would have needed to)

04:02

csshih_

not this time

04:04

sounds like they'd make for a good buddy cop movie

04:04

csshih: Cool

04:04

RagnarDanneskjol: I think the two hated each other.

04:05

perfect

04:05

Maybe this was their play at Good cop/Bad Cop, but they seemed to LEGIT hate each other.

04:06

It was friendly FBI agency and pissed off Treasury agent sore he had to waste his time on a pauper

04:06

makes sense

04:06

RagnarDanneskjol: Sometime send me an email and GPG it. Maybe I'll give you my slave name?

04:08

ok, will soon, think I'll need further help with the bot thing too, so need to do a few more test messages anyway

04:09

!up Belsage

04:09

!up warptangent

04:09

!up taub

04:09

Hey taub!

04:09

Are you like doctor taub from House taub?

04:11

!up lampelinaa

04:11

!up DoctorBTC_

04:12

DoctorBTC_ DoctorBTC: We've traded before so http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/08/25/a-law-enforcement-encounter-if-you-ran-a-bitcoin-related-service-before-the-thing-hit-100-you-prolly-ought-to-be-somewhat-concerned-andor-prepared/

04:12

A Law Enforcement Encounter: If you ran a Bitcoin related service before the thing hit $100 you prolly ought to be somewhat concerned and/or prepared | Bingo Blog

04:12

Doc is fast asleep

04:12

!up ethX

04:12

What up ethX

04:16

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.0006918 = 7.2639 BTC [-] {2}

04:17

RagnarDanneskjol: If nothing else, what does this say about the average worth of humanity if a booze loving person with Bipolar I can be featured as a voice through Van-ads?

04:19

asciilifeform: funny how BlueMeanie4 reads so much like ninjaspamgun <<< ninjashogun parted earlier today so perhaps you are right

04:19

i guess it means there is hope?

04:20

I mean if pete's people the Jews are right... Noah better work on getting his pussy all wet again to make dat flood

04:20

ahaha

04:24

So for my personal safety, a list of things I do not own and have no access to: Nailguns, duffelbags my size, a distinct lack of hope that would make me want to exit the world of the living

04:25

nailgun has to be a tough way to go. geez

04:27

Well I don't own one and I'm cribbing alf's list of inconvenient things that lead to suspicious 'suicides"

04:27

i see

04:29

I'm a little surprised to learn carry such inclinations based on your writings. seems you have a fairly healthy/jovial outlook on life to me

04:29

learn 'YOU" carry...

04:30

RagnarDanneskjol: It isn't a unique thing

04:31

right

04:32

nailgun is the preferred banker suicide method apparently

04:33

good grief

04:33

The clinically crazy being part of the "smart" or the "elite", I'm also fortunate to have a very seasonal sort of bipolar in that summers I get a mania that is always unfamiliar and winters I get a very familiar depression. Both conditions and the space in between are Incredibly livable.

04:33

need a change of latitude sounds like

04:34

Yeah. Been in the Middle West all my life.

04:35

yea, tropical climates do wonders to clear the head

04:35

But if I go quiet too long a number of people here know my slave name.

04:35

Eh, not necessarily tropical. Just different.

04:38

I like "slave name" ;)

04:39

I use my real name for "professional" stuff because it's the custom, but I'd rather use a pseudonym there too

04:40

Perhaps using a name that looks "real" would work

04:40

pankkake: Your name is Tobyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByhFz5e5Tno

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04:58

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25850 @ 0.00069481 = 17.9608 BTC [+] {3}

05:11

Liberation https://buenosaires.craigslist.org/eng/4631086713.html

05:11

need help with my router configuration

05:19

Some hippy left me a comment, bread time http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/08/26/replies-to-select-comments/#comment-27294

05:19

Replies to Select /. Comments | Bingo Blog

05:23

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30093 @ 0.00069597 = 20.9438 BTC [+] {2}

05:24

huh. I might take exception to your notions on certainty

05:24

not might. do

05:34

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9487 @ 0.0006965 = 6.6077 BTC [+] {2}

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05:52

https://eprint.iacr.org/2014/629.pdf

05:53

(Realizing two-factor authentication for the Bitcoin protocol)

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06:50

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/economic-intelligence/2014/08/26/ted-rubin-talks-twitter-brands-and-social-media-marketing

06:50

Ted Rubin Talks Twitter, Brands and Social Media Marketing - US News

06:51

'Relationships Are the New Currency'

06:52

yawn

06:52

RagnarDanneskjol: "It's not what you know, it's whom you know" - said no smart person ever.

06:53

works in politics

06:54

>smart person

06:55

>politics

06:55

i thought it was amusing, being one who has never took part in in social medias. I thought it relevant in the context of wot

06:55

taken part

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07:38

!up RagnarsBitch

07:39

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5000 @ 0.00087555 = 4.3778 BTC [-] {21}

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08:52

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 57 @ 0.01202189 = 0.6852 BTC [+] {4}

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09:24

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 501 @ 0.00252203 = 1.2635 BTC [-] {2}

09:25

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.273 = 1.092 BTC [+]

09:32

fluffypony: Hey

09:33

fluffypony: check http://bettingblocks.com/

09:33

Betting Blocks Bitcoin Game - Who will mine the next block in the blockchain?

09:33

*clicks*

09:41

fluffypony: that's the bitcoin block betting site i mentioned

09:41

fluffypony: they're silent live, figured you might like that

09:41

(the betting part, heh)

09:42

v. cool

09:42

so.

09:42

question.

09:42

How much do I get away with, setting a retainer for sysadmin services?

09:48

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.00083746 = 12.3107 BTC [+]

09:55

"who' s the commisioner? Andreas A or mark kaperles? both would be great. if it can be autographed and laminated, i'll get one."

09:55

facepalm

10:03

nubbins`: you get our email?

10:04

yeah, i replied w/ a time-sensitive invoice :)

10:04

btc price guaranteed til aug 31

10:09

one second

10:09

did you reply to all?

10:09

lol

10:09

boo i have to wait until designer wakes up

10:09

stupid children and not having to wake up early

~ 23 minutes ~

10:33

<+asciilifeform> fatter - works. /// taller while laying down :)

10:38

<+xmj> RagnarDanneskjol: "It's not what you know, it's whom you know" - said no smart person ever. /// why is it one or the other? Both are necessary qualities.

10:39

But i'm certainly not listening to some Social Media Marketer rediscover what he threw away

10:39

ThickAsThieves: it's not.

10:39

ThickAsThieves: there's a certain kind of person who will tell you that it is, and it is about connections.

10:43

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.00083763 = 7.078 BTC [+]

10:47

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2535 @ 0.00083746 = 2.123 BTC [-]

10:51

I suppose the wot is a kind of 'known connections'

10:53

it's linkedin without the nonsense

11:08

hm

11:08

fluffypony: think i can get away with charging people EUR 300 as retainer if they want "pure pay as you go" ?

11:08

how many hours does that buy them?

11:09

e.g. as "fee for access"

11:09

that's steep if it doesn't buy them anything

11:09

unless it's 24/7 on call

11:17

<ThickAsThieves> it's linkedin without the nonsense//++

11:28

;;getrating ben_vulpes

11:28

Use the gettrust command instead. See http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/OTC_Rating_System#Relying_on_the_rating

11:28

;;getrust ben_vulpes

11:28

Error: "getrust" is not a valid command.

11:28

;;gettrust ben_vulpes

11:28

WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user jborkl_ to user ben_vulpes: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=jborkl_&dest=ben_vulpes | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=ben_vulpes | Rated since: Sun Mar 10 13:57:45 2013

11:31

eightyeight +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0

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!up eightyeight

11:35

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00083763 = 14.2397 BTC [+]

11:42

crazy eightyeight

11:45

how long does each '!up' last? 30 minutes each, or is there an exponential scale, with some sort of max?

11:45

looking through the wiki currently

11:45

30 minutes until you can do it yourself, then its permanent

11:45

so, i need to issue '!up' on myself then?

11:45

once verified through gpg

11:45

!up eightyeight

11:45

?

11:45

he is authed, just doesnt have a rating

11:46

eightyeight +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0

11:47

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2482 @ 0.00083814 = 2.0803 BTC [-] {20}

11:50

<assbot> eightyeight +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0

11:50

;;rate eightyeight 1 solely for the purpose of #b-a voice

11:50

Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user eightyeight has been recorded.

11:50

easy come easy go.

11:50

kakobrekla, you seeded or donated to start van-ads?

11:50

with mircea

11:50

not that i would know about it

11:50

i misread then

11:50

so mircea seeded it?

11:50

well he runs trilema ads gor if that is what you mean, other than that - ask ben

11:50

s/gor/or

11:50

kakobrekla: hey ;)

11:50

hi there

11:50

*

kakobrekla just woke up

11:51

how is ljubljana treting you

11:52

eightyeight it takes some time for changes to get reflected (15min ?)

11:52

ok

11:52

i was referred here by danielpbarron. so, checking it out. :)

11:52

oh god!

11:52

::unrate eightyeight

11:52

my keysigning policy, which i'm looking at ammending: https://pthree.org/my-pgp-key-signing-policy/

11:52

Aaron Toponce : PGP Keysigning Policy

11:53

current web of trust: http://aarontoponce.org/pubring.gif

11:53

:)

11:54

i also wrote https://github.com/atoponce/d-note and https://github.com/atoponce/keyart (which is is signing-party >= 1.1.8-1 on debian/ubuntu)

11:54

atoponce/d-note GitHub

11:54

atoponce/keyart GitHub

11:54

<- crypto nerd

11:54

anyway

11:54

nice

11:59

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.58649525 BTC to 15`045 shares, 10545 satoshi per share

12:00

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 11.00538516 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 957 satoshi per share

12:02

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20316 @ 0.00083716 = 17.0077 BTC [-] {2}

12:09

double voice

12:09

usagi: But NXT is going to kill BTC, I'm staking my stake on it

12:09

the bird strikes again!

12:09

;;ticker

12:09

Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 512.65, Best ask: 514.28, Bid-ask spread: 1.63000, Last trade: 514.29, 24 hour volume: 7894.78317093, 24 hour low: 508.28, 24 hour high: 523.09, 24 hour vwap: 515.496769024

12:09

punkman, are you serious ?

12:09

nvm

12:10

http://boingboing.net/2014/08/26/how-games-lazy-storytelling.html

12:10

How games' lazy storytelling uses rape and violence against women as wallpaper - Boing Boing

12:15

;;later tell mircea_popescu there is good american beer, but it's rare

12:15

The operation succeeded.

12:17

TheNewDeal: i always suspected you could turn american beer into something like proper beer with a 'rotovap'

12:18

I think that would be a way to turn shitty american beer into mediocre beer

12:18

which is the majority of american beer, shit

12:23

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00251705 = 0.5034 BTC [-] {4}

12:25

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 601 @ 0.002512 = 1.5097 BTC [-]

12:28

penguirker

New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/bitcoin-advertising-network-van-ads-com-open-beta/

12:30

!up no_imagination

12:32

thanks punkman

12:33

hai

12:35

seems pretty quiet. is there a time when this board is usually more active?

12:36

depends on the day

12:36

4-5 hours from now

12:37

or depends on the day as nubbins said

12:37

read the logs in the meantime

12:37

will do

12:39

is everything logged?

12:39

aaand action!

12:39

yes it is

12:39

TheNewDeal yes well, what's that do you know ?

12:39

;;topic

12:39

http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com

12:39

no_imagination see the log one.

12:40

ty

12:40

join/parts are not logged.

12:40

lol jborkl graduated van to beta

12:40

thanks boss

12:40

ben_vulpes hey, it hasnt been haxxed so far rite ?

12:41

two weeks, qualifies.

12:41

*

ben_vulpes has not run with the money

12:41

/me, for the record, doesn't even hold the money

12:41

*

ben_vulpes , for the record, doesn't even hold the money

12:41

and to start things up on the right leg : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3svvCj4yhYc

12:41

Flappers - The Roaring Twenties - YouTube

12:48

BingoBoingo: ^ Only problem with that room is "No fumadores" << you can do better than that.

12:48

that thing looks tiny and the "no fumadores" bs is laughable.

12:48

wait BingoBoingo escaped ?

12:48

jailbird can dream, cannit ?

12:48

aha

12:49

what, you jelly ?

12:49

lol

12:49

*

asciilifeform dreams. of mobile oppression palace. http://theinfosphere.org/Mobile_Oppression_Palace

12:49

Mobile Oppression Palace - The Infosphere, the Futurama Wiki

12:49

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00083649 = 12.5474 BTC [-]

12:49

alabama sucks huh.

12:50

Its destruction resulted in Earth being liberated, since the Mobile Oppression Palace had been the Decapodian's sole means of enforcing their rule on Earth.

12:50

lmao yeah, that's totally how it works. lmao.

12:50

*

asciilifeform can't attest how much alabama sucks, hasn't been to it

12:50

who writes this crap.

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(it was a pun. mobile, alabama)

12:50

lol

12:51

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2735354/Obama-sidestep-Congress-signing-international-climate-change-agreement-leaked-United-Nations-report-reveals-severe-irreversible-impacts-global-warming.html

12:51

President Barack Obama to sidestep Congress with international emissions agreement | Mail Online

12:52

lol

12:52

what's congress even for ?

12:52

i forget.

12:52

to collect salaries and bribes

12:53

BingoBoingo also, it's in hipsterlandia.

12:53

all gringos flock to palermo for some god forsaken reason. shit there is about 2x as expensive and the restaurants all look like they were kicked out of austin, tx.

12:54

mircea_popescu: ever been to brooklyn, ny ?

12:54

yes/

12:54

where all the sorriest soviet escapees re-created their zoo

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lol

12:54

funny how that shit works, huh.

12:55

at some point the italians were working to recreate palermo there.

12:55

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51406 @ 0.00084012 = 43.1872 BTC [+] {4}

12:55

if you're stuck in a zoolag it's one thing; if you escape and then re-build it, that's voluntary.

12:55

path of least resistence.

12:56

you see, creating a zoolag in the first place is a work of art. the zeks are the resistence of the medium

12:56

'paris eats couscous'

12:56

the exact shape the gulag takes is a lot more a function of what the zeks put up with and how exactly

12:56

than of the original vision of the stalin in question.

12:56

consequently, of course they'll fucking recreate it.

12:56

*

asciilifeform once thought this was known to everyone

12:57

well now it is, what with being in the logs an' all :D

12:58

Sheets and towels are changed twice a week. Maid service is included. Need your clothes washed? We'll take care. Need some help cooking or ordering take out? We can help. Any questions you might have don't hesitate to ask! I'm at your service! << "is the maid hot ?"

12:58

Who knows?

12:59

"Get Paid to PARTY!!!! (CABA)"

12:59

lmao they conveniently omit "must carry cona at all times!"

13:00

. Staff are expected to interact with every single customer and make it a fun night no matter the size of the group, bad weather, bars closing at the last minute, long walks, drunken behavior, etc. << srsly. this is where the level is, irl, in this world.

13:00

this is what ppls gotta do to earn their bread.

13:01

;;rate eightyeight 1 https://twitter.com/AaronToponce

13:01

Aaron Toponce (AaronToponce) auf Twitter

13:01

Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user eightyeight has been recorded.

13:03

RagnarDanneskjol: think you need a passpuerto first << you can probably simply walk into mexico. you can definitely cross the border to guatemala on foot. once in guatemala, you can hit the local consulate for a temp passport and that's that.

13:04

poor soviets had it a lot harder, they had to walk to finland. it's fucking cold in finland.

13:04

BingoBoingo: Know any corporations that need Librarians? <<< ahahha this made my lol

13:05

<mircea_popescu> jailbird can dream, cannit ? << This

13:05

Dreams of cigarette powered balloons and homemade zepplins

13:05

you gotta stop hussling poor innocent ppls tho. ragnar fellow is an actual recruiter, wtf do you want to do as a librarian.

13:06

BingoBoingo: jailbird dream << http://www.wysotsky.com/1033.htm?1130

13:06

Eh make enough to escape. Have a second career as a party herder.

13:06

mircea_popescu: what professions does he seek ?

13:07

asciilifeform according to himself in the log, any ?

13:07

but not librarians ?

13:07

well let's try and be reasonable, for like the first time this year here ?

13:07

who the fuck would hire a librarian.

13:08

... a library.

13:08

touche

13:08

no, actually, it wouldn't.

13:08

who would NOT hire a librarian!?

13:08

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=218435.msg8557922#msg8557922

13:08

Official CaVirtex.com Thread

13:08

true, they'll get a starving chemist etc

13:08

aha.

13:08

^ cavirtex / havelock shenanigans

13:08

<mircea_popescu> no, actually, it wouldn't. << Surprisingly true

13:09

and this even if we don't go all b-a and consider a hire only something that comes with stock options.

13:09

nubbins` what'd they do this time ?

13:09

trying to buy back everyone's "shares" while they scramble to pretend they've been a legitimate company this whole time

13:09

lol.

13:10

ALL THIS TIME!

13:10

BingoBoingo: aren't you also a machinist?

13:10

srsly, if you accept the buyout, ithey retroactively declare you were never a shareholder

13:10

or was that vulpes

13:10

"I hope you do not drive away your existing tech-saavy users, like those of us who signed up back in the fall of 2011, with a dumbed down, simplified and rigid user experience a la Facebook.

13:10

There are those of use who find dumbed down, simplified and rigid interfaces extremely irritating and annoying and have zero use for Facebook."

13:10

BUT USABILITY!

13:10

or, well, that's what they say, at least. although if i call a steak a lobster...

13:10

where is the meanie guy.

13:10

asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: aren't you also a machinist? << believe that was vulpes

13:10

i thought vulpes was a blowupitem-ist

13:11

"Should you exercise your right of rescission"

13:11

say wut ?!

13:12

wasn't this thing candian ?

13:12

rescission is, as far as memory serves, the result of a us law, and works out to the right for backsies on mortgages for 3 days after signing.

13:14

(it's featured prominently in glengarry glen ross of all places - that's why that entire scene with the mark trying to get his mortgage cleared and when the check was cashed etc)

13:17

!last m s.mpoe

13:17

Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00084012 BTC [+]

13:17

LOL

13:17

!ticker m s.mpoe

13:17

[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00068641 / 0.00072516 / 0.00084059 (554647 shares, 402.21 BTC), 7D: 0.00062821 / 0.00065571 / 0.00084059 (4461623 shares, 2,925.56 BTC), 30D: 0.00062821 / 0.00076053 / 0.00094217 (18270307 shares, 13,895.25 BTC)

13:18

o wait we're back ?

13:18

;;ticker

13:18

Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 512.74, Best ask: 513.67, Bid-ask spread: 0.93000, Last trade: 513.67, 24 hour volume: 7638.24866748, 24 hour low: 508.28, 24 hour high: 523.09, 24 hour vwap: 515.423336699

13:19

asciilifeform what's your take on the guy's death btw ?

13:20

which guy ?

13:22

vysotsky

13:22

ah

13:22

*

asciilifeform more or less buys the traditional version

13:23

which one

13:23

lol

13:23

od

13:23

eww

13:24

afaik he died of a typical od - took customary dose of opium after quitting for a spell

13:24

a. yeah.

13:25

brother put cocoa in the coffee. is this a thing?

13:25

yes. among sluts.

13:26

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26930 @ 0.00084455 = 22.7437 BTC [+] {2}

13:26

ask him if he's turning twink nao.

13:26

;;ud twink

13:26

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=twink | An attractive, boyish-looking, young gay man. The stereotypical twink is 18-22, slender with little or no body hair, often blonde, dresses in club wear even at ...

13:26

tastes very bitter

13:26

and i normally enjoy bitter coffee

13:27

;;calc 8500/25

13:27

340

13:27

mircea_popescu: re: vysotsky << https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35NOsBxTpDs >> about the fellow who did own appendix

13:27

- YouTube

13:30

;;seen RagnarDanneskjol

13:30

RagnarDanneskjol was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 hours, 51 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <RagnarDanneskjol> !up RagnarsBitch

13:31

question on bad or good bet - "All volatility bets resolve no"

13:32

September, October, and 2014

13:34

doubt it'll pass

13:35

even with 0conf on yes?

13:36

well for one thing it's open ended.

13:36

someone bets, makes a special volatility bet right after, wins.

13:36

Maybe if you specify which volatility bets in advance

13:36

that's what I was saying. September, October, 2014

13:37

which are those ?

13:37

could even link to them

13:37

http://bitbet.us/bet/986/bitcoin-volatility-2014-over-800/

13:37

BitBet - Bitcoin volatility 2014 over $800 :: 0.55 B (55%) on Yes, 0.45 B (45%) on No | closing in 2 months 2 weeks | weight: 58`103 (100`000 to 1)

13:37

http://bitbet.us/bet/985/bitcoin-volatility-october-over-300/

13:37

BitBet - Bitcoin volatility October over $300 :: 0.15 B (46%) on Yes, 0.18 B (54%) on No | closing in 1 month 1 week| weight: 42`268 (100`000 to 1)

13:37

http://bitbet.us/bet/984/bitcoin-volatility-september-over-250/

13:37

BitBet - Bitcoin volatility September over $250 :: 0.21 B (37%) on Yes, 0.36 B (63%) on No | closing in 1 week 2 days | weight: 14`417 (100`000 to 1)

13:38

the only ones which exist right now, not considering the August

13:38

aha. well... mebbe ? give it a shot see.

13:41

http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20140827065755

13:41

Heads Up: Nginx Removed From Base

13:42

"On June 22, 1918, four people were arrested and over one hundred waiters taken into custody over the apparent widespread practice of poisoning by waiters in Chicago."

13:42

dude...

13:44

now they just shoot

13:44

i suppose not everyone could afford the 'chicago typewriter'

13:44

BingoBoingo odd.

13:45

Seems Heartbleed gave OpenBSD the full paranoia as well

13:51

!up shovel_boss

13:51

hello mates

13:51

just want to say

13:51

BingoBoingo: I was a TA at a pharmacy school for 2 years. Pretty sure anticonvulsants are they way to go, but they vary so much from person to person. << no, he has a point. a woman is ideal but fail that a dog works.

13:51

the system you have here

13:51

with the !up

13:51

is retarded

13:51

it should burn in hell

13:51

thanks

13:52

he has moved beyond ass & tities

13:52

it's amazing

13:52

AMAZING COMPANY!

13:53

;;ticker

13:53

Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 513.06, Best ask: 514.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.94000, Last trade: 513.0, 24 hour volume: 7425.93327263, 24 hour low: 508.28, 24 hour high: 523.09, 24 hour vwap: 515.413574198

13:53

heh, from the guy who posts <shovel_boss> [09:13:29] https://twitter.com/shovel_boss/status/504525210222358529

13:53

/hashtag/Aerocoin?src=hash /search?q=%24AERO&src=ctag /hashtag/AERO?src=hash is starting to spike up again,holding ATLEAST 2000 /search?q=%24AEROS&src=ctag right now is a must.There will be an upcoming $15k invesment

13:53

o.O

13:54

<TheNewDeal> he has moved beyond ass & tities // he's now pumping some scamcoins yeah

13:54

shovel_boss srsly, altcoin scams ? get a job eh.

13:54

$15k investment. we'kk be rich

13:55

mircea_popescu, i dont do scams

13:55

i dont buy the coins i do TA on

13:55

and its pretty obvious what i buy

13:55

shovels...

13:55

i do TA for free and its mediocre

13:55

works +50%

13:55

"There will be an upcoming $15k invesment"

13:55

that's not "ta".

13:55

mircea_popescu, look at the volume

13:55

there WAS a 15k investment

13:56

this is besides the point.

13:56

i go insider info on that one

13:56

so it's not that "you do ta".

13:56

yes i do

13:56

i rarely reject to do a TA

13:56

i do it for anyone and everyone

13:57

that's also besides the point.

13:57

im almost all the TA i do i mention what indicators i use

13:57

mircea, you're speaking to a wall

13:57

esspecialy if someone asks me in the chatroom

13:58

analytics is real, there are people actually getting paid to do this in the real world

13:58

analysis*

13:58

said the guy on trial for giving chloral to some dude that died "i just do astrograms. i do them for anything, including your dog if you want. i never refused anyone."

13:58

mircea_popescu, unlike that guy i do it for free

13:58

also you mentioned it was a vanity chan

13:58

dignork

shovel_boss | i go insider info on that one <<< mental note to myself, do not share any info

13:58

i renamed it

13:58

i listen to the comunity

13:59

usagi +v failed; L1: 0, L2: -5

13:59

shovel_boss none of these are cogent points you know.

13:59

!up usagi

13:59

mircea_popescu, you do know i only post my TA there as a microvlog

13:59

to keep track of it

13:59

usagi

lol

13:59

!down TheNewDeal

13:59

i dont do it for pump and dump

13:59

how can i pump and dump 4 coins each day?

14:00

have you looked at the timeframe that that TA predicts?

14:00

some of them are weeks

14:00

shovel_boss so you do 4 a day for weeks each, this is no counter.

14:00

mircea_popescu, tell me why what i do is bad

14:01

i already stopped posting my ad here cause i know you will bash it

14:01

looks like youre jealous or something?

14:01

sigh.

14:01

i dont see how my chan is different than this

14:01

!down shovel_boss

14:01

there will be no !bashing here

14:03

<asciilifeform> or was that vulpes << don't know that i ever achieved the kind of skills that an actual machinist can lay claim to, but i've operated the whole standard library in production settings.

14:04

"The National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism (NIAAA), as part of the U.S. National Institutes of Health, supports and conducts biomedical and behavioral research on the causes, consequences, treatment, and prevention of alcoholism and alcohol-related problems. The NIAAA functions both as a funding agency that supports research by external research institutions and as a research institution itself, where alco

14:04

hol research is carried out in‐house. It funds approximately 90 percent of all such research in the United States and promotes reductions in the per capita consumption of alcohol. NIAAA also provides leadership in the national effort to reduce the severe and sometimes fatal consequences of these problems."

14:04

this counts as science now.

14:04

<mircea_popescu> i thought vulpes was a blowupitem-ist << also blew some stuff up, also built some "rockets", also designed some components for rockets.

14:04

shit that's 90% produced by a govt agency with a clear agenda, is taken as "science". what the holy shit.

14:05

ben_vulpes: i recently acquired a full set of jungle-grade machine tools, but am no more a machinist than were i to buy violin, would be violinist

14:05

just watch a youtube and keep your clothing clear, there's not much to basic machining

14:06

ben_vulpes: but i like to think that i could earn my bread shaving metal one day, if it comes to this

14:06

asciilifeform hey listen, most singers on mtv don't even own their equipment

14:06

so i'd say by prevailing marketplace standards you ARE a violinist.

14:06

boeing pilots don't typically own the boeing

14:06

LOL

14:07

asciilifeform: how jungle?

14:07

cnc?

14:07

ben_vulpes: hand-cranked 'sherlines'

14:07

nice.

14:07

oh man

14:07

in terms of cnc, only a small 2d laser

14:07

(had it for a while)

14:08

best part of building stuff with hand operated tooling is the hard requirement of simple geometric shapes and wide tolerances.

14:08

pankkake: Perhaps using a name that looks "real" would work << you can prolly legally change your name to say Pan K. Kake

14:08

all the kids i did my m.e. studies with designed stuff with crazy tolerances and absurd geometries - "because the machine can do it"

14:09

no consideration of programming costs or tooling complexities or anything.

14:09

ben_vulpes: with simple tools, one can theoretically make everything (with possible exception of lead screws) for nicer set

14:09

ben_vulpes: 'triangular drills will drill all his square holes!'

14:09

this self-upgrading thing is fascinating eh asciilifeform ?

14:09

zero radius corners

14:09

mhm

14:10

mircea_popescu: self-upgrading << the expensive tools - weren't dropped to earth by the gods

14:11

some things are going to be hard no matter what

14:11

the races, for example :D

14:11

really makes the point that there's no "can't", just "won't".

14:11

jokes aside, the ball bearings in the races are going to be tricky for jungle operators.

14:11

ben_vulpes: i'm personally interested in (long term) genuinely weird things

14:12

like machines with no lead screws or rails in the ordinary sense

14:12

ballscrews can get nasty

14:12

ballscrews are rad

14:12

ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-02-2014#506252

14:12

Logged on 16-02-2014 00:31:00; asciilifeform: 2 yrs. ago i figured out how to flex a fairly ordinary multi-conductor cable in an arbitrary spot, at an arbitrary angle, purely electrically.

14:13

i do recall

14:13

that is weird as fuck

14:13

but expected

14:13

and http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-08-2014#801776

14:13

Logged on 20-08-2014 01:47:41; asciilifeform: i bring up electrolytic machining to explore a point - that tech meant for 'jungle conditions' is a very different field from what is presently dealt with by 'sane' engineers.

14:14

my only experience with that sort of stuff is echoes in wafer probe signal lines

14:14

man

14:14

that was a complex bit of hardware

14:14

no need for exotica. ever forget to plug in a 'scsi' terminator ?

14:15

lol have i ever touched a 'scsi' anything

14:15

echo on impedance mismatch - basic physic

14:15

ben_vulpes: Aren't you a Mac person, what useful non-scsi thing plugs into a real Mac?

14:16

BingoBoingo: i'm a nix hacker, i use a mac 'cause its chassis is aluminum

14:16

SLANDER

14:17

*

asciilifeform also owns a mac 'air' for this reason. haven't popped it in a while, even possible that it welded shut

14:17

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONz6S48QgEk#t=126 << found it

14:17

How It's Made Ball Bearings - YouTube

14:17

the jungle toolchain involves lots of cold forging too

14:18

more junkyard archaeology than forgin

14:18

g

14:18

milling's necessary for the forging molds, but forging is inescapable

14:18

asciilifeform: pardon?

14:19

pops up in the video "bearings are like invisible heroes inside mechanical devices"

14:19

dumb shit like that's why i mute fab videos

14:19

^

14:20

fucking usability freaks make evertyhing sound like it's addressed to 12 yos.

14:20

obnoxious, maleducated 12 yos.

14:20

Intiendo un poco

14:22

BingoBoingo that Deborah Hannay chgick is so totally going to understand what you meant with the kant example.

14:23

ben_vulpes: what cannot be made (e.g. i've presently no forge) must be unearthed and reshaped.

14:24

mircea_popescu: Maybe the example is to impose the reality upon Hannay that not everyone is her equal, and to accomplish that as rapidly as possible?

14:24

to quote pesto, "that ain;t gonna work"

14:25

asciilifeform: principles are pretty simple. lotsa force, high rigidity.

14:25

*

asciilifeform ball bearings << was given a large bottle of bearing balls to play with as a boy. beautiful things.

14:25

ibeams, hydraulics, maybe some guides...

14:26

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15422 @ 0.00084108 = 12.9711 BTC [-]

14:26

* asciilifeform ball bearings << was given a large bottle of bearing balls to play with as a boy. beautiful things. << me too. i ate them.

14:26

lol!

14:26

i also ate ~80% of the glass beads of a chinese chess set

14:26

cracked the shitter ?

14:26

nope

14:26

as far as anyone knows i never shat out any of this.

14:27

http://jocuridincopilarie.ro/imagini/jocuri-de-interior/jocuri-pe-tabla-de-joc/sah-chinezesc.jpg << the set in question

14:27

hm, what's that magnet company the usg's trying to put out of business?

14:27

i suspect we'll all have some amazing mechanical surprises when self-appendectomy time

14:27

AMAZING COMPANY!

14:27

tell me how could one not eat those ?

14:28

ben_vulpes: magnet company << 'bucky-balls'

14:28

*

asciilifeform owns a pre-ban set

14:28

don't let it staple your intestines together...

14:28

yeah that shit's dangerous for little mps.

14:29

just don't eat 2+.

14:30

what do american children play with instead of bearing ball. and do i even want to know.

14:30

URGENT: Seeking child-size degaussing machine

14:31

jurov: afaik you can only demagnetize NdFeB by heating to 'curie point'

14:31

~300 C...

14:32

lol jurov

14:32

uh

14:32

<mircea_popescu> yeah that shit's dangerous for little mps.// well does the world really need (can it stand) little mps

14:32

then again - magnet is small, and will probably reach a momentary 300 if you heat through meat with induction loop

14:33

what's worse for health - pinched gut, or small zap ?

14:33

asciilifeform cheaper to laparoscopy it away

14:33

derp "usagi: Punkman, #bitcoin-assets is quickly becoming irelevant. The slice is almost too small now. Kind of sad, but I could have told you this would happen."

14:33

chetty on that subject, socrates is silent.

14:33

'where there is no laparoscope'

14:33

(apologies to 'paladin press''s 'where there is no doctor')

14:33

where there is no laparoscope there'd better not be feromagnets.

14:33

there's self-appendectomy

14:34

punkman if the guy has the sense to not publish his own derpage, why would you, you know ?

14:35

o it was in -otc

14:35

i never ate the bearing balls. but these were big. (tank bearings?)

14:35

but yes point taken

14:35

~1cm

14:35

2

14:35

!s usagi bird

14:35

7 results for 'usagi bird' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=usagi+bird

14:35

The number of no-knock raids has increased from 3,000 in 1981 to more than 50,000 in 2005, according to Peter Kraska, a criminologist at Eastern Kentucky University in Richmond.

14:35

obligatory https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beA99BVTFJ0

14:35

The Lilac Breasted Usagi Bird - YouTube

14:36

no data for 2005-2014. what would it be, 750k ?

14:36

mircea_popescu: 'no-knock' originated with 'but they'll flush the dope'

14:36

yeah.

14:36

now it's more or less SOP

14:36

meanwhile, it's killed more innocent bystanders than the wars in iraq.

14:37

;;google solzhenitsyn axe

14:37

Quote by Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn : “And how we burned in the ...: <http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/34738-and-how-we-burned-in-the-camps-later-thinking-what>; Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn Quotes (Author of One Day in the Life of ...: <http://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/10420.Aleksandr_Solzhenitsyn>; The Gulag Archipelago - Wikiquote: (1 more message)

14:37

usagi +v failed; L1: 0, L2: -5

14:37

!up usagi

14:39

Two former Los Angeles Police Department officers, along with 13 others, have plead guilty to running a robbery ring, which used fake no-knock raids as a ruse to catch victims off guard. The defendants would then steal cash and drugs to sell on the street. This tactic led Radley Balko, editor of Reason Magazine, to complain "So not only can you not be sure the people banging down your door at night are the police, not

14:39

only can you not be sure theyre the police even if they say theyre the police, you cant even be sure its safe to let them in even if they are the police."

14:39

BingoBoingo you know, people who live in decent places tend to assume the us is similarly a decent place, and readily forget the sort of rogue shithole it actually is.

14:40

Tracy Ingle was shot in his house five times during a no-knock raid in North Little Rock, Arkansas. After the police entered the house Tracy thought armed robbers had entered the house and intended to scare them away with a non-working gun. The police expected to find drugs, but none were found. He was brought to the intensive care, but police pulled him out of intensive care for questioning, after which they arrested

14:40

him and charged him with assault on the officers who shot him.

14:40

Indeed

14:41

most people in usa will read this and ask 'but was he an untermensch ?' and go back to sleep

14:41

well, in what sense ?

14:41

yes, he wasn't a police officer.

14:42

in the sense that wasn't 'office plankton'

14:42

<asciilifeform> most people in usa will read this and ask 'but was he an untermensch ?' and go back to sleep// who said they were awake to go back to sleep

14:42

(preferably white, but optional)

14:42

xmj: RagnarDanneskjol: "It's not what you know, it's whom you know" - said no smart person ever. << i've said it.

14:43

outside of "whom you know", "what you know" simply reduces to "what you think you know" and nobody got time for that.

14:43

generally, plankton response is 'this fellow couldn't have been a good upstanding plankton'

14:44

as far as the police state is concerned, nobody else is good anything. just listen to one of the fuckwits go.

14:45

police state is never wholly the polizei themselves, but also all such that 'it would never do, polite society!' for them to drag out in the night

14:45

take sunil dutta, the convicted felon who still has a death warrant outstanding on his head.

14:45

"You dont know what is in my mind when I stop you"

14:46

as if anyone gives a flying fuck what's on "his mind". what's he supposed to be, the hive overlord or some shit ?

14:46

mircea_popescu: it's binary

14:46

sunil << i suppose not every kid from bombay makes his way to solicitor general of new york

14:46

in that context

14:47

asciilifeform im sure they don't.

14:47

so, if you don't know no one OR don't know nothing, either won't help you

14:47

xmj i jus' quoted what you said.

14:48

not that im proposing ted rubin knows anyone, or is relevant to anything.

14:51

eightyeight how did you get that gif drawn ?

14:52

then you're missing the context we discussed earlier

14:53

;;gettrust eightyeight

14:53

Currently authenticated from hostmask eightyeight!~aaron@oalug/member/eightyeight. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user eightyeight: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=eightyeight | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=eightyeight | Rated since: Wed Aug 27 11:48:10 2014

14:53

mircea_popescu: i have a shell script. i can get it for you. one sec

14:54

i think there is actually a bug with it. i just haven't had the chance to look at it actually

14:54

also i dunno if you know http://pgp.cs.uu.nl/mk_path.cgi?FROM=8086060F&TO=2FB7B452&PATHS=Find+Trust+Paths+To+Me

14:54

PGP trust paths : Aaron Toponce -> Mircea Popescu

14:55

penning's stuff

14:55

mircea_popescu: http://ae7.st/p/6n2

14:55

Pastebin. » 6n2

14:56

you need gnupg, imagemagick, and graphviz installed

14:57

mircea_popescu: i saw your comment on my blog re: my retort to dr. green on his assesment about pgp

14:57

got this running on a server anywhere ?

14:57

o that's right, that was your blog

14:57

got what running on a server?

14:57

that fucktard greene ffs.

14:57

the script in question.

14:58

i just run it locally when i get new signatures or when i sign new keys

14:58

ben_vulpes hey, how about offering teh interested people a nice drawing of their gpg wot ? they gotta put the address in anyway, you got the dependencies anyway...

14:58

depending on the size of your web of trust, it could take a few minutes

14:59

and, like i said, it has a bug that was brought to my attention. i just haven't addressed it. maybe i can get to that tonight

14:59

;;gettrust assbot eightyeight

14:59

Currently authenticated from hostmask eightyeight!~aaron@oalug/member/eightyeight. Trust relationship from user assbot to user eightyeight: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=eightyeight | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=eightyeight | Rated since: Wed Aug 27 11:48:10 2014

15:00

;;rate eightyeight 1 linux gnu guy..

15:00

Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user eightyeight has been recorded.

15:00

sweet. thx. :)

15:00

danielpbarron: thx also. :)

15:00

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/investigation/al-sharpton-764312

15:00

Al Sharpton's Secret Work As FBI Informant | The Smoking Gun

15:02

ahahahha al sharpton ?!

15:02

chetty check that shit out.

15:04

Yup, Sharpton's a stoolie

15:10

mircea_popescu: oh, you also need 'signing-party' installedfor sig2dot(1)

15:12

<kakobrekla>aaand action! << lmao smartass :D

15:14

"As Sarkeesian points out, you may get a mission to hunt down a brutal pimp, but you'll never get a mission to get the hooker he's just beaten to a pulp to the hospital, nor do you unlock achievements by visiting her at a shelter or helping her get re-established elsewhere. These women exist solely to be victimized, so that you can murder the bad guys without any scruple."

15:14

holy shit what sort of bullshit is this. who wants a MISSION to take battered sluts to the er.

15:15

i'd rather do my own laundry.

15:16

<assbot> Al Sharpton's Secret Work As FBI Informant | The Smoking Gun// uh, what was ever secret about that?

15:16

well he denied it all these years.

15:16

"Over the years I have told a number of friends that, if I had had access to a nuclear device when I was in seventh grade, there would be a huge crater in upstate New York centered on what used to be West Seneca Junior High School.

15:16

Had Orson Scott Cards novel Enders Game existed then, I might have been one of its biggest fans. I would have been enraptured by the story of the innocent who is persecuted despite his innocence, perhaps even because of it. The superior child whose virtues are not recognized. The adults who fail to protect. The vicious bullies who get away with their bullying. That was the world as I saw it in seventh grade. "

15:16

jajajajaja

15:17

bah these kids aren't beaten enough.

15:17

everrrry worthless pencilneck 7yo is "superior" in his own fucktarded brain.

15:17

notwithstanding he sucks at anything and everything. "he's too good for this world"

15:17

where this was dug out ?

15:18

asciilifeform some fucktarded "commentary" on some pulp sf thing. http://www4.ncsu.edu/~tenshi/Killer_000.htm

15:18

Creating the Innocent Killer

15:19

'if I had had access to a nuclear device when I was in seventh grade' << obligatory >> http://www.cultdeadcow.com/cDc_files/cDc-0232.txt

15:19

"if i wasn't a snot-nosed worthjless sack of shit back when i was a snot-nosed worthless sack of shit"

15:19

herpy-derp.

15:19

mircea_popescu: CUT!

15:21

"When passing the ball, you throw gently, so as the other person can

15:21

catch it. On the other hand, when passing to Fred, you try to break his nose!"

15:32

That's ok, because Fred's parents were cockolds and his bull was the NBA star. Fred insists on this treatment to prepare him for handling harried sloppy passes in games that mattter.

15:35

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00084456 = 14.3575 BTC [+]

15:39

;;ud pastie white girl

15:39

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pasties | pasty. A person with white skin. Not just white, like paper. But whiter! VERY WHITE ... Girl: OMG WHAT IS THAT GLOWING IN THE HALLWAY??? Girl 2: Thats ...

15:54

http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/08/27/1921249/dot-proposes-mandating-vehicle-to-vehicle-communications

15:54

DoT Proposes Mandating Vehicle-To-Vehicle Communications - Slashdot

16:01

<mircea_popescu> ben_vulpes hey, how about offering teh interested people a nice drawing of their gpg wot ? they gotta put the address in anyway, you got the dependencies anyway... << like i ain't got enough to do with van already

16:02

but yeah not a bad thing

16:02

srecno

16:02

ctrl -z

16:02

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24500 @ 0.00084456 = 20.6917 BTC [+] {2}

16:03

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52188 @ 0.0008429 = 43.9893 BTC [-] {2}

16:03

http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/08/18/2338243/news-aggregator-fark-adds-misogyny-ban << linked from above

16:03

News Aggregator Fark Adds Misogyny Ban - Slashdot

16:04

and, better yet, http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/08/22/1441200/33-months-in-prison-for-recording-a-movie-in-a-theater

16:04

33 Months In Prison For Recording a Movie In a Theater - Slashdot

16:17

BingoBoingo, and to anyone interested, a 30day high, low, volume and vwap is available at https://www.x-bt.com/api/atcbtc/get_ticker_ext

16:21

Cool, thanks Apocalyptic

~ 57 minutes ~

17:18

missed the ball bearing talk but my old man was a fitter n turner, use to bring me home "marbles" the size of a tennis ball to take to school, many tears over smashed marbles

17:28

;;ticker

17:28

Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 516.01, Best ask: 518.75, Bid-ask spread: 2.74000, Last trade: 518.86, 24 hour volume: 7090.67615405, 24 hour low: 508.28, 24 hour high: 523.09, 24 hour vwap: 516.076766915

17:29

%t

17:29

[X-BT] Bid: 175 Ask: 221 Last Price: 175 24h-Vol: 0k High: N/A Low: N/A VWAP: N/A

17:29

%d

17:29

[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 259052.14 in 1662 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -86.21

17:32

just about to add in the '%vwap' command here in a few minutes.

17:34

Sweet

17:34

ok time for an opinion

17:35

< BitOTTer1> [X-BT VWAP] Bid: 175 Ask: 221 Last Price: 175 30d-Vol: 2M 30d-High: 250 30d-Low: 170 30d-VWAP: 198 << 30d-vol is actually 1.72 M, but seems to be rounding to 2M, should i just print full amount, or 1720k?

17:38

devthedev +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0

17:38

!up devthedev

17:39

How's everyone doing?

17:39

Thanks Apocalyptic

17:41

Not bad

17:41

devthedev: who're you?

17:41

Hey BingoBoingo (:

17:41

mod6: 1720k seems most reasonable

17:41

yea, im gonna try to fix that too, the rounding isn't even close.

17:41

just a moment

17:42

ben_vulpes: He's a kid who hangs around the forum and some other places, seems mostly harmless

17:42

sounds exactly like me then

17:42

Nice to meet you Ben.

17:42

yourself as well

17:42

;;gettrust devthedev

17:42

Currently authenticated from hostmask devthedev!~devthedev@unaffiliated/devthedev. Trust relationship from user ben_vulpes to user devthedev: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=ben_vulpes&dest=devthedev | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=devthedev | Rated since: Tue Jul 15 12:31:42 2014

17:43

what you're the dev for?

17:43

Nothing at the moment.

17:44

and otherwise?

17:44

I do some web development.

17:45

I've had to give it a break because school just started back up :/

17:45

what tools?

17:46

I'm not sure I understand the questions

17:46

question*

17:47

what you develop in

17:47

devthedev: can you auth with gribble?

17:47

I thought I had

17:47

;;ident

17:47

Nick 'BingoBoingo', with hostmask 'BingoBoingo!~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo', is not identified.

17:47

;;ident devthedev

17:47

Nick 'devthedev', with hostmask 'devthedev!~devthedev@unaffiliated/devthedev', is identified as user 'devthedev', with GPG key id 84E2D89445C1BEA5, key fingerprint 57AD057E646B305C8D6ECBF036C0C43082715843, and bitcoin address 1GUsEgNhMUq1tAAje63SpHp5bLHdz12mdY

17:47

php?

17:47

Cool, I guess gribble blinked on me

17:47

javascript?

17:47

COBOL?

17:48

Negative, I'm just starting to dig into PHP and JS. I mainly just do HTML/CSS.

17:48

;;rate devthedev 1 kid, seems harmless

17:48

Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user devthedev has been recorded.

17:50

on unrelated note, i today kinda understood haskell monads

17:51

and no, i won't blog it, it was underwhelming in the end

17:51

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6212 @ 0.00084274 = 5.2351 BTC [-]

17:52

also i have some suspicion why it was chosen to prototype perl6

17:53

%vwap

17:53

[X-BT VWAP] Bid: 175 Ask: 221 Last Price: 175 30d-Vol: 1721k 30d-High: 250 30d-Low: 170 30d-VWAP: 198

17:54

Beautiful

17:54

ok, it'll have to be like that for now, will work on that volume rounding part.

17:54

dub

1721killasatoshi?

17:54

dub

dafuq

17:55

Apocalyptic pls switch to libraries of congress

17:57

or whatever #b-a stamdard like double cherry truckful of coins

18:02

!up mike_c

18:02

TheNewDeal: indeed, the site knew I was on vacation and has been throwing a tantrum. My apologies. I beat it appropriately and it is back on track.

18:02

thx bingo

18:02

thank you sir, much appreciated

18:05

Another recent fuck you from Armory: The latest version creates incompatible tx's with old versions.. So you can't use the new version online to create a tx for an older version serving as an offline cold wallet.

18:05

they are really managing to screw up a decent wallet.

18:06

jurov, lulwhat ?

18:06

i'm referring to 30d-Vol: 1721k

18:07

if you're refering to the format of that number, that's mod6's bot :)

18:07

sry

18:08

fixed it... one sec.

18:08

jeeeze

18:08

np

18:09

%vwap

18:09

[X-BT VWAP] Bid: 175 Ask: 221 Last Price: 175 30d-Vol: 1.72M 30d-High: 250 30d-Low: 170 30d-VWAP: 198

18:09

better? :P

18:12

bueller?

18:12

hah hah

18:12

;;seen bueller

18:12

I have not seen bueller.

18:18

<jurov> and no, i won't blog it, it was underwhelming in the end << my experience with haskell writ large

18:19

%v

18:19

[X-BT VWAP] Bid: 175 Ask: 221 Last Price: 175 30d-Vol: 1.72M 30d-High: 250 30d-Low: 170 30d-VWAP: 198

18:19

*

mod6 drops the mic

18:24

;;ticker --last

18:24

514.31

18:24

;;calc (ticker --last)*2.09*1.07*

18:24

Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (<string>, line 1)

18:25

hows that work

18:25

;;calc (ticker --last)*2.09*1.07

18:25

Error: 'ticker' is not a defined function.

18:25

TomServo

;;calc [ticker --last]*2.09*1.07

18:25

TomServo

;;calc [ticker --last]*2.09*1.07

18:25

1150.598713

18:25

there we go

18:34

!up redfder

18:45

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 78 @ 0.01186496 = 0.9255 BTC [-] {8}

18:55

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34139 @ 0.00084219 = 28.7515 BTC [-] {2}

18:56

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31611 @ 0.00084672 = 26.7657 BTC [+] {2}

~ 40 minutes ~

19:37

Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment" http://bitbet.us/bet/786/ Odds: 85(Y):15(N) by coin, 87(Y):13(N) by weight. Total bet: 1312.82551814 BTC. Current weight: 50,985.

~ 15 minutes ~

19:52

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00084348 = 15.0983 BTC [-]

20:00

original yes on the brk-a bet is yielding 17.5%, not bad at all

20:06

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2050 @ 0.00084348 = 1.7291 BTC [-]

~ 29 minutes ~

20:36

;;view 21351

20:36

#21351 Mon Aug 25 19:39:07 2014 nubbins` SELL 1.0 'What is Bitcoin?' silkscreened art print @ 35 USD (18x24", 5-color silkscreen on white Cougar acid-free paper, limited edition of 50, pre-order price only, shipping week of August 31, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=756955.0)

20:36

^^ only 16 left

20:38

nice!

20:42

how much does it cost to laminate nubbins` ?

20:42

;)

20:42

THE FUCK

20:42

;(

20:42

just trolling

20:42

ima get mine framed

20:44

atta guy

20:46

mp bought 50?

20:55

ben_vulpes: like i ain't got enough to do with van already << yeah like that lol. hey, beats unemployment, depression and doom.

20:56

The doom part isn't so bad

20:57

asciilifeform ") While the site isn't as popular as during the early 2000s, the privately run discussion forum has continued and has its champions." << ha-ha. fark was popular in the 200s ? what is this, taking advantage of the noobness of the average internet user, "he wasn;t there so who;s to know" ?

20:57

windows 7 isn't as popular today as in the 2000s :D

20:59

NHTSA believes that V2V capability will not develop absent regulation, because there would not be any immediate safety benefits for consumers who are early adopters of V2V." <<< uhhh.... so then ?

20:59

and ffs, why put it on cars and light trucks ? put it on heavy trucks.

21:01

mod6: vol is actually 1.72 M, but seems to be rounding to 2M, should i just print full amount, or 1720k? << how about you print 1.72M

21:02

jurov: and no, i won't blog it, it was underwhelming in the end <<< this.

21:03

mike_c: they are really managing to screw up a decent wallet. <<< ya srsly, wtf is going on there.

21:03

TheNewDeal: original yes on the brk-a bet is yielding 17.5%, not bad at all << also underwater atm.

21:06

september, october, november, december, january, february... there's a bit of time

21:07

it's still underwater.

21:07

and the position that's actually prevailing atm returns 600% or something.

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http://pastebin.com/8eKWtB1P check out this fuckwit lol.

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Re:The real crime here (Score:5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday Augu - Pastebin.com

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so because the us forces insane people into homelessness while medicating the shit out of kids and young adults that'd benefit immensely from a good beating,

21:11

how about everyone stops sending the likes of the usg bureaucracy to prison, too!

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flawless logic.

21:15

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Njt5FsU5Xc

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Virtual rape hard to track in online gaming, police say - YouTube

21:17

ahahahHAHAHAHA

21:17

i think i've heard it all now, how do you top virtual rape

21:18

WellGoodGames 13 hours ago sniff I was virtually murdered in call of duty and the police did nothing!

21:18

LasermanSteam2 hours ago Getting murdered in video games triggers me because it brings back the memories of me being murdered in real life.

21:19

losing my voice :(

21:19

;;google losing my religion

21:19

Losing My Religion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Losing_My_Religion>; R.E.M. - Losing My Religion (Official Music Video) - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if-UzXIQ5vw>; R.E.M. - Losing My Religion (Video) - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwtdhWltSIg>

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00084135 = 2.6082 BTC [-]

21:35

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10668 @ 0.00084152 = 8.9773 BTC [+] {2}

21:37

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2118705/Photos-lost-phone-Chinese-gangster-bad-boy-lifestyle.html

21:37

Photos found on lost phone of 'Chinese gangster' show his bad-boy lifestyle | Mail Online

21:37

"This picture presumably shows a rival who has been beaten and is being humiliated by the man and his gang"

21:37

umm... no, it shows guy trying to get shoe on head prize.

21:39

meanwhile at white knight central, http://tallguy-64.deviantart.com/art/Humiliated-Black-and-White-265791060 "black and white version of a picture I did a while ago to help spread awareness of social injustice"

21:39

ah interwebs...

21:40

wow, it gets better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcNqdfL3AZM

21:40

Gamer harassed online after speaking out about 'virtual rape' - YouTube

21:40

did he get virtually raped ?

21:41

i wonder if all these despicable fucktards trying to get on the me-too rape gravy train realise how much damage they're doing to actual women actually getting raped.

21:42

we're literal years away from would-be starlets releasing their rape tape much like their grandmothers releases sex tapes in the 90s,

21:42

and from there to rape glamor is a short path indeed. and it will not be because what mp said about rape,

21:42

it'll be because of what social media fucktards said about it.

21:43

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.0008432 = 14.3344 BTC [+] {2}

21:46

well, they spoke to a rape counsellor in that 2nd video and she thinks this cyber rape is just as real as irl rape

21:47

there was another chick a few months back claiming ptsd from twitter http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2605888/Woman-claims-PTSD-Twitter-cyberstalking-says-bit-war-veterans.html

21:47

Woman claims she has PTSD from Twitter and cyberstalking | Mail Online

21:55

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-tsarnaev-bomb-threat-20140827-story.html << Speech in the USSA

21:55

Tsarnaev sister arrested on suspicion of making a bomb threat - LA Times

21:58

cazalla why wouldn't she ? if you spoke to a black country miner cca 1800 he'd think any hole in the ground is as much a mine as any other if it pays

21:58

<+mircea_popescu> mod6: vol is actually 1.72 M, but seems to be rounding to 2M, should i just print full amount, or 1720k? << how about you print 1.72M << yeah, I got it worked out :)

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%v

21:58

[X-BT VWAP] Bid: 175 Ask: 221 Last Price: 175 30d-Vol: 1.72M 30d-High: 250 30d-Low: 170 30d-VWAP: 198

21:58

nice!

21:59

usagi +v failed; L1: 0, L2: -5

21:59

thx. just took a bit of switching around, should be ok nao :]

21:59

<assbot> Woman claims she has PTSD from Twitter and cyberstalking | Mail Online <<< yeah, and im sure any guy with actual trechn exposure under artillery carpet bombing is more than happy to not smack her a coupla across the skull.,

22:00

i need to update the wiki

22:00

trivializing actual issues in a neverending quest for online cred is definitely working so well for everyone o.o

22:00

!up usagi

22:00

usagi

Did you miss the part where they said these were mod games (like garrysmod)? These aren't videos about attacks, they're videos about people making movies with mod tools.

22:01

usagi

The whole thing is a troll

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So

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you know calling trollage "a troll" makes baby jesus a cry.

22:02

any one here read leo katz's books?

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(american jurist)

22:03

'why the law is so perverse' (2011) is a real riot.

22:04

BingoBoingo, speaking of bomb threats https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz8yLIOb2pU

22:04

The Creatures (Kootra) got SWAT Raided (SWATTED) #FreeKootra2014 - YouTube

22:06

asciilifeform nope.

22:06

if anyone knows how to update the wiki I've got some updates: http://dpaste.com/1J7F4E3

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dpaste: 1J7F4E3

22:07

I haven't seen moiety around in a while

22:07

kakobrekla mod6 should prolly be allowed neh ?

22:07

mod6: i recall - she starved

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asciilifeform: :(

22:08

"Why arent there any in-between verdicts?" << this cant be a good summary.

22:08

bad summary.

22:08

the very fucking point of the legal system as an interllecual exercise is as a reality digitizer.

22:09

the book is quite like the 'rule of law is a myth' piece (http://faculty.msb.edu/hasnasj/GTWebSite/MythWeb.htm - linked here a few times) except that katz hasn't let go of his religion yet

22:09

anyway, law as (mis)practiced in the us suffers greatly from a broken application. the legal system exists and is borne out of a wider social system based on hierarchy and personal sovereignity. such as, the classical monarchy.

22:09

so he described the hilarious talmudic gymnastics he and his colleagues insist on to justify various things.

22:10

trying to make the law democratic by sourcing it in a parliament and applying it according to "what people think" can't possibly work and yhas no alternative but to degrade into soup

22:10

the book is a beautiful illustration of this.

22:10

aite then :)

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(a good bit of it is devoted to the elaborate contortions jurists go through to dodge - unsuccessfully - godelization)

22:11

right.

22:12

in general anyone with a solid education reading enough law and praxis to form an opinion inescapably forms the opinion that "this shitpile is made by remarkably uneducated folks"

22:12

;;golden shower

22:12

Error: "golden" is not a valid command.

22:12

;;ud golden shower

22:12

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Golden%20Shower | The act of urinating on another person, usually for sexual gratification, or as a way of humiliation. More common than a Golden bath, where, during...

22:12

which... it is. just like code written picemeal by freelancer php developers will shock and amaze anyone who ever took a systems design class

22:13

TheNewDeal http://trilema.com/2011/moment-de-intimitate-n-baie/

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Moment de intimitate-n baie pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

22:13

there is, ofcourse, a trilema article about this :D

22:13

that's not in my tongue!

22:13

how many bladder-fulls in a 'golden bath' ?

22:13

doubtful that merely one pisser could suffice

22:14

asciilifeform it's homeopathic dood. you piss and dilute.

22:14

scam.

22:14

hahh

22:14

Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/36VBQ6R.txt )

22:14

!b 5

22:14

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14794 @ 0.00084229 = 12.4608 BTC [-] {3}

22:14

TheNewDeal it's not supposed to be on your tongue, it's supposed to be on hers.

22:15

by that token, any bath taken in the chesapeake bay (a notoriously putrid body of water where i live) is golden.

22:15

:o

22:15

who is arguing against this ?

22:15

lol not me.

22:15

http://www.leoslyrics.com/animaniacs/states-and-capitals-lyrics/

22:15

STATES AND CAPITALS - ANIMANIACS LYRICS

22:15

grep for "they have wonderful clam chowder"

22:16

ahaha

22:17

i guess this is the birth of "clam chowder" as a slang way to denote piss, on the expectation that well... average cunt is delighted to chomp on a jet.

22:17

chomp(chowdah)

22:17

mircea_popescu did he ask?

22:17

I WAS CVASIRAPED BY THE #BITCOIN-ASSETS LOGS!!!

22:17

mod6 you gotta sk to get wiki cred.

22:18

dollars to doughnuts, american jurists are busy reaming the 'eggshell skull' doctrine to cover asciirape, etc.

22:18

hey kakobrekla, can I get access to the wiki so I can update for the recent bot changes? Also, I'd like to see about setting an anchor there so if someone actually clicks on that one link it'll take 'em to the correct bracket below.

22:19

ok

22:19

cool!

22:20

!s animaniacs

22:20

12 results for 'animaniacs' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=animaniacs

22:20

o just the guy i wanted to see.

22:21

hoo me?

22:21

asciilifeform yeah well that caselaw is ridiculous bs and wouldn't stand.

22:22

!up degenerate

22:22

no you're not

22:23

since im setting this up anyone else wants wiki access?

22:24

yes

22:25

me too

22:25

pm me your emails

22:26

dub

don't do it, scam

22:26

http://www.w3schools.com/php/php_file_upload.asp

22:26

PHP File Upload

22:26

;;ident kakobrekla

22:26

Nick 'kakobrekla', with hostmask 'kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla', is identified as user 'kakobrekla', with GPG key id 27AF75321F2489E8, key fingerprint 27C3CE9A20851312F086268C27AF75321F2489E8, and bitcoin address None

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php_file_upload

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dot

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asp

22:26

i found fractals in the fractals

22:26

shit dub lives ?!

22:27

"By using the global PHP $_FILES array you can upload files from a client computer to the remote server."

22:30

http://www.salon.com/1999/08/23/prisons_3/ << isn't it fascinating how different pre-2001 and post-2001 liberal media reads ?

22:30

Rape as a disciplinary tactic - Salon.com

22:35

penguirker

New blog post: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/08/27_city-of-bridges-here-and-there.html

22:37

xanthyos +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0

22:37

!up xanthyos

22:37

and with that im off . later

22:37

thanks kako!

22:37

donkdown freeroll, 380 registered of 315. "i am the most respected name in internet poker." (bryan micon)

22:38

;;google most respected name in internet poker

22:38

NJ's Internet Poker Market on the Verge of a Breakthrough: <http://njpokeronline.net/1397/nj-online-poker-traffic-report-growth-possible-june/>; NJ Internet Poker Site Reviews Archives - New Jersey Poker Online: <http://njpokeronline.net/category/reviews/>; Best Internet Poker Sites - Online Poker Sites | PokerNews: <http://www.pokernews.com/sites/>

22:41

sweet, got the wiki updated easily. and got that link to point down to the atcbot section too. kewl

22:42

I went straight for the bot edits too - wouldn't let me b/c you were in there. Neat

22:46

say DoctorBTC you have some visitors a la http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/08/25/a-law-enforcement-encounter-if-you-ran-a-bitcoin-related-service-before-the-thing-hit-100-you-prolly-ought-to-be-somewhat-concerned-andor-prepared/ ?

22:46

A Law Enforcement Encounter: If you ran a Bitcoin related service before the thing hit $100 you prolly ought to be somewhat concerned and/or prepared | Bingo Blog

22:46

!up sealsy

22:47

i added a WoT link to my name in that wiki page also - hope that was ok. I don't love that little globe that pops in there but w/e. Any thoughts?

22:49

link "?

22:52

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2408 @ 0.00084135 = 2.026 BTC [-]

22:53

mircea_popescu: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots << just updated some links in the atcbot top section, and cleaned up the bottom command section: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots#atcbot-commands

22:53

irc_bots [bitcoin assets wiki]

22:53

irc_bots [bitcoin assets wiki]

22:55

i linked this to my name in the page: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=mod6

22:55

#bitcoin-otc gpg key data

22:56

all seems to work good.

22:56

!up devthedev

22:57

Thanks (:

22:57

just don't make me regret it :}

22:57

Bingo lives in the US right?

22:57

https://code.google.com/p/end-to-end/wiki/KeyDistribution

22:57

KeyDistribution - end-to-end - High level key distribution / key discovery plans. - End-To-End - Google Project Hosting

22:58

*pokes BingoBoingo*

22:58

devthedev: Well, if I didn't the feds prolly wouldn't have been able to drive down from Peoria

22:59

Yep, was just making sure.

22:59

mandatory 'V2V' << if the bureaucrats simply wanted to enable self-driving cars in dense city traffic, optimized stoplights, etc. - they could mandate a simple radio beacon in tail light lamps (screw-in replacement.) doubt there'd be mass protest - it'd be a machine-vision-friendly version of the light cars are traditionally required to emit anyway. but (no prizes for guessing) - 'V2V' is not about automatic car

22:59

s.

23:04

!s test

23:04

1069 results for 'test' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=test

23:05

(what's it about in reality? real-time tracking of all meat inventory. and, with a little more magic - your car is own gasenwagen when time comes.)

23:06

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6219 @ 0.00084372 = 5.2471 BTC [+]

23:11

xanthyos +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0

23:12

!up xanthyos

23:12

danielpbarron IS STREAMING LIVE ON http://www.donkdown.com/live-radio/ SPEAKING TO SEALSWITHCLUBS FRONTMAN BRYAN MICON LIVE LIVE LIVE

23:12

DonkDown – Live Radio

23:15

he's a professional gambler!!!

23:19

what is this trash?

23:20

this is the confidence game of a snake oil salesman

23:20

he snapped me off clean :<

23:21

he sounds like an ass-clown to me

23:21

wish I would have caught the beginning of your chat

23:21

he didn't keep me on long this time

23:22

i didn't know about this thing he was promoting; it's some sort of FIAT denominated gambling somethingorother

23:24

"this is the second one back" << actually it's the third. the first involved a long discussion with dpb re: the wot

23:24

which got memory holed

23:30

yay, 6 years later I add !s to the wiki

23:35

!up smidge

23:37

smidge, have I mistaken you for someone who gives a fuck?

23:38

<asciilifeform> (what's it about in reality? real-time tracking of all meat inventory. and, with a little more magic - your car is own gasenwagen when time comes.) << they already had a pilot for this. amusingly, it was sold as an expensive ad on for luxury brands. northstar or something.

23:38

for a while there you could steal anyone's car just by pretending to be them, like with a twitter account

23:38

*

smidge slaps TheNewDeal around a bit with a large trout

23:40

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/08/federal-cybersecurity-official-going-to-jail-on-child-porn-charges/

23:40

Cybersecurity official uses Tor but still gets caught with child porn | Ars Technica

23:41

At around 5 am, on the morning of July 18, 1981, six weeks after getting out of prison, Jack Abbott and two women, Veronique de St. Andre and Susan Roxas, went to a small cafe called the Binibon, located at 79 Second Ave in Manhattan. Richard Adan, a 22-year-old aspiring actor and playwright, was there working as a waiter in his father-in-law's restaurant. Abbott got up from his table and asked Richard Adan to direct h

23:41

im to the toilet. Adan explained that the toilet could be reached only through the kitchen, and because the restaurant did not have accident insurance for customers, only employees could use the bathroom. Abbott argued with him. They took their dispute outside, where Abbott stabbed Adan to death.

23:41

dude, srsly ? mahattan coffee house with no urinal ? in 1981 ? what the fuck is wrong with this somalia.

23:43

Manhattan is the urinal

23:44

BingoBoingo they somehow take over a website, use it to deploy malware, and that defeats tor how?

23:44

see, this is why taking two girls to a cafe isn't such a big deal.

23:44

taking two girls eager to swallow if you need to take a leak however..

23:45

TheNewDeal you familiar with the concept of "parallel construction" ?

23:46

I'm just saying, tor wasn't supposed to prevent any of those things from happening (in my limited knowledge)

23:46

;;google "parallel construction"

23:46

Parallel construction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_construction>; Parallel Form - Guide to Grammar and Writing: <http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/parallelism.htm>; How to Use Parallel Construction Correctly - Quick and Dirty Tips: <http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/how-to-use-parallel-construction-correctly>

23:46

it's as if the website owner himself started hosting malware on his site, then people downloaded

23:48

that's why the fbi untruthfully claims to have happened.

23:48

you know it's untruthfully because it's a usg agent.

23:49

I'm confused here. You don't think they were smart enough to deploy malware that would give away information?

23:49

not the contention.

23:50

they used their numerous tor holes and exploits, then claimed to have done what what you seem to believe.

23:51

It's no secret that the biggest open tor flaw is that anyone with enough tor nodes is going to often going to get some users traffic for all three steps

23:52

TheNewDeal lemme put this in more readily digestible terms for you.

23:52

you and a dozen friends all marry super-knockout trophy wives, living in a gated community called "the garden of eden", doing all sorts of fun shit.

23:53

one day a bunch of dudes come in, start raping the women and make the lot of you slurp the cum right out of their battered snatches.

23:53

this is getting incredibly off-topic, but feel free to continue

23:53

this last for a week or so.

23:53

what really happened is that a) they had the keys all along and b) had been tailing you all over town, listening in on your phone conversation, instant messaging and late night cuddle sessions

23:53

then they leave the door open on their way out.

23:54

at trial, it is established beyond reasonable doubt that your negligence in locking the door allowed "some bad people" to come and rape the lot of you, a week after it actually hapepned

23:54

and the police will more than happily try and find those bad people. sometime.

23:55

the actual events (police broke in and rape your fambly) are replaced by the parallel construction (someone came in and did it) on the turning point of "the door being left open".

23:55

an event that factually happened, but at the END of the police-led abuse, not at the beginning of the "unknown" led abuse posited in court paperwork.

23:56

there is also the tired, old, mundane 'there is a kilo of cocaine in your toilet tank' theorem.

23:56

I think the first explanation is much more digestible

23:56

sure but that's too much effort.

23:56

i.e. - on whose word are we to believe that mr. pedo is a pedo ?

23:56

TheNewDeal don't confuse digestion for simply passing things through the system untouched.

23:56

that the packets left his machine as described, or, if they did, that his head had anything to do with it

23:56

or that the contents of his confiscated disk were placed there by his hands

23:57

or, for that matter, exist even in the evidence room, and not merely loaded for the occasion from the prosecutor's private collection.

23:57

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10356 @ 0.00084372 = 8.7376 BTC [+]

23:57

asciilifeform well information wants to be free neh ?

23:57

^ above case strikes me as a textbook case of 'can have problems'

23:58

im waiting for the first presidential indictment.

23:58

hopefully a republican wins before the whole shebang collapses and we get to see it.

23:59

the funny part is - consider, if it were generally known that, e.g, fbi, owned a cocaine teleporter (purpose-built) that specifically sends to toilet tanks - the arrestee could bring this possibility up as a defense

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