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00:38 BingoBoingo ;;later tell moiety wallpaper sided version of your manul wallpaper http://hdwallpapersyouneed.com/wallpaper/cats_wildcat_manul_desktop_1600x1067_hd-wallpaper-1009019.jpg
00:38 gribble The operation succeeded.
00:39 BingoBoingo Also http://www.wallpaperstop.co/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Manul-Face-Handsome-Cute-Fluffy.jpg
00:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.01325011 = 0.1325 BTC [-]
00:46 MisterE ante
00:47 BingoBoingo ?
00:47 MisterE how you gonna get work and rated if you dont idle...
00:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37700 @ 0.00096082 = 36.2229 BTC [+]
00:47 BingoBoingo Right now my big concern is not getting tornadoes
00:48 MisterE ;; later tell antephialtic I'm looking for someone to take a site idea from napkin to prototype, contact me especially if you have SE/ranking experiences
00:48 gribble The operation succeeded.
00:48 MisterE heh even with crap syntax
00:49 MisterE BingoBoingo: you in the alley?
00:49 BingoBoingo MisterE: Near St Louis
00:49 MisterE ahh yea
00:49 MisterE shit gets reak there sometimes
00:49 MisterE real*
00:49 BingoBoingo Two big hits in the area the last 24 hours
00:49 BingoBoingo Beither went this far east yet
00:50 MisterE I have a friend in KC
00:50 MisterE thats where the L&C arch is right?
00:50 MisterE and it has a sister city?
00:50 MisterE across the river?
00:50 MisterE I been gone so long forgot geography of home
00:51 BingoBoingo Well it has the arch
00:51 BingoBoingo More the Jefferson expansion than anything else
00:52 BingoBoingo East St Louis is a place too
00:52 BingoBoingo East StL isn't so bad compared to North Saint
00:53 BingoBoingo KC's got good BBQ
00:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26000 @ 0.00096082 = 24.9813 BTC [+]
00:56 nubbins` hey kids
00:57 BingoBoingo The way this winter's been with the Jetstream acting up I wouldn't be too surprised if we got a derechero
00:57 BingoBoingo hey nubbins`
00:57 nubbins` it's time for Ineffectual Poster Critique, where you offer constructive criticism on a poster i've designed and i ignore your suggestions because it's late and i'm tired
00:57 nubbins` http://imgur.com/QhwZzWF
00:57 ozbot imgur: the simple image sharer
00:59 BingoBoingo Needs moar cunt
01:01 BingoBoingo nubbins`: Also a heavier weight paper couldn't hurt
01:01 nubbins` heh
01:02 nubbins` NO DICE
01:02 nubbins` 50lb red kraft paper
01:02 nubbins` and that's that!
01:02 BingoBoingo nubbins`: WHat about 1/8" Z-weighted sheilding material
01:02 nubbins` we do a lotta work for these guys... they got in touch TODAY asking if we could do 40 shirts and 30 posters for sat night
01:02 nubbins` nothin' like a rush job
01:03 nubbins` y'know, i've toyed with the idea of doing posters on tyvek
01:03 BingoBoingo Ah
01:03 nubbins` i think you'd need special inks tho
01:03 BingoBoingo tyvek is some nice stuff
01:03 nubbins` yep, uline sells rolls of it
01:03 nubbins` anyway i gotta get these films printed and burn some screens
01:04 BingoBoingo I think if I did a junkyard wars laptop of my own, tyvek would be the wrap of choice
01:04 BingoBoingo nubbins`: Design wise though, maybe distrubute some accident looking dots of Dutch FIreball
01:05 nubbins` ehhhhhhh, i'm not huge on the "messy" aesthetic
01:05 BingoBoingo I hear that color really pops for the red-green colorblind crowd
01:05 nubbins` too many screenprinters use it as a crutch to disguise poor technique
01:06 BingoBoingo Sure
01:06 BingoBoingo It is like magic fucking ponzi dust to colorblind people though
01:06 nubbins` i much prefer to torture myself trying to produce perfect floods. even the noise on the yellow is a bit out of character for me
01:06 nubbins` oh ya?
01:07 BingoBoingo Yeah.
01:09 BingoBoingo I think it looks like an off orangy red, but...
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01:33 BingoBoingo ;;later tell benkay notes to compare
01:33 gribble The operation succeeded.
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01:37 BingoBoingo Such comments http://gawker.com/driver-accidentally-hits-child-is-brutally-attacked-by-1558033557
01:40 chetty total breakdown of civilization is not far away
01:41 BingoBoingo Are you sure it hasn't happened some places?
01:43 chetty nope, I am sure it has - its just spreading
01:43 nubbins` BingoBoingo: here's what the drawing is loosely based on: http://imgur.com/ZSS1Eps
01:44 cazalla niggers, what else would you expect?
01:44 BingoBoingo nubbins`: Nice
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01:44 BingoBoingo cazalla: Honestly hard to tell at this point
01:45 cazalla No, it's confirmed
01:45 cazalla driver was white too, what idiot white guy still lives in detroit
01:46 BingoBoingo Well being black doesn't make anyone a nigger more than being white keeps anyone from being a nigger.
01:46 BingoBoingo Eminen could have been driving through the neighborhood where all of the brain surgeons live
01:47 cazalla i guess that explains why these mob attackers are always black
01:47 nubbins` shrug, we had daily swarmings at my high school. all white kids
01:47 BingoBoingo Oh, just now most of them are black
01:48 BingoBoingo white mobs happen, spic mobs happen, wop mobs happen
01:48 cazalla whens the last time a bunch of white people put a black person into a coma because he bumped a white kid who was too stupid not to play in traffic
01:49 nubbins` i don't have the stats in front of me, but probably like a week ago
01:50 BingoBoingo cazalla: I will decline to comment
01:50 cazalla nubbins` you would know then that black on white crime is much larger than white on black
01:50 cazalla BingoBoingo: and here is proof it was race related http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/04/03/driver-assaulted-by-crowd-after-hitting-boy-clings-to-life/7285575/
01:51 BingoBoingo When's the last time someone who wasn't a Abbo went on a crime spree in Australasia
01:51 BingoBoingo Fuel by gas fumes
01:51 cazalla not near the % of any other demographic
01:51 nubbins` you americans are so angry
01:52 cazalla i'm not even american
01:52 chetty meh its not skin color, its culture (or lack thereof)
01:52 nubbins` what!
01:52 cazalla it's genetic
01:52 BingoBoingo nubbins`: cazalla is an aussie
01:52 nubbins` ahhhhh
01:52 BingoBoingo cazalla: nubbins` is a Canadian
01:52 nubbins` we share a queen
01:53 cazalla bend the knee
01:53 BingoBoingo As a 'Murican I feel much safer on trips to East Saint Louis than I do to either North St Louis or Gretchen Wilson's hometown of Pocahontas Illinois
01:53 cazalla i don't know why she permitted all this immigration throughout the commonwealth
01:53 cazalla but even as someone who has never been to detroit, i know you don't get out the car if you run a youth down
01:54 nubbins` because she's a figurehead with no real authority? ;(
01:55 BingoBoingo cazalla: More important is why you just don't go to Detroit
01:56 cazalla Poor prick did the right thing and now he'll probably die
01:56 BingoBoingo Sure for a brief time in history being in Detroit may have been excusable as they presented industry as a surrogate for culture.
01:57 BingoBoingo Now, without industry the lack of culture is the defining feature of the area
01:57 cazalla I don't think it has anything to do with culture but more so a genetic basis for their lack of culture and chimpish behaviour
01:58 chetty cazalla, like the forum?
02:00 BingoBoingo The forum is kind of self selecting.
02:00 cazalla a lot of em are young, they'll grow out of it
02:00 cazalla majority of blacks however will not
02:01 cazalla i wasn't even that far right until the leftist idiots kept pushing this white privilege bullshit
02:02 cazalla anyway, wrong crowd here for me to be inflammatory towards, nothing to gain in doing so
02:04 BingoBoingo It isn't a problem of white priviledge or black degeneracy. It is... Degeneracy
02:07 chetty well I do get what cazalla says about things getting pushed, it just stirs people up and tends to create things like this
02:10 BingoBoingo And this is the reason why society needs institutions that beat people down
02:11 nubbins` http://www.ebay.com/chp/Virtual-Currency-/179197
02:11 ozbot Electronics, Cars, Fashion, Collectibles, Coupons and More | eBay
02:11 nubbins` god help us
02:11 nubbins` "mining contracts"
02:11 MisterE Wow! http://www.slideshare.net/ange4771/when-aes-a-cryptobinary-magic-trick
02:12 punkman nubbins`: that's gonna turn out well...
02:13 MisterE what could possibly go wrong?
02:13 punkman hmm maybe I should get one of these guys to mine some ATC for me
02:13 BingoBoingo I dunno that there is anything easier to fake for a profit than "mining" contracts
02:14 BingoBoingo punkman: atc has strong bid and ask walls
02:14 BingoBoingo may be fakeable?
02:15 cazalla buyers are probably thinking the same thing with chargebacks via paypal
02:15 cazalla it's a minefield on both sides
02:17 punkman https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=443729.0
02:17 ozbot Contracts Mining Pool Sites and Teams
02:19 nubbins` fuck, popped a screen
02:19 nubbins` >:(
02:19 MisterE inverter?
02:19 MisterE usually is
02:20 punkman not that kind of screen
02:21 nubbins` MisterE, http://imgur.com/DZgppgv
02:21 MisterE awww bummer
02:22 nubbins` not the end of the world, but still a bummer
02:23 MisterE there's a shop around the corner from me and they regularly ask for help with English
02:27 cazalla what's that in the background, free photography?
02:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 13 @ 0.04197707 = 0.5457 BTC [-] {3}
02:34 nubbins` FREE tiny piece of photo paper
02:34 nubbins` came with a printer
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02:36 nubbins` fuck this, time for bed
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02:42 BingoBoingo So... booze, what do people OL now favor?
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04:52 BingoBoingo Clausewitz for people looking to equip n00b armies:
04:53 BingoBoingo http://www.clausewitz.com/readings/VomKriege1832/TOC.htm
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05:36 zacm <cazalla> i wasn't even that far right until the leftist idiots kept pushing this white privilege bullshit LOL
05:36 zacm blowback. that's why the us libtards better hope the tea party prevails in the republican party, because if it doesn't, what will replace it they have not seen in their worst nightmares
05:39 cazalla day of the rope?
05:40 zacm haha
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05:45 zacm how hard is it to get a Yes/No from a govt agency? why so much uncertainty? traders must love it though. https://pay.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2266js/btc_china_issues_statement_they_received_no/
05:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 36 @ 0.03919722 = 1.4111 BTC [-] {5}
05:46 Apocalyptic more like FUDers love it
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05:52 zacm lovely fud
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07:11 zacm cazalla, more like what's happening in Britain already: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/10740795/Nigel-Farage-scores-victory-over-Nick-Clegg-as-second-TV-debate-turns-nasty.html
07:11 zacm Nigel Farage accused Nick Clegg of “wilfully lying to the British people” and warned that the European project could end in bloodshed during the pair’s second debate on Wednesday night.
07:11 zacm In a heated and confrontational televised debate the leader of the UK Independence Party warned that extremists would resort to “violence” unless the European Union “ends democratically”.
07:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9563 @ 0.00096027 = 9.1831 BTC [+]
07:11 zacm "I didn’t think I’d have to get personal, but he is trying to lie and deceive the British people and after 40 years we have had enough."
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08:02 VanCleef man i feel sorry for ex firefox ceo, just because you donate $1000 dollars to a anti gay marriage campaign you get fired, that's some serious heterophobic stuff
08:04 pankkake resigned because twitards got upset? what a faggot
08:05 VanCleef its stupid
08:05 VanCleef it would be like if this guy was muslim and donated to a muslim fund and got fired for that
08:06 Apocalyptic pankkake, http://www.boursorama.com/actualites/un-proprietaire-de-saunas-libertins-en-conflit-avec-pole-emploi-9e045e068c1461b654ae9c54efe34e94
08:06 pankkake lol, that's old
08:06 Apocalyptic just saw it
08:07 Apocalyptic why the fuck is that is my last bouro news feed
08:13 skinnkavaj So sad that NEOBEE turned out to be a scam/theif like most of all here.
08:13 skinnkavaj I am not holding any shares thank god, but I feel sorry for those who do
08:14 VanCleef wasn't a suprise tho
08:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 50 @ 0.004 = 0.2 BTC [+]
08:15 skinnkavaj Worst of all it gives bitcoin a bad reputation in Cyprus, when NEOBEE was supposed to be the opposite
08:15 VanCleef bitcoin has made scamming easier
08:16 VanCleef its never goign to be taken seriously
08:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 6460 @ 0.00038679 = 2.4987 BTC [-] {7}
08:18 VanCleef sfi will be the next scam to fall apart
08:18 VanCleef i promise you that
08:21 pankkake sfi?
08:24 VanCleef on havelock
08:25 pankkake it's a scam from the start, it's never going to be profitable for investors and they damn well know it
08:27 VanCleef ya
08:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.039 = 0.156 BTC [-]
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08:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 7000 @ 0.00023163 = 1.6214 BTC [-] {14}
08:35 mircea_popescu ahaha these idiots are epic. so mpoe-pr left bitcointalk, and no longer being visible is no longer teh evil mastermind. ThickAsThieves is still around, and so therefore he's it.
08:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1540 @ 0.0002 = 0.308 BTC [-] {2}
08:35 mircea_popescu fucking reptile brain, completely driven by what it immediately perceives.
08:35 mircea_popescu this is how thousands of policemen get shot each year, notwithstanding they're just lowly blue collar workers indistinguishable from the criminals shooting them in most respects.
08:36 mircea_popescu meanwhile, nobody shoots a politician. why ? well... he has enough sense not to hang out with the fuckwits.
08:38 VanCleef heh yeh i was just reading that
08:39 VanCleef really tarded stuff
08:41 Apocalyptic got a link ?
08:41 mircea_popescu ;;later tell nubbins'`* your poster sucks because no penises.
08:41 gribble Error: That is an invalid IRC nick. Please check your input.
08:42 mircea_popescu you gotta be kidding me.
08:44 TomServo lol
08:44 TomServo it's just the middle one i think :P
08:52 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo: I dunno that there is anything easier to fake for a profit than "mining" contracts <<< actually, it's a direct translation of the EVE "protection contract". ask diametric he knows how that works :D
08:55 mircea_popescu zacm: blowback. that's why the us libtards better hope the tea party prevails in the republican party, because if it doesn't, what will replace it they have not seen in their worst nightmares << this is actually correct, or at least i think the same. if teaparty doesn't take over by a large margin, by 2020ish there will be summary executions on the grounds of "being now or having ever been a social justice warrior".
09:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00095899 = 15.7274 BTC [-]
09:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0386 = 0.193 BTC [-]
09:14 mircea_popescu pankkake:resigned because twitards got upset? what a faggot << this, pretty much. your skin's that thin, you have no business there.
09:15 mircea_popescu skinnkavaj: I am not holding any shares thank god, but I feel sorry for those who do << you also feel cheeky towards your intellectual superiors, and maintain the delusion that your head works. this is much worse than having held shares in the scam du jour.
09:15 mircea_popescu in fact, it'd have been better for you if you lost your house, wife and child to neobee.
09:18 mircea_popescu and in other news, http://i.imgur.com/xsKUETn.gif
09:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00095701 = 19.7144 BTC [-] {2}
09:24 DudeSj ;;ident
09:24 gribble Nick 'DudeSj', with hostmask 'DudeSj!~linux@2600:1004:b018:c803:58da:d22d:c42d:fa73', is not identified.
09:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 12 @ 0.01 = 0.12 BTC [+]
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09:36 chetty http://asset-5.soup.io/asset/7100/9960_5b00.jpeg
09:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.063 = 1.197 BTC [+]
09:37 Apocalyptic chetty, they should have picked the photo of Putin on his bear imo
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10:10 punkman1 I've been hoarding these notes, might be useful for #b-a wiki: https://bitbucket.org/abfg/gildedtxt/src/feb5f32dc0523c2717f5b3b05e2f35a5ec22ce6c/exchanges/
10:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29150 @ 0.00095627 = 27.8753 BTC [-] {3}
10:10 mircea_popescu Log in ?
10:12 punkman1 mircea_popescu: fixed, I think
10:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0376 = 0.1504 BTC [-]
10:19 mircea_popescu not bad.
10:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.0009613 = 9.8053 BTC [+]
10:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.063 = 0.315 BTC [+]
10:25 kakobrekla want access to wiki punkman1 ?
10:26 punkman kakobrekla: I can write a script that turns them into dokuwiki format
10:27 kakobrekla well, i asked if you want editing rights
10:28 punkman sure, why not
10:28 kakobrekla pm
10:32 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/fred-quimby-and-ancient-evils/
10:32 ozbot Fred Quimby and ancient evils pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
10:33 mircea_popescu prepare to haet mp.
10:35 dexX7 what i hate about glorious linux stuff: simple "install scripts" never work and it ends in endless searches and manual fixes <.<"
10:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24162 @ 0.00096269 = 23.2605 BTC [+]
10:37 punkman ;;ident
10:37 gribble Nick 'punkman', with hostmask 'punkman!~punkman@unaffiliated/punkman', is identified as user 'punkman', with GPG key id 33588BE08B232B13, key fingerprint F28E0095843B91CB22E7D65533588BE08B232B13, and bitcoin address None
10:38 mircea_popescu dexX7 word.
10:41 dexX7 meanwhile in cyprus: http://cyprus-mail.com/2014/04/04/police-probe-claims-of-bitcoin-fraud/
10:42 mircea_popescu FREE PUBLICITY! BUY NEO
10:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.06295 = 0.5036 BTC [-]
10:48 punkman mircea_popescu, idea for bitbet, play-money tournament like http://goodjudgmentproject.com/ maybe with some BTC prizes
10:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35300 @ 0.00096294 = 33.9918 BTC [+] {4}
10:50 mike_c hehe. i love how they characterize them :) "Cyprus-based bitcoin marketers Neo & Bee "
10:51 mike_c the press gets it right for once
10:51 artifexd Today's trilema hurt my feelings. I don't want to be fungible. "I am fungible." What a depressing thing to say.
10:52 pankkake fungible is a pretty good insult
10:52 pankkake I'm definitively going to steal that one
10:52 artifexd The thing is, I'm happy programming. I enjoy it. It fills me with a sense of accomplishment. In my day job, it fills me with a sense of importance and value. And yet...
10:54 artifexd I guess I shall spend the weekend doing some soul-searching on whether being "fungible" is acceptable to me. I suspect the answer will be "no".
10:56 artifexd I suppose part of the question is "fungible to who?" While I may be fungible at my day job. I'm certainly not fungible to my daughter. I am probably not fungible to my wife. I am, without a doubt, fungible in #bitcoin-assets.
10:56 artifexd Who, exactly, do I want to be "not fungible" to?
10:56 pankkake I left a comment
10:56 artifexd Whole lotta thinkin' to do...
10:56 mircea_popescu mike_c i saw that yeah
10:57 mircea_popescu punkman there's at least 100 of these things. basically "market forecasting" is the 2014 version of the million dollar webpage.
10:57 mircea_popescu everyone wants to make his own.
10:57 mircea_popescu artifexd your feelings are more fungible than you are :D
10:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.03731666 = 0.2239 BTC [-] {3}
10:59 chetty all coders maybe created equal, don't mean they gotta stay that way
11:00 mircea_popescu pankkake answert :D
11:00 mircea_popescu irc pingdom
11:01 artifexd If by equal you mean "equally crappy", yeah. All coders/programmers start shitty.
11:02 mircea_popescu no he has a solid point. fungible code is good code. you know that famous poem do you ?
11:02 mircea_popescu http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/story-of-mel.html < that.
11:02 ozbot The Story of Mel
11:02 nubbins` mircea_popescu i srsly considered adding big fat penises to the poster
11:03 nubbins` didn't wanna force it ;p
11:03 mircea_popescu masturba-whatever, must has penis
11:03 nubbins` http://thescope.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/monsterbator-540.jpg
11:03 nubbins` ^
11:03 mircea_popescu yeh
11:03 mircea_popescu at least octopussy, something.
11:04 nubbins` amusingly, google image search for "monsterbator" is turning into a pink eye portfolio
11:04 mircea_popescu that'd be because you're weirdos.
11:05 * nubbins` nods
11:05 nubbins` http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1.0-0/c0.0.960.640/s720x720/1044603_600881786612048_1450220467_n.jpg
11:05 nubbins` they are too, so it's a nice fit
11:05 mircea_popescu they look more like two plumbers.
11:06 nubbins` heh
11:06 nubbins` can't argue
11:07 nubbins` http://vimeo.com/63242867 for great lels
11:08 ozbot Monsterbator - Fashionista on Vimeo
~ 15 minutes ~
11:23 mircea_popescu http://zappa.brainiac.com/MelKaye.png
11:23 mircea_popescu women in tech, long ago.
11:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3789 @ 0.00015093 = 0.5719 BTC [-] {8}
11:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.03668333 = 0.2201 BTC [-] {2}
11:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.06190562 = 0.3095 BTC [-] {2}
11:29 nubbins` men with initials for names
11:29 nubbins` hey, i'm D.D., this is K.A.
11:30 mircea_popescu https://bitcointa.lk/threads/neo-bee-talk-spam-free-thread.288255/page-23
11:30 ozbot Neo & Bee talk (spam free thread) | Page 23 | Bitcointa.lk
11:30 mircea_popescu plambert should write the manual on "how to create a 20 page thread in a day"
11:30 mircea_popescu "Illogical? As in giving your money to a bankster wannabee to fund a bank because you hate banksters?"
11:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00096134 = 3.6531 BTC [-]
11:31 nubbins` man, i just came across my ebay tab, opened to the "mining contracts" category
11:31 nubbins` and had myself another lel.
11:31 nubbins` mircea_popescu: that's almost poetic
11:31 nubbins` death to banks, long live bankesque things
11:32 mircea_popescu such self loathing, self consuming nonsense, this western world of the muppetsd.
11:32 nubbins` like a snake eating its tail but instead of a snake it's a man and instead of a tail it's a dick
11:32 mircea_popescu "I'm new here, for what it's worth, but your ability to offend and act like an idiot is apparent. You have no friggin' idea why I invested in Neo & Bee. Really. You are illogical. Your statement's so far have been illogical (due to incomplete information) and you act like they're logical without even beginning to take a wise or mature stance on the issue by way of accepting you don't know what you're talking about most
11:32 mircea_popescu of the time (purely by virtue of the universe's mechanisms; that's not a personal slight)."
11:33 thestringpuller nubbins`: isn't that an ouroboros?
11:33 mircea_popescu "also, my butt inexplicably hurts. INEXPLICABLY I SAY! and has nothing to do with the head sitting atop it."
11:33 nubbins` the snake one is, yes
11:33 mircea_popescu penisbordos ?
11:33 nubbins` mircea_popescu i stopped reading at "your statement's so far"
11:34 mircea_popescu nubbins` there was some derp at some point going for about 200 words pretending like he's a bigshot
11:34 mircea_popescu then dropped a there in there. you know, instead of their.
11:34 nubbins` bigshot who doesn't read books, apparently
11:34 mircea_popescu adult audience groaning "o yes of course, lots of big shots have trouble with junior high grammar"
11:34 nubbins` i saw this proposed as a captcha replacement once
11:35 nubbins` "they're there their" in three images, with a sentence underneath
11:35 nubbins` pick the correct one and gain access
11:35 mircea_popescu lol. let all the spamscripts in but none of reddit ?
11:35 nubbins` yes!!
11:35 nubbins` http://imgur.com/u10eW
11:35 ozbot Who cares about robots, here's a much more practical CAPTCHA. - Imgur
11:36 mircea_popescu win
11:36 mircea_popescu “Following those posts on the forum, I received direct threats targeted directly at my daughter"
11:37 mircea_popescu should have been "i received a directory of direct threats directed directly at my daughter"
11:37 ThickAsThieves ...
11:37 mircea_popescu because he's on the board of directors see.
11:37 ThickAsThieves is that really the quote?
11:37 mircea_popescu http://cyprus-mail.com/2014/04/04/police-probe-claims-of-bitcoin-fraud/
11:37 ThickAsThieves lol
11:37 ThickAsThieves nvm
11:37 mircea_popescu so sayz whatever cyprus thing
11:42 the20year2 oh my
11:45 nubbins` man. so i ordered a bunch of supplies on wednesday. put my debit card number into three different websites instead of my credit card number
11:45 nubbins` been getting all these emails saying my orders are on hold ;(
11:49 nubbins` ;;seen ukyo
11:49 gribble ukyo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 14 hours, 54 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <Ukyo> mgio_: ping
11:50 asciilifeform unrelated:
11:50 asciilifeform http://scottlocklin.wordpress.com/2014/04/04/michael-lewis-shilling-for-the-buyside
11:50 ozbot Michael Lewis: shilling for the buyside | Locklin on science
11:50 mircea_popescu stories from a different hell :
11:50 mircea_popescu http://blog.dolarblue.net/2014/04/el-precio-del-dolar-futuro-anticipa-una.html
11:51 mircea_popescu "oligarchical reptiles who are destroying Western Civilization" check the guy out.
11:51 nubbins` poorly thought-out decisions:
11:51 nubbins` http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/226y67/what_music_should_i_listen_to_as_i_attempt_50/
11:51 ozbot What Music Should I Listen to As I Attempt 50 Mile Ultramarathon With No Training to Raise 50 Bitcoi
11:51 nubbins` fifty miles. without training.
11:51 nubbins` "I know it's it going to suck. I know it's going to hurt. And I know it won't be easy. But, that's why I want to do it."
11:51 nubbins` i can't even express the amount of fail on display here
11:52 mircea_popescu well, are there going to be a fifty girls following him a mile each with cattle prods and clear orders to cattle prod him without respite unless he runs?
11:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2000 @ 0.00034521 = 0.6904 BTC [+] {9}
11:52 nubbins` that's 80 fucking kilometers
11:52 mircea_popescu cause i'd pay 50 btc for this particular snuff video.
11:52 nubbins` your body would break down
11:52 mircea_popescu "man killed with cattle prods"
11:53 nubbins` literally, he will cripple himself before the first 10k is up
11:53 mircea_popescu it's a good and useful thing.
11:53 nubbins` at least he's not trying to start an exchange
11:53 mircea_popescu he should die a bloody painful death so the rest of redit observes directly that no, you can't do anything "you set your mind to".
11:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1076 @ 0.00038382 = 0.413 BTC [+] {7}
11:53 mircea_popescu guy;s so far the most respectable of the whole bunch. provided he actually does die.
11:54 nubbins` "I'm just trying to shed some positive light on Bitcoin"
11:54 nubbins` by dying on the road
11:54 nubbins` seriously. a regular marathon isn't big enough
11:54 mircea_popescu tbh this nonsense has exactly 0 to do with bitcoin
11:54 nubbins` so he's gonna do two back-to-back
11:54 mircea_popescu it's a mental problem of kids that weren't allowed to get hurt.
11:54 nubbins` nevermind that seasoned runners will train 8 months for a marathon
11:55 nubbins` mircea_popescu he'll certainly be allowed to get hurt if he shows up to this race
11:55 nubbins` ah, my sides.
11:55 nubbins` anyway, work to do!
11:56 mircea_popescu i walk a good 10 miles a day, but i wouldn't bother trying to run50
11:57 chetty http://washingtonexaminer.com/house-panel-to-vote-on-contempt-charge-for-irs-official-lois-lerner-next-week/article/2546754
11:57 ozbot House panel to vote on contempt charge for IRS official Lois Lerner next week | WashingtonExaminer.c
11:58 khersonus do you walk 10 miles for the purpose of getting somewhere, or just for exercise?
11:58 mircea_popescu khersonus i tend to walk a lot. i like european-style towns, where most everything is designed for the pedestrian.
11:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.54118260 BTC to 5`060 shares, 50221 satoshi per share
12:00 mike_c s.mg report coming soon?
12:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] [PAID] 5.92877950 BTC to 13`595 shares, 43610 satoshi per share
12:01 mircea_popescu yeah.
12:01 benkay BingoBoingo: ping
12:01 mircea_popescu likely tomorro.
12:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.10144642 BTC [-]
12:01 khersonus have any of you seen the "sign message" feature of bitcoin used for a service in the wild?
12:02 mike_c khersonus: coinbr uses it.
12:02 mircea_popescu not really. it's incredibly badly implemented, and perfectly useless seeing how gpg does it better.
12:02 mircea_popescu some people do offer it, but heh.
12:02 khersonus badly implemented, as in, it's not secure?
12:03 mircea_popescu we've never got to the security of it. it's badly implemented as in, let me find the discussion.
12:04 khersonus mike_c: I see, I had a similar idea in mind for proving ownership of coins
12:04 mike_c you can ask jurov how it's worked out for coinbr in practice.
12:05 pLambert what is this, monthly reports? pfht, you should tell us they will be ready in two weeks
12:05 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-03-2014#566865
12:05 mircea_popescu that convo
12:05 ozbot #bitcoin-assets log
12:05 khersonus in this case it does seem coinbr uses it to secure coins, I'm assuming if you reset an account password you can withdraw
12:06 khersonus mircea_popescu: thanks, will read
12:06 mike_c pLambert: he's just finishing up the neobee acquisition before releasing the march report :)
12:06 mircea_popescu yeah, s.mg is going to re-release neo as a zork-type game
12:06 pLambert wouldn't neeobee acquisition have to go in April? or has he been working behind the scenes this whole time ;)
12:07 mircea_popescu i've hired the something awful experts that made beeboopity to do it.
12:11 khersonus so, bitcoin sig needs: btc address, message, signature. GPG needs: public key, message, signature. About the same, right?
12:13 mircea_popescu khersonus if i can't have a bot to which i go ;;sig blabla and it spits out a "so and so signed this thing on this date" it's useless toi me.
12:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7727 @ 0.0001691 = 1.3066 BTC [+] {9}
12:14 khersonus can you do that with GPG? I haven't seen it used before
12:15 pLambert gpg sig includes the date?
12:15 mircea_popescu pLambert it does, yes.
12:15 pLambert cool, I didn't know that
12:15 mircea_popescu it's declaratory (in the sense that the signer can set it to any arbitrary value he wants)
12:15 mircea_popescu but it's there
12:16 mircea_popescu khersonus what do you mean you haven't seen it used before ? gpg altogether or specifically a bot ?
12:16 khersonus specifically a bot
12:16 mircea_popescu i don't need/want one for gpg personally. because i already have the infrastructure in place to do that for me.
12:16 mircea_popescu a contender can't expect me to simply invest in the infrastructure.
12:16 truffles read "i hate change"
12:17 mircea_popescu i do hate change.
12:17 mircea_popescu because if it ain't broken...
12:17 truffles we have that in common
12:17 pLambert .. then you gotta hit it harder?
12:17 khersonus I've seen the MPEX messaging thing with pastebin websites, pretty cool, but, it's not ;;sig
12:17 mircea_popescu change for the sake of change is like...
12:18 mircea_popescu khersonus no, but gpg paste is.
12:18 mircea_popescu it makes 0 diff to me if i type ;;sig in here or gpg in a cli. all i want is to have somewhere i can type into.
12:18 khersonus sure
12:18 mircea_popescu and i ain't running whoever's code, so cli is right out for them. gotta do the bot.
12:19 mircea_popescu now, the problem of making a bot / extending one already present is not worth the mention
12:19 mircea_popescu provided it can be done in the first place.
12:19 khersonus I'm more interested in proving address ownership, which you can't really do with just GPG, as far as I can tell
12:19 mircea_popescu ie, the bitcoin address signature protocol is good enough to support it.
12:19 mircea_popescu so far, seems not.
12:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17064 @ 0.0009589 = 16.3627 BTC [-]
12:20 mircea_popescu khersonus you can, if somewhat more circumvolutedly. you sign a gpg "x address will pay 0.04875983 btc to y address at z time"
12:20 mircea_popescu then that event happens and the proof is made.
12:20 khersonus but if I wanted to do this on a larger scale, that is not exactly handy
12:20 mircea_popescu why not ?
12:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 15 @ 0.00980086 = 0.147 BTC [-] {4}
12:21 khersonus it requires a blockchain transaction
12:21 pLambert mircea_popescu: but that requires moving the coins, and bloats the blockchain
12:21 mircea_popescu you can program both gpg via bash and bitcoin client via whatever api
12:21 mircea_popescu well i suppose it does use a tx yes.
12:22 mircea_popescu i have no idea how you'd verify btc address signatures on a large scale.
12:22 mircea_popescu if it could be done, i'd have my ;;sig
12:23 khersonus I'm working on something I think you might find interesting, MP, but it will require a few more months of me working on it (just in case I find some hole I overlooked in the implementation that I didn't think of in the planning stages)
12:23 pLambert I was just thinking, for gpg timestamp authenticity, you could add the last few bitcoin block hashes from the blockchain to your message?
12:23 mircea_popescu you're not the only one khersonus :)
12:23 khersonus :)
12:23 mike_c is it a secret something?
12:23 mircea_popescu pLambert a gpg message including a block and its hash could prove it wasn't made before that block yes
12:24 mircea_popescu like 0000000000000000ab79febd4d7e160246f322fb282e1f3a7c449dd5b5c1ef44#294194 proves this line was written no earelier than 2014-04-04 16:19:01
12:25 pLambert would that be useful for anything?
12:25 CheckDavid There is some guy called pop mircea constantly spamming Facebook btc groups lol
12:25 CheckDavid Always reminds me of mircea_popescu
12:25 mircea_popescu pLambert often it turns out such things are, yes.
12:25 mircea_popescu anyway, the above stands except for some blockwitholding attacks, so for instance an empty block isn't advisably acceptable.
12:26 mircea_popescu also some wiggle room on time. but anyway.
12:26 pLambert but how to prove message was not written after some point?
12:26 khersonus mike_c: not really. I'd like there to be a way/market to profit from the BTC/USD price movement, in bitcoin, without there being a possibility of the marketmaker/house going bust, and without the house needing to take the opposite side of a position
12:26 mircea_popescu pLambert by publishing it.
12:26 mircea_popescu it clearly wasn't written after it was published.
12:27 mircea_popescu that part was never difficult to prove historically. the other side is the grand contribution of gpg/bitcoin to legal practice.
12:27 mike_c khersonus: you are familiar with MPOE?
12:27 khersonus mike_c: for sure
12:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 29000 @ 0.00017473 = 5.0672 BTC [+] {16}
12:28 mike_c have you thought through how to avoid the problems it had?
12:28 khersonus I'm also familiar with CFDs/"binary options"/wotnot that have failed
12:28 khersonus mike_c: yeah, but what I'm working on won't be "options"
12:28 mircea_popescu mike_c well since he says "and without the house needing to take the opposite side of a position" i imagine he's at least tried.
12:30 mike_c well, i am eager to hear about it! not sure how one profits without a counterparty taking the loss.
12:30 khersonus anyway, back to work, great to see you guys are not afraid to talk
12:30 khersonus I'll be sure to let you know how it goes
12:30 truffles lol
12:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4719 @ 0.0009605 = 4.5326 BTC [+] {2}
12:31 mircea_popescu afraid to talk ? never.
12:31 mircea_popescu in other words, my blog just told me it's only accepting comments from human beings.
12:31 dexX7 <khersonus> so, bitcoin sig needs: btc address, message, signature. << ?? you need a privkey and a message to generate a signature.. from the sig+message you can derive the public key
12:31 mircea_popescu and did it in the PLURAL to boot. who the fuck is this we i wish to know.
12:32 khersonus dexX7: yeah, but to verify a bitcoin message, you need those 3 things
12:32 dexX7 no, only two
12:33 dexX7 well okay. depends on your intention
12:33 khersonus well, bitcoind asks for 3 inputs
12:33 dexX7 yes, but it's not necessary
12:33 mircea_popescu they really should respecify the thing, have it spit out a base64 blob which can then be used directly.
12:33 dexX7 you can solely use message+sig to get public key/address
12:33 khersonus well, "signmessage "bitcoinaddress" "message""
12:33 mircea_popescu address|message|publickey|digest
12:34 khersonus verifymessage "bitcoinaddress" "signature" "message"
12:34 mircea_popescu should be verifymessage signblob
12:34 dexX7 it should have said it's not possible with bitcoind
12:34 dexX7 but other clients or tools
12:34 dexX7 http://brainwallet.org/#verify for example
12:34 ozbot Brainwallet - JavaScript Client-Side Bitcoin Address Generator
12:38 khersonus https://github.com/brainwallet/brainwallet.github.com/blob/master/js/bitcoinsig.js#L36
12:38 truffles at work on irc?
12:39 khersonus by "back to work" I meant "back to coding". I don't have a "day job"
12:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5396 @ 0.00096034 = 5.182 BTC [-]
12:40 truffles coding..
12:40 truffles i can triple task too
12:41 khersonus well, obviously my attention is not directly focused on coding at this exact moment
12:41 truffles sure
12:41 truffles so how many errors did u make since
12:42 khersonus none, I haven't typed single key yet in vim either
12:42 khersonus very productive! :P
12:42 truffles uh huh
12:43 khersonus (yet, meaning since I said that I would) anyway...
12:43 truffles id rather hear about ur coding fails or procastinations than this gpg ..
12:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11404 @ 0.0009634 = 10.9866 BTC [+]
12:51 mircea_popescu cmyers http://blog.cmyers.org/index.php/2008/10/26/what-i-dont-understand-could-fill-several-libraries-of-congress/ not so bad.
12:52 ThickAsThieves So I posted about out the Supreme Court found that "narcotic checkpoints" are unconstitutional, in the local community Facebook group. Guess what most people replied?
12:53 asciilifeform what braggartry! the things i don't understand... could fill a galactic library.
12:53 truffles it stops terrorism?
12:53 ThickAsThieves "The fact that they randomly are checking cars sounds good to me! That's how they find the people that are hiding there drugs! Why would you be so worried about it? If they pull me over at random I have no problem with them checking my car cuz I have nothing to hide! Things like this help keep the community safe and drug free!"
12:53 ThickAsThieves "I think I will call the Sheriff and tell him Thank You and good job officers !!!"
12:53 cmyers I have no idea why you are reading my random blog entries from 6 years ago.
12:53 ThickAsThieves "Really! If you think you can do a better job, strap on a vest, join the force and get your butt out there!"
12:54 truffles cmyers good topic
12:54 truffles some ppl itc appear to know it all
12:54 truffles TAT what did u expect lol
12:54 ThickAsThieves " I don't think it would be an issue if they were stopping everyone. The fact that they are picking and choosing is the problem."
12:55 ThickAsThieves "Don't have drugs or illegal possessions in your vehicle and you have nothing to worry about."
12:55 ThickAsThieves etc
12:55 cmyers I've come a long way over the years. I'm happy to say I'm engaged, in a fulfilling job, etc etc. But in particular, I've spent a lot of time studying (armchair-studying) epistemology, and how people know things
12:55 cmyers certainty is the biggest enemy of truth.
12:55 truffles what is ur religious preference?
12:55 cmyers I am an atheist.
12:56 truffles are u certain of this?
12:56 cmyers no. I lack a belief in a god, which is what atheist means
12:56 truffles just a stab at that certainty think
12:56 truffles thing*
12:56 danielpbarron police will rip your car apart trying to justify the search, and then they might plant evidence if nothing turns up! #nothingtohide
12:56 cmyers I am open to evidence to the contrary, but thus far I ahve seen no evidence
12:56 truffles so ure certain?
12:56 danielpbarron a food says there is no God
12:56 danielpbarron fool*
12:57 cmyers I am certain I do not believe in a god. I am not certain there is no god
12:57 cmyers to discuss how certain I am, you ahve to define which god you are talking about.
12:57 truffles well then ure agnostic imo
12:57 danielpbarron cmyers: the Jesus Christ of the Bible
12:57 cmyers truffles: no, that is now how those words are defined. I am an agnostic atheist
12:57 cmyers agnostic and atheist are not mutually exclusive
12:57 truffles ugh
12:57 cmyers you can be gnostic or agnostic, theist or athiest
12:57 truffles pick a side
12:58 cmyers false dichotomy fallacy
12:58 cmyers there is no "two sides"
12:58 cmyers it is an axis
12:58 truffles umk
12:58 cmyers if you believe there is a god, but aren't certain, then you are an agnostic theist
12:58 danielpbarron it is not man's role to choose to believe; God causes belief and disbelief
12:58 cmyers for example
12:58 cmyers danielpbarron: if that is true, then god caused me to disbelieve.
12:58 truffles here lies why id prefer discussions with a troll than a "knowlegeable" person cuz at least the troll knows he's trolling
12:59 cmyers truffles: wait, which of those are you?
12:59 Apocalyptic hard to tell
12:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] [PAID] 22.20000000 BTC to 30`000`000 shares, 74 satoshi per share
12:59 truffles lol
12:59 cmyers anyways, if you would like to continue this discussion, join #atheist on snoonet.
12:59 cmyers erm, #atheism
12:59 benkay snoonet
12:59 cmyers I idle in there as well.
12:59 benkay irc of reddit
12:59 truffles i dont consider myself a troll
12:59 benkay much derp
13:00 truffles i cant with the atheists, theyre very certain of things
13:00 cmyers truffles: I could say christians love blowing up abortion clinics
13:00 cmyers but that isn't very fair, is it?
13:00 cmyers depends on which christians you talk to
13:00 cmyers don't generalize
13:01 truffles its very rare to find a reasonable one though
13:01 cmyers some atheists are certain, but that is not what atheism means
13:01 danielpbarron abortionists deserve to be executed
13:01 cmyers the literal meaning of atheism is a lack of belief in a god or gods. that's it.
13:01 truffles at least the ones that self select to those places i have bad experience
13:01 cmyers truffles: look harder.
13:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00096034 = 6.2422 BTC [-]
13:01 cmyers truffles: I agree, there is much derp on #atheism and /r/atheism and you will find some there
13:02 BCB Bitcoin's Boosters Struggle to Shore Up Confidence: http://goo.gl/uyVOFg (WSJ)
13:02 cmyers but remember, a "millitant atheist" uses a pen and a keyboard. what does a "millitant christian" or "millitant muslim" use? The words are all out of whack.
13:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 6142 @ 0.00017959 = 1.103 BTC [-] {4}
13:02 cmyers it's like apples and oranges.
13:02 truffles they can be religious only in name though
13:03 cmyers who can?
13:03 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves "there drugs". obviously.
13:03 danielpbarron a millitant Christian wields the sword of Truth which is the Gospel
13:03 benkay it's all sound and fury signifying nothing, cmyers
13:03 mircea_popescu cmyers because i have fifty million people employed who no longer read the forum.
13:03 mircea_popescu so now they read... everything else.
13:03 mircea_popescu incredible how good for productivity nonforuming is.
13:03 benkay yeah and i bet cortisol levels too
13:04 benkay you took a decade off that lady's life. shame, mircea_popescu !
13:04 danielpbarron i'm really glad I only recently started checking out the forums; I probably would have been swindled like everyone else if I had read it from the beginning
13:05 mircea_popescu benkay i would guess the work efficiency differential displayed there was about 1000:1.
13:05 benkay such waste.
13:05 mircea_popescu ie, about nine hours' worth of ~3 people's work on my side resulted in comensurate value with maybe 10k hours of 10k muppet's worth
13:05 mircea_popescu work*
13:06 mircea_popescu danielpbarron are you being ironic or some shit ?
13:07 danielpbarron regarding?
13:07 danielpbarron (no, regardless)
13:08 mircea_popescu also, from the ridiculous tourban department :
13:08 mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/embed/ERYKzez97lA
13:08 ozbot CARMEN MIRANDA IS A CHICA CHICA BOOM CHIC - YouTube
13:08 truffles carmen sandiego though..
13:11 truffles weird i read that happiness thing carl n i gotta buncha sadpanda's
13:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 18 @ 0.0362 = 0.6516 BTC [-]
13:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.06065 = 0.4852 BTC [-] {2}
13:12 mircea_popescu danielpbarron i meant re the abortion/gospel stuff
13:13 danielpbarron I believe the entire Bible
13:13 truffles oh my
13:13 * truffles knows people like this irl
13:13 danielpbarron i doubt it
13:14 truffles that i do?
13:14 mircea_popescu re-reading this february piece http://trilema.com/2014/on-periphery-and-the-peripheral-ephemerides-are-also-mentioned/
13:14 mircea_popescu "But compare and contrast (by which I mean meditate upon) the alt coin with max keiser’s alt coin and you’ll perhaps… you’ll come to something."
13:14 mircea_popescu how's keisercoin doing these days ?
13:14 danielpbarron the only other individuals i've met that believe the entire Bible live in a different state
13:14 mike_c danielpbarron: that is impossible as much of it is contradictory.
13:14 mircea_popescu mike_c contradiction does not bar belief.
13:14 truffles well i once was a religious person so uh yea i know of many
13:14 mircea_popescu he didn;'t claim to understand it, after all.
13:15 danielpbarron truffles: that doesn't mean he won't be destroyed forever by God in the lake of fire
13:15 danielpbarron yeah, you don't need to understand the Bible, you just need to believe it
13:15 mircea_popescu danielpbarron so which part do you believe best ?
13:15 mike_c words. meaning. what do you "believe" about it.
13:15 danielpbarron all of it
13:15 danielpbarron there are no non-essentials; the whole Bible is essential
13:15 mircea_popescu including the lilith story ?
13:15 danielpbarron no
13:16 danielpbarron that is not part of the Bible
13:16 mircea_popescu why not ?
13:16 mircea_popescu how do you know this ?
13:16 truffles God said so!
13:16 danielpbarron the story of lilith contradicts the rest of the Bible
13:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0361 = 0.1083 BTC [-]
13:16 mircea_popescu so ?
13:17 mircea_popescu lol that didn't take long.
13:17 truffles lilith oh thats in True Blood
13:17 mircea_popescu mike_c i hope you're taking notes :D
13:17 danielpbarron so it would make God a liar
13:17 mircea_popescu not if you believe it.
13:17 truffles now that show is much more interesting heh
13:18 mike_c you eviscerated him much quicker than i could have.
13:18 mircea_popescu see because the butcher who never needs his knife sharpened does not cut the meat
13:18 mircea_popescu but merely follows the spaces thatr were already there.
13:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0075 = 0.375 BTC [+]
13:19 danielpbarron if you believe a lie, you are not saved
13:19 danielpbarron regarding the Bible that is
13:19 lalusch wtb neobee shares
13:20 lalusch lol
13:20 mircea_popescu paying auroracoins ?
13:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.06299999 = 0.126 BTC [+]
13:24 the20year2 Lillith essentially comes from traditional jewish oral history
13:25 mircea_popescu the20year2 "the bible" is an arbitrary cut-out of jewish folk stories anyway, so.
13:25 benkay musta not made the nicean cut
13:25 mike_c "And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked?" << well who do you think it was?
13:25 benkay wunder whylzolzolzl
13:25 danielpbarron we shouldn't speculate, mike_c
13:25 mircea_popescu why are you buying bitcoin then ?
13:25 mike_c no discussing the bible?
13:26 mircea_popescu mike_c only in latin.
13:26 danielpbarron we shouldn't speculate regarding the Bible
13:26 the20year2 From the traditional theological classes I've taken the 'who that was' was satan
13:26 mircea_popescu actually if a rule was made that discussing the bible in any other language is heresy and lake-of-fire it'd be so much better.
13:26 asciilifeform koran.
13:26 danielpbarron the Bible does not say that Satan told Adam he was naked
13:26 danielpbarron to suggest otherwise would be to add to the Word
13:26 mircea_popescu this is actually true.
13:27 danielpbarron maybe Satan did say that, we don't know
13:27 mircea_popescu the "who told you" question is indeed old.
13:27 mike_c who else was talking at the time?
13:27 cmyers danielpbarron: I wonder what your answer to the epicurian dilemma is?
13:27 benkay (lilith)
13:27 danielpbarron cmyers: i'm not familiar with it
13:27 mircea_popescu benkay no, her mouth was full.
13:27 mircea_popescu cmyers epicurean ffs.
13:27 mike_c lilith and eve were in the garden at the same time? sucks for adam.
13:27 the20year2 Thus why i said traditional theological classes
13:27 danielpbarron the Bible says that simply eating the fruit caused them to change
13:28 benkay mike_c: don't knock it...
13:28 mike_c danielpbarron: then why did God ask the question?
13:28 mircea_popescu mike_c proper blowjob is one on the balls the other on the head.
13:28 cmyers there is evil in the world. If god is willing to stop it, but unable, he is not omnipotent. If he is able, but not willing, he is not perfectly good. IF he is neither, why call him god? If he is both, then whence commeth evil?
13:28 danielpbarron mike_c: it was retorical?
13:28 danielpbarron I don't know
13:28 danielpbarron more speculation
13:28 mircea_popescu cmyers " If he is able, but not willing, he is not perfectly good. " << that's weak.
13:28 danielpbarron God doesn't say why He asked
13:29 cmyers mircea_popescu: only if you define god as "not perfectly good"
13:29 danielpbarron cmyers: God causes evil (see Isaiah 45:7)
13:29 cmyers which is goalpost shifting
13:29 mircea_popescu it unites the epicurean with the cheeky children of today, all presuming they are a measuring stick for good.
13:29 the20year2 Dpeends on if you believe or understand the biblical roots of sin and mankind. If you understand those it answers the question cmyers
13:29 mircea_popescu they aren't.
13:29 mircea_popescu my lash, and not my slave's butt, is the measuring stick of good.
13:29 cmyers so god exists because the bible explains it all, and the bible explains it all because god exists. awesome.
13:29 danielpbarron so it is a misunderstanding to ask why God "allows evil" --- He CAUSES IT
13:29 cmyers then god can suck my dick
13:30 benkay how funny
13:30 cmyers he's a shitty god
13:30 mircea_popescu well she could...
13:30 the20year2 That's not where i"m going cmyers, I rather am saying the answer to your question is there
13:30 benkay an atheist and a bible thumper show up in assets the same day
13:30 benkay what are the odds.
13:30 mircea_popescu cmyers problem is nobody asked you see ? :D
13:30 cmyers fair enough.
13:30 danielpbarron He's an all powerful God; if He didn't cause evil (and evil exists) then He is not all powerful
13:30 cmyers time to go do work I guess =/
13:30 mircea_popescu benkay i claim dibs on having produced the event.
13:31 cmyers mircea_popescu: I agree, you get credit.
13:31 mircea_popescu cmyers either that or you're not a perfectly good worker :D
13:31 cmyers I never claimed to be =)
13:32 mircea_popescu anyway. "evil" is definitely good. much like poverty, inequality and so forth
13:32 benkay mircea_popescu: you suck.
13:32 mircea_popescu pain and suffering is a sine qua non condition of human existence.
13:32 danielpbarron evil is the opposite of good
13:32 mircea_popescu benkay yeah but only clits.
13:32 benkay mircea_popescu: i'd rather talk about lasers and encryption and rockets and titties
13:32 benkay this nicean shit is BORING.
13:32 mircea_popescu http://25.media.tumblr.com/f161b6cc73b2beb3608e50fffc7026a0/tumblr_mjv7cihzDH1s83gwno1_500.jpg
13:32 mircea_popescu ok.
13:33 benkay what is wrong with her hair?!
13:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 101 @ 0.01574186 = 1.5899 BTC [+] {9}
13:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.60010001 BTC [-]
13:33 benkay i've seen burner chicks with better hair at day 12 on the playa
13:33 mircea_popescu i guess that's what emo foxy chicks do ?
13:33 the20year2 So has neobee collapsed with brewster stepping down, or are they still out there?
13:34 jborkl she needs to wash her nasty feet
13:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 15 @ 0.01899871 = 0.285 BTC [+] {2}
13:34 jborkl otherwise looking good
13:34 benkay jborkl: lol
13:34 mircea_popescu jborkl i think that's a fetish.
13:35 jborkl well now that is gross, you know what is on the floor?
13:35 mircea_popescu the20year2 there was some article earlier, apparently they're bein investigated for fraud by cyprus police now.
13:35 truffles <danielpbarron> He's an all powerful God; if He didn't cause evil (and evil exists) then He is not all powerful >>>> my understanding was God made His creations and left them to freewill which amounted to this widespread evil
13:35 the20year2 i saw that mircea_popescu. I was curious if anyone had actually stopped by their offices in Cyprus?
13:35 truffles acutally eating that apple was the beginning most likely
13:35 the20year2 truffles: that's the gist of the story
13:35 truffles for a believer danielpbarron has a weird view of things
13:35 mircea_popescu apparently their office is abandoned, employees unpaid went home.
13:36 the20year2 oh wow
13:36 the20year2 truffles: not exactly, his viewpoint is pretty common in US southern Baptists
13:36 truffles oh
13:36 danielpbarron truffles: that is not true; the concept of "free will" has no Biblical foundation
13:37 truffles in some english translation its there
13:37 the20year2 it certrainly does if you're not a calvinist
13:37 danielpbarron show me, truffles
13:37 truffles pfff
13:37 truffles not at this moment
13:37 jborkl .b
13:37 danielpbarron the Bible mentions "free will offerings" which are animal sacrifices that do not coresond to a sin having been committed
13:38 mircea_popescu i guess kansas counts as southern for this purpose.
13:38 danielpbarron that doesn't mean man choose to make the offering, God caused the choice
13:38 benkay .bait
13:38 ozbot http://24.media.tumblr.com/671c9247b6be6e9ef55673b00e1241d2/tumblr_moulc826Oe1qirt93o1_500.jpg
13:38 benkay EXCELLENT BAIT, OZBOT
13:38 benkay MUCH APPROVE
13:38 mike_c oh geez. biblical determinism. then why did god ask who told they were nekked??
13:38 benkay such bait
13:38 danielpbarron He doesn't say
13:38 jborkl .bait jesus
13:38 ozbot http://37.media.tumblr.com/449a6c8cbe96020ed4941c4b1ba290e5/tumblr_mn92i2q8GK1rj77kao1_500.jpg
13:38 the20year2 If choice doesn't exist, then why does Christ say "Come to me all who are weary"
13:38 mike_c he's just asking random questions for no reason because he already knew and he made eve do it anyway?
13:38 truffles mike_c simple answer He knoweth all
13:39 mike_c DON'T YOU SEE THIS MAKES NO SENSE.
13:39 danielpbarron the20year2: He doesn't say
13:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.60010001 BTC [-]
13:39 danielpbarron mike_c: you've never asked a retorical question?
13:39 the20year2 In Matthew 11:28 he doesn't?
13:39 mircea_popescu <mike_c> he's just asking random questions for no reason because he already knew and he made eve do it anyway? << i actually do this.
13:39 jborkl mircea, is -pr still banished from the forum?
13:39 mircea_popescu much to [noob] slavegirl frustration.
13:39 truffles lol banished
13:40 danielpbarron the20year2: no, He doesn't say why He asked that question
13:40 mircea_popescu jborkl i have no idea but i'd imagine so ?
13:40 mike_c 1) He made eve eat the apple. 2) He knew who told eve she was nekked. 3) He had a conversation about it with her anyway, already knowing the answers, the outcome of the conversation, and everything that would happen before and after.
13:40 benkay mike_c: stahpo
13:40 mircea_popescu sooo ?
13:40 benkay mike_c: stahp stahp stahp stahp
13:40 danielpbarron mike_c: we don't know that someone told Eve she was naked
13:40 truffles whatd did she do that she didnt already do that caused banishment??
13:40 mike_c sorry sorry.
13:40 mike_c i'm out.
13:40 benkay you're fired
13:40 the20year2 He told them to come to him who are weary, burdened, ect so they could believe in Him, so they could be changed. If it wasn't a choice ,Christ would have never said ' come to me', he would have just done it to those whom he was speaking to.
13:40 benkay the20year2!
13:40 benkay you too!
13:41 benkay cut it out!
13:41 the20year2 Meh
13:41 the20year2 I've made my point, i'm done
13:41 benkay thank you.
13:41 mike_c mircea_popescu: yes, humans (not omnipotent, not omniscient) do things like this.
13:41 danielpbarron the20year2: you are adding to the word; you don't know what God should or shouldn't have done
13:41 the20year2 Just quoting it from the book
13:41 danielpbarron you are saying what Christ should have done; who are you to reply against God?
13:42 mircea_popescu mike_c you're familiar with frame of reference. it can readily be argued that in that context, i am actually both.
13:42 mike_c readily? hardly. powerful and knowledgable is not omnipotent and omniscient.
13:42 mircea_popescu but in the context of a slavegirl and her universe, the master is both.
13:43 truffles she can stab u at any time
13:43 mircea_popescu that flows from the role definition, not much argument even.
13:43 mircea_popescu truffles not more than you can fly at any time.
13:43 the20year2 I posted on BTCtalk, but i'm thinking in light of what's going on with N&B and danny that we (RS) elect a special POA in case I disappear
13:43 mircea_popescu the20year2 just make sure it doesn't turn into a novel way to "sorry lost all the coins".
13:43 mike_c so god is just fucking with us so he can play out a power trip. hm.
13:44 the20year2 I've already contacted a liquidation specialist, and our corp atty to see what needs to be done, granted in real estate I've done it before plenty of times. That way if i was to get run over by a bus, die from too much blow, ect there'd be an automatic liquidation process that would go through
13:44 mircea_popescu mike_c you ascribe tho. slavery is not necessarily or even much about power tripping.
13:44 danielpbarron the Biblical concept of slavery is more of a business deal
13:44 truffles mike_c i dont think God needs to do that, thats what ppl like mp are for
13:45 mike_c well, then you are saying the slave is doing something useful. what are we doing that is useful for god?
13:45 mircea_popescu i am not saying that.
13:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 12 @ 0.01899873 = 0.228 BTC [+]
13:45 the20year2 A local landlord here hired a liquidation company for a few of her properties, in the end she got way more than I would have ever predicted
13:45 mike_c ok socrates, help me out :)
13:45 mircea_popescu how ?
13:45 mike_c what are you saying.
13:45 mircea_popescu i am saying that what you propose about god is within my own personal experience, and in the experience of people i know. this has factually happened.
13:46 mircea_popescu yet you presented it as an exercise in absurdity.
13:46 mircea_popescu well... it can't be that.
13:46 truffles u dont know her thoughts at all times for 1
13:46 tg2 ITT god trolls #bitocin-assets
13:47 mircea_popescu tg2 yeah you're getting a definite pay cut.
13:47 mike_c but you do those things for a reason. so unless god had a reason, the parallel is not there. i can not imagine what you are saying god's reason is.
13:47 the20year2 For those of you that live in europe, what does home insurance run?
13:47 SatoshiJack I believe the Son of God rocks for sure -- No one could kick Hercules's ass !
13:47 mircea_popescu mike_c you familiar with the cause/purpose distinction ?
13:47 mike_c i am aware there is a distinction.
13:47 tg2 too lazy to scroll up, what are we arguing about
13:47 mircea_popescu ok. ascribing a purpose to my actions is what frustrates the slavegirls, too.
13:48 the20year2 and tank girls?
13:48 mircea_popescu it's not accessible from their frame.
13:48 mike_c hm.
13:48 tg2 and then, unto his followers, he said, "scroll, and all shall become clear".
13:48 the20year2 lol
13:48 truffles Someone made the discussion about themself, why he is like God to his slave because he locks her up etc..
13:49 tg2 her = ?
13:49 tg2 somebody has a slavegirl?
13:49 mircea_popescu hismom. hence butthurt.
13:49 truffles supposedly
13:49 tg2 shit I better step my game up
13:49 tg2 hismom LOL
13:50 mircea_popescu tg2 http://trilema.com/2010/test-de-cultura-vizuala-8/ there, just for you.
13:50 the20year2 what silly language is that in?
13:50 the20year2 all the words look funny
13:50 truffles lol
13:50 mircea_popescu it's Funnyanian.
13:50 tg2 your romanian
13:50 tg2 is too heavily written
13:50 tg2 ;)
13:50 rithm you are
13:50 truffles its prob some easy language dont worry
13:50 rithm or the romanian belongs to someone
13:50 mike_c ok. so you are saying that chapter in genesis makes sense if we are god's slaves. i can accept that.
13:51 mircea_popescu mike_c im not saying it makes sense, i'm merely saying thaty your proposed explanation of why it wouldn't make sense is a description of what you didn't understand of it and nothing more.
13:51 truffles i cant
13:51 rithm r u guys talking about christianity
13:51 rithm why the fuck.
13:51 mircea_popescu whether it does or does not make sense, as far as your raa goes it might as well.
13:52 mircea_popescu rithm because i am evil and they are easily tempted.
13:52 tg2 #rekt
13:52 mircea_popescu same reason everything else happens in here.
13:52 truffles well i think i brought up the religion thing
13:52 tg2 mircea, do you even god?
13:52 rithm oic this is your fanciful game, not theirs
13:52 danielpbarron the master cannot neccessarily cause the slave to make choices; God can
13:52 truffles and some ppl ran with it
13:52 mircea_popescu danielpbarron tell that to the slave.
13:52 mike_c no, you are not saying it makes sense. but you are saying that it would make sense if we were god's slaves. there may be other explanations, but that is one possibility that makes sense. i'm pretty sure you said that.
13:52 tg2 god gave man free will
13:52 mircea_popescu mike_c sure.
13:52 danielpbarron a master can make a slave WISH he made a certain choice; God can literally cause the choice to be made
13:52 mircea_popescu like that it works.
13:53 tg2 so that he could judge him
13:53 mircea_popescu danielpbarron ever been a slave ?
13:53 tg2 obv
13:53 danielpbarron yes
13:53 truffles danielpbarron id agree with that
13:53 danielpbarron i am currently
13:53 mircea_popescu to whom ?
13:53 the20year2 daniel lives in western africa
13:53 rithm does god exist everywhere or not. I mean this whole omnipresence thing just makes me think I'm god.....
13:53 danielpbarron to Jesus and to the United States of America Corporation
13:53 tg2 where was it assumed that god can cause the choice to be made?
13:53 mircea_popescu danielpbarron well so there you go, your master can make you make a choice. qed.
13:54 danielpbarron yes, Jesus can
13:54 mircea_popescu luke's like gonna read this log and fall over.
13:54 tg2 lol
13:54 danielpbarron but that is not inherent in His role as master
13:54 the20year2 mircea_popescu: you've paid attention to this whole HFT thing, right?
13:54 mircea_popescu the20year2 sort-of.
13:54 the20year2 You were talking about it yesterday
13:54 danielpbarron Luke-Jr is on his way to hell; catholicism is a false religion
13:54 truffles lol
13:54 tg2 somebody ask assbot what he thinks on the matter
13:54 danielpbarron I hope he repents of course; it's not too late
13:54 mircea_popescu ;;coin
13:54 gribble heads
13:54 the20year2 I'm curious, how many catholics do you personally know and talk to daniel?
13:55 danielpbarron i know at least one "irl" but probably more
13:55 tg2 none, they are all hethens
13:55 tg2 amirite
13:55 the20year2 how often do you talk to them about catholicism?
13:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00096154 = 19.0385 BTC [+] {2}
13:55 tg2 I married a catholic and didn't get married in a church, does that make me OK?
13:55 mircea_popescu tg2 did you gangbang afterwards ?
13:55 danielpbarron often enough to know that most catholics don't even believe their own false dogma, let alone the real Gospel
13:55 jborkl what God is the correct one, I need to make sure to pick correctly- kinda important.
13:56 tg2 mircea_popescu, with holy water as lube
13:56 the20year2 What's your sample size daniel?
13:56 danielpbarron jborkl: the Jesus Christ of the Bible (see: http://atruechurch.info/ )
13:56 mircea_popescu holy shit this is a brilliant idea
13:56 tg2 if it's catholic holy waters, does that make it ok?
13:56 mircea_popescu sell holy lube!
13:56 pankkake jborkl: this one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=271711.0
13:56 jborkl What happens to everyone that picked the wrong one?
13:56 mircea_popescu god damn it i got pankkake -rolled into reading my own consecration thread.
13:56 the20year2 who's site is that daniel?
13:56 truffles fail religious ppl dont ejac
13:56 danielpbarron the20year2: I'm not claiming any scientific rigor here
13:57 tg2 may thy fornication be lubricous
13:57 danielpbarron the20year2: Darwin Fish
13:57 cryptolemming Hi, I'm new here, would just like to introduce we will be announcing a pre-launch of our dice-inspired games casino in the coming weeks. Will be around here a bit in the meantime and likely moreso after launch.
13:57 pankkake it's more of a MPOE-PR consecration
13:57 the20year2 you're just making a statement of 1.2 billion people based on a few you know
13:57 tg2 and unto thee, god said "adulterers and fornicators rejoice, as my gift to thee I bestow the holiest of librification"
13:57 the20year2 "Everyone is wrong but us!"
13:57 mircea_popescu anyway, in a doomed effort to improve the porn-to-text ratio of this god forsaken channel, i present you
13:57 mircea_popescu http://37.media.tumblr.com/088d6d825684af5af652308ec79f8160/tumblr_mhtyo5sIsL1qa258ao1_1280.jpg
13:57 mircea_popescu cryptolemming nice name. welcome.
13:58 tg2 and sodomites
13:58 danielpbarron the20year2: none of the catholics i've met "irl" actually believe the catholic dogma; and NO CATHOLIC EVER has believed the entire Bible
13:58 tg2 ;;ident
13:58 gribble Nick 'tg2', with hostmask 'tg2!~tg2@205.204.66.35', is not identified.
13:58 cryptolemming thank you glad to be here, figure it's about time I learned how to navigate IRC chat etc
13:58 tg2 ;;gpg eauth tg2
13:58 gribble Request successful for user tg2, hostmask tg2!~tg2@205.204.66.35. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/31FAA963C3333333
13:58 mircea_popescu cryptolemming so what's your name and who are "we" ?
13:58 jborkl you can tell she has not been there long, she has not shit in the corner yet
13:58 pankkake https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Slave_at_St._Andrews_cross_(3092).jpg/768px-Slave_at_St._Andrews_cross_(3092).jpg probably more related to the discussion
13:58 mircea_popescu jborkl whoa sometimes you scare me.
13:58 the20year2 danielpbarron: That's interesting because i know at least one who does
13:59 jborkl lol
13:59 tg2 ;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:e55810a88948699504563318b2939d86ba323f6e556adead185d3cb6
13:59 danielpbarron the20year2: does what? believe the false catholic dogma?
13:59 gribble You are now authenticated for user tg2 with key 31FAA963C3333333
13:59 the20year2 but my sample size is of about 15 catholics
13:59 truffles whoa thats a lot dude
13:59 cryptolemming Ali Ayoub, 'we' includes 2 deveopers, one backend - yellowdog from satoshirat, and frontend - qwyz
13:59 the20year2 When you say 'whole bible' do you mean exactly as you interpet it?
13:59 cryptolemming *developers
13:59 mircea_popescu cryptolemming ah i recall you. so get in the wot ?
13:59 danielpbarron the20year2: yes, the Bible says believers will be of "one mind"
14:00 cryptolemming I believe so, authoriz etc although no history etc
14:00 the20year2 But if it's literal that means all christians share the exact same physical brain, if you believe in strict literal interpetation
14:00 truffles danielpbarron now ure of one mind with the church of bitcoin!!
14:00 mircea_popescu and they don;t ?
14:00 danielpbarron the20year2: it doesn't say "one brain"
14:00 nubbins` nothing lulzier than people talking about the bible as it's translated into English
14:00 mircea_popescu nubbins` i did mention latrin dun haet.
14:01 nubbins` you're exempt!
14:01 danielpbarron i will dump bitcoin in a second if circumstances change
14:01 the20year2 what circumstances?
14:01 danielpbarron whatever
14:01 truffles ye of little faith
14:01 assbot Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1770700/plain/)
14:01 mircea_popescu !b 3
14:01 the20year2 If the leader of your church says to?
14:01 mircea_popescu damn truffles.
14:01 danielpbarron my point is; bitcoin is not eternal, not worth going to hell over
14:01 truffles owned
14:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00096072 = 10.2317 BTC [-] {2}
14:01 nubbins` whenever someone claims "the bible says x" and they don't speak greek or hebrew, it's actually okay to hit them in the face
14:01 asciilifeform hellcoin
14:01 the20year2 so why are you here?
14:01 mircea_popescu asciilifeform mined by proof of smoke ?
14:01 nubbins` ^
14:01 nubbins` hahah
14:02 the20year2 hebrew and greek certainly bring a whole new aspect to reading the bible
14:02 nubbins` burning-bushchain
14:02 asciilifeform proof-of-torment
14:02 nubbins` the20year2: it could be successfully argued that english is what brings a new aspect to it.
14:02 danielpbarron the20year2: i like Bitcoin at the moment
14:02 the20year2 mircea_popescu: reason i asked about HFT was this is on the 1st page of reddit - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-03/bats-admits-ceo-lied-about-hft-cnbc
14:02 mircea_popescu nubbins` actually, greek, aramaic and latin. hebrew is more like... you know, the sort of boxed edition they release 10 years after the movie.
14:02 nubbins` heeh
14:02 nubbins` fair
14:02 mircea_popescu the20year2 what specifically about it ?
14:03 mike_c https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=414857.0
14:03 ozbot [ANN] [GOD] Jesuscoin Scrypt New Altcoin
14:03 danielpbarron ew
14:03 nubbins` i'm actually working on a project right now, silkscreening a copy of the gospel according to mark in scriptio continua
14:03 mircea_popescu that boxed edition where you discover the supersexy voice actress is a 4 foot 6 troll.
14:03 nubbins` let me find a page
14:04 mircea_popescu mike_c i wonder if they have jesuscoin jesusi
14:04 the20year2 just that they stated he lied
14:04 nubbins` http://imgur.com/EOdFATK
14:04 ozbot imgur: the simple image sharer
14:04 mike_c lol. maybe they can get ver to convert
14:04 nubbins` ^ source material
14:05 cryptolemming so a rather eclectic collection of conversation points here I take it, look forward to getting to know some of you better in time. for now, I'll resist the temptation to bring up neo & bee, if not primarily bc I can only assume it's been discussed to ends.
14:05 nubbins` the guy who's financing this project is scribing the whole fucking thing by hand
14:05 mircea_popescu cryptolemming kinda. you know how to pull up the logs ?
14:06 cryptolemming I do not, will be making friends with the help menu in the coming week.
14:06 mircea_popescu !topic
14:06 mircea_popescu eh fu assbot.
14:06 mircea_popescu ;;topic
14:06 gribble http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com
14:06 cryptolemming okay great thanks
14:10 cryptolemming ;;topic
14:10 gribble http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com
14:11 cryptolemming ;;neo
14:11 gribble Error: "neo" is not a valid command.
14:11 cryptolemming trial and error ftw
14:11 mircea_popescu !t h neobee
14:11 assbot Um, shouldn't you be with your own tribe or somethin'?
14:11 mircea_popescu seriously ?!
14:11 mircea_popescu !t h rent
14:11 assbot [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00750000 / 0.0075 / 0.00750000 (163 shares, 1.22250000 BTC), 7D: 0.00610000 / 0.00742383 / 0.00750000 (18519 shares, 137.48186661 BTC), 30D: 0.00510111 / 0.00623288 / 0.00900001 (53660 shares, 334.45651440 BTC)
14:12 cryptolemming will continue to lurk and take my newb spam to private, cheers
14:13 mike_c !t h neobeeq
14:13 assbot [HAVELOCK:NEOBEEQ] 1D: / 0 / (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00185115 / 0.00207117 / 0.00242900 (6618 shares, 13.70700255 BTC), 30D: 0.00155000 / 0.00330782 / 0.00450000 (425696 shares, 1408.12547591 BTC)
14:13 mircea_popescu what sorceryq is thisq ?!
14:13 mike_c they changed the symbol
14:13 wywialm_ mircea_popescu, bible and latin? you sure?
14:13 mircea_popescu wywialm_ thomas.
14:14 wywialm_ which thomas? still not getting it
14:15 mircea_popescu Thomas Aquinas, Doctor Angelicus, Doctor Communis, Doctor Universalis.
14:18 numerisTrade well, ok, he commented the latin translation, but still translation and not the original - i thought nubbins` referred to original languages
14:19 mircea_popescu latin is as much an orginal language of the bible as greek is.
14:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00096053 = 16.329 BTC [-] {2}
14:20 mircea_popescu "translation" has to be taken with a grain of salt in this context. it's not what we're used with.
14:20 wywialm_ please expain
14:20 wywialm_ explain*
14:20 truffles this has lasted longer than the other boring topic wierdness!
14:21 mircea_popescu well, a set of texts which was originally written in mostly aramaic has been transalted. for the eastern church, centered around byzantium and the eastern dioceses, in greek.
14:21 mircea_popescu for the western church, centered around rome and the western (mostly, gaulish) dioceses in latin.
14:21 mircea_popescu these are very much equally so "originals" even if the two bibles are only considered the same item for the sake of laziness.
14:22 mircea_popescu otherwise the story of the irreducible differences would easily fill the libraries. which it had been filling, 500 to 1500 ad.
14:22 mircea_popescu fortunately people found better inanity to bother with
14:23 mircea_popescu such as ipads and what was jane doe wearing under her skirt.
14:24 kakobrekla >Popescu's best buddy the Frenchman pankkake is also in this deep. He has taken money from MP to carryout attacks on all things not MPEx. Pankkake knows enough to put MP behind bars for blackmail, extortion, commercial attacks. If the FBI put pressure on pankkake he will talk. The French bow to pressure very easily. Always have.
14:24 truffles sick
14:24 mircea_popescu pankkake awww, sammy, you'd sing ?! under pressure ?!
14:24 pankkake I've dealt with a lot of stupid on the interebs but this is… I don't even want to reply to the thing
14:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.06299999 = 0.882 BTC [+] {2}
14:25 truffles the insult about being french?
14:25 pankkake I got out trolled
14:25 mircea_popescu pankkake you lose.
14:25 mircea_popescu ;;google translate "nu te pune cu prostu' ca are mintea odihnita"
14:25 gribble (google translate <from-language> [to] <to-language> <text>) -- Returns <text> translated from <from-language> into <to-language>. Beware that translating to or from languages that use multi-byte characters may result in some very odd results.
14:26 mircea_popescu ;;google translate romanian english "nu te pune cu prostu' ca are mintea odihnita"
14:26 gribble Error: Google says: Response Status 403: Please use Translate v2. See http://code.google.com/apis/language/translate/overview.html.
14:26 mircea_popescu derp.
14:26 pankkake the best is that the two found each other in their desperation - they both lost a lot in scams, and made a common merged enemy
14:27 truffles some1 found u as easy bait lol
14:27 mircea_popescu i just hope nobody takes offense at the bff suggestion. i love lots of you just as much!
14:28 truffles Napoleon wasnt weak why dont they mention him?
14:28 pankkake apparently I also know a lot of stuff
14:28 mircea_popescu anyway, i wonder what the root of this imaginary crime of "commercial attacks" is supposed to be. a mistranslation or something ?
14:29 pankkake but stuartuk is supposed to be from the uk
14:29 pankkake they really like the competition, antitrust, whatever, laws, it seems
14:29 mircea_popescu how is neobee supposed to be a competitor for anyone again ?
14:29 mircea_popescu weren't they very limited geographically ?
14:30 truffles neobee envy?
14:31 mircea_popescu maybe that's most of what's reported in the press they read, so that's what they think about.
14:31 mircea_popescu tbh it'd be kinda flattering for mpex to get sued by some antitrust regulator.
14:31 pankkake indeed
14:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 999 @ 0.00039819 = 0.3978 BTC [-] {5}
14:35 mircea_popescu anyway, why so much racism ?
14:36 mircea_popescu im sure the british would sing under pressure as much as teh french.
14:36 truffles i think the word u seek is prejudice
14:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 612 @ 0.00086381 = 0.5287 BTC [-] {2}
14:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 388 @ 0.00084103 = 0.3263 BTC [-] {3}
14:39 wywialm_ french is different race than british
14:40 truffles u mean country?
14:40 danielpbarron there is one human race; genetic differences are minor
14:41 HeySteve one human species, many races
14:42 ThickAsThieves dafuck, Havelock is gonna resume neo trading?
14:42 wywialm_ i mean irony, mircea_popescu means race if the french bow stuff is racism :)
14:42 pankkake The Fund will now be designated as NEOBEEQ to reflect the uncertainty of the future of LMB Holdings
14:43 kakobrekla q as questionable?
14:43 ThickAsThieves i dont even...
14:43 mircea_popescu why not D ?
14:43 truffles heh apparently "race" might have french origins hmm
14:43 pankkake just rename it to "SOMETHING"
14:43 pankkake or "WHATEVER"
14:43 ThickAsThieves or "GIVEUSTRADEFEES"
14:44 pankkake that migth explain the decision :(
14:44 ThickAsThieves do they even lawyer?
14:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.60005 = 1.2001 BTC [-] {2}
14:45 danielpbarron HeySteve: that's called racism
14:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 33 @ 0.0075 = 0.2475 BTC [+]
14:45 mircea_popescu both anglosaxons and french claled themselves a "race" in the 18th-19th century
14:45 mircea_popescu so i can hide behind that.
14:45 truffles caucasian,mongoloid,negroid,australoid
14:47 mircea_popescu so wait, you can now trade the suspended neobee symbol by trading neobeeq ?
14:47 thestringpuller ...
14:47 thestringpuller can havelock just implode already so i can win my bet...
14:47 mike_c not for two hours. anticipation!
14:47 pankkake cryptostocks is still running so…
14:48 pankkake running scams doesn't seem to change much
14:48 mircea_popescu is nefario on the advisory board of havelock or is stupidity just this copy/pasta by nature ?
14:48 pankkake perhaps cryptostocks isn't as high profile
14:48 mircea_popescu this is EXACTLY the goat suspension of 2012, by the book.
14:48 mircea_popescu just as laughable, actually, benkay you may wanna do a side by side comparison.
14:49 pankkake I like how the Q looks http://i.imgur.com/Mgixn0A.png
14:51 mike_c and the goat suspension of 2014. cog is trading again too
14:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 601 @ 0.0075 = 4.5075 BTC [+]
14:52 benkay goat suspension?
14:52 benkay i didn't know he hung from hooks.
14:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 167 @ 0.06007661 = 10.0328 BTC [-] {8}
14:57 mircea_popescu cog is nominally not goat's.
14:58 truffles gribble doesnt like assets
14:58 truffles and other places nm
14:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 48.55606712 BTC to 80`674 shares, 60188 satoshi per share
15:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.038 = 0.114 BTC [+]
15:02 benkay ;;google whet emotions
15:03 kanzure is there any rule 34 fan art of mozilla monster killing homos'
15:04 nubbins` <mircea_popescu> pankkake awww, sammy, you'd sing ?! under pressure ?!
15:04 nubbins` but would it sound as good as freddie? pictures of your teeth plz
15:04 thestringpuller !last m s.mpoe
15:04 assbot Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00096053 BTC [-]
15:04 pankkake replace pressure by alcohol and I will sing
15:05 truffles happy drunk ftw
15:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.06085714 = 0.426 BTC [-] {3}
15:07 truffles does a pankkake drink expensive alcohol?
15:07 nubbins` http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXOOwNS2qk0
15:07 ozbot QUEEN - Under Pressure (Live At Wembley Stadium 1986) - YouTube
15:07 pankkake wikipedia deleted an article I wrote years ago, which passed the deletion test once… but that time it was quick and sneaky
15:07 pankkake also deleted the MP ones
15:08 pankkake -s
15:08 pankkake delete all the things!
15:08 asciilifeform and i had the honour of being publicly beheaded as a spammer there.
15:08 pankkake truffles: I like belgian beer, not that expensive
15:08 truffles meh beer sucks
15:08 truffles what else
15:08 pankkake le rouge qui tache
15:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.0591275 = 0.473 BTC [-] {3}
15:10 truffles well that guy on the bottle..
15:11 truffles nm alcohol what about cheese
15:11 pankkake oh there's one actually called that. it's an expression
15:11 pankkake I don't especially like cheese. I'm nota true French
15:11 truffles i can see that
15:12 truffles what does the expression mean then
15:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.05805 = 0.1161 BTC [-] {2}
15:12 truffles google says "red that stains"
15:13 pankkake basic red wine
15:13 truffles ok
15:13 truffles whatever is presented eh
15:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0615 = 0.123 BTC [+]
15:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17250 @ 0.00096021 = 16.5636 BTC [-] {2}
15:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 1857 @ 0.00007931 = 0.1473 BTC [-] {4}
15:15 pankkake I have some preferences but hard to describe them. general preference to bitterness and high vicosity
15:15 pankkake what about you?
15:16 pankkake where is Vexual by the way?
15:16 truffles sweet
15:16 pankkake ;;seen Vexual
15:16 gribble Vexual was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 weeks, 1 day, 20 hours, and 9 seconds ago: <Vexual> lasers in the eye is never good tat
15:16 truffles or fruity
15:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.602 BTC [+]
15:17 benkay pankkake: http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=81
15:18 truffles id like to go to macau!
15:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0574998 = 0.115 BTC [-]
15:20 truffles gambaler's paradise!
15:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0574998 = 0.1725 BTC [-]
15:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20700 @ 0.00096014 = 19.8749 BTC [-] {2}
15:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 34 @ 0.01899891 = 0.646 BTC [+] {2}
15:30 pLambert got a mail from Havelock, re NEOBEE "Trading will resume today at 5:00 PM EST"
15:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27300 @ 0.00096304 = 26.291 BTC [+] {5}
15:33 pankkake but will they clear the order book?
15:33 pLambert I think they already did clear out the order books, all my old orders are gone
15:33 ThickAsThieves pankkake, i assume that's partly why they changed the tickert
15:33 mgio what do you predict the price will go to, say, in an hour?
15:34 pLambert now it is NEOBEEQ, the q is for questionable
15:34 mgio should be NEOBEE.Q
15:34 ThickAsThieves ridiculousness
15:34 pLambert I predict it will go down an order of magnitude
15:34 ThickAsThieves make a bitbet, quick!
15:34 pankkake hm probably, even bots would fail on it
15:34 pLambert does bitbet let you make bets that quick?
15:34 mgio like 0.00019?
15:35 mgio its not even worth me selling anymore, sigh
15:35 dexX7 fyi: ukyo's claim portal is open again.. i was able to get my 6 %
15:35 benkay` neo be queer
15:35 pLambert last was something like .0019, so yeah, something like that
15:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.06065 = 0.1213 BTC [+] {2}
15:38 ThickAsThieves i dunno, liquidity will be very thin, i wouldnt be surprised to see much lower
15:38 pLambert I bet it will be pretty wildly volatile
15:39 Mats_cd03 huhuhu
15:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 34 @ 0.0562674 = 1.9131 BTC [-] {8}
15:39 pLambert or else it will just drop like a rock and stick at .000000001
15:39 pLambert hmm, I think that is one extra 0, but you get the idea
15:39 mgio nah, i would buy it at that price lol
15:39 pankkake or havelol will not be able to handle the load
15:40 ThickAsThieves havelol, lol
15:40 pLambert anybody want to bet on how soon after 5:00 Havelock goes ofline from the high load?
15:40 ThickAsThieves good point though
15:40 mgio if it dropped to 0.00005 or below, i'd it all up
15:40 ThickAsThieves the site has gotten very boggy
15:40 pankkake when cog started again it was quite slow
15:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 42 @ 0.01891708 = 0.7945 BTC [-] {3}
15:42 kakobrekla huge volume according to surfer
15:47 ThickAsThieves scamfer
15:49 mike_c kakobrekla props. bitbet works amazingly well with javascript turned off.
15:49 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
15:53 kakobrekla :)
15:54 mike_c pls stop setting the bar so high.
15:54 kakobrekla lol
15:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0555 = 0.2775 BTC [-] {3}
15:58 Namworld [11:53] <nubbins`> literally, he will cripple himself before the first 10k is up
15:59 Namworld common, that's a gross exaggeration.
15:59 Namworld 10k isn't a lot
16:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.038 = 0.38 BTC [+]
16:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.05327278 = 1.172 BTC [-] {3}
16:03 benkay` ;;lasers
16:03 gribble ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
16:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05999999 = 0.18 BTC [+]
16:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05440005 = 0.544 BTC [-] {4}
16:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.05275 = 0.211 BTC [-] {3}
16:08 Apocalyptic .d
16:08 ozbot 5.007 billion | Next Diff in 115 blocks | Estimated Change: 21.5596% in 0d 14h 58m 37s
16:08 Namworld Okay, admitedly, 80k in a short timespan would be impossible for an average, untrained person.
16:08 Namworld But the average human can certainly sustain more than 10k before running out of energy.
16:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.052 = 0.156 BTC [-]
16:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 76 @ 0.05161841 = 3.923 BTC [-] {3}
16:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00096536 = 8.3021 BTC [+]
16:11 nubbins` Namworld, i'm not talking about running out of energy
16:11 nubbins` i'm talking about injuring himself :D
16:11 Namworld Injuring himself how?
16:11 nubbins` go pick someone out of a crowd and tell them to run 10k, then ask them how their legs and feet feel afterward
16:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.0609 = 0.2436 BTC [+]
16:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.051 = 1.071 BTC [-] {2}
16:12 Namworld Tired? Not injured?
16:13 nubbins` heh
16:13 nubbins` well why don't you just take ALL the wind outta my sails
16:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 142 @ 0.05 = 7.1 BTC [-] {4}
16:14 nubbins` either way, we can both agree that doing a double marathon cold is an incredibly stupid idea
16:14 Namworld I give him 20-40k in with slowing down/breaks by the time it ends.
16:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.048 = 0.144 BTC [-]
16:16 nubbins` that's generous!
16:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.04905714 = 1.0302 BTC [+] {3}
16:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24000 @ 0.00096609 = 23.1862 BTC [+] {2}
16:16 mike_c how long? 12, 13 hours?
16:17 Namworld idk, I could randomly go and walk 8-10k at a fast pace when I was a kid. About 15 min per kilometer. Except that time at the end of the school year. Year was officially over but everyone was hanging around waiting for buses. I packed all my locker in my bag and just left on foot. Walked 10 kilometers on foot in like 30C temp on a sunny afternoon and stopped at the library about 1k before
16:17 Namworld home to drink and read and cool of with the AC..
16:17 Namworld Now that time my legs felt dead and I was walking at a crawl by the end.
16:17 Namworld But I had my bag stretched from carrying all my books at once.
16:18 Namworld That guy says he goes to the gym unregularly and he's in uni it seems? I'm really not sporty on the other end.
16:19 Namworld He's young and probably taller and in better shape than me in mid highschool.
16:19 thestringpuller damn Namworld that is gangsta
16:19 Namworld 20-40k isn't generous.
16:19 Namworld I feel it's fair
16:19 thestringpuller how much did the stuff weigh that was in your locker?
16:19 thestringpuller just books and stuff?
16:19 Namworld Humans are literally built for endurance.
16:20 Namworld Eh, not sure. A few large manuals, binders of notes, etc. It wasn't a full locker, I think I had emptied some of it another day. The whole wouldn't have fitted in the bag.
16:21 Namworld But you know, a schoolbag fitted with so much you have to hammer the last books in and it looks like a stretched block afterward.
16:22 nubbins` he can't walk 40k
16:22 nubbins` he'd be out there for like 10 hours
16:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00096639 = 9.5673 BTC [+]
16:24 nubbins` http://www.coindesk.com/canadian-government-end-mintchip-digital-currency-program/
16:24 Namworld I didn't say he'd walk them. Although he'd probably wouldn't be able to run very fast either.
16:25 nubbins` https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=NEOBEEQ
16:25 Namworld I mean by the time the whole event is over he'd be maybe 25-50% of the way through?
16:25 nubbins` my guess is no more than 25%
16:25 nubbins` which is still a half marathon
16:26 nubbins` my sides @ neobeeq
16:27 mike_c 30 minutes to the opening bell
16:27 Namworld If I could walk 10km with a large charge on my back in ~3hours I'm sure someone in uni can sprint 20-40k during the event. How long does it even last?
16:27 mircea_popescu <mike_c> kakobrekla props. bitbet works amazingly well with javascript turned off. << javascript can be turned on ?~
16:27 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
16:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05662335 = 0.1699 BTC [+]
16:28 Namworld At a bare minimum, 20k. 40k is really an upper bound depending on how much his "occasional" means for going to the gym.
16:29 mike_c mircea_popescu: aw, i know you use JS. you've been on my site :)
16:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05902474 = 0.2951 BTC [+] {2}
16:31 mircea_popescu mike_c sooo ?
16:32 mike_c i didn't think you could post a comment without JS on mine, but looks like you can. nevermind, your reputation is secure.
16:33 nubbins` "var should be enough for anybody"
16:33 mircea_popescu your local antitrust authority has been notified about your commercial attack practices.
16:33 mircea_popescu expect to be extradited to romania.
16:34 nubbins` http://www.npr.org/2014/01/13/262175399/is-16-and-pregnant-an-effective-form-of-birth-control
16:34 ozbot Is '16 And Pregnant' An Effective Form Of Birth Control? : NPR
16:34 nubbins` lel
16:34 BingoBoingo https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=557436.msg6073507#msg6073507
16:34 ozbot Hey Bigbitz - this is for you.
16:36 nubbins` "You can go fuck yourself for the 2 BTC gift you gave me"
16:36 grahvity|desktop neobee trading resumes this afternoon https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=NEOBEEQ
16:36 mircea_popescu grahvity|desktop check the logs eh ?
16:36 grahvity|desktop didn't know whether I was being helpful or not
16:37 mircea_popescu that's why you check the logs :)
16:37 grahvity|desktop mobile
16:37 jurov making a zombie from it...quite original solution
16:37 grahvity|desktop :/
16:37 ThickAsThieves http://www.coindesk.com/canadian-government-end-mintchip-digital-currency-program/
16:37 mircea_popescu mp petitions bingo to switch to .lk links
16:38 nubbins` grahvity|desktop: your mobile doesn't have a web browser? :0
16:38 moiety mew all :) just catching up
16:38 nubbins` ThickAsThieves: check the logs eh?
16:38 grahvity|desktop using an app
16:39 mircea_popescu nubbins` :D
16:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0614 = 0.1228 BTC [+]
16:39 ThickAsThieves shit!
16:39 nubbins` ;D
16:39 grahvity|desktop cheers, guys
16:39 nubbins` BOTH OF YA
16:39 BingoBoingo Petition acknowledged
16:40 mircea_popescu "Then we came across a quote by [CEO] Sarah Brown at the National Campaign to Prevent Teen and Unplanned Pregnancy and she speculated that this show was having an effect."
16:41 mircea_popescu how the fuck do they reason to come to the conclusion preventing teen pregnancy is a worthwhile thing to do
16:41 nubbins` "then we watched the show and it was many say so she is right"
16:41 moiety BingoBoingo: ty!! i have new desktopmanul nao :D
16:41 nubbins` *many sad
16:41 BingoBoingo moiety: Ur welcome
16:41 jurov inb4 manulcoin
16:41 moiety lol micrea, that was a pekinese... much uglier than my manuls
16:41 moiety mircea_popescu*
16:41 nubbins` it's actually spelled marsellus
16:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.60849999 = 1.217 BTC [+] {2}
16:42 mircea_popescu marsellus goldstein whateveritwas
16:42 pankkake what about miscrea
16:43 nubbins` hmm
16:43 moiety BingoBoingo: i think i have found a good domain
16:43 BingoBoingo oh
16:43 moiety ach weesht im spelling everything backwards today :D
16:43 moiety BingoBoingo: felin.ae (i can add pampas cats this way)
16:44 nubbins` ;;google .ae tld
16:44 gribble .ae - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.ae>; IANA — .ae Domain Delegation Data: <http://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/ae.html>; ae Domains - International Domain Registration: <http://www.101domain.com/ae.htm>
16:44 moiety manul speak would just be "fuck you"
16:44 nubbins` ah, UAE
16:44 moiety yarp
16:45 pankkake I want .æ!
16:45 moiety some twat has all the manul.pallas cat domains and hasnt done anything with them for years
16:45 nubbins` pankkake XD
16:45 moiety pankkake: they are really cheap
16:45 nubbins` where the fuck do all the rulers keep disappearing to around here?!
16:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31800 @ 0.00096639 = 30.7312 BTC [+]
16:46 Luke-Jr danielpbarron: no, Catholicism is the only true religion
16:46 danielpbarron Luke-Jr: http://www.atruechurch.info/catholicism.html
16:46 nubbins` ah, my sides.
16:46 mircea_popescu http://31.media.tumblr.com/e6dc76047ffec4f107c5d9e99de80c14/tumblr_ml1px0eVbl1sn68hmo1_1280.jpg
16:46 nubbins` THE ONLY TRUE RELIGION
16:47 nubbins` "using a 5lb sledge is the only true way to smash your dick"
16:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05400011 = 0.27 BTC [-]
16:48 Luke-Jr danielpbarron: this page is of the devil, full of lies
16:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0540001 = 0.108 BTC [-]
16:49 Luke-Jr danielpbarron: shall I go through it lie by lie?
16:50 danielpbarron yes, please
16:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.05999986 = 0.24 BTC [+]
16:50 Luke-Jr On the inside dust jacket of Pope John Paul's book, Crossing The Threshold Of Hope (copyright 1994, Alfred A. Knopf, Inc., New York), the Pope's message is, "Be not afraid!" <-- there was never any "Pope John Paul" in the Catholic Church
16:50 Luke-Jr the Catholic is nonetheless following a "stranger" (i.e. Catholicism) and not Christ <-- Catholicism is Christ
16:51 Luke-Jr Roman Catholicism is a false religion with deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons (1 Timothy 4:1-3), a false gospel, a false Jesus, idolatry, and damning lies. <-- false
16:51 thestringpuller oh it's Luke-Jr have you been on holiday? :P
16:52 danielpbarron Luke-Jr: http://www.amazon.com/Crossing-Threshold-Hope-Pope-John/dp/0679765611
16:52 mike_c paging cmyers for a three way deathmatch
16:52 Luke-Jr In this text that describes those who have departed from the faith and given heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, there are only two teachings given ("forbidding to marry" and "to abstain from foods") by which to identify the ones to whom this text applies. The Roman Catholic Church practices both identifying marks. <-- these two evils are named because they were already being taught by heretical sects; but they do not mean
16:52 Luke-Jr what this webpage wants you to beleive they mean
16:53 Luke-Jr the heretical sects Timothy was writing about, forbade marriage *completely*, etc
16:53 danielpbarron Luke-Jr: "Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith" <-- written in future tense as in something that hadn't happened yet
16:53 Luke-Jr In the official Catechism of the Catholic Church (Libreria Editrice Vaticana, copyright 1994, Ignatius Press, San Francisco, CA) on page 395 under #1580, speaking in the context of "priests" it states: <-- 1) there is no such approved catechism; 2) note the *context of priests*
16:55 Luke-Jr danielpbarron: He speaks of the Gnostics, the Marcionites, the Eneratites, the Manicheans, and other ancient heretics, who absolutely condemned marriage, and the use of all kind of meat; because they pretended that all flesh was from an evil principle. Whereas the church of God, so far from condemning marriage, holds it a holy sacrament; and forbids it to none but such as by vow have chosen the better part: and prohibits not the use of any
16:55 Luke-Jr meats whatsoever in proper times and seasons; though she does not judge all kind of diet proper for days of fasting and penance.
16:57 Luke-Jr danielpbarron: furthermore, the Church's laws about abstinence from meat on certain days, goes back to the Apostles; they were already in place and Timothy practiced them himself
16:57 Luke-Jr obviously he was not condemning the Church he was a bishop of
16:57 danielpbarron penance 1. voluntary self-punishment inflicted as an outward expression of repentance for having done wrong. 2. a Christian sacrament in which a member of the Church confesses sins to a priest and is given absolution.
16:57 Luke-Jr They deem Muslims as having salvation <-- this is not true
16:57 Duffer1 uh
16:58 mike_c plus Jesus himself explicitly founded the catholic church with Peter as pope, so there's that.
16:58 Duffer1 lmao
16:58 danielpbarron absolution: 1. formal release from guilt, obligation, or punishment.
16:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 56 @ 0.00579997 = 0.3248 BTC [+] {3}
16:59 Luke-Jr Scripture nowhere teaches any such sacraments necessary for salvation. <-- Scripture does not teach; Christ appointed the Church to do that. Furthermore, Scripture *does* record Christ Himself mandating Baptism.
16:59 moiety i thought gay people were forbidden to marry
16:59 mike_c i'm waiting for one of you to forget to capitalize a name or pronoun here and go straight to hell.
16:59 Luke-Jr moiety: gay people are condemned to Hell unless they repent
17:00 Duffer1 o.0
17:00 Duffer1 ecc 9:5
17:00 mike_c luke must use firefox
17:00 moiety ergo, also being forbidden from marriage, right?
17:00 cazalla neobee is live
17:00 locksmith cazalla it's not, it still says trading is halted on havelock
17:01 Luke-Jr As should be seen from the above, the wafer and the wine is the Catholic Jesus. And this Catholic Jesus (a piece of bread and some wine) is worshipped. This is idolatry. <-- worshipping God Himself is not idolatry.
17:01 locksmith or I'm seeing a cached page
17:01 cazalla locksmith: refresh
17:01 Luke-Jr moiety: even heathen can contract a natural marriage
17:01 mike_c first trades, 1 satoshi!
17:01 locksmith oh shit you're right
17:01 pLambert wow, lots going for 1 satoshi
17:01 Namworld lol, 1 satoshi
17:02 nubbins` he's got ya there, the wafer and wine is supposed to be jesus' flesh and blood in another form
17:02 locksmith NEOBEEQ what the fuck's the Q
17:02 nubbins` transubstantiation, as if you needed another reason to lel
17:02 Duffer1 ^
17:02 nubbins` locksmith: the Q is whether you'll get any of your money back
17:02 mircea_popescu it's short for Q.Q
17:02 rithm Q is for Quark
17:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1642 @ 0.00008745 = 0.1436 BTC [+] {6}
17:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 291 @ 0.00084015 = 0.2445 BTC [-]
17:02 mircea_popescu which is the int'l sign for butttears.
17:02 * moiety isn't sure what she has pressed but now typing with a black box for a cursor
17:02 nubbins` "insert"
17:02 Luke-Jr Scripture nowhere says what the Catholics teach. Nowhere does the Word of God say anything about the bread (or wine) becoming anything. <-- nor is Scripture the authority; however, it DOES document Christ saying that we MUST eat His Flesh to be saved
17:02 nubbins` moiety ^
17:02 mircea_popescu !t h neobeeq
17:03 assbot [HAVELOCK:NEOBEEQ] 1D: 0.00000001 / 2.191E-5 / 0.00010000 (14697 shares, 0.32204988 BTC), 7D: 0.00000001 / 2.191E-5 / 0.00010000 (14697 shares, 0.32204988 BTC), 30D: 0.00000001 / 0.0031977 / 0.00450000 (440226 shares, 1407.70958942 BTC)
17:03 locksmith who's even buying this shit
17:03 moiety epic thanks nubbins`
17:03 mircea_popescu locksmith your local antitrust authority has been notified about your commercial attack practices.
17:03 mircea_popescu expect to be extradited to romania.
17:03 Luke-Jr moiety: of course, marriage is still always to someone of the opposite sex. so it doesn't necessarily make sense that a gay person *would* marry.
17:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3582 @ 0.00006394 = 0.229 BTC [-] {8}
17:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00579498 = 0.1738 BTC [-]
17:03 locksmith lol what are you talking about mircea?
17:03 jurov Oh yes, Loving God Father, in His infinite wisdom, created humanity and then condemned most of it to eternal suffering.
17:04 jurov Makes perfect sense.
17:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2585 @ 0.00009999 = 0.2585 BTC [+] {12}
17:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 159 @ 0.00084015 = 0.1336 BTC [-]
17:04 Luke-Jr Catholicism is further entrenched in idolatry in the veneration of the saints. <-- the saints are not adored; there is no idolatry here either; furthermore, one cannot worship a saint without also worshipping God at the same time, since the saint's virtue all comes from God
17:04 Duffer1 i skimmed the logs but have been unable to determine what precipitated this asinine conversation
17:04 cazalla locksmith: you can't talk down neobee you troll
17:05 Duffer1 why luke b trollin ?
17:05 danielpbarron Luke-Jr: can you please cite scripture to back your claims
17:05 locksmith cazalla watch me :)
17:05 locksmith I actually know the people at neo
17:05 cazalla locksmith: better get a lawyer son
17:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1556 @ 0.00010704 = 0.1666 BTC [+] {16}
17:05 Luke-Jr Prayer is a form of worship. <-- but not all worship is reserved for God. this is where English-age heretics try to abuse the language
17:05 locksmith *poor people
17:05 Luke-Jr danielpbarron: which ones do you question?
17:05 locksmith unpaid employees
17:05 danielpbarron Luke-Jr: all of them
17:05 Duffer1 saints not adored?! are you smoking crack, there's a thriving market for silver/gold trinkets of the various saints
17:06 cazalla locksmith: lurk more, it was funny if you understand the context
17:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 13220 @ 0.00009981 = 1.3195 BTC [-] {13}
17:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.05893354 = 0.1768 BTC [-] {3}
17:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.59340035 = 1.7802 BTC [-] {2}
17:06 Luke-Jr danielpbarron: keep in mind that the Catholic Church *produced* the Bible. so if you question the Church, there is no basis to accept its product either
17:06 stompysteve so what does everything thing about neobee right now whats it worth
17:06 Duffer1 saying it's not idolatry does not negate the fact that it's idolatry
17:06 jurov i can't adore my cock without also worshipping God at the same time by the same logic
17:06 Luke-Jr Duffer1: it isn't.
17:07 Duffer1 you're an idiot
17:07 locksmith cazalla thanks for the heads up
17:07 danielpbarron Luke-Jr: there are examples in the Bible of God causes evil men to further good works
17:07 Namworld Why are people even buying Neobee that high?
17:07 danielpbarron causing*
17:07 Luke-Jr idolatry: the worship of a picture or object as a god
17:07 mircea_popescu locksmith just mocking teh forum doods.
17:07 locksmith Namworld someone's being funny buying 10000
17:07 Luke-Jr the saints are not worshipped as gods
17:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3956 @ 0.0000999 = 0.3952 BTC [+] {3}
17:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7794 @ 0.00096507 = 7.5218 BTC [-]
17:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.00579499 = 0.1449 BTC [+]
17:07 mike_c what a bloodbath..
17:08 locksmith mircea_popescu I got that, just wasn't sure as to if you were referring to particular posts
17:08 Namworld Like 1 satoshi, maybe. I'd buy the whole Neobee just for the lulz.
17:08 locksmith couldn't read all that shit without getting a headache
17:08 mircea_popescu stompysteve http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-assets-rules-and-regulations/
17:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3056 @ 0.00012972 = 0.3964 BTC [+] {9}
17:08 danielpbarron Luke-Jr: can person who is not God forgive sins?
17:08 mircea_popescu locksmith a that i have no idea.
17:08 Luke-Jr danielpbarron: not of themselves, no
17:09 stompysteve and havelock down
17:09 stompysteve lol
17:09 mircea_popescu til jurov adores his cock.
17:09 danielpbarron Luke-Jr: then what is the purpose of fasting as a penance?
17:09 mircea_popescu lmao who had money on < 15 minutes ? was it mike_c ?
17:09 Namworld Look, I bought out your whole "good business offer" for less than 1 BTC, fellow forum members.
17:09 mike_c nah, wasn't me
17:09 locksmith anyhooo people, for those thinking of buying, danny is with his trollface selling on the other side of the screen
17:09 mircea_popescu !last neobee
17:09 assbot You know, I've had it up to here with this Indian malarkey.
17:09 Namworld That's probably more than it's worth, but eh
17:10 moiety neo died before i even checked? lol
17:10 danielpbarron you forgot the 'Q'
17:10 mircea_popescu i wanted the old price.
17:10 Namworld It proves a point?
17:10 JWU42 forgot all about this channel
17:10 mircea_popescu JWU42 heretiq.
17:10 moiety lolol @ assbot
17:10 * JWU42 chuckles
17:10 rithm ^5 JWU42
17:10 locksmith JWU42 some never knew of this channel don't want to point to names -----> cryptocyprus
17:10 kakobrekla !l h neobee
17:10 assbot Last trade for NEOBEE on HAVELOCK was at 0.00187956 BTC [-]
17:10 kakobrekla !l h neobeeq
17:10 assbot Last trade for NEOBEEQ on HAVELOCK was at 0.00012972 BTC [+]
17:11 Luke-Jr danielpbarron: twofold: 1) to make amends to God; 2) to give up legitimate pleasure, as practice for subjecting our bodies to our will so that when we are tempted to do evil, we can resist it better
17:11 mircea_popescu awww, all this fud.
17:11 JWU42 I ahve been away from this for so long I missed the whole weex graet.load neo.bee crap
17:11 mircea_popescu NewBie is a great copropany run by a competent cacao
17:11 JWU42 loan*
17:11 mircea_popescu or however you spell these things
17:11 mircea_popescu JWU42 that's about 10mb worth of logs to keep you entertained
17:12 mgio damn the market cap on havelock is just 265 btc, ima buy up the whole company
17:12 danielpbarron Luke-Jr: amends 1. reparation or compensation.
17:12 jborkl wasnt neobee .06 or something last week?
17:12 JWU42 I am sure there is more than enough to keep me busy
17:12 mike_c ;;calc (187956 - 12972) / 187956
17:12 gribble 0.930983847283
17:12 locksmith some fud be good fud, i.e., I got fud that buying this shit gonna have a bad time
17:12 danielpbarron Luke-Jr: a believer owes fasting to God? will they be damned if they don't?
17:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.05500001 = 0.11 BTC [-]
17:12 mircea_popescu this danielpbarron Luke-Jr thing looks like twu wuv.
17:13 * JWU42 barfs
17:13 stompysteve neobee was .006 a month ago or so
17:13 locksmith I got an address with 0.0010btc, gonna buy me some stock
17:13 Luke-Jr danielpbarron: by sinning, we offend God and ought to make amends; whether one is damned is based solely on his being on good terms with God (ie, not in a state of mortal sin)
17:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3058 @ 0.000101 = 0.3089 BTC [-] {11}
17:13 danielpbarron Luke-Jr: the only "amends" is repenting
17:13 JWU42 so basically I am in deep sh*t then Luke-Jr ;)
17:14 jurov Luke-Jr: you forget one must be baptized
17:14 jborkl ah i see, so only a 99%, not bad not bad
17:14 jborkl loss
17:14 Luke-Jr danielpbarron: repenting is a prerequisite to making amends, it isn't amends in itself
17:14 jurov unbatized souls go straight to dumper
17:14 Luke-Jr jurov: no, that's included
17:14 JWU42 I did get baptized - so i have that going for me
17:14 Luke-Jr jurov: we are born enemies of God, in a state of mortal sin
17:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 342 @ 0.00084015 = 0.2873 BTC [-]
17:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3550 @ 0.00010667 = 0.3787 BTC [+] {5}
17:14 mike_c that's not entirely true jurov. unbaptized babies dont go to hell
17:14 Luke-Jr mike_c: yes they do
17:15 mike_c no, they don't. god told me
17:15 assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1770948/plain/)
17:15 kakobrekla !b 2
17:15 JWU42 and there goes the looney alarm
17:15 Luke-Jr mike_c: your "god" is a demon then
17:15 mircea_popescu owned kakobrekla :D
17:15 Duffer1 i know right kako lol
17:15 kakobrekla bleh
17:15 jurov mike_c: you were probably bapized as adult. they are allowed to tell adults lies such as this to get them into the church
17:15 danielpbarron Luke-Jr: is the amends required?
17:15 mike_c http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/religion/2007-04-20-popelimbo_N.htm
17:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1224 @ 0.00010941 = 0.1339 BTC [+] {8}
17:15 mircea_popescu do demons have buttsex with dead babies then ?
17:15 jurov but me and luke_jr had proper catholic upbringing
17:16 Luke-Jr danielpbarron: if you don't make amends, it's questionable whether you were serious about repentence, at least.
17:16 mike_c i have 10 years of catholic school. bring it.
17:16 jborkl yeah, http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/religion/2007-04-20-popelimbo_N.htm
17:16 jborkl They are thinking about it
17:16 JWU42 It's a cult I tell you
17:16 mircea_popescu mike_c nowai ?!
17:16 mike_c yeswai
17:16 Luke-Jr jurov: Catholics are not allowed to lie for any reason.
17:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 6199 @ 0.00011 = 0.6819 BTC [+] {6}
17:17 mod6 not even about bfl?
17:17 mircea_popescu lmao this neobbq shit is so lulzy
17:17 JWU42 !b3
17:17 jurov mike_c: so what the babies do with the mortal sin? do tell
17:17 JWU42 grrr
17:17 JWU42 that was too good
17:17 jurov Luke-Jr: they are, if they are convinced it's truth
17:17 mike_c "Baptism does not exist to wipe away the "stain" of original sin, but to initiate one into the Church,"
17:17 JWU42 mod6: you get a gold star for that
17:17 Luke-Jr jurov: it's not a lie, if you believe it yourself.
17:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2856 @ 0.00011287 = 0.3224 BTC [+] {12}
17:17 jurov ^ in other words.
17:17 Luke-Jr jurov: furthermore, someone who believes that unbaptised babies *don't* go to Hell, is not a Catholic
17:18 mike_c hah, incorrect
17:18 mike_c i don't believe it, i was baptized, i am a catholic
17:18 Luke-Jr mike_c: saying so doesn't make it true
17:18 mike_c as a matter of fact i don't believe any of this crap and am still a catholic
17:18 mike_c the church says it
17:18 kakobrekla at this rate we will do luke-jr.bash.bitcoin-assets.com
17:18 Luke-Jr mike_c: to be Catholic, you need to believe everything the Church teaches, by definition
17:18 Luke-Jr if you deny any doctrine, you are by definition NOT Catholic
17:18 mike_c no, you don't. where do you get this crap?
17:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2247 @ 0.00011381 = 0.2557 BTC [+] {7}
17:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00096507 = 13.2215 BTC [-]
17:18 mike_c incorrect. i was baptized, confirmed.
17:18 mike_c i'm catholic, like it or not.
17:19 Luke-Jr mike_c: that means you are *accountable* for being Catholic
17:19 Luke-Jr and will be judged as one who should know better
17:19 jurov mike_c they have lied to you in the school
17:19 JWU42 Is Luke-Jr really autistic?
17:19 Duffer1 so... pedastry is a catholic doctrine else those priests would have been excomunicated
17:19 Duffer1 got it
17:19 Luke-Jr mike_c: but if you deny doctrine, you are a damned heretic until you repent
17:19 jborkl did any priests touch you as a little boy? is'nt that requirment of being Catholic
17:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 8584 @ 0.00010414 = 0.8939 BTC [-] {12}
17:19 Luke-Jr jborkl: troll
17:19 locksmith I was baptized orthodox, anyone else here ortho?? join the cool club we're the men in black
17:19 mike_c i am a damned heretic catholic. i have not been ex-communicated.
17:19 danielpbarron Luke-Jr: what is "doctrine?"
17:20 Luke-Jr mike_c: heretics leave the Church of their own free will
17:20 jurov danielpbarron: the catechism
17:20 Luke-Jr mike_c: there is no need for excommunication
17:20 jborkl That is a legit question, we do not have many Catholis here
17:20 mike_c i'm not leaving! you can't make me either. sorry, you're stuck with me.
17:20 danielpbarron jurov: so, not the Bible?
17:20 jborkl c
17:20 JWU42 and now I understand why I am not in here
17:20 Luke-Jr danielpbarron: any teaching of the Church (on matters of faith or moralS)
17:20 JWU42 that was enough for another 6 momnths
17:20 kakobrekla it wasnt like that before you came in
17:20 Luke-Jr mike_c: the act of denying doctrine, is in itself, one by which you have left
17:20 danielpbarron Luke-Jr: what is "the Church"
17:20 kakobrekla :D
17:20 mircea_popescu <JWU42> Is Luke-Jr really autistic? << no, he's just right.
17:20 jurov danielpbarron: not. there is "biblical thelogy" and there is "Tradition of Catholic Church"
17:21 mircea_popescu there's a difference.
17:21 Luke-Jr mike_c: it's like the act of killing yourself, you cease to be alive
17:21 jurov they'e distinc things
17:21 danielpbarron jurov: does the tradition change over time?
17:21 mike_c i was even an altar boy. i'm more catholic than you are.
17:21 mircea_popescu wait, you were an ALTAR BOY ?
17:21 mike_c great tips.
17:21 mircea_popescu holy shit these exist.
17:21 Luke-Jr danielpbarron: no, nor is there a real distinction
17:21 mircea_popescu i thought it's just an urban legend.
17:21 jurov danielpbarron: ofc it does. but it's still infallible in every moment
17:21 mike_c made a killing for funerals.
17:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.056 = 0.112 BTC [+]
17:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1367 @ 0.00010245 = 0.14 BTC [-] {7}
17:22 Luke-Jr Catholicism (Scripture + Tradition) does not change, ever.
17:22 danielpbarron jurov: can you demonstrate any miracles to prove that the alteration in tradition is legitimately from God?
17:22 locksmith hmm so have the people trading read any news lately?
17:22 jborkl They have a Latin Pope now, what about that ???
17:22 jurov danielpbarron requesting miracles shows tongue of the Evil
17:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1323 @ 0.00010134 = 0.1341 BTC [-] {13}
17:23 mike_c we're capitalizing Evil now too? :D
17:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.58234142 = 1.1647 BTC [-] {2}
17:24 jurov that was merely for you to imagine dramatic whisper
17:24 danielpbarron jurov: according to whom?
17:24 Luke-Jr danielpbarron: anyhow, to finish off with this page: Catholicism *does* condemn homosexuals and muslims; even the Apotles baptised infants, as is necessary for their salvation; Christ's grace *is* sufficient to completely cleanse us of sin, but only if we make good use of it - otherwise we will need purgatory to deal with what we have been unwilling to change about our evilness
17:25 jurov danielpbarron: Matthew 4,1-11
17:25 Luke-Jr jurov: danielpbarron is absolutely right to demand miracles to testify to shepherds who cannot trace their authority to the Apostles
17:25 Luke-Jr although even with miracles, one cannot justify changing doctrine
17:26 danielpbarron Luke-Jr: is it a fair assessment to state that Catholicism as you describe it is not in accordance with the Bible? -- or, Catholicism is not a religion based on the Bible but instead on "the Church" which in this context refers specifically to an organization in Europe?
17:26 Luke-Jr danielpbarron: Catholicism is based on Christ's teachings, not the Bible. the Church is also not "in Europe", but universal.
17:27 Luke-Jr the Bible is one of many written promulgations of the Church, in its course of doing its duty to teach the world
17:27 Mats_cd03 oh look its religion hour
17:27 Mats_cd03 how dull
17:27 jurov lol "bible is promulgation of church" this is new for me
17:28 Mats_cd03 this is true
17:28 mike_c the true word of God was handed down to Joseph Smith on some golden tupperware in 1822
17:28 Mats_cd03 was there anything in it
17:29 Luke-Jr mike_c: that was a demon
17:29 jurov wasn't that xenu?
17:29 mike_c do not question the tupperware
17:29 Mats_cd03 chili mac and some religious documents
17:29 Luke-Jr Mats_cd03: mike_c is referring to Mormonism
17:29 Luke-Jr (or Moronism, if you prefer)
17:29 Mats_cd03 yes im making a joke
17:29 mike_c for which you will go to hell
17:29 stompysteve god isnt real
17:29 mircea_popescu well that was fun but time for the ignores.
17:29 BingoBoingo The last words of Jesus were "Fuck you" before he stumbled in front of a Tractor Trailer on I-70 outside Fairmont City
17:30 jurov I, as the arm of Holy Church, hereby promulgate holy writings of L.Ron Hubbard as True Word of God
17:31 jurov while my orger arm being busy with worship
17:31 jurov *other
17:32 Luke-Jr danielpbarron: here is a real approved catechism: http://www.baltimore-catechism.com/
17:32 ThickAsThieves <mircea_popescu> lmao this neobbq shit is so lulzy /// so fuckin surreal
17:32 mircea_popescu i was expecting moar trades.
17:32 ThickAsThieves i cant even forumlate a thought
17:32 mircea_popescu that was it ? done ?
17:32 mircea_popescu !t h neobeeq
17:32 assbot [HAVELOCK:NEOBEEQ] 1D: 0.00000001 / 7.937E-5 / 0.00020000 (93554 shares, 7.42521178 BTC), 7D: 0.00000001 / 7.937E-5 / 0.00020000 (93554 shares, 7.42521178 BTC), 30D: 0.00000001 / 0.00266159 / 0.00450000 (494965 shares, 1317.39453993 BTC)
17:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 22882 @ 0.00005223 = 1.1951 BTC [-] {8}
17:33 Duffer1 o.0
17:33 mircea_popescu 7.937E-5 lol that sounds right
17:33 locksmith mircea_popescu so are they trading for the lulz? cos I don't see any other reason
17:33 mircea_popescu locksmith prolly.
17:34 ThickAsThieves "Its too cheap for me not to buy, hell i dont even care if i lose!"
17:34 mircea_popescu maybe a few people are trading to acquire a standing to sue.
17:34 mike_c buy side is picking up cheap lotto tickets. sell side doesn't want to have to see those shares on their balance sheet anymore.
17:34 mircea_popescu sounds about right.
17:34 BingoBoingo So... What does NeoBBQ mean for the NeoBee BitBet
17:34 psterryl someone bought 10k shares at 1 satoshi
17:35 psterryl if they then flipped them at 0.00012
17:35 jurov BingoBoingo: it's no longer neobee
17:35 jurov just an undead something
17:35 psterryl that over 1mil% profit
17:35 psterryl *that's
17:35 BingoBoingo jurov: Seems to make sense
17:35 ThickAsThieves reverse gemming?
17:36 ThickAsThieves gnimmeg
17:36 stompysteve well site down and last price was like .00000000 so i guess GG
17:37 stompysteve for now
17:38 kakobrekla price got so low it was hard to reach the 0.1 btc sum trading vol per minute to post out trades here so we missed the 'action'
17:38 mircea_popescu course the other explanation is, officers buying to reduce their legal exposure.
17:38 mircea_popescu this is fraudulent in and of itself, but clueless noobs a la danny prolly dunno about it.
17:38 mircea_popescu so if he left with as much as 50 btc, spending that to buy shares for 1% of par may seem to him a good use of funds
17:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2117 @ 0.00005014 = 0.1061 BTC [-] {8}
17:40 mircea_popescu obviously if the asset was delisted at the company's request
17:40 mircea_popescu it'd stabd to reason it was also relisted in the same manner.
17:41 mike_c havelock said they relisted it because they haven't heard anything from neobee.
17:41 mike_c which seemed like an odd reason.
17:41 locksmith imo havelock's full of shit
17:44 stompysteve its also odd they didnt give like 24 hour notice or anything
17:44 mircea_popescu a knot of innovative business practices.
17:46 jborkl NEOBEEQ฿0.0001 Market cap ฿132
17:47 jborkl heh
17:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00096639 = 15.5589 BTC [+]
17:47 mircea_popescu: now I'm officially calling scammers on Havelock.
17:47 hi
17:47 BingoBoingo Havelock buying all of the shares to get legal standing to sue?
17:49 locksmith fud
17:49 WTF does Havelock to do with buyg NB shares?
17:49 jborkl https://docs.google.com/document/d/1khGADbJeu0efCNZ13lnz8BucG7PfS5Cl9lBZ1sncY-4/edit
17:49 ozbot Prospectus - V2.0 - Main Body - Google Drive
17:49 jborkl March 17th 2014
17:50 mircea_popescu ello.
17:50 seriously, WTF is wrong with these ppl. his is grounds for suiing them.
17:50 On March 28, 2014 Havelock Investments halted trading of the NEOBEE Fund; Havelock Investments has yet to receive any formal information in regards to the questionable trading activity on the LMB share platform website. We have not received any formal information on the current situation at LMB Holdings. Due to those factors we have decided that the unit holders on the NEOBEE Fund should no longer be suspended from trading their units.
17:50 The Fund will now be designated as NEOBEEQ to reflect the uncertainty of the future of LMB Holdings – NEO BEE Ltd. Financial information on the status of the company has not been released. The units of this Fund will continue to trade even if the company will file for bankruptcy. We will continue to update you if any information is provided to us.
17:50 Trading will resume today at 5:00 PM EST
17:50 Thank you for investing with Havelock Investments!
17:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.05999984 = 1.08 BTC [+]
17:51 So, you don't have news and thus promptly unilateraly decide to re-list an asset? really?
17:52 jurov paranormal activity, i say.
17:53 jurov i thought it was aliens, but it's actually zombies
17:53 locksmith I'm telling you panama's smoking bad grass
17:54 BingoBoingo NeoBeeQ seems to be some sort of derivative of the now non-existent NeoBee of a like not seen since pirate debt was securitized
17:54 locksmith they're saying it's neobeeQuestionable, thus the Q
17:54 mircea_popescu this is what you get when you let forum "professionals" do things.
17:55 mike_c goxbux got traded for a little while.
17:55 NEOBEEQ doesn't exist. If you had NEOBEE shares, Haelock has stolen them from you and turned them into HavelockCOins, a Goxcoin derivative.
17:55 jborkl Who was it in bitcoin GLBSE that came up with a. holds b. and b holbs c. and c. holds a. and b. so there is no risk
17:56 BingoBoingo jborkl: Usagi?
17:56 jborkl ah yes, thank you
17:57 jborkl should have been obvious
17:57 A cousin of DAnk?
17:58 BingoBoingo No, Dank just took Bitcoins in exchange for word salad
17:58 locksmith I need to know what these people are buying if not thin air. neobee/danny do not have any BTC left
17:58 Shakespeare http://oig.state.gov/documents/organization/224580.pdf
17:59 Shakespeare "In sum, over the past 6 years, our audit work has uncovered significant contract file
17:59 Shakespeare management deficiencies in Department contracts/task orders with a total value of more
17:59 Shakespeare than $6 billion. "
17:59 cazalla locksmith: likely these types of people think it's a good time to do some dollar cost averaging http://www.reddit.com/r/neobee/comments/227tng/why_im_holding_onto_neobee/
17:59 mircea_popescu jborkl usagi.
17:59 mircea_popescu word salad roflmao.
17:59 mircea_popescu aptly put.
18:00 BingoBoingo: looks the same to me.
18:00 mircea_popescu ahahaha cazalla drop them a link to teh http://trilema.com/2014/the-psychology-of-the-bagholder/
18:00 locksmith lol
18:01 cazalla can't, deleted my reddit account
18:01 mike_c kakobrekla: -trades is unfiltered, right? small trades get through?
18:01 mrstickball so how do you guys see the future of coin-based assets?
18:02 mrstickball I am trying to make sense of it all, given so many bad actors and skeevy exchanges
18:02 mircea_popescu mrstickball pls to read logs ty.
18:02 Shakespeare the Bitcoin Fundnation says "we’ve been lazy and undisciplined about getting updates written in the face of so much possible content. Jon Matonis is tackling this"
18:03 Shakespeare '’ve put forward a challenge to the team: “Say a lot more.”'
18:03 Shakespeare lol
18:03 Shakespeare more words!
18:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1700 @ 0.0000992 = 0.1686 BTC [+] {11}
18:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.0614 = 0.1842 BTC [+]
18:03 mrstickball mircea_popescu: which logs, exactly
18:03 Shakespeare "They’ve risen to the challenge, and have as a first response opened up read access to our member forums to the public. "
18:03 Shakespeare share the words!
18:03 locksmith it's ok just dropped the link on reddit myself
18:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0619 = 0.1238 BTC [+]
18:04 mircea_popescu ;;topic
18:04 gribble http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com
18:05 Shakespeare "Finally, I’ve asked Jon Matonis to update you on the details of operations and finances of the Foundation. Expect that soon."
18:05 Shakespeare Soon tm
18:05 mircea_popescu Shakespeare didn't they kick matonis out at some point because he wanted to be on the press contacts list or something ?
18:05 Shakespeare the rumors of his death were exaggerated
18:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 11058 @ 0.00008781 = 0.971 BTC [-] {12}
18:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.061999 = 0.124 BTC [+] {2}
18:05 mircea_popescu lmao
18:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61698999 BTC [+]
18:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 17171 @ 0.00009997 = 1.7166 BTC [+] {7}
18:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.0381 = 0.2286 BTC [+]
18:09 kakobrekla mike_c yes
18:09 Shakespeare "The company recently put up a page for "Amazon Dash," a shopping accessory"
18:09 mike_c thx
18:09 Shakespeare it's a barcode scanner and mic
18:09 Shakespeare buy things so you can buy things!
18:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.0381 = 0.2667 BTC [+]
18:10 Shakespeare http://pando.com/2014/04/04/revealed-rahm-emanuel-cuts-public-pensions-diverts-money-to-benefit-campaign-donors/
18:10 ozbot Revealed: Rahm Emanuel cuts public pensions, diverts money to benefit campaign donors | PandoDaily
18:10 mircea_popescu "I believe the community demand is great enough to carry this idea onward, and I look forward to their success."
18:11 mircea_popescu bwahahahaha
18:11 mircea_popescu who sold all these idiots on "community" ?
18:11 mircea_popescu masterful job.
18:11 stompysteve whats the number in the {} mean
18:12 psterryl how many individual trades there were
18:12 stompysteve thanks
18:12 mircea_popescu how many trades were collated into the line
18:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 900 @ 0.00011898 = 0.1071 BTC [+] {3}
18:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.05999985 = 0.24 BTC [+]
18:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 20 @ 0.01500003 = 0.3 BTC [-] {4}
18:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1900 @ 0.00014879 = 0.2827 BTC [+] {3}
18:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2100 @ 0.00013 = 0.273 BTC [-] {3}
18:22 mircea_popescu http://iang.org/papers/triple_entry.html
18:22 ozbot Triple Entry Accounting
18:22 mircea_popescu this is really an excellent write-up.
18:22 mircea_popescu should be in the wiki imo, either as-is or mildly rewritten
18:22 asciilifeform http://www.mainlesson.com/display.php?author=lang&book=red&story=voice
18:22 mircea_popescu prolly as-is with credit
18:22 ozbot The Baldwin Project: The Red Fairy Book by Andrew Lang
18:22 asciilifeform relevant to... things.
18:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1009 @ 0.00014869 = 0.15 BTC [-] {4}
18:23 Duffer1 luke-jr still around?
18:25 stompysteve lol whoever got those 10k shares at .000000000000001 is gonna have some fun with neobee over the next lil while
18:26 jadne heh
18:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2600 @ 0.00014878 = 0.3868 BTC [-] {3}
18:27 Shakespeare it is added mp http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/finance
18:27 mircea_popescu cool!
18:30 tg2 http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=262175399&m=262186039
18:30 ozbot NPR Media Player
18:30 tg2 lol
18:31 tg2 teen birth rates drop 5.9% because of "16 and pregnant" lol
18:33 midnightmagic education strikes again
18:34 tg2 fear education
18:34 midnightmagic realism education
18:35 jurov wow that triple entry... looks like something i wrestled with and reimplemented badly
18:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1000 @ 0.00013 = 0.13 BTC [-]
18:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 980 @ 0.00012499 = 0.1225 BTC [-] {5}
18:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4817 @ 0.00096678 = 4.657 BTC [+] {2}
18:42 mircea_popescu jurov >D
18:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19550 @ 0.00096802 = 18.9248 BTC [+] {2}
18:43 cmyers wow, epic scrollback history. It's like watching a star wars versus star trek argument.
18:44 cmyers "Everyone knows the death star would *totally* destroy the enterprise because the technical manual says so!"
18:44 cmyers "Clearly my intepretation is right!"
18:44 truffles lol nerds
18:44 cmyers "But george lucas PRODUCED the technical manual, he is biased, lolz"
18:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 14 @ 0.01999992 = 0.28 BTC [+] {3}
18:50 jurov catholic nerdery? onoes
18:50 jurov makes me explicit :(
18:51 truffles jurov atheist?
18:51 jurov no, catholic raised fag
18:51 truffles umk
18:51 truffles u couldve changed since?
18:52 jurov you can't really change. it sticks with you
18:52 Mats_cd03 do you feel robbed
18:52 jurov they are really deeply ingrained. both catholicism and homosexuality
18:52 truffles heh
18:53 jurov Mats_cd03: i don
18:53 jurov 't have basis for comparison
18:54 bounce http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2014/03/hey-parents-leave-those-kids-alone/358631/
18:54 ozbot The Overprotected Kid - The Atlantic
18:54 jurov maybe other people are robbed because then they can't understand zealotry, who knows
18:54 truffles were u touched ?
18:55 jurov no, why?
18:55 truffles seems a thing they do..
18:55 jurov everyone does
18:55 jurov all the time
18:56 truffles well i agree its tough to shake off the religious stuff
18:56 truffles i find some value in some of it though
18:56 Mats_cd03 i feel robbed
18:57 Mats_cd03 indoctrinated with garbage
18:58 truffles it could be worse
18:58 mircea_popescu so i'm the largest crafter in rift by such a wide margin that the next two people are smaller than me combined :D
18:59 mircea_popescu i'd guess there's between 10 and 20ish people working 40 hour weeks at feeding my vast industrial complex with raw materials.
18:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0381 = 0.381 BTC [+]
18:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.05999996 = 0.48 BTC [+] {2}
19:01 truffles good for u
19:01 khersonus can you make money off of that somehow?
19:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58010002 BTC [-]
19:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58010001 BTC [-]
19:03 mircea_popescu khersonus i guess you could.
19:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 4800 @ 0.00010809 = 0.5188 BTC [-] {7}
19:07 khersonus so, btc is not the only "game currency" you have found success in
19:07 khersonus I'm still not sure that argument would hold up in court...
19:09 mircea_popescu hehe, no.
19:10 cazalla surely there are only 5 people left playing rift? :P
19:11 mircea_popescu there's ~1k just in the bitcoin guild.
19:11 mircea_popescu this is the smaller shard. there's 2 larger ones, plus a few smaller ones
19:11 mircea_popescu (the marketplace is shared tho)
19:11 cazalla i bought it when it came out, didn't really give it longer than a week though
19:12 cazalla same deal with swtor, interesting how they both went f2p
19:13 mircea_popescu i actually paid them for 6 months.
19:16 cazalla hopefully EQN is a great game, have not sunk much time into mmorpgs since wow/eq days
19:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1254 @ 0.00009699 = 0.1216 BTC [-] {3}
19:20 mircea_popescu i didn't like either.
19:20 mircea_popescu was in closed beta of both, didn't play past it
19:20 cazalla what didn't you like about EQ?
19:22 cazalla mcquad is making yet another mmorpg, funded this time by kickstarter, i'm sure it will end just like vanguard though
19:22 cazalla mcquaid even
19:26 mircea_popescu i dont even remember.
19:26 mircea_popescu dumbass crafting for sure.
19:28 matt_boyd123 Still haven't got round to playing Rift :(
19:28 matt_boyd123 Was playing LoL for way too long.
19:30 cazalla what do you play matt?
19:30 matthew_boyd Like in general or?
19:30 cazalla in LoL
19:30 matthew_boyd Oh, I play Riven :)
19:31 matthew_boyd I love that champion.
19:31 cazalla i like leona for sup
19:31 matthew_boyd Yea, for sure.
19:31 matthew_boyd http://www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/51811207#matches -- my match history. I had to quit, but before I did, I had an 18 win streak.
19:32 ozbot MidRivenEUW - Europe West - Summoners - League of Legends
19:34 cazalla http://www.lolking.net/summoner/oce/302360 but i have not played in a while
19:35 matthew_boyd Nice man!
19:35 matthew_boyd I haven't been in this chat for like, a year?
19:35 matthew_boyd Fuck, haha.
19:36 cazalla lol not really, i was a shitkunt but i don't have the time to dedicate to it
19:36 matthew_boyd Haha, oh well, it's only a game, then again. :)
19:36 cazalla to be 16 again and have 24/7
19:37 matthew_boyd Haha, I am 16, however, I do not have that sort of time. :P
19:37 matthew_boyd I have about 1 hour to myself a day.
19:37 cazalla sounds like you make better use of it
19:38 matthew_boyd Haha.
19:40 matthew_boyd Anyway, it's late here, and I have to revise tomorrow.
19:40 matthew_boyd Talk to you later, cazalla. :)
19:40 cazalla ttyl
19:40 matthew_boyd o/
19:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 10589 @ 0.00009999 = 1.0588 BTC [+] {2}
19:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15450 @ 0.0009659 = 14.9232 BTC [-]
19:50 Luke-Jr Duffer1: ?
19:50 Duffer1 Luke-Jr I called you an idiot earlier, I'm sorry
19:50 Duffer1 just wanted to apologize
19:50 Luke-Jr np
19:51 Luke-Jr Duffer1: are you still confused about idolatry?
19:52 Duffer1 lol i am not at all interested in restarting that conversation
19:52 Luke-Jr :P
19:58 mike_c February was JD's lowest ever monthly wagered volume. Until March when it dropped another 40%.
20:00 mike_c new chart: http://www.btcalpha.com/income/#justdice
20:01 mike_c and for those sans javascript: http://i.imgur.com/6zFGjFP.png
20:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29650 @ 0.0009659 = 28.6389 BTC [-]
20:02 kakobrekla nice work mike_c
20:03 mike_c thx. hopefully not a good btc investment headed for the crapper.
20:03 mike_c maybe people are bored of rolling dice.
20:03 kakobrekla or just lost it all already
20:04 cazalla i thought dooglus would've run with the coins by now
20:04 mike_c dooglus seems like a very standup guy.
20:05 cazalla yeah he does
20:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0599 = 0.1797 BTC [-]
20:07 bounce ``Two other exchanges hit by the same problem, Bitstamp Ltd. of Slovenia and BTC-e of Bulgaria, resumed normal trading after working out a fix with software coders coordinated by the Bitcoin Foundation.'' (wsj) -- I don't recall the bitcoin foundation having much to do with it. case of inserting yourself for marketeering purposes?
20:12 mircea_popescu mike_c interesting stuff
20:12 mircea_popescu !jd
20:12 assbot Just-Dice stat: 15388 BTC profit, 32.0k BTC invested, 976.46 mio bets, 5.13 mio BTC wagered
20:12 mike_c not sure what to make of it.
20:13 mircea_popescu sdice showed the exact same hump pattern over its lifetime
20:13 mircea_popescu novelty effect maybe ?
20:13 mike_c yeah, could be. it's just not interesting enough to hold people's attention. customer churn is higher than new customer acquisition.
20:14 cazalla how does doge-dice compare?
20:14 mircea_popescu bounce pretty much
20:14 mircea_popescu "let's pretend like we matter by pretending like we matter."
20:14 mircea_popescu mike_c what boggles my mind is... 5mn wagered should show 50k profit.
20:15 mircea_popescu it's been stuck around 12-15kish forever neh ?
20:15 mike_c it is heavily skewed by nakowa, the huge lucky bettor.
20:15 mircea_popescu but that was long ago ?
20:15 mike_c yeah. but since then it has largely tracked expected returns
20:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25150 @ 0.00096577 = 24.2891 BTC [-] {2}
20:15 mircea_popescu o it has ?
20:16 bounce too bad journos are suckers for that sort of crap. and apparently there's good dues revenue in it too. nice racket.
20:16 mike_c last three months, 425k wagered.
20:16 mircea_popescu bounce revenue what ?
20:16 mike_c so expected would only be 4k profit
20:16 mircea_popescu and actual profit ?
20:17 * bounce briefly wonders if there'd be legitimate purposes for a "bitcoin foundation", and what sort of people you'd want in there, then.
20:17 mike_c ~ 4.5k
20:17 mircea_popescu ah then that's cool.
20:18 bounce ``The Bitcoin Foundation is basically the official establishment of a loose collection of technology geeks, businessmen, and big-government skeptics from around the world. The 18-month-old group has thousands of members, plus roughly $3 million in dues and donations contributed in bitcoins.''
20:18 mircea_popescu derp.
20:18 bounce treacherous use of "official" there
20:18 mircea_popescu they got some donations originally, when btc was cheap.
20:20 bounce what's the speshul extra spendy memberships cost again?
20:20 mircea_popescu bounce well, shot the only guy on the authors list with any sm exposure a tweet.
20:20 mircea_popescu bounce basically ver donated i dun recall, 3k btc was it ? back when btc was 50ish
20:20 bounce oh dear. a tweet!
20:20 bounce ;;calc 3000 * [tlast]
20:20 gribble 1350000
20:20 mircea_popescu a few forum muppets split a coupla hundred btc between a thousand or so heads
20:21 mircea_popescu and the rest is open to debate.
20:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 25 @ 0.01200125 = 0.3 BTC [-]
20:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3000 @ 0.00012599 = 0.378 BTC [+] {2}
20:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.0598 = 0.6578 BTC [-]
20:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1369 @ 0.000127 = 0.1739 BTC [+] {2}
20:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.03809999 = 0.381 BTC [-]
20:43 bounce looking at their membership page and the dues listed --in usd but payable in "bitcoin index", taking usd for reference here, and taking the yearlies for just one year-- I'm calculating a band of 405925 to 440225 USD-worth lower bound actually paid
20:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 939 @ 0.00013398 = 0.1258 BTC [+] {2}
20:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00096552 = 16.8966 BTC [-] {2}
20:46 mircea_popescu this is actually remarkably accurate afaik.
20:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00096874 = 8.5733 BTC [+] {2}
20:51 bounce eh, I made a boo-boo in the upper band. missing some 400k-odd, so 400k-800k. lemme check the numbers again.
20:51 mike_c looks like neobeeq has settled in at a 93% drop from suspended price. another win for havelock.
20:51 benkay half your money!
20:51 benkay hey mircea_popescu thanks for the front page tweet
20:52 mircea_popescu yw
20:52 benkay had to wait for some other twuser to let me know
20:52 mircea_popescu you have a tweetar ?
20:52 benkay odd thing is that other people are now letting me hear about where else my blatherings are popping up o.O
20:52 benkay ffs are you kidding me?
20:52 * kakobrekla checks
20:52 mircea_popescu lol no
20:53 kakobrekla yeah surfer dude is invested innit
20:53 kakobrekla >The Bitcoin Emerging Market Fund (BBBB) initiated a position in the Neo & Bee Payment Network (Havelock: NEOBEE) on 03/07 buying 18 shares. The fund will continue to increase this position in the near term. I love the tangibility of NEOBEE's assets. They have brick and mortar branches and will be providing vital financial services to an area that has traditionally been "under-banked."
20:53 benkay 140 characters signifying nothing
20:53 kakobrekla a whole 18 shares of loss.
20:53 mircea_popescu kakobrekla ahahaha who runs this ?
20:53 benkay surfcapital management?
20:53 kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=95441.msg5682356;topicseen#msg5682356
20:53 ozbot [Cryptostocks] BBBB Bitcoin Emerging Market Fund
20:53 mircea_popescu pretty fucking epic lol.
20:53 mircea_popescu "i love the tangibility of neobee's assets". "oops... they had no assets"
20:54 mircea_popescu "Peer-to-peer lending is risky. We can mitigate fraud losses by our due diligence. BTCJam provides great analytics on borrower creditworthiness. "
20:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 15 @ 0.10144642 = 1.5217 BTC [-]
20:54 mircea_popescu fucktards are fucktared, news at eight.
20:54 kakobrekla hehe
20:54 mircea_popescu our due dilligence, loving the tangibility of newbie assets.
20:54 cads in my famous and well loved series of clueless questions, what are some books that you guys think any entrepreneur should read after his fifth failure, right before making it big!
20:54 BingoBoingo [KS]: Understanding the difference between usagi and dank is critical for classing other scams
20:54 asciilifeform can't wait until somebody thinks of offering fucktard loans with... btc private keys as collateral.
20:55 mircea_popescu im blogging this.
20:55 cads sorry I made that question _extra_ clueless, for humor.
20:55 benkay ANATHEMA
20:55 mircea_popescu cads i think you should detail your previous five failures on a blog.
20:55 mircea_popescu then we can halp you.
20:55 KRS-One HALP HALP!
20:55 benkay NO HALP ME
20:56 cads mircea_popescu: haha, that would be a lovely blog
20:56 benkay this channel really burnt a solid day talking about sky faeries?
20:56 cads I'm glad I missed that.
20:57 benkay sorta thing drives me to productivity
20:57 benkay and drink.
20:57 benkay but mostly productivity.
20:57 BingoBoingo cads: Prolly read some Thales
20:58 cads The philosopher?
20:59 BingoBoingo cads: He made good business
20:59 cads As a fifth tier entrepreneur, I have decided to rewire my mushy brain with the classic modes of thought!
20:59 cads BingoBoingo: seems like this guy is good to read as part of one's culture studies
21:00 BingoBoingo cads: How he made his fortune is worth looking into
21:00 bloctoc how does one pronounce Mircea Popescu?
21:00 cads The first known individual to which a mathematical discovery is attributed.
21:01 cads bloctoc: MrrrrrRrrrRR-CEA PPppPppscu
21:01 cads while grovveling
21:01 cads and crying
21:02 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-02-2014#487676
21:02 ozbot #bitcoin-assets log
21:02 mircea_popescu bloctoc ^
21:03 bloctoc thanks! now I can phone in my reports to the viceroy
21:10 cads huh, I need to look into algorithmically summarizing the log file
21:12 cads I think I'm naturally half dyslexic and half autistic because I can't read fast, especially when you throw social contexts into the mix and especially when there are multiple speakers
21:12 cads sometimes I can barely keep up in real time with a medium load, 5 speaker IRC conversation
21:13 cads sometimes I use text to speech to help reduce to brain load
21:14 thestringpuller i should play sad music
21:14 thestringpuller !ticker m s.mpoe
21:14 assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00095605 / 0.00096103 / 0.00096895 (962115 shares, 924.62 BTC), 7D: 0.00093355 / 0.00094921 / 0.00096895 (6220253 shares, 5,904.36 BTC), 30D: 0.000745 / 0.00088782 / 0.00096895 (28968485 shares, 25,718.87 BTC)
21:14 cads anyways, more recently I've heard about this 18 year old kid that sold his text summarization company Summly to Yahoo for 30 million bucks
21:14 jborkl http://www.gamespot.com/articles/5-year-old-cracks-xbox-one-security-by-discovering-simple-flaw/1100-6418774/
21:14 ozbot 5-year-old cracks Xbox One security by discovering simple flaw - GameSpot
21:14 thestringpuller you seem to type just fine cads
21:14 cads typing works well
21:15 cads about 60-70 wpm, I'm happy with that
21:15 mircea_popescu cads if text to speec hreduces your brain load you need to go back to school.
21:15 cazalla i believe the summly kid is from australia
21:15 mircea_popescu learn to read yo.
21:15 cads mircea_popescu: I've always been a heavy reader, it's honest to goodness just the switching social contexts that do it
21:16 jborkl Now we know how msft hacks, just leave the password blank
21:17 mircea_popescu cads i can see it. needs practice tho
21:18 cads not a bad thing if I happen to also take measures to increase the effective bandwidth of the text I read
21:18 cads another area I could improve on is being taken in by heavy use of jargon
21:19 benkay just set scam filters to trigger hard when jargon appears
21:19 cads but that's because I tend to fill in the details with the actual real work I've read dealing with the terms
21:20 cads and fool myself that the author really means something
21:20 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: what is the ad space cost on bitbet?
21:20 cads benkay: I live and breath jargon :)
21:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83000 @ 0.00097009 = 80.5175 BTC [+] {7}
21:22 cads oh, hey, this reminds me
21:22 cads idea I've had for a while
21:22 bounce ok, lower bound is still 405925: all silvers are small, one year, all anons are yearly. upper bound is now 907675: all silvers are large, all anons are lifetime, and 3 years of dues for the yearlies
21:22 cads i want to teach math in a virtual pirate math university
21:22 cads where our library is a virtual library of pirated shiz
21:22 cads and our teachers are just kids on the net
21:22 thestringpuller da fuq you on about?
21:23 cads being Professor Cads in an underground university
21:23 mircea_popescu thestringpuller minium of .1, rotation based on what you pay
21:24 thestringpuller is that for like what a month?
21:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2001 @ 0.0001482 = 0.2965 BTC [+] {8}
21:31 kakobrekla yes
21:32 bounce (assuming the industry memberships are lifetime, doesn't say one way or the other)
21:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1500 @ 0.0001488 = 0.2232 BTC [+]
21:34 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/these-fucktards-have-to-be-immortalised-theyre-worse-than-dr-foreskin-even/
21:34 ozbot These fucktards have to be immortalised, they’re worse than Dr. Foreskin even pe Trilema - Un blog
21:34 mircea_popescu surf fund and topics.
21:35 cazalla did you see their office?
21:35 cazalla https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOSHM25CUAExszy.jpg
21:35 mircea_popescu dude what fucking difference does it make.
21:36 mircea_popescu i know plenty of quite competend hedgies that don't even have an office.
21:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 582 @ 0.00558241 = 3.249 BTC [-] {20}
21:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 408 @ 0.00540766 = 2.2063 BTC [-] {9}
21:42 thestringpuller lol you're better off investing blindly on bets in bitbet than investing it with tards on teh forum
21:42 thestringpuller !ticker m s.bbet
21:42 assbot [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00056 / 0.00056 / 0.00056 (2 shares, 0.00 BTC), 30D: 0.00045 / 0.00049074 / 0.00059 (12152 shares, 5.96 BTC)
21:43 mircea_popescu prolly.
21:46 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/762/neobee-orphaned-in-2014/
21:46 ozbot BitBet - NeoBee Orphaned in 2014
21:46 mircea_popescu whoever made that thing knew.
21:48 kakobrekla thestringpuller just copy the mods really.
21:50 thestringpuller lolol
21:51 kakobrekla what is so funny
21:51 thestringpuller that placing bets on bitbet is likely to have a greater yield than with the scam mp just presented
21:51 thestringpuller can't help but laugh...
21:52 mircea_popescu not even a scam, just kids being tarded.
22:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.06598907 = 0.3299 BTC [-]
22:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.037 = 0.185 BTC [-]
~ 24 minutes ~
22:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.0731 = 0.1462 BTC [-]
~ 18 minutes ~
22:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.07939999 = 0.1588 BTC [+] {2}
22:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17078 @ 0.00097224 = 16.6039 BTC [+]
22:56 MisterE 8 hours of takeoffs @ LAX https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BkKsmc5IcAA0c8X.jpg:large
~ 20 minutes ~
23:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 8407 @ 0.0001096 = 0.9214 BTC [-] {16}
23:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1600 @ 0.00009919 = 0.1587 BTC [-] {4}
23:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15140 @ 0.00097257 = 14.7247 BTC [+] {2}
23:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00096578 = 5.2152 BTC [-]
~ 19 minutes ~
23:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 57 @ 0.0075 = 0.4275 BTC [+] {2}
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