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00:00 mircea_popescu i am now getting argentine spam on top of everything
00:08 BingoBoingo Incredibly lulzy https://bitcoinfoundation.org/2014/08/a-bitcoin-backbone/
00:08 assbot A Bitcoin Backbone | The Bitcoin Foundation
00:11 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo matt's backbone thing ? why ?
00:15 BingoBoingo It didn't come from a typical muppet
00:15 BingoBoingo Just really everything it isn't is amazing
00:15 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
00:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24400 @ 0.00063624 = 15.5243 BTC [-] {3}
00:23 mircea_popescu hm ?
00:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.29 = 0.58 BTC [-] {2}
00:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19350 @ 0.00063575 = 12.3018 BTC [-] {2}
00:33 mircea_popescu https://twitter.com/JulianMaroda/status/470406487370502144
00:33 assbot Wtf is this for an app add description!? Punish their women, I mean really? /hashtag/DragonvsGod?src=hash /hashtag/AppStore?src=hash /Kotaku http://t.co/Ut6mtZg016
00:33 mircea_popescu someone's gotta do it.
00:35 asciilifeform 'what is best in life? to crush your enemies, see them driven before you, hear the lamentations of their women.'
00:35 asciilifeform ^ probably referred to this
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00:53 mircea_popescu prolly. chinese corp.
00:59 pete_dushenski o hello
01:02 mircea_popescu hey
01:03 pete_dushenski so this church dood is a piece o work eh
01:03 pete_dushenski never heard of him prior
01:05 mircea_popescu rule34
01:06 pete_dushenski ;;isitup trilema.com
01:06 gribble Error: "isitup" is not a valid command.
01:07 pete_dushenski ;;isitdown trilema.com
01:07 gribble trilema.com is down
01:07 pete_dushenski o ok
01:07 mircea_popescu orly ?
01:07 pete_dushenski rly
01:08 pete_dushenski first they go for mpoe, then trilema, then… the salmon
01:08 pete_dushenski this being war and all
01:08 mircea_popescu yup server crapped out.
01:08 pete_dushenski whoever it is has skillz the canadian armed farces can only dream of
01:08 mircea_popescu will be back later.
01:12 assbot Last 12 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0GZ42BE.txt )
01:12 BingoBoingo !b 12
01:12 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, the process through which girls become wives and us citizens usg informants. << and who precisely did the wives piss off? their fathers?
01:13 mircea_popescu well no, the husband.
01:16 pete_dushenski so how is the husband "the wrong person?"
01:16 mircea_popescu lessee here
01:16 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: like the old u.s. army ad, 'be an army of one.' << i remember these well, wondered if they were effective..
01:18 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski inasmuch as the married female has no rights and no recourse, pissing off her husband is pissing off the wrong guy. she quickly learns not to do that.
01:19 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski trilema back on.
01:19 pete_dushenski *no* rights and *no* recourse? perhaps outside of north america.
01:20 mircea_popescu outside of the very thin sliver of things that is north america 1980-2020ish.
01:20 mircea_popescu and some other places and times, equally narrow to irrelevance.
01:20 pete_dushenski lol fair enough
01:20 pete_dushenski an historical aberration to be sure.
01:21 pete_dushenski and even within this temporal vortex there are married women with wisdom
01:22 mircea_popescu i'm making no value judgement here, merely using an example to illuminate a point.
01:23 pete_dushenski understood.
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01:39 pete_dushenski asciilifeform:jailer turned the entire building on a pivot - with hand crank. << whoa
01:39 pete_dushenski ;;google rotating prison 1800
01:39 gribble Modern Prison History - Drtomoconnor.com: <http://www.drtomoconnor.com/1050/1050lect01a.htm>; The Rotating Prison in the Mountain - story cylinder allegory ...: <http://ask.metafilter.com/78414/The-Rotating-Prison-in-the-Mountain>; Greatest Mathematicians born between 1700 and 1800 A.D.: <http://fabpedigree.com/james/grmatm4.htm>
01:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26722 @ 0.00063946 = 17.0877 BTC [+]
01:54 pete_dushenski til difference between pennsylvania prison system and auburn prison system
01:54 pete_dushenski panopticon vs typical rows
02:08 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: mkay. so in th forest there lived this very horny, huge schlong bear. sort of like one eye pete of the beardom. << with all the petes littering b-a these days, i don't even know if i'm the one who gets to blush at this
02:09 Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Yen to strengthen against Dollar" http://bitbet.us/bet/975/ Odds: 22(Y):78(N) by coin, 28(Y):72(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.5 BTC. Current weight: 68,774.
02:11 pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: average impressions per day. << and here i was thinking that we were moving beyond that broken old quantification of clicks business
02:17 pete_dushenski http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/apr/12/news-is-bad-rolf-dobelli?CMP=twt_gu
02:17 assbot News is bad for you and giving up reading it will make you happier | Media | The Guardian
02:17 pete_dushenski ;;later tell princessnell please to note: "Online news has an even worse impact. In a 2001 study two scholars in Canada showed that comprehension declines as the number of hyperlinks in a document increases."
02:17 gribble The operation succeeded.
02:21 pete_dushenski "So terrorism is over-rated. Chronic stress is under-rated. The collapse of Lehman Brothers is overrated. Fiscal irresponsibility is under-rated. Astronauts are over-rated. Nurses are under-rated. We are not rational enough to be exposed to the press."
02:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38250 @ 0.00063997 = 24.4789 BTC [+] {2}
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03:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39000 @ 0.00063711 = 24.8473 BTC [-] {2}
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03:27 RagnarDanneskjol http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1877050914009466
03:27 assbot A Tiny RSA Cryptosystem based on Arduino Microcontroller Useful for Small Scale Networks
03:31 RagnarDanneskjol http://grothoff.org/christian/gns2014wachs.pdf
03:32 RagnarDanneskjol (A Censorship-Resistant, Privacy-Enhancing and Fully Decentralized Name System) - Gnu Name System
03:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 582 @ 0.00144989 = 0.8438 BTC [-]
03:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9346 @ 0.00063569 = 5.9412 BTC [-]
04:07 mircea_popescu mthreat http://trilema.com/2014/ce-vi-chi/
04:10 mircea_popescu !up mckmuze
04:16 fluffypony that looks nom
04:16 fluffypony I really hope Fat Fish has oysters today
04:16 fluffypony I have a haircut at 12:30 and I feel like oysters for lunch
04:20 BingoBoingo fluffypony You ever set up a mining pool before?
04:20 fluffypony nope
04:20 fluffypony just use NOMP, BingoBoingo
04:20 fluffypony it's pretty easy to setup afaik
04:21 RagnarDanneskjol not exactly that easy once you get into the weeds of it, but doable
04:21 RagnarDanneskjol Bingo - you got my message re ixnay on the livechains, yes?
04:21 BingoBoingo Yeah
04:22 BingoBoingo ;;ident RagnarDanneskjol
04:22 RagnarDanneskjol what is protocol for foot in mouth statements made in here - I can't neg rate cause he's not on WoT
04:22 gribble Nick 'RagnarDanneskjol', with hostmask 'RagnarDanneskjol!~ragnardan@75-23-231-33.lightspeed.lgngca.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user 'RagnarDanneskjol', with GPG key id 35D2E1A0457E6498, key fingerprint B4AF6458D7D8A2846F91807935D2E1A0457E6498, and bitcoin address 14ixghmHMcB4szGL3ue5WJ1qnjnWnQXiP6
04:23 BingoBoingo RagnarDanneskjol: It depends
04:23 RagnarDanneskjol what would you do in this case?
04:25 BingoBoingo RagnarDanneskjol: Well since this inquiry was about getting a cheap pool and their sales pitch was for us to buy and ship them a metric fuckton of mining equiptment... Prolly just watch them until they collapse on their own
04:26 RagnarDanneskjol kewl
04:26 BingoBoingo Absolutely no information offered on pool pricing
04:27 RagnarDanneskjol He did over the phone - again, I used him in the past, no probs, but everything that came up online looked bad
04:27 BingoBoingo !up dogless
04:28 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/ce-vi-chi/
04:29 RagnarDanneskjol also used this one before - kind of a neat model: https://nicehash.com/
04:29 assbot NiceHash
04:29 dogless hello. I am just crusing. through. I am driving. gotto go.
04:31 BingoBoingo RagnarDanneskjol: Well, nicehash seems to just do hash rental
04:31 RagnarDanneskjol oh yea, right. still need the pool
04:34 BingoBoingo Hash is cheap and easy, verifiably honest pools are harder
04:34 RagnarDanneskjol I'm gonna try to give it another shot this weekend. Last time i wound up pulling my hair out, but issues were all related to unusually fast homebrewcoin i was using
04:35 RagnarDanneskjol never tried to do a normal coin pool
04:36 BingoBoingo %p
04:36 atcbot [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 1.66 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 645.58 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.07 TH/s
04:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23400 @ 0.00063472 = 14.8524 BTC [-] {2}
04:37 BingoBoingo Well X-Rob was talking about something. May just be the sort of situation where a person just has to get their hands dirty
04:37 X-Rob BingoBoingo: wat
04:37 X-Rob Oh right
04:38 BingoBoingo X-Rob: A pool that can take hashpower more stably than that coinminer thing
04:38 X-Rob Yeah. I'll set up a proper pool this weekend
04:38 BingoBoingo Cool
04:40 BingoBoingo Ideally similar uber transparent p2pool thing with a basic stats web page, just a lot like Coinminer but not shitty.
04:42 BingoBoingo !up zitos
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05:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 25 @ 0.266586 = 6.6647 BTC [-] {5}
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06:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 50 @ 0.0217227 = 1.0861 BTC [-]
06:19 chetty http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2730791/Are-STUPID-Britons-people-IQ-decline.html
06:19 assbot Are we becoming more STUPID? IQ scores are decreasing | Mail Online
06:19 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/635/1btc-10-000-usd/#b138
06:19 assbot BitBet - 1BTC >= $10,000 USD :: 75 B (9%) on Yes, 732.28 B (91%) on No | closing in 2 months 4 weeks | weight: 25`053 (100`000 to 1)
06:19 mircea_popescu one of the larger bets.
06:19 mircea_popescu chetty well, they not we.
06:26 chetty well they aren't talking about old folks, the next generations
06:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 50 @ 0.0217227 = 1.0861 BTC [-]
06:32 mircea_popescu !up nonick
06:34 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
06:34 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 507.25, Best ask: 507.61, Bid-ask spread: 0.36000, Last trade: 507.25, 24 hour volume: 13490.89957086, 24 hour low: 502.25, 24 hour high: 530.0, 24 hour vwap: 517.350073897
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06:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48450 @ 0.0006332 = 30.6785 BTC [-] {4}
07:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21700 @ 0.00062905 = 13.6504 BTC [-]
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07:46 RagnarDanneskjol http://ftalphaville.ft.com/2014/08/22/1927472/plus500-as-a-model-citizen/
08:01 mircea_popescu !up jaycutler6969
08:11 chetty http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/swedish-doctors-cannot-explain-rise-in-hypospadias-penis-birth-defect-9684241.html
08:11 assbot Swedish doctors cannot explain rise in hypospadias penis birth defect - Science - News - The Independent
08:26 pankkake https://coinbase.com/legal/prohibited
08:26 assbot Prohibited Businesses
08:28 RagnarDanneskjol awesome
08:28 RagnarDanneskjol #13 seems fairly broad, could be anyone
08:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22237 @ 0.00062821 = 13.9695 BTC [-]
08:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1246 @ 0.00062905 = 0.7838 BTC [+]
08:45 thestringpuller pankkake: i've been using Coinbase to gamble on bitbet for a year now
08:46 thestringpuller not directly but the coins that go into bitbet from me were acquired via coinbase ;)
08:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.00063396 = 11.7283 BTC [+]
09:02 thestringpuller http://sci.ph/#/contact ~_~ all start up pages are looking the same
09:02 assbot Satoshi Citadel Industries
09:06 assbot usagi +v failed; L1: 0, L2: -5
09:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2424 @ 0.00136358 = 3.3053 BTC [-] {7}
09:06 chetty !up usagi
09:07 thestringpuller ;;gettrust assbot usagi
09:07 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask usagi!~tsukino22@unaffiliated/tsukino. Trust relationship from user assbot to user usagi: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -5 via 7 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=usagi | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=usagi | Rated since: Mon Jun 18 12:33:55 2012
09:07 thestringpuller ;;ident
09:07 gribble Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user 'thestringpuller', with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None
09:07 usagi thx
09:07 usagi Reversion to the mean... re: married women and rights, it's a deep and complex social issue
09:08 usagi The taxation unit of days gone by was the family. When society finally collapses we will revert to that sort of structure and married women will lose all rights includign the right to vote
09:08 chetty <usagi> Reversion to the mean... re: married women and rights, it's a deep and complex social issue/nah its easy, get rid of marriage, get the state out of it
09:09 usagi They won't necessarily be worse off you know. I mean married women. Single women will probably still be able to pay taxes and vote
09:10 chetty <usagi> They won't necessarily be worse off you know. I mean married women. Single women will probably still be able to pay taxes and vote// are those supposed to be 'rights'?
09:10 usagi chetty; Womens rights as we know them today destroyed american society
09:10 chetty usagi, no, this whole notion of rights, its not specific to women
09:11 pankkake there's an interesting pattern though. Germany allows women to vote, Hitler gets elected
09:11 usagi By creating competition in the workforce between men and women, the middle class family unit (what you might think of as the backbone of the american workforce) was deemed uneconomical. Now you have to have two working parents to survive
09:11 usagi it really damaged the family unit and the moral fiber of america
09:12 usagi Career women don't raise kids, so you see a much lower birthrate.
09:12 usagi Look what happened in Japan.
09:12 pankkake but the cause isn't women's rights, the cause is taxes
09:13 usagi That's also why you are seeing lower wages. People don't NEED as much money to live anymore, since there are many more single people
09:14 usagi And then you have the issue of maternity leave
09:14 usagi Women who stop working because they're having children don't usually go back to work
09:14 usagi another massive waste of time and resources
09:15 usagi Where I work every year someone quits because they're having a child, and they never come back
09:15 chetty before the 60s a woman couldnt even have her own credit, married or not
09:16 xmj fun fact
09:16 usagi Meh that's bs.. there's a lot of bs floating around about womens rightgs
09:16 xmj the last canton in switzerland was forced to introduce unversal suffrage/female voting rights in 1990.
09:16 xmj ^ Appenzell
09:17 xmj http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_suffrage_in_Switzerland
09:17 assbot Women's suffrage in Switzerland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
09:17 usagi A bank would normally refuse a woman a credit card for example, because it was so unlikely for her to be able to pay it back
09:17 chetty usagi, not bs, I lived it
09:17 usagi If she could prove income she certainly would not need her working husband to cosign
09:17 pankkake http://youtu.be/-uPcthZL2RE
09:17 assbot Ending Women's Suffrage - YouTube
09:18 chetty yes she did, and if not husband then father
09:18 xmj pankkake: please let's go beyond women's suffrage and end democracy.
09:18 usagi So when Fanny Hopkins was the bank manager of London & County Bank
09:18 usagi in 1859.. for like 40 years
09:19 usagi women couldn't get credit?
09:19 usagi Dunno, I'm sure there was prejudice, but as they say, capital has a will of it's own, banks wouldn't refuse someone who had stable income
09:19 xmj well
09:20 chetty maybe UK was different, was certainly true in US
09:21 chetty if husband passed early wife and children left behind could collect SS, if wife died early it was gone
09:22 chetty there were a lot of inequities, but I still hate femnazi as practiced today
09:23 usagi Credit card companies are private corporations. Why would they refuse to issue an unmarried woman a credit card?
09:23 usagi If I can sell eggs to a woman, take her money to cut her hair, take her bank deposit, why wouldn't I want to loan her money?
09:23 chetty maybe that was before they got so greedy
09:24 usagi I've been taking a look at a few internet lists of things women couldn't do in year x, y or z.. there is a lot of bs
09:25 usagi One list says women couldn't study at institutions like harvard and yale until the 70s
09:25 usagi But yale had been admitting women students as early as 1892 even into graduate programs
09:25 chetty rewriting history is a popular occupation these days
09:25 chetty muddy the waters nicely
09:25 usagi In 1783 they had a female president.
09:26 usagi That's a little too convenient, comaining that history has been rewritten
09:26 usagi claiming*
09:26 usagi Although I am sure it has happened before
09:26 chetty no, I mean the list you are reading is the thing rewriten
09:27 chetty much like blacks get left out of the american revolution ...
09:27 usagi The other factor is that humans have a very long written history.
09:27 chetty this history of all this stuff is still there, it just gets left out of the 'common' versions
09:28 usagi Perhaps those in charge of the issuance of credit simply knew ahead of time what would happen once they started giving married women credit cards?
09:28 chetty I repeat, it was not just married, it was female, period
09:28 usagi There's too much evidence that wasn't the case
09:29 usagi I have a pretty good feeling that the general case of women being denied is because they would present a credit risk
09:29 chetty well all your evidence didnt let my mother buy a house, her fathers signature did
09:29 usagi When asked how they planned to repay their loan, what do you think they would have said?
09:30 usagi Not havign a job or an education or a husband?
09:30 usagi Who in their right minds would have issued them credit?
09:30 chetty my mother was a judge
09:30 usagi Case in point :)
09:30 usagi Women had it pretty good back then. IMO of course.
09:31 usagi She probably made more than most working men
09:31 RagnarDanneskjol !up RagnarsBitch
09:31 usagi A lot of this is really beside the point. We're ignoring the fact that women could have incorporated a company with a willing lawyer
09:31 usagi Even with a female lawyer
09:32 usagi And they could have done anything they wanted in the name of their corporation.
09:32 usagi But this would require some amount of money (which it is obvious the women being denied credit -- for example -- did not have)
09:32 chetty yup thats why I say the whole rights thing is stupid, and femnazi even more so
09:32 usagi The fact that this is never mentioned nor explored is more a testament to the reason why women generally didn't have any rights in the first place than anything else
09:32 usagi I sort of agree, but I am not sure I would want to go back to society the way it was 100 years ago either
09:33 usagi Women having the right to go on the pill and become self employed, ahem, is a great thing. Really.
09:33 usagi I say let em do whatever they want
09:34 chetty no let involved ...
09:37 pankkake http://www.coindesk.com/okcoin-reveals-btc-reserves-104-chinas-exchanges-undergo-audits/
09:37 assbot OKCoin Reveals 104% BTC Reserves as China's Exchanges Undergo Audits
09:38 chetty !up usagi
09:38 usagi thanks but the kids are home, bbl
09:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24282 @ 0.00063514 = 15.4225 BTC [+]
09:49 usagi "Proof-of-reserves for digital currency exchanges has been a sensitive issue in the community since the collapse of Mt Gox in February."
09:49 xmj lol
09:49 xmj IOW everyone does fractional reserve.
09:50 usagi Apparently not OKCoin
09:50 usagi A popular exchange makes so much money I have no idea why they would go fractoinal reserve, it just adds risk
09:51 usagi Its the one thing I never really understood about mtgox.. they were making hundreds of million a year
09:51 usagi And they still managed to screw it up.. unbelievable
09:51 usagi You would think they could just pay it out of profits, at least that
09:55 mike_c http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-08-2014#804749
09:55 assbot #bitcoin-assets log
09:55 mike_c +1, i was surprised to see the addition.
09:55 mike_c and as an aside, it is embarrassing for this channel that tweets are scraped and repeated from links but not references to the log!
09:57 mike_c i guess the way to do it would be to use query parameters instead of hash tags..
09:58 mike_c oh, or assbot could just recognize the link to log and use the hashtag.
09:59 usagi Only a matter of time before someone applied the lessons of HFT to bitcoin.
10:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28522 @ 0.00063477 = 18.1049 BTC [-] {2}
10:07 kakobrekla https://w2.eff.org/Net_culture/Folklore/Humor/mouse_balls_ibm.memo
10:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 397 @ 0.00135104 = 0.5364 BTC [-] {6}
10:13 thestringpuller mike_c: what addition?
10:13 thestringpuller oh for van-ads
10:13 thestringpuller ;;ident
10:13 gribble Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user 'thestringpuller', with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None
10:14 thestringpuller how are tweets not referenced in the log?
10:14 thestringpuller assbot announces them when linked...
10:14 thestringpuller am I missing something?
10:20 pankkake https://w2.eff.org/Net_culture/Folklore/Humor/hacker_barbie.announce
10:30 mike_c thestringpuller: yeah, i was complaining that the actual tweet is mentioned in channel, but the actual log line is not.
10:30 mike_c complaining about free tools is classy.
10:30 kakobrekla oh you are complaining about that?
10:30 mike_c i was, yes.
10:30 kakobrekla ben_vulpes did that already.
10:30 kakobrekla didnt work.
10:32 mike_c yes, i remember. hm. i am now envisioning a page that lists desired features with a tip jar and people can pay for shit they want done.
10:32 mike_c probably wouldn't work.
10:33 kakobrekla imma fix it nao
10:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00063515 = 8.0664 BTC [+]
10:40 pankkake http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/08/22/1311210/nsa-agents-leak-tor-bugs-to-developers
10:40 assbot NSA Agents Leak Tor Bugs To Developers - Slashdot
10:43 xmj anyone know which IRC network Ramez Naan idles on?
10:43 xmj http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramez_Naam
10:43 assbot Ramez Naam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
10:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00063393 = 6.0223 BTC [-]
10:58 kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-08-2014#804960
10:58 assbot Logged on 22-08-2014 14:32:21; mike_c: probably wouldn't work.
10:58 mike_c nice!
11:05 thestringpuller http://thezoepost.wordpress.com/ << I don't even know how to interpet this.
11:05 assbot thezoepost
11:06 Bet placed: 1.99981424 BTC for Yes on "BTC Difficulty over 31Bn before October" http://bitbet.us/bet/1028/ Odds: 79(Y):21(N) by coin, 79(Y):21(N) by weight. Total bet: 29.48701626 BTC. Current weight: 94,953.
11:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12695 @ 0.00063732 = 8.0908 BTC [+] {2}
11:16 ben_vulpes ;;later tell pete_dushenski gotta play the game to win.
11:16 gribble The operation succeeded.
11:19 ben_vulpes kakobrekla, mike_c: "complaining" << look who's rewriting history nao
11:21 penguirker New blog post: http://devilsadvocate.biz/btcusd-mega-bear-outlook/
11:21 penguirker New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/spondoolies-sp31/
11:25 punkman thestringpuller: wait, people are lining up to fuck this thing? http://www.massdigi.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/DSC_0585-001.jpg
11:32 mike_c ThickAsThieves: 266? crazy talk.
11:32 mike_c you still short?
11:35 kakobrekla not still, again!
11:37 jurov ;;ticker
11:37 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 518.65, Best ask: 519.99, Bid-ask spread: 1.34000, Last trade: 520.0, 24 hour volume: 15220.06221684, 24 hour low: 500.01, 24 hour high: 530.0, 24 hour vwap: 515.638702827
11:40 kakobrekla !up ThickAsThieves
11:41 ThickAsThieves kako has it, short again
11:41 mike_c idk, i don't like those tea leaves. but if you believe it you should get some odds. http://bitbet.us/bet/1029/
11:41 assbot BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under $400 before October :: 1.12 B (24%) on Yes, 3.59 B (76%) on No | closing in 1 month 2 days | weight: 95`935 (100`000 to 1)
11:42 mike_c you drop a pile of btc on that and you will get action.
11:42 ThickAsThieves i'm watching it all very closely
11:42 ThickAsThieves maybe i will
11:43 mike_c this could be your revenge for the dec. diff bet :)
11:43 mike_c clean out bitbettors!
11:43 ThickAsThieves or me not learning my lesson
11:43 mike_c it's not gambling it's investing.
11:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20200 @ 0.00063726 = 12.8727 BTC [-]
11:43 ThickAsThieves it's both
11:44 ThickAsThieves it's neither
11:45 ThickAsThieves mpoe is already trading like it's the 266 days
11:46 mike_c !t m s.mpoe
11:46 assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00062821 / 0.00063759 / 0.00064542 (782213 shares, 498.74 BTC), 7D: 0.00062821 / 0.0006955 / 0.0007468 (5196015 shares, 3,613.87 BTC), 30D: 0.00062821 / 0.0007827 / 0.00094217 (17785587 shares, 13,920.91 BTC)
11:48 mike_c even lower. last time mpoe was this low btc was 80
11:49 ThickAsThieves it was due for correction
11:49 ThickAsThieves i like swol's chart, lol
11:51 mike_c market is uncertain about swol. which seems appropriate to me.
11:53 ThickAsThieves i'm long on it :)
11:54 Duffer1 swol?
11:54 mike_c http://btc.waroflife.com
11:54 assbot War of Life - Cellular automata to the death!
11:54 Duffer1 oh war of life
11:54 mike_c glad i got my plug in before you realized :)
12:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.58080095 BTC to 14`991 shares, 10545 satoshi per share
12:01 thestringpuller LOL @ punkman wow just wow just wow
12:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 10.90188624 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 948 satoshi per share
12:09 ThickAsThieves https://twitter.com/shit_rbtc_says
12:09 assbot Shit /r/Bitcoin says (shit_rbtc_says) auf Twitter
12:09 BingoBoingo Wait, so http://devilsadvocate.biz/btcusd-mega-bear-outlook/ is actually going to be a catalyst for $700+ ?
12:09 assbot BTCUSD: Mega Bear Outlook
12:09 ThickAsThieves BingoBoingo I haven't really worked on charting that high much, it's just one possibility
12:10 ThickAsThieves of which there is infinite supply of course
12:10 BingoBoingo ThickAsThieves: Well, I was referring to your last prediction, but... I've blogged wrond bitbet predictions...
12:11 ThickAsThieves yeah, i do think it would easily go to 700 after 300
12:12 ThickAsThieves the market is mostly led by china and margin traders
12:12 ThickAsThieves which means price can snap hard
12:12 ThickAsThieves and be manipulated
~ 29 minutes ~
12:42 jurov ;;bc,stats
12:42 gribble Current Blocks: 316982 | Current Difficulty: 2.38446700388033E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 318527 | Next Difficulty In: 1545 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 8 hours, 43 minutes, and 38 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 26963406238.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 13.07939
12:53 ThickAsThieves amazing
12:53 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
13:00 jurov ;;calc 13462580114525*2.9/100/1e8
13:00 gribble Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (<string>, line 1)
13:01 jurov ;;calc 13462580114525*2.9/100e8
13:01 gribble Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (<string>, line 1)
13:01 jurov ;;calc 13462580114525*2.9
13:01 gribble 3.90414823321e+13
13:01 jurov ;;calc 3.90414823321e+13/100e8
13:01 gribble Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
13:01 jurov ;;calc 3.90414823321e13/100e8
13:01 gribble Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
13:03 jurov ;;calc 2.38446700388033E10/13462580114525
13:03 gribble Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
13:05 thestringpuller poor jurov
13:05 thestringpuller you gotta multiply dem numbers out
13:05 jurov mircea wrote it was 13`462`580`114`525.3 at JUN settlement
13:06 jurov which is more than 2.38446700388033E10
13:07 jurov apparently mircea moved the decimal dot
13:07 thestringpuller interesting
13:07 jurov http://trilema.com/2014/xidiffjun-has-settled-2/
13:07 assbot X.IDIFF.JUN has settled. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
13:07 thestringpuller accounting error?
13:09 jurov anyway, 2.38446700388033E10/13462580114.525 - difference between JUN and now is 1.77
13:10 jurov so x.idiff.sep should be covered
13:12 jurov thestringpuller: how am i supposed to multiply what?
13:13 thestringpuller gotcaha
13:13 thestringpuller sorry
13:14 thestringpuller you can't use sceintific notation with gribble
13:14 thestringpuller you have to do 3.9090532 * 10 ^ 4;
13:14 thestringpuller ;;calc 3.14 * 10 ^ 5
13:14 gribble Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
13:14 thestringpuller ;;calc 3.14 * 10^5
13:14 gribble Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
13:14 thestringpuller ;;calc 3.14 * 10**5
13:14 gribble 314000
13:14 thestringpuller year you go
13:14 thestringpuller sorruy
13:17 jurov what's this, php?
13:18 asciilifeform ;;rate foofingers 1 human, meatspace colleague.
13:18 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user foofingers has been recorded.
13:20 thestringpuller jurov: MPEx uses plenty of php...
13:20 jurov lol that's excuse now?
13:21 thestringpuller no!
13:21 thestringpuller i just saying!
13:21 thestringpuller oh jurov you are cool
13:22 jurov iirc there was a bug in homebrew float parser in php
13:22 jurov that caused ddos
13:22 thestringpuller oh wow
13:22 jurov so i got an idea like gribble is patched against it
13:22 The20YearIRCloud for mpex?
13:22 jurov no, in std phph 5
13:30 foofingers Hi people. My is Daniel Marcus. I work together with asciilifeform. And I'm here to do some business with bitcoins. Thank you for having me!
13:30 jurov Hi foofingers. What business?
13:32 foofingers lets say... my ass and vaseline for bitcoins
13:32 foofingers lol
13:33 jurov what, mircea put another buttcoinlike challenge?
~ 28 minutes ~
14:01 thestringpuller !s nubbins` format
14:01 assbot 24 results for 'nubbins` format' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=nubbins%60+format
14:01 thestringpuller !s nubbins` psd
14:01 assbot 2 results for 'nubbins` psd' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=nubbins%60+psd
14:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13850 @ 0.00063752 = 8.8297 BTC [+]
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14:23 punkman https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=751743.0
14:23 assbot Bitstamp: No withdrawals for Bitcoin related companies
14:24 punkman https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=750269.0
14:24 assbot depositing to bitstamp would be faster with a donkey
14:31 thestringpuller Bitstamp is goxxing itself?
14:31 thestringpuller Woe is me.
14:34 BingoBoingo ;;google they really are buttcoins nao
14:34 gribble They really are Buttcoins nao pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2013/they-really-are-buttcoins-nao/>; what is in the mind of r/buttcoin? - Bitcoin Forum: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=727776.0>; PREV: 03-08-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log: <http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-08-2014>
14:34 BingoBoingo ;;later tell foofingers, like http://trilema.com/2013/they-really-are-buttcoins-nao/
14:35 assbot They really are Buttcoins nao pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
14:35 gribble The operation succeeded.
14:36 pankkake I fear you left a note to someone named "foofingers,"
14:37 BingoBoingo Why did I spell it wrong?
14:45 pankkake the ,
14:47 BingoBoingo ;;later tell foofingers like http://trilema.com/2013/they-really-are-buttcoins-nao/
14:47 assbot They really are Buttcoins nao pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
14:47 gribble The operation succeeded.
15:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] [PAID] 1.87696688 BTC to 29`438 shares, 6376 satoshi per share
15:00 BingoBoingo !up gernika
15:03 gernika Thanks BingoBoingo. I'm just here to watch and learn for now :)
15:03 BingoBoingo k
15:05 chetty we seem to be getting a lot of watchers lately :)
15:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24689 @ 0.00063776 = 15.7457 BTC [+] {2}
15:06 BingoBoingo Yeah we do. WOnder what's up?
15:06 mike_c ~175 non-voiced. now i'm self conscious.
15:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24300 @ 0.00063851 = 15.5158 BTC [+] {3}
15:08 fluffypony lol
15:11 gernika #bitcoin-assets is an oasis in a desert of bitcoin idiocy.
15:13 punkman gernika, not just bitcoin
15:13 gernika true
15:13 mike_c also useful if you need to build a satellite that will stay in orbit.
15:13 punkman mike_c: heh
15:14 penguirker New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/hashmine-bitcoin-mining-pool/
15:18 chetty <gernika> #bitcoin-assets is an oasis in a desert of bitcoin idiocy.// oasis in a world of insanity
15:19 punkman world of malpidity
~ 26 minutes ~
15:45 ben_vulpes what's on the -assets reading list right now?
15:45 ben_vulpes i'm working through the berkshire hathaway letters and "fooled by randomness"
15:47 ben_vulpes i want something on the fall of rome written ~1800 or earlier
15:47 pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: fooled by randomness, being the first, was also the least developed of taleb's trilogy
15:47 chetty lol, I was just thinking when you asked about reading that it was time for Rome
15:48 pete_dushenski and for the rome bit, there's no other than edward gibbons' decline and fall of the roman empire
15:48 pete_dushenski http://www.amazon.com/Decline-Roman-Empire-Everymans-Library/dp/0307700763/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1408736897&sr=8-1&keywords=everyman+decline+and+fall << i just picked this up a few weeks ago
15:48 assbot Amazon.com: The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, vol. 1-6 (Everyman's Library) (9780307700766): Edward Gibbon: Books
15:49 chetty although, something on the ottoman empire might be wise atm
15:49 pete_dushenski a! gibbon, not gibbons
15:49 ben_vulpes ooh ooh pete_dushenski what was the book you recently mentioned on zhghghzgzhggis kahn?
15:50 pete_dushenski different one altgother
15:50 pete_dushenski http://www.amazon.com/Genghis-Khan-Making-Modern-World/dp/0609809644/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1408737025&sr=8-1&keywords=genghis+khan+modern+world << this was the chingis one
15:50 assbot Amazon.com: Genghis Khan and the Making of the Modern World (9780609809648): Jack Weatherford: Books
15:51 pete_dushenski newer style, still interesting
15:51 pete_dushenski as was dan carlin's hardcore history series on the khans
15:51 pete_dushenski http://www.dancarlin.com/disp.php/hharchive/kw:Khan/
15:51 assbot Dan Carlin - Podcasts, Merchandise, Blog, and Community Website
15:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31150 @ 0.00063703 = 19.8435 BTC [-] {3}
15:56 ben_vulpes pete_dushenski: do you have any rec's on the ottoman empire?
15:57 pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: can't say i do...
15:57 pete_dushenski though i'm in the midst of herotodus' the histories and i'd highly recommend it :)
15:58 ben_vulpes hm cromer has a book called "political and literary essays"
15:58 ben_vulpes i enjoyed his stories of running egypt, so i think i'll pull that into the queue.
15:59 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: ottoman empire << 'the sultans' (n. barber)
16:00 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: one of the most riotously fun works by any modern historian on any subject.
16:01 ben_vulpes oh shit asciilifeform your name alone reminds of of "the art of not being governed"
16:01 ben_vulpes and thank you!
16:02 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: if you liked TAOFBG, read the author's (j. c. scott) other works. they all fit the theme.
16:02 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: *TAOFNBG, lol
16:02 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: *TAONBG.
16:03 ben_vulpes well, i've yet to read the thing, but thanks for the add'l recs.
16:04 ben_vulpes amusingly, hardcover copies of the sultans are avail for $0.01, but not digitized.
16:05 pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: you don't want digitized anyways ;)
16:06 ben_vulpes pete_dushenski: and why not?
16:06 pete_dushenski 1. you won't remember it as well
16:06 pete_dushenski 2. harder on your eyes
16:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ROCK] 3000 @ 0.000609 = 1.827 BTC [-] {3}
16:07 pete_dushenski the only "digital" books i read are audiobooks
16:07 ben_vulpes i use an e-reader for actual "reading".
16:08 ben_vulpes i refuse to even use the backlit models.
16:09 ben_vulpes pete_dushenski: which herodotus translation are you reading?
16:11 pete_dushenski george rawlinson
16:11 pete_dushenski as well as the "blackstone audiobook anonymously translated" edition
16:14 ben_vulpes > rawlinson
16:14 ben_vulpes > 1859
16:14 ben_vulpes > perfect
16:15 pete_dushenski mhm
16:15 ben_vulpes lovely, pete_dushenski, many thanks.
16:16 ThickAsThieves i've taken to audio "reading" lately too
16:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 57 @ 0.00933663 = 0.5322 BTC [-] {13}
16:16 ThickAsThieves that way i can get off my ass and walk around the neighborhood
16:17 pete_dushenski ThickAsThieves: exactly!
16:17 ben_vulpes what, you guys can't read and walk at the same time?
16:17 ThickAsThieves it amazes me how some of the voice actors really make you believe they wrote it
16:17 pete_dushenski go for a bike ride, run, walk, anything other than restlessly sit on two buttcheeks
16:17 ThickAsThieves i'm listening to Snow Crash currently, after getting burnt out on Taleb telling everything what it's problem is
16:17 pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: i guess there's treadmills
16:17 ben_vulpes the way i bike precludes ear anythings.
16:18 ThickAsThieves its*
16:18 pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: o you bike too hard to learn?
16:18 ben_vulpes no, i ride in traffic and need very good situational awareness.
16:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 50 @ 0.01042979 = 0.5215 BTC [-] {4}
16:19 mike_c v1 of a bet calculator. hopefully it's slightly less complicated than the actual game. https://btc.waroflife.com/gow/27/#bet_calculator
16:19 assbot Game 27 - Death 3954 Life 6046 Year 480 - War of Life
16:20 pete_dushenski until the day i get hit by a car and my jewfro helmet cracks, traffic won't stop me from wizzing by at 40kph while i get my history on
16:20 pete_dushenski they see me, they don't want to hit me, easy as that
16:20 pete_dushenski act like you own the road and its yours for the taking
16:21 ben_vulpes canadian drivers are even more passive than portland drivers.
16:21 ben_vulpes these habits were formed in ny, fwiw.
16:22 ben_vulpes "bike as though you've a million dollar bounty on your head and a neon jersey proclaiming such", as the aforementioned stephenson wrote somewhere sometime
16:22 punkman pete_dushenski: sounds like a death wish
16:22 pete_dushenski punkman: my friends and family would agree
16:23 pete_dushenski it comes down to risk tolerance and not having been (yet) bitten by fate
16:26 punkman on the other hand, I'm pretty used to cars wizzing by at a few inches distance
16:26 pete_dushenski !up bats_cd03
16:26 bats_cd03 just wanted to share a message to ISIS http://i.imgur.com/eFU2YKi.png
16:27 bats_cd03 i know mircea_popescu would approve, somehow
16:27 pete_dushenski lolk
16:28 bats_cd03 ben_vulpes: hows vanads coming along?
16:29 bats_cd03 http://features.slashdot.org/story/14/08/21/0334254/interviews-andrew-bunnie-huang-answers-your-questions re: open software v hardware
16:29 assbot Interviews: Andrew "bunnie" Huang Answers Your Questions - Slashdot
16:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00063937 = 9.4627 BTC [+]
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16:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00063937 = 6.7134 BTC [+]
17:06 ben_vulpes bats_cd03: pretty well
17:12 BingoBoingo %p
17:12 atcbot [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 1.65 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 646.34 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 6.49 TH/s
17:19 BingoBoingo %p
17:19 atcbot [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 1.23 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 629.93 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 4.73 TH/s
17:19 BingoBoingo ^OMG all this Hash
17:22 Apocalyptic dat iSpace pool
17:23 BingoBoingo %p
17:23 atcbot [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.69 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 705.52 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 4.86 TH/s
17:28 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
17:28 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 518.93, vol: 16696.69408067 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 512.532, vol: 4955.29276 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 516.85, vol: 12643.95610087 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 525.18, vol: 14.19643528 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 515.30379, vol: 32783.35370000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 529.95385, vol: 9.62058564 | Volume-weighted last average: 516.296919007
17:29 pete_dushenski ;;bc,stats
17:29 gribble Current Blocks: 317014 | Current Difficulty: 2.38446700388033E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 318527 | Next Difficulty In: 1513 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 9 hours, 32 minutes, and 25 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 26939001289.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 12.97704
17:30 pete_dushenski it'll be another 20% change yet.
17:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27650 @ 0.00063948 = 17.6816 BTC [+] {2}
17:33 ThickAsThieves insane
17:33 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
17:33 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 516.6, Best ask: 518.94, Bid-ask spread: 2.34000, Last trade: 518.98, 24 hour volume: 16674.48447915, 24 hour low: 500.01, 24 hour high: 528.0, 24 hour vwap: 515.219441522
17:39 BingoBoingo http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/canadian-television-journalist-arrested-under-order-of-capt-johnson/article_55b5825d-85d0-5265-bc62-5576cfcf1899.html << Ferguson may not be as calm as they the news would have us inclined to believe this week
17:39 assbot Canadian television journalist arrested under order of Capt. Johnson : News
17:40 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: he shoulda been more polite ;/
17:41 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: Who knows
17:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22150 @ 0.00063863 = 14.1457 BTC [-]
17:45 pete_dushenski ;;later tell ben_vulpes have you seen john wayne as zjchinghis? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHt0Pb8rkXU
17:45 assbot The Conqueror original theatrical trailer - YouTube
17:45 gribble The operation succeeded.
17:47 BingoBoingo ;;calc 15975 / 11790
17:47 gribble 1.35496183206
17:47 BingoBoingo ^average BitBet Bet
17:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 412 @ 0.00138899 = 0.5723 BTC [+]
17:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 919 @ 0.00063863 = 0.5869 BTC [-]
~ 38 minutes ~
18:37 ben_vulpes https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/apm-marketplace-radio/id447476522?mt=8 << up and to the right!
18:37 assbot APM: Marketplace Radio on the App Store on iTunes
18:39 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: One of yours?
18:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00063738 = 2.9957 BTC [-]
18:41 ben_vulpes no sir.
~ 20 minutes ~
19:01 kakobrekla anyone seen anything liek this before http://shrani.si/f/47/UL/3m3knoYx/imag1961.jpg
19:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2011 @ 0.00063738 = 1.2818 BTC [-]
19:06 mircea_popescu yes kako, it's a cunt.
19:06 mircea_popescu that's what the girls have between their legs.
19:06 assbot Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3P3V1WT.txt )
19:06 mircea_popescu !b 3
19:06 mircea_popescu !up m4rCsi
~ 27 minutes ~
19:34 kakobrekla i thought its a weirdly broken printer fucker
~ 22 minutes ~
19:57 BingoBoingo %t
19:57 atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 170 Ask: 221 Last Price: 221 24h-Vol: 2k High: 221 Low: 170 VWAP: 170
~ 31 minutes ~
20:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24700 @ 0.00063674 = 15.7275 BTC [-] {2}
20:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5835 @ 0.00063611 = 3.7117 BTC [-]
20:34 Bet placed: 1.5 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment" http://bitbet.us/bet/786/ Odds: 85(Y):15(N) by coin, 87(Y):13(N) by weight. Total bet: 1311.77551814 BTC. Current weight: 52,464.
~ 32 minutes ~
21:06 BingoBoingo Parents these days http://drgrumpyinthehouse.blogspot.com/2014/08/skool-nerse-time.html
21:06 assbot Doctor Grumpy in the House: Skool Nerse time
21:11 BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/502983932673916928
21:11 assbot http://t.co/HLIJtfak2C
21:11 BingoBoingo !up contrapumpkin
21:12 asciilifeform http://handleshaus.wordpress.com/2014/08/17/procrustean-rashomon << mega-lol re: ferguson affair
21:12 assbot Procrustean Rashomon | Handle's Haus
21:13 contrapumpkin thanks :)
21:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16447 @ 0.00063469 = 10.4387 BTC [-]
21:26 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I'd watch or at least read recaps of that show.
21:38 BingoBoingo https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/a1912bf8cef45942af86faaf0bd9ffc9/tumblr_n85bixmkxt1t5fphqo2_500.gif
21:38 ThickAsThieves <+kakobrekla> anyone seen anything liek this before http://shrani.si/f/47/UL/3m3knoYx/imag1961.jpg /// the streaking? i assumed it's a laser printer, you may have an expired head, or rollers/head are dirty. If you mean that most of the print is missing on the new one, well it could be a major malfunction, bad head. If you mean the dusting on the white area, you may have toner in your
21:38 ThickAsThieves parts and the inside of the printer needs to be cleaned. That's off the top of my head.
21:38 BingoBoingo https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/87dbddb8a655fdcaa8603cbc22728b9d/tumblr_n85bixmkxt1t5fphqo3_500.gif
21:39 ThickAsThieves nice
21:39 kakobrekla ThickAsThieves both prints should be all black
21:40 ThickAsThieves have you tried a different head?
21:40 ThickAsThieves if it's new it shouldn't need one...
21:41 kakobrekla i have done 50 prints on it or so
21:41 kakobrekla but i cant change the head even if i change the toner
21:41 ThickAsThieves can you change the distance of the paper?
21:41 ThickAsThieves all the dusting is also a problem
21:42 ThickAsThieves probably just busted
21:43 kakobrekla i guess so, doesnt seem to be a common problem
21:43 ThickAsThieves is it the same paper?
21:44 kakobrekla yup
21:44 kakobrekla tried 3 different ones really.
21:45 ThickAsThieves did you clean it at all?
21:46 BingoBoingo http://38.media.tumblr.com/d3e13bd3eac0877f24791fc4ab95f890/tumblr_n5v7qqjeVF1rc7zl1o2_400.gif
21:46 ThickAsThieves they are electrostatic, so if you use the wrong stuff on rollers or such itll fuck up shit
21:47 kakobrekla electrostatic what?
21:48 BingoBoingo http://33.media.tumblr.com/d3c2c22073f3fe29ca40f1814ea2877f/tumblr_n4glz0IOR51qax99wo2_500.jpg
21:49 ThickAsThieves the paper has a coating that accepts charge, the head delivers it in the print pattern, the paper is run over toner and it sticks, then it is melted on, if any full-contact parts were cleaned and have residue, they will disrupt the process
21:49 ThickAsThieves though a hard stop like you show would be a separate problem probably
21:50 BingoBoingo I refuse to consider them proper "laser" printers until they work because the laser burns its message
21:51 BingoBoingo ;;ticker
21:51 ThickAsThieves i used to work on cart sized ESTATS, they were like industrial machine verisons of xerox uses for dye sublimation transfer plotting
21:51 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 510.0, Best ask: 510.06, Bid-ask spread: 0.06000, Last trade: 510.06, 24 hour volume: 15468.07364882, 24 hour low: 500.01, 24 hour high: 528.0, 24 hour vwap: 514.217278334
21:51 BingoBoingo http://media.tumblr.com/a10a1980b62673f60ed27f88ccbebed6/tumblr_inline_mku619sgkc1qz4rgp.gif << Baby Polar bear being tickled
21:51 ThickAsThieves needed to be calibrated and cleaned multiple times per day
21:52 ThickAsThieves theyd break once a month
21:53 ThickAsThieves laser printers are mostly shit in that regard
21:53 BingoBoingo http://lexi-the-corgi.tumblr.com/image/81452424299
21:53 assbot Corgis are Super Villains in Disguise : Photo
21:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13050 @ 0.00063476 = 8.2836 BTC [+]
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22:21 BingoBoingo !up youtubetard
22:21 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/how-i-was-wrong-cuckolding-or-a-story-about-sigmas/
22:21 BingoBoingo Hello
22:25 youtubetard Says I have been voiced for 30 minutes? Still learning here.
22:25 BingoBoingo youtubetard: Yeah
22:26 BingoBoingo if you need more time just pm someone
22:26 BingoBoingo as long as you act like a human being generally people are happy to voice you until you establish youself in the WoT and can voice yourself
22:26 BingoBoingo youtubetard: So what is it you do?
22:27 youtubetard ahh ok ok. Makes sense. I am reading up more so I don't come off as a troll lol
22:27 youtubetard reading up more on WoT that is.
22:28 youtubetard I work with Bitcoin and enjoy working with technology. I've done mostly consulting which is more or less just educating certain individuals and businesses on BTC, what it is, how it works, and why they should get some
22:28 youtubetard What about yourself?
22:31 BingoBoingo Well, I read a lot and sometime people ask me to do things.
22:31 BingoBoingo I guess sometimes I "consult"
22:31 BingoBoingo I also blag
22:32 BingoBoingo http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/03/18/regulation-of-magic/
22:32 assbot Regulation of Magic | Bingo Blog
22:32 youtubetard haha good answer.
22:34 BingoBoingo Basically ever since 2004 when I bought a computer I've been waiting for an opportunity to use GPG and... Bitcoin afforded that.
22:35 youtubetard haha very nice. Bitcoin has opened a whole new world to basically anyone will to learn/understand it
22:35 youtubetard which is amazing if you really think about it
22:35 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
22:36 BingoBoingo Indeed, so when did you get started?
22:40 youtubetard I built and fiddled with various electronics when I was very little...leading to me building a computer. Came to a better understanding of real money and stable currencies, discovered bitcoin in 2010. and have pursued it ever since
22:40 youtubetard with continued education of course
22:42 The20YearIRCloud tada
22:42 The20YearIRCloud I think we (Rentalstarter) will be having another webinar type thing September the 1st
22:44 BingoBoingo Ah, even though ~2010 was when I first started reading on it, fucking library school. Wasn't until very late 2012 I started playing with it more seriously and 2013 that I started seeking introductions.
22:45 BingoBoingo The20YearIRCloud: What sort of webinar?
22:45 youtubetard ah, it does take time...BTC was deff sketch at first, but that's more so if you're used to seeing things from a consumer/comercial stand point
22:45 The20YearIRCloud BingoBoingo: going over company financials, forecasting, where the company is headed in the short term
22:45 BingoBoingo The20YearIRCloud: Ah
22:46 BingoBoingo youtubetard: See my mistake was I imagined myself poor when I could have seized upon something powerful at the time... But instead dreams of librarian jobs danced in my head.
22:47 BingoBoingo And I've always wanted to be an Emperor, or at least a lesser Lord of the Manor much more than I've wanted to be a librarian.
22:47 BingoBoingo Alea Icta Est.
22:50 The20YearIRCloud maybe some day you can start your own empire in a 3rd world country
22:50 BingoBoingo The20YearIRCloud: Why not in the remains of a "superpower"
22:51 The20YearIRCloud i think that'd be too expensive
22:51 BingoBoingo https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/50e856c99a5ffd1de17fb854d7a3c0fc/tumblr_ms2czuAu8e1rstnrzo1_500.jpg
22:51 youtubetard ^prices fluctuate. Just gotta position yourself...becoming a religious leader helps
22:51 BingoBoingo The20YearIRCloud: Maybe if you plan to camp out there through all the intermediate steps
22:52 BingoBoingo !up youtubetard
22:52 The20YearIRCloud Eh, gdp between 2nd world and 3rd world is huge, much easier to pay some PMCs and take over a african despot than say kazachstan
22:54 BingoBoingo GDP is a lie
22:54 The20YearIRCloud Then let's say manpower * arms in inventory
22:56 youtubetard There are a lot of factors involved.
22:56 BingoBoingo Right, you could be the motherfucker who has the bomb and an acute shortage of lithium citrate syrup USP
22:56 youtubetard lol very true
22:57 youtubetard but, micro-states are on the rise no doubt.
22:57 youtubetard especially with the use of crypto tech such as btc and being able to generate more free flowing economies
22:59 The20YearIRCloud There are some pretty good candidate areas for micro countries if yo ucould break away effectively
22:59 BingoBoingo Florisant Missouri being a prime example
23:01 BingoBoingo The olds might forgive his neglect, but the youth are always going to think Obama's an Uncle Tom
23:01 youtubetard lol
23:02 youtubetard yea...Quebec will hopefully demonstrate a peaceful and constructive seccesion
23:02 youtubetard although with the rate of bankrupt nations...it shouldn't be too difficult
23:07 The20YearIRCloud is quebec gonna cede again?
23:07 The20YearIRCloud along with scotland , NI and flanders?
23:12 youtubetard one can only hope.
23:13 youtubetard more complexity is the nature of all things in the long term. So the rise of many many many micro states is very likely. People see Liechtenstein's success
23:14 BingoBoingo The weird thing is an independent Flanders is probably going to be more capable of keeping ISIS at bay than the combined efforts of the US and UK ever could
23:17 youtubetard oh yea, I agree. If anything ISIS has seen the success of the TaliBann in creating a "Day the Mouse roared" scenario. The US continues to bleed and become bankrupt whilst attempting to maintain "stability" in a non-stabile enviorment
23:17 xmj hm
23:17 xmj gentlemen, I need your opinion on something.
23:18 youtubetard shoot
23:18 xmj What would make for a better home base in 2015 or 2016: Luxembourg, Monaco or Jersey/Guernsey?
23:18 youtubetard great question. I don't see europe being safe honestly. While Monaco and other principalities are entering their golden age...the time to be there is now...not in 5 years +
23:19 youtubetard but that's my opinion. Prices are high there, so I can't see a benefit financially
23:20 BingoBoingo xmj: What about Serbia?
23:20 xmj define 'safe'
23:20 BingoBoingo xmj: Or Transndstria?
23:20 xmj BingoBoingo: nah. Ukraine
23:20 BingoBoingo Fuck that.
23:20 xmj and yes, if Russia doesn't invade Ukraine is another option on the table.
23:21 The20YearIRCloud I like singapore
23:21 xmj BingoBoingo: You haven't been there. You haven't seen Ukrainian women on the streets.
23:21 xmj ...or have you?
23:21 The20YearIRCloud Poland is making alot of good choices
23:21 BingoBoingo Ukraine is going to suffer full Russian invasion or not
23:21 xmj The20YearIRCloud: Poland also has a catholic population, which is fucking annoying.
23:21 youtubetard Russia is a good buy imo
23:22 xmj Twenty-somethings going to church _every sunday_.
23:22 The20YearIRCloud I'd be more worried about making the right decisions as a state than religious preferences
23:22 youtubetard it will have cheep prices compared
23:22 The20YearIRCloud uruguay seems to be a really good choice if they continue on
23:23 BingoBoingo Russian is... interesting
23:23 xmj meh
23:24 xmj let's assume I want to something in the West. Which is either Anglo-Saxon, or Germanic.
23:24 BingoBoingo But what if you love her ? What if you love what she’s doing to you, not necessarily for what it is but for it being her doing ? Maybe you even hate it for what it is, on some level, but because she’s doing it you love it anyway. Years later I read in a learned article that that’s exactly how women love, not for the thing but for its meaning, and I was enlightened. That’s what they mean by the meaning of things, do they ?
23:24 BingoBoingo Well shit.
23:24 xmj with low taxes.
23:24 BingoBoingo !up youtubetard
23:24 The20YearIRCloud If the US ever de-federalized, many would be in for a treat
23:25 xmj de-federalized? you mean, proper central state, not just a fake one?
23:25 xmj fake - in all but law
23:25 The20YearIRCloud Meaning the federal goverment went back to the original role of only planning national defense and nothing else
23:25 The20YearIRCloud Most US states are run pretty well, but when you add the federal goverment into it, it becomes a huge mess
23:26 BingoBoingo This latest trilema MP put out is quite the read
23:26 youtubetard lol very true...the fed is just spiraling into the darkness
23:26 xmj ah
23:26 xmj The20YearIRCloud: of course
23:26 xmj I thought you meant the other way round
23:27 The20YearIRCloud But state budgets, control, state/house makup, they're run well
23:27 xmj well, they have no one to bail them out (cf Californian default)
23:27 The20YearIRCloud Ohio is a prime example, in the past 10 years we've finally got a group in the house that knows what they're doing and are repealing a bunch of dumb laws
23:27 BingoBoingo The20YearIRCloud: Ohio might suffer the most from reduced Federal dependence...
23:27 xmj The20YearIRCloud: the funny thing is:
23:27 The20YearIRCloud left to their own devices, California, Illinois, new york and maryland would implode
23:28 BingoBoingo Oh, Illinois would split
23:28 xmj US-american libertarians think they can fix the flaws of the Constitution by reverting to it.
23:28 BingoBoingo Where, is to be determined
23:28 The20YearIRCloud Yeah , they'd cut cook county off :D
23:28 BingoBoingo Oh, most of the stuff sround there too.
23:28 youtubetard still...smaller limited govmints where authority tends to be inhereted to the local inhabitants tends to be more stable....at least history tells us so
23:28 The20YearIRCloud Yeah, but cook county would be a start
23:28 youtubetard lololol constitution caused most of all the issues we have today
23:28 BingoBoingo Split could run as far south as I-64 and I'd be happy
23:29 The20YearIRCloud The problem wasn't the constitution, it was that people thought things weren't clear and decided they could deviate
23:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00063678 = 7.1319 BTC [+] {2}
23:30 xmj youtubetard: you cannot credibly limit a government's authority
23:30 youtubetard Russia I think will offer some great opportunities soon enough.
23:30 youtubetard Correct. I fully agree
23:30 xmj read Rousseau's Contract Social
23:30 The20YearIRCloud i think russia could be quite interesting, but i also worry there's an equal chance they'll decided to go back to soviet era stupidity
23:30 BingoBoingo Missouri would go back to the good old days of Quantrill and burn everything Kansas loves
23:30 youtubetard but I also don't think humans will abandon goverments nor fiat anytime soon...think about human nature...only technology can really better the opportunities
23:31 youtubetard yea...Putin seems to be very fond of the ole days
23:32 BingoBoingo The US, India, Russia, and China all seem to have size related hazards
23:33 youtubetard size as in geo+ population
23:33 youtubetard ?
23:35 The20YearIRCloud what do you mean with size related hazzard?
23:36 youtubetard anyone familiar with Satoshis law?
23:36 xmj what's worse about russia is, they don't seem to go back to russian era but to Tsarist era
23:37 xmj just without any Romanov on top of the state.
23:38 The20YearIRCloud that's where china is
23:38 xmj china doesn't have a Tsar ?
23:38 The20YearIRCloud essentially a somewhat less corrupt version of nationalist china, minus warlords too
23:42 BingoBoingo Size as in population + walk to the next border
23:47 youtubetard hmmm
23:48 youtubetard I think they'll end up fracturing quite a bit
23:50 mircea_popescu ahh juicy logs!
23:52 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: juicy Trilema
23:53 mircea_popescu i try.
23:55 BingoBoingo !up youtubetard
23:56 youtubetard all hail the assbot
23:56 youtubetard brb
23:56 * BingoBoingo exercises restraint this time, waits to do a sober read through before publishing piece on NYDFS extending their orders for the quaranteen of New York
23:57 mircea_popescu mike_c: and as an aside, it is embarrassing for this channel that tweets are scraped and repeated from links but not references to the log! << yeah srsly.
23:57 BingoBoingo After that post where I buried any point I was trying to make under three really fucking chewey sentences
23:58 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo is this ebola ?
23:58 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Which thing?
23:59 mircea_popescu quarantine
23:59 BingoBoingo No, I'm talking about Bitcoin simply writing off New York
23:59 mircea_popescu oh.
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