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← 2014-04-04 | 2014-04-06 → ↓
00:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.03809999 = 0.1143 BTC [+]
00:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.0598889 = 0.2396 BTC [-] {2}
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00:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1976 @ 0.0001 = 0.1976 BTC [+]
00:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 46 @ 0.0075 = 0.345 BTC [+]
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01:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1602 @ 0.00012512 = 0.2004 BTC [+] {6}
01:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2800 @ 0.00013964 = 0.391 BTC [+] {6}
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01:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.0009655 = 11.2964 BTC [-]
01:44 punkman http://investors.bitcoinshop.us/
01:46 chetty http://www.bbg.gov/blog/2014/04/04/russia-clamps-down-further-on-u-s-international-media/#.Uz9lSNdtU-V.twitter
01:46 ozbot Russia Clamps Down Further on U.S. International Media
01:48 punkman http://amultiverse.com/comic/2014/04/03/money-vs-people/
01:48 ozbot Scenes From A Multiverse » Money Vs People
01:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0560005 = 0.112 BTC [-]
01:59 MisterE ;; ident
01:59 gribble Nick 'MisterE', with hostmask 'MisterE!~MisterE@unaffiliated/mistere', is not identified.
01:59 MisterE ;;eauth
01:59 gribble (eauth <nick>) -- Initiate authentication for user <nick>. You must have registered a GPG key with the bot for this to work. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes.
01:59 MisterE ;;eauth MisterE
01:59 gribble Request successful for user MisterE, hostmask MisterE!~MisterE@unaffiliated/mistere. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/C97817F2EE7504A3
02:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00096525 = 5.4054 BTC [-]
02:03 MisterE ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:bce7bfaaf65b0f2b21be0261be00e6ddb9ba8d5a77f4bd375d4d9267
02:03 gribble You are now authenticated for user MisterE with key C97817F2EE7504A3
02:03 MisterE ;;ident
02:03 gribble Nick 'MisterE', with hostmask 'MisterE!~MisterE@unaffiliated/mistere', is identified as user 'MisterE', with GPG key id C97817F2EE7504A3, key fingerprint E54D4555D630311E14217FBDC97817F2EE7504A3, and bitcoin address 157afpHi6hoT9dTHs4nGuH78TRXd6rHG6N
02:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1929 @ 0.00012407 = 0.2393 BTC [-] {5}
02:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0560003 = 0.112 BTC [-]
02:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 258 @ 0.00088843 = 0.2292 BTC [+]
02:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1000 @ 0.00012 = 0.12 BTC [-]
02:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1280 @ 0.00017669 = 0.2262 BTC [+] {7}
02:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 662 @ 0.0001769 = 0.1171 BTC [+] {4}
02:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.06579965 = 0.1974 BTC [-] {2}
02:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0658 = 0.1316 BTC [+]
02:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30700 @ 0.00096387 = 29.5908 BTC [-] {4}
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03:19 chetty http://www.thegwpf.org/ministry-of-truth-crackdown-ordered-on-climate-change-sceptics/
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03:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 7 @ 0.01999702 = 0.14 BTC [-] {3}
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04:16 jurov !t h neobeeq
04:16 assbot [HAVELOCK:NEOBEEQ] 1D: 0.00000001 / 9.555E-5 / 0.00020000 (206015 shares, 19.68375163 BTC), 7D: 0.00000001 / 9.555E-5 / 0.00020000 (206015 shares, 19.68375163 BTC), 30D: 0.00000001 / 0.00215953 / 0.00450000 (597969 shares, 1291.32993711 BTC)
04:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 57 @ 0.03809999 = 2.1717 BTC [+]
04:22 jurov http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2284o7/mark_karpels_speaks/ lol
04:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1140 @ 0.00013993 = 0.1595 BTC [+] {5}
04:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 93 @ 0.02011797 = 1.871 BTC [+] {6}
04:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61218391 BTC [+]
04:34 BingoBoingo: I'm not really interested in the encyclopedic classification of scams but I can see where it has some value for clueless investors. I'm more into: 1/ it's scam, 2/ it still might be a scam or have same result, 3/ it's without a doubt not a scam and is a secure investment (like Treasury Bonds - although...looking at Argentina/Russia...). So far I have seen 1/ and 2/. Dank, RENT and others are 1/ no doubt. Neo and AM are 2/.
04:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2000 @ 0.00014 = 0.28 BTC [+]
04:53 jurov http://www.coindesk.com/neo-bee-ceo-danny-brewster-faces-fraud-allegations-cyprus/
04:53 jurov such drama
04:54 jurov However, the Cyprus Mail states that it contacted the police authorities and learned that Brewster has not reported any threats, either against him or his family.
04:56 thestringpuller !last m s.mpoe
04:56 assbot Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00096387 BTC [-]
04:57 Apocalyptic jurov, interesting
04:57 chetty what would bitcoin be without drama?
04:58 thestringpuller lol chetty you never got me those model formats lol
05:00 chetty hmm I gave them to MP
05:00 chetty get to #eulora
05:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 761 @ 0.00014 = 0.1065 BTC [+] {2}
05:15 tehfcuk Sup
05:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 7625 @ 0.00014 = 1.0675 BTC [+] {2}
05:20 tehfcuk Hello?
05:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3071 @ 0.00014877 = 0.4569 BTC [+] {4}
05:20 tehfcuk Anyone here?
05:20 thestringpuller yea
05:21 thestringpuller check logs
05:21 tehfcuk Sorry, new to IRC
05:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2500 @ 0.00014999 = 0.375 BTC [+] {3}
05:21 tehfcuk Is that people buying NeoBee?
05:24 chetty tehfcuk, its a kinda slow time of day, read some of the logs to get a feel for the place
05:24 chetty NEOEBEEQ, whatever that is
05:24 tehfcuk Alright, will do thanks
05:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2000 @ 0.00015 = 0.3 BTC [+]
05:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.0009655 = 12.5515 BTC [+]
05:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00545002 = 0.109 BTC [+]
05:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.6121449 = 3.0607 BTC [-] {3}
05:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2000 @ 0.00015 = 0.3 BTC [+]
05:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 725 @ 0.00013896 = 0.1007 BTC [-] {3}
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05:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10019 @ 0.0009655 = 9.6733 BTC [+]
06:00 chetty http://www.nationalreview.com/article/375091/new-torquemadas-charles-c-w-cooke
06:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 26 @ 0.0381 = 0.9906 BTC [+]
06:11 Apocalyptic .d
06:11 ozbot 5.007 billion | Next Diff in 1 blocks | Estimated Change: 22.3402% in -1d 23h 53m 9s
06:12 Apocalyptic in -1d , sounds legit
06:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.00096315 = 10.1612 BTC [-]
06:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 5299 @ 0.00012 = 0.6359 BTC [-] {2}
06:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10941 @ 0.0009655 = 10.5635 BTC [+]
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06:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 72 @ 0.0015808 = 0.1138 BTC [-] {6}
06:54 cazalla https://bitcoinfoundation.org/blog/?p=674
06:55 cazalla CoinLab now goldmember, toite like a toiger
06:59 Duffer1 remarkable
07:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1800 @ 0.00012 = 0.216 BTC [+] {3}
07:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 15 @ 0.0381 = 0.5715 BTC [+]
07:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 20000 @ 0.00011894 = 2.3788 BTC [-] {14}
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07:46 mircea_popescu punkman and yet they're not in here.
07:46 mircea_popescu "HOTEL MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS, INC."
07:47 mircea_popescu http://www.barchart.com/quotes/stocks/TUCN this'd be them.
07:47 ozbot TUCN | Stock Price Quote for Hotel Management Systems Inc.
07:47 punkman BTCS now
07:47 mircea_popescu makes no diff. weighted alpha -60%
07:48 mircea_popescu that means they reflected 60% of the movement in their industry, the other direction.
07:48 mircea_popescu almost as good as your average forum investor.
07:48 mircea_popescu 1 Year Return %:-72.97%
07:48 mircea_popescu 3 Year Return %:-410.81%
07:48 mircea_popescu 5 Year Return %:-98.72%
07:48 mircea_popescu trading 0.0050+0.0007 atm. i guess an article is in order.
07:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14223 @ 0.00096888 = 13.7804 BTC [+] {2}
08:01 mircea_popescu punkman http://trilema.com/2014/scam-flavour-of-the-day-bitcoinshopus-aka-hotel-management-systems-inc-tucn/
08:01 mircea_popescu ty for teh tip.
08:01 mircea_popescu want a link to a blog/social media acct/something from your nick ?
08:09 mircea_popescu [KS] the classification doesn't go like that. there's two distinct angles being confounded.
08:09 mircea_popescu from the investor pov, "it's a scam" to "it's a legit business" roughly maps their revenue. in this sense, a good corp in a bad market is a "scam".
08:10 mircea_popescu from the corp pov, "it's a scam" to "it's a legit business" roughly maps their honesty. in this sense, shit badly mismanaged by honest but clueless people is "not a scam"
08:11 mircea_popescu then the debate "it's a scam" vs "it's not a scam" can rage indefinitely, opposing some people arguing "this is so stupid it'll never see a return" with people arguing "these people are so honest and nice and trustworthy they don't even call women bitch ever!"
08:11 mircea_popescu nonsensical debate.
08:12 locksmith hey guys
08:12 locksmith here's something funny someone said to me on reddit
08:12 mircea_popescu i personally hold the latter responsible for it, because somehow it has been implanted in the head of every clueless fuckwit that how nice you are matters. it dun matter for shit.
08:12 locksmith "You are the alt account of ThickAsThieves, posting in IRC also as Sherlock & locksmith. So, why dont you start explaining how you and the ret of the Mircea team FUDed this up, hey?"
08:12 mircea_popescu o hey, welcome to the dreamteam, locksmith
08:12 locksmith btw my reddit username is sherlocksmith
08:13 mircea_popescu this chan is logged, and everybody in bitcoin reads it. even the redditards.
08:13 mircea_popescu well, the minority that can read anyway.
08:13 mircea_popescu speaking of which,
08:13 mircea_popescu .bait
08:13 ozbot http://25.media.tumblr.com/e8ab0210530f2c108dd31a55232ce0c1/tumblr_mr19a1Tq5z1sqhhcto1_500.png
08:13 locksmith nice
08:13 mircea_popescu not bad yeah.
08:13 mircea_popescu extra knickers but w/e.
08:14 locksmith yeah, I'm just trying to figure why that guy is connecting me to TaT though, beyond the fact that I've been warning people against neobee and also coming to this channel
08:14 mircea_popescu beyond ?
08:14 mircea_popescu what are you, from like the past ? this is the future dood.
08:15 locksmith lol
08:15 chetty those two items are enough to build a conspiracy :)
08:15 locksmith speaking of reddit, this is my latest hobby btw http://www.reddit.com/r/tumblrarchives
08:15 mircea_popescu .d
08:15 ozbot 6.120 billion | Next Diff in 2007 blocks | Estimated Change: -17.8582% in 16d 10h 12m 45s
08:16 chetty you only need 2 dots and the sharpie goes to work
08:16 mircea_popescu cazalla: CoinLab now goldmember, toite like a toiger << i remember in like early 2013 when i was like, ycombinator is running btc scams, and people were like nonono, coinlab and coinbase are not the same thing! and coindesk is relevant!
08:16 mircea_popescu orly.
08:16 locksmith well, there's no such thing as anonymity, only pseudonimity
08:17 mircea_popescu locksmith pity you weren't around when i stil ran dtng, you could have spammed reddit with links to that
08:17 mircea_popescu better porn anyway.
08:18 locksmith dtng?
08:18 mircea_popescu yeah, old imgboard
08:19 locksmith oh alright, I was trying to connect the dots with a sharpy and see if you could be linked to violentacrez
08:20 mircea_popescu supposedly she's one of my many alternate female identitties.
08:20 locksmith haha
08:20 mircea_popescu http://www.thegwpf.org/ministry-of-truth-crackdown-ordered-on-climate-change-sceptics/
08:20 locksmith you could've used it to spread more fud about neobee
08:21 mircea_popescu this is pretty lulzy stuff. "oh noes, people say things we don't like to hear. SILENCE THEM!!11"
08:21 mircea_popescu locksmith no cause then it'd have given the game away to the astute reddit monsterbators.
08:21 chetty yeah see what happened to the DEO of Mozilla?
08:21 mircea_popescu im saving that one for to ruin the feminist movement from inside or something.
08:21 chetty s/CEO
08:22 mircea_popescu chetty remember that article that hurt artifexd's feelings, which said programmers are fungible ?
08:22 mircea_popescu well... he got fungibled.
08:23 mircea_popescu ;;calc 1/450000
08:23 gribble 2.22222222222e-06
08:23 mircea_popescu ;;calc (1 - 1/450000) * 100
08:23 gribble 99.9997777778
08:23 locksmith dude don't target femen! coz you know
08:23 locksmith boobs
08:23 pankkake femens don't have boobs
08:23 pankkake ;;calc (1 - 1/600000) * 100
08:23 gribble 99.9998333333
08:23 chetty nah fungible he could go somewhere else, that guy will never work again
08:23 locksmith pankkake stop spreading fud https://www.google.com.cy/search?q=femen&espv=2&es_sm=94&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=s_U_U86JKs3csgaW1oDoDA&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1301&bih=682
08:24 pankkake I remembered them flatter
08:25 locksmith they got all shapes and colors
08:25 mircea_popescu ya srsly, the entire concept of femen is to form a group of little boys that pretend to be topless women.
08:26 locksmith yeah but they chop down wooden crosses without a shirt on
08:26 locksmith which is pretty hardcore
08:26 mircea_popescu Mounties: He cuts down trees, he skips and jumps, he likes to press wild flowers.
08:26 mircea_popescu He puts on women's clothing and hangs around.... In bars?
08:26 mircea_popescu (but no, they're nice gals, i'm just being contrarian)
08:26 locksmith so if I get this right, feminists are butthurt cos of having small boobs?
08:27 mircea_popescu most annoying feminists i saw are butthurt cause you can't really make their boobs out among all the spare tires.
08:27 mircea_popescu most pleasant feminists i know are simply not interested in getting it on with a failed boy pretending to be a man
08:27 mircea_popescu and prefer to be my slaves instead.
08:28 mircea_popescu in between these, a continuum
08:29 locksmith where I come from women are feminist by default. we change the configs though but some of them are using persistent state
08:30 mircea_popescu they should be feminists. woman in a harem eats a degree of magnitude more clam than snail. god help her if she doesn't like girls.
08:31 locksmith yeh but they end up not putting out
08:32 locksmith heard of a married couple the other day hasn't had sex in 4 years
08:32 locksmith that's why divorces are soaring here
08:32 locksmith people should just not get married
08:32 mircea_popescu well they should definitely pick better.
08:33 chetty God I hate feminists
08:33 mircea_popescu this "ima get married cause everyone else is" nonsense obviously can't work any better than "i'ma '''invest''' cause the rest of reddit thinks so"
08:33 locksmith I'm thinking it's best to live with someone, and if you end up not liking each other just split up. what's the point of bringing the state into the whole ordeal
08:33 mircea_popescu don't they have common law marriage where you live ?
08:33 locksmith what's common law marriage
08:33 mircea_popescu in most of the us the state involves itself anyway, provided you spend more than a few years together. or have kids.
08:33 mircea_popescu it's a "married by default" thing.
08:34 mircea_popescu in some us states merely failing to correct the other one's public claim you were married is good enough.
08:34 locksmith oh yeah, this exists here, for couples with kids or people living together for more than 7 years
08:34 locksmith but I don't live in the states
08:34 mircea_popescu used to be 20 years about 20 years ago.
08:34 mircea_popescu a well.
08:34 MisterE in WA men have been forced to pay child support for children that were not theirs because they lived with and "bonded" with the family
08:34 MisterE no doubt the guy was paying all the bills while he was there too
08:34 MisterE terrible state to get divorced
08:35 MisterE you want to file in Bexar County TX
08:35 locksmith MisterE now that's just fucked up. if that happened to me nobody would ever see me again
08:35 MisterE it's tilted so far in favor of woman in WA
08:35 mircea_popescu locksmith why would nobody see YOU again ?
08:35 mircea_popescu what, get new friends just because ?
08:35 locksmith I'd hit the road man
08:36 mircea_popescu if it happened to me nobody'd see that state again.
08:36 MisterE in WA if someone calls police for domestic violence someone *must* go to jail
08:36 locksmith mircea_popescu I was trying to not sound too terrorist-ish - I'm not hiding my IP :p
08:36 mircea_popescu lol
08:36 MisterE friend of mine got tazed because cops were there when he got home and he couldn't believe it
08:36 mircea_popescu dude. government IS SUPPOSED to be afraid of people.
08:36 mircea_popescu and not just a little afraid either. fucking petrified.
08:37 MisterE supposed indeed
08:37 mircea_popescu trembling in terror.
08:37 MisterE they sure have turned the tables on that one
08:37 mircea_popescu well cause of you schmucks.
08:37 locksmith hehe
08:37 mircea_popescu never has a thing as powerless as the state ever been invented.
08:37 MisterE hey I voted with my feet
08:37 mircea_popescu that also works.
08:37 MisterE 8-years ago I saw the writing on the wall
08:37 MisterE no more tax revenue from me
08:37 locksmith for all the shit that Cyprus is, our police here is very mild
08:38 locksmith you can go about the island and you only see police in their cars going around
08:38 locksmith the most terrifiying thing about cyprus police is if you do a traffic violation
08:38 locksmith that's their strong department, traffic
08:39 mircea_popescu anyway, my car's here so ima split. if the bitcoinshop.us tards show up, have them make an appointment. nothing before 8pm gmt.
08:39 locksmith ok, also if you guys see ThickAsThieves let him know I'm his alt-ego
08:40 pankkake LiteAsThieves?
08:41 locksmith no, this guy in reddit thinks that my username there, sherlocksmith, and my nick here, locksmith, is ThickAsThieves' alt identity
08:42 pankkake lol, they're never out of sockpuppet conspiracies
08:43 locksmith I have actually never even spoken to ThickAsThieves, but this guy sees I come to this channel and so doees ThickAsThieves
08:43 locksmith so we must be the same person, you know?
08:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.05521914 = 1.1596 BTC [-] {7}
08:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3963 @ 0.00017419 = 0.6903 BTC [-] {2}
08:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8012 @ 0.00097093 = 7.7791 BTC [+]
09:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 106 @ 0.05185789 = 5.4969 BTC [-] {12}
09:17 jurov that fred quimby trilema stuff got me thinking
09:17 Apocalyptic I really liked the article
09:17 jurov Looks if i want to have more people around, I have to actually and mercilessly use them
09:18 jurov not play toward their creative side
09:18 jurov only then they stay in my company
09:19 jurov But I don't want to surround me with people I secretly despise!
09:19 Apocalyptic I didn't see that in the piece
09:20 jurov it's closely related to the fungibility
09:20 jurov and quimby did not buy his animator espresso machine or bean bags
09:20 Apocalyptic the way you behave towards people is in no way related to their potential fungibility
09:20 Apocalyptic the way you consider them however is something else
09:20 jurov Quite the opposite. And they worked for him and the results were excellent.
09:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 427 @ 0.0003524 = 0.1505 BTC [+] {3}
09:22 jurov Apocalyptic if i consider them somehow,i'll behave too
09:22 jurov that can't be split from each other
09:23 Apocalyptic I think it can
09:25 jurov But that's beside the point. I saw the point "as do not treat anyone as exceptional"
09:25 Shakespeare a team does need a leader jurov, but a leader doesnt despise his men
09:25 Shakespeare he merely does not need to totally understand what they do
09:27 Apocalyptic jurov, I saw the point as a real life exemple of the value of management
09:27 Apocalyptic *proper* management that is
09:27 Shakespeare i think you'd find the working environment of successful "bean bag" companies to not be all espresso machines and fun
09:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18323 @ 0.0009715 = 17.8008 BTC [+] {2}
09:28 Shakespeare look at the hiring lockout thing between apple/google etc
09:28 Shakespeare finding and keeping talent is fierce
09:28 Apocalyptic and that is shouldn't be underestimated, as it tremendously often is
09:28 Apocalyptic (re the salary argument, "does this guy really deserve to be paid xxxx ? he does nothing...")
09:29 jurov Do you think Jobs and Schmidt did not despise(or had similar feeling) the underlings?
09:30 Apocalyptic now that's beside the point, maybe they did, maybe they don't
09:30 Apocalyptic *didn't
09:30 jurov There just *had* to be some feeling of superiority in them to do what they did
09:30 pankkake re moz CEO: http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=5651
09:30 Shakespeare Jobs and the underlings he despised were probably several layers of mgmt removed
09:31 Shakespeare it's not thaty they felt superior, it;s that they ARE superior
09:31 Shakespeare so when inferior beings frustrate your plans how does that make you feel?
09:33 Shakespeare we're getting away from the spirit of the Quimby article i think though
09:33 jurov you're right, i'd be upset
09:34 Shakespeare it was mostly about running a tight ship, regardless of your experience performing the art
09:34 Shakespeare showing that mindset can be corrupted
09:34 jurov Dunno. If I want to have company and attract and keep talent, that's what i need to become
09:34 Shakespeare and leadership is a basic form
09:35 jurov That was what tfa was about.
09:35 Shakespeare maybe you are not a leader
09:35 Shakespeare you dont need to be
09:36 Shakespeare or, maybe your decision as a good boss, migth be to hire a better manager
09:36 jurov Well, I could barely stand being an employee since I remember.
09:36 Shakespeare someone "brought in" Quimby right?
09:36 jurov Yes,me.
09:36 Shakespeare he didnt build the thing without intigation
09:36 Shakespeare instigation
09:37 jurov And I can't do the travelling,freelancing and squatting nomad either, attractive it may be.
09:37 jurov So the only option left is to have own company.
09:38 mircea_popescu: I see your point, but it's an improper use of the word "scam". A scam is a fraud. A good corp in a bad market is just that. You made a bad investment and calling it a scam is just shifting the blame. Of course, don't try to explain them word things to "investors".
09:39 Shakespeare so have a compan jurov!
09:39 Apocalyptic he already has
09:40 jurov Yes. Just discussing some difficulties with leading people.
09:40 jurov *my
09:40 Shakespeare yeah i didnt have much luck with it myself
09:40 Shakespeare mainly found it impossible to find talent locally
09:40 Shakespeare and impossiblly frustrating to educate the target audience i chose
09:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.0381 = 0.3429 BTC [+]
09:42 Shakespeare i have a dictator in me, but it's a muddled one and I still can revert to worrying about employees hating me, etc
09:42 Shakespeare eventually you just fire the ones that do because it makes them useless
09:43 jurov Um, I did not go to that point yet.
09:45 jurov Just worked together with few people that would be potential employees
09:45 jurov but all were either inept or lost interest
09:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05580901 = 0.279 BTC [+] {2}
09:46 Shakespeare do you wish they didnt lose interest? or was it indicative of their likely performance anywya?
09:46 Shakespeare kinda seems you might be worrying too much about being super boss this early
09:47 jurov Seems they wanted guaranteed salary and I did not feel like bullshitting them.
09:48 Shakespeare people have to have stake to care
09:48 jurov And once you pay full salary, you have to be super boss...
09:48 Shakespeare whether it be salary, equity, etc
09:48 Shakespeare it could even be their own desire to see the work done
09:48 Shakespeare or do the specific work
09:48 Shakespeare some kind of stake
09:49 jurov Or their mortgage.
09:49 Shakespeare yeah if they hard up, just the promise of moneymight do
09:49 Shakespeare what's your company do anyway?
09:51 jurov I have coinbr + 3 other projects in various stages...need mostly sysadmin(s).
09:53 Shakespeare i have only bad experience with such people and staffing, i'm no help...
09:53 jurov lol
09:53 Shakespeare maybe merge with some other co that offers good ones?
09:54 jurov Yeah, with niggers.txt
09:54 jurov they failed to deliver too, btw.
09:54 Shakespeare lol
09:55 Apocalyptic dem niggers
09:55 Shakespeare was your intent to be a net-based workplace?
09:55 Shakespeare or to have an office of your staff?
09:56 Shakespeare in my own experience, online thing is much worse and harder to manage employees/quality
09:56 jurov Trying the first one, maybe I should do the second instead
09:56 Shakespeare if you hire online people, they need to have super track record of delivering
09:56 Shakespeare and any of those guys probly dont need you
09:57 Shakespeare which means some other kind of stake
10:05 chetty jurov, you dont need to that hard on employees. what you need is their respect.
10:06 chetty its like raising kids, parents try to be friends not parents. You just need to be the boss, not their friend
10:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1000 @ 0.00012674 = 0.1267 BTC [-] {3}
10:12 nubbins` ^
10:12 nubbins` "i want my son to be my best friend"
10:13 nubbins` well, your son's gonna be a fuckin asshole
10:17 chetty nubbins`, +1
10:20 chairman_meow hello
10:20 chairman_meow anyone recommend an investment?
10:22 chetty haha, avoid scams - due diligence is always called for, more in bitcoins
10:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.000175 = 0.175 BTC [-]
10:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18990 @ 0.00097205 = 18.4592 BTC [+]
10:34 chairman_meow assbot heh
10:35 bounce jurov: I think you misread the piece. the guy had an enthousiastic stable of creatives. all he really had to do was keep'em focused, which does not include letting them hare off every which way.
10:42 jurov bounce why the fungibility highlight then?
10:43 jurov emphasis even
10:43 chetty cause thats the way MP writes, he exaggerates everything to make a point
10:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1029 @ 0.00013671 = 0.1407 BTC [-] {4}
10:46 jurov so what was the point of fungibility part?
10:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1544 @ 0.00013697 = 0.2115 BTC [+] {2}
10:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 4500 @ 0.00013599 = 0.612 BTC [-] {2}
10:50 danielpbarron anyone who bothered to read the bio of that Dr. Whateverhisnameis would have known to stay far away from that "investment"
10:50 danielpbarron it's written like a parody
10:51 chetty due diligence is seriously lacking among the muppets
10:52 jurov "genuinely love your people... like cogs in your machine"
10:52 danielpbarron eh, i'm giving them too much credit, he didn't come off that well in his own forum thread; they had adequate warning
10:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1000 @ 0.00014299 = 0.143 BTC [+] {2}
10:56 chetty well the machine wont work without cogs, and good cogs are better
10:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1000 @ 0.000143 = 0.143 BTC [+]
11:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3076 @ 0.0001431 = 0.4402 BTC [+] {3}
11:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1000 @ 0.00014788 = 0.1479 BTC [+]
11:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.00088842 = 0.1777 BTC [+]
~ 20 minutes ~
11:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.05580951 = 0.1116 BTC [+] {2}
11:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.055808 = 0.1674 BTC [-] {3}
11:41 thestringpuller ;;ticker
11:41 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 451.46, Best ask: 451.8, Bid-ask spread: 0.34000, Last trade: 451.8, 24 hour volume: 5754.99089432, 24 hour low: 439.99, 24 hour high: 456.23, 24 hour vwap: 447.289472287
11:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6154 @ 0.00097407 = 5.9944 BTC [+]
11:53 chairman_meow hey what do you think of CBTC losses?
11:54 pankkake losses?
11:56 danielpbarron https://www.cbtc.com/ Community Bank of Chesapeake?
11:56 ozbot Community Bank of the Chesapeake, Southern Maryland and Virginia
11:56 danielpbarron or http://www.cbtc.org/CBTC/Welcome.html Coastal Bicycle Touring Club?
11:57 chairman_meow https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=CBTC
11:57 danielpbarron i think everything about that whole exchange is sketchy, but individuals keep using it so what do i know
11:58 chairman_meow heh. it looks like CBTC has never made a profit
11:58 danielpbarron that's not a shock
11:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 107 @ 0.001565 = 0.1675 BTC [-] {4}
11:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] [PAID] 2.17250000 BTC to 86`900 shares, 2500 satoshi per share
11:59 pankkake why are they paying dividends then?
11:59 chairman_meow beats me
11:59 danielpbarron but investing isn't about making money for most individuals; they are happy just to participate
11:59 pankkake "This has been tried before. His response was about his love of life and how many of his friends and family have died when he was young."
11:59 Apocalyptic Management Fees฿104.6200
11:59 chetty actual profits are pretty rare in bitcoin space.
12:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18750 @ 0.0009695 = 18.1781 BTC [-] {3}
12:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.08562688 BTC to 5`076 shares, 41088 satoshi per share
12:00 danielpbarron lol i'm pretty rare i guess
12:01 benkay actual businesses are pretty rare in bitcoin space chetty
12:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] [PAID] 66.40585632 BTC to 5`076 shares, 1308232 satoshi per share
12:01 danielpbarron it's pretty easy if you make sure that what goes in is more than what goes out
12:02 benkay ;;lasers
12:02 gribble ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
12:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 15 @ 0.05756002 = 0.8634 BTC [-] {5}
12:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 35 @ 0.0381 = 1.3335 BTC [+]
12:02 chetty benkay, +1
12:03 thestringpuller danielpbarron: depends on if the business touches fiat ever...
12:03 benkay lotsa new handles in here -- y'all in the WoT yet?
12:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 43 @ 0.05118139 = 2.2008 BTC [-] {3}
12:03 * danielpbarron is
12:03 benkay and who are you, danielpbarron
12:03 benkay ?
12:03 benkay what's your flavor of scam?
12:03 danielpbarron Daniel Peter Barron
12:03 danielpbarron don't trust me
12:04 danielpbarron i have no investments for you
12:04 benkay o ya you're the troll thumper
12:04 benkay what are you doing here, danielpbarron ?
12:05 danielpbarron am I in the wrong place? I thought this was ground zero of the Bitcoin Business community
12:05 benkay hence the question "what are you doing here"
12:05 danielpbarron lol, start making sense
12:05 benkay not as in get out of here as you no doubt hear all the time, but what precisely are you doing.
12:05 danielpbarron learning
12:06 chetty worthy action
12:06 danielpbarron i think it would be irressponsible to hold BTC and NOT be in here
12:06 thestringpuller better than the forums...
12:06 danielpbarron that's an understatement
12:07 benkay danielpbarron: do you have this 'hoarders will starve' thesis of yours written out anywhere in more detail than 140 characters including a link allows for?
12:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 22 @ 0.10144642 = 2.2318 BTC [-]
12:08 danielpbarron what are you talking about
12:09 benkay ah i misread
12:09 danielpbarron (i don't mean that isn't my twitter account, it is)
12:09 benkay hoarder's won't starve, misconceiving bitcoin will kill you is that the gist?
12:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 15 @ 0.05779984 = 0.867 BTC [+] {5}
12:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0371 = 0.1113 BTC [-] {2}
12:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.038525 = 0.3082 BTC [+] {2}
12:13 danielpbarron individuals who oppose deflationary currencies in favor of inflationary, based on having being duped into thinking that someone would sooner starve to death then part with savings, will themselves starve to death when the infastructure feeding them inevitably collapses due to the inability of central banks to print their way into prosperity
12:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.0589999 = 0.236 BTC [+]
12:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.05580801 = 0.1116 BTC [+]
12:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 56 @ 0.05023069 = 2.8129 BTC [-] {8}
12:15 benkay p much.
12:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 27 @ 0.039 = 1.053 BTC [+]
12:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05 = 0.15 BTC [-]
12:21 benkay i had a crypto nightmare last night
12:21 benkay had a machine lifted with passphrase cached
12:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 27 @ 0.03737188 = 1.009 BTC [-] {3}
12:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 22 @ 0.05 = 1.1 BTC [-] {4}
12:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 22 @ 0.08299776 = 1.826 BTC [-]
12:26 cgcardona_ and the passphrase was 'aaaaaaaa' - it was truly a nightmare :)
12:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 27 @ 0.08299776 = 2.2409 BTC [-]
12:28 benkay the neobee physical locations never even existed?
12:29 cgcardona_ great rules btw (I only discovered the room yesterday) http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-assets-rules-and-regulations/ "Pros don’t give a shit, it’s the clueless twits and assorted pretenders that do"
12:29 cgcardona_ nicely put
12:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00097242 = 11.8635 BTC [+]
12:30 benkay here's a tough one
12:30 benkay which affiliation makes you look dumber to the average potential client?
12:30 benkay bitcoin?
12:31 benkay twitter?
12:32 Apocalyptic depends on your audience I guess
12:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.051 = 0.153 BTC [-] {2}
12:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0361 = 0.1083 BTC [-] {2}
12:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.08299776 = 0.249 BTC [-]
12:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.05349999 = 0.107 BTC [+] {2}
12:33 benkay doubtless.
12:34 kakobrekla bitcoin or myspace?
12:34 cgcardona_ depends what you mean by 'average' - I recently got a new part time job in SF w/ some relatively tech savvy people. During the interview we talked about btc and I told them about my project. The team leaders response was 'I think bitcoin is cool. I'm just not sure if it's gonna be the winner' (fair enough i suppose).
12:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.056 = 0.168 BTC [+]
12:35 cgcardona_ On the flip side I recently took on a client in honolulu and he is incredibly tech savvy and wanted nothing to do w/ twitter integration
12:35 cgcardona_ a third anecdotal evidence is my wife recently asked a local music store here on kauai if they'd let her buy me an ukelele for my bday w/ btc and they basically laughed her out of the store.
12:36 cgcardona_ so depending on where in the spectrum the person falls it would change (obvisously)
12:37 cgcardona_ *obviously
12:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 25 @ 0.05121599 = 1.2804 BTC [-] {5}
12:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 24 @ 0.03574997 = 0.858 BTC [-] {9}
12:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 24 @ 0.08299776 = 1.9919 BTC [-]
12:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15731 @ 0.00096355 = 15.1576 BTC [-] {4}
12:44 ellen_degenerate !help
12:44 assbot List of commands:
12:45 assbot !ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}
12:45 assbot !last <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l}
12:45 assbot !mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
12:45 assbot !rules <nick/chan> (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r}
12:45 assbot !exchanges <nick/chan> (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e}
12:45 assbot !jd (desc: returns relevant stats from https://just-dice.com)
12:45 assbot !bash <lines> (desc: bashes last <lines> lines to bash) {short: !b}
12:45 assbot !quote <lines> (desc: quotes last <lines> lines and returns dpaste url) {short: !q}
12:45 thestringpuller !jd
12:45 assbot Just-Dice stat: 15307 BTC profit, 31.9k BTC invested, 981.18 mio bets, 5.14 mio BTC wagered
12:48 MisterE http://loyalkng.com/2009/11/11/romanian-becomes-possessed-while-on-live-television/
12:48 ozbot Romanian Becomes Possessed While on Live Television — LOYAL K.N.G.
12:48 MisterE is it true?
12:51 mikaeldice I didn't read the article, but a cursory glance at the title ensures me that yes, it must be true.
12:52 mikaeldice *assures
12:52 ellen_degenerate !dd
12:53 ellen_degenerate heh I was looking for dogedice stats
12:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.0057028 = 0.2851 BTC [+] {6}
12:58 kakobrekla so
12:58 kakobrekla nefarios new exchange has shut down before it opened
12:59 kakobrekla congrats are in order.
12:59 danielpbarron he's still doing stuff?
12:59 danielpbarron does the scammer tag mean nothing?
13:00 kakobrekla trying to do stuff. no, scammer tag means more biz
13:01 nubbins` ;;seen mike_c
13:01 gribble mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 16 hours, 10 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <mike_c> looks like neobeeq has settled in at a 93% drop from suspended price. another win for havelock.
13:02 nubbins` lel.
13:02 kakobrekla !t h neobeeq
13:02 assbot [HAVELOCK:NEOBEEQ] 1D: 0.00000001 / 0.00010486 / 0.00020000 (275859 shares, 28.92529637 BTC), 7D: 0.00000001 / 0.00010486 / 0.00020000 (275859 shares, 28.92529637 BTC), 30D: 0.00000001 / 0.00193918 / 0.00450000 (665368 shares, 1290.27026328 BTC)
13:02 kakobrekla !l h neobeeq
13:02 assbot Last trade for NEOBEEQ on HAVELOCK was at 0.00012801 BTC [+]
13:03 Apocalyptic seriously #bitcoin is painfull to read today...
13:03 danielpbarron i don't trust fiat-based business ideas anymore; done with it
13:03 Apocalyptic everyone is a quantum crypto expert
13:03 danielpbarron lol, hi Apocalyptic
13:03 Apocalyptic everyone has an "idea"
13:04 danielpbarron hey at least i'm up front about how my "idea" is probably wrong
13:04 kakobrekla <danielpbarron> i don't trust fiat-based business ideas anymore; done with it < BAT U GOTSTA DIVERSIFUCK
13:04 Apocalyptic danielpbarron, yeah that's a good approach in learning
13:04 danielpbarron making a credit/debit card that links to Bitcoin kinda defeats the whole purpose of Bitcoin; i realize that now
13:04 Apocalyptic but then don't ruin it by arguing with me what "public key" means
13:05 thestringpuller ;;seen mike_c
13:05 gribble mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 16 hours, 14 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <mike_c> looks like neobeeq has settled in at a 93% drop from suspended price. another win for havelock.
13:05 danielpbarron (not that I invested in neobee or the like)
13:05 thestringpuller ;;later tell mike_c eulora wiki is down. /cry
13:05 gribble The operation succeeded.
13:06 danielpbarron (not that I invest at all, unless holding BTC counts)
13:07 thestringpuller invest in yourself? lol
13:08 kakobrekla we already discussed that
13:08 kakobrekla thats trilema credits.
13:08 thestringpuller i have enough trilema credits to last me till mircea has a full head of gray hair
13:08 kakobrekla hehe
13:08 thestringpuller lol
13:08 thestringpuller i should probably just archive all of it
13:09 thestringpuller put it on a disc and bury it in my yard in case: apocalypse
13:09 danielpbarron his is a clever system, you aren't paying to read the article forever; you're paying for the request to the server (which might happen multiple times per article if you keep going back to re-read)
13:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.05497995 = 0.11 BTC [+]
13:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31700 @ 0.00097242 = 30.8257 BTC [+]
13:10 thestringpuller yes if you want nice things you have to pay for them
13:10 thestringpuller like the electricity and bandwidth trilema consumes lol
13:10 thestringpuller (and vodka, and other various drugs)
13:11 danielpbarron i'm not complaining; I like the system very much
13:11 MisterE no ads?
13:11 danielpbarron most articles that are free to read usually suck anyway
13:11 danielpbarron which should come as no surprise to anyone with even a tenuous understanding of economics
13:12 thestringpuller MisterE: i assume no need for ads if you have a paywall
13:12 MisterE yea, just asking because my hosts file blocks most I never know
13:12 MisterE extension gets the stragglers heh
13:12 thestringpuller lol
13:13 danielpbarron i would so much rather pay per article then bother with ad-blocking
13:13 MisterE yea I planned to buy some credits
13:13 MisterE soon
13:13 danielpbarron it's worth it
13:13 danielpbarron buy them while they are still cheap
13:13 MisterE Im in fiat atm except cold storage
13:14 danielpbarron before Bitcoin, i would have said the opposite to all that
13:14 danielpbarron prefer ads to paywall etc
13:14 MisterE you kow what I agree
13:14 danielpbarron but that's because FIAT SUCKS
13:14 MisterE I prefer btc paywall
13:15 pankkake I wouldn't have an issue with a global paywall. if I have to register to every website, fuck it
13:15 MisterE happily pay to read ars and the sites I like
13:15 danielpbarron i don't want to give some stranger my credit card number to read an article
13:15 pankkake I guess bitcoin makes it a bit simpler
13:15 cgcardona_ yea one of the biggest things that's changed in my perception since regularly using btc is how fucked it feels to give a stranger my credit card info.
13:15 MisterE lol right
13:16 danielpbarron srsly
13:16 MisterE and you pay dearly for that privledge
13:16 pankkake you rarely do that though. it's paypal or some bank credit card processor
13:16 MisterE fucking swipe fees merchant fees
13:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.08299776 = 0.166 BTC [-]
13:16 cgcardona_ even at restaraunts
13:16 MisterE processor fees
13:16 MisterE international tx fees FFS!
13:17 danielpbarron fees aside, why does a 3rd party have to be involved at all? They can block the trade or get the state involved
13:17 cgcardona_ $5.00 minimum payments at gas stations etc have been making me buy double the crap I want for years
13:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.05497995 = 0.11 BTC [+]
13:17 danielpbarron that's why Bitcoin
13:17 cgcardona_ try to grab a tea and chips "oh sorry it has to be $5." "ok just double the order"
13:17 MisterE I'm in Bangkok and want money in the US in 5 min
13:17 cgcardona_ guess I should carry more cash >_<
13:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.08299776 = 0.166 BTC [-]
13:18 danielpbarron yeah i'm always paying in cash and answering "no" to "want a receipt?"
13:20 cgcardona_ damn the difficulty jump yesterday was intense http://bitcoindifficulty.com/
13:21 cgcardona_ maybe assbot has an api for showing the difficulty. i'm not sure
13:21 cgcardona_ !help
13:21 assbot List of commands:
13:21 assbot !ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}
13:21 assbot !last <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l}
13:21 assbot !mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
13:21 assbot !rules <nick/chan> (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r}
13:21 assbot !exchanges <nick/chan> (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e}
13:21 assbot !jd (desc: returns relevant stats from https://just-dice.com)
13:21 assbot !bash <lines> (desc: bashes last <lines> lines to bash) {short: !b}
13:21 assbot !quote <lines> (desc: quotes last <lines> lines and returns dpaste url) {short: !q}
13:21 cgcardona_ hmmm. !ticker
13:21 cgcardona_ !ticker
13:21 assbot The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire.
13:21 cgcardona_ interesting :)
13:22 cgcardona_ maybe I have to pay btc to get access to more than 5 assbot commands per day?
13:22 cgcardona_ ;-]
13:22 thestringpuller ;;estimate
13:22 gribble Next difficulty estimate | 6966233925.09 based on data since last change | 6959577195.63 based on data for last three days
13:22 cgcardona_ ah nice
13:22 punkman you can play with the bots in private too
13:22 cgcardona_ ah yes good point. I don't mean to spam the channel. sorry bout that
13:22 punkman !t h rent
13:22 assbot [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00750000 / 0.0075 / 0.00750000 (838 shares, 6.28500000 BTC), 7D: 0.00610000 / 0.00744584 / 0.00750000 (18267 shares, 136.01321414 BTC), 30D: 0.00510111 / 0.00626078 / 0.00900001 (53882 shares, 337.34351440 BTC)
13:23 MisterE $9 mil ouch http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2337930/windows-xp-thrown-last-minute-lifeline-with-gbp55m-uk-government-deal
13:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 175 @ 0.00088842 = 0.1555 BTC [+] {3}
13:27 punkman found the most delicious sheep's milk today, non-homogenized, 6% fat, and doesn't smell like sheep ass
13:28 MisterE non ass milk++
13:28 punkman I really prefer sheep/goat to cow milk, but can't find any consistent supply
13:28 MisterE make cheese?
13:28 MisterE goat is my fav
13:28 MisterE very cold
13:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.05458399 = 0.2729 BTC [+] {3}
13:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 550 @ 0.00088844 = 0.4886 BTC [+]
13:28 MisterE that goat cheese is the bomb too
13:28 danielpbarron i live down the road from some neighbors who have goats
13:28 punkman I live on an island full of sheep and goats
13:29 MisterE hell they are yummy to eat too
13:29 punkman the cheese is consistently good
13:29 wywialm ;;later tell bitcoinpete I've read your deflation article. Do you believe that 1) prices may be downward rigid? 2) wages may be downward rigid? If yes, what is the impact on these in a substantially deflationary regime?
13:29 gribble The operation succeeded.
13:29 danielpbarron they let me milk one of the goats too
13:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 600 @ 0.00017736 = 0.1064 BTC [+]
13:30 danielpbarron that's in past tense; i don't go back there (they are a false church)
13:30 punkman I should move further away from the city and get my own goat
13:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 13 @ 0.04530615 = 0.589 BTC [-] {5}
13:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.03642999 = 0.1457 BTC [-] {4}
13:32 danielpbarron i want to sell shares to my friends and family to start a garden on my yard (to try out managing profit/loss and paying dividends)
13:33 punkman how much of a garden are you thinking?
13:33 thestringpuller danielpbarron: that's not a bad idea
13:34 danielpbarron something small
13:34 thestringpuller how would you sell the product from the garden?
13:34 thestringpuller what is your distribution channel?
13:34 thestringpuller farmers market?
13:34 punkman they come pick it up
13:34 thestringpuller oh interesting
13:34 thestringpuller people invest in the garden and then get lifetime supply of stuff grown
13:34 thestringpuller BRILLIANT
13:34 danielpbarron i would sell to myself and those who invested
13:35 danielpbarron it's just for practice
13:35 mikaeldice Even the neighbors with the false church?
13:35 danielpbarron no
13:35 danielpbarron heh i literally mean like 3 or 4 individuals
13:35 mikaeldice What about atheists and buddhists?
13:35 danielpbarron including myself
13:36 danielpbarron i've always wanted to grow my own food but i'm never motivated enough to do it
13:36 punkman farming's hard work for most people
13:36 danielpbarron i wouldn't sell to anyone outside as that would attract state attention
13:37 thestringpuller lol punkman http://trilema.com/2014/scam-flavour-of-the-day-bitcoinshopus-aka-hotel-management-systems-inc-tucn/ - has that been discussed yet?
13:37 mikaeldice hum.. My phone powers on the screen to tell me it's low on power. Something's wrong there.
13:39 twizt lol companies cant go public without being in here?
13:40 punkman thestringpuller: it's not worth much discussion, just another scam penny stock, just caught my eye because they changed their ticker to BTCS
13:40 danielpbarron twizt: ya
13:41 danielpbarron twizt: legic companies can't
13:41 twizt sounds like a weird barrier
13:41 twizt so ebay cant accept bitcoins anymore? needs a wot acct/
13:41 punkman incidentally, I was searching for "BTCS" because some scamchange lost 50,000 "BTCS", and BTCS turns out to be BTC-sCrypt
13:42 twizt lol
13:42 danielpbarron legit* what sounds weird is investing in a stranger who took no time to familiarize himself with the community that has built the Bitcoin economy
13:42 twizt where do i sign up to be ebays fulltime #bitcoin-assets rep?
13:42 twizt im in here all the time, might as well get paid
13:42 punkman twizt, you work at ebay?
13:43 danielpbarron eBay doesn't need to WoT because they are already trusted
13:43 twizt nah but if they wanna pay me 90k to idle here
13:43 twizt i will
13:43 danielpbarron you aren't eBay
13:44 twizt so what happens when a wot business becomes a scam?
13:44 twizt do people bitch less or more?
13:44 danielpbarron "becomes?"
13:44 punkman the wot doesn't make decisions for you
13:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 77 @ 0.08299776 = 6.3908 BTC [-] {3}
13:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 750 @ 0.00014798 = 0.111 BTC [-] {2}
13:45 twizt becomes = > ie really ends up being a scam
13:45 danielpbarron right, as in, it was always a scam
13:45 thestringpuller twizt: this happens: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=aethero
13:46 thestringpuller sort by rating
13:46 twizt whats stops that guy from coming back thestringpuller
13:46 thestringpuller he can never use that handle again
13:46 thestringpuller or that gpg key
13:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1000 @ 0.00014994 = 0.1499 BTC [+] {6}
13:46 danielpbarron there is a demand for scammers and individuals like that simply supply it
13:47 thestringpuller he could start anew, turning over a new leaf
13:47 thestringpuller but then what happens when we find out the new person is actually an old known scammer?
13:47 twizt and how is being unable to use handle or gpg key preventing anything?
13:47 thestringpuller because trust is everything
13:47 danielpbarron twizt: do you trust anybody?
13:47 thestringpuller 3 years of building trust takes forever
13:48 twizt well if they are taking 500+ bitcoins everytime
13:48 twizt better than minimum wage job right?
13:48 danielpbarron heh, unless my math is wrong here.. i think it would take exactly 3 years, thestringpuller
13:49 danielpbarron twizt: if you can pull then off then by all means, do it
13:49 danielpbarron that* ugh
13:49 thestringpuller scamming isn't really a good business model
13:49 twizt nah i dont have the patience to be a sociopath
13:50 danielpbarron if you think 500 BTC is a lot....
13:50 thestringpuller some people are willing to tarnish their WoT reputation, but that makes the non scammers that much more trustworthy
13:50 twizt losing my trust is not worth 500+ bitcoins
13:50 kakobrekla twbt wot is a tool, like a map, it wont do the job by itself, you have to know how to read it, then it helps.
13:50 kakobrekla twizt
13:50 thestringpuller twizt: exactly
13:51 twizt i think u misread
13:51 twizt who cares how long someone has trust
13:51 twizt if that 1 time they fuck up after 3 years
13:52 danielpbarron all the trust in the world doesn't make up for woefully incompetent business plans, which describes almost all Bitcoin scams
13:52 twizt my bet would be against the most 'trustworthy'
13:52 twizt ttfu
13:52 twizt time till fuck up
13:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 7 @ 0.08295533 = 0.5807 BTC [+] {3}
13:53 punkman that's why you don't invest in people that are trying to pump&dump reputation at BTCJam
13:53 danielpbarron there are escrows and hedges and bla bla; yeah someone can have a change of heart and run with the money, but if you planned correctly there should be contingency plans
13:54 twizt if wot had peoples names and addresses
13:54 twizt secued
13:54 twizt and only doxed on fuck up
13:54 twizt then maybe i see y wot would be great
13:54 twizt secured*
13:54 danielpbarron because those things can't be forged..
13:54 kakobrekla you are delirious
13:55 kakobrekla http://dcm6srpdb0rbc.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Guz8r.png
13:55 kakobrekla go get him tiger.
13:55 twizt yea but we cant have that now right, cuz people gotta stay anon lol
13:55 twizt sorry for delirium8
13:55 * danielpbarron slaps twizt
13:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0075 = 0.375 BTC [+]
13:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3265 @ 0.00014999 = 0.4897 BTC [-] {3}
13:56 kakobrekla btw twizt many people in the wot dont hide their identities, including me.
13:56 Namworld That's not too far from me on my IDs. When I had long hair that is.
13:56 twizt thats good kakobrekla
13:56 danielpbarron or me (nick is real name)
13:56 Namworld I now cut my hair short.
13:56 thestringpuller alberto?
13:56 thestringpuller the btc day trade guy?
13:56 thestringpuller @ kakobrekla
13:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1308 @ 0.00015 = 0.1962 BTC [+] {3}
13:57 kakobrekla labcoin, bitdaytrade, btcrebate ,... you name it
13:57 kakobrekla also iirc kronos.io
13:57 kakobrekla and two non btc scams before that
13:57 kakobrekla at least.
13:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3692 @ 0.00015 = 0.5538 BTC [+]
13:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.0858 = 0.1716 BTC [+]
13:58 Apocalyptic guy seems to have a nice track record
13:58 thestringpuller damn son
13:58 danielpbarron heh, dr. whatshisface negged kakobrekla; that's a positive in my book
13:58 kakobrekla ah, dr foreskin
13:59 danielpbarron lol
13:59 Apocalyptic ;;gettrust kakobrekla
13:59 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user Apocalyptic to user kakobrekla: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 8 via 5 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=Apocalyptic&dest=kakobrekla | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=kakobrekla | Rated since: Fri May 13 18:50:53 2011
13:59 danielpbarron reading that guy's bio is a riot
13:59 kakobrekla hehe
13:59 Apocalyptic nice profile kako, not one neg
14:00 kakobrekla heh
14:00 Apocalyptic even Usagi rated you +3
14:01 kakobrekla well, i had a short contract with him very early on. he paid ok.
14:02 kakobrekla but iirc i removed the rating to him later on
14:02 kakobrekla when thingy got fucked.
14:02 kakobrekla things*
14:03 kakobrekla but yeah, he lost, had to swallow a big loss and he did.
14:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.08299776 = 0.166 BTC [-]
14:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.04806131 = 1.9225 BTC [-] {6}
14:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0347 = 0.1388 BTC [-]
14:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.05 = 0.2 BTC [+]
14:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0347 = 0.1388 BTC [-]
14:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 115 @ 0.0008884 = 0.1022 BTC [-]
14:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 300 @ 0.00035241 = 0.1057 BTC [+]
14:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.05479908 = 0.2192 BTC [+]
14:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.08299776 = 0.415 BTC [-]
14:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 6 @ 0.08299776 = 0.498 BTC [-] {2}
14:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2846 @ 0.00097242 = 2.7675 BTC [+]
14:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 980 @ 0.00017733 = 0.1738 BTC [+]
14:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2000 @ 0.00015 = 0.3 BTC [+]
14:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.58018111 = 2.9009 BTC [-] {5}
14:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00097591 = 12.1989 BTC [+]
14:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 60 @ 0.0075 = 0.45 BTC [+]
14:47 MisterE wow, http://imgur.com/gallery/fOiLd
14:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7573 @ 0.00097591 = 7.3906 BTC [+]
14:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.05479902 = 0.1644 BTC [-] {2}
14:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0348 = 0.1044 BTC [+] {2}
14:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 901 @ 0.00015 = 0.1352 BTC [+]
14:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0075 = 0.375 BTC [+]
15:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00097092 = 11.5539 BTC [-]
15:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.08299776 = 0.166 BTC [-]
15:23 Mats_cd03 If i bought s.mpoe this month would i see dividends in the following period considering the outsized payment in march
15:24 jurov Mats_cd03: did you actually read the reports?
15:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 51 @ 0.00553528 = 0.2823 BTC [-] {3}
15:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.00550358 = 0.1926 BTC [-] {3}
15:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58010001 BTC [-]
15:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.08299776 = 0.415 BTC [-] {2}
15:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1000 @ 0.0001978 = 0.1978 BTC [+]
15:47 Mats_cd03 yes
15:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 6010 @ 0.00019833 = 1.192 BTC [+] {3}
15:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.04998438 = 0.5998 BTC [+] {2}
15:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2000 @ 0.00019999 = 0.4 BTC [+] {2}
15:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 4000 @ 0.00019999 = 0.8 BTC [+] {2}
15:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3000 @ 0.00019999 = 0.6 BTC [+]
15:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00096878 = 2.422 BTC [-]
15:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 15 @ 0.0075 = 0.1125 BTC [+]
15:58 jurov Mats_cd03: so why did you think s.mpoe is going to stop paying divs?
16:00 Mats_cd03 i read something in here suggesting that was the case
16:06 jurov that would be properly announced on trilema and amply discussed
16:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 3807 @ 0.0000792 = 0.3015 BTC [-]
16:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.01160999 = 0.1277 BTC [-] {2}
16:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 76 @ 0.00146083 = 0.111 BTC [-] {2}
16:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 100 @ 0.0075 = 0.75 BTC [+]
~ 20 minutes ~
16:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0499844 = 0.2499 BTC [+]
16:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1330 @ 0.00019998 = 0.266 BTC [+] {2}
17:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10229 @ 0.00096334 = 9.854 BTC [-] {2}
17:22 nubbins` http://imgur.com/EQcLPHH
17:22 nubbins` and
17:22 ozbot imgur: the simple image sharer
17:22 thestringpuller damn
17:22 nubbins` http://imgur.com/IQ5blcV
17:22 ozbot imgur: the simple image sharer
17:23 nubbins` that's pretty much my past 24 hours right there
17:23 nubbins` now, a quick power nap before the album release show where all this shit is being sold
17:25 thestringpuller it should all be burned
17:25 thestringpuller like an effigy!
17:25 thestringpuller BURN IT TO THE GROUND
17:25 thestringpuller ;;calc 100/483
17:25 gribble 0.207039337474
17:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 5250 @ 0.00019998 = 1.0499 BTC [+] {3}
17:29 truffles take off the blue animal thing improves that one
17:29 truffles burn the others
17:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.03529999 = 0.1059 BTC [+]
~ 31 minutes ~
18:04 * nubbins` carefully writes down comments and buries them in a small hole in the backyard
18:04 nubbins` THANKS FOR THE INPUT GUISE
18:04 truffles burn it with the other stuff
18:05 truffles it looks like clutter though, just trying to help out
18:07 nubbins` noted. it looks the way it looks on purpose :D
18:07 truffles i c that
18:07 nubbins` fun fact, the blue is actually the original
18:07 truffles id like em better as 2 separate works
18:09 truffles u save on ink too :D
18:12 jurov seems truffles needs dick surgery
18:13 nubbins` ^
18:13 truffles why does it need to be shredded
18:16 nubbins` coffee-beer-smokables-music
18:16 nubbins` peace
18:16 benkay ;;later tell nubbins` sounds like a great day
18:16 gribble The operation succeeded.
18:25 benkay i'll just squeeze this beer: http://pitchlandia.com/faq/
18:25 benkay "20 startups make their pitch. The crowd makes its choices. The top 10 startups receive equal funding."
~ 29 minutes ~
18:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 23 @ 0.04998894 = 1.1497 BTC [+] {2}
18:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 23 @ 0.03473478 = 0.7989 BTC [-] {2}
~ 29 minutes ~
19:24 benkay 22 years old, significant fraction of btc on deposit at bitstamp, engineer at facebook, can't diddle his dollas: http://rasmuzen.com/bitstamp
19:26 kakobrekla theres several issues here
19:27 kakobrekla idiot customers and idiot service provider
19:27 kakobrekla the result, well, there it is.
19:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 141 @ 0.00344001 = 0.485 BTC [-]
19:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 138 @ 0.00342792 = 0.4731 BTC [-] {5}
19:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.05 = 1.5 BTC [+]
~ 38 minutes ~
20:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00096753 = 10.3042 BTC [+]
20:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.00096753 = 8.1756 BTC [+]
20:29 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
20:29 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 460.96, Best ask: 463.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.04000, Last trade: 463.0, 24 hour volume: 6528.94404985, 24 hour low: 441.25, 24 hour high: 465.0, 24 hour vwap: 452.917999845
20:30 mircea_popescu s.mg report incoming with apologies for teh delay
20:30 mircea_popescu apparently scheduled posts dun work for some reason.
20:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 569 @ 0.00017901 = 0.1019 BTC [-]
20:41 asciilifeform http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-05/abn-amro-ex-ceo-found-dead
20:41 ozbot ABN Amro Ex-CEO Found Dead | Zero Hedge
20:41 mircea_popescu jurov you know, enforcing boundaries has little to do with despising. a man may plow with six oxen, and may not sleep with oxen in his bed.
20:42 mircea_popescu doesn't mean he despises the beasts nao.
20:42 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the bodies getting bigger...
20:42 asciilifeform this promises to end like that folk tale - the executioner is ordered to chop his own head.
20:43 mircea_popescu last banker up turn off the lights.
20:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 34 @ 0.08299776 = 2.8219 BTC [-] {3}
20:48 mircea_popescu from the fucktarded "advertisments" on zero hedge :
20:48 mircea_popescu "A Long Time Product Tester Revels the Secrets to Getting FREE Products"
20:51 kakobrekla by being a whore. nuttin new.
20:51 mircea_popescu revels/reveals is the butt :D
20:51 kakobrekla ah i only skimmed
20:51 kakobrekla nondiLigently.
20:52 mircea_popescu lol
20:56 mircea_popescu kakobrekla just for that i pulled up the only twelve or so pages where i had misspelled it and FIXED IT
20:56 mircea_popescu so now you got NOTHING
20:56 mircea_popescu HA!
20:57 kakobrekla :D
20:59 kakobrekla btw that template you sent me last time still had it fyi.
21:00 mircea_popescu omfg haters gonna haet
21:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58012171 BTC [+]
21:01 kakobrekla lolk, ill stop
21:01 bounce hatters gonna hat
21:01 mircea_popescu i think ima just negrate the dictionary till they fix it my way.
21:01 kakobrekla heheh
21:01 mircea_popescu i'm not eeven the only oine btw, for some reason dill is fucking popular with finance people.
21:02 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/arsdigita-greenspun.html < grep
21:02 ozbot ArsDigita: From Start-Up to Bust-Up
21:03 kakobrekla yeah dunno whats up with that, havent seen pornstars go googling for 'dilldo'
21:04 mircea_popescu it's from all the pickles.
21:05 mircea_popescu so who's this cgcardona fellow
21:06 kakobrekla ?
21:06 mircea_popescu i dunno, some hawaiian from teh logs.
21:07 mircea_popescu kakobrekla: congrats are in order. << ty.
21:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00096313 = 3.4191 BTC [-]
21:08 kakobrekla dont tell me you talked to doog ? :D
21:08 mircea_popescu this was about nefario.
21:08 kakobrekla yea but doog stopped coding it
21:08 mircea_popescu danielpbarron:
21:08 mircea_popescu his is a clever system, you aren't paying to read the article forever; you're paying for the request to the server (which might happen multiple times per article if you keep going back to re-read) << actuallyt, you can reload the article x times and it won't cut further credits.
21:08 kakobrekla thats why everything is on halt
21:08 kakobrekla afaik
21:08 mircea_popescu heh.
21:10 mircea_popescu pankkake: I wouldn't have an issue with a global paywall. if I have to register to every website, fuck it << this man hates freedom!
21:10 pankkake I regreted what I wrote but - I mean an easy to use service to pay by the page
21:10 mircea_popescu holy hell 20% ? we're at 6bn ?!
21:11 mircea_popescu pankkake in a mid to long term perspective i suspect the trilema system may actually work
21:11 mircea_popescu as more worthwhile sites implement it eventually you'd prolly have a centralizer site, select all you want from there
21:12 mircea_popescu then it micropays for you as needed
21:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00096492 = 1.5439 BTC [+]
21:12 mircea_popescu ,d
21:12 mircea_popescu .d
21:12 ozbot 6.120 billion | Next Diff in 1926 blocks | Estimated Change: 7.3495% in 12d 8h 35m 10s
21:12 mircea_popescu insane.
21:13 mircea_popescu Crown Commercial Service (CCS) - a new cabinet office department that handles public sector purcasing and commercial operations - said in a statement, "By combining demand, on behalf of Central Government departments and the wider public sector, Crown Commercial Service has demonstrated the benefits of government working as a single customer to achieve best value for the taxpayer, whilst continuing to build good worki
21:13 mircea_popescu ng relationships with our technology suppliers."
21:14 mircea_popescu this is what the uk comissariat imagines buying more xp means.
21:14 mircea_popescu my mind's well boggled.
21:15 mircea_popescu punkman: farming's hard work for most people << not harder than a good workout at the gym. except instead of paying for membership, you get paid.
21:15 mircea_popescu twizt: lol companies cant go public without being in here? < not successfuly, no.
21:16 mircea_popescu and you know, talk to them bout repping, why not.
21:17 mike_c i was a big admirer of philip greenspun. i attended one of arsdigita's classes in boston. reading that article makes me sick.
21:18 mircea_popescu mike_c he sounds quite admirable, especially when he's doing the narration. third parties... well more of a mixed bag.
21:19 mircea_popescu kakobrekla ahh that bitdaytrade thing was epic.
21:19 mircea_popescu possibly my favourite incompetence story in the history of btc. that and the early polish dudes.
21:21 kakobrekla i dont think i ever saw code as bad as that btw
21:21 mircea_popescu Mats_cd03 were you thinking of the bitbet overpay last month ?
21:22 kakobrekla the amt of coin aa managed to fuck up is amazing
21:22 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
21:22 mircea_popescu kakobrekla dude are you kidding me ? mysql/php exchange, with mysql_insert(straight-get-reference)
21:22 mircea_popescu it was beyond the believable, it literally said, "take the string from the url and put it in the db as is"
21:24 joecool sounds legit
21:24 mircea_popescu just absolutely incredible, i mean people may occasionally get the idea that their car doesn't need gasoline to run, not really. so they run it on whatever, toluene
21:24 mircea_popescu hair spray, moonshine
21:24 mircea_popescu but to actually try to use a mixture of sugar and quick setting cement as fuel ?!
21:24 joecool i dunno, i used grease once and it worked ok
21:25 mircea_popescu was it made by john deere ?
21:26 joecool people said it sounded like it was, VW made it
21:26 mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/6fRBitc.jpg this looks pretty workable.
21:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 15 @ 0.034634 = 0.5195 BTC [-] {2}
21:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00096421 = 8.8707 BTC [-]
21:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1000 @ 0.00019997 = 0.2 BTC [+] {3}
21:41 MisterE sounds like CCS was set up just to offload the blame for that retarded $9mil USD XP support contract.
21:43 mircea_popescu possible.
21:43 mircea_popescu not the first time the 51st state is used for a sort of current day new jersey
21:47 joecool dirty jerz
21:48 mircea_popescu "Let's not succumb to this collectivist Eastern Europe sucks mentality. Eastern Europe is not the issue here. Best Bitcoin exchange Bitstamp is operated from Slovenia and second best, BTC-e is run from Bulgaria."
21:49 mircea_popescu see kakobrekla ? eastern europe is not the issue here.
21:50 kakobrekla heh
21:51 mircea_popescu The committee also criticises the Daily Mail and The Daily Telegraphfor placing “heavy reliance . . . on the ability of their readers to distinguish between fact and opinion on climate science”.
21:52 mircea_popescu it's kinda funny that just as bitcoin organises one end of the spectrum towards individualism,
21:52 mircea_popescu teh state is getting increasingly more collectivist too.
21:52 mircea_popescu i guess to no-one's surprise.
22:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1100 @ 0.00096449 = 1.0609 BTC [+]
22:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 842 @ 0.00018125 = 0.1526 BTC [-] {2}
22:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.03461 = 0.2769 BTC [-]
22:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.05110001 = 0.5621 BTC [+] {2}
22:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1500 @ 0.00019998 = 0.3 BTC [+] {2}
22:20 cryptolemming Evening / morning, Mircea mind if I ask what became of the SEC situation, did they simply leave it be or leave it with some element of threat to return? was an interesting situation.
22:20 cazalla omg those romanians.. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/video-granny-spinning-gang-target-3377078
22:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6108 @ 0.00096444 = 5.8908 BTC [-] {2}
22:25 mircea_popescu cryptolemming nothing really.
22:26 mircea_popescu it wouldn't be political to issue threats in any case. i guess they didn't get what they wanted and are considering their options.
22:28 cryptolemming can't help but assume the attention will begin to trickle down to entities such as just-dice, don't know enough to know if they'd even really care about something so relatively small.
22:30 mircea_popescu tbh, it'd seem the vast majority of the internet population is sorely legally illiterate and otherwise quite psychotic.
22:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05010663 = 0.5011 BTC [-] {4}
22:33 mircea_popescu sec is just trying to find its place in this new world, it's just common sense they'd come to talk to me about it.
22:33 mircea_popescu i have no idea what all the panic is all about.
22:33 cryptolemming panic?
22:34 mircea_popescu well yes.
22:34 cryptolemming it does make sense they'd talk to you about it yeah
22:35 cryptolemming haven't noticed much panic, although haven't spent much time here either, everything seems fine otherwise
22:35 mircea_popescu "with some element of threat" ; " the attention will begin to trickle down", to not even go into teh forum reddit etc.
22:36 mircea_popescu you'd think fort sumter was fired on last week.
22:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.04871969 = 0.9257 BTC [-] {5}
22:36 cryptolemming really, guess the wording was a bit strong
22:37 mircea_popescu but anyway!
22:37 chetty just a lot of nuts out to pump the drama
22:38 cryptolemming seems like a lot of artifical extensions are being made from a couple slightly although subjectively perceived over-dramatic words
22:38 cryptolemming curious about sec, was an interesting situation, curious about jd, launching something similar soon from a not-so-friendly jurisdiction, it's just chatter
22:39 cryptolemming i don't think there's anything to worry about
22:40 cryptolemming can explore topics neutrally, nm though sure
22:40 mircea_popescu what's jd launching ?
22:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.05349988 = 0.8025 BTC [+] {2}
22:41 cryptolemming nothing afaik, I'm launching something similar, these topics are thus more interesting atm
22:42 cryptolemming not really all that interesting though, so nm
22:45 mircea_popescu you're launching something similar to what, jd ?
22:46 cryptolemming in the sense that we are allowing bankrollers yes, and offering a game of chance
22:47 mircea_popescu aha
22:48 kakobrekla ;;later tell mike_c http://bit4x.com/panacea/history/
22:48 gribble The operation succeeded.
22:48 mike_c awesome!
22:49 kakobrekla also spam has found your blog again :>
22:49 mike_c at least someone is commenting.
22:49 kakobrekla :D
22:50 kakobrekla anyway the last parameter there will tell you the relative size of the trade
22:55 BCB http://puu.sh/7XF8m.jpg
22:57 kakobrekla basically it tells you the effective leverage for the trade
23:03 cryptolemming aha?
23:07 ThickAsThieves my post on "Narcotic Checkpoints" is now the hottest thing in the Facebook community page
23:07 ThickAsThieves moderators are asking if i can move it to a "rants" area now that it has 150 posts and is dominating the feed
23:08 ThickAsThieves "I'm no longer commenting on the dumbest topic I've heard in my life! This is ignorant! One day you will need the police for something and I hope they are not there to help you! You don't deserve the kindness that they put out in the community everyday! Go to court, hire a lawyer do whatever you want but plez post what happens when they laugh you out of there!"
23:08 ThickAsThieves upon inspection of her page, there is a baby photo, wearin a Sheriff badge
23:09 ThickAsThieves i'll probably be harassed anywhere i go now...
23:09 iamnot_ facebook community page?
23:09 ThickAsThieves yeah we have a group thingie in facebook
23:09 ThickAsThieves that the community uses
23:09 ThickAsThieves mostly to ask fro plumber recommendations n shit
23:10 iamnot_ lol
23:11 ThickAsThieves i replied "I do appreciate officers and their service. The law is an ever-evolving thing, with precedents and incidents defining its meaning constantly. I'm not calling them evil, but I am saying that NCs might be out of bounds. Your malice towards me is unfortunate, as no matter how much I we disagree, I do hope someone is there to help you anytime you may need it."
23:12 ThickAsThieves to which she says (remember she's done commenting!) "I'm sure they will definitely be there to help me! Unfortunately they can't pick and choose who they help....I'm sure you would be on the NO help list!"
23:12 ThickAsThieves admittedly this hostility came after I linked her to https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCoQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wikihow.com%2FUse-There%2C-Their-and-They%27re&ei=E8ZAU76RAY-wsAT4hYHYAw&usg=AFQjCNFUDz_wqUzyiVCDFekwBoaqO20NWQ&sig2=0XULb0AYQMcseS7VzgO9Rg&bvm=bv.64125504,d.cWc
23:12 ThickAsThieves oops,
23:12 ThickAsThieves http://www.wikihow.com/Use-There,-Their-and-They're
23:12 ozbot How to Use There, Their and They're (with Examples) - wikiHow
23:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.03793947 = 0.2656 BTC [+] {3}
23:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0474 = 0.237 BTC [-]
23:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.05250018 = 0.5775 BTC [-] {2}
23:26 mike_c kakobrekla: ah, cool about the leverage. is there a delay on it?
23:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 26 @ 0.05315774 = 1.3821 BTC [+] {3}
23:28 kakobrekla theres a few things i must finish to make it completely automagic, after that trades will show as soon as they are closed (refreshed every 10 min or so)
23:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.05339999 = 0.6408 BTC [+] {2}
23:28 mike_c nice
23:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.05367749 = 0.3221 BTC [+] {2}
23:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 4969 @ 0.0001809 = 0.8989 BTC [-] {10}
23:32 moiety mew
23:32 moiety http://rt.com/news/pakistan-baby-attempted-murder-577/
23:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23100 @ 0.00096421 = 22.2733 BTC [-]
23:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.60699998 BTC [+]
23:40 mircea_popescu poor tat, causing trouble wherever he goes because he's a mp sock
23:42 MisterE http://42coin.org/news/peercover-features-42coin-exchange/
23:42 ozbot Peercover features 42Coin Exchange | 42 Coin – Official News
23:43 mircea_popescu "Have you ever wanted to trade your Crypto Currencies against GOLD, SILVER, Platinum? Now you can"
23:43 moiety mircea_popescu: anyone having their own opinion tends to be sock-accused in my experience
23:43 chetty ThickAsThieves, a usual case of worship 'authority', never question
23:43 mircea_popescu yeah totally. couldn't before, since about 2011
23:43 kakobrekla everyone is the first and the biggest.
23:44 mircea_popescu i guess "the first and biggest" sounds better than "the derpiest and cluelessest"
23:44 * kakobrekla googles
23:44 kakobrekla it does.
23:44 MisterE or the "world's premiere site for foo"
23:44 kakobrekla haha
23:44 mircea_popescu i think that's premier
23:44 kakobrekla premiere tumbleweed.
23:44 kakobrekla whatevers
23:44 mircea_popescu actually it's "whatever"
23:45 kakobrekla ....
23:45 kakobrekla actually its "..."
23:45 MisterE I spel American
23:45 kakobrekla i scam somali
23:45 kakobrekla s/scam/spell
23:45 MisterE lol
23:45 chetty kakobrekla, same thing
23:45 mircea_popescu vragnaroda, whom only the eldest perhaps still remember, was famously accused by some derp of "being a grammer naxi that corecteing people 24/7"
23:46 kakobrekla :p
23:46 moiety ;; later tell BingoBoingo i get now it was a joke, i didn't before.
23:46 gribble The operation succeeded.
23:46 moiety does later tell work in gribble pms?
23:46 mircea_popescu http://42coin.org/news/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/gold_bars.jpg
23:46 mircea_popescu i like how the gold bars get etching and shit
23:46 mircea_popescu http://42coin.org/news/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/sell_silver.jpeg
23:46 mircea_popescu but the silver ain't cool enough for school.
23:50 kakobrekla btw where did vrag go
23:50 kakobrekla he produced a lot of lines.
23:51 kakobrekla if my memory serves me right.
23:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 776 @ 0.00096492 = 0.7488 BTC [+]
23:52 decimation pat buchanan has some good posts on Taki's mag: http://takimag.com/article/is_putin_one_of_us_patrick_buchanan
23:52 kakobrekla read it "taaki mag" and almost had a heart attack.
23:53 decimation lol
23:53 tg2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb8r0iIb82s
23:53 ozbot 42-COIN BIG BIG BIG Extreme info alert for cryptocoin buyers. - YouTube
23:53 mircea_popescu who knows
23:53 tg2 lol
23:53 tg2 mircea_popescu, you better watch that and get you some good crypto advice
23:53 decimation fred reed is good too: http://takimag.com/article/the_soul_of_a_curmudgeon_fred_reed
23:53 mircea_popescu decimation you mean taki of the spectator ?
23:54 mircea_popescu tg2 transcript ?
23:54 MisterE break it down for us tg2
23:54 jborkl Lol they are selling kilo bars?
23:54 mircea_popescu http://www.spectator.co.uk/life/high-life/6525763/high-life-11/ this taki ?
23:54 ozbot High life » The Spectator
23:54 MisterE wtf? 2.2lbs?
23:54 mircea_popescu jborkl yeah. two thirds of a bar gets you all of ripple.
23:54 jborkl Lol
23:54 MisterE :D
23:55 decimation yeah the same guy
23:55 decimation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taki_Theodoracopulos
23:55 ozbot Taki Theodoracopulos - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
23:55 jborkl Just don't assey them
23:55 jborkl Sp
23:56 MisterE I dunno why it looks like lead underneath, it says right on the bar 99.9% fine
23:56 mircea_popescu cool.
23:56 jborkl Solig tungsten core
23:56 MisterE tungsten heavy like that?
23:56 jborkl It is the same density as gold
23:57 jborkl Almost exactly
23:57 MisterE oh wow
23:57 mircea_popescu decimation that wikipedia article is perhaps the best indictment of the "wikipedia" notion of an encyclopedia one could devise.
23:57 mircea_popescu seriously, that's all they have to say about taki, that he called some simian looking jew "homely" and that fascists taking over greece'd be an improvement over the current sort of socialists ?
23:58 mircea_popescu with culture like this illiteracy seems an impossibility.
23:58 decimation well, the wikipedia is the lowest common denominator of american thinking
23:58 tg2 lol transcript: dude is retarded. I watch that video when I want to feel better about my crypto portfolio.
23:58 decimation so it's pretty much facebook socialism
23:59 decimation fred reed money quote: "My wife Violeta, a Mexican, describes the United States as a Third World country with a First World infrastructure (un pais tercermundista con infraestructura primermundista)"
23:59 mircea_popescu not anymore.
23:59 decimation yeah the infrastructure is getting very spotty
23:59 mircea_popescu it shocked me what poor state of repair the infrastructure was
23:59 mircea_popescu and this was a decade ago.
23:59 jborkl Taki s haircut makes bitcoin drop 10% in value
23:59 MisterE bridges falling apart it's amazing
23:59 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
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