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← 2014-05-31 | 2014-06-02 → ↓
00:00 joecool lock looks difficult to pick
00:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.02658 = 0.1063 BTC [-]
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00:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 26 @ 0.08589899 = 2.2334 BTC [+] {8}
00:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12073 @ 0.00088049 = 10.6302 BTC [-] {2}
00:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20950 @ 0.00087941 = 18.4236 BTC [-] {3}
00:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00088304 = 15.2766 BTC [+]
00:38 artifexd There are many payment processors that take bitcoin and give the seller fiat. I'd like to see a payment processor that takes fiat and gives the seller btc.
00:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00088255 = 14.1208 BTC [-] {2}
00:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00088152 = 6.6996 BTC [-]
00:43 asciilifeform artifexd: anyone who collects fiat from the 'unwashed masses' is a candidate for 'having problems' eventually.
00:43 asciilifeform it can in principle be done - like inertial confinement fusion - but go and try.
00:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4228 @ 0.00088477 = 3.7408 BTC [+]
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01:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00088216 = 3.7492 BTC [-] {2}
01:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [-]
01:19 benkay artifexd: https://coinvoice.com/
01:19 assbot Coinvoice | Home
01:21 artifexd asciilifeform: Exactly why I'd like to offload that to someone else.
01:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 29 @ 0.18107586 = 5.2512 BTC [-] {5}
01:21 artifexd benkay: Huh. Sweet. Thanks.
01:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 464 @ 0.00160022 = 0.7425 BTC [-] {16}
01:22 artifexd Unfortunately they don't take plastic. Only wire transfers and forms of money-by-mail.
01:22 artifexd :(
01:27 benkay lol plastic and btc
01:28 benkay if btc is - and fiat is + then plastic is chaos and on an entirely different axis orthogonal to both crypto and fiat somehow
01:29 artifexd Sadly, the current state of the unwashed masses on the internet is that if one wants their money, one must deal with the credit card networks.
01:31 assbot [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 203 @ 0.00243378 = 0.4941 BTC [-]
01:35 benkay what are you doing with the unwashed masses, artifexd ?
01:35 benkay ;;gettrust poutine
01:35 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask poutine!poutine@the.infamous.poutine.pw. Trust relationship from user benkay to user poutine: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=poutine | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=poutine | Rated since: never
01:35 benkay poutine: what are you and dignork working on?
01:37 artifexd Eh. Nothing major. I wrote some software many years ago that still sells enough to make it worth my time to keep the website up. Making purchases go straight to bitcoin would be nice.
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01:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28800 @ 0.00088385 = 25.4549 BTC [+] {2}
02:01 dignork benkay: sorry, i typed into wrong window, we tried to play with multisig transactions on testnet
02:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.04954094 = 0.1982 BTC [-]
02:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.026305 = 0.1052 BTC [-]
02:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8172 @ 0.00088477 = 7.2303 BTC [+]
02:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18650 @ 0.0008858 = 16.5202 BTC [+] {2}
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02:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.18024999 = 1.442 BTC [-] {3}
02:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.17075 = 0.683 BTC [-] {3}
02:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29300 @ 0.0008864 = 25.9715 BTC [+] {3}
02:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00088511 = 1.9472 BTC [-]
03:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.0008831 = 9.8907 BTC [-] {3}
03:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00088669 = 8.2462 BTC [+] {2}
03:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 34 @ 0.00443082 = 0.1506 BTC [+] {2}
03:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1993 @ 0.00088239 = 1.7586 BTC [-] {2}
03:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.17 = 0.34 BTC [-]
03:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39950 @ 0.00088746 = 35.454 BTC [+] {4}
03:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00088233 = 10.7644 BTC [-]
03:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.00088144 = 15.6015 BTC [-] {3}
03:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.08800002 = 0.264 BTC [+]
04:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13703 @ 0.00088346 = 12.1061 BTC [+]
04:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.026306 = 0.2631 BTC [+] {10}
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04:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40250 @ 0.00088067 = 35.447 BTC [-] {3}
04:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00087935 = 8.7935 BTC [-]
04:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.026306 = 0.1578 BTC [+] {6}
04:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.0273 = 0.1365 BTC [+]
04:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.0273 = 0.273 BTC [+]
04:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.0273 = 0.1092 BTC [+]
04:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07419024 = 0.2968 BTC [-] {3}
05:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.171 = 0.342 BTC [+]
05:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.08424 = 0.1685 BTC [+]
05:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 24 @ 0.15488887 = 3.7173 BTC [-] {11}
05:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 59 @ 0.1321126 = 7.7946 BTC [-] {4}
05:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26900 @ 0.00088601 = 23.8337 BTC [+] {3}
05:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 89 @ 0.00152977 = 0.1361 BTC [-] {3}
05:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00150106 = 0.1501 BTC [-] {4}
05:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.13508333 = 0.8105 BTC [+] {2}
05:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0014515 = 0.1452 BTC [-] {3}
05:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 99 @ 0.134 = 13.266 BTC [-]
05:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 237 @ 0.12852048 = 30.4594 BTC [-] {8}
05:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 391 @ 0.00139161 = 0.5441 BTC [-] {5}
05:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 95 @ 0.00134086 = 0.1274 BTC [-] {4}
05:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 152 @ 0.00130657 = 0.1986 BTC [-] {3}
05:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6051 @ 0.00087935 = 5.3209 BTC [-]
05:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 120 @ 0.02785665 = 3.3428 BTC [+] {6}
05:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 68 @ 0.02854995 = 1.9414 BTC [+] {4}
05:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 60 @ 0.02922333 = 1.7534 BTC [+] {2}
05:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.14 BTC [+]
05:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00087935 = 15.3886 BTC [-]
05:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 85 @ 0.00134897 = 0.1147 BTC [+]
05:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.15703925 BTC [+]
06:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15765 @ 0.00087935 = 13.863 BTC [-]
06:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11705 @ 0.00087935 = 10.2928 BTC [-]
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06:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.029999 = 0.12 BTC [+] {2}
06:28 fluffypony http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/270lki/joshua_zipkin_of_amt_advance_mining_technologies/
06:28 assbot Joshua Zipkin of AMT (Advance Mining Technologies) threaten to kill a fellow Bitcoiner. : Bitcoin
06:28 fluffypony aha ah ahhahahahaha hahaha haa
06:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.15703246 BTC [-]
06:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.16029455 = 0.4809 BTC [+] {3}
06:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28600 @ 0.00087927 = 25.1471 BTC [-] {3}
06:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.15563779 = 0.4669 BTC [-] {3}
06:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 140 @ 0.00142263 = 0.1992 BTC [+]
06:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 62 @ 0.07590334 = 4.706 BTC [-] {3}
06:52 fluffypony ;;seen bitcoinpete
06:52 gribble bitcoinpete was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 16 hours, 46 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: <bitcoinpete> i do… aug 30 to sept 10
06:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.00087955 = 14.6885 BTC [+] {2}
07:06 pankkake fluffypony: as always, MP did it first
07:07 fluffypony I feel like I'm left out
07:07 fluffypony I need to threaten someone
07:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.17208494 BTC [+]
07:07 fluffypony maybe we can have "Riccardo Spagni threatens to kill Parisian on IRC!" on Reddit next
07:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51400 @ 0.00088241 = 45.3559 BTC [+] {4}
07:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.17435898 BTC [+]
07:08 pankkake https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=634344.0 LOL
07:08 assbot [ASICMINER] lawsuit
07:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 218 @ 0.00182267 = 0.3973 BTC [-] {7}
07:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3606 @ 0.00088569 = 3.1938 BTC [+]
07:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.17740716 BTC [+]
07:18 pankkake https://bitcointa.lk/threads/activemining-official-shareholder-discussion-thread-moderated.259468/page-270#post-6765921
07:18 assbot [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] | Page 270 | Bitcointa.lk
07:19 pankkake !up skinnkavaj
07:21 pankkake ;;later tell mircea_popescu storing your only two backups in the same city is no doubt risky, but still it's unlikely that you manage to salvage none if case of a natural disaster. one of the reasons I don't think paper is the ultimate backup though
07:21 gribble The operation succeeded.
07:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.17956706 BTC [+]
07:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.16099966 = 0.644 BTC [-] {4}
07:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12835 @ 0.00088569 = 11.3678 BTC [+]
07:26 fluffypony pankkake: at some point we need to diverge from talking about backups-in-general to talking about backups-of-Bitcoin-wallets
07:26 fluffypony we've been mingling the two
07:26 pankkake yes, well, my bitcoin wallet has more backups because it's easier
07:27 fluffypony yeah exactly
07:28 pankkake and since they're not done the same way, it really would have to a catastrophic failure to lose it
07:29 pankkake my point is just that n+1 is much better than n; just a game of probabilities
07:30 fluffypony yep - and the reality is that a natural disaster that destroys a city will probably affect your business' ability to function anyway
07:32 pankkake depends on the business, something like say Bitbet would be only temporary
07:32 pankkake and losing the funds would be devastating
07:33 fluffypony true
07:46 fluffypony asciilifeform will enjoy this - guy debunks this solar roadway thing that raised $1.8 million on Indiegogo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H901KdXgHs4
07:46 assbot Solar FREAKIN Roadways, are they real? - YouTube
07:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0750011 = 0.75 BTC [-]
07:51 Mats_cd03 meow
07:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.07500034 = 1.5 BTC [-] {3}
07:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.17956707 BTC [+]
07:52 fluffypony Mats_cd03: muzak plx
07:53 jurov https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-jXDA2RZd-C8/U4oSxzKW_MI/AAAAAAAAAiU/nJ2yph1KSOg/w1380-h923-no/P1040384.JPG lawyer talking about btc regulation. of course
07:54 jurov ( from CEBE Vienna - https://plus.google.com/115680799946601296833/posts/a3UCv8SLLJA )
07:54 jurov good i did not go
07:54 Mats_cd03 http://youtu.be/uB_zi69GQFg
07:54 assbot Lay Me Down - The Oh Hello's - YouTube
07:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 6 @ 0.02660043 = 0.1596 BTC [-]
07:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.17957367 = 0.3591 BTC [+] {2}
07:57 Mats_cd03 Take me home... I want to go...
07:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.17957367 BTC [+]
07:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.17957367 BTC [+]
07:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.00088647 = 21.0093 BTC [+] {2}
07:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.17957388 = 0.3591 BTC [+] {2}
08:02 Mats_cd03 http://youtu.be/AObC5VKMdEc
08:02 assbot The Oh Hellos - Hello My Old Heart - YouTube
08:02 jurov https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--k5UKXJctow/U4oM6quBZFI/AAAAAAAAAPM/-DjBJ7reve0/w957-h1431-no/P1040300.JPG do you know how much they ask for one tile?
08:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0750001 = 0.75 BTC [-]
08:03 Mats_cd03 My brain read 'counterintelligence telegraph'
08:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.1794 BTC [-]
08:04 jurov whole gallery is lulzworthy
08:05 jurov Mats_cd03: they asked us about 1BTC depending on placement ... either it's just opening of the negotiations
08:06 jurov or kako's utter fail he isn't asking more, too
08:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.1795741 BTC [+]
08:06 Mats_cd03 I wonder how many people have been suckered
08:07 fluffypony uh
08:07 fluffypony you're telling me that's a 300 BTC wall?
08:07 fluffypony on a poster?
08:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24050 @ 0.00088673 = 21.3259 BTC [+]
08:13 Mats_cd03 some serious hustle by counterintelligence graph
08:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.075001 = 0.75 BTC [+]
08:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.1795741 BTC [+]
08:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 20 @ 0.0295 = 0.59 BTC [+]
08:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 26 @ 0.02969997 = 0.7722 BTC [+] {2}
08:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 106 @ 0.02997351 = 3.1772 BTC [+] {5}
08:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2339 @ 0.00088569 = 2.0716 BTC [-]
08:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.185 = 0.925 BTC [+]
08:22 BingoBoingo https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=628000.0
08:22 assbot A Summary of Phinnaeus Gage's Investigation into Brock Pierce Thus Far
08:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.185 BTC [+]
08:25 BingoBoingo https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=468095.msg5166483#msg5166483
08:25 assbot Which Bitcoin Client do you use and why ?
08:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.18666666 = 1.12 BTC [+] {2}
08:27 BingoBoingo A bunch of now worthless hiding places http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/05/no_author/want-to-hide-handguns-at-home/
08:27 assbot Want To Hide Handguns at Home? – LewRockwell.com
08:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.19 = 0.38 BTC [+]
08:28 fluffypony ah.
08:28 fluffypony http://www.coindesk.com/cash-strapped-multibit-developers-charge-transaction-fee/
08:28 assbot Cash-Strapped MultiBit Developers to Charge Transaction Fee
08:28 fluffypony so that's how MultiBit is planning on making money
08:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.19 = 2.47 BTC [+] {2}
08:31 mircea_popescu goood mornin' assets.
08:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.19 = 1.9 BTC [+]
08:32 mircea_popescu so, for any of the hungry young wolves out there : come to buenos aires.
08:32 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Still moonstruck by the beef?
08:32 mircea_popescu argentina is an incredibly rich country populated by the most pompous, clueless, ineffective and ineffectual people i have encounter in my entire life, travelling five continents.
08:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]
08:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00171786 = 0.1718 BTC [+] {7}
08:32 mircea_popescu the egyptians have more of a clue, and they're mostly illiterate.
08:33 mircea_popescu if you can't make a million here, there's something seriously wrong with your head.
08:33 mircea_popescu i am literally getting a billion dollar idea a day just walking down the fucking street and noticing that wait, they actually don't have x ? bwahahahaha etc.
08:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.23 = 0.46 BTC [+]
08:34 mircea_popescu that's why they have capital controls in place. it has nothing to do with banking. it has to do with how helpless the avearage argentine is. in an open competition with the rest of the world, it'd take about three weeks to bleed the country dry.
08:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.23 BTC [+]
08:37 mircea_popescu fluffypony, lol that'll go over well im sure. their userbase is just as cash strapped.
08:38 fluffypony what's really funny is this line: "The person behind Electrum, one of the other five wallets, also failed to respond."
08:38 fluffypony meanwhile he's on IRC every day
08:38 fluffypony and his email address is public
08:38 fluffypony [14:29:35] ThomasV: I saw that email well after they sent it, because they did not use my normal email address
08:38 mircea_popescu but maybe he did in fact fail to respond
08:38 mircea_popescu o
08:38 fluffypony [14:30:36] ThomasV: they sent it to my research address, with a deadline for answering
08:38 mircea_popescu lol mk
08:39 fluffypony [14:32:39] ThomasV: actually I believe I gave my business card to a journalist from coindesk during the amsterdam conference
08:39 fluffypony coindesk journalism ++
08:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15300 @ 0.00087903 = 13.4492 BTC [-]
08:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18608 @ 0.00087902 = 16.3568 BTC [-] {2}
08:45 chetty http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bergdahl-release-arrangement-could-threaten-the-safety-of-americans-republicans-say/2014/05/31/35e47a2a-e8ff-11e3-afc6-a1dd9407abcf_print.html
08:45 assbot Bergdahl release arrangement could threaten the safety of Americans, Republicans say - The Washington Post
08:46 mircea_popescu artifexd: asciilifeform: Exactly why I'd like to offload that to someone else. << lol i'm sure you';re the first that thought of that :D
08:48 mircea_popescu assbot: Joshua Zipkin of AMT (Advance Mining Technologies) threaten to kill a fellow Bitcoiner. : Bitcoin << so is this going to be the talking point of the militant us left for the remainder of 2014 ? "bitcoin is bad because bitcoiners kill people" ?
08:49 mircea_popescu fluffypony: I need to threaten someone << no, you just need to infiltrate the command centers of your would be "enemies" and then lead on their nonsense for lulz and butthurt.
08:49 chetty worse, it promotes hate speech and offends people
08:49 mircea_popescu o look, an asicminer lolsuit.
08:50 mircea_popescu the people who can't afford to call to australia are mary-sue-ing
08:51 mircea_popescu fluffypony: yep - and the reality is that a natural disaster that destroys a city will probably affect your business' ability to function anyway << this is, again, the nonsense i was rejecting.
08:51 mircea_popescu if buenos aires sinks tomorrow mpex won't be disrupted in any sense. business doesn't mean anything physical unless your business sucks
08:51 mircea_popescu much like business didn't mean farming in 1514, unless your business sucked.
08:51 fluffypony I was thinking more about some of my business units where physical stock would be destroyed and the logistics chain would disappear
08:52 BingoBoingo OMG Gawker has an essay about adversity I can relate to (after the shitty intro) http://gawker.com/when-god-grabs-you-by-the-balls-1584192836/all
08:52 assbot When God Grabs You By the Balls
08:52 fluffypony then having a million site and customer backups won't help us to continue functioning immediately
08:52 mircea_popescu pankkake: my point is just that n+1 is much better than n; just a game of probabilities << yeah, the game works like this : the more backups you have the more avenues for theft. the fewer backups you have, the more avenues for accidental loss.
08:52 mircea_popescu it's tight.
08:52 mircea_popescu fluffypony, right.
08:53 pankkake I don't have any clear text backup
08:53 mircea_popescu so then do you backup your pw ?
08:54 pankkake currently I have two solutions, which slightly benefit from obscurity
08:54 mircea_popescu right. but in the general terms, backups sit in between the constraint described.
08:54 pankkake yes; while petty theft is not my concern targeted attacks can
08:55 mircea_popescu i wasn't distinguishing.
08:55 mircea_popescu anyway, anyoine with forum accounts left : pls put phinn gage on an ever escalating aggravation schedule until he fucking comes here.
08:55 mircea_popescu like, firs tweek, one pm a day per person. next week, two. then four. ETC!!11
08:56 fluffypony maybe he doesn't know how IRC works?
08:57 fluffypony this is how I imagine Mats_cd03 cruises the streets: http://i.imgur.com/0koacPX.jpg
08:57 mircea_popescu you type the moisturizer into the box!
08:57 fluffypony lulz
08:58 Mats_cd03 ;)
08:59 mircea_popescu "ex board member here using an anonymous alias so i will not receive backlash from other board members or friedcat
08:59 mircea_popescu there is many dodgy scam things going on at asicminer which has personally costs me over a million dollars"
08:59 mircea_popescu everyone can has a million dolla these days. even people affraid of forum retaliationz
09:00 chetty Five of the Most Dangerous Taliban Commanders in U.S. Custody Exchanged for American Captive// well americans everywhere are screwed now, us has given up no negotiations policy
09:00 mircea_popescu o hey.
09:00 mircea_popescu who did they trade ?
09:00 chetty prisoners from gitmo
09:00 mircea_popescu no i get that part.
09:01 mircea_popescu who's the presidential bff
09:01 chetty Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl
09:01 mircea_popescu ahahaha WHAT
09:01 mircea_popescu nobody ?!
09:02 mircea_popescu dude this should be a book. every chapter's title could be "and here we punch ourselves in the face for no reason whatsoever"
09:02 chetty Sergeant Bergdahl's recovery is a reminder of America's unwavering commitment to leave no man or woman in uniform behind on the battlefield.
09:02 chetty election coming up
09:02 mircea_popescu weak hand administration probably figured "it's win-win" because they give up five worthless towelheads which had to be kept at a per day cost far exceeding the cost to rent a private jet.
09:03 mircea_popescu so it's a "cost cutting measure"
09:03 Mats_cd03 dude is a pos
09:03 mircea_popescu meanwhile in the real world... i guess the secretary of state better be careful traveling.
09:03 chetty yeah except for the target now on our backs
09:03 mircea_popescu yup
09:03 Mats_cd03 walked off a base then gets two soldiers killed in ensuing rescue ops
09:04 mircea_popescu i tell you, they cut the most important policy pillar over nothing ?! it's beyond comedic.
09:04 mircea_popescu i guess coming up next week, obama promises the us will never use its nuclear arsenal, as part of the inauguration of a primary school in a provincial town in kenya.
09:05 chetty the headlines are very loud about it breaking the law too, for what little thats worth these days
09:05 mircea_popescu "it'll be our gift to you, the biggest diamond we could find for some random anon swine. long live socialism! everything's equal to everything else!"
09:06 fluffypony save the environment, buy energy efficient lightbulbs that come in packaging like this: http://i.imgur.com/7Xh1Hwa.jpg
09:06 mircea_popescu anyway, proper headline being "taliban scores largest victory to date, surpassing mpex's previous record"
09:07 chetty indeed, you been outdone
09:07 mircea_popescu happens to the best of us.
09:08 mircea_popescu i wonder if up next is china announcing that it will sanction any countries that implement us aml/kyc measures.
09:08 chetty lmao, that would be cool
09:11 Mats_cd03 the govt has always been willing to negotiate with terrorists
09:12 Mats_cd03 words otherwise are empty and do not describe reality accurately
09:13 chetty yeah but not on the front page, and so forth
09:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16227 @ 0.00087816 = 14.2499 BTC [-] {3}
09:25 jurov http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/270re9/anybody_know_why_bitcoinaverage_usd_price_is_not/ << two cans rattle
09:25 assbot Anybody know why BitcoinAverage USD price is not now including Bitstamp? : Bitcoin
09:26 jurov dunno if bitstamp survives upcoming bubble
09:26 fluffypony well here you go
09:26 fluffypony a Brainfuck interpreter written in Bash
09:26 fluffypony http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/26z1er/cmv_if_i_know_perl_or_python_i_dont_need_to_learn/chw49ml
09:27 assbot Figs comments on CMV: if I know Perl or Python, I don't need to learn bash.
09:36 fluffypony mircea_popescu: apparently you called bitcoinpete out as being a liar - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631605.msg7070591#msg7070591
09:36 assbot BMF has lost access to it's wallet [UnModerated]
09:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 20 @ 0.028 = 0.56 BTC [-]
09:40 fluffypony !up Pierre_Rochard
09:40 fluffypony Pierre_Rochard: great comments in the appcoins article
09:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 21 @ 0.02857138 = 0.6 BTC [+] {2}
09:41 Pierre_Rochard thank you
09:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 63 @ 0.03 = 1.89 BTC [+]
09:42 fluffypony I love the way the guy has a ninja mask in his picture
09:42 fluffypony or whatever that is
09:42 fluffypony but he's the "Executive Director of the Mastercoin Foundation"
09:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 19 @ 0.03094732 = 0.588 BTC [+] {2}
09:43 fluffypony executive director by day...ninja warrior by night?
09:43 Pierre_Rochard http://www.projet13.com/image_upload/cagoule-militaire-3-trous-noire.jpg
09:43 Pierre_Rochard it’s worn by thieves around the world
09:43 Pierre_Rochard very appropriate for his role
09:43 fluffypony lol
09:44 Pierre_Rochard more comfortable than wearing stockings I would guess
09:47 fluffypony pankkake: oh noez, usagi negrated us
09:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37900 @ 0.0008779 = 33.2724 BTC [-] {2}
10:05 mircea_popescu fluffypony, drastic
10:05 fluffypony omf this conversation in -otc with usagi is classic
10:06 fluffypony he's now saying that we have no moral right to negrate him
10:06 mircea_popescu we being whim
10:06 mircea_popescu whom*
10:06 fluffypony danielpbarron, Apocalyptic, pankkake, bitcoinpete, and myself
10:06 fluffypony he's garnished us all with the negrate salt
10:06 mircea_popescu that's a list
10:07 mircea_popescu lol pony's first rate war ?
10:08 fluffypony hah hah - I gave up arguing with him
10:09 mircea_popescu that thread is quite the comedy goldmine.
10:09 mircea_popescu someone notify porkchop
10:10 mircea_popescu ;;rated usagi
10:10 gribble You rated user usagi on Sat Nov 24 19:40:40 2012, with a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: None.
10:10 mircea_popescu dawg im old skool
10:10 fluffypony lol
10:11 mircea_popescu ;;gettrust usagi
10:11 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask tsukino!tsukino@unaffiliated/tsukino. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user usagi: Level 1: -1, Level 2: 1 via 11 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=usagi | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=usagi | Rated since: Mon Jun 18 12:33:55 2012
10:12 danielpbarron i get the feeling that he's trying to do some sort of poorly managed public relations campaign right now
10:12 BingoBoingo !up Pierre_Rochard
10:12 mircea_popescu i wonder if the current treatment of neg trust over l2 composition is to ignore the 2nd layer negs or to convey them
10:13 BingoBoingo ;;rate usagi -1
10:13 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user usagi has been recorded.
10:13 mircea_popescu suppose you -1 someone and that someone -1s someone else. should you have 0 or -1 l2 with the someone else ?
10:13 BingoBoingo That is an interesting question
10:14 mircea_popescu it's actually very deep because it has fundamental graph theory implications
10:16 danielpbarron why not a +1 with that someone else? (the enemy of my enemy is my friend sort of thing)
10:16 mircea_popescu !up bitstein
10:16 Pierre_Rochard enemy of my enemy is my friend vs. scammers scamming scammers. I think the latter makes more sense in the context of trust relationships
10:16 mircea_popescu danielpbarron, that definitely doesn't work like any group algebra i ever heard of
10:17 danielpbarron well they definitely shouldn't get a -1; I don't trust the first guy, so why would I trust his negative ratings?
10:17 mircea_popescu im regarding it purely as a graph theory / algebraic structures isse
10:18 mircea_popescu this may be the first time in human history that actual problems of fundamental math can be experimentally tested ;/
10:21 BingoBoingo ;;gettrust assbot usagi
10:21 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask tsukino!tsukino@unaffiliated/tsukino. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user assbot to user usagi: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -4 via 6 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=usagi | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=usagi | Rated since: Mon Jun 18 12:33:55 2012
10:22 mircea_popescu !up Smilence
10:23 bitstein ;;rate Pierre_Rochard 10
10:23 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user Pierre_Rochard has changed from 10 to 10.
10:23 fluffypony anyway - conversation starts here: http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-otc/logs/2014/06/01#l1401630332
10:23 assbot BitcoinStats
10:25 mircea_popescu you two know each other ?
10:25 fluffypony nope
10:25 mircea_popescu not you lol. bitstein and Pierre_Rochard
10:26 fluffypony oh
10:26 fluffypony lol
10:26 Pierre_Rochard yes, we went to college together
10:26 fluffypony confuzin
10:26 bitstein Pierre_Rochard and I are very close friends
10:26 Pierre_Rochard I’m the treasurer at the Nakamoto Institute, bitstein is dear leader
10:27 fluffypony bitstein: the appcoins smackdown was your article, no?
10:27 bitstein That was Daniel Krawisz, our resident genius.
10:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29100 @ 0.00088118 = 25.6423 BTC [+] {3}
10:29 fluffypony aaah ok
10:29 fluffypony he needs a pat on the back and a cookie, he did an excellent job
10:30 bitstein I'll be sure to let him know, thanks
10:32 mircea_popescu !up Sebastan
10:32 mircea_popescu i c
10:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.23383333 = 0.7015 BTC [+] {3}
10:33 mircea_popescu ;;gettrust assbot bitstein
10:33 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask bitstein!48b66859@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.182.104.89. Trust relationship from user assbot to user bitstein: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=bitstein | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=bitstein | Rated since: Thu May 29 11:37:42 2014
10:33 mircea_popescu ;;gettrust assbot Pierre_Rochard
10:33 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask Pierre_Rochard!~Rochard@198.255.186.129. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Pierre_Rochard: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Pierre_Rochard | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Pierre_Rochard | Rated since: Sun Jun 1 10:18:50 2014
10:33 mircea_popescu ;;rate Pierre_Rochard 1 CPA
10:33 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Pierre_Rochard has been recorded.
10:35 Bet placed: 5 BTC for No on "1BTC >= $10,000 USD" http://bitbet.us/bet/635/ Odds: 16(Y):84(N) by coin, 20(Y):80(N) by weight. Total bet: 454.86965777 BTC. Current weight: 48,196.
10:36 BingoBoingo ;;rate usagi -10 Based on rumors and innuendo
10:36 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user usagi has changed from -1 to -10.
10:36 Sebastan thanks mircea_popescu... do i have voice now permanently?
10:36 mircea_popescu for half hour.
10:37 Sebastan how can i make it permanent?
10:37 mircea_popescu the way it works is that assbot looks at hte people it trusts, if they trust you you can ask it to voice you.
10:38 mircea_popescu practically speaking, introduce yourself, build trust, all that.
10:38 Sebastan ok...
10:39 mircea_popescu read the logs to get up to speed.
10:39 BingoBoingo ;;rate pirateat40 -1 kerfluffle
10:39 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user pirateat40 has been recorded.
10:40 nubbins` so i bought a trumpet
10:40 mircea_popescu lamo
10:40 fluffypony is that a name for a sex toy?
10:40 Pierre_Rochard Thanks mircea_popescu
10:40 nubbins` fluffypony, not yet XD
10:40 BingoBoingo fluffypony nubbins`: well, it vibrates
10:40 mircea_popescu "this one time, in nubbins camp..."
10:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00199356 = 0.3987 BTC [+] {3}
10:41 fluffypony lol
10:41 nubbins` worst hangover of my life yesterday, struggling not to vomit as i get out of bed, glance at FB on my way to make coffee and see that a friend is selling a trumpet
10:41 nubbins` "hmmm..."
10:41 mircea_popescu Pierre_Rochard, you're the guy i was trying to get to audit the ohio rental asset thing right ?
10:41 Pierre_Rochard yes
10:41 fluffypony nubbins`: excellent time to make a decision
10:41 * nubbins` nods
10:42 Pierre_Rochard it’s been a while - the bezzle is time consuming
10:42 nubbins` also excellent ammunition for when the tourette hooker neighbour starts acting up
10:42 mircea_popescu cool.
10:43 mircea_popescu now he gets to try it out on his own :D
10:44 fluffypony nubbins`: when are you designing b-a t-shirts? you know we'll all buy and you can make a smart profit off it
10:44 BingoBoingo !up Pierre_Rochard
10:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 8 @ 0.02999998 = 0.24 BTC [-] {2}
10:45 nubbins` fluffypony, good question :D
10:46 nubbins` what's the phrase again?
10:46 nubbins` "#b-a, where the bezzle comes to die"?
10:46 fluffypony lol
10:46 fluffypony no it's "Check your Bitcoin privilege"
10:46 mircea_popescu i can sorta visualize the bezzle as this very raunchy bubble butted 20something mulatto
10:47 nubbins` mircea_popescu: always trying to borrow a couple of bucks
10:47 mircea_popescu spending her days playing the trophy whife in suburbia and coming a few nights a week for a total anal gangfest in da hood.
10:47 nubbins` bad breath
10:47 nubbins` that's the bezzle alright
10:50 Pierre_Rochard spot on
10:50 nubbins` fluffypony: i'll do up a mock-up this week and hopefully get an order page set up
10:50 fluffypony nubbins`: ok awesomesauce
10:50 nubbins` fair warning, probably won't print any unless we get 12+ people ordering em
10:51 fluffypony I'll order 4
10:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00088086 = 18.0576 BTC [-] {3}
10:51 thestringpuller I'll take 100
10:51 thestringpuller what am I ordering?
10:51 fluffypony and if you do a woman's one I'll order 2 for the wife as well
10:53 thestringpuller when will we get "Not a member Bitcoin Foundation" t-shirts
10:53 thestringpuller I want to buy 50 of those and hand them out at Bitcoin meetups
10:53 nubbins` hah
10:54 fluffypony lol
10:57 danielpbarron I'd buy one
11:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2444 BTC [+]
11:07 fluffypony thestringpuller: I see you're fighting a losing battle with Mr. It's-Not-My-Fault-I-Didn't-Do-Anything-Wrong
11:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 150 @ 0.00201246 = 0.3019 BTC [+] {7}
11:07 mircea_popescu dr foreskin ?
11:07 mircea_popescu damn, you just referenced every derp on the forum.
11:07 mircea_popescu burnside ?
11:07 mircea_popescu nefario ? ukyo ? who ? which ?
11:08 BingoBoingo Deprived?
11:08 BingoBoingo Thermos?
11:08 fluffypony still Usagi
11:08 fluffypony https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=489187.0
11:08 assbot NYAN.A Holders...what happened?
11:08 chetty how do you tell one derp from another?
11:09 fluffypony "Even Mircea's NYAN copycat fund lost money"
11:09 fluffypony first he praises you - "Even Mircea knows Pete is lying"
11:09 fluffypony then he insults you
11:09 mircea_popescu copy what ?!
11:10 mircea_popescu this must be some sort of obscure internet joke with cats and stuff is it ?
11:11 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I think that's a reference to the CDO whose only asset to not collapse in value was MPOE bonds
11:12 mircea_popescu but that was a few years back.
11:12 mircea_popescu i thought it has something to do with that rainbow cat thing
11:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46250 @ 0.00088393 = 40.8818 BTC [+] {3}
11:15 BingoBoingo The rainbow cat thing was what usagi named his shit after
11:15 mircea_popescu hence copycat
11:17 artifexd nubbins`: I'll commit to two #b-a shirts. An XL and a S.
11:17 mircea_popescu one for him,
11:17 mircea_popescu one for his hard cock.
11:18 artifexd lol
11:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.00088466 = 19.6395 BTC [+]
11:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20950 @ 0.00088466 = 18.5336 BTC [+]
11:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00088466 = 12.1198 BTC [+]
11:36 chetty I would ask for shirts but someone would need to deliver, customs here is impossible
11:39 nubbins` where's here?
11:39 kakobrekla that bad??
11:39 kakobrekla weird mp came through in the first place.
11:41 mircea_popescu i will have you know i cam through with a full bottle of tuica
11:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.0008797 = 1.7594 BTC [-]
11:42 chetty travel in is not a problem, its the mail
11:55 benkay mircea_popescu: what kinds of things have you noticed b-a missing?
11:56 mircea_popescu people.
11:58 chetty hmm ok is b-a bitcoin-assets or Buenos Aries
11:59 kakobrekla its seems its one and the same now.
12:00 BingoBoingo http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/06/01/may-combined-trading-statement/
12:00 assbot May Combined trading statement | Bingo Blog
12:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.19807860 BTC to 9`140 shares, 24049 satoshi per share
12:00 penguirker New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/06/01/may-combined-trading-statement/
12:00 BingoBoingo mike_c: You can numbers now.
12:03 nubbins` got some more talking heads on vinyl the other day
12:03 nubbins` i tell ya, there's something deeply satisfying about listening to music this way
12:04 jurov lol one can't just send t-shirts to argentina?
12:04 kakobrekla in the frequent walks to the platter.
12:06 benkay ^^ sounds archaic
12:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00088085 = 12.0676 BTC [+]
12:06 nubbins` kakobrekla it's the worst on 45rpm 12"s
12:07 kakobrekla mhm
12:07 nubbins` like this meat puppets one i have
12:07 nubbins` so quick!
12:07 nubbins` but, dat sound quality
12:08 chetty argentina has a high import tax on everything, I am looking into other ways to get things
12:08 kakobrekla meh, most of the gain from vinyl comes from proper mastering imho
12:09 nubbins` nod
12:09 nubbins` phun phact, quality degrades as you get closer to the middle
12:11 kakobrekla my analogue gear is boxed up waiting for better days. im running low on space.
12:11 benkay less travel per wavelength -> lower fidelity?
12:11 nubbins` benkay, yep
12:12 benkay nud
12:12 benkay nod
12:12 nubbins` not unusual to "de-ess" tracks farther into the platter, to remove slurred S and Z sounds
12:13 nubbins` you can hear this done incorrectly on the Pixies album Surfer Rosa
12:14 nubbins` "hiSH teeth were white aSH SHnow" etc
12:14 mircea_popescu nud!
12:14 nubbins` don't nud your head at me!
12:15 kakobrekla my nudle in 9 inch long
12:15 chetty https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Booy_X4CcAABgnt.jpg
12:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6789 @ 0.00088131 = 5.9832 BTC [+] {2}
12:15 asciilifeform re: u.s. exchanging five taliban for one grunt: there is precedent.
12:15 asciilifeform http://garypowers.org/1962-spy-exchange-of-powers-for-abel
12:15 assbot The 1962 Spy Exchange of Powers for Abel | Francis Gary Powers, Jr.
12:16 asciilifeform ^ where they traded a captured great master for a nobody
12:21 BingoBoingo http://bitbet.us/bet/677/bitcoin-network-difficulty-14bn-on-bastille-day/#c2949
12:21 assbot BitBet - Bitcoin network difficulty > 14Bn on Bastille day :: 112.59 B (85%) on Yes, 19.53 B (15%) on No | closing in 1 week 5 days | weight: 7`146 (100`000 to 1)
12:25 jurov ;;bc,stats
12:25 gribble Current Blocks: 303673 | Current Difficulty: 1.0455720138484837E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 304415 | Next Difficulty In: 742 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 5 hours, 10 minutes, and 54 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11248185431.8 | Estimated Percent Change: 7.57925
12:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00088067 = 11.1845 BTC [-] {2}
12:35 asciilifeform in other news,
12:35 asciilifeform http://cryptome.org/2014/05/truecrypt-forensics.htm
12:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0255501 = 0.1022 BTC [-]
12:43 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: re: 'la florida' etc << looks exactly like '90s russia.
12:43 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: where, as a boy, right before leaving, i traded a shoebox full of toilet paper money for 1 usd.
12:44 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: as for what the germans did there - if i recall, they built self-contained villages and had little to no contact with the locals.
12:44 asciilifeform (there being - in argentina)
12:46 chetty I think right now a lot of locals are just trying to survive until the next election
12:46 asciilifeform i've no idea whether it is possible to build an unmolested autarkik village in modern ar.
12:49 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/la-florida-and-other-places/
12:52 benkay chetty: how will an election change things?
12:56 chetty benkay, it wont, but that seems to be the attitude in many places. The ills are blamed on who/what has current power so folks think changing that helps
12:58 mircea_popescu asciilifeform, ok, precedent, but of spies.
12:58 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo, nice how thaat french diff bet worked out huh
12:59 mircea_popescu asciilifeform, the problem is argentina has been 90s russia for ~50 years now.
12:59 mircea_popescu and it has been 1890s russia for 50 years last century too
13:01 mircea_popescu <asciilifeform> i've no idea whether it is possible to build an unmolested autarkik village in modern ar. <<< you can do pretty much exactly whatever the fuck you please. yesterday';s newspaper carried a report of a gang of 5 men that attacked a minor detention center to get a kid out
13:01 mircea_popescu didn't find him there
13:01 mircea_popescu 4 others took advantage and escaped
13:01 mircea_popescu (thieves, all)
13:03 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Yeah, likelyhood of the outcome is pretty even, but weight is finally keeping late bettors in check.
13:04 mircea_popescu its funny that the MARKET adjusted to match the tool.
13:12 jurov ;;ticker
13:12 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 668.62, Best ask: 669.88, Bid-ask spread: 1.26000, Last trade: 669.88, 24 hour volume: 13942.96127422, 24 hour low: 620.1, 24 hour high: 670.05, 24 hour vwap: 642.992163095
13:12 mircea_popescu from gringos in argentina, chapter 1 : "didja call that bitches' biscuit woman ?" refering to one busquet beatriz
13:13 fluffypony mircea_popescu: how's your Spanish coming along?
13:14 mircea_popescu my spanish was very good anyway
13:15 fluffypony ah ok
13:15 mircea_popescu Freitas and co also monitored the Klout score of each of their social bots to see how they fared. (Klout is an online service that measures the influence of Twitter accounts, giving them a score between 0 and 100). “We find that the socialbots achieved Klout scores of the same order of (or, at times, even higher than) several well-known academicians and social network researchers,” they say.
13:15 mircea_popescu perhaps unsurprisingly.
13:16 mircea_popescu More surprisingly, the socialbots that generated synthetic tweets (rather than just reposting) performed better too. That suggests that Twitter users are unable to distinguish between posts generated by humans and by bots. “This is possibly because a large fraction of tweets in Twitter are written in an informal, grammatically incoherent style, so that even simple statistical models can produce tweets with quality s
13:16 mircea_popescu imilar to those posted by humans in Twitter,” suggest Freitas and co.
13:16 mircea_popescu o boy.
13:20 nubbins` hm, this bob dylan album has the labels on the wrong sides
13:20 nubbins` and one of the song titles is wrong
13:20 * nubbins` raises eyebrow
13:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.08205249 = 0.5744 BTC [-] {3}
13:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.0829699 = 0.4978 BTC [+] {2}
13:27 benkay SCAM
13:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.08413445 = 0.9255 BTC [+] {3}
13:27 nubbins` i'm wondering if this is a common thing or if i have a shiny gem
13:27 nubbins` it looks to be a first pressing
13:29 pankkake this is unfortunately too common
13:32 benkay feature not a bug
13:32 benkay maybe its got numismatic value
13:32 pankkake wrong track order, typos, etc.
13:32 pankkake amplified by people who tag their releases wronger
13:34 thestringpuller ;;ud numismatic
13:34 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=numismatic | Nov 5, 2007 ... the study or collection of coins, medals, paper money, etc.
13:34 thestringpuller never knew that word
13:35 pankkake http://www.istorage-uk.com/datashur.php the battery is a nice touch, I was wondering how to boot from these devices [I AM NOT SUGGESTING THIS IS SECURE GUYZ]
13:35 assbot datAshur - The iStorage datAshur is the world' s most secure, easy to use and affordable USB flash drive
13:35 pankkake thestringpuller: weird! I've known it since childhood
13:36 nubbins` okay, it's apparently the first canadian pressing
13:36 nubbins` no mention of the labels being reversed though, from what i can find
13:37 pankkake I remember selling some of my old Francs over face value
13:37 pankkake where did you find the info? discogs?
13:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.02710001 = 0.1084 BTC [-] {4}
13:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.08254067 = 0.2476 BTC [-] {2}
13:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.02710001 = 0.1084 BTC [-] {4}
13:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0842499 = 0.1685 BTC [+] {2}
13:40 nubbins` http://www.searchingforagem.com/1960s/International001.htm
13:40 assbot Bob Dylan 1962
13:40 nubbins` "Columbia CS 8579 (Canada), late 1962"
13:40 pankkake ;;ticker --currency eur --market bitcoincentral
13:40 gribble Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 478.0, Best ask: 480.04, Bid-ask spread: 2.04000, Last trade: 480.5, 24 hour volume: 79.09568087, 24 hour low: 444.0, 24 hour high: 480.5, 24 hour vwap: 464.24043179
13:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.02707778 = 0.1083 BTC [-] {4}
13:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.08474993 = 0.2542 BTC [+] {3}
13:43 pankkake http://www.discogs.com/Bob-Dylan-Bob-Dylan/release/3395485 The title of A1 is misinterpreted on the label and reads ''She's No Good''.
13:44 nubbins` http://giant.gfycat.com/OblongSlowCur.gif
13:44 nubbins` yeah, i have that title misprint
13:44 nubbins` but my SIDE 1 label is on side 2, and vice versa
13:47 benkay ;;ticker --market bitcoincentral
13:47 gribble Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 648.2967, Best ask: 651.7052, Bid-ask spread: 3.40850, Last trade: 651.7052, 24 hour volume: 79.79518087, 24 hour low: 605.3496, 24 hour high: 655.1137, 24 hour vwap: 633.113324864
13:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31200 @ 0.00088061 = 27.475 BTC [-] {2}
13:48 asciilifeform pankkake: re: dataAshur:
13:49 asciilifeform ;;google ashur
13:49 gribble Ashur (god) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashur_(god)>; Ashur - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashur>; Ashur - Spartacus Wiki - Wikia: <http://spartacus.wikia.com/wiki/Ashur>
13:49 asciilifeform there we go.
13:50 asciilifeform pankkake: ever 'pick' a keypad lock?
13:51 asciilifeform (hint: principle is the same regardless of whether keypad is electric or mechanical.)
13:52 assbot [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 443 @ 0.00211457 = 0.9368 BTC [-]
13:53 asciilifeform from manual: 'The iStorage datAshur, unlike other similar drives, is preloaded with an unlimited number of randomly
13:53 asciilifeform generated encryption keys.' << translation: keys produced from prng.
13:54 pankkake lol preloaded keys?!
13:55 asciilifeform 'Each time hacking is detected (i.e. the wrong PIN is entered a total of 10
13:55 asciilifeform consecutive times), the current encryption key is deleted...' << translation: passcode is not the prng seed.
13:56 pankkake anyway, not my use case. could be a usb key in a safe, but this is more portable
13:56 asciilifeform 'Your iStorage datAshur is supplied with a built-in rechargeable battery.' << translation: key is kept in sram.
13:57 asciilifeform answer to keypad riddle, since nobody bothered attempting it: the dirtiest and most worn keys are the numerals in the code.
13:57 asciilifeform if machine was used recently - the ones with fingerprints.
13:58 pankkake https://www.geek.com/chips/usb-flash-drive-locks-makes-your-data-a-little-more-secure-868751/ lol
13:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 59 @ 0.02999999 = 1.77 BTC [+] {5}
13:59 pankkake I remember a usb key that was lockable. well it was a kickstarter project
13:59 pankkake http://www.reddit.com/r/gadgets/comments/1edvhu/crypteks_usb_kickstarter_goes_silent_the_dark/
13:59 assbot Crypteks USB Kickstarter Goes Silent. The dark side of crowd-funding. : gadgets
14:00 asciilifeform also a mechanical lock, if i recall.
14:00 pankkake yes, I mean physical lock. it's what I'm interested in
14:01 asciilifeform pankkake: buy a pistol lockbox and be done with it.
14:02 Blazedout419 thoughts on AM shares?? Can not decide if they are worth .2ish or not =\
14:02 pankkake looks quite big. I also want it on my keychain :)
14:02 fluffypony Blazedout419: maybe as a joke thing, like "hah hah I bought some AM shares back in the day'
14:03 Blazedout419 kinda my thoughts
14:03 Blazedout419 oh well
14:03 asciilifeform pankkake: what is the expected enemy?
14:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.123 = 0.246 BTC [+]
14:04 pankkake none, I just want some storage that would almost never leave my sight, and the only non-software encrypted part would be a /boot partition
14:05 nubbins` Blazedout419 for the street cred without the financial risk, turn a USB block erupter heat sink into a keychain
14:05 pankkake and I don't think anyone could really manage to steal and replace the unencrypted data
14:05 BingoBoingo pankkake: Amputate leg, put pistol safe in prosthetic
14:06 pankkake butt plug is simpler
14:06 pankkake nubbins`: maybe that's what I will do… they're more of a bother than anything else to run now
14:08 pankkake so I could do everything I want with a simple USB key, but wouldn't mind another layer of security, however crappy itis
14:10 BingoBoingo pankkake: You could try dumb usb key plus steganography
14:10 pankkake how do I steganography in the real world?
14:11 pankkake http://static.mrmatt57.org/img/iamaKey8GB/Lacie-USB-Key-Macro1.jpg might be a better security, if thought to be an ordinary key :p
14:11 BingoBoingo get usb key with giant plastic case, use empty space to hide chip from another usb drive, swap chips to access secrets hidden as [fill-in-the-blank]
14:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00088051 = 11.5347 BTC [-]
14:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 50 @ 0.03 = 1.5 BTC [+]
14:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.08125703 = 0.4063 BTC [-] {3}
14:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19400 @ 0.00087967 = 17.0656 BTC [-] {2}
14:38 mircea_popescu <Blazedout419> thoughts on AM shares?? Can not decide if they are worth .2ish or not << likely not.
14:39 mircea_popescu yay finally trilema above twitter for search on my name.
14:39 mircea_popescu woot.
14:40 BingoBoingo Who knew Twitter was the one holding you back all along?
14:41 mircea_popescu lol like the leg ?
14:41 mircea_popescu no but google has this asinine "will score twitter/wikipedia above anything else just for being twitter/wikipedia"
14:41 mircea_popescu not facebook tho.
14:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00088036 = 3.9616 BTC [+] {2}
14:42 BingoBoingo Of course like the leg http://oglaf.com/1dad/
14:42 assbot Number 1 Dad
14:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.24653978 = 1.4792 BTC [+] {3}
14:44 mircea_popescu that sounds just like me.
14:45 mircea_popescu http://oglaf.com/appealtoheaven/ << lol
14:45 assbot Appeal to heaven
14:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00087881 = 14.1488 BTC [-] {4}
14:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13412 @ 0.00088074 = 11.8125 BTC [+] {2}
14:56 Naphex correction time already?;D
14:57 fluffypony apparently
15:00 benkay ;;ticker
15:00 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 624.71, Best ask: 624.98, Bid-ask spread: 0.27000, Last trade: 624.99, 24 hour volume: 18660.99215086, 24 hour low: 618.53, 24 hour high: 683.26, 24 hour vwap: 646.455113359
15:00 Naphex prettu 4k dump
15:00 Naphex pretty*
15:04 BingoBoingo ;;gettrust assbot assbot
15:04 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user assbot: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 8 via 8 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=assbot | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=assbot | Rated since: Fri Apr 11 02:04:55 2014
15:05 Blazedout419 ;;ticker --market all
15:06 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 641.06, vol: 20278.69329105 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 638.336, vol: 14535.67162 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 640.0, vol: 18787.00403301 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 638.97, vol: 45.4117812 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 654.011702, vol: 9399.03690000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 648.48167, vol: 27.86134313 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 654.672, vol: 121.10704943 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
15:06 Blazedout419 ;;more
15:06 gribble 642.072496624
15:06 chetty http://manipulism.com/
15:06 assbot Manipulism and the Weapon of Guilt
15:07 chetty Whether called crab mentality in the Philippines (“If I can’t have it neither can you”) or the Jante Law in Scandinavia (“Don’t think that you are more than others”), the tall poppy syndrome in collectivistic-influenced commonwealth countries (“Cutting down the tall poppy”), or schadenfreude in Germany, these syndromes all describe the same condition of pathological narcissism that thrives commonly in collectivism on undermining
15:07 chetty and is driven by severe inferiority complex.
15:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4787 @ 0.00088047 = 4.2148 BTC [-]
15:10 thestringpuller chetty lives
15:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.0008809 = 7.9281 BTC [+]
15:12 BingoBoingo from our favorite skinnkavaj https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg7013153#msg7013153 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg7023854#msg7023854
15:12 assbot ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It
15:12 assbot ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It
15:13 pankkake !up skinnkavaj
15:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.0262999 = 0.1578 BTC [+]
15:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.00088164 = 18.4263 BTC [+] {2}
15:14 thestringpuller damn chetty that was a good link
15:15 pankkake horrible cover though
15:16 chetty yeah but those first three chapters are a great read
15:16 chetty *** disclaimer I am only on chapter 2
15:17 BingoBoingo thestringpuller: Thank you for continuing against Usagi. His declaration of "Let me tell you about bingoboingo. He is a successful fund manager because he has never had to weather the storm of an exchange shutdown. Wake up." made me lol.
15:20 BingoBoingo %book
15:20 atcbot 25k@256 15k@250 0k@250 | 45k@158 10k@155 53k@152
15:22 BingoBoingo Seriously, the gall of Usagi to call be sucessful or a fund manager
15:22 thestringpuller BingoBoingo: well today I realized if I had invested all those coin in MPCD.A instead NYAN.A it would be a non-issue.
15:22 thestringpuller Then I got mad because humans are this stupid...
15:23 pankkake unfortunately you can only buy Manipulism on Amazon's prison system
15:23 thestringpuller then I felt a bit sad that humans can be so stupid they don't know they're stupid.
15:23 chetty the author is giving it away thru FB, I dont FB tho :(
15:23 thestringpuller Ultimately I think usagi is trying to cling onto the forum. If he's labeled a scammer there how will he raise money?
15:24 fluffypony yeah
15:24 chetty I dun know whats worse, deliberate scam or just stupid
15:24 BingoBoingo thestringpuller: I'm more outraged that he feels entitled to opine on funds, success, or management
15:25 pankkake I'm just outraged by refusal to learn
15:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8182 @ 0.00088238 = 7.2196 BTC [+] {2}
15:26 BingoBoingo It's like Dairy Queen trying to talk about actual ice cream http://www.bnd.com/2014/05/31/3234384/2-brothers-found-passed-out-in.html
15:26 assbot CASEYVILLE: Brothers passed out in Dairy Queen parking lot face heroin charges | Top Stories | News Democrat
15:28 chetty jajajajaja dairy queen =ice cream
15:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16563 @ 0.00088088 = 14.59 BTC [-] {2}
15:28 fluffypony thestringpuller: my favourite is that he feels he is owed an apology
15:29 Blazedout419 dairy queen is iced milk..not icecream
15:29 BingoBoingo Blazedout419: Milk might be too generous a description of the input
15:29 Blazedout419 fair
15:30 fluffypony caucasian water?
15:33 BingoBoingo I think slurry of miscelaneous carbohydrates, proteins, and lipids in aqueous suspension is as specific a description as possible for the slurry
15:33 fluffypony lol
15:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24435 @ 0.00087755 = 21.4429 BTC [-]
15:34 chetty ya think there is any actual food in it?
15:35 thestringpuller fluffypony: Hah. Emotions have no place in business.
15:35 Blazedout419 thank god i never bought icedrill
15:35 Blazedout419 deadterra almost had me sold...
15:35 Blazedout419 those guys still not paid divs
15:35 thestringpuller ;;gettrust deadterra
15:35 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user deadterra: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 4 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=deadterra | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=deadterra | Rated since: Thu Apr 5 15:12:28 2012
15:36 BingoBoingo chetty: Maybe if you are on an elemental diet for digestive issues. I imagine mixed with crushed flintstones vitamins it might be useful as a crude form of TPN.
15:37 assbot [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 1093 @ 0.00213397 = 2.3324 BTC [+] {2}
15:39 thestringpuller BingoBoingo: Now I understand why you're such a good writer for teaching purposes. You are a librarian!
15:39 thestringpuller lol
15:40 thestringpuller I've been referencing your GPG guide for new employees
15:40 thestringpuller and they say "Wow this isn't so bad"
15:40 Apocalyptic nice thestringpuller
15:40 BingoBoingo thestringpuller: Thanks, I am indeed trained as one.
15:40 thestringpuller particularly the ones who are computer illiterate
15:40 Apocalyptic gotta educate the people on how to use GPG
15:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3701 @ 0.00087806 = 3.2497 BTC [+]
15:44 bitcoinpete fluffypony: i'm here! catch me up
15:45 bitcoinpete looks like you guys were having quite the tete-a-tete with usagi
15:45 fluffypony oof
15:45 fluffypony did you get an email too?
15:47 bitcoinpete maybe... lol
15:47 bitcoinpete not even gpg'd
15:48 fluffypony plain text ftw :)
15:48 BingoBoingo thestringpuller: This Usagi conversation has me thinking I might need to blog sometime soon on loses in Bitcoin.
15:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25950 @ 0.00088207 = 22.8897 BTC [+] {3}
15:49 thestringpuller bitcoinpete: hey you sparked it with your article
15:49 BingoBoingo !t m f.mpif
15:49 assbot [MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00021726 / 0.00021726 / 0.00021726 (9529 shares, 2.07 BTC), 30D: 0.0002155 / 0.00021724 / 0.00021726 (121153 shares, 26.32 BTC)
15:49 thestringpuller Pulled the RSS and said "Wow he depred again? Is that even possible?"
15:49 bitcoinpete thestringpuller: looks that way!
15:49 bitcoinpete though perhaps i misrepresented the kakobrekla bit
15:50 BingoBoingo I'm not at all surprised this http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/06/01/may-combined-trading-statement/ didn't spark f.mpif trading activity in either direction.
15:50 assbot May Combined trading statement | Bingo Blog
15:50 fluffypony oh bitcoinpete on that topic
15:50 fluffypony https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631605.msg7070591#msg7070591
15:50 assbot BMF has lost access to it's wallet [UnModerated]
15:50 fluffypony "Even Mircea knows what pete wrote was a lie. "
15:50 BingoBoingo bitcoinpete: Yeah, the kakobrekla situation reads like a negotated settlement.
15:51 thestringpuller fluffypony: where did you read that?
15:51 fluffypony everything you wrote was a lie, and everyone knows it, bitcoinpete! look! he has proof!
15:51 fluffypony thestringpuller: click link above
15:51 chetty jajajajaja
15:52 chetty foget teaching gpg, got to learn to read first
15:53 thestringpuller oh yea I remember that. I think it's in the WoT too that's why kako has him at 1 and not neg rated
15:55 Apocalyptic ATC retarget in 22 blocks, should get interesting
15:55 BingoBoingo %diff
15:55 atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 455357.13 Est. Next Diff: 152519.08 in 22 blocks (#32256) Est. % Change: -66.51
15:56 BingoBoingo thestringpuller: And remember that a small number of positive rating isn't necessarily an endorsement.
15:56 pankkake I think I got only 1 block at that diff
15:58 thestringpuller chetty: i need to learn a lot of things :P
15:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 29 @ 0.03 = 0.87 BTC [-]
15:59 BingoBoingo I still can't belive Usagi called me a fund manager. I manage four piles of money. Everything that goes into making it a fund is through Mircea. This distinction is evidence of the root of Usagi's failure.
15:59 thestringpuller that's probably my fault
16:00 thestringpuller "succesfful fund manager"
16:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.03 = 0.3 BTC [-]
16:00 thestringpuller ugh I need to learn to type too chetty
16:00 thestringpuller I should have said something like "one of the funds managers"
16:00 thestringpuller or "profit center manager"
16:01 pankkake I thought BB managed a fund earlier than MPIF, I was confused
16:01 BingoBoingo Well, it stings more when it comes from his fingers.
16:01 thestringpuller sometimes I guess it pays to be a bit more pedantic
16:01 BingoBoingo pankkake: Only privately trading for Mircea
16:02 pankkake my own tries at trading btc/eur haven't been very successful. at least I know what I'm not good for
16:02 nubbins` many people never gain such knowledge
16:03 chetty it is in the nature of people to project the bad stuff they are up to onto others.
16:03 nubbins` http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjDDXc4PEIk
16:03 assbot Talking Heads: Live at Wembley Arena 1982 (Full Video) - YouTube
16:03 BingoBoingo I'm actually kind of surprised the BTC/RON operation avoided a loss, but the $525 to $500 yo-yo stayed with us long enough for Naphex's exchange to catch up.
16:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.02559557 = 0.2304 BTC [-] {9}
16:04 decimation re: truecrypt audit: https://opencryptoaudit.org/reports/iSec_Final_Open_Crypto_Audit_Project_TrueCrypt_Security_Assessment.pdf
16:04 decimation Note what they chose to *not* audit on page 2:
16:05 BingoBoingo Also there's the part where any high price could become BTC's new permanently elevated plateu
16:06 decimation sorry section 2 (pg 10):
16:06 decimation The assessment explicitly excluded the following areas:
16:06 decimation Volume parsing as it relates to a file container
16:06 decimation Rescue Disks code paths activated when the disk does contain the private key
16:06 decimation Cryptographic Analysis, including
16:06 decimation RNG analysis
16:06 decimation Algorithm implementation
16:06 decimation Security tokens
16:06 decimation Keyfile derivation
16:06 decimation Hidden Containers
16:06 decimation Linux and Mac Components
16:06 decimation All other components not explicitly included
16:06 decimation They audited: the bootloader and the Windows driver
16:06 chetty http://pastebin.com/1q7McVgv
16:06 assbot I once read a joke describing the inferiority complex facilitating social equili - Pastebin.com
16:06 pankkake that's what got me - I have more EUR than initally but would have done better if stayed in BTC. not that I really care as I wanted to stay in EUR for the time being
16:07 pankkake but that's less fun for a BTC fund
16:08 decimation chetty lol. The US is already there
16:09 chetty its all monopoly money anyway, have funs
16:13 BingoBoingo Well, in the future the BTC/RON operation will likely have months with bigger swings. There may also be months where it just sits, like ATC/BTC did for the most part.
16:16 nubbins` https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=635311.new#new
16:16 assbot Buying Casascius coins [verifiable custody chains ONLY]
16:16 nubbins` worth a shot
16:18 thestringpuller has there ever been any defective casascius coins
16:18 nubbins` how would you define "defective"?
16:18 nubbins` there are plenty of 1 BTC silvers with really poor, uneven lasering on the edges of the holos
16:18 decimation chetty: re: manipulism >> It's a straight line from "let's have every man and woman vote for government" to manipulation of mass opinion
16:18 thestringpuller nubbins`: the private key is unredeemable so to speak
16:19 nubbins` ah, who knows? most of them never get opened
16:19 decimation vox populi, vox dei. So as long as you get the people to say/think/do what you want, it's legitimate
16:19 nubbins` i've never heard of someone peeling a holo and having an unreadable key inside
16:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.02507571 = 0.1755 BTC [-] {7}
16:20 Naphex BingoBoingo: so after 1 month of usage any suggestions/complaints regarding the frontend?
16:21 BingoBoingo Naphex: Not from me atm. mircea_popescu has some issues with it when he needs to log in.
16:21 bitcoinpete fluffypony: mircea_popescu kakobrekla since i'm still not 100% clear on the pirate insurance thing, i've updated the usagi article to include the milk story, since that seems to be more solid footing
16:22 bitcoinpete he's no longer "known criminal usagi," but "milkman usagi" http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/05/31/usagi-back-back-back-it-up-ayee/
16:22 assbot Usagi: Back, Back, Back It Up. Ayee! | When Bitcoin Met Pete
16:23 bitcoinpete and with that, i bit ye a hasty adieu. it might be tuesday before i get back...
16:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0235 = 0.1175 BTC [-]
16:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.07941664 = 0.953 BTC [+] {2}
16:28 decimation Obama: Those who argue otherwise -- who suggest that America is in decline or has seen its global leadership slip away -- are either misreading history or engaged in partisan politics.
16:29 BingoBoingo http://meta.ath0.com/2014/05/30/truecrypt-warrant-canary-confirmed/
16:31 Naphex BingoBoingo: how is that confirmed o.O;
16:31 benkay does anyone have a full copy of manipulism?
16:32 BingoBoingo Naphex: It isn't really, but supports the idea that the worst must be assumed
16:32 jurov i bought it to my kindle, did not downloaded yet
16:32 Naphex its probably true,
16:32 benkay jurov: aiding and abetting!
16:32 jurov it was only $3.50
16:32 benkay ;)
16:32 thestringpuller benkay: just buy the book
16:32 thestringpuller YOU TELLIN ME TO PAY FOR THINGS ALL DA TIME
16:32 decimation based on my point about the "audit" though - and asciilifeform's link, one must wonder why the USG would bother when it's probably weak
16:33 benkay busted
16:33 jurov does anyone know what is last official NAV of F.MPIF?
16:34 jurov i'm working on report and want to price them
16:35 jurov april report says 0.00021315 but it was updated after everything sold out
16:35 jurov or not?
16:36 BingoBoingo That's a very good question
16:37 decimation to be fair, the exploits on ascii's link appear to be attacks on a running system, not a cold system
16:38 thestringpuller !ticker m F.MPIF
16:38 assbot [MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00021726 / 0.00021726 / 0.00021726 (9529 shares, 2.07 BTC), 30D: 0.0002155 / 0.00021724 / 0.00021726 (121153 shares, 26.32 BTC)
16:38 thestringpuller trading above last published NAV heh
16:40 thestringpuller !up twentyseventy
16:40 kakobrekla ba related www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiF5HHkHvX0
16:42 thestringpuller !up Smilence
16:44 decimation kako: which part? that the crazy argentinians would build a village with insufficient flood protection, or the idea of people riding old bicycles through the ruins of western civilization?
16:46 jurov ;;calc 21726/21500
16:46 gribble 1.01051162791
16:48 BingoBoingo decimation: Well, I guess if you wanted to quit, tripping your NSA canary would be a hell of a way to go out
16:49 jurov from http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=1-05-2014 i gather nav did not change, just MP put 1.05% haircut in the price
16:49 assbot #bitcoin-assets log
16:49 jurov ;;calc 21726/21315
16:49 gribble 1.01928219564
16:50 nubbins` practicing embouchure makes lips feel funny
16:51 BingoBoingo nubbins`: Get some bigger brass...
16:51 fluffypony nubbins`: at least you'll be able to tell people that you blow a damn good trumpet
16:52 nubbins` BingoBoingo it's not the size of the brass but how you apply the lips ;D
16:52 nubbins` fluffypony not yet, someday maybe :D
16:52 BingoBoingo nubbins`: It's all about the Tuba
16:52 nubbins` tell that to my trumpet!
16:53 decimation I can sympathize with wanting to quit ... trying to make x86 hardware secure is a herculean task
16:55 BingoBoingo decimation: And if you put that together with the identified problems adding to the task
16:59 decimation if you read the audit report, see Appendix B to see the "code quality" issues
17:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23947 @ 0.00087916 = 21.0532 BTC [-] {2}
17:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 11 @ 0.02724007 = 0.2996 BTC [-] {2}
17:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 3 @ 0.09000001 = 0.27 BTC [-]
17:08 jurov hm.. penguirker is silent
17:09 jurov http://explo.yt/post/2014/06/01/F.MPIF-May-2014-marketmaker-statement
17:09 assbot F.MPIF May 2014 marketmaker statement - serialized delusions
17:10 jurov i flipped 100k shares at profit, but when NAV is considered, made slight loss
17:14 penguirker New blog post: http://explo.yt/post/2014/06/01/F.MPIF-May-2014-marketmaker-statement
17:14 jurov oooh
17:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07920007 = 0.2376 BTC [-] {2}
17:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0792 = 0.396 BTC [-]
17:17 assbot [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 106 @ 0.00215257 = 0.2282 BTC [+]
17:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17868 @ 0.00087809 = 15.6897 BTC [-] {2}
17:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00087806 = 10.5367 BTC [-]
17:33 benkay does blockchain.info provide a testnet endpoint?
17:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07941625 = 0.2382 BTC [+]
17:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12024 @ 0.00088082 = 10.591 BTC [+]
17:57 assbot [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 148 @ 0.00209713 = 0.3104 BTC [-]
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18:13 jurov benkay maybe blockr does
18:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00087985 = 6.8188 BTC [-]
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18:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.246878 BTC [+]
18:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.246898 BTC [+]
18:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14757 @ 0.00087841 = 12.9627 BTC [-]
18:48 Naphex BingoBoingo: http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5212985&cid=47117051
18:48 assbot TrueCrypt Website Says To Switch To BitLocker - Slashdot
18:49 mircea_popescu kinda yest news no ?
18:49 Naphex yeah
18:49 Naphex but explains some of the canary
18:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00087889 = 14.5896 BTC [+] {3}
18:51 mircea_popescu chetty: http://manipulism.com/ << theyre prolly on to something
18:51 assbot Manipulism and the Weapon of Guilt
18:52 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Thank you for continuing against Usagi. His declaration of "Let me tell you about bingoboingo. He is a successful fund manager because he has never had to weather the storm of an exchange shutdown. Wake up." made me lol. << makes two of us.
18:52 mircea_popescu "that bingoboingo thinks he can drive because he's never tried to put the gearbox in reverse straight from the 4th."
18:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 43 @ 0.02368627 = 1.0185 BTC [-] {4}
18:54 mircea_popescu o yea speaking of deadterra
18:54 mircea_popescu ;;rated deadterra
18:54 gribble You have not yet rated user deadterra
18:56 kakobrekla ;;rated deadterra
18:56 gribble You rated user deadterra on Wed Sep 4 18:41:21 2013, with a rating of -5, and supplied these additional notes: sloppy opprtunistic unreliable, bad at what he does, avoid.
18:56 mircea_popescu ;;rate deadterra -1 inept crowd follower ; promoted a lengthy list of meanwhile blown assets.
18:56 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user deadterra has been recorded.
18:57 kakobrekla late to the party.
18:58 mircea_popescu ya well, we can't all be informed and shit.
19:00 Blazedout419 that icedrill is a train wreck
19:05 mircea_popescu decimation: They audited: the bootloader and the Windows driver << lolaudit oif all time.
19:06 mircea_popescu jurov: does anyone know what is last official NAV of F.MPIF? << you'll have to report your trades before that can be published yu know.
19:07 mircea_popescu a nm there it is,
19:11 mircea_popescu %t
19:11 atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 158 Ask: 248 Last Price: 250 24h-Vol: 0k High: N/A Low: N/A VWAP: N/A
19:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00087776 = 11.5864 BTC [-] {2}
19:11 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo, what's your call on avg price for atc ?
19:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0839999 = 0.168 BTC [+]
19:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.00087737 = 13.0289 BTC [-]
19:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 65 @ 0.002299 = 0.1494 BTC [+] {2}
19:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00088082 = 3.7875 BTC [+]
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19:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.00087729 = 18.774 BTC [-] {3}
19:46 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: the funny thing is usagi claims you copied his NYAN fund. But in actuality you took the concept and did it correct. Despite how many scammers were parading as "asset issuers", you managed to recoup ~52% of the original capital invested. MPCD.A based on your statements actually made a profit (since MPCD.A got paid out before B and C of course), etc.
19:46 thestringpuller just seeing those numbers again 2 years later, really really made it clear
19:49 mircea_popescu !up jomm
19:49 penguirker New blog post: http://thewhet.net/2014/line-betting-on-bitbet-may-2014/
19:49 mircea_popescu thestringpuller, when was this nyan.a thing made ?
19:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51398 @ 0.00088074 = 45.2683 BTC [+] {3}
19:50 mircea_popescu kakobrekla, do i know how much mpif panacea share is worth ?
19:51 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: unfortunately usagi doesn't keep comprehensive records like yourself so I have to guess
19:51 thestringpuller i want to say June
19:52 thestringpuller of 2012
19:53 mircea_popescu "Back in April we explained to a mostly innocent community what a CDO is and how’d it work."
19:53 mircea_popescu i fail to see how some forum nitwit implementing badly what he's read of mpoe-pr's posts counts as anything.
19:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2386 @ 0.0008834 = 2.1078 BTC [+]
19:54 thestringpuller yea. sadly the n00b me should have invested in MPCD, but as you once said. We pay for our lessons.
19:54 mircea_popescu https://bitcointa.lk/?topic=76515.msg849401
19:54 assbot [MPEx] CDO roll call for bond issuers | Bitcointa.lk
19:57 mircea_popescu !up fiftystorms
20:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 84 @ 0.0052 = 0.4368 BTC [-]
20:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27368 @ 0.00087813 = 24.0327 BTC [-] {3}
20:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 136 @ 0.00210761 = 0.2866 BTC [-] {4}
20:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1233 @ 0.00008163 = 0.1006 BTC [-] {5}
20:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 60 @ 0.00320008 = 0.192 BTC [-] {4}
20:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 86 @ 0.00512069 = 0.4404 BTC [-] {3}
20:17 kakobrekla F.MPIF: Panacea: 2014.05; http://dpaste.com/20PK1PV.txt
20:20 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Looks like we might have to call it 200 satoshis
20:21 mircea_popescu makes sense.
20:21 mircea_popescu kakobrekla, what's it mean to mpif ?
20:21 mircea_popescu a ty
20:21 kakobrekla i dunno
20:22 kakobrekla you gave me 150 now you have 150.47241
20:23 mircea_popescu yep
20:24 kakobrekla dpaste is not permanent however so perhaps this needs to go someplace else
20:27 mircea_popescu prolly ya.
20:27 mircea_popescu start a blog!
20:27 mircea_popescu anyway, f.mpif may performance, 4.42419221, a little over 1%. 0.5ish of it went to cover for last month's misrepresentation of atc, leaving a little 1% clear.
20:28 kakobrekla how about you include it in mpif statement?
20:29 mircea_popescu aite ima drop it as a comment on bottom
20:33 bloctoc does the 1% go to NAV calculation immediately?
20:33 mircea_popescu hm ?
20:33 mircea_popescu jurov, i see you +0.3 btc or so.
20:39 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: That car anology explains sucinctly why I stay with automatic transmissions. I respect the limits of my ability to control a motor vehicle and anything that reliably saves me cogitive overhead is welcome.
20:39 * BingoBoingo also has never had a car without automatic headlights...
20:41 kakobrekla eh? i dont even think about gears when driving
20:41 kakobrekla comes natural after a while
20:42 BingoBoingo gears become a hassel when you share the road with American drivers
20:42 kakobrekla you havent been in italy
20:42 kakobrekla possibly only india could be worse
20:43 kakobrekla something like this
20:43 kakobrekla http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--2NHBRO1I--/i67fdhj2pizumpy94fnk.gif
20:43 kakobrekla cant find the one i had in mind.
20:44 mircea_popescu omfg who are these idiots
20:45 BingoBoingo kakobrekla: My concern is more the rural roads where I'll be cruising and then an old person in a buick or fucking red neck in a tractor interupts me.
20:48 kakobrekla BingoBoingo once you get a hang of it its not more complicated than breaking
20:48 kakobrekla do you have the breaks on auto as well?
20:49 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/fmpif-may-2014-statement/
20:49 BingoBoingo kakobrekla: Yeah, but when you are barreling down an open rural highway and half to slow to 20km/h because fucking tractors you need to save mental energy for cursing and obscene gestures
20:49 BingoBoingo clutch wastes a foot, shifter wastes a hand
20:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36400 @ 0.00087693 = 31.9203 BTC [-] {4}
20:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00087693 = 4.1216 BTC [-]
20:55 BingoBoingo ;;rate driving -1 scam
20:55 gribble Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
20:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.23010433 BTC [-]
20:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.23010592 BTC [+]
20:59 BingoBoingo %diff
20:59 atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 455357.13 Est. Next Diff: 152857.38 in 5 blocks (#32256) Est. % Change: -66.43
21:00 BingoBoingo For people who want firepower and a $200 colonoscopy http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/st-louis-police-to-auction-gangland-era-tommy-guns-to/article_e44a4553-e50f-5ec4-ab9c-3cfb3e9ecf65.html
21:09 benkay whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa
21:09 benkay if you're not in control of the gearbox, you're not driving the machine
21:09 benkay in the same way that if you're relying on an Object Relational Model to talk to your database, you're not actually writing data to your data store.
21:10 benkay that layer of abstraction in between you and the machine is going to either give you a headache down the road or you're not going to get the performance the machine is capable of
21:10 benkay with an ORM you'll inevitably find yourself writing raw SQL.
21:11 benkay and with an automatic transmission you're limited to "GIVE ME ALL THE FAST RIGHT NOW...please."
21:11 benkay that demonic AI in between you and the gearbox will prevent you doing anything to burn fuel at a rate sufficient to eke performance out of the thing.
21:11 kakobrekla <benkay> with an ORM you'll inevitably find yourself writing raw SQL. <- depends, but in most cases generally not specific to anyone, perf is not an issue
21:12 benkay *shrug*
21:12 benkay for 90% of derpy web apps, an orm is entirely adequate.
21:12 thestringpuller Damn BingoBoingo, i feel the same exact way
21:12 thestringpuller fucking driving
21:12 kakobrekla even for your mobile apps.
21:13 benkay a significant chunk of the remaining apps are going to get popular and have load requirements that rendering the abstraction layer insufferable.
21:13 benkay well, especially for mobile apps - in my experience most of the data is local to the phone
21:13 benkay that render*
21:13 BingoBoingo benkay: Well automatic transmission is less gearbox and more hydaulic slush box
21:14 benkay i'm familiar, BingoBoingo
21:14 benkay there are still gears, however.
21:14 benkay you're talking about the clutch.
21:15 benkay "torque converter"
21:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 17 @ 0.09 = 1.53 BTC [-] {2}
21:21 benkay https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=336876.msg6814414#msg6814414
21:21 assbot BITEASY.com | Fast Blockchain Explorer | TESTNET | REST API | WEBSOCKETS API |
21:21 benkay so who are the blockchain-as-a-service providers?
21:21 benkay blockchain.info
21:21 benkay blockr.io
21:21 benkay biteasy.com
21:22 benkay why is there no -assets bc-a-a-s provider?
21:22 benkay DO I HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING MYSELF?!
21:22 benkay ;;gettrust Transisto
21:22 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user Transisto: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=Transisto | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Transisto | Rated since: never
21:23 benkay !up Transisto
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21:23 benkay hey boss how it is
21:23 benkay Transisto: ^^
21:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.069 = 0.138 BTC [-] {2}
21:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.06875002 = 0.1375 BTC [-] {2}
21:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.0655 = 0.1965 BTC [-]
21:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17650 @ 0.00087599 = 15.4612 BTC [-] {4}
21:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 6 @ 0.05480166 = 0.3288 BTC [-] {2}
21:41 TomServo After having driven automatic transmissions all my life and buying an older land cruiser, I have to say driving a manual really is a pleasure.
21:41 TomServo I'm annoyed having missed out on it this long.
21:44 benkay it's a joy to pick a point on the performance curve.
21:59 BingoBoingo http://modernfarmer.com/2014/05/food-politics-pokemon/
21:59 assbot The Food Politics of Pokmon - Modern Farmer
22:00 thestringpuller !ticker m f.mpif
22:00 assbot [MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00021726 / 0.00021726 / 0.00021726 (9529 shares, 2.07 BTC), 30D: 0.0002155 / 0.00021724 / 0.00021726 (120653 shares, 26.21 BTC)
22:07 BingoBoingo http://www.cnet.com/news/why-are-sony-and-samsung-keeping-4k-content-to-themselves/
22:07 assbot Why are Sony and Samsung keeping 4K content to themselves? - CNET
22:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.0008785 = 1.4935 BTC [+]
22:09 thestringpuller BingoBoingo: you have my hours
22:09 BingoBoingo ?
22:09 thestringpuller lol WOW
22:09 thestringpuller i just cannot talk right
22:10 thestringpuller i must be autistic or something
22:10 BingoBoingo thestringpuller: Prolly the heat
22:10 thestringpuller Damn. I feel like you're using telepathy on me.
22:11 BingoBoingo thestringpuller: Nah, the midwest and south aren't too different this time of year other than the particulars that make the heat and humidity suck
22:14 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/smg-may-2014-statement/
22:19 BingoBoingo The statements are just flying today
22:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.0008785 = 11.5084 BTC [+]
22:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24000 @ 0.00087866 = 21.0878 BTC [+] {2}
22:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 43 @ 0.21318728 = 9.1671 BTC [-] {6}
22:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 199 @ 0.00210022 = 0.4179 BTC [-] {5}
22:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2488 @ 0.00087561 = 2.1785 BTC [-]
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23:06 benkay muahaha
23:06 benkay on the menu this week: charred corn crepes and long-marinated pastor
23:07 BingoBoingo Sounds delicious
23:11 decimation mircea_popescu: "the pitch of despair of the Franks and the Goths and whatever other barbarians by far and quite widely exceeded the bitterness of actual Roman Romans " So you are saying that Argentina is roughly upper Germania ca. 700? Sounds legit.
23:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20850 @ 0.00087561 = 18.2565 BTC [-]
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23:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16466 @ 0.00087559 = 14.4175 BTC [-] {2}
23:40 Mats_cd03 lol biteasy is written in clojure
23:41 kakobrekla what is biteasy
23:42 benkay and mongo
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