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00:00 BingoBoingo Well, he slathered around several ideas
00:00 CheckDavid Possible
00:00 punkman each worth 49 cents
00:00 CheckDavid Well keys not talk about him. I can't represent all his ideas :)
00:01 CheckDavid *let's
00:01 punkman keys open doors
00:01 CheckDavid Lool
00:06 VanCleef http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/03/apps-with-millions-of-google-play-downloads-covertly-mine-cryptocurrency/
00:06 ozbot Apps with millions of Google Play downloads covertly mine cryptocurrency | Ars Technica
00:08 punkman is ther a scamcoin optimized for phones yet?
00:08 punkman would make sense
00:10 BingoBoingo punkman: at some point in the past I played with a crypto that lived on a single nokia phone
00:14 punkman BingoBoingo: did that ever have a higher marketcap than litecoin?
00:15 BingoBoingo punkman: Well, there was one coin mined and then difficulty adjusted such that a second coin would be impossibru
00:15 BingoBoingo punkman: WOuld the cost of the phone count?
00:16 punkman I don't see why not
00:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [-]
00:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.60500012 = 3.63 BTC [-]
00:17 Mats_cd03 some smartphones have a surprising amount of horsepower
00:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00094547 = 4.3964 BTC [-]
00:18 BingoBoingo Mats_cd03: Two words on this phone, resistive touchscreen.
00:18 BingoBoingo Dunno if this "coin" could have even survived an internet connection
00:19 Mats_cd03 on the subject of cool phones, i want to buy an oppo phone now
00:19 punkman Mats_cd03: the trick would be that only a phone can mine the coin reasonably fast, so you can use your phone botnet to make some easy money
00:20 punkman rather than making dogecents
00:21 Mats_cd03 a clever malware writer would optimize certain scamcoins for mining based on the presence of a gpu
00:22 BingoBoingo A clever malware writer could start a phone card bsns based on hijacked phones
00:27 Mats_cd03 and how would that work
00:37 Apocalyptic http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/03/26/cryptorush-support-worker-leaks-inside-info/
00:38 Apocalyptic " : he started by announcing 60% shareholding
00:38 Apocalyptic : but he actually owns only 10%”
00:38 Apocalyptic "
00:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63473 @ 0.00094825 = 60.1883 BTC [+] {5}
00:46 tg2 I have an opengl scrypt implementation, works on gpu in webgl, opengl es
00:47 tg2 My snapdragon 800 gets like 30kh/s
00:47 tg2 But gets hot
00:48 tg2 Would be nice on a rogue app with a lot of install base
00:48 tg2 Can run it only when phone is plugged in etc
00:50 Mats_cd03 thats not bad
00:50 tg2 Working on an x11 Version of it
00:51 tg2 Cause you could actually mine an x11 coin on a phone cpu/gpu without melting it and get good hashes
00:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 66 @ 0.0061 = 0.4026 BTC [-]
00:52 tg2 Sneaky tg already working on your ideas for 2 months now
00:52 tg2 If anybody has an app with huge install base lemme know
00:54 BingoBoingo tg2: Do you have any ventures that might need a persistent exposure to the core Bitcoin community?
00:56 tg2 I have many, some are still in lab right now like this one in particular
00:56 tg2 some are less than ethical and I wouldn't discuss here
00:57 BingoBoingo tg2: For a more ethical one you might want to consider http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/03/21/a-fundraiser-because-this-is-way-to-young-to-have-a-paywall-but-hosting-isnt-free/
00:58 tg2 I had an open offer on dogecoin for people to pitch me their ideas and have a few promising projects from that
00:58 tg2 just registeted truecrypto.com and shopbit.net
00:58 BingoBoingo I have trouble connecting the idea of "dogecoin" and "people"
00:59 tg2 Hah, I can't fault you
00:59 tg2 I hate dogecoin and I'm one of the top 25 holders of it
00:59 BingoBoingo Yeah
00:59 BingoBoingo Last year I was in a similar position with Devcoin
00:59 tg2 You want to hear a sad story
01:00 BingoBoingo Sure
01:00 tg2 I bought diablo 3 gold at launch for Bitcoins
01:00 BingoBoingo Damn, already sad
01:00 tg2 50 bitcoins worth
01:00 BingoBoingo Fuckity fuck fuck
01:00 tg2 30m diablo 3 gold
01:01 BingoBoingo And
01:01 tg2 go do a quick price check on diablo 3 gold
01:01 tg2 lol
01:01 BingoBoingo Fuck
01:01 assbot Last 11 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1758620/plain/)
01:01 BingoBoingo !b 11
01:01 tg2 Spoiler, it's not worth 30k
01:02 VanCleef anyone log into havelock?
01:02 punkman is it $30?
01:02 tg2 No
01:02 tg2 It's about $2 for 100m or something
01:02 tg2 I haven't checked in a while
01:02 punkman welcome to Zimbabwe
01:03 BingoBoingo I actually last year made a decent trading Eve Isk for S.MPOE and then BTC
01:03 tg2 Diablo 3 was the game that made me realise I can't recapture the elation I used to have for games
01:03 tg2 sad on many levels
01:03 BingoBoingo I dunno, I'm kind of liking The Stick of Truth
01:03 tg2 SimCity reaffirmed it
01:04 Mats_cd03 sim city used to be good?
01:04 tg2 Oh boy
01:04 VanCleef how good is mr slaves ass level
01:04 tg2 Gonna pretend you didn't say that
01:04 tg2 Sc2000.exe
01:04 tg2 Right in the childhood
01:05 tg2 i386
01:05 bitcoinpete ;;later tell mircea_popescu: shift return! aha! the learning never stops. ty for the feedback :D
01:05 gribble The operation succeeded.
01:06 BingoBoingo VanCleef: Not that far yet. My Jew is just Jewing around.
01:06 tg2 Anyway I'm not even old
01:06 tg2 Ctrl+backspace
01:06 BingoBoingo tg2: What are some BTC ventures you aren't afraid of mentioning?
01:07 tg2 Not many I suppose
01:07 tg2 with what intent
01:07 tg2 I'm sure I'll get to know you guys better
01:07 Mats_cd03 lol...
01:08 tg2 I really know nobody here I just heard about this chan 3 times from 3 different people
01:08 BingoBoingo tg2: Well with the intent of promoting them.
01:08 tg2 And they were all surprised I wasn't in it
01:08 tg2 promoting, PR?
01:08 tg2 I have my own ad network lol I don't need promotion
01:08 BingoBoingo tg2: Really this isn't a channel where your ideas will get scooped unless you explicitly say "hey you guys scoop me on this"
01:09 tg2 yeah I keep cards close to the chest
01:09 tg2 good ones anyway
01:09 tg2 if you hear an idea from my it's my 2-7 off suit
01:10 xdotcomm_ you guys do scooping here
01:10 Mats_cd03 what a special snowflake
01:10 BingoBoingo xdotcomm_: No, we make news here
01:10 tg2 SEC news
01:10 tg2 The good kind, you know
01:10 BingoBoingo tg2: Other news well before then
01:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18583 @ 0.00095084 = 17.6695 BTC [+] {3}
01:11 VanCleef is there something wrong wtih havelock website atm or is it just me?
01:11 BingoBoingo Never really had a need to use it ever VanCleef
01:11 tg2 It seemed really slow when I was on it earlier and I'm on a very fat pipe
01:11 xdotcomm_ cryptorush is titsup
01:12 VanCleef ok cool thanks
01:12 VanCleef yeh wont even load
01:12 tg2 yeah cryptorush drama. I don't get why we don't have a centralized trust exchange yet
01:12 VanCleef what happened to cryptorush, sorry i mised it
01:13 xdotcomm_ wtf i though u made the new here
01:13 xdotcomm_ BingoBoingo: u on this or what?
01:13 BingoBoingo VanCleef: Run by walmart's finest, ended like an abortus
01:14 BingoBoingo xdotcomm_: What sort of news are you expecting?
01:14 VanCleef link?
01:14 VanCleef to bitcointalk or something
01:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23549 @ 0.0009439 = 22.2279 BTC [-] {3}
01:14 xdotcomm_ VanCleef: http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/03/26/cryptorush-support-worker-leaks-inside-info/
01:14 VanCleef thanks
01:14 xdotcomm_ BingoBoingo: I dunno some supery cyber stuff
01:15 xdotcomm_ http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/21ejkh/scam_exchange_cryptorush_implodes_with_epic_drama/
01:16 xdotcomm_ u know whats funny i had like 5mil COINYE on cryptorush
01:17 Apocalyptic hum, been looking for a coin to add to x-bt that isn't an outright scam
01:17 Apocalyptic it's kinda hard to find one so far
01:17 VanCleef ok, just another normal week in bitcoin world
01:17 xdotcomm_ yea only 3 now is BTC / LTC /DOGE all other is toxic trash
01:17 xdotcomm_ https://chunkhost.com/blog/15/huge_security_hole_in_sendgrid
01:17 ozbot Huge Security Hole in Sendgrid – ChunkHost
01:17 Apocalyptic xdotcomm_, NMC is legit
01:17 Apocalyptic and so is ATC
01:17 xdotcomm_ yea
01:18 xdotcomm_ Apocalyptic: i agree on NMC i like the idea
01:18 xdotcomm_ i wish it would work
01:18 BingoBoingo http://trilema.com/2014/robert-keith-cristopher-jr-matt-sartain-kristian-thomson-cryptorush-much-comedy-lulzgoldmine/
01:18 ozbot Robert Keith Cristopher, Jr ; Matt Sartain ; Kristian Thomson ; Cryptorush : much comedy & lulzgoldm
01:18 Apocalyptic looks like Primecoin was Sunnyking's first attempt at a coin before he moved to Peercoin & other stuff
01:18 xdotcomm_ people try to get into sendgrid of a hosting provider to get access to sites hosted
01:19 xdotcomm_ its going to get alot more complex
01:19 xdotcomm_ i wish people would stop running exchanges without owning hardware
01:19 tg2 https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=17948.0
01:19 tg2 Discourse welcome!
01:20 BingoBoingo Apocalyptic: The thing now called peercoin came first, but it was called PPC at its origin
01:20 Apocalyptic BingoBoingo, I see
01:20 tg2 xdotcomm_ social engineering will always remain my favorite means of hacking
01:20 xdotcomm_ tg2: ur breeliant
01:20 BingoBoingo Apocalyptic: It was short for PPCoin
01:20 Apocalyptic BingoBoingo, do you know if Devcoin is well maintained ?
01:21 xdotcomm_ tg2: people are easier to hack then code :)
01:21 moiety i lasted under two hours before i gave up tonight BingoBoingo this is harder than it used to be lol
01:21 tg2 Guess you haven't seen the code I've seen lol
01:21 Apocalyptic <xdotcomm_> i wish people would stop running exchanges without owning hardware // that's not even the biggest issue
01:21 BingoBoingo Apocalyptic: It isn't well at all. Also has past association with scammers like cablepair
01:21 xdotcomm_ Apocalyptic: not the biggest but one of
01:21 Apocalyptic xdotcomm_, these people don't really know what they are doing to begin with
01:22 Apocalyptic somehow they got an idea
01:22 tg2 If you are running your Bitcoin empire on a vps shame on you
01:22 tg2 you deserve it
01:22 Apocalyptic tg2, if on linode your deserve it twice as much ?
01:22 tg2 Hah, doubly!
01:22 Apocalyptic BingoBoingo, I suspected as much
01:22 xdotcomm_ tg2: seriously ur report is good.. hopefully it will get some good peer reviews
01:23 tg2 Review on, peers
01:23 tg2 People get so bent out of shape without understanding manufacturing fundamentals
01:23 tg2 It's my good deed for the day
01:24 tg2 Ignorance is bliss unless you have a vested interest lol
01:24 Apocalyptic I might be forced to conclude there is just no coin worth adding at this time
01:24 tg2 Apocalyptic, adding to...?
01:24 Apocalyptic x-bt.com
01:24 Apocalyptic my exchange
01:25 tg2 Who pen tested it
01:25 Apocalyptic feel free to :) I did
01:25 tg2 if you're serious about it
01:25 tg2 I have some serious people that do white hat
01:25 Apocalyptic i like to think i have a serious background in infosec
01:26 xdotcomm_ Apocalyptic: yea whats ur credin?
01:26 Apocalyptic tg2, i have no issue if they wish to run some things
01:26 xdotcomm_ I always ask
01:26 tg2 Recon.cx boys, but they don't work for free
01:26 tg2 if there are some bitcoins in there don't worry somebody will pen test it for you
01:26 tg2 Lol
01:27 Apocalyptic <tg2> if there are some bitcoins in there don't worry somebody will pen test it for you // there is a hot wallet
01:28 Apocalyptic xdotcomm_, I used to be really into it, did some defcon level CTFs with a team
01:28 tg2 How is cold storage processing txns
01:28 Apocalyptic mainly specialized in crypto and x86 reversing
01:28 xdotcomm_ Apocalyptic: github?
01:28 xdotcomm_ web is deifferent beast
01:28 Apocalyptic web-based sec is kinda boring
01:29 xdotcomm_ Apocalyptic: u think that nginx is safe?
01:29 Apocalyptic i think it's one of the best webservers
01:29 Apocalyptic define safe
01:29 xdotcomm_ jquery.min.map
01:29 xdotcomm_ /js
01:29 xdotcomm_ GET
01:29 xdotcomm_ 404
01:29 xdotcomm_ Not Found
01:29 tg2 Nginx has no vulns known
01:29 xdotcomm_ text/html
01:29 xdotcomm_ Other
01:29 xdotcomm_ 341 B
01:29 xdotcomm_ 162 B
01:29 xdotcomm_ 526 ms
01:29 xdotcomm_ 524 ms
01:29 xdotcomm_ 524 ms1 ms
01:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.0728899 = 1.2391 BTC [-]
01:29 tg2 Shtap
01:29 xdotcomm_ missing files?
01:30 xdotcomm_ Cookie:PHPSESSID=j8i2u3e6khl9g839rl8dgh4u22
01:30 tg2 I don't think there has been a root vuln on nginx in a while
01:30 tg2 very mature core
01:30 xdotcomm_ tg2: that u know of
01:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.10144642 = 0.5072 BTC [-]
01:30 tg2 Never trust your webserver anyway
01:31 tg2 it's not a first class citizen
01:31 tg2 Jail
01:31 tg2 Make sure web app is coded properly
01:31 xdotcomm_ dont escape your queries
01:32 Apocalyptic <xdotcomm_> jquery.min.map // where do you get this file ?
01:32 tg2 Lol
01:32 xdotcomm_ Apocalyptic: ur website it calls it
01:32 tg2 jquery requests it
01:32 tg2 grab from Google
01:32 xdotcomm_ event.returnValue is deprecated. Please use the standard event.preventDefault() instead. jquery.js:3
01:32 xdotcomm_ Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 404 (Not Found)
01:32 tg2 it's part of the split
01:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.10144642 = 0.4058 BTC [-]
01:32 tg2 when they split jquery min
01:32 tg2 They put some shit in map
01:33 xdotcomm_ spits shit in my chrome console
01:33 tg2 Had the same problem on a bootstrap site
01:33 tg2 What's the volume on x-bt?
01:33 Apocalyptic depends on the market
01:34 xdotcomm_ Apocalyptic: y u use ovh dns?
01:34 Apocalyptic the most active one is ATC/BTC thanks to asseteers here
01:34 tg2 Chicken and egg huh
01:34 Apocalyptic xdotcomm_, cause ovh is where i registered it ?
01:34 xdotcomm_ sounds safe
01:34 tg2 Put darkcoin on it
01:34 Apocalyptic (and no there is no ovh box in the infra)
01:35 xdotcomm_ 3rd party dns is always good
01:35 tg2 Ovh failover ip's make me rage so much
01:35 xdotcomm_ i recommend especially och
01:35 xdotcomm_ ovh
01:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18050 @ 0.00094266 = 17.015 BTC [-]
01:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.0161 = 0.161 BTC [-]
01:35 benkay tg2: centralized trust exchange lolwutf?
01:35 tg2 but 399/mo for a dual e5v2 10core with 256G of ram is juicy
01:36 tg2 Decentralized
01:36 xdotcomm_ yea p2p exchange
01:36 xdotcomm_ wallet
01:36 tg2 Why are people retweeting my shit days later
01:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 14 @ 0.01600071 = 0.224 BTC [-] {3}
01:37 tg2 Learn 2social bros
01:37 xdotcomm_ tg2: cause ur tweets are classic
01:37 tg2 They get cooler over time
01:38 xdotcomm_ like that gospel
01:38 tg2 I don't even think I'd trust ovh with wallet keys though
01:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 30 @ 0.016 = 0.48 BTC [-]
01:39 benkay asserting: CheckDavid is ninjashogun
01:39 Apocalyptic xdotcomm_, curiously enough the missing js file doesn't seem to prevent the js from running correctly
01:39 tg2 takes those fucks 2 days to give a new ripe block
01:39 Apocalyptic <tg2> I don't even think I'd trust ovh with wallet keys though // probably wise
01:39 tg2 Smooth assertion
01:39 Apocalyptic davout could elaborate on that
01:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.05589999 = 0.2795 BTC [+]
01:40 tg2 Who is that benkay?
01:40 xdotcomm_ Apocalyptic: just letting u know man.. I dont care either way.. I had an exchange with proper engine coded month ago... dont feel like launching it cause the paranoi is not the state i wanna be in 24/7
01:40 benkay xdotcomm_: what is this report you mention?
01:40 benkay tg2: before your time.
01:40 Apocalyptic xdotcomm_, I know how you feel heh
01:40 tg2 Enlighten me
01:40 Apocalyptic I can assure you my engine is properly coded too
01:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0479 = 0.2395 BTC [+]
01:41 xdotcomm_ Apocalyptic: how u match trades?
01:41 xdotcomm_ benkay: report?
01:41 Apocalyptic it's been running for almost a year now, with a pause in summer
01:41 benkay xdotcomm_: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-03-2014&bots=true#584749
01:41 tg2 Why no volume
01:41 Apocalyptic ^ ask them alt traders
01:41 xdotcomm_ benkay: https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=17948.0
01:41 benkay tg2: pay me.
01:41 xdotcomm_ haha
01:41 Apocalyptic tg2, because they want to flit the new hotest scamcoin available ?
01:42 xdotcomm_ lol
01:42 xdotcomm_ its oepn asuce
01:42 benkay tg2: or read logs. your call.
01:42 xdotcomm_ Apocalyptic: i mean what methods u use to match trades
01:42 tg2 I read them
01:42 BingoBoingo For the newer readers, the complete list of Cryptocurrency blogs that matter http://trilema.com/2014/people-have-made-blogs/
01:42 xdotcomm_ and if u do it in c?
01:42 Apocalyptic tg2, and get funds "stolen" like in coinex, cryptorush, openex and so on.. seems more fun i'm sure
01:42 xdotcomm_ trojancoins...
01:42 Apocalyptic xdotcomm_, what methods ? It matches orders as it should match them
01:43 xdotcomm_ Apocalyptic: by time placed?
01:43 Apocalyptic xdotcomm_, for the same price yes of course
01:43 Mats_cd03 we need some sort of fee to prevent dummies from typing in here
01:44 Apocalyptic it's not time but ID if I recall, cause the time doesn't have enough granularity
01:44 Mats_cd03 seriously what is going on? "how to match trades with c"
01:44 xdotcomm_ Mats_cd03: do u even know what ur saying
01:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 169 @ 0.00278995 = 0.4715 BTC [+]
01:45 Mats_cd03 no apparently im coked to the fucking gills
01:45 xdotcomm_ Mats_cd03: pass me ur supplier
01:45 xdotcomm_ for the noobs Mats_cd03 http://www.eurexchange.com/exchange-en/trading/market-model/matching-principles/
01:46 xdotcomm_ there is more then one way
01:46 xdotcomm_ you cant do it properly in php/js
01:46 benkay Mats_cd03: just ignore everyone sub 1 in your Wot.
01:47 xdotcomm_ so either c or c++ would be the best way
01:47 BingoBoingo xdotcomm_: What about GNU Guile?
01:47 xdotcomm_ I do it on my toaster typically
01:47 xdotcomm_ I trade penut butter for jelly
01:47 BingoBoingo Or SBCL?
01:47 benkay ;;gettrust tg2
01:47 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user tg2: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=tg2 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=tg2 | Rated since: never
01:47 benkay haw
01:47 BingoBoingo ;;gettrust chatquack
01:47 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user BingoBoingo to user chatquack: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=BingoBoingo&dest=chatquack | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=chatquack | Rated since: Tue Feb 25 20:04:18 2014
01:48 BingoBoingo ;;gettrust xdotcomm_
01:48 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user BingoBoingo to user xdotcomm_: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=BingoBoingo&dest=xdotcomm_ | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=xdotcomm_ | Rated since: never
01:48 xdotcomm_ I am level 0
01:48 xdotcomm_ !
01:48 BingoBoingo ;;gettrust benkay
01:48 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user BingoBoingo to user benkay: Level 1: 2, Level 2: 3 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=BingoBoingo&dest=benkay | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=benkay | Rated since: Sun Mar 10 13:57:45 2013
01:48 Mats_cd03 i dont have a wot yet benkay
01:48 tg2 Scrub level trust
01:49 BingoBoingo ;;gettrust mircea_popescu
01:49 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user BingoBoingo to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 6, Level 2: 11 via 7 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=BingoBoingo&dest=mircea_popescu | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mircea_popescu | Rated since: Fri Jul 22 11:04:26 2011
01:49 benkay Mats_cd03: trust is complex and not solely dependent on wot
01:49 xdotcomm_ BingoBoingo: I trust tg2 how do i vte for him
01:49 benkay har socks trusting socks trusting socks
01:49 benkay you lurk
01:49 benkay contribute
01:49 xdotcomm_ ok
01:49 tg2 16156 days
01:49 benkay exceed like 6 mos or something
01:49 tg2 Wat
01:49 benkay identity is a function of raters, ratings and duration
01:49 tg2 That would make me a btc advocate before btc existed
01:50 benkay methinks you miss the point.
01:50 benkay computers have a hard time with infinity.
01:50 tg2 Hah ok give me 5 minutes I'll prove beyond a shadow of a doubt
01:50 benkay prove what?
01:50 tg2 I'll pm you
01:50 benkay that you can make a gpg key?
01:50 tg2 No, better
01:50 tg2 hold on
01:50 benkay identity is a journey, not a hurdle.
01:51 tg2 Hold up lemme get a my sin out
01:51 benkay (conj 'list-of-ninjashogun-suspected-socks 'tg2)
01:52 Apocalyptic dem socks
01:52 benkay i'm halfway expecting a satoshi hoard signature at this point, but that'd be too good.
01:52 Apocalyptic haha
01:52 benkay a vanity address from back in the day?
01:53 BingoBoingo benkay: All to likely twist, Satoshi never mined to addresses he held private keys to
01:53 benkay nigga please satoshi threw those keys away long ago
01:53 benkay only way to ensure success
01:54 benkay brother's way more interested in success than personal wealth
01:54 benkay success = some crazy fn
01:54 BingoBoingo ;;google the drinking record barrel fire
01:54 gribble Fire Hydrant Operation and Inspection - Acrp.com: <https://www.acrp.com/downloads/dso4.pdf>; Fire hydrant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_hydrant>; Lammers Barrel Factory - US Environmental Protection Agency: <http://www.epa.gov/region5/superfund/npl/ohio/OHD981537582.html>
01:54 BingoBoingo I am disapoint
01:54 benkay dorp
01:54 benkay that's what you get for relying on teh gewgs
01:54 BingoBoingo http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2013/10/14/a-proper-barrel-fire-a-secure-way-to-dispose-of-data-storage/
01:55 ozbot A Proper Barrel Fire: A secure way to dispose of data storage | Bingo Blog
01:55 BingoBoingo Prolly the post I am proudest of
02:00 xdotcomm_ where dem satoshi codes
02:02 tg2 inb4 satoshi sig
02:03 benkay tg2: please dox yourself.
02:03 benkay xdotcomm_: please dox yourself.
02:04 xdotcomm_ benkay: dox?
02:04 benkay ;;ud dox
02:04 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dox | Dox, or being doxed, in terms of online forum sites, is the physical equivalent of being butt-raped irl. Just as all the greats have, when a person is "doxed", ...
02:04 ozbot Urban Dictionary: dox
02:05 benkay don't make me google for you.
02:05 tg2 google on good sir
02:05 tg2 gewg it up
02:06 tg2 ain't nobody bending over backwards in here to prove who they are or aren't
02:06 benkay was that intended to be from xdotcomm_, tg2?
02:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19950 @ 0.00095035 = 18.9595 BTC [+] {2}
02:06 tg2 take it for what it's worth
02:06 benkay the vast majority of us are trivially doxxable.
02:06 tg2 dox on
02:06 benkay no, that's not the point.
02:07 benkay the point is confirming that this isn't a sustained social engineering attack.
02:07 xdotcomm_ lol
02:07 xdotcomm_ on what?
02:07 tg2 ok hold the phone
02:07 tg2 haha
02:07 tg2 i want to hear what this is we're attacking
02:07 tg2 lemme get some popcorn
02:07 BingoBoingo ;;ident
02:07 xdotcomm_ i am going to watch bearing sea gold
02:07 gribble Nick 'BingoBoingo', with hostmask 'BingoBoingo!~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo', is identified as user 'BingoBoingo', with GPG key id 309BB8D7F3251143, key fingerprint ADD7A9A28F85E5EF1F51904F309BB8D7F3251143, and bitcoin address None
02:07 tg2 lol
02:07 tg2 watch underice one
02:07 tg2 its good
02:07 BingoBoingo ;;ident tg2
02:07 gribble Nick 'tg2', with hostmask 'tg2!~tg2@205.204.66.35', is not identified.
02:08 tg2 that ip is my netrange
02:08 BingoBoingo ;;ident xdotcomm_
02:08 gribble Nick 'xdotcomm_', with hostmask 'xdotcomm_!~xdotcomme@bas1-montreal51-1167905977.dsl.bell.ca', is not identified.
02:08 tg2 you'll see that it is in montreal
02:08 xdotcomm_ not really hiding
02:08 xdotcomm_ bell dsl
02:08 BingoBoingo ;;ident benkay
02:08 gribble Nick 'benkay', with hostmask 'benkay!~user@67-5-243-186.ptld.qwest.net', is not identified.
02:08 tg2 super bell dsl proxies
02:08 benkay ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:86dbd1c410f4c909038fe2522989ebb330ba68bb7ead5be28b8a1eab
02:08 gribble You are now authenticated for user benkay with key 39F274AFBC7ACAC7
02:08 Apocalyptic xdotcomm_, was that you that got banned from -dev some days ago because you were trying to build a dogecoin explorer and wanted to know how to get the "FROM address" ?
02:08 xdotcomm_ Apocalyptic: :)
02:08 tg2 bustedddd
02:09 xdotcomm_ he got me
02:09 tg2 you ended up getting it to work tho right
02:09 benkay this is how this works
02:09 benkay you either wot
02:09 benkay or you walk
02:09 xdotcomm_ I am the doge guy i admit
02:09 BingoBoingo ;;rated benkay
02:09 gribble You rated user benkay on Wed Mar 5 02:09:53 2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: Good at things he does.
02:09 xdotcomm_ we come here to promote doge
02:09 Apocalyptic I have a particulary good memory for nicks
02:09 benkay ;;rated BingoBoingo
02:09 gribble You rated user BingoBoingo on Tue Mar 4 02:06:59 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: good sport wot wot.
02:09 xdotcomm_ Makes sense
02:09 xdotcomm_ the dox system
02:09 xdotcomm_ let me know
02:09 benkay ;;rated mircea_popescu
02:09 gribble You rated user mircea_popescu on Mon Mar 3 02:50:38 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: None.
02:09 tg2 lemme just upload my passprot
02:09 xdotcomm_ Not hiding
02:09 benkay ;;gettrust mircea_popescu
02:09 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 5 via 5 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=mircea_popescu | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mircea_popescu | Rated since: Fri Jul 22 11:04:26 2011
02:09 tg2 lez do it
02:10 BingoBoingo ;;rated mircea_popescu
02:10 gribble You rated user mircea_popescu on Wed Mar 5 02:09:07 2014, with a rating of 6, and supplied these additional notes: Rating upgraded for continued excellence in Bitcoin ventures.
02:10 xdotcomm_ mtgox has my recent copy.. so does everyone else I get
02:10 BingoBoingo ;;rated asciilifeform
02:10 gribble You rated user asciilifeform on Sun Nov 24 22:09:43 2013, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: Making computing sane.
02:10 benkay ;;gettrust xdotcomm_
02:10 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user xdotcomm_: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=xdotcomm_ | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=xdotcomm_ | Rated since: never
02:10 tg2 lol
02:10 benkay ;;gettrust tg2
02:10 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user tg2: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=tg2 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=tg2 | Rated since: never
02:10 tg2 so you want us to wot up
02:10 benkay us!
02:10 xdotcomm_ is there a how to on this?
02:10 benkay what is this us?
02:10 Apocalyptic <xdotcomm_> mtgox has my recent copy.. so does everyone else I get // a fair assumption
02:10 tg2 i know xdotcomm_
02:11 tg2 we're both active in crypto
02:11 benkay a bold claim for unregistered handles.
02:11 tg2 I'm reg'd on freenode
02:11 xdotcomm_ there is crypto outside of bitcoin
02:11 benkay yeah but this is bitcoin.
02:11 benkay (sparta)
02:11 xdotcomm_ i am reged on freenode too
02:11 benkay (bitcoin)
02:11 benkay so am i
02:11 xdotcomm_ benkay: we come with gifts
02:11 benkay big f'n whoop
02:11 tg2 so you just want us to reg on WOT?
02:11 Apocalyptic tg2, so you're a doge promoter too ?
02:11 tg2 i don't see what that will achieve
02:11 benkay no, you build an identity.
02:11 BingoBoingo xdotcomm_: Well, did you do RSA? ECC?
02:12 benkay there's about a light year of difference.
02:12 xdotcomm_ i do mostly brick and mortar security
02:12 tg2 ok I just dont' see why registering on WOT and vouching for eachotehr does anything if there is no trust to begin with
02:12 tg2 is that not the point of WOT?
02:12 benkay precisely.
02:12 xdotcomm_ I dont mind WOT tbh
02:12 benkay this doesn't change overnight.
02:12 tg2 I'll WOT Up
02:12 xdotcomm_ is there a how to?
02:12 benkay ;;help
02:12 gribble The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/
02:12 tg2 I'll wot you so hard
02:12 Apocalyptic Bingo has one
02:13 tg2 gonna wot this bitch up so hard
02:13 benkay ;;gpg
02:13 gribble Error: "gpg" is not a valid command.
02:13 tg2 yall gonna be in my WOT in no time
02:13 benkay great
02:13 benkay welcome to the club
02:13 BingoBoingo ;;google Bingo Blog GPG guide
02:13 gribble PGP/GPG Guide | Bingo Blog: <http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/pgpgpg-guide/>; Bingo Blog | - of Bitcoin and Boingo: <http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/>; PGP Public Key | Bingo Blog: <http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/pgp/>
02:14 xdotcomm_ !help
02:14 assbot List of commands:
02:14 assbot !ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}
02:14 assbot !last <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l}
02:14 assbot !mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
02:14 assbot !rules <nick/chan> (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r}
02:14 assbot !exchanges <nick/chan> (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e}
02:14 assbot !jd (desc: returns relevant stats from https://just-dice.com)
02:14 assbot !bash <lines> (desc: bashes last <lines> lines to bash) {short: !b}
02:14 assbot !quote <lines> (desc: quotes last <lines> lines and returns dpaste url) {short: !q}
02:14 tg2 can I just use my email pgp that I already have?
02:14 tg2 or beter to reg a new one just for this?
02:14 tg2 or does it matter
02:15 benkay all things worthy of consideration
02:15 benkay tanstaafl
02:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00095022 = 3.9909 BTC [-]
02:15 Apocalyptic you can use whatever gpg key you have a private key for
02:15 xdotcomm_ ill doo this tomorow .. to seems complicated
02:16 BingoBoingo ;;lasers
02:16 gribble ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
02:16 xdotcomm_ there is no short guide etc
02:16 tg2 is this necessary for anything?
02:16 benkay only relevance, tg2.
02:16 xdotcomm_ to establish rappor
02:16 tg2 tbh trust is gained over time without pgp keys
02:16 BingoBoingo tg2: If you have to ask you can't afford it.
02:16 xdotcomm_ so they dont think ur trolling them
02:16 tg2 shall we sport our pgp keys sir
02:16 Apocalyptic http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/GPG_authentication
02:17 ozbot GPG authentication - bitcoin-otc wiki
02:17 Mats_cd03 what a pair of cuties
02:17 tg2 if you guys only knew the half of what we do in crypto lol
02:17 Mats_cd03 do you have matching haircuts too
02:17 xdotcomm_ Mats_cd03: are u the resident troll?
02:17 tg2 i feel like a kid in a new school who has to proove that he's cool
02:17 tg2 this is great
02:17 tg2 I haven't felt this way in a long time
02:18 xdotcomm_ Mats_cd03: dont worry I wont take your spot
02:18 tg2 lol
02:18 bitcoinpete are you boys on osx or windoze?
02:18 tg2 good thought experiment though, how can two people prove they are in fact different people!
02:18 tg2 skype 3 way call?
02:18 tg2 hard to impersonate 2 different people simultaneously!
02:18 xdotcomm_ bitcoinpete: i am on my 3d printer
02:19 BingoBoingo tg2: Each of you writes a secret string on your taint and uploads pics
02:19 benkay the operating theory is that there are two warm bodies behind this.
02:19 xdotcomm_ this is going to happen ... alts are falling we going back to the basics
02:19 tg2 there are
02:19 tg2 I don't see what we're being accused of yet
02:19 xdotcomm_ get used it ... more noobs are coming
02:19 Mats_cd03 tg2: actually i am benkay BingoBoingo bitcoinpete and Apocalyptic
02:19 tg2 other than being friends IRL and being in this chan and both having projects in crypto
02:19 Mats_cd03 its sockpuppets all the way up, sucka
02:19 tg2 fuck props for being able to juggle that ;D
02:19 BingoBoingo ;;ident Mats_cd03
02:19 gribble Nick 'Mats_cd03', with hostmask 'Mats_cd03!sid23029@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uxnesrpwcnqmyhiq', is not identified.
02:20 tg2 there are 2 people in here
02:20 tg2 lol
02:20 BingoBoingo Mats_cd03: Seems you arent
02:20 tg2 just a huge myriad of conversations
02:20 Apocalyptic <xdotcomm_> get used it ... more noobs are coming // can't wait
02:20 tg2 I'd be impressed
02:20 Mats_cd03 its not that youre new, or that you have to be cool
02:20 tg2 what else is there to do when you have an IQ of 180 other than sock puppet with yourself
02:20 xdotcomm_ Apocalyptic: u seem chill we actually did productive stuff
02:20 tg2 amirite
02:20 Mats_cd03 youre boring
02:21 Apocalyptic not denying you did
02:21 xdotcomm_ I am on the crypto grind 24/7 making blockchain explorers while getting head in blockchain explorers
02:22 xdotcomm_ and for reals I am super easy to find verify.. I live a public life
02:22 bitcoinpete i like how there's this whole "why wot, why pgp" when i just wrote a fucking article on it 3 hours ago
02:22 tg2 just not on block-explorer cause that shit is slow ass fuck
02:22 tg2 bitcoinpete, link?
02:22 benkay xdotcomm_: so dox yourself - what's so hard?!
02:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28746 @ 0.00094175 = 27.0715 BTC [-] {3}
02:22 benkay do you need me to go first?
02:22 tg2 what will doxing get?
02:22 Apocalyptic a cookie
02:22 tg2 approval from internet strangers
02:22 tg2 shit sign me up
02:23 tg2 vying so hard
02:23 benkay either you don't get it or you're trolling hard
02:23 bitcoinpete tg2: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-03-2014#584236
02:23 benkay but an amelioration of the suspicion that you're a ninjashogun alt
02:24 bitcoinpete tg2: if you don't need internet strangers and the feeling is mutual, there's really no need
02:24 BingoBoingo bitcoinpete: Consider this an oral defense
02:24 tg2 well, sadly, xdotcomm_ is the only one that can vouch that I'm not him haha
02:25 tg2 and well, ninjashogun himself
02:25 benkay an utterly unremarkable claim.
02:25 tg2 yeah, ubt again, I don't really have much motivation to prove otherwise
02:25 benkay from utterly untrustworthy handles.
02:25 Apocalyptic tg2, so you know the ninja guy IRL too ?
02:25 tg2 so I guess that's that
02:25 tg2 define IRL
02:25 BingoBoingo tg2: You can each write a unique message with a sharpie on your cheeks stick in in your pooper and post pics
02:25 tg2 i have chatted with him on skype
02:25 BingoBoingo Time honored alternative to GPG
02:25 tg2 and spoken to him on skype
02:25 tg2 BingoBoingo, sharpie in pooper
02:25 tg2 legit ident
02:26 tg2 haha
02:26 bitcoinpete bingoboingo: lol priceless
02:26 BingoBoingo Yeah
02:26 Apocalyptic it actually happened
02:26 tg2 x might be down
02:26 tg2 careful with that fuck
02:26 BingoBoingo It happesn all the time here
02:26 tg2 yeah this is /b/ and we're summerfags
02:26 tg2 lemme just go grab my sharpie
02:26 tg2 and get right back
02:26 benkay springfags, but right idea.
02:26 BingoBoingo tg2: he grabs his as well
02:26 BingoBoingo ;;google really buttcoins nao
02:26 gribble They really are Buttcoins nao pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/they-really-are-buttcoins-nao>; Perfect money corrupts absolutely pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2013/perfect-money-corrupts-absolutely/>; Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/category/bitcoin/>
02:27 xdotcomm_ do i just need past my linked in page?
02:27 xdotcomm_ fuck
02:27 benkay ;;ident bitcoinpete
02:27 gribble Nick 'bitcoinpete', with hostmask 'bitcoinpete!~bitcoinpe@S01060016cbc6cced.ed.shawcable.net', is not identified.
02:27 tg2 anyway, I guess the end result is that I'm fine if you think I'm someobdy I'm not, that is really up to you and no amount of unaged, unverified pgp can change that
02:27 Mats_cd03 have you considered that these two are minors and we're all about to be complicit in child pornography?
02:27 xdotcomm_ had to much vodka today
02:27 tg2 so I guess I'll just reenforce it alternatively
02:27 xdotcomm_ We are not miners
02:27 bitcoinpete ;;everify bitcoinpete
02:27 gribble Error: Could not find a pending authentication request from your hostmask. Either it expired, or you changed hostmask, or you haven't made one.
02:27 xdotcomm_ oh wait we do mine
02:27 xdotcomm_ u still mine tg?
02:27 tg2 400mh says I do
02:28 xdotcomm_ damn
02:28 tg2 my hydro bill says I do
02:28 tg2 my darkcion wallet says I do
02:28 tg2 so yeah
02:28 tg2 guilty
02:28 bitcoinpete ;;gpg eauth bitcoinpete
02:28 gribble Request successful for user bitcoinpete, hostmask bitcoinpete!~bitcoinpe@S01060016cbc6cced.ed.shawcable.net. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/165749929F9A6BDD
02:28 benkay see tg2 xdotcomm_? it's not hard.
02:28 xdotcomm_ do they just want my linkedin or what the fuck is this dox?
02:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.10144642 BTC [-]
02:28 tg2 lol
02:28 tg2 I donno, honestly the level of tinfoil hattery in here is beyond comprehension
02:28 benkay it's called an immune system.
02:28 bitcoinpete ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:9654ce03645baa8e57db4260daa60d895ce8ac0a08f399eece104276
02:28 gribble You are now authenticated for user bitcoinpete with key 165749929F9A6BDD
02:29 benkay it's not a hard bar to cross
02:29 tg2 isn't this why we have nickserv ;\
02:29 benkay your reluctance is highly suspicious
02:29 xdotcomm_ are we applying for bitcoin credit cards?
02:29 xdotcomm_ benkay: dude like can u go step by step?
02:29 benkay bitcoinpete got loans with a simple ;;ident
02:29 tg2 I just don't see the point, but i guess if you want to see a pgp key that I just gneerated
02:29 tg2 and if that will somehow make you at ease
02:29 tg2 lol
02:29 benkay still, sadly missing the point.
02:29 bitcoinpete ;;ident bitcoinpete
02:29 gribble Nick 'bitcoinpete', with hostmask 'bitcoinpete!~bitcoinpe@S01060016cbc6cced.ed.shawcable.net', is identified as user 'bitcoinpete', with GPG key id 165749929F9A6BDD, key fingerprint E6625CC14638C4CA404694E9165749929F9A6BDD, and bitcoin address None
02:30 benkay identity being f(raters, ratings, duration)
02:30 tg2 yes
02:30 xdotcomm_ I kind of get it but i am to drunk to figure ouot this shit now
02:30 benkay y'all ain't getting anywhere on your first noisy night here.
02:30 xdotcomm_ true
02:30 benkay xdotcomm_: you sound just like ughlol!
02:30 BingoBoingo xdotcomm_: You aren't applying for credit even, you are applying for citizenry
02:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 548 @ 0.00094464 = 0.5177 BTC [+]
02:30 benkay such conciliatory.
02:30 benkay wow
02:30 tg2 hahaha, man i'm gonna pgp up just to shut you guys up
02:30 xdotcomm_ can i come back tommorow
02:31 tg2 this is fucking hillariosu
02:31 bitcoinpete xdotcomm_ linkedin? srly? http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-03-2014#581562
02:31 benkay no permaban
02:31 BingoBoingo Seriously though, compliance isn't that hard for others i.imgur.com/yQ52mP7.jpg and i.imgur.com/o08heoV.jpg
02:31 tg2 lemme koolaid this php up
02:32 benkay don't forget the === i'm serious bro operator
02:32 bitcoinpete benkey: ughlol^2
02:32 BingoBoingo benkay: ====
02:32 BingoBoingo !=====
02:32 benkay =======
02:33 tg2 binary safe
02:33 benkay ;;google bitcoin electoral
02:33 gribble Betting with bitcoin: Site lets Americans gamble on elections, sports ...: <http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2014/02/18/bitcoin-only-site-lets-americans-bet-on-elections-sports/>; Could Bitcoin affect the 2014 midterm elections? | The Daily Dot: <http://www.dailydot.com/politics/bitcoin-political-donations-2014-midterm-elections/>; Bitcoin Betting for Elections and More - Coinreport: (1 more message)
02:33 benkay ;;google bitcoin election trilema
02:33 gribble Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/category/bitcoin/>; Wikileaks - CCXXXII pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/wikileaks-ccxxxii>; Bitcoins, Dollars and Renminbi | Zero Hedge: <http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-11-21/bitcoin-dollars-and-renminb>
02:34 xdotcomm_ benkay: not acting like a bro
02:34 benkay xdotcomm_: http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-as-replacement-for-the-electoral-system/
02:34 benkay there you go
02:34 benkay you want to bitch about 'freedom' and 'not being a bitch'?
02:34 Mats_cd03 fucking BingoBoingo
02:34 benkay do like 6 months of reading.
02:35 Mats_cd03 first photo was meh, didnt anticipate hairy butthole with the second
02:35 bitcoinpete BingoBoingo: damn, those are some fucking buttcoins
02:35 BingoBoingo Mats_cd03: Maybe I overpaid, but I resolved a sockpuppet situation in the past
02:36 BingoBoingo This is really the only non-GPG to almost establish separate identities
02:36 benkay either gpg, or sharpie in the pooper.
02:36 bitcoinpete yeshiva, sabbatical, whateverthefuck: 6 months minimum https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ekqsHP9Sck
02:36 Mats_cd03 was there some sort of condition involving an i dotted with a heart, and a sharpie?
02:37 BingoBoingo Mats_cd03: Prolly
02:37 BingoBoingo I was spreading the wealth from this win http://bitbet.us/bet/113/bitbet-will-we-worth-more-than-satoshi-dice/
02:37 MisterE how to randomize MAC addy of a Mac at reboot?
02:38 tg2 fk sakes, tg2 is too short for pgp name
02:38 benkay some deep crypto asspert.
02:38 bitcoinpete BingoBoingo: nice takedown
02:39 Mats_cd03 with a script maybe MisterE
02:39 MisterE yea found it
02:39 BingoBoingo bitcoinpete: Putting a bet on that was one of my earliest in chan actions here
02:39 MisterE http://osxdaily.com/2008/01/17/how-to-spoof-your-mac-address-in-mac-os-x/
02:39 ozbot How to Spoof your MAC address in Mac OS X
02:40 bitcoinpete tg2: don't shorten it, use the full TiredGoat2
02:40 BingoBoingo bitcoinpete: I liked bitbet and found dice boring so when dared by kakobrekla I put 1 BTC on yes
02:40 Apocalyptic haha
02:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16252 @ 0.00094915 = 15.4256 BTC [+]
02:41 BingoBoingo I dun really understand what is so hard about using the Buttcoin protocol to establish unique warm bodies behind nicks
02:42 bitcoinpete BingoBoingo: solid. i bet on both sides of a couple recently. first go
02:42 BingoBoingo Prolly could defeat it by outsourcing to fiver even
02:42 bitcoinpete it's all about the protocol
02:42 bitcoinpete we can have smart contracts that self-insert sharpies
02:43 BingoBoingo bitcoinpete: Sounds like ethereum bullshit
02:43 benkay BingoBoingo gets it
02:43 bitcoinpete and decentralized exchanges that sell buttcoin options
02:43 benkay i'd like to buy a put buttcoin option please
02:44 Mats_cd03 is ethereum the new ripple hotness?
02:44 benkay ethereum: the open buttcorn exchange
02:44 bitcoinpete benkay: we have a 2 for 1 deal on at the moment, how many can i put you down for?
02:44 Apocalyptic kinda Mats_cd03
02:45 tg2 > Ticker queries bitcoin pricing based on mtgox.com's history.
02:45 tg2 ahan
02:45 bitcoinpete which is the new OT afaik
02:45 benkay i'll buy an option to put one sharpie in the poopers of tg2 and xdotcomm_ each or 1 option to put 2 sharpies in either of their poopers
02:45 bitcoinpete haha
02:46 benkay you are free of course to sell them the call options balancing
02:46 bitcoinpete that's basically just the ink in their buttpens
02:46 BingoBoingo To make this market more interesting and establish some serious I will take 1 Sharpie in my pooper for 2.5 BTC
02:47 MisterE BingoBoingo: tg2: You can each write a unique message with a sharpie on your cheeks stick in in your pooper and post pics // Finally a succinct explanation of 2-factor auth!
02:47 bitcoinpete reloadable cartridges.
02:47 benkay we have a taker!
02:47 MisterE no giving feels better
02:47 benkay BingoBoingo is selling puts at 2.5 for 1 sharpie in 1 pooper
02:47 bitcoinpete MisterE: let's see nic cary give that one away!
02:48 benkay given put call parity we should expect to see 5 B for 2 sharpies in 1 pooper
02:48 benkay or rather we'd want to see someone willing to put down 5B for 2 sharpies in 1 pooper
02:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 13 @ 0.04856922 = 0.6314 BTC [+] {5}
02:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.05440012 = 0.1088 BTC [+]
02:49 bitcoinpete c'mon, loosen up those pursestrings people!
02:49 benkay poopstrings
02:49 bitcoinpete heh
02:49 MisterE the relationship of BTC to Sharpies is logarithmic
02:50 benkay ;;ident tg2
02:50 gribble Nick 'tg2', with hostmask 'tg2!~tg2@205.204.66.35', is not identified.
02:50 BingoBoingo ;;ident
02:50 gribble Nick 'BingoBoingo', with hostmask 'BingoBoingo!~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo', is identified as user 'BingoBoingo', with GPG key id 309BB8D7F3251143, key fingerprint ADD7A9A28F85E5EF1F51904F309BB8D7F3251143, and bitcoin address None
02:51 MisterE no -otc for you eh?
02:51 benkay ;;ident MisterE
02:51 gribble Nick 'MisterE', with hostmask 'MisterE!~MisterE@unaffiliated/mistere', is not identified.
02:51 benkay oooooooooooh
02:52 MisterE :p
02:52 MisterE ;;auth
02:52 gribble (auth <nick>) -- Initiate authentication for user <nick>. You must have registered a GPG key with the bot for this to work. You will be given a random passphrase to clearsign with your key, and submit to the bot with the 'verify' command. Your passphrase will expire within 10 minutes.
02:52 MisterE been a while :p
02:52 MisterE ;;eauth mistere
02:52 gribble Request successful for user mistere, hostmask MisterE!~MisterE@unaffiliated/mistere. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/C97817F2EE7504A3
02:53 benkay tg2: you see this?
02:53 benkay this is what we call a shibboleth.
02:53 benkay that with which you are unable to penetrate the sanctum.
02:53 benkay without* which
02:55 BingoBoingo To keep things interesting I would take one sharpie and my favorite cross pen in my worst parts for 2.75 BTC
02:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 27 @ 0.00452997 = 0.1223 BTC [+]
02:55 bitcoinpete i wonder how much assbot would do it for
02:55 BingoBoingo ;;assbot insert sharpie
02:55 gribble Error: "assbot" is not a valid command.
02:55 BingoBoingo ;;insert
02:55 gribble Error: I can't change the topic, I'm not opped and #bitcoin-assets is +t.
02:55 bitcoinpete lol
02:56 bitcoinpete we need to change that
02:56 BingoBoingo tg2: The moral of the story is that with WoT you can make and accept offers
02:57 BingoBoingo Your authenticated word being as good as a contract.
02:57 MisterE ^
02:57 BingoBoingo With out it, you just are only as much better than noise as you can create arguments, but you still lack the ability to affirm any comittments
02:58 bitcoinpete smart contract require smart people not smart machines
02:58 bitcoinpete contracts*
02:58 xdotcomm_ I run alot of porn sites
02:58 tg2 I get the concept
02:58 bitcoinpete this isn't ethereum
02:59 tg2 I just didn't see how this would immediately satisfy benkay's accusation
02:59 tg2 which it still doesn't :0
02:59 benkay only time will do that.
02:59 tg2 anyway
02:59 tg2 I'm submitting it now to the registry
02:59 benkay and not acting like ninjashogun.
02:59 tg2 my old pgp was expired
02:59 BingoBoingo tg2: Well for you it doesn't quite, not in the way Buttcoins do
02:59 benkay much crypto.
02:59 xdotcomm_ i catch tg on my gay sites all the time
03:00 tg2 I only watch them cause I like to see porn with you in it
03:00 xdotcomm_ tg2: i actually revealed my info
03:00 tg2 where
03:00 xdotcomm_ in private message
03:00 xdotcomm_ i dont care
03:00 tg2 what info
03:00 xdotcomm_ not hard to find me
03:00 tg2 you are me
03:00 tg2 member
03:00 xdotcomm_ lol just myself
03:00 tg2 :D
03:00 tg2 ok so if we're both socks, then that should identify both of us, right?
03:00 tg2 ;)
03:01 benkay gents the accusation was "two warm bodies"
03:01 xdotcomm_ ur info is not mine to reveal
03:01 bitcoinpete oh my sides
03:01 tg2 you still have to post sharpie in wife's ass
03:01 tg2 I'll do the same
03:01 xdotcomm_ keeping family out of this
03:01 tg2 come on
03:01 tg2 we'll swap
03:01 xdotcomm_ seriously
03:01 bitcoinpete tg2 you have a wife?
03:01 tg2 almost 30
03:01 tg2 time to get into wife swapping
03:01 tg2 bitcoinpete - only one, yes
03:01 tg2 this nigga over here tkaing notes
03:02 tg2 lol
03:02 MisterE ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:64cc01d806a3a90a79e37d07c938af251d0e6c9bd6c0f087a087a67d
03:02 bitcoinpete tg2: that's kinda below average here
03:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.05589706 = 0.2795 BTC [+] {3}
03:02 gribble You are now authenticated for user MisterE with key C97817F2EE7504A3
03:02 tg2 is having a wife a luxury not afforded to the bitcoin elite?
03:02 tg2 chicks dig crypto
03:02 tg2 bitches can't get enough of my doge coins
03:02 MisterE I've done the time but not the crime
03:03 BingoBoingo Well, generally the singular is undershooting things by MP standards
03:03 benkay some of us have wives
03:03 benkay some of us have more than one partner
03:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.05588793 = 0.1118 BTC [-] {2}
03:03 tg2 >partner
03:03 benkay some of us are foreveralone
03:03 xdotcomm_ some of us are gay
03:03 tg2 amgibuity
03:03 tg2 detected
03:03 xdotcomm_ or trans
03:03 tg2 some of us have a realdoll
03:03 MisterE some have a wife and also a "small wife"
03:03 xdotcomm_ transcending into the blockchain
03:03 bitcoinpete tg2: i'm sure your bitches love taking cruises in your doge-nascar-impala
03:03 tg2 I have kids
03:03 tg2 and a wife
03:03 MisterE no kids here
03:03 tg2 its terrible
03:04 tg2 this chat is publicly logged
03:04 MisterE I can only imagine
03:04 tg2 and I say that openly
03:04 MisterE yes
03:04 MisterE forever attributable to you
03:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.05589986 = 0.1118 BTC [+]
03:04 tg2 and nobody can reproach me for it
03:04 MisterE heh
03:04 bitcoinpete MisterE: not until tg2 is in the wot lol
03:04 tg2 its ok nobody can prove its me... *submits pgp key*
03:04 tg2 lol
03:04 MisterE hehe
03:05 tg2 shit the only sharpie I have is one of those big commercial ones
03:05 tg2 wat do
03:05 tg2 gribble pls
03:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.05589963 = 0.1118 BTC [-]
03:05 bitcoinpete tg2 work your way up
03:05 tg2 your nick is really familliar bitcoinpete
03:05 MisterE ;;later tell tg2 to start with the small end...
03:05 gribble The operation succeeded.
03:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.05589495 = 0.1677 BTC [-] {2}
03:06 xdotcomm_ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dedovshchina
03:06 ozbot Dedovshchina - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
03:06 benkay take it slow, tg2
03:06 tg2 do I take the cap off
03:06 bitcoinpete tg2: yup
03:06 benkay kids don't do anal 'cause they don't got the patience.
03:07 xdotcomm_ Dedovshchina involves a spectrum of subordinating or humiliating activities performed by the junior ranks: from carrying out chores of the senior ranks to violent and sometimes lethal physical and psychological abuse, being not unlike an extremely vicious form of bullying or even torture. It is often cited as a major source of poor morale in the ranks.
03:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.0009445 = 20.3068 BTC [-]
03:07 tg2 its called hazing
03:08 xdotcomm_ The term is derived from "ded" (Russian: дед, meaning grandfather), which is the Russian Army army slang equivalent of gramps, meaning soldiers at their third (or fourth, which is also known as "dembel" (Russian: дембель), stemming from a vulgarization of the word "demobilization" (Russian: демобилизация) - this word is erroneously used by soldiers to name the event of resigning from
03:08 xdotcomm_ the army; this event is also called by soldiers "dembel" or "DMB" (Russian: ДМБ)) half-year of conscription, with the suffix -shchina which designates a type of order, rule, or regime (compare Yezhovshchina, Zhdanovshchina). Thus it can literally be translated as "rule of the grandfathers." This is essentially a folk system of seniority based on stage of service, mostly not backed by code or law, which
03:08 xdotcomm_ only grants seniority to conscripts promoted to various Sergeant and Efreitor ranks.
03:08 bitcoinpete oof survey sez: "we not happy"
03:08 tg2 its called being a wrothless summerfag
03:08 xdotcomm_ just how it feels
03:08 xdotcomm_ not a fan of that
03:08 tg2 oh come on, submit to it
03:08 tg2 submit to others will
03:08 tg2 its in your defiant russian blood to do so
03:08 tg2 ;D
03:08 benkay tg2 how long does it take to whip up a gpg key?
03:08 tg2 so fast
03:08 bitcoinpete it's like watching me, myself, and irene
03:09 tg2 finding the proper directory to submit it to
03:09 xdotcomm_ yea i can do it but then where do i put it?
03:09 benkay ;;ident tg2
03:09 gribble Nick 'tg2', with hostmask 'tg2!~tg2@205.204.66.35', is not identified.
03:09 tg2 on my android phone
03:09 tg2 its going well
03:09 benkay hahahahahahahahahahahahahah
03:09 tg2 lol
03:09 benkay what the first one expired
03:09 benkay now you're typing at lightning speed on your android phone
03:09 tg2 last time I used a pgp key
03:09 bitcoinpete ;;google bitcoin pgp otc
03:09 gribble GPG authentication - bitcoin-otc wiki: <http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/GPG_authentication>; #bitcoin-otc web of trust data: <http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratings.php>; #bitcoin-otc web of trust: <http://bitcoin-otc.com/trust.php>
03:09 tg2 well its that or use windows
03:10 tg2 or ssh
03:10 tg2 its... so late... benkay-san
03:10 benkay try again tomorrow.
03:10 tg2 please take pity on me... i cannot submit so fast..
03:10 xdotcomm_ -bash: gpg: command not found
03:11 tg2 lol
03:11 benkay no pity.
03:11 tg2 r u srs
03:11 benkay only gpg.
03:11 tg2 dorian incident
03:11 benkay no feels.
03:11 benkay only crypt.
03:11 benkay crypto.
03:11 bitcoinpete and 6 months of hard logs
03:11 tg2 -> EVERYBODY MUST USE PGP AT LAL TIMes NO EXCEPTIONS
03:11 tg2 >implying that the internet forgets about it after 6 months
03:11 benkay actually most of us run naked until interlopers appear derping around.
03:11 xdotcomm_ the link to OSx guide has expire domain
03:11 bitcoinpete not everybody, just people
03:12 tg2 osx
03:12 tg2 lol
03:12 xdotcomm_ http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/GPG_authentication
03:12 ozbot GPG authentication - bitcoin-otc wiki
03:12 tg2 there's your problem
03:12 xdotcomm_ Mac OS X guide with pictures by Drcross.
03:12 tg2 that wiki is straight shit btw
03:12 xdotcomm_ fucking domain expired
03:12 tg2 lol
03:12 xdotcomm_ amateur hour shit
03:12 tg2 > osx
03:12 tg2 > O S X
03:12 xdotcomm_ i need to find a linux box
03:12 tg2 i think i spotted your problem
03:12 tg2 i'm going to do it befor eyou do
03:12 tg2 on my phone
03:12 tg2 maybe you can use your smartphone...
03:12 tg2 or
03:13 tg2 mmmmmmmmm yeah.
03:13 xdotcomm_ u mean do it on phone and computer since we are the same person
03:13 tg2 yeah realtalk
03:13 xdotcomm_ octoniggaz
03:13 tg2 use your (my) android phone
03:13 tg2 instead of your (my) iphone
03:13 bitcoinpete we need a parimutuel bet on who gets it done first
03:13 tg2 bitbet
03:13 tg2 xdotcomm_ has a sick betting site in teh works
03:13 tg2 yall gonna love it
03:13 xdotcomm_ http://ww2.dylblog.com/2011/06/05/how-to-join-in-with-bitcoin-otc-the-easy-way-osx/
03:13 xdotcomm_ tg2: thanks for outing bro
03:13 benkay bitcoinpete: it's a badbet, they're in cahoots.
03:14 xdotcomm_ we are same person
03:14 tg2 you bet on whether or not you're going to get your money back
03:14 benkay lzolzozlzolzol betting site in bitcoin
03:14 tg2 you send
03:14 benkay lzolzozlzo no gpg
03:14 tg2 if you win, you get it back
03:14 tg2 if not, no
03:14 Mats_cd03 id put a sharpie in my butt for you
03:14 benkay get the fuck out of my face
03:14 Apocalyptic sounds like bitbet
03:14 Mats_cd03 for free
03:14 MisterE solid analysis tg2 thanks
03:14 MisterE it's a rapidly moving target
03:14 tg2 its never wrong
03:14 tg2 fudnamentally it can never be wrong
03:15 tg2 unlike benkay
03:15 MisterE heh
03:15 xdotcomm_ seiosly
03:15 tg2 and xdotcomm_'s typing
03:15 xdotcomm_ who does the guide http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/GPG_authentication
03:15 tg2 it is shit
03:15 tg2 that guide
03:15 xdotcomm_ MAC osx link is broken
03:15 tg2 it is there to prevent others
03:15 tg2 from using pgp
03:15 benkay too complicated for you two?
03:15 MisterE yea was thinking this too
03:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6678 @ 0.0009445 = 6.3074 BTC [-]
03:15 MisterE minutes ago
03:15 tg2 its some kind of sick twisted game
03:15 tg2 where they tell everybody to use PGP
03:15 bitcoinpete ;;google gpg tools tutorial
03:15 gribble First steps - where do I start, where do I begin? - GPGTools Support: <http://support.gpgtools.org/kb/how-to/first-steps-where-do-i-start-where-do-i-begin>; Tutorials / FAQs - GPGTools Support: <http://support.gpgtools.org/kb/how-to>; GPGTools Screencast - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt4MFkbr6co>
03:15 tg2 then the guide purposly oomits the parts you need to know
03:15 benkay pgp, gpg
03:15 benkay what's the difference anyways
03:15 MisterE cli is easiest no fucking around
03:16 bitcoinpete there's your osx. fuck
03:16 benkay man pages
03:16 benkay what are even that?
03:16 tg2 WHY DONT THEY HAVE A WINDOWS XP GUI
03:16 tg2 IM GONNA WRITE AN ANGRY EMAIL (unsigned of course) ABOUTT HIS MATTER
03:16 benkay ^^ widows crypto asspert
03:16 benkay assperters
03:16 Mats_cd03 ya really
03:16 MisterE MSCE too
03:16 tg2 benkay - I hope we meet IRL some time
03:16 benkay certified microsoft scrum officer
03:16 MisterE MCSE*
03:16 xdotcomm_ i am downloading a suite
03:16 benkay threats of violence
03:16 benkay novel
03:16 tg2 >implying I didn't mean for beers
03:17 tg2 I have more resepect for people I dislike than those I get along with
03:17 tg2 ask xdotcomm_
03:17 xdotcomm_ hahah
03:17 tg2 lol
03:17 benkay come down to portland
03:17 benkay it's just a train ride away
03:17 bitcoinpete is spring in portland yet?
03:17 benkay hack in the living room with the fellas
03:17 tg2 i herd blowjobs are cheap there
03:17 MisterE heh I have family there
03:17 tg2 supply and demand thing
03:17 xdotcomm_ he will come and like buy u beers for pissing him off in the chat
03:17 MisterE hey!
03:17 benkay yeah men are in short supply
03:17 tg2 beers?!
03:18 tg2 actually
03:18 xdotcomm_ maybe just 1
03:18 tg2 there is a good brewpub there
03:18 xdotcomm_ i dunno depends on exchange rate
03:18 MisterE several
03:18 tg2 that I wanted to visit
03:18 MisterE whole craft scene
03:18 tg2 one in particular on the drive down from here
03:18 tg2 has like 400 bottles on tap
03:18 tg2 or 400 bottles *
03:18 tg2 and 80 taps
03:18 MisterE McMennimens?
03:18 MisterE sp?
03:19 tg2 hold on lemme find it
03:19 tg2 you do a x month thing
03:19 tg2 where you drink all sorts of varieties
03:19 tg2 then you get your cert
03:19 moiety ;; wtf sauce please gribble
03:19 gribble (wtf [is] <something>) -- Returns wtf <something> is. 'wtf' is a *nix command that first appeared in NetBSD 1.5. In most *nices, it's available in some sort of 'bsdgames' package.
03:19 tg2 (only after providing gpg obviously)
03:19 MisterE http://www.mcmenamins.com/
03:19 ozbot McMenamins - Pubs, Breweries and Historic Hotels in Oregon and Washington
03:19 MisterE lol
03:19 xdotcomm_ “GPG Keychain Access” would like to access your contacts.
03:19 benkay mcmen's a shit
03:19 xdotcomm_ wtf
03:19 tg2 lol
03:20 xdotcomm_ y
03:20 tg2 please
03:20 benkay what you want is bailey's taproom
03:20 tg2 tell me
03:20 tg2 you are not being serious
03:20 benkay the app for which my shop made
03:20 MisterE yea mams is like a chain
03:20 tg2 if not, props cause my jimmies are on the moon
03:20 BingoBoingo ;;fsck
03:20 gribble Error: "fsck" is not a valid command.
03:20 tg2 if so, holy fuck your jimmies are on the moon
03:20 MisterE so wondering what else you mean that big?
03:20 moiety benkay, MisterE: ever tried BrewDog?
03:20 MisterE no I haven't been back to the US for a few years now
03:20 benkay moiety: nope. too much good local stuff for imports
03:21 MisterE and even then just a few weeks
03:21 Mats_cd03 po-po got you on the run?
03:21 moiety benkay, fair point, its local to me lol. if you ever do come across it, it's really good
03:21 MisterE naaw dawg nobody gonna find me here
03:22 benkay tg2: i'm nowhere near so abrasive in person
03:22 BingoBoingo Oh, scammer pumping http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/03/meet-the-manic-miner-who-wants-to-mint-10-of-all-new-bitcoins/
03:22 tg2 it would be difficult for that to be a false statement without breaking some field of physics
03:22 bitcoinpete it's been a laugh, goodnight all
03:23 xdotcomm_ ok i read this http://support.gpgtools.org/kb/how-to/first-steps-where-do-i-start-where-do-i-begin
03:23 benkay night bitcoinpete
03:23 xdotcomm_ now how i plug it in to irc?
03:23 tg2 lolllll ok stop
03:23 benkay thing is, there are cultural mores over which you're trampling tonight tg2
03:23 tg2 putty into a linux server
03:23 benkay consider it an immune response. nothing personal.
03:23 tg2 http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/GPG_authentication
03:23 tg2 follow that
03:23 ozbot GPG authentication - bitcoin-otc wiki
03:24 moiety BingoBoingo: jesus, 1.4million? o.o article does make me love rpi a wee bit more
03:24 BingoBoingo moiety: That Dave is a known scammer
03:24 xdotcomm_ Please select what kind of key you want:
03:24 xdotcomm_ (1) RSA and RSA (default)
03:24 xdotcomm_ (2) DSA and Elgamal
03:24 MisterE surely leased hashing is a scam in an d of itself?
03:24 xdotcomm_ (3) DSA (sign only)
03:24 tg2 I'm not oblivious to that
03:24 xdotcomm_ (4) RSA (sign only)
03:24 tg2 shtap
03:24 tg2 learn2pastebin
03:25 tg2 I'll gen one for you k
03:25 tg2 i'll keep the private key REALLLLL SAFE
03:25 benkay oh man
03:25 tg2 lolll
03:25 benkay troll so hard motherfuckers wan' byte me
03:25 tg2 <signed> guys i'm so gay
03:25 moiety BingoBoingo: he does look like a total gimp
03:26 moiety xdotcomm_: and now you see the benefit of not reading a quick guide. all questions answered.
03:27 benkay funny
03:27 benkay i was just talking to some friends earlier today about how the right way to learn how to gpg correctly was to take a week and read the manual.
03:28 benkay seems like nobody has a week to learn a tool anymore.
03:28 benkay anyone in this channel ever use a mill?
03:28 moiety nah one evening with BingoBoingo does it perfectly
03:28 tg2 week? people dont read an article past the 2nd sentence
03:28 benkay lathe, maybe?
03:28 tg2 why do you think upworthy.com is so popular
03:28 tg2 its a youtube video and 2 sentences
03:28 benkay moiety: you're a little smarter than the average babe.
03:28 tg2 1.5M fb likes
03:28 BingoBoingo benkay: Grandpa used a bandsaw...
03:28 tg2 xdotcomm_ can build a 3d printer from scratch
03:28 benkay GP teach you how to use it?
03:29 benkay tg2: doesn't matter if he can't make money with if.
03:29 benkay it*
03:29 BingoBoingo benkay: Nah, he lost too many finger parts
03:29 benkay haw
03:29 benkay finger parts
03:30 xdotcomm_ ;;gpg eauth xdotcommer
03:30 gribble Error: This nick is not registered. Please register.
03:30 xdotcomm_ ;;gpg eauth xdotcomm_
03:30 gribble Error: This nick is not registered. Please register.
03:30 moiety lol
03:30 xdotcomm_ ;;gpg register xdotcommer
03:30 benkay you can play with gribble in private to avoid humiliating yourself, xdotcomm_
03:30 gribble (gpg register <nick> <keyid>) -- Register your GPG identity, associating GPG key <keyid> with <nick>. <keyid> is a 16 digit key id, with or without the '0x' prefix. We look on servers listed in 'plugins.GPG.keyservers' config. You will be given a random passphrase to clearsign with your key, and submit to the bot with the 'verify' command. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes.
03:31 benkay aw shit
03:31 benkay woulda been more fun to watch him flail
03:31 xdotcomm_ i fucking drank man
03:31 benkay dude
03:31 benkay go to sleep
03:31 xdotcomm_ first time dis pgp shit
03:31 benkay don't fuck with keys when you're not sober
03:31 xdotcomm_ i aint got nothing to hide
03:31 benkay keys are serious business.
03:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12375 @ 0.00093959 = 11.6274 BTC [-] {2}
03:31 xdotcomm_ i already uploaded it to rapidshare for tg2
03:31 moiety i learned gpg steaming drunk too.
03:32 benkay daww moiety why don't you play with me wasted?
03:32 benkay i have duct tape...
03:32 moiety lolol ^
03:32 moiety win
03:33 Apocalyptic and we have a winner
03:33 tg2 ;;help
03:33 gribble The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/
03:33 joecool xdotcomm_: you sellin?
03:33 tg2 ;; verify
03:33 gribble (verify <url>) -- Verify the latest authentication request by providing a pastebin <url> which contains the challenge string clearsigned with your GPG key of record. If verified, you'll be authenticated for the duration of the bot's or your IRC session on channel (whichever is shorter).
03:33 benkay moiety's special tho
03:33 tg2 ;; everify
03:33 gribble (everify <otp>) -- Verify the latest encrypt-authentication request by providing your decrypted one-time password. If verified, you'll be authenticated for the duration of the bot's or your IRC session on channel (whichever is shorter).
03:33 moiety i try to behave in here, mostly
03:33 Apocalyptic ;;ident tg2
03:33 gribble Nick 'tg2', with hostmask 'tg2!~tg2@205.204.66.35', is identified as user 'tg2', with GPG key id 4BCCE0D63E7F049F, key fingerprint 54D7E1FD9B9319BE3939878B4BCCE0D63E7F049F, and bitcoin address None
03:33 tg2 anyway i'm verified
03:33 Apocalyptic it's good dude
03:33 tg2 aww yeah
03:34 tg2 AW YEAH
03:34 tg2 get on my fucking ident level scrubs
03:34 tg2 we really shoudln't have drank so much tonight
03:34 benkay ident level zero
03:34 tg2 lol
03:34 xdotcomm_ joecool: selling what?
03:34 tg2 yeah really
03:34 Apocalyptic ;;gettrust tg2
03:34 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask tg2!~tg2@205.204.66.35. Trust relationship from user Apocalyptic to user tg2: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=Apocalyptic&dest=tg2 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=tg2 | Rated since: never
03:34 joecool xdotcomm_: you send the bitcoin
03:34 tg2 SO MUCH TRUST
03:34 Apocalyptic ^
03:34 xdotcomm_ to where?
03:34 joecool ;;ident
03:34 gribble Nick 'joecool', with hostmask 'joecool!~joecool@no-sources/joecool', is identified as user 'joecool', with GPG key id 4A169504F495E1D1, key fingerprint D7570DDF7F8527E085A6CBA44A169504F495E1D1, and bitcoin address 1JoecooLw8qohGrFrmhCcPN6Gw355FjxBc
03:34 xdotcomm_ joecool: u trying to get me to send u bitcoin?
03:34 BingoBoingo ;;rate Apocalyptic 2 x-bt not an idiot
03:34 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user Apocalyptic has changed from 2 to 2.
03:35 tg2 ;;help rate
03:35 gribble (rate <nick> <rating> [<notes>]) -- Enters a rating for <nick> in the amount of <rating>. Use optional <notes> field to enter any notes you have about this user. <nick> must be the user's GPG-registered username, Your previously existing rating, if any, will be overwritten.
03:35 joecool xdotcomm_: sure?
03:35 tg2 lol
03:35 tg2 did you register yet?
03:35 tg2 pm gribble
03:35 joecool !gettrust Apocalyptic
03:35 benkay u guise
03:35 benkay rating each other
03:35 joecool ;;gettrust Apocalyptic
03:35 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user joecool to user Apocalyptic: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 6 via 6 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=joecool&dest=Apocalyptic | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Apocalyptic | Rated since: Mon Jul 15 09:32:50 2013
03:35 benkay this is pretty much as lulzy as it gets
03:36 BingoBoingo Fuck it, Imma pass out.
03:36 joecool solid
03:36 moiety await a bunch of ratings from similarly unknown new names in the coming while
03:36 benkay sleep tight BingoBoingo
03:36 tg2 good riddan... err night
03:36 moiety nanight BingoBoingo
03:36 joecool ;;gettrust moiety
03:36 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user joecool to user moiety: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=joecool&dest=moiety | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=moiety | Rated since: Tue Feb 25 20:04:56 2014
03:36 BingoBoingo tg2 xdotcomm_ Yall dun know what drinking is
03:36 tg2 > implying sobriety
03:36 joecool lol i've never seen that message on wot before
03:37 tg2 lol
03:37 Apocalyptic joecool, it's new
03:37 xdotcomm_ is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.
03:37 tg2 use --longkey
03:37 tg2 you doing it on 'nix cli?
03:37 Apocalyptic night BingoBoingo
03:37 benkay hahaha
03:38 benkay moiety: your ratings are tits
03:38 tg2 is it acceptable that my key password is benkay4gaypresident?
03:38 benkay "attempted the impossible, don't think other people's money was lost"
03:38 benkay i gotta hear the story behind that
03:38 moiety i have ratings?!
03:38 benkay ;;gettrust moiety
03:38 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user moiety: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=moiety | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=moiety | Rated since: Tue Feb 25 20:04:56 2014
03:38 xdotcomm_ ;;gettrust xdotcomm_
03:38 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user xdotcomm_ to user xdotcomm_: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=xdotcomm_&dest=xdotcomm_ | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=xdotcomm_ | Rated since: never
03:38 moiety ;;gpg auth moiety
03:38 gribble Request successful for user moiety, hostmask moiety!~moiety@unaffiliated/moiety. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:2db00ddcee5d2ae977131df20df2c783d9f3fcb201c231adcc7e9b3a
03:38 BingoBoingo http://www.nationstates.net/nation=bingotonia
03:38 ozbot NationStates | The Most Serene Republic of Bingotonia
03:38 joecool moiety: apparently
03:39 xdotcomm_ ;;gpg auth xdotcomm_
03:39 gribble Error: This nick is not registered. Please register.
03:39 xdotcomm_ ;;gpg auth xdotcommer
03:39 gribble Error: This nick is not registered. Please register.
03:39 benkay xdotcomm_: maybe go to sleep
03:39 benkay 1 day does not matter over the course of your life
03:39 tg2 inb4 gpg brute force
03:39 tg2 eventually
03:39 tg2 it will get accepted
03:40 tg2 haha my sides are in orbit
03:40 benkay tg2 where did you get your mixer?
03:40 tg2 if only you guys knew on what level this is
03:41 tg2 x is chortling strong
03:41 tg2 mixer? i don't mix. anybody who says so is a lying sac of shit and I will ;;rate them
03:42 benkay i've never seen anyone do that to metaphors before. i want one like you have.
03:42 Apocalyptic "I will ;;rate them" too bad you can't, for now
03:42 tg2 i'm putting it in notepad
03:42 tg2 for future ;;rating
03:42 benkay i'm still waiting for you both to auth at the same time
03:42 tg2 i'm authed
03:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00093817 = 8.6312 BTC [-]
03:43 tg2 CHECK ME BRO
03:43 tg2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoudYNeVn5E
03:43 ozbot Bro Down Stephen Sondheim vs Randy Marsh - YouTube
03:43 tg2 this perfectly recaps our exchanges tonight
03:43 tg2 ;;ident tg2
03:43 gribble Nick 'tg2', with hostmask 'tg2!~tg2@205.204.66.35', is identified as user 'tg2', with GPG key id 4BCCE0D63E7F049F, key fingerprint 54D7E1FD9B9319BE3939878B4BCCE0D63E7F049F, and bitcoin address None
03:44 benkay ;;ident xdotcommer
03:44 gribble Nick 'xdotcommer', with hostmask 'xdotcommer!~xdotcomme@bas1-montreal51-1167905977.dsl.bell.ca', is not identified.
03:44 benkay "at the same time"
03:44 xdotcommer y
03:44 benkay reading comprehension?
03:44 xdotcommer i cant do this
03:44 tg2 lol
03:44 tg2 this is a clever ruse
03:44 xdotcommer ;;gpg eauth xdotcommer
03:44 gribble Error: This nick is not registered. Please register.
03:44 tg2 best sock ever
03:44 xdotcommer y i just registered
03:44 tg2 good sock bad sock
03:44 Apocalyptic xdotcommer, ;;eregister is the first command
03:44 xdotcommer yea it says success
03:45 tg2 meanwhile x has like 4 gpg keys that I know of
03:45 tg2 in my chain
03:45 Apocalyptic did you decrypt the OTP ?
03:45 xdotcommer Request successful for user xdotcommer, hostmask xdotcomme
03:45 Apocalyptic it should have sent you a link
03:45 tg2 xdotcommer, you have to disable norton antivirus
03:45 Apocalyptic now you open that, decrypt it,and ;;everify it
03:45 tg2 and open internete explorer
03:46 tg2 search in the ask toolbar for "gpg fast direct download"
03:46 tg2 click the first link
03:46 tg2 click all hte donwload buttons you see
03:46 tg2 click yes on all the prompts
03:47 tg2 ;;ident tg2
03:47 gribble Nick 'tg2', with hostmask 'tg2!~tg2@205.204.66.35', is identified as user 'tg2', with GPG key id 4BCCE0D63E7F049F, key fingerprint 54D7E1FD9B9319BE3939878B4BCCE0D63E7F049F, and bitcoin address None
03:47 tg2 wow, such ident, much fingerprint
03:47 xdotcommer ;;gpg eauth xdotcommer
03:47 gribble Error: This nick is not registered. Please register.
03:48 xdotcommer ;;gpg eauth xdotcommer
03:48 gribble Request successful for user xdotcommer, hostmask xdotcommer!~xdotcomme@bas1-montreal51-1167905977.dsl.bell.ca. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/17C50934C1F0ADDD
03:48 xdotcommer sup now mofos
03:48 tg2 holy wow
03:48 xdotcommer so we cant be 2 people?
03:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28600 @ 0.00093586 = 26.7656 BTC [-] {3}
03:49 xdotcommer maybe there is like 5 of us
03:49 xdotcommer benkay: ?
03:49 benkay strawman
03:49 tg2 ;;rate help
03:49 gribble (rate <nick> <rating> [<notes>]) -- Enters a rating for <nick> in the amount of <rating>. Use optional <notes> field to enter any notes you have about this user. <nick> must be the user's GPG-registered username, Your previously existing rating, if any, will be overwritten.
03:49 benkay booooring
03:49 tg2 ok xdotcommer, your shift is up
03:49 tg2 inform the next sock they can take over
03:49 benkay so tg2
03:49 MisterE that dude with the 2.5 ph!!
03:49 benkay where are your ratings going to come from?
03:49 tg2 ;;rate xdotcommer 10 touched my tralala
03:49 gribble Error: You have to have received some ratings in order to rate other users.
03:50 tg2 :'9
03:50 MisterE nice work those rigs look bare bones
03:50 benkay hahahahahahaha
03:50 MisterE and using Pis
03:50 xdotcommer ok so what can we do now that we could not do before?
03:50 tg2 benkay rate me
03:50 benkay why?
03:50 tg2 you denenerate shitposter
03:50 benkay eloquent.
03:50 xdotcommer ;;rate xdotcommer 10 shilling like a villain
03:50 gribble Error: You have to have received some ratings in order to rate other users.
03:50 tg2 lol
03:50 chatquack ;;rate bingoboingo 1 pretty awesome
03:50 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user bingoboingo has been recorded.
03:50 tg2 you rate yourself
03:50 tg2 that is how the trust system works
03:50 xdotcommer ;;rate tg2 10 shilling like a villain
03:51 gribble Error: You have to have received some ratings in order to rate other users.
03:51 tg2 solid comprehension
03:51 xdotcommer haha
03:51 tg2 strong show
03:51 tg2 benkay
03:51 benkay monocle gents
03:51 tg2 pls
03:51 benkay wot wot
03:51 tg2 benkay can has r8 pls
03:51 tg2 I'll send you 100 dogecoins
03:51 tg2 worth imo
03:52 Apocalyptic poor mircea, he will have a hard time reading the log later today
03:52 benkay poor poor mircea
03:52 tg2 so poor
03:52 tg2 doesn't even have darkcoins
03:52 benkay top kek gents
03:52 benkay good job falling in line
03:53 benkay no need to even crack skulls
03:53 tg2 > implying skull cracking abilities
03:53 xdotcommer benkay: what we get for learning pgp?
03:53 xdotcommer like a cookie at lesT?
03:53 benkay hardcore 4channer
03:53 tg2 inb4 250gbps flood
03:53 benkay welcome
03:53 tg2 ok cool
03:53 benkay it's a reference for others, tg2
03:53 tg2 well I feel much less dignified that before
03:53 benkay don't pay it too much bother
03:54 benkay you'd have had to read logs and shit to get the joke
03:54 tg2 but now strangers on the internet know how legitimate I am
03:54 benkay yeah, what's your rating again?
03:54 benkay much legitimate.
03:54 benkay wow
03:54 tg2 look at this guy, doge meme'n it up
03:54 tg2 what a champ
03:54 tg2 you're a half decent guy you know that
03:54 tg2 i applaud your efforts at making us feel at home
03:54 Apocalyptic tg2, xdotcommer I imagine you guys like : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcUWaVbC8wY#t=27
03:54 tg2 good show
03:55 xdotcommer ahahha this guy tells us to register then makes fun of us for not having rating in their system
03:55 tg2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_d5jWvBirU
03:55 ozbot Acquiring Business - YouTube
03:55 tg2 its actually closer tot hat
03:55 tg2 irl
03:55 tg2 but with more drinking
03:55 tg2 and less black people
03:55 benkay you'll get it, i'm sure
03:56 benkay more reads
03:56 benkay less derp
03:56 xdotcommer what about selfpawns?
03:56 tg2 i really think its great that you guys are humoring us
03:56 benkay if not derpers, won't drown
03:56 tg2 meanwhile xdotcommer authored parts of i2p
03:56 benkay oooh, mega creds
03:56 tg2 as previously mentionned, sides are on jupiter ATM
03:56 xdotcommer lolz
03:56 benkay ;;rate NAAAAAH
03:56 gribble (rate <nick> <rating> [<notes>]) -- Enters a rating for <nick> in the amount of <rating>. Use optional <notes> field to enter any notes you have about this user. <nick> must be the user's GPG-registered username, Your previously existing rating, if any, will be overwritten.
03:57 tg2 perhaps tomorrow morning they will have returned
03:57 tg2 along with a hangover
03:57 benkay plan to read logs in the am?
03:57 benkay self flagellate?
03:57 moiety this is still ongoing i see
03:57 moiety ;; ident moiety
03:57 gribble Nick 'moiety', with hostmask 'moiety!~moiety@unaffiliated/moiety', is identified as user 'moiety', with GPG key id 6DF881D6696B6111, key fingerprint E64F1CD74C9F7F955A892A646DF881D6696B6111, and bitcoin address None
03:58 benkay moiety save meeee
03:58 moiety fucking pretty key i made huh :)
03:58 xdotcommer Apocalyptic: thanks for that vid
03:58 xdotcommer its good
03:58 moiety benkay: its called ignore :P
03:58 benkay they're trying
03:58 benkay identing and all
03:59 benkay gotta have *some* modicum of manners
03:59 moiety treat others as they treat you is my motto
03:59 tg2 brb writing a vanity gpg key gen
03:59 benkay after all, BingoBoingo and I settled our differences eventually.
03:59 tg2 opencl? opencl
04:00 xdotcommer y so many pople in this channel
04:00 xdotcommer alsmost as much as in #dogecoin
04:01 xdotcommer wait no they have 900+
04:01 moiety i didnt know you had had differences benkay, im glad they are settled
04:01 moiety oh yeah i wanted to see my ratings
04:01 moiety ;; gettrust moiety
04:01 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask moiety!~moiety@unaffiliated/moiety. Trust relationship from user moiety to user moiety: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=moiety&dest=moiety | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=moiety | Rated since: Tue Feb 25 20:04:56 2014
04:01 tg2 so rated
04:02 benkay well, we trolled each other hard for about a week when BingoBoingo returned from his self-imposed exile lo these many months ago
04:02 joecool moiety: congrats WOT is no longer telling me that you're an impostor and a scammer
04:02 benkay ;;rate moiety 1 not ninjashogun
04:02 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user moiety has been recorded.
04:02 moiety i just needed to gribble joecool!
04:02 moiety lolol benkay XD
04:03 moiety i has two ratings nao :D
04:03 * joecool sleeps
04:03 benkay quantity > quality, eh xdotcommer?
04:04 xdotcommer benkay: regarding?
04:04 benkay <xdotcommer> y so many pople in this channel [01:00]
04:04 benkay <xdotcommer> alsmost as much as in #dogecoin
04:04 benkay <xdotcommer> wait no they have 900+
04:04 xdotcommer are u saying ur better then dogecoin person?
04:04 xdotcommer so presumptuous
04:05 benkay to use a 4chanism
04:05 xdotcommer u know y i like doge
04:05 xdotcommer cause fast
04:05 xdotcommer and cheap to send
04:05 moiety ;; later tell BingoBoingo i didn't realise you had left me a rating, that means a lot what you said
04:05 gribble The operation succeeded.
04:06 benkay > implozlzolzol
04:06 benkay and inflates infinitely!
04:06 benkay what could go wrong.
04:06 benkay was this in reference to the chatthing moiety ?
04:06 moiety fast + cheap to send is all it takes? better make my manuls fast as fuck then
04:07 benkay in and out
04:07 benkay quick as possible
04:07 xdotcommer tg2: u got those bitcoins i sent last year?
04:07 benkay why u no climax?
04:07 moiety yeah benkay i tried to make it work as best i could but i think i was in a losing battle, large mess
04:08 benkay did you get out whole?
04:08 moiety still going amn't i? :)
04:08 benkay oh goodness
04:08 benkay still wrapped up in it then
04:09 moiety well no its shifted, i only retained some users and code really
04:10 moiety just didnt give in when i shouldve
04:10 benkay to what should you have given in?
04:11 moiety like i shouldve just said no, not taken the site and left it at that. avoided all dramatics and the like
04:11 benkay nobody else to push it off on?
04:12 moiety no and i couldnt say no enough times.
04:12 benkay that's a rough finger trap.
04:13 moiety all ages ago, onwards and upwards as they say
04:13 benkay indeedl
04:14 moiety dwll on things too long and you just go backwards right?
04:14 moiety dwell*
04:14 benkay key there is the "too long"
04:14 benkay there's an appropriate amount of dwelling and contrition from which one can learn things
04:14 benkay but generally don't hurt yourself unnecessarily over it
04:15 benkay learn the html, css, js
04:15 moiety ^ thats what i did entirely
04:15 benkay maybe get a sweet job or something
04:16 moiety yeah im now in learn mode. i did have crazy plans but BingoBoingo said, just calm down and learn a while
04:16 moiety shit thing is i lost my job in the process
04:16 benkay rough stuff!
04:16 benkay how'd that come about?
04:16 benkay not to reopen a fresh wound.
04:17 tg2 xdotcommer - ?
04:17 xdotcommer non
04:17 tg2 when did you ever send me bitcions
04:18 moiety a few factors, but being so involved in that didnt help. not for publogs
04:18 tg2 dont try to get ratings out of me you scammy fuck
04:18 xdotcommer tg2: whats bitcoins is that money software
04:18 tg2 i'm on to you
04:18 tg2 ;;rate xdotcommer -10000000 said he had candy in his van
04:18 gribble Error: You have to have received some ratings in order to rate other users.
04:18 xdotcommer we cant even shill each other
04:18 tg2 :'(
04:18 moiety so are you guys on oral medication or injections?
04:18 benkay yeah it's bullshit i tell you
04:18 benkay worthless wot
04:18 xdotcommer who was on top of the rating pyramid
04:19 tg2 I'm going to write an angry letter
04:19 xdotcommer because there had to be the first guy
04:19 tg2 what kind of rating pyramid is this anyway
04:19 xdotcommer the one with power to rate
04:19 tg2 who rates the raters
04:19 xdotcommer he gave a gift or rating to others
04:19 tg2 how many rates can you rate, really
04:19 tg2 and who rates that
04:19 tg2 at what rate can those rates truly be rated
04:19 moiety when can i rate people? how many do i need?
04:20 benkay try it, moiety
04:20 tg2 send me somebitcoins I'll rate you
04:20 xdotcommer moiety: rate me bro
04:20 tg2 ask benkay - he has my address
04:20 tg2 we tight
04:20 moiety ;; rate benkay 1 knows trolling when he sees it
04:20 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user benkay has been recorded.
04:20 moiety \o/
04:20 tg2 ;;rate benkay 10 IRL bro, accdientally crossed streams, never talked about it
04:20 gribble Error: You have to have received some ratings in order to rate other users.
04:21 benkay i'm just waiting to discover that tg2 is pax dickinson or someone cool
04:21 tg2 so................. once i get 1 rating
04:21 xdotcommer moiety: whats the site thats giving u pains?
04:21 xdotcommer is it public info?
04:21 benkay i'll probably be mad disappointed.
04:21 tg2 I can give out infinite ratings
04:21 tg2 benkay, you'll know who I am when the time is right
04:22 tg2 and then you're gonna be like "OH MAN WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT NO WAY"
04:22 moiety xdotcommer: it doesnt exist anymore
04:22 benkay ain't nobody in no hurry, tg2
04:22 xdotcommer moiety: was it something cool?
04:22 xdotcommer like bitbets.com
04:22 tg2 just when you are comfortable in your assertion that I am not ninjashogun, after years of earning your trust, secretly
04:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.10144642 = 0.3043 BTC [-]
04:22 tg2 I wlil reveal myself as ninjashogun
04:22 moiety it was a cool concept, with the wrong users
04:22 tg2 you will be left with a void of trust the likes of which WOT cannot comprehend
04:23 xdotcommer moiety: automated type stuff?
04:23 xdotcommer ponzi.io?
04:23 moiety nah ponzi.me
04:23 benkay ponzi.you
04:24 moiety namecheap will probably be selling .ponzi soon
04:24 benkay .bit is the new .ponzi
04:24 xdotcommer benkay: link?
04:24 moiety true lol
04:25 Apocalyptic <tg2> I can give out infinite ratings // depends
04:25 moiety manls.com and pallascat.com are gone :(
04:25 xdotcommer i like the idea of free dns
04:25 tg2 manuls.io
04:25 moiety no
04:25 tg2 manulmode
04:25 benkay manu.ls?
04:25 tg2 raiseyourmanuls
04:26 xdotcommer benkay: i meant why .bit is new ponzi
04:26 moiety oh i hadnt thought of .ls, i was thinking pallasc.at but im not so keen on domain hacks
04:26 tg2 damn I was hopnig that .ls stood for lichtenstein
04:26 xdotcommer if mozilla + google adopt it... it game time
04:26 xdotcommer tg2: lichtenstein hosting
04:26 tg2 domai.nr
04:26 tg2 http://www.co.ls/
04:27 tg2 such graphics
04:27 moiety except mine, mine is great. palindrome email ftw
04:27 xdotcommer for .bit u need mozilla + chrome to adopt it.
04:27 tg2 ;;ident moiety
04:27 gribble Nick 'moiety', with hostmask 'moiety!~moiety@unaffiliated/moiety', is identified as user 'moiety', with GPG key id 6DF881D6696B6111, key fingerprint E64F1CD74C9F7F955A892A646DF881D6696B6111, and bitcoin address None
04:27 tg2 needs more 6's
04:27 benkay xdotcommer: bitcoin's a ponzi, duh.
04:27 tg2 unsatisfactory amount of 6's in gpg stub
04:27 tg2 bitcoin, the best ponzi
04:27 moiety my key is beautiful. shut up
04:28 tg2 ;;ident tg2
04:28 gribble Nick 'tg2', with hostmask 'tg2!~tg2@205.204.66.35', is identified as user 'tg2', with GPG key id 4BCCE0D63E7F049F, key fingerprint 54D7E1FD9B9319BE3939878B4BCCE0D63E7F049F, and bitcoin address None
04:28 tg2 looks like 4 bitches
04:28 tg2 CEO
04:28 xdotcommer benkay: say it aint so
04:28 tg2 this is modern day palm reading
04:29 xdotcommer benkay: take it back
04:29 benkay hard trufs breh
04:29 tg2 lol
04:29 moiety do you guys ever sleep? js
04:29 xdotcommer sources
04:29 xdotcommer we sleep when dead
04:29 tg2 if only you knew benkay, if only you knew
04:29 moiety sounds like a challenge
04:30 tg2 well, its early enough to go to bed
04:30 xdotcommer moiety: vampirism
04:30 tg2 gnite benkay
04:30 xdotcommer VampCoin
04:30 benkay tg2 if only *you* knew benkay
04:30 tg2 coiners anonymous
04:31 xdotcommer only possible to mine in dark
04:31 xdotcommer must have fresh blood
04:31 xdotcommer once u give somebody vampcoin
04:31 xdotcommer ...
04:32 benkay ;;later tell Jorge_Pasada http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/03/27_why-wot-why-now-its-an-immune-system-sucker.html
04:32 gribble The operation succeeded.
04:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.05489999 = 0.1098 BTC [-] {2}
04:33 benkay night moiety
04:34 benkay now...if only *you* knew benkay...
04:35 moiety lol nanight benkay, nice article :)
04:35 benkay quit flattering me you
04:35 benkay getcha nowhere
04:35 benkay ;)
04:35 moiety :P
04:36 tg2 Wow ok I'll officially tired, I just set a server ip to it's netmask and have no ipmi... lol
04:38 xdotcommer see this is retarded... http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/03/27_why-wot-why-now-its-an-immune-system-sucker.html
04:38 xdotcommer cause in adult what we do is we trust people based on domains they own
04:39 xdotcommer if they can prove ownership of domain
04:39 xdotcommer then we can talk
04:39 xdotcommer this is to niche ... its like reinventing linkedin
04:40 xdotcommer bitcoin is mainstream
04:40 xdotcommer registering with ircbot systems is not a step forward
04:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.05440012 = 0.1088 BTC [-]
04:41 jurov i prefer one can prove ownership of gpg key
04:41 jurov domains can't be truly owned anyway
04:41 xdotcommer granted I am cant think of anything better at the moment but this is not elegant
04:41 xdotcommer i am honored to be one of "knuckleheads"
04:42 xdotcommer yea when I am to wasted to produce code ill hit up irc for inspiration
04:42 jurov elegant things are not good for anything, only to be fucked up
04:43 xdotcommer its going mainstream http://www.coindesk.com/chamath-palihapitiya-bitcion-moving-past-amateur-hour/
04:44 Apocalyptic I like elegant women
04:44 xdotcommer there was some hotties at the bar tonight for sure
04:44 jurov Apocalyptic thx for supporting my point
04:44 Apocalyptic heh
04:45 xdotcommer there is no point... I am here cause wasted ur here cause bored
04:45 xdotcommer no business being done
04:45 xdotcommer no code being produced
04:45 jurov but really.. what is elegeant in replacing wot with domains?
04:46 jurov unless namecoin is used .. but then we're back to private keys anyway
04:46 xdotcommer keys are not necessarily bad
04:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28006 @ 0.00093475 = 26.1786 BTC [-] {2}
04:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00093375 = 8.5905 BTC [-]
05:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 5983 @ 0.0026331 = 15.7538 BTC [-] {12}
05:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.10144642 BTC [-]
05:15 MisterE wtf to do with private key
05:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 110 @ 0.07086819 = 7.7955 BTC [-] {12}
05:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00093413 = 9.1545 BTC [+]
05:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23900 @ 0.00093679 = 22.3893 BTC [+] {2}
05:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07000001 = 0.35 BTC [-]
05:30 bounce back it up. check eg paperkey.
05:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5726 @ 0.00094092 = 5.3877 BTC [+]
~ 19 minutes ~
05:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04889988 = 0.1467 BTC [+] {2}
05:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.05361002 = 0.1072 BTC [-]
~ 33 minutes ~
06:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20635 @ 0.00094067 = 19.4107 BTC [-] {2}
06:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4865 @ 0.00094137 = 4.5798 BTC [+]
06:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44129 @ 0.00094161 = 41.5523 BTC [+] {3}
~ 19 minutes ~
06:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17171 @ 0.00094208 = 16.1765 BTC [+]
07:06 mircea_popescu good moornin
07:07 mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0faKka86xN4
07:07 ozbot Good Morning ~ Singin' in the Rain (1952) Gene Kelly, Debbie Reynolds & Donald O'Connor - YouTube
07:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13047 @ 0.00093704 = 12.2256 BTC [-] {2}
07:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 101 @ 0.00260062 = 0.2627 BTC [-] {2}
07:13 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/interacting-with-fiat-institution-a-guide/#comment-98724
07:13 ozbot Interacting with fiat institution, a guide pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
07:13 mircea_popescu zesepeople.
07:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14359 @ 0.00093537 = 13.431 BTC [-] {2}
07:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35221 @ 0.0009401 = 33.1113 BTC [+] {5}
07:19 ThickAsThieves omg total log pollution
07:19 ThickAsThieves tg2 is what? ChaangNoi?
07:20 ThickAsThieves (i have you on ignore btw)
07:21 mircea_popescu i doubt it.
07:22 mircea_popescu goat can't manage to go through two hours without trying to suck up to someone, he's quite eastern.
07:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.10144642 = 2.0289 BTC [-]
07:24 ThickAsThieves it was all the claims of riches that made me think so
07:25 ThickAsThieves he's the only one i recall repeating how much he recently made of something
07:25 ThickAsThieves off*
07:26 mircea_popescu i believe that's a more common trait than felony.
07:28 cazalla doesn't chaang come around here anymore (reading through logs, he's quite active last year) ??
07:28 mircea_popescu (before being repurposed by english to mean "criminal", felony denoted the behaviour of the overly-socially adaptable, they who go from inflexible grandeur in the presence of inferiors to abject suckupitude should any superiors show up. de funes in the gendarme series is a fine example)
07:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.0058612 = 0.2931 BTC [-] {5}
07:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10246 @ 0.00093324 = 9.562 BTC [-]
07:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 330 @ 0.00577263 = 1.905 BTC [-] {13}
07:39 ThickAsThieves https://internet.org.nz/
07:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18595 @ 0.00094359 = 17.5461 BTC [+] {2}
07:41 ThickAsThieves https://bitcoinfoundation.org/blog/?p=600
07:41 ThickAsThieves "However, tax treatment of Bitcoin as a property, and not a currency, may make compliance with tax laws unnecessarily cumbersome and imposes untenable recording and reporting requirements on its users. This is an unwelcome result for most bitcoin users, but is particularly detrimental to those that Bitcoin can help the most: small business and underbanked individuals. When it is used
07:41 ThickAsThieves as a currency, Bitcoin should be a frictionless means of paying for goods and services. "
07:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6085 = 1.217 BTC [+] {2}
07:49 mircea_popescu derp.
07:49 mircea_popescu that thing should have read "We thought we knew better than MP, but we did not. We will now wear rough burlap on the skin for the next year as penace"
07:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16243 @ 0.00094395 = 15.3326 BTC [+]
07:52 ThickAsThieves this video on the Internet Party site has some laughs
07:53 ThickAsThieves mostly at the NZ pm's expense
07:54 VanCleef kim dot com for teh win
08:00 mircea_popescu the notion that nz has pms in the first place...
08:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 22 @ 0.10144642 = 2.2318 BTC [-]
08:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 107 @ 0.10144642 = 10.8548 BTC [-]
08:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34000 @ 0.00094485 = 32.1249 BTC [+] {2}
08:23 davout https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW-oUXqomT0
08:23 ozbot If bitcoins were around in the '90s... - YouTube
08:25 bounce http://arxiv.org/pdf/1403.6676v1.pdf
08:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 37 @ 0.07 = 2.59 BTC [-] {3}
08:34 dignork
08:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 127 @ 0.00261 = 0.3315 BTC [+]
08:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07288924 = 0.2916 BTC [+]
08:50 chetty http://www.thedailysheeple.com/man-arrested-for-public-consumption-of-iced-tea-urged-to-take-a-deal-from-prosecutors_032014
08:50 ozbot Man Arrested for Public Consumption of Iced Tea Urged to Take a "Deal" from Prosecutors | The Daily
08:55 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/a-mental-problem/
08:55 ozbot A mental problem pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
09:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00094481 = 7.5585 BTC [-] {2}
09:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2130 @ 0.00094425 = 2.0113 BTC [-]
09:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 76 @ 0.00261001 = 0.1984 BTC [+]
09:05 mircea_popescu nanotube http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=mircea_popescu&sign=ANY&type=RECV
09:05 mircea_popescu why does it say "This user has not authenticated for more than 16156 days" ? i've authed like... yesterday
09:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 220 @ 0.00261 = 0.5742 BTC [-]
09:07 mircea_popescu for that matter, otc hasn't existed for 16k days i would hope
09:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3895 @ 0.00094406 = 3.6771 BTC [-]
09:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00094406 = 14.6329 BTC [-]
09:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.07000005 = 0.49 BTC [-] {3}
09:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16611 @ 0.00094502 = 15.6977 BTC [+] {3}
09:31 moiety mew
09:32 moiety ;; later tell asciilifeform MOTD http://imgur.com/1k3rZSf
09:32 gribble The operation succeeded.
09:33 mircea_popescu i heard manuls are now illegal in the united states.
09:36 mircea_popescu http://thefreeonline.wordpress.com/2014/03/24/stop-the-evictions-55-banks-occupied-today-2/
09:36 ozbot STOP the evictions.. 55 Banks Occupied today!!!! | The Free
09:36 mircea_popescu some of the pics quite lulzy.
09:36 chetty http://blog.heritage.org/wp-content/uploads/redtape2014_FINAL.jpg
09:36 mircea_popescu http://thefreeonline.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/antonio-pah-popular-edu-bayer_ediima20130726_0647_16.jpg like that one
09:37 MisterE what is up with this dump?
09:37 moiety that picture of bush is a cracker
09:37 moiety mircea_popescu: i think some of them think its a parade
09:38 mircea_popescu or something.
09:38 moiety im glad manuls are illegal in the us, they dont have to deal with the gvt. also not naturally there so they should be left alone to survive as long as possible.
09:39 VanCleef wow bitcoin prices are dropping alot, awesome
09:41 moiety i think these ones are just protesting for legal weed...in front of a bank http://i.imgur.com/LjIWfvZ.png
09:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 600 @ 0.00261411 = 1.5685 BTC [+] {3}
09:42 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
09:42 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 530.0, Best ask: 531.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 530.01, 24 hour volume: 20457.00800923, 24 hour low: 521.3, 24 hour high: 592.0, 24 hour vwap: 557.384556905
09:42 mircea_popescu it's been dropping ?
09:42 mircea_popescu last i looked i recall it was also 550
09:43 VanCleef yeh dropped to 521 on stamp
09:44 moiety http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-26747649
09:44 ozbot BBC News - North Korea: Students required to get Kim Jong-un haircut
09:44 VanCleef hehe yeh read thtat, tis funny
09:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.00094272 = 1.6498 BTC [-]
09:45 mircea_popescu i wonder what'll happen should kim herp-derp decide to shave his balls.
09:45 mircea_popescu http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/73817000/jpg/_73817643_mm00221184.jpg << this looks like a set from hair.
09:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 115 @ 0.0026006 = 0.2991 BTC [-] {3}
09:46 VanCleef i think he already does
09:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07288944 = 0.2916 BTC [+]
09:48 chetty he has balls?
09:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00574449 = 0.5744 BTC [-] {7}
09:49 VanCleef i hope he goes bald then every male has to have a bald haircut my hair is thinning so if i go bald too i am so moving to north korea because you'll be able to get all teh chicks as baldness becomes cool
09:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07288955 = 0.1458 BTC [+]
09:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.05489775 = 0.3294 BTC [+]
09:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.04791 = 0.2875 BTC [-]
09:50 chetty bald is sexy
09:57 CheckDavid Hey
10:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9262 @ 0.00094272 = 8.7315 BTC [-]
10:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 90 @ 0.00421998 = 0.3798 BTC [-] {7}
10:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 89 @ 0.00410519 = 0.3654 BTC [-] {9}
10:08 mircea_popescu ello
10:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.07801016 = 0.234 BTC [-]
10:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 12 @ 0.07801014 = 0.9361 BTC [-] {2}
10:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [+]
10:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6075 = 1.215 BTC [-] {2}
10:33 assbot [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 432 @ 0.0025 = 1.08 BTC [+]
10:35 TomServo http://bitbet.us/bet/793/bitcoin-to-drop-under-500-before-may/
10:35 ozbot BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under $500 before May
10:35 TomServo pretty quick swing there!
10:39 MykelSIlver What is the Low on Bitstamp?
10:40 MykelSIlver Seems it was breefly on $500
10:40 MykelSIlver under
10:42 MykelSIlver !last
10:42 assbot I don't know those people, and they don't look very friendly.
10:42 MykelSIlver !help
10:42 assbot List of commands:
10:42 assbot !ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}
10:42 assbot !last <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l}
10:42 assbot !mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
10:42 assbot !rules <nick/chan> (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r}
10:42 assbot !exchanges <nick/chan> (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e}
10:42 assbot !jd (desc: returns relevant stats from https://just-dice.com)
10:42 assbot !bash <lines> (desc: bashes last <lines> lines to bash) {short: !b}
10:42 assbot !quote <lines> (desc: quotes last <lines> lines and returns dpaste url) {short: !q}
10:43 MykelSIlver !last bitstamp
10:43 assbot I thought I told you not to touch me.
10:43 lnovy 505 afaik
10:43 TomServo ;;ticker
10:43 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 522.96, Best ask: 524.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.04000, Last trade: 522.96, 24 hour volume: 25859.58689375, 24 hour low: 505.0, 24 hour high: 588.01, 24 hour vwap: 548.210623289
10:43 MykelSIlver thx
10:43 lnovy but not for long :)
10:44 MykelSIlver you wanna bet on that :-) ?
10:44 lnovy i prefer to trade :)
10:44 MykelSIlver cool
10:45 MykelSIlver look like the next leg down
10:46 MykelSIlver s
10:47 MykelSIlver quite a support
10:47 MykelSIlver atm
10:49 MykelSIlver Neo is fighting Morpheus
10:51 tg2 Psa don't drink and post. Benkay is a good sport though for putting up with such trolling last night and still having patience after
10:52 tg2 Enough patience to write an article. :D
10:53 MykelSIlver So http://bitbet.us/bet/793/bitcoin-to-drop-under-500-before-may/ is resolved soon?
10:54 TomServo Resolves May 1st, unless it crosses sooner - the way I read it.
10:55 MykelSIlver It can cross this hour
10:56 MykelSIlver 284 BTC to be sold on bitstamp according to rtbtc
10:56 MykelSIlver oops
10:56 MykelSIlver 1530
10:56 MykelSIlver BTC
10:56 MisterE ltc is a bloodbath
10:57 MykelSIlver great time for bottom pickers
10:57 MisterE https://btc-e.com/exchange/ltc_usd
10:57 ozbot loading
10:57 MisterE I dont think we're there yet
10:58 tg2 Holy $14
10:58 tg2 irs decision needs a supreme court case to reverse
10:58 dexX7 lol wow via pm "Basically, I want to write some VB modules which can send bitcoin transactions. Of course, there aren't many examples out there how to do that. If we could talk on the telephone for 15 minutes, you'll save me about 3 days work." ... suuure
10:58 VanCleef even 100$ is too expensive
10:58 jurov !t m x.eur
10:58 assbot [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.0025 / 0.0025 / 0.0025 (432 shares, 1.08 BTC), 7D: 0.0025 / 0.0025 / 0.0025 (432 shares, 1.08 BTC), 30D: 0.0019005 / 0.00214608 / 0.0025 (3831 shares, 8.22 BTC)
10:58 nubbins` dexX7: so send 'em a quote for 3 days work
10:58 tg2 Can't have different government departments treating it differently to their preference
10:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.60500011 BTC [-]
10:59 dexX7 wait. what was trilema's office number again? :D
10:59 nubbins` HEH
10:59 tg2 Lol
10:59 nubbins` i think you just type out the email address on the keypad
11:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.60500002 = 5.445 BTC [-] {2}
11:00 VanCleef https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSUIQgEVDM4
11:00 ozbot The Doors - The End (original) - YouTube
11:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 43 @ 0.00570004 = 0.2451 BTC [+] {3}
11:01 dexX7 http://www.immersion-cooling.com/publications/Analysis_of_Large-Scale_Bitcoin_Mining_Operations.pdf
11:01 VanCleef goes well while watching bitcoinwisdom
11:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.00570002 = 0.1995 BTC [-] {2}
11:02 bounce not exactly hard to get a sip did, even a free one.
11:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 107 @ 0.00566334 = 0.606 BTC [-] {6}
11:03 nanotube mircea_popescu: fixed thanks. :)
11:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 8 @ 0.10144642 = 0.8116 BTC [-] {2}
11:07 bounce what're we going to see next, bitcoin mining container ships following low electricity prices around the globe?
11:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56950 @ 0.00094339 = 53.7261 BTC [+] {3}
11:07 moiety nubbins`: so, look what i found... http://colnect.com/en/coins/coin/36009-500_Manat_Pallas_Cat-Wildlife_Series-Turkmenistan they're in fiat already!
11:07 nubbins` :o
11:07 punkman1 moiety: https://coinsboutique.com/content/silver-coins-manul-1-oz-silver-coin-antique-finish-mongolia-2014
11:08 moiety oh dear god
11:08 moiety thats... quite something punkman1!
11:08 moiety my collection is growing! ty!
11:09 moiety my site will be useless but fucking informative
11:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24650 @ 0.00094457 = 23.2837 BTC [+] {2}
11:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24900 @ 0.00094553 = 23.5437 BTC [+] {4}
11:10 moiety that one has crystals in it too! :o
11:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 92 @ 0.00269314 = 0.2478 BTC [+] {4}
11:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17830 @ 0.00094228 = 16.8009 BTC [-] {2}
11:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.605 = 1.21 BTC [-]
11:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2022 @ 0.00013797 = 0.279 BTC [+] {2}
11:20 nubbins` the mongolian one is pretty sick
11:20 nubbins` reminds me of the canadian owl coin
11:20 nubbins` http://www.coinnews.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/2014-Canadian-Snowy-Owl-Gold-and-Silver-Coins.jpg
11:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 107 @ 0.04780965 = 5.1156 BTC [-] {6}
11:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.605 BTC [-]
11:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.00013797 = 0.2759 BTC [-]
11:23 dexX7 lol those coins are evil
11:26 nubbins` i'm just looking at the new releases, they've got a coin with a frog made from venetian glass attached to it
11:26 nubbins` http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/Mjg0WDUxMw==/z/oeMAAOxyjxlTM3-u/$_2.JPG
11:27 dexX7 looks like it would break or fall off quickly
11:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 160 @ 0.00271073 = 0.4337 BTC [+] {5}
11:28 nubbins` my guess is there's an anchor protruding from the silver
11:28 punkman1 setting gems is not an unsolved problem
11:29 nubbins` yeah, i'd be shocked to see it on a circulation coin
11:29 nubbins` i guess for a numismatic, it doesn't have to be quite as sturdy
11:30 Namworld I'm pretty sure it's meant to be on a display box
11:31 mircea_popescu soo, the mpoe astrology department informs me that april the 20th, other than being orthodox easter, is also going to be a grand cross and the first of four blood moons.
11:31 mircea_popescu sounds ominouis dunnit ?
11:31 Namworld And not actively handled, so there's that. Should be fine.
11:31 jurov it's catholic eater, too
11:31 jurov *easter lol
11:31 Namworld What the hell is a blood moon?
11:31 mircea_popescu o it is ?
11:31 mircea_popescu ;;google blood moon
11:31 gribble What is a Blood Moon? | Human World | EarthSky: <http://earthsky.org/space/what-is-a-blood-moon-lunar-eclipses-2014-2015>; Divine Sign for Israel? Hagee Explains Blood Moons - Inside Israel ...: <http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/insideisrael/2014/February/Divine-Sign-for-Israel-Hagee-Explains-Blood-Moons/>; Blood-moons fallout: NASA goes hiding - WorldNetDaily: (1 more message)
11:31 mircea_popescu nanotube nono, ty :)
11:31 Mats_cd03 well thats going to look awesome when im baked
11:32 mircea_popescu MykelSIlver did it cross ?
11:32 MykelSIlver nope
11:32 VanCleef baked? isn't that illegal?
11:32 MykelSIlver ;;ticker
11:32 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 528.81, Best ask: 529.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.19000, Last trade: 529.0, 24 hour volume: 29481.45338267, 24 hour low: 505.0, 24 hour high: 587.5, 24 hour vwap: 544.928762099
11:32 VanCleef :P
11:32 Namworld I call that a "Look, the moon is fucking brown-orange."
11:32 MykelSIlver 505.0 still LOD
11:33 mike_c please ask the astrology dept what the lucky lotto numbers are for a cancer under such conditions.
11:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00093723 = 2.0619 BTC [-]
11:33 MykelSIlver must be a miracle if this was the Low till May
11:34 mircea_popescu mike_c aite!
11:34 Mats_cd03 depends what jurisdiction youre in VanCleef
11:35 mircea_popescu mike_c 12 13 22 54 59 63
11:35 mike_c sweet, i'm gunna be rich
11:35 mircea_popescu watch the dood actually win the powerball or some shit.
11:35 jurov you forgot to ask which lotto
11:36 jurov and for one i'm wondering what's the "grand cross"
11:36 dexX7 505 oh noez... i guess no more hookers and blow till the tide shifts again ;)
11:36 mircea_popescu ;;google grand cross
11:36 gribble Grand Cross - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Cross>; Grand cross (astrology) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_cross_(astrology)>; The Cardinal Grand Cross - April 2014 | - Lua Astrology: <http://www.leahwhitehorse.com/2014/01/07/cardinal-grand-cross-april-2014/>
11:36 Mats_cd03 those are weak numbers... go for broke, 4 18 15 16 23 42
11:36 asciilifeform i never learned so much about lottos as when researching trng.
11:36 nubbins` <mircea_popescu> soo, the mpoe astrology department informs me that april the 20th, other than being orthodox easter, is also going to be a grand cross and the first of four blood moons. <<< it's also 420 CARL SAGAN BLAZE IT YO
11:36 Mats_cd03 (Lost reference if i left anybody behind)
11:38 Mats_cd03 http://i.imgur.com/w4CLJ8r.jpg
11:39 dexX7 lol
11:39 nubbins` http://www.reddit.com/r/circlejerk/comments/15kcsd/til_a_dying_carl_sagans_last_words_were_literally/
11:39 ozbot TIL a dying Carl Sagan's last words were literally "420 blaze it, Faggot." He whispered them to his
11:39 asciilifeform http://www.chron.com/jobs/article/Police-Bryan-worker-gets-accidental-huge-4753063.php
11:39 MisterE those are the numbers from lost
11:39 asciilifeform '...officials at Texas Steel Conversion mistakenly issued Cesar Jaime Saldivar a paycheck for $99,275, and now they want it back. Saldivar, 25, who was captured on video making a large cash withdrawal, has been charged with felony theft...'
11:40 dexX7 wow
11:40 mircea_popescu lol
11:40 mircea_popescu nice mug on him
11:40 MisterE stupid people do stupid
11:40 MisterE same happened to GF's sister
11:41 MisterE deposited an extra month's salaruy
11:41 MisterE she went out and spent it all and tried to play it off when they cam calling, silly Asians, she was paying it off for ages
11:41 nubbins` so will the government give back the $38k in taxes?
11:41 mircea_popescu sure, in 2023
11:41 mircea_popescu just as soon as the supreme court rules it must.
11:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07288954 = 0.2187 BTC [-]
11:44 asciilifeform this is a good educational story re: fiat.
11:44 nubbins` even if someone gives it to you, it's not necessarily yours
11:44 nubbins` imagine
11:44 nubbins` also, the price of bitcoin
11:44 nubbins` imagine!
11:45 asciilifeform re: mircea_popescu's thoughts the other day about bank accounts being mandatory in u.s. - typically, when you sign up for direct deposit of salary here, you also sign a pact that allows the employer to withdraw.
11:45 asciilifeform officially limited to cases like this
11:45 nubbins` :o
11:45 mircea_popescu myeah.
11:46 mircea_popescu asciilifeform also allows the BANK to withdraw
11:46 mircea_popescu for any reason whatsoever.
11:46 chetty gubermint in US also push to direct deposit of things like social security
11:46 MisterE There's something even worse than fiat though
11:46 MisterE Paypal
11:46 mircea_popescu such as, to cover its own shortfall, or as directed by a frient of its (such as a regulator, without a court order) or in any other case.
11:47 asciilifeform this, however, is known to everyone
11:48 asciilifeform (it has become almost traditional to confiscate the bank account of the accused, so he cannot pay for lawyers)
11:49 mircea_popescu it's really the fundamental principle that allowed the MF Global debacle.
11:49 asciilifeform in usa, nothing is actually yours unless it is small enough to run away with.
11:50 mircea_popescu that, and bitcoin.
11:50 asciilifeform that'd be 'small enough', sure
11:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18328 @ 0.00093723 = 17.1776 BTC [-]
11:51 asciilifeform carefully specified 'run away' - because, e.g. 'dpr' appears to have been successfully rectothermed.
11:51 mircea_popescu maybe.
11:52 mircea_popescu a more persuasive theory is that the usg used this opportunity to launder its own mining proceeds.
11:52 asciilifeform lol
11:53 MisterE it's probably already CIA's favorite way to fund the covert trouble it starts
11:53 asciilifeform that would line up nicely with 'he had XXX but there's still XXXXX that we haven't rectothermed out'
11:53 mircea_popescu early on, noob of-counsel had realised title'd be iffy but hadn't yet realised title will be challenged.
11:53 mircea_popescu so they tried something along the lines of what seems a meanwhile abandoned project to inject title
11:54 Mats_cd03 the nonzero percentage of intelligence types involved in bitcoin makes my stomach turn
11:54 mircea_popescu Mats_cd03 why ?
11:54 asciilifeform Mats_cd03: if you want to leave meat in the sun and no flies, you will have to go to the arctic.
11:54 joecool ^
11:54 mircea_popescu intelligence types are better company than almost any other class
11:54 mircea_popescu except whores, maybe.
11:55 Mats_cd03 many people in the intel field ive become acquainted with
11:55 mircea_popescu hahahaha
11:55 Mats_cd03 are dumb as shit
11:55 lnovy :D
11:55 mircea_popescu that was pretty good.
11:55 Mats_cd03 aspiring super spy types and idiots that think they know something
11:55 asciilifeform nsa vs. 'meta-nsa'
11:56 Mats_cd03 kind of like bitcoin really
11:56 mircea_popescu what's next, most thieves i've met in jail weren't all that good at it ?
11:56 chetty jajajaja
11:56 joecool mircea_popescu: you were in jail?
11:56 MisterE heh yea, they regularly parade through ##security
11:56 mircea_popescu joecool not yet.
11:56 MisterE get ther hats handed to them and move on
11:56 Mats_cd03 people that have spent time working in military intelligence are the worst
11:57 asciilifeform my secret hope is to meet the interesting ones some day. although it will probably be before my firing squad.
11:57 Mats_cd03 probably something to do with how low the barrier to entry is for military types...
11:57 mircea_popescu asciilifeform intelligence doesn't kill people, bureaucracies kill people.
11:57 asciilifeform ever hear the saying 'see Naples and die' ?
11:58 MisterE military prefers and promotes non-thinkers
11:58 MisterE by nature it's not a meritocracy
11:58 Mats_cd03 in my experience thats only half true
11:58 asciilifeform intelligence doesn't kill people << certainly. this goes back centuries - e.g. inquisitor would hand the heretic over to the 'secular arm' for processing.
11:58 Mats_cd03 the american military is pretty good at straddling the line
11:58 mircea_popescu asciilifeform inasmuch as you know who he was, he wasn't intel.
11:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.42768314 BTC to 4`834 shares, 50221 satoshi per share
11:59 asciilifeform competent burglar can trip over a miraculous surprise and end in jail
11:59 asciilifeform the sapper errs once.
12:00 Mats_cd03 as far as training for platoon leaders go... us .mil excels at meritocracy, at least during a deployment in an area with modest insurgent populations
12:00 MisterE so does the covert op
12:00 asciilifeform you know who he was, he wasn't intel << so not necessarily.
12:00 mircea_popescu ya but ya know what i mean
12:00 Mats_cd03 basically a trial by fire for the tactically inept
12:01 mircea_popescu never saw a spy with a title.
12:01 mircea_popescu which reminds me of a seinfeld bit :
12:01 mircea_popescu JERRY: I got ripped off for about the...18th time? And now, the first couple a times you go through it, it’s very upsetting and your first reaction or one of your friends will say, “Call the police. You really should call the police.” So you think to yourself, you know, you watch TV, you think, “Yeah, I’m calling the police. Stakeouts, manhunts... I’m gonna see some real action.” Right, you think that. So
12:01 mircea_popescu , the police come over to your house, they fill out: The Report. They give you: Your Copy. Now, unless they give the crook his copy, I don’t really think we’re gonna crack this case, do you? It’s not like Batman, where there’s three crooks in the city and everybody pretty much knows, who they are. Very few crooks even go to the trouble to come up with a theme for their careers anymore. It makes them a lot tough
12:01 mircea_popescu er to spot. “Did you lose a sony? It could be the Penguin. I think we can round him up, he’s dressed like a PENGUIN! We can find him, he’s a PENGUIN!
12:01 Mats_cd03 inevitably though, leaders lose their creativity by the time they become flag officers
12:02 Mats_cd03 but its usually lost by the time they make major
12:02 Mats_cd03 too much time flying a desk
12:02 asciilifeform 'mahogany bomber'
12:02 asciilifeform (to the british)
12:04 Mats_cd03 whats worse is mustangs in the system are discouraged by design
12:04 asciilifeform re: burglars: everyone who gets burgled quickly learns j. e. hoover's lesson 'justice is incidental to law and order'
12:05 Mats_cd03 mustangs: former enlisted that received a commission and are now officers (e.g. lieutenant)
12:05 MisterE Mats_cd03: they know all they will need soon are an army of kids controlling bots in a video game like theater
12:05 Mats_cd03 so the best warfighters and leaders of this generation are rapidly being replaced by... high school seniors
12:06 MisterE hell drone program is enough for all but a stupid occupation like Iraq
12:06 MisterE yea
12:06 asciilifeform can't wait for 'we didn't mean to demolish XXX. bot got hacked.'
12:07 Mats_cd03 and thats all the ranting i have for this morning
12:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00093514 = 2.4781 BTC [-]
12:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.04777125 = 0.3822 BTC [-] {3}
12:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.05484888 = 0.4388 BTC [-] {3}
12:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 8 @ 0.10144642 = 0.8116 BTC [-] {3}
12:07 asciilifeform (better excuse than the 'targeting error' that demolished the chinese embassy in belgrade. the one that happened to contain the pieces of the 'stealth' machine.)
12:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 14 @ 0.0475 = 0.665 BTC [-]
12:08 tg2 Oops our gross incompetence lead to this duration but it's really somebody elses fault
12:08 tg2 itt: every exchange in the last year
12:10 tg2 Hackers/transaction maleability/bots
12:10 nubbins` bitcoin is like an early prototype airplane
12:11 nubbins` people say "i want to fly!" and they run after it, grabbing onto the wheels, not realizing the effect their dead weight will have on it
12:11 asciilifeform airlines regularly find stowaways in landing gear shafts, dead of asphyxiation and frost
12:12 asciilifeform there is definitely a parallel here.
12:12 nubbins` right
12:12 nubbins` the question is whether the airplanes will reach the point where the landing gear kills people
12:12 nubbins` before the rest of the fleet crashes and burns
12:12 nubbins` it's a race, i tell ya
12:13 Mats_cd03 well, i hope you'll all be in here when it happens
12:13 asciilifeform to run with the analogy, the plane in question doesn't notice the idiot in the gear well at all.
12:13 mircea_popescu this notion that children can somehow, with a lot of shaving paste and stilts, stand up to adults is laughable.
12:13 mircea_popescu no high school senior hauled up in a basement is EVER going to be a soldier,
12:13 mircea_popescu or matter in this wolrd.
12:18 benkay good shwarma
12:19 benkay xdotcommer: domains as identification? are you pulling my leg or pulling my leg?
12:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.61888 = 2.4755 BTC [+]
12:19 nubbins` wow, winds near Gros Morne exceeded 200km/h last night
12:19 xdotcommer benkay: just telling you how it works... if its a popular site you know then guy aint going to runk with your 2K
12:19 Mats_cd03 pgp is too complicated, man
12:20 xdotcommer pgp is pretty good
12:20 benkay tellin me how it works
12:20 Mats_cd03 theres like, cryptography, and hashes, and stuff
12:20 benkay i don't care about the 2k
12:20 xdotcommer Mats_cd03: moar keywords please
12:20 asciilifeform whichever british gentleman said 'those who do not have time for exercise will have to find time for disease'
12:20 asciilifeform applies to pgp
12:20 benkay i care about someone impersonating you.
12:21 benkay xdotcommer seems to be exercising to look cool
12:21 benkay he says is doesn't work like we think it does
12:21 asciilifeform 'those who do not have time for pgp will have to find time for being pwned'
12:22 benkay those who took the time to pgp are still getting soldering irons in the tuchus.
12:23 xdotcommer You guys are preaching to the choir I am all for this pgp stuff ... just was hard to figure out after night of boozing
12:23 asciilifeform 'hang for a sheep as well as a lamb'
12:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 6049 @ 0.00012478 = 0.7548 BTC [-] {4}
12:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 634 @ 0.00260018 = 1.6485 BTC [-] {8}
12:23 xdotcommer was here last night http://www.startupdrinksmontreal.com/
12:23 benkay fartup scene
12:24 nubbins` ah, that other guy was going on about that last night
12:24 benkay sweet taste of ideas
12:24 xdotcommer benkay: free berr
12:24 nubbins` said something about how he goes there and pitches people's ideas back to them, making them weep when confronted with their own stupidity
12:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4387 @ 0.00012445 = 0.546 BTC [-] {7}
12:24 xdotcommer benkay: portland is not the only place with a startup theme
12:24 benkay nope its unique
12:25 benkay *plugs ears, sings*
12:25 Mats_cd03 if portland is anything like portlandia, it needs to be set afire from orbit
12:25 Mats_cd03 (i got netflix recently)
12:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.00012423 = 0.2485 BTC [-] {4}
12:25 benkay don't believe everything hollywood tells you
12:26 Mats_cd03 hollywood is the one pure truth
12:26 xdotcommer This guys is like the local legend http://www.meetup.com/googleMTL/events/171743832/
12:26 benkay idiot drivers is actually a thing, although that's more because perverse regulation.
12:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 542 @ 0.00043965 = 0.2383 BTC [-] {8}
12:26 xdotcommer Le CryptoCat
12:27 asciilifeform 'Encryption in the Browser' << satan preserve us
12:27 benkay cryptocat was broken by design, right?
12:27 asciilifeform hasn't 'Cryptocat' already fucked its public goat?
12:27 benkay what is he still doing talking about crypto?
12:27 xdotcommer asciilifeform: does not hurt to try
12:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 948 @ 0.00042231 = 0.4003 BTC [-] {7}
12:27 asciilifeform how is bob still bridge-builder
12:27 mircea_popescu either that or designed by the broken
12:27 mircea_popescu xdotcommer apparently you've not tried a great many things.
12:28 benkay last year city council passed some rules about how pedestrians can walk out into the street and demand the right of way
12:28 xdotcommer mircea_popescu: I did not mean for me... if the guy wants to do encryption in the browser ... I say let him go for it
12:28 mircea_popescu im starting to understand something. if we manage to not turn into wikipedia within a decade we'll have actually accomplished an amazing feat.
12:28 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
12:29 mircea_popescu xdotcommer well sure. but in the same sense, if the twelve year old wants to have twins, let her ?
12:29 xdotcommer mircea_popescu: depends in which country I guess
12:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2990 @ 0.00011621 = 0.3475 BTC [-] {7}
12:29 mircea_popescu or whose twelve year old, but yeah.
12:29 mike_c if the three 19 year old CSS developers want to open an options exchange..
12:30 mircea_popescu mike_c how did that thing settle down in the end ? "bitcoin's fault" ?
12:30 xdotcommer mircea_popescu: and in which time/space as well years ago childbirth at 12 was not uncommon
12:30 benkay if the 'crypto enthusiasiast' wants to build crypto humans use...
12:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 100 @ 0.00525234 = 0.5252 BTC [-] {4}
12:30 mike_c i don't think it was bitcoin, it was some altcoin
12:31 mircea_popescu unrelatredly, http://24.media.tumblr.com/8d05d63b08beb33ad107aeed77d7c253/tumblr_mly580FwEY1s84s3eo1_1280.jpg
12:31 blackwhite https://stripe.com/bitcoin
12:31 ozbot Stripe: Bitcoin
12:31 Mats_cd03 mmm looks like california
12:32 xdotcommer is there a way to streamline web of trust to the browser or its IRC only?
12:32 mircea_popescu xdotcommer what are you trying to do ?
12:32 Mats_cd03 what?
12:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.00011051 = 0.5526 BTC [-] {3}
12:32 mircea_popescu mike_c https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=536511.msg5917607#msg5917607
12:32 mircea_popescu it's been replaced.
12:33 benkay ;;gettrust mircea_popescu
12:33 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 5 via 5 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=mircea_popescu | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mircea_popescu | Rated since: Fri Jul 22 11:04:26 2011
12:33 benkay xdotcommer: there's already internet.
12:33 benkay make a form.
12:33 benkay have it post to irc
12:33 benkay ain't that hard
12:33 xdotcommer market place (ebay) using same gpg
12:34 xdotcommer looks like it wont be too hard
12:34 benkay ron gilad
12:34 benkay https://www.google.com/search?q=runner+ron+gilad&espv=210&es_sm=91&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=q1I0U_aVJci8oQTev4KoCw&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1244&bih=679&dpr=2
12:34 the20year3 I'm publishing the announcement shortly, but RentalStarter will be acquiring CryptoREI and thus add a North Carolina branch to our business.
12:34 benkay seventies art is cool again?
12:35 xdotcommer benkay: is that a portland artist of some sort?
12:35 dexX7 benkay: webform posting to irc.. sounds fishy
12:35 the20year3 We will also begin our 2nd tranche on Monday the 31st at .0075btc/share.
12:35 benkay wait a sec let me google that for you xdotcommer
12:35 dexX7 but very related: www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEmO7wQKCMw
12:36 mike_c good thing they opened up new TLDs or these cryptoexchanges would have run out of doman names by now.
12:36 bounce veryexchange.sexy
12:36 mircea_popescu the20year3 that should be interesting.
12:37 the20year3 I think so
12:37 benkay xdotcommer: still need help with google?
12:37 VanCleef how will u sell them at 0075?
12:37 mircea_popescu ideally publish it as something readable, btw.
12:37 benkay anyways, new york, like most good artists.
12:37 VanCleef you will buy up the 0.005's?
12:37 xdotcommer benkay: http://www.rongilad.com/
12:37 benkay oh you found it!
12:37 benkay good for you.
12:38 VanCleef the20year3
12:39 the20year3 ?
12:39 the20year3 VanCleef: i should, but i have no BTC in HL
12:40 benkay !t h rent
12:40 assbot [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00525030 / 0.005265 / 0.00532521 (121 shares, 0.63706440 BTC), 7D: 0.00520970 / 0.00541285 / 0.00563480 (2353 shares, 12.73643556 BTC), 30D: 0.00510111 / 0.00556201 / 0.00900001 (46756 shares, 260.05711417 BTC)
12:40 VanCleef hmmm so how will you be able to sell at 0,0075?
12:40 benkay you're going to sell more for .0075 when they're already on the market for 0.0053?
12:40 the20year3 HL will automatically suspend all buy orders under .0075, so all buys have to go in at .0075
12:40 benkay WHAT
12:40 mircea_popescu wait what ?!
12:40 benkay haha
12:41 benkay you've done it now, boyo
12:41 VanCleef WHAT?!
12:41 the20year3 That's what HL does on all future rounds
12:41 mircea_popescu obviously someone that owns shares can sell at any price they want.
12:41 pankkake usual havelock practice yes
12:41 the20year3 They did it with PETA
12:41 mircea_popescu but it's... fraudulent ?
12:41 the20year3 according to the policies on HL's site?
12:41 pankkake did it with CBTC too
12:41 benkay does this not strike you as a gross breach of free market principles, the20year3 ?
12:42 the20year3 Would it be free market if i went in and bought up all the shares below .0075?
12:42 benkay yes.
12:42 the20year3 maybe i should do that then
12:42 benkay too bad you don't have the cash.
12:42 mircea_popescu but wait. someone buys some shares
12:42 benkay ;;gettrust the20year3
12:42 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user the20year3: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=the20year3 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=the20year3 | Rated since: never
12:42 mircea_popescu and then they're not allowed to sell them anymore ?
12:42 benkay ;;gettrust the20year
12:42 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user the20year: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=the20year | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=the20year | Rated since: never
12:42 mircea_popescu what sort of nonsense is this ?
12:42 Mats_cd03 lol
12:43 the20year3 As per my understanding they can sell after the 2nd round finishes, the same deal with the 1st round
12:43 benkay once again, never do business outside the wot
12:43 mircea_popescu i mean it's like a spiral of web scammy for that place.
12:43 Mats_cd03 does this sort of thing even have a name?
12:43 benkay holy fuck monsters
12:43 mircea_popescu the20year3 but the round can last indefinitely.
12:43 benkay you people have no conscience.
12:43 mircea_popescu Mats_cd03 yeah, "internet fraud" basically.
12:44 asciilifeform does this sort of thing even have a name << chumpatron.
12:44 the20year3 I don't think they're allowed to have an indefinite 2nd round, from my understanding we were required to have a set 2nd round
12:44 the20year3 Otherwise the fund becomes illiquid
12:44 Mats_cd03 oh, i thought there might be a flighty finance term
12:44 Mats_cd03 im also baked out of my mind on pure gold
12:44 pankkake can't you simply put a sell order of new shares?
12:44 mircea_popescu the20year3 at any point you may seriously consider your involvement in this scheme may actually result in criminal charges.
12:45 Apocalyptic pankkake, one does not simply sell shares on havelock
12:45 mircea_popescu topace is nutty enough to imagine he's going to escape through some fraudulent sale to a panama front,
12:45 the20year3 what do you mean pankkake
12:45 mircea_popescu but you should be somewhat more responsible, seeing how you're tied down to real estate.
12:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 643 @ 0.00532521 = 3.4241 BTC [+]
12:45 pankkake I mean do your second round on the open market, not on havelock special IPO feature
12:46 the20year3 That's a possibility too
12:46 mircea_popescu pankkake well other than it'll likely never generate any capital, it would resolve the problem yes.
12:46 topace im not sure where you are getting this information
12:46 topace but it is not correct
12:47 mircea_popescu the general fate to people telling me my information is not correct is aptly represented by one trendon shavers.
12:47 topace [12:40:35] <the20year3> HL will automatically suspend all buy orders under .0075, so all buys have to go in at .0075
12:47 topace ^ is what i was referring to
12:48 topace the platform does not suspend orders below certain thresholds
12:48 the20year3 I may be wrong then
12:48 CheckDavid You guys trade stocks of companies on these exchanges right with or without the need for personal identification?
12:48 mike_c so enlighten us, how does a 2nd round ipo at a higher price than the market price work?
12:48 mircea_popescu "They did it with PETA" " did it with CBTC too" ?
12:48 benkay the20year3: it is staggering that you don't understand your own issuances.
12:48 mircea_popescu seemed uncontroversial.
12:48 the20year3 RS is based primarily on USD and not BTC
12:48 benkay topace: how is this next round at 0.0075 working?
12:48 the20year3 USD price is the same at .0075 as it was when we did the last round at .0055
12:48 benkay it's popcorn week!
12:49 asciilifeform what is 'rental starter' co. anyway
12:49 mircea_popescu benkay he's unrepresented, basically. doesn't have an ib/underwriter/anything.
12:49 topace next round of what ?
12:49 benkay mircea_popescu: i know.
12:49 topace (remember, im no longer involved in running the exchange)
12:49 VanCleef my penis just got a bit hard
12:49 the20year3 how so VanCleef?
12:49 benkay well then how can you make any claims about what can or cannot happen on the exchange, topace?
12:49 mike_c next "tranche" of RENT shares is going to be sold at 75, but market price is 53.
12:49 topace because i wrote the code
12:49 benkay and it couldn't possible have changed
12:49 * VanCleef gives it a flick
12:49 topace there's no "you cant place orders below 0.0075 in the code"
12:50 benkay possibly.
12:50 mircea_popescu http://31.media.tumblr.com/e6dc76047ffec4f107c5d9e99de80c14/tumblr_ml1px0eVbl1sn68hmo1_1280.jpg
12:50 mike_c so what, the block of shares is just released at the same time that open market trading continues?
12:50 benkay wd
12:50 benkay massive sell wall at 0.0075 that never gets eaten?
12:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.05484888 = 0.2742 BTC [-]
12:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 42 @ 0.00562729 = 0.2363 BTC [+] {2}
12:51 mircea_popescu benkay well, maybe it does get eaten eventually.
12:51 Mats_cd03 i am not aroused mircea_popescu
12:51 mircea_popescu likely not right now
12:51 the20year3 I don't think they can put in an indefinite sell wall , and at any rate there's no reason for us to fundraise past $1.5m USD
12:51 topace im sorry i can only comment on what i see on the site, i dont see a new tranche?
12:51 benkay mircea_popescu: explain it like i'm at least twelve
12:51 the20year3 It's starting Monday around noon
12:52 mike_c asciilifeform: https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=RENT they buy houses in ohio and rent them out.
12:52 benkay topace: you can't make any claims about the code they're running if you can't make any claims about the code they're running.
12:52 mircea_popescu benkay dat ambiguous status.
12:52 benkay the bet would be does the wall get eaten or rentalstarter fall apart first
12:53 benkay fall apart/delist/get indicted
12:53 benkay who knows - maybe there's three more months of going short btc via rent
12:55 mircea_popescu kind-of a pity in that a well managed business on those lines makes some sense.
12:55 VanCleef anyone heard fromsfi lately?
12:55 VanCleef sfi
12:55 VanCleef or didthey just do a runner?
12:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 210 @ 0.0026 = 0.546 BTC [-] {2}
12:56 benkay the20year3: do please explain precisely how this new tranche is working
12:56 benkay bring an underwriter or someone who understands
12:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 402 @ 0.0004088 = 0.1643 BTC [-]
12:58 mircea_popescu VanCleef i have no idea, were they due a report or something ?
12:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 30 @ 0.0056274 = 0.1688 BTC [+]
12:59 mike_c ^ heh. "rent shares rose on news that they will soon be forced to be worth 0.0075 btc"
12:59 asciilifeform mike_c: if only this existed in my town (and, run by something other than scammers)
13:00 VanCleef i dont know just haven't heard from them since
13:00 mike_c asciilifeform: well, no strong indications that it is run by scammers. just that they don't understand their relationship with havelock very well..
13:00 mircea_popescu asciilifeform apparently ohio or w/e this one is has very advantageous economics for this business
13:01 benkay they're crossing the wires though
13:01 mircea_popescu which incidentally begs the question, why a merger with someone in a diff market ? does it benefit from equally good economics ?
13:01 benkay cannot touch both fiat and crypto at once
13:01 asciilifeform has very advantageous economics for this << how's that
13:01 VanCleef i think he should just sell the shares for 0.008 instead
13:01 mircea_popescu much of rent is predicated on its operator familiarirt with the field, that doesn't seem to translate too well across a geographic distance
13:01 mircea_popescu asciilifeform very low land values / high rents.
13:02 asciilifeform quite the same here. and yet, i've been trying and failing to rent a house for ages.
13:02 mircea_popescu its been discussed in teh at some point coupla months ago, i don't recall the specifics
13:03 asciilifeform to be fair, it is a little bit from the peculiar conditions where i live. most of the rentals are geared for students, and are gigantic, divided into rooms.
13:04 ThickAsThieves <the20year3> HL will automatically suspend all buy orders under .0075, so all buys have to go in at .0075 //// dafuck?
13:04 VanCleef woohoo
13:04 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves do they actually do this as ppl claim or not ?
13:04 VanCleef buy now
13:04 benkay welcome to this morning, ThickAsThieves
13:04 ThickAsThieves i dont think it can be done
13:05 ThickAsThieves more likely,
13:05 ThickAsThieves is the tranche will be sold through "IPO" feature
13:05 ThickAsThieves where there is no orderbook
13:05 mike_c topace said it can't, but also that he isn't involved so he doesn't know.
13:05 blackwhite https://www.onename.io/
13:05 Mats_cd03 i think the confusion here lays with the recent depreciation of btc/usd and the capital RS actually needs to be denominated in usd
13:05 ThickAsThieves now if HL shuts down normal trading during that...
13:05 asciilifeform in the u.s. in general, people with money (but not quite a 'fortune') who want to rent something nice vs. playing debt games, are a bit of an under-served market.
13:05 ThickAsThieves that would effectively recreate the situation you are going for
13:06 ThickAsThieves but it's a fucked up proposition
13:06 benkay no shit
13:06 ThickAsThieves i see no reason to disrupt the live orderbook
13:06 ThickAsThieves it's listed, it's live
13:06 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i suspect that ties into my "dual currency" earlier :
13:07 mircea_popescu people with money, actual money, are underserved because not part of bezzle.
13:07 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves i can see some reasons...
13:07 ThickAsThieves well...
13:07 benkay IT'S ALL A SCAM
13:08 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i'm paid in perfectly ordinary u.s. bezzlars
13:08 KRS-One heh
13:08 VanCleef 3 chinese bitcoiners were executed today
13:08 benkay link, VanCleef ?
13:09 VanCleef jokes
13:09 KRS-One lies
13:09 benkay ;;ticker
13:09 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 520.06, Best ask: 526.96, Bid-ask spread: 6.90000, Last trade: 520.06, 24 hour volume: 33543.19632708, 24 hour low: 505.0, 24 hour high: 587.49, 24 hour vwap: 540.479270299
13:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17350 @ 0.00093745 = 16.2648 BTC [+] {2}
13:09 VanCleef thenext china rumor ;)
13:09 benkay bitstamp's running fractional too, right?
13:09 mircea_popescu asciilifeform sure you are, because they CLAIOM to be convertible
13:09 mircea_popescu just as long as not too many are converted.
13:09 ThickAsThieves didnt they do an 'audit'?
13:09 benkay audit my butthole
13:09 benkay ;;google bitstamp audit
13:09 gribble Statement regarding recent third party audit report - Bitstamp: <https://www.bitstamp.net/article/statemen-regarding-recent-third-party-audit-report/>; Statement by Bitstamp regarding Mt Gox insolvency - Bitstamp: <https://www.bitstamp.net/article/Statement-by-Bitstamp-regarding-MtGox-insolv/>; Bitstamp - buy and sell bitcoins: <https://www.bitstamp.net/>
13:09 asciilifeform well i did say bezzlars.
13:10 mircea_popescu speaking of turkeys in new york : "ground turkey meat, was $2 for 20 oz. 2.5 years ago on sale ; it's $4.50 for 20 oz. on sale now."
13:10 Mats_cd03 turkey: the inferior chicken
13:10 benkay firestartr are some no-names, iirc ThickAsThieves
13:10 mircea_popescu ;;calc 2.25 ** (1/30)
13:10 gribble 1.02739965906
13:10 mircea_popescu 2.8% inflation. PER MONTH
13:11 tg2 turkey index
13:11 tg2 turkeys are a... growth market
13:11 asciilifeform incidentally, nothing (at least, at present time) stops an owner of XXXX bezzlars from driving to a precious metals seller and filling as many buckets as he can afford.
13:11 mircea_popescu asciilifeform as long as he buys... paper gold.
13:11 mircea_popescu ie, goldzzars.
13:11 Mats_cd03 i still have 2 frozen turkeys from thanksgiving
13:11 asciilifeform they don't sell this in shops around here
13:11 asciilifeform mostly numismatic coin
13:11 mircea_popescu try taking 100k out of your savings, buying gold bricks and driving them to mexico.
13:11 Mats_cd03 ever deep fry a turkey? its godly
13:12 mircea_popescu what was that shop that'd deep fry anything ? butter, water, icecream
13:12 Mats_cd03 youve piqued my curiousity
13:12 tg2 mmm deep fried butter
13:12 tg2 lol
13:12 tg2 #justamericanthings
13:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07288954 = 0.2187 BTC [-] {2}
13:13 tg2 > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chxzSIAWA2g
13:13 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/786/bitcoin-to-surpass-berkshire-as-an-investment/
13:14 ozbot BitBet - Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment
13:14 mircea_popescu and the 1year berkshire based btc bond just went to 3%
13:14 mircea_popescu well... 2.81%
13:15 ThickAsThieves it'll probly get to 30%+ i bet
13:15 ThickAsThieves heh, can you make bets on bets?
13:15 mircea_popescu we tried yest but it didn't stick
13:15 nubbins` ^
13:15 Mats_cd03 when i was 8 a family friend told me peanut butter was a preservative and i could live forever if i ate enough of it at once
13:16 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Deep frying anything is more of a State Fair schtick
13:16 VanCleef could someone help me word a bet on bitbet so its allowed?
13:16 ThickAsThieves one day mp will owe me a favor, and Schrodinger's BitBet will happen
13:16 ThickAsThieves ok probly not
13:16 mircea_popescu lol
13:16 ThickAsThieves but i can dream
13:16 Mats_cd03 the next day i woke up early and had an XL jar of skippys...i temporarily replaced blood with peanut butter for a few hours
13:16 VanCleef i want to bet that Australia wont win one single group match for the fifa world cup
13:16 mircea_popescu VanCleef sure, why not
13:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 40 @ 0.0056271 = 0.2251 BTC [-]
13:17 mircea_popescu is this tracked anywhere ?
13:18 VanCleef i'm sure fifa.com keep scores on their website
13:18 mircea_popescu can you list the matches ?
13:18 VanCleef i can list who else is in the group
13:18 mircea_popescu generally, you want the bet well specified.
13:18 mircea_popescu "x y z will happen, here's the link to it measured"
13:19 TestingUnoDosTre MP, I tried making a bet on 3M that was worded very similar to the berkshire one, and the mods rejected it because it was outlandish
13:19 VanCleef ahh ok
13:19 VanCleef so more details teh better
13:19 mircea_popescu TestingUnoDosTre i vaguely recall some discusison re a 3m bet a month or so ago, was this the same one ?
13:20 TestingUnoDosTre yes. the bet was stated that the ratio of MMM to BTC would stay above .2 until may or something of the sort
13:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00093774 = 10.8778 BTC [+]
13:20 CheckDavid Which platform do you suggest to fund a startup?
13:20 TestingUnoDosTre or at the end of may
13:20 mircea_popescu did it carry ~1k btc in zeroconf ?
13:20 benkay !t h rent
13:20 assbot [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00525030 / 0.00536113 / 0.00562740 (907 shares, 4.86254898 BTC), 7D: 0.00520970 / 0.00540361 / 0.00563480 (3139 shares, 16.96192014 BTC), 30D: 0.00510111 / 0.00555895 / 0.00900001 (47528 shares, 264.20559875 BTC)
13:21 TestingUnoDosTre lol of course not, but the berkshire bet didn't start out with 1k btc
13:21 ThickAsThieves the 3M was discussed already no need to rehash
13:21 ThickAsThieves bet*
13:21 mircea_popescu TestingUnoDosTre course it did.
13:21 TestingUnoDosTre fine fine fine
13:21 ThickAsThieves pull the log and read it again if you want re-experience it
13:21 mircea_popescu anyway, my car is here so we'll have to continue later!
13:21 TomServo TestingUnoDosTre: Just curious, why 3M?
13:21 VanCleef i thought you ony rode horses?
13:22 TestingUnoDosTre because I want to convert losses in MMM to wins in BTC
13:22 TestingUnoDosTre or theoretically be able to l)
13:22 TestingUnoDosTre ;)
13:23 TestingUnoDosTre I may or may not have worked for the company for a couple years and amassed to much of a concentrated holding due to putting 10% of each pay check into stock options
13:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00093514 = 8.6033 BTC [-]
13:25 Mats_cd03 https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/364808300
13:25 ozbot USAJOBS - Search Jobs
13:25 Mats_cd03 Job Title:DEFENSE INTELLIGENCE OFFICER FOR EURASIA
13:25 Mats_cd03 hahahaha someone in the DIA got shit-canned over ukraine
13:26 Mats_cd03 most interesting thing all day
13:26 tg2 > $120,749.00 to $175,000.00 / Per Year
13:26 TestingUnoDosTre 120 to 175k. lol
13:26 tg2 lol
13:26 tg2 ^
13:26 TestingUnoDosTre imagine how much pressure that position is right now
13:26 tg2 haha
13:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 40 @ 0.0056275 = 0.2251 BTC [+]
13:27 tg2 seems to me that offering a salary that pathetic to somebody in that position is either a sign of an incompetent office in the event they're looking for somebody competent, or of a smart one if they're looking for a patsy/puppet
13:27 tg2 likely the previous occupant was the opposite
13:27 asciilifeform Job Title:DEFENSE INTELLIGENCE OFFICER FOR EASTASIA
13:28 tg2 "Putting the welfare of the Nation and commitment to our mission before oneself." .... for $120k.
13:28 tg2 i know people who work on css all day and make more than that
13:29 joecool tg2: seems legit
13:29 nubbins` asciilifeform XD
13:29 nubbins` salary: doubleplus good
13:30 kow tg2 is a liar I met him irl he is like 300lbs, poor, and doesn't leave his apartment which is just full of stacks of old books and empty stouffers containers which he's saving for the points
13:30 tg2 k\o\w, can you ;;rate me then
13:30 tg2 :D
13:30 kow ;;rate tg2 fat
13:30 gribble Error: 'fat' is not a valid integer.
13:30 tg2 lol
13:31 tg2 ;;ident k\o\w
13:31 gribble Nick 'k\o\w', with hostmask 'k\o\w!~kow@69-196-151-22.dsl.teksavvy.com', is not identified.
13:31 tg2 bro GPG up or else who the fuck are you anyway
13:31 kow careful with that or I'll doxx u
13:31 TestingUnoDosTre hahaha
13:31 tg2 bro sharpie up
13:31 tg2 bro
13:32 nubbins` http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/morning-after-pills-less-effective-for-heavier-women-warning-will-say-1.2588527
13:32 ozbot Morning-after pills less effective for heavier women, warning will say - Health - CBC News
13:32 mod6 a guy once got 1bn satoshi for that
13:32 joecool !eauth joecool
13:32 TestingUnoDosTre is doxxing kinda like goxxing?
13:32 nubbins` interesting
13:32 joecool ugh
13:32 the20year3 I could very well be wrong about how HL is handling it, i made the assumption (right or wrong) that they treat it as a new IPO
13:32 benkay the20year3: and freeze trading on the new asset to support your new imaginary valuation?
13:32 nubbins` TIL that morning-after pills don't work if you weigh more than 175lbs
13:33 benkay old* asset
13:33 kow tg2 I sold some BTC to a dude in mcdonalds yesterday, the guy knew NOTHING about it, didn't even know how to confirm my deposit, said he's been buying half a BTC every week. I think I met a BTC prepper.
13:33 tg2 k\o\w, shouldn't you have backdoor-laced operating systems to be releasing?!
13:33 Mats_cd03 ;;ud dox
13:33 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dox | Dox, or being doxed, in terms of online forum sites, is the physical equivalent of being butt-raped irl. Just as all the greats have, when a person is "doxed", ...
13:33 ozbot Urban Dictionary: dox
13:33 tg2 ;;ud broscience
13:33 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=broscience | Broscience is the predominant brand of reasoning in bodybuilding circles where the anecdotal reports of jacked dudes are considered more credible t...
13:33 ozbot Urban Dictionary: broscience
13:33 Mats_cd03 ;;ud doxxed
13:33 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dox | ... dox of boughnuts · doxology · Doxops · Doxosophist · doxuges · doxx · doxxed · doxy · Doxylamine · doxymoron · doy · Doya · Do Ya Bad ( DYB) · doyacht.
13:33 ozbot Urban Dictionary: dox
13:33 Mats_cd03 ud you are useless
13:34 kow tg2, I've been busy and other people took over the dev :(
13:34 benkay the20year3: will you be allowing existing rent stockholders to sell their shares at 0.0075 as well?
13:34 Mats_cd03 ;;wiki doxing
13:34 gribble Error: "wiki" is not a valid command.
13:34 tg2 doyacht
13:34 tg2 k\o\w, I havce a nice project you might like
13:34 Mats_cd03 ;;google doxing wiki
13:34 gribble Doxing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doxing>; Dox - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dox>; Personally identifiable information - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personally_identifiable_information>
13:34 tg2 alrady recuited some of your coconspirators
13:34 TestingUnoDosTre ;ud goxxed
13:34 tg2 ;;ud goxxed
13:34 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=goxxed | Jun 26, 2011 ... goxxed. The act of being screwed by an online merchant, specifically due to the merchant being incompetent and amateurish. Derived from the ...
13:34 ozbot Urban Dictionary: goxxed
13:34 tg2 lol
13:34 TestingUnoDosTre creepy
13:35 TestingUnoDosTre why did it only return once?
13:35 Mats_cd03 http://www.ctc.usma.edu/posts/the-finnish-foreign-fighter-contingent-in-syria
13:35 ozbot The Finnish Foreign Fighter Contingent in Syria | Combating Terrorism Center at West Point
13:35 kow tell me more tg2
13:35 the20year3 THat's a good question benkay, i'll need to check into it, but I assume the answer is yes
13:35 Mats_cd03 who the fuck invited the finns to a civil war?
13:35 tg2 http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=mtgox&sign=ANY&type=RECV
13:35 ozbot Rating Details for User 'mtgox'
13:35 tg2 this whole WOT thing is working well I see
13:35 the20year3 lots of syrians in Finland going back
13:36 Mats_cd03 i hope they canceled their life insurance policies
13:36 xdotcommer ;;help
13:36 gribble The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/
13:36 tg2 yeah if I was syrian and didn't live in syria the first thing I'd do is high tail it back to syria
13:36 tg2 obv.
13:37 tg2 land of the free
13:37 tg2 fk this vanity gpg generator is an entropy whore
13:37 tg2 will otc accept a 2048b key?
13:37 tg2 guessing it should
13:37 Mats_cd03 syria's a nice place
13:38 Mats_cd03 sadly some of it is shelled to bits now
13:38 tg2 syria, home of the brave.
13:39 BingoBoingo tg2: 2048 is probably the minimum reasonable size
13:39 TestingUnoDosTre learning so much about soviet history from bitcoin-assets
13:40 tg2 I would think that it /could/ accept a 1024 key
13:40 tg2 but I wouldn't use one
13:40 TestingUnoDosTre why not?
13:40 Mats_cd03 cause hes contrarian
13:40 tg2 my tinfoil hat is neatly folded
13:40 pankkake otc accepted my old 1024 key, so
13:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00093671 = 15.2684 BTC [+]
13:40 TestingUnoDosTre lol
13:40 tg2 last 1024 key I had expired some time ago
13:40 TestingUnoDosTre ;;ud contrarian
13:41 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=contrarian | contrarian. Someone who automatically tends to take the opposite point of view from the person to whom they're speaking, or to disagree with society at large ...
13:41 ozbot Urban Dictionary: contrarian
13:41 TestingUnoDosTre awww. Was hoping for something dirtier
13:41 tg2 Mats_cd03, AM NOT
13:41 Mats_cd03 am so
13:41 tg2 I can't agree with that.
13:41 Mats_cd03 i suppose we can disagree on disagreeing
13:41 tg2 and if I did, would that prove it wrong?
13:41 tg2 gl circular reasoning
13:41 the20year3 RS NAV right now is around 1,000btc
13:42 Mats_cd03 too many levels, im going to fall off a bridge while inside a van
13:42 tg2 brb sha1 1024 gpg key inbound
13:43 pankkake FYI you can create stronger subkeys
13:44 benkay tg2: read moar, derp less: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=110861.msg1227871#msg1227871
13:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00093663 = 0.6556 BTC [-]
13:48 benkay keep making noise, tho 'bro'. it'll get you far.
13:48 TestingUnoDosTre tell me about this subkey
13:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00093915 = 9.5793 BTC [+] {3}
13:50 benkay TestingUnoDosTre: https://alexcabal.com/creating-the-perfect-gpg-keypair/
13:50 pankkake TestingUnoDosTre: https://wiki.debian.org/subkeys
13:50 TestingUnoDosTre gracias
13:50 xdotcommer tg2: stop derping bro
13:50 pankkake and you probably already have one subkey
13:51 _aeon LOUD NOISES
13:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 45 @ 0.0056499 = 0.2542 BTC [+]
13:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00093514 = 6.1252 BTC [-]
13:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 30 @ 0.00569 = 0.1707 BTC [+]
13:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5600 @ 0.00010804 = 0.605 BTC [-] {9}
13:57 xdotcommer tg2: fall in line
13:59 dexX7 the20year3: could you please tell me, if issuer's funds are locked during an ipo on havelock and is it correct that buyers are unable to undercut the issuer during the ipo? are updates of any kind during an ipo allowed, e.g. a description?
14:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 29 @ 0.00596 = 0.1728 BTC [+]
14:03 benkay dexX7: just assume you're going to get fucked, no lube. it's the havelock way.
14:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 371 @ 0.00599999 = 2.226 BTC [+] {2}
14:04 benkay have-a-cock
14:04 dexX7 haha no, don't get me wrong
14:04 dexX7 i'm not trying to evaluate the chances of creating a scam :o
14:04 benkay "someone"'s pushing rent up to the .0075 line.
14:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 125 @ 0.006 = 0.75 BTC [+]
14:05 benkay not even bothering to sell
14:05 benkay what kind of kiddy bullshit is this
14:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00093301 = 12.3157 BTC [-]
14:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.000932 = 4.66 BTC [-] {3}
14:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07288952 = 0.3644 BTC [-]
14:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.0060947 = 3.0474 BTC [+] {9}
14:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 600 @ 0.00255253 = 1.5315 BTC [-] {12}
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14:47 TestingUnoDosTre okay question about gpg keys hya
14:50 TestingUnoDosTre If I created a master key with my name and email attached to it, but I want to some business anonymously. Let's just say I want to publish an anonymous blog or something. Could I generate an anonymous subkey and sign all my blog documents with the subkey, and there would be no way anyone could find my master key and therefore my name and email address?
14:50 benkay TestingUnoDosTre: don't ask to ask just ask
14:51 TestingUnoDosTre aka is there a link from my no-named subkey to my public key from my master?
14:52 nubbins` intuition tells me yes, there is
14:52 nubbins` but who knows
14:52 TestingUnoDosTre perhaps a person in here?
14:52 benkay if you want to decouple identities, decouple identities.
14:52 TestingUnoDosTre meaning how
14:52 TestingUnoDosTre just generate a different master key?
14:52 nubbins` ^
14:52 benkay I personally would use separate master keys for different identities.
14:53 benkay it'll help guard against mistakes.
14:53 bounce AIUI the link goes from the master to the sub, not the other way around. but would have to dig into the protocol to figure that one out.
14:54 bounce but yes, easier to not overload keys and just make a new key instead.
14:54 benkay can you sign with subkeys?
14:54 TestingUnoDosTre yes, I believe one can make a signing subkey
14:55 benkay i'd separate concerns here.
14:55 benkay if you're not comfortable with the whole master key subordinate key thing and confident that you can always do the right thing, guard against "yourself as your own worst enemy" and use separate master keys.
14:55 TestingUnoDosTre I have only generated one master key at the moment though, but I think it was truly a DSA elgamel pair
14:56 TestingUnoDosTre mmkay
14:56 bounce the thing is of course that as soon as you publish for all to see your public master key it'll have subs that were supposed to remain sooper seekrit.
14:58 TestingUnoDosTre that is what I needed to understand
14:58 BingoBoingo http://deadspin.com/this-unc-athletes-paper-is-a-joke-whos-to-blame-1552798110
14:58 ozbot This UNC Athlete's Paper Is A Joke. Who's To Blame?
14:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9098 @ 0.00093301 = 8.4885 BTC [+]
15:00 nubbins` a-minus
15:00 nubbins` lelelel
15:00 BingoBoingo Quality 'Murican education
15:01 TestingUnoDosTre can we just stop thinking that somehow athletes need to gain an education? Basketball players at UNC especially, keep some fine moneys flowing through the system
15:01 benkay murka
15:01 benkay murka murka jihad
15:01 benkay pretty sure that most american educations gave up on thinking a long time ago, TestingUnoDosTre
15:02 benkay god bless bootstrap.
15:02 nubbins` ^ it's what makes my computer work
15:02 benkay there is an element i am completely failing to address for teh style override
15:03 benkay lol nubbins`
15:06 TestingUnoDosTre I had some good teachers, but they were few and far between
15:11 benkay HeySteve2: did you ever sort your wallet?
15:18 the20year3 dexX7: I believe issuer funds are locked from trading, but the issuer can withdraw funds for whatever business purchases they have, as long as the new proceeds meet the minimum threshold. The updates are definately recommended during any ipo/fund phase.
15:20 dexX7 ah, thanks
15:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.605505 = 2.422 BTC [-] {3}
15:25 benkay ;;lasers
15:25 gribble ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
15:27 the20year3 Additionally, if there's extreme investor outrage of the 2nd round, we'll cancel it, but as of this moment i haven't seen that.
15:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 46 @ 0.0160002 = 0.736 BTC [+]
15:27 dexX7 the20year3: is there a max time how long an ipo can be active and trading is disabled for buyers?
15:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23300 @ 0.0009313 = 21.6993 BTC [-]
15:29 the20year3 I think it's 30 days
15:29 the20year3 That's what it was for the last round
15:29 dexX7 ty
15:31 mike_c the20year3: any comment on mp's question about the NC expansion? paraphrasing: you have advantages in ohio (namely the economics and your expertise), and how will those scale to NC?
15:38 the20year3 The big barrier to entry is capital and capital management than personal experience. I know that seems odd, but if you'd talk to any REI group you'd find out that money is the #1 problem to starting out and getting good properties.
15:39 TestingUnoDosTre intresting
15:39 the20year3 In the case of this CREI deal, they already have a solid candidate for a property, i've already reviewed the comps, documents and everything associated with the deal and feel it's a very good buy.
15:40 the20year3 CREI has been wholesaling (Locating properties, selling the leads to investors) for 3 years now and has had well over a dozen profitable deals for the end investors. That's a very good track record, but his problem is the same problem that i have had since 2008 - Capital. So, we can come in as RS with just a little bit of capital, offer it to them for very, very lucrative terms.
15:42 the20year3 Then , the other consideraiton on my end is that we have some very large investors who want to see us work on developing these partnerships moreso than just dealing with slummy properties in central Ohio.
15:43 mike_c seems like a lot of counterparty risk with those partnerships. but you obviously understand the biz more than I
15:44 the20year3 They certainly exist, but i think the reward potential is much higher than the risks. We've got solid properties here in Ohio, and are getting more, and i feel that if we could add higher profit potential to the mix it would benefit the fund
15:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00093301 = 14.4617 BTC [+]
15:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 123 @ 0.00263568 = 0.3242 BTC [+] {3}
15:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 77 @ 0.0026 = 0.2002 BTC [-]
15:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 800 @ 0.00235044 = 1.8804 BTC [-] {20}
15:59 CheckDavid Hi. I was wondering about the solutions that exist in the cryptocurrency space regarding funding startups
16:00 CheckDavid Can any one just give some lights?
16:00 dexX7 hey, can you be more specific?
16:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.00093301 = 20.0597 BTC [+]
16:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07288951 = 0.2187 BTC [-]
16:05 dexX7 the20year3: sorry for all those questions. in the case you do a second ipo round, i assume trading is also locked? and: from which pool are those ipo 2 shares taken? do you define a fixed number during the asset creation and sell a partion of those in round 1 and the rest in round 2 for example?
16:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 96 @ 0.00230041 = 0.2208 BTC [-] {2}
16:06 kakobrekla hm
16:06 kakobrekla lets try this
16:06 kakobrekla http://piratepad.net/or1RSxpueo
16:06 ozbot PiratePad: or1RSxpueo
16:06 kakobrekla fill it up?
16:07 kakobrekla i dont remember who was volunteering
16:07 kakobrekla ping mircea_popescu , benkay , mike_c , everyoneelsethatiforgot
16:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1963 @ 0.00221117 = 4.3405 BTC [-] {6}
16:08 dexX7 afaik there is no form available
16:08 kakobrekla a?
16:09 kakobrekla this is a multi player notepad
16:09 kakobrekla you copy paste shit below.
16:09 the20year3 I think trading is locked dexX7, the shares are just taken from the original pool of shares that we had as part of the pseudo-PPM/Original business plan's funding goals.
16:09 kakobrekla ah im talking to myself okay
16:10 dexX7 didn't you use the pad to send me the message "go find the submission form instead of asking"?
16:10 TestingUnoDosTre seriously though. recommended reading is a book from the Duck Dynasty?
16:10 CheckDavid dexX7: can got help me be more specific?
16:10 mike_c good idea kako. maybe put a link on b-a.com?
16:10 CheckDavid I was wondering maybe issue stock
16:10 CheckDavid Or something
16:10 TestingUnoDosTre gl bra
16:10 kakobrekla and anal rape is a video from some production house, so what
16:10 benkay why not a !sr <link>, kakobrekla ?
16:10 CheckDavid I know there several solutions
16:11 dexX7 there are. mind to share your business plan?
16:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2000 @ 0.00220557 = 4.4111 BTC [-] {6}
16:12 kakobrekla mike_c i will put the curated version of the piratepad on the static b-a page
16:12 dexX7 the20year3: thanks again ;)
16:12 kakobrekla at least thats the idea
16:12 mike_c cool
16:13 kakobrekla but its up to #bitcoin-assets to come up with the content
16:13 the20year3 np
16:15 dexX7 good idea re pad with info stuff
16:15 CheckDavid dexX7: a jobs board with a scheduled equity distribution plan for members
16:16 benkay dafuq?
16:16 benkay that's precisely what ninjashogun was prattling about.
16:16 CheckDavid Yes
16:16 CheckDavid He is my partner
16:17 CheckDavid It's his idea originally
16:17 benkay ;;gettrust CheckDavid
16:17 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user CheckDavid: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=CheckDavid | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=CheckDavid | Rated since: never
16:18 benkay https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135834.msg1447083#msg1447083
16:18 ozbot [MPEx] S.BBET BitBet IPO an astounding success
16:18 benkay "Spoiler: It's not going to beat betsofbitco.in"
16:18 dexX7 well anyway. basically there are cryptostocks.com, havelockinvestments.com and mpex.co. if you want to scam, go to cs, if you want to reach the regular bitcointalk and reddit user, use havelock. mpex is most likely out of your reach.
16:19 CheckDavid benkay: I am not trading. So I guess I don't need to be verified?
16:19 benkay i guess you miss the point.
16:19 CheckDavid Lol I don't want to scam :)
16:20 CheckDavid Oh sorry benkay . could you please explain the point?
16:20 xdotcomm_ CheckDavid: fall in line
16:21 CheckDavid dexX7: I heard crypto stocks was scamish
16:21 CheckDavid BingoBoingo: said that I think
16:21 benkay CheckDavid: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=110861.msg1227871#msg1227871
16:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 217 @ 0.00213 = 0.4622 BTC [-] {3}
16:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.605 = 1.21 BTC [-]
16:22 dexX7 CheckDavid: the point benkay is trying to make: don't ask for money, if you have no reputation nor the willingness to be "verified"
16:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29400 @ 0.000932 = 27.4008 BTC [-] {2}
16:23 CheckDavid I see benkay . Thanks
16:23 CheckDavid I didn't ask for money
16:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.0020387 = 1.0194 BTC [-] {5}
16:23 CheckDavid I asked for advice though
16:23 CheckDavid And good advice is as good as money..
16:23 CheckDavid So OK :)
16:23 dexX7 hehe
16:23 dexX7 wasn't meant this way
16:24 dexX7 but "asking for money" is implied by "i want to start a business and therefore i ask about exchanges"
16:24 CheckDavid Moniz pliz guy tnx
16:24 benkay you're investigating listing a stock of some sort, right?
16:24 CheckDavid Gime moniz
16:24 CheckDavid Lol
16:24 CheckDavid benkay: considering options
16:24 BingoBoingo CheckDavid: At some point the kind's of advice you seek might... Imply intentions about how you might use that advice...
16:24 CheckDavid And yes could include that
16:25 benkay there are all the scam hosters over there that don't require identity or anything, allowing companies like CaVirtEx to walk off with customer funds and Rentalstarter to arbitrarily halt trading so they can sell their inflated stock at some imaginary value.
16:25 CheckDavid BingoBoingo: yes. So what?
16:25 CheckDavid BingoBoingo: humans ate always verifying intentions :)
16:25 benkay on the other hand, there's the harder and tougher path to accredidation with people not engaged in fucking people as a matter of habit in -assets.
16:25 CheckDavid I see.
16:26 dexX7 benkay: do you think there shouldn't be a trading freeze during a funding round?
16:26 CheckDavid You didn't mention when exchanges themselves run away
16:26 benkay in what sane world does this make sense
16:26 benkay dexX7:
16:26 benkay either their paper is worth what the market will pay for it or its not
16:26 BingoBoingo CheckDavid: Well these things are going to color people's reactions. Instead of getting reactively defensive note people's concerns and think about how you can correct things in the future when you want to actually do the thing you solicit advice for, if you make it too that stage.
16:26 benkay if it were really worth .0075 the price would reflect that.
16:27 CheckDavid BingoBoingo: *to
16:27 CheckDavid Haha lol
16:27 benkay and previous shareholders should get to sell at .0075 as well.
16:27 CheckDavid OK. Just messing. Well. Good advice BingoBoingo
16:28 CheckDavid I an not trying to convince anyone of any business at the moment though
16:28 CheckDavid I feel a bit far away from that point at the moment
16:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 116 @ 0.002 = 0.232 BTC [-] {4}
16:28 benkay dexX7: does this make sense?
16:29 CheckDavid Ok so dexX7. Your suggestion is basically to consider a number of exchanges right?
16:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 57 @ 0.00199999 = 0.114 BTC [-]
16:33 dexX7 benkay: what about the case that one puts up a buy wall lower than the ipo price and then undercuts the issuer? i guess that would be a reflection of "not enough buyer"?
16:34 benkay supply and demand must agree on a price.
16:34 benkay the havelock approach is to fix a price and wait for the suckers to come by.
16:34 dexX7 CheckDavid: well, no. i assumed your question was "where can i issue a stock?" and thus my answer, but maybe you should rephrase your initial question once again.
16:34 dexX7 yup true
16:35 CheckDavid dexX7: I am just looking for funding solutions in general. Being issuing and selling stock one of the potential solutions
16:35 benkay they're compounding this fraud by suspending the hallowed process of price discovery to entice another round of suckers into their finger-trap.
16:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.00190001 = 0.152 BTC [-]
16:35 benkay at a hilariously higher price, i might point out.
16:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.60333366 = 1.81 BTC [-] {2}
16:37 dexX7 the following case is not possible: say everyone wants to sell, but i'm still willing to give the issuer my coins for whatever reason. non-freezed trading doesn't allow this
16:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 114 @ 0.00190001 = 0.2166 BTC [-]
16:37 Mats_cd03 add some more material to the reading list
16:38 benkay that's an irrational move, dexX7. why not just buy the shares on the open market?
16:38 the20year3 How much is a stock worth?
16:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 450 @ 0.00229999 = 1.035 BTC [+] {2}
16:38 the20year3 The problem is the value most of the time is arbitrary, especially with bitcoin stocks as the bulk of the value is just speculation based on whatever positive/negative news is coming out about the company
16:39 dexX7 benkay: in this case my intention would not be to buy shares but to provide funds for the issuer
16:39 the20year3 In our case, with the decrease of BTC:USD, the BTC value of our company goes up, because the vast majority of our assets are denominated in USD, but the BTC price doesn't accurately reflect it because the trades for the most part just trend on news
16:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 48 @ 0.00609698 = 0.2927 BTC [-]
16:40 benkay dexX7: so send your money directly to the guy - who cares?
16:40 benkay the point is that he's allowed to sell more shares in his company at above market prices when nobody else is.
16:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07288951 = 0.1458 BTC [-] {2}
16:41 dexX7 i competely get your point and i agree, i'm just thinking about potential reasons
16:41 benkay so throw your money directly to the guy like you did with Gox.
16:41 benkay the20year3: this is the painful part of touching both rails at the same time.
16:42 benkay nobody knows how to value anything in BTC alone, much less mixed-assets.
16:42 benkay plus, your investors are a bunch of trend-traders.
16:42 the20year3 Depends on which investors you're talking about
16:42 benkay havelock, duh.
16:42 the20year3 The guys that have given me near $100k? I don't see them trading around stock
16:42 xdotcomm_ benkay: how come exchanges /etc are not using this https://gpgauth.org/
16:43 benkay xdotcomm_: are you familiar with MPEx?
16:43 xdotcomm_ benkay: just recently saw it
16:43 benkay k there's your answer.
16:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 30 @ 0.01600003 = 0.48 BTC [-] {4}
16:44 benkay the20year3: either your investors are trading on news or they're not trading around
16:44 benkay pick one
16:44 the20year3 The bulk are not trading at all
16:44 xdotcomm_ benkay: its the only one?
16:44 benkay yup. everyone else uses phones.
16:44 the20year3 the stock price that is moving around is being moved by guys who own a few hundred shares and have half a btc in the exchange
16:45 benkay !t h rent
16:45 assbot [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00525030 / 0.00560944 / 0.00600000 (1644 shares, 9.22192017 BTC), 7D: 0.00520970 / 0.00550083 / 0.00600000 (3875 shares, 21.31571263 BTC), 30D: 0.00510111 / 0.00556457 / 0.00900001 (48129 shares, 267.81696994 BTC)
16:46 benkay ;;calc 48129/300
16:46 gribble 160.43
16:46 benkay lotsa minnows
16:46 mike_c jurov uses bitcoin address signed messages for 2fa
16:46 the20year3 half of the share volume in the past week has been in the past 8 hours since our announcement, if you look at periods prior to that volume, there's almsot none
16:46 benkay tough problem to have
16:47 benkay doesn't really excuse malfeasance.
16:47 CheckDavid Could issuing coins be a good business funding solution?
16:47 the20year3 So, what am I doing that's illegal?
16:47 benkay illegal?
16:47 benkay this is bitcoin.
16:47 benkay there are no rules.
16:47 the20year3 What am I doing that screws shareholders?
16:48 benkay not allowing them to sell at the same price you are.
16:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 124 @ 0.002 = 0.248 BTC [-] {3}
16:48 benkay eyo princessnell
16:49 benkay bring your army?
16:49 the20year3 If enough of our shareholders complain about the choice, i'll change it, ask havelock to change it , or not do the 2nd round, but as of this time, the shareholders I've talked to are fine with it
16:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.05489999 = 0.1647 BTC [+] {2}
16:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14613 @ 0.0009313 = 13.6091 BTC [-]
16:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 4956 @ 0.00180914 = 8.9661 BTC [-] {14}
16:59 cazalla can anyone recommend a reputable site for sporting results that can be used for bitbet outcomes? I'm thinking FIFA.com isn't ideal atm as there as the site will likely change once the world cup starts
17:00 mike_c espn.com?
17:02 cazalla maybe but it's not a win/loss prop, got knocked back first time because clearly need confirmed stats from some source
17:02 mike_c i thought it was that they wouldn't win a game
17:03 mike_c they=australia
17:03 cazalla no, that's not mine
17:03 cazalla concede no goals is mine
17:03 tg2 https://github.com/mandb/vanity_gpg
17:03 mike_c geez, how many futbol bets we got going here :)
17:04 cazalla found a source on fifa.com, it should do
17:04 mike_c http://espnfc.com/round/_/groupId/2/league/fifa.world/seasonType/1/?cc=5901
17:04 ozbot FIFA World Cup Group B Tables & Results - 2014 - ESPN FC
17:04 cazalla http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/standings/index.html
17:04 cazalla GA
17:04 mike_c that looks pretty official to me.
17:05 mike_c (the fifa one)
17:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25700 @ 0.00093337 = 23.9876 BTC [+] {5}
17:07 benkay hey look what princessnell found: http://www.dazeddigital.com/artsandculture/article/19354/1/reddit-says-bitcoin-branded-logo-ecstasy-pills-sold-in-europe
17:07 pankkake tg2: fun. did you check you were not entropy starved for your performance stats?
17:07 tg2 check 'er out
17:07 tg2 that random num spam
17:07 tg2 provides enough entropy to get by
17:07 tg2 but its only as good as perl's rand generator I suppose
17:07 tg2 i should have chosen a random amount of random numbers to generate :)
17:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.04799989 = 0.24 BTC [+] {2}
17:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07288952 = 0.3644 BTC [+]
17:09 pankkake your script is using gpg to generate keys, not perl
17:09 tg2 it is using perl to generate entropy
17:09 tg2 via rand()
17:09 Apocalyptic such entropy
17:09 tg2 so much
17:09 tg2 well i guess i /could/ make it so you had to sit there mashing your keyboard all day :D
17:09 tg2 i'll accept that patch if you want :D
17:10 cazalla mike_c: I don't know who made the Australian bet, any other aussies here that you know of?
17:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 6000 @ 0.00181047 = 10.8628 BTC [+] {6}
17:10 tg2 I will try it on my 48 core system
17:10 tg2 see how many 4096's i can do per second
17:10 tg2 maybe 1-2
17:10 mike_c vague recollection that herbisjustleoids is there, but not sure
17:10 pankkake I don't understand what that rand() is supposed to do
17:10 tg2 it generates 1000 rand numbers, which /should/ be polling /dev/urandom
17:11 tg2 which should be causing it to move seed
17:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.0018 = 1.8 BTC [-]
17:11 tg2 I'll welcome some patches, this was the first perl script i've worked on
17:11 Apocalyptic tg2, you're just exhausting the entropy pool then
17:11 tg2 i tried many things
17:11 Apocalyptic <tg2> which should be causing it to move seed // dafuq
17:11 Apocalyptic seriously you should leave that to gpg
17:11 tg2 none seemed to have an impact and gpg never complaind about lack of entropy
17:11 Apocalyptic you have no idea of what you're doing
17:12 pankkake yué
17:12 pankkake yup
17:12 tg2 if you don't have "Not enough random bytes available. "
17:12 tg2 then you have sufficient entropy for gpg to operate
17:13 tg2 and at 5 keys/s, entropy generation is not the limitation
17:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.60133613 = 9.02 BTC [-] {6}
17:14 pankkake your calls to rand() are either useless or harmful. gpg does its own thing
17:14 benkay hue hue hue hue hue
17:14 Apocalyptic there are harmful
17:14 Apocalyptic you're just depleting the entropy pool for no use
17:15 Apocalyptic so gpg has to wait longer
17:15 pankkake don't know how rand() works, maybe it polls /dev/*random only once and then it's a PRNG
17:16 Apocalyptic maybe
17:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 89 @ 0.00199985 = 0.178 BTC [+] {2}
17:17 pankkake anyway, my question was about /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail - if it's low then fixing *that* will make higher quality gpg keys faster
17:17 mike_c cazalla: it was VanCleef. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-03-2014#586886
17:17 tg2 don't intel chips use hardware source?
17:18 tg2 (not implying that is secure)
17:18 pankkake and as a rule, don't touch crypto stuff you don't understand, you'll shoot yourself in the foot
17:18 tg2 newer xeons use it I think
17:18 pankkake some do, yes, not sure if it's enabled by default
17:18 cazalla mike_c: it's pretty much a given australia won't win a match heh
17:18 deadweasel http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/27/experts-found-that-mt-gox-lost-a-mere-386-bitcoin-due-to-transaction-malleability/
17:18 ozbot Experts Found That Mt.Gox Lost A Mere 386 Bitcoin Due To Transaction Malleability | TechCrunch
17:18 deadweasel look at the picture!
17:18 pankkake or if you need an userspace deamon
17:18 bounce how to consult the public while clearly not listening: http://trade.ec.europa.eu/consultations/index.cfm?consul_id=179
17:19 deadweasel why would anybody consult the public?
17:19 thestringpuller ;;ticker
17:19 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 511.43, Best ask: 512.99, Bid-ask spread: 1.56000, Last trade: 510.17, 24 hour volume: 37872.34545917, 24 hour low: 505.0, 24 hour high: 584.69, 24 hour vwap: 536.173526093
17:19 thestringpuller !ticker m s.mpoe
17:19 assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0009313 / 0.00094053 / 0.00095121 (1204898 shares, 1,133.25 BTC), 7D: 0.00082011 / 0.00093525 / 0.00096 (5510694 shares, 5,153.88 BTC), 30D: 0.000745 / 0.00086117 / 0.00096 (30557131 shares, 26,315.16 BTC)
17:19 tg2 > Found 292 keys so far, running for 10.0s (Rate:29.1/s)
17:20 punkman1 deadweasel: judging by the title, they barely read the paper
17:20 bounce no wonder, since it is about the investor / state dispute settlement ("allow corps to squeeze backward governments") in yet another american trade agreement, this time with europe
17:20 tg2 using rngtools though
17:20 tg2 > /usr/sbin/rngd -r /dev/urandom
17:20 pankkake well then, you *were* entropy starved
17:20 pankkake try haveged, too
17:20 deadweasel punkman1: i didn't read either, i just lol'ed at conjured currency.
17:20 tg2 this is on another system
17:20 tg2 the intel system seems fine without that crutch
17:21 deadweasel oh man, i'm hungry, gonna make some entropy.
17:21 tg2 dat rng
17:21 benkay making some hash today
17:21 deadweasel put some entropy in that shit
17:23 deadweasel benkay, got half a grocery bag of trim here if you want to add it in.
17:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35363 @ 0.0009325 = 32.976 BTC [-] {3}
17:23 Mats_cd03 benkay: ever tried making oil?
17:23 benkay i think i want all those discarded keys tg2's dropping on the floor
17:23 benkay hah you druggies!
17:24 deadweasel it's medicinal
17:24 Mats_cd03 what are drugs?
17:24 benkay i'm talking about salmon hash, corned beef hash, crypto hash
17:24 deadweasel says so here on my doctors rec.
17:24 tg2 4096-bit on a 48 core system: Found 73 keys so far, running for 30.0s (Rate:2.4/s)
17:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15231 @ 0.00093086 = 14.1779 BTC [-] {2}
17:24 benkay i want to put tg2's discarded keys into this hash i'm working on
17:24 tg2 i put them in your /dev/urandom
17:24 tg2 you can just retrieve them from there
17:24 benkay radical dudebro
17:25 tg2 brb moving my mouse around for hours
17:25 benkay hue
17:25 benkay modern computer
17:25 benkay no rng
17:25 tg2 Found 317 keys so far, running for 110.1s (Rate:2.9/s)
17:25 benkay that'd make some nice hash, tg2
17:26 tg2 ~250kh/s
17:26 tg2 on scrypt
17:26 tg2 pretty pathetic
17:26 tg2 but it does as well as an R9 280x on X11 coins
17:26 CheckDavid What do you think about issuing a coin as a way of funding for a business?
17:26 benkay ;;google trilema colored coins
17:26 gribble Why I nixed p2p, colored coins and all that jazz pe Trilema - Un blog ...: <http://trilema.com/why-i-nixed-p2p-colored-coins-and-all-that-jazz>; The dork of the month award. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/the-dork-of-the-month-award>; Women Behind Bars pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/women-behind-bars>
17:27 benkay women behind bars you say?
17:27 CheckDavid benkay: is that related to what I said benkay ?
17:27 Duffer1 CheckDavid it would end in disaster
17:27 CheckDavid Duffer1: why?
17:28 Duffer1 you could visit any alt coin exchange to see the inevitable, and guaranteed, fate of all alt coins that have come before
17:28 Mats_cd03 its kind of like issuing dave and busters tokens
17:28 Mats_cd03 except your business isnt nearly as cool
17:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.00199983 = 0.5999 BTC [+] {7}
17:29 Duffer1 checkdavid that would be like a kickstarter project sending out toilet paper instead of gadgets or equity
17:29 CheckDavid Duffer1: the coins should have some utility for the life of the business
17:29 CheckDavid Or so I think
17:30 pankkake but it's cryptoilet paper!
17:30 CheckDavid Duffer1: sorry of yes. Except it's digital toilet paper
17:31 CheckDavid *certainly
17:32 tg2 https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/CalmTom/crap-away-launching-a-fun-and-truthful-toilet-pape?ref=live
17:32 tg2 lol
17:32 ozbot Crap Away - Launching A Fun & Truthful Toilet Paper Brand by Tom Nardone — Kickstarter
17:32 Duffer1 are you thinking of an alt coin or colored coin?
17:32 tg2 > implying
17:33 CheckDavid Duffer1: not sure about the terms. But I assumed colored
17:33 CheckDavid No alt chains
17:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 440 @ 0.000861 = 0.3788 BTC [-]
17:33 benkay ;;gettrust thestringpuller
17:33 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net. Trust relationship from user benkay to user thestringpuller: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=thestringpuller | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=thestringpuller | Rated since: Mon Oct 15 18:46:37 2012
17:34 Duffer1 checkdavid ah sorry i assumed alt coin, i couldn't say if colored would work or not
17:36 benkay ;;gpg eauth benkay
17:36 gribble Request successful for user benkay, hostmask benkay!~user@c-71-237-213-89.hsd1.or.comcast.net. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/39F274AFBC7ACAC7
17:36 benkay ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:7da124b7be1a63529a28570b4f9af14cb7a3bc1114d6419b8788425f
17:36 benkay
17:36 gribble You are now authenticated for user benkay with key 39F274AFBC7ACAC7
17:36 CheckDavid I would like to distribute equity among the members of my website
17:36 benkay ;;rate thestringpuller 1 not likely to mess your day up
17:36 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user thestringpuller has been recorded.
17:36 thestringpuller interesting...WoT needs more devs
17:37 benkay what needs deving?
17:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11350 @ 0.00093381 = 10.5987 BTC [+]
17:37 benkay it's all php, right up your ======== alley
17:38 benkay HEYO
17:38 thestringpuller https://github.com/nanotube/supybot-bitcoin-marketmonitor/pulls
17:38 thestringpuller there are 8 month old pull request
17:38 thestringpuller s
17:39 thestringpuller CheckDavid: right a gpg contract, pay out divs to a btc address provided by members. not hard :P
17:39 thestringpuller write*
17:39 thestringpuller ugh
17:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 391 @ 0.00199998 = 0.782 BTC [-] {4}
17:40 Duffer1 thestringpuller I believe he's looking for funding, like IPOing with colored coin
17:40 CheckDavid thestringpuller: provided by members? What about when coins are transferred?
17:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 4777 @ 0.001806 = 8.6273 BTC [-] {9}
17:40 thestringpuller you mean equity is transferred?
17:41 CheckDavid thestringpuller: that was e initial idea
17:41 benkay 1 gpg-signed email is all that'd take
17:41 CheckDavid But then I was suggested not to give any equity
17:41 benkay "please send divs previously associated with 1fuckmylife to 1fuckhislife"
17:41 CheckDavid And just award a coin
17:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.05539999 = 0.1108 BTC [+]
17:41 thestringpuller the members can trade equity as they see fit amongst themselves...
17:41 thestringpuller there is no need to have a public offering...
17:42 benkay the public offering is required to get the hype machine going so that the 'ipo' pulls in as many coins as possible
17:42 CheckDavid You saying something unrelated note
17:42 CheckDavid *now
17:42 CheckDavid What are you talking about?
17:42 thestringpuller not at all, you 1) want to pay out profits from your website to members
17:43 thestringpuller to do 1) you do 2) get signed gpg contract from members with btc address
17:43 thestringpuller you do 3) set up bot to pay to addresses
17:43 thestringpuller 4) notify your accountant
17:43 thestringpuller not hard...
17:43 CheckDavid I don't know the format of such a contract
17:44 benkay you get to make it
17:44 benkay how cool!
17:44 thestringpuller ;;google site: trilema.com gpg contracts
17:44 gribble GPG contracts pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2012/gpg-contracts/>; Voluntary contracts, after a while. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/voluntary-contracts-after-a-while>; Some basic discussion of Bitcoin macroeconomy pe Trilema - Un ...: <http://trilema.com/2013/some-basic-discussion-of-bitcoin-macroeconomy/>
17:44 thestringpuller Look there you go.
17:44 CheckDavid But why do you call them members?
17:44 thestringpuller You called them members!
17:44 CheckDavid What about non members that acquire the coin?
17:45 CheckDavid Members are one thing. Then the com can be exchanged off site
17:45 CheckDavid Com = coin
17:45 CheckDavid Damn auto correct
17:45 thestringpuller so then non related person sends you the issuer a gpg signed email from both the original shareholder and themselves signifying an exchange
17:46 thestringpuller you go to your bot
17:46 thestringpuller change address for where shit is paid
17:46 CheckDavid I see.
17:46 thestringpuller move on your way
17:46 thestringpuller ...
17:46 thestringpuller Hasn't this been discussed? benkay am I going crazy?
17:46 CheckDavid I don't think one needs the original shareholder signature
17:46 benkay nigga u insane
17:47 CheckDavid I just need to know who the current owner is
17:47 benkay yes you do, CheckDavid otherwise arbitrary entities can transfer shares arbitrarily.
17:47 benkay well, most recent owner right?
17:47 thestringpuller hey better yet! have them sign the email with a btc address
17:47 benkay no no no no no no
17:47 benkay no signing things with btc addresses
17:47 benkay btc is btc
17:47 benkay gpg is gpg
17:47 benkay twain etc
17:48 CheckDavid Looks hard to push something like this into production
17:48 benkay yeah you should do colored coins instead
17:48 benkay far easier
17:48 Duffer1 is there a colored coin system even out yet?
17:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21100 @ 0.00093042 = 19.6319 BTC [-] {2}
17:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.60000001 = 3 BTC [-]
17:49 thestringpuller Yea there is a prototype I think in this one OT client.
17:49 thestringpuller Open Transactions.
17:50 thestringpuller But it's far easier to trade OTC stuff...you know here...on IRC...over the counter...
17:50 thestringpuller ugh
17:50 thestringpuller I didn't realize how dumb colored coins sounded until very recently...
17:50 thestringpuller People will just end up using it to mark bitcoins during stings on drug deals or trace laundered money.
17:51 mike_c http://www.loper-os.org/?p=988
17:51 ozbot Loper OS » Shitcoin: a Modest Proposal.
17:51 CheckDavid benkay: instead of what?
17:52 thestringpuller you guise
17:52 thestringpuller i want to pay out dividends
17:52 thestringpuller instead of reinvesting the money in better assets
17:53 CheckDavid thestringpuller: is that to me? :)
17:53 CheckDavid A critique?
17:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 261 @ 0.00084201 = 0.2198 BTC [-] {2}
17:54 benkay thing about shitcoin is that one doesn't get to select the coins received
17:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 80 @ 0.006 = 0.48 BTC [+] {2}
17:55 thestringpuller CheckDavid: ThickAsThieves has auto divident paying mechanisms in place. I know several people pay dividends directly to bitcoins. If you're generating a profit and want to distribute it accordingly, you could do so even manually.
17:55 tg2 if it's not 75% premined
17:55 thestringpuller it's not really that hard.
17:55 tg2 its better than half the coins
17:55 thestringpuller directly to bitcoin addresses*
17:56 CheckDavid thestringpuller: I know. But one had to account for the possibility of coins being exchanged
17:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 22 @ 0.00600518 = 0.1321 BTC [+] {2}
17:57 CheckDavid That ads something else to worry about
17:57 benkay CheckDavid: we've explained how to handle that.
17:57 CheckDavid Ok then forget dividends
17:57 CheckDavid What of the coins award no dividends?
17:58 ThickAsThieves <thestringpuller> CheckDavid: ThickAsThieves has auto divident paying mechanisms in place. /// uhh what?
17:58 benkay wat
17:58 CheckDavid How could their value still be correlated with the business performance?
17:58 ThickAsThieves i got no auto nuthin
17:58 benkay CheckDavid: that's the magic of owning shares in a business.
17:58 ThickAsThieves they are dividenDs btw
17:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.00609698 = 0.2805 BTC [-]
17:59 CheckDavid benkay: what exactly is that magic?
17:59 benkay a share represents a slice of a company.
17:59 benkay if that company has value, the share has a slice of the value.
17:59 CheckDavid Yes. But imagine the coins are not tied to equity.
17:59 jborkl I didn't know JohnK did a runner with over 1000 coins?
17:59 benkay why? magic. trust in the issuer.
18:00 CheckDavid Could they still be traded accordingly to the business performance somehow?
18:00 CheckDavid Maybe because they are accepted by the company to pay for the products it provides?
18:01 thestringpuller dude you want to publicly trade the shares of something that has no valuation?
18:01 thestringpuller what is going on.
18:01 jborkl or is that not accurate?
18:01 benkay i stay icy hot
18:01 benkay these crackers bengay.
18:04 BingoBoingo jborkl: Yeah, it's been a thing
18:06 ThickAsThieves http://gawker.com/roughly-02-percent-of-published-researchers-reject-glo-1552277388
18:06 ozbot Roughly .02 Percent of Published Researchers Reject Global Warming
18:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 7 @ 0.10144642 = 0.7101 BTC [-]
18:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.608 BTC [+]
18:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.05539999 = 0.3878 BTC [+]
18:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.04709156 = 0.3296 BTC [-] {4}
18:09 TestingUnoDosTre global warming is distinctly different from human caused global warming, yay or nay?
18:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 118 @ 0.016 = 1.888 BTC [-]
18:10 benkay pumping co2 into the atmo may change the atmo's composition, yea or nay?
18:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26400 @ 0.00093343 = 24.6426 BTC [+] {3}
18:11 CheckDavid thestringpuller: what do you mean by ' I want'?
18:14 TestingUnoDosTre I most definitely agree
18:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7606 @ 0.00093023 = 7.0753 BTC [-]
18:14 TestingUnoDosTre I remember hearing, as a child, that the atmosphere contained more oxygen when the dinosaurs were around
18:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5794 @ 0.00092844 = 5.3794 BTC [-]
18:15 CheckDavid thestringpuller: can reformulate the question?
18:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.07101193 = 0.8521 BTC [-] {3}
18:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18103 @ 0.00093446 = 16.9165 BTC [+] {3}
18:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00207115 = 0.2071 BTC [+] {6}
18:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.0545996 = 0.546 BTC [-] {3}
18:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.00208029 = 0.1456 BTC [+]
18:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.6 = 5.4 BTC [-] {4}
18:34 toffoo last wednesday, first late div in 1 year+ from AM
18:35 toffoo this wednesday, first no div week in 1 year+
18:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5982 BTC [-]
18:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.598 BTC [-]
18:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 514 @ 0.00226827 = 1.1659 BTC [+] {8}
18:36 benkay is it over?
18:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 98 @ 0.00229999 = 0.2254 BTC [+] {2}
18:38 toffoo well, mining on gen1 hardware appears to be over
18:41 BingoBoingo .d
18:41 ozbot 5.007 billion | Next Diff in 1547 blocks | Estimated Change: 9.7941% in 9d 16h 31m 0s
18:42 ThickAsThieves Estimated Next Difficulty:6,034,851,237 (+20.53%)
18:42 tg2 toffoo - what process size?
18:42 toffoo for what?
18:43 tg2 the gen1 mining
18:43 benkay 65 probly?
18:43 tg2 early BFL?
18:44 benkay asicminer taped their own out, right?
18:44 tg2 65nm bfl chips were ~80MH/w
18:44 benkay <-- does not follow mining
18:44 tg2 20nm KNC asics are now 2000MH/w
18:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00204841 = 1.0242 BTC [-] {8}
18:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 684 @ 0.00201072 = 1.3753 BTC [-] {5}
18:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 890 @ 0.0020111 = 1.7899 BTC [+] {2}
18:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0553999 = 0.1108 BTC [+]
18:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 6 @ 0.10144642 = 0.6087 BTC [-]
18:57 xdotcommer How real is this https://twitter.com/CanarslanEren ?
18:58 xdotcommer first tweet
18:58 dexX7 only a prediction/guess
18:59 benkay make a bitbet
18:59 jurov http://news.sciencemag.org/physics/2012/05/return-vacuum-tube
18:59 ozbot Return of the Vacuum Tube | Science/AAAS | News
18:59 jurov 150nm and 450GHz speed estimate
19:01 jurov i realized larger version might fullfill asciilifeform's dream to make crypto-capable microelectronics at home
19:02 TestingUnoDosTre looks like the asks are finally being pulled from stamp :( http://coinorama.net/#
19:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12316 @ 0.0009362 = 11.5302 BTC [+]
19:09 jurov ;;ticker
19:09 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 491.01, Best ask: 491.87, Bid-ask spread: 0.86000, Last trade: 491.87, 24 hour volume: 41831.24132524, 24 hour low: 490.02, 24 hour high: 583.4, 24 hour vwap: 532.77413212
19:09 jurov D:
19:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2038 @ 0.00200963 = 4.0956 BTC [-] {13}
19:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2001 @ 0.00190144 = 3.8048 BTC [-] {6}
19:11 Jackmani_ bitstamp, dafuq?
19:11 TestingUnoDosTre holy shit
19:12 TestingUnoDosTre anyone wathcing this
19:12 TestingUnoDosTre ;;ticker
19:12 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 485.02, Best ask: 486.9, Bid-ask spread: 1.88000, Last trade: 486.9, 24 hour volume: 42532.89415815, 24 hour low: 480.03, 24 hour high: 583.4, 24 hour vwap: 532.77413212
19:12 Duffer1 quite a dump
19:13 thestringpuller ;;ticker
19:13 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 486.75, Best ask: 486.9, Bid-ask spread: 0.15000, Last trade: 486.9, 24 hour volume: 43156.47085889, 24 hour low: 475.0, 24 hour high: 583.4, 24 hour vwap: 531.343020849
19:13 thestringpuller damn
19:13 thestringpuller free fLl
19:13 thestringpuller fall
19:13 Jackmani_ it's so well synchronized between exchanges!
19:14 jurov ;;ticker --market all
19:14 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 480.0, vol: 43253.07140383 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 494.521, vol: 16659.20368 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 483.0, vol: 32456.54064922 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 520.0, vol: 169.04793296 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 482.387854, vol: 13158.04100000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 518.00539, vol: 34.63656625 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 522.082, vol: 257.79703084 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
19:14 qwebirc633214 I'm staking my claim
19:14 only thefuck....
19:14 jurov ;;more
19:14 gribble 483.676105447
19:14 thestringpuller ;;less
19:14 gribble Error: "less" is not a valid command.
19:15 Apocalyptic dat dump
19:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1290 @ 0.00186335 = 2.4037 BTC [-] {12}
19:15 Jackmani_ dumps like a truck
19:16 qwebirc633214 banks probably gonna shut me off
19:16 qwebirc633214 what is ;;more?
19:17 jurov when gribble says (1 more message)
19:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.0009362 = 3.4171 BTC [+]
19:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 902 @ 0.00161463 = 1.4564 BTC [-] {7}
19:19 CheckDavid If a company has no investors Or stock holders nagging for profits, does it have any incentive to declare profits?
19:19 TestingUnoDosTre yay, got my name back
19:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.05360385 = 0.4288 BTC [-] {4}
19:20 Duffer1 checkdavid ask your local regulators :P
19:21 CheckDavid Oh
19:21 CheckDavid Duffer1: what do you know about it in general?
19:21 Duffer1 not enough to give advice beyond my own personal experiences
19:22 TestingUnoDosTre My company is privately owned, and it declares profits to employees
19:22 TestingUnoDosTre and by "my" company, I mean the one I work for
19:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 30 @ 0.05234836 = 1.5705 BTC [-] {17}
19:22 thestringpuller ;;ticker
19:22 CheckDavid Profits to employees?
19:22 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 498.0, Best ask: 498.07, Bid-ask spread: 0.07000, Last trade: 500.0, 24 hour volume: 44397.25189776, 24 hour low: 475.0, 24 hour high: 582.06, 24 hour vwap: 530.155015668
19:22 CheckDavid What does that mean?
19:22 dexX7 bitcoin is dead.. again?
19:23 TestingUnoDosTre this is the opportunity I've been waiting for... all week
19:23 CheckDavid TestingUnoDosTre ...
19:23 TestingUnoDosTre what does what mean
19:23 TestingUnoDosTre they share the company's profits to the employees
19:24 TestingUnoDosTre they meet like every two months and are like, "hey guys, we grossed XX millions of dollars, but were expecting YY millions"
19:24 CheckDavid That's because there is a profit sharing plan right?
19:24 jurov there's a dilberts comics that explains it clearly
19:24 jurov or several
19:24 CheckDavid Well.
19:24 Duffer1 could also just be for moral or team building hr bullshit
19:25 TestingUnoDosTre They give bonuses that are related to the profits, if that's what you call a "profit sharing" plan
19:25 Duffer1 we're all building this together kinda nonsense
19:25 CheckDavid But is that considered a cost to the company or is it real taxable profits?
19:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1110 @ 0.00155 = 1.7205 BTC [-]
19:25 CheckDavid Ahhhh
19:25 CheckDavid Bonuses
19:25 CheckDavid Performance bonuses
19:25 CheckDavid Right?
19:25 TestingUnoDosTre Sure
19:26 TestingUnoDosTre but it's only a function of company performance and personal salary
19:26 CheckDavid I think that's different
19:26 TestingUnoDosTre not your own personal performance
19:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9534 @ 0.0009362 = 8.9257 BTC [+]
19:26 CheckDavid Because then the company declares those 'profits' as costs
19:26 CheckDavid So they ate
19:26 CheckDavid *are
19:27 CheckDavid Never real profits
19:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.595 = 1.19 BTC [-] {2}
19:27 CheckDavid So my question stands.
19:28 CheckDavid Is there ever an incentive to def
19:28 CheckDavid *declare profits?
19:29 TestingUnoDosTre sure but at least they have a history of declaration
19:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 392 @ 0.0017006 = 0.6666 BTC [+] {6}
19:30 TestingUnoDosTre somebody needs to close this... I've got a very minor stake involved http://bitbet.us/bet/793/bitcoin-to-drop-under-500-before-may/
19:30 CheckDavid But those profits are not taxed as normal profits
19:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 97 @ 0.00193713 = 0.1879 BTC [+] {3}
19:31 dexX7 TestingUnoDosTre: don't worry. if you won, you won.
19:31 TestingUnoDosTre I'm not worried, I'm just scroogin'
19:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.590001 = 1.77 BTC [-]
19:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.59 = 1.77 BTC [-]
19:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.58842001 = 2.3537 BTC [-] {2}
19:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.00199999 = 0.15 BTC [-]
19:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 62 @ 0.00584193 = 0.3622 BTC [-] {2}
19:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 3300 @ 0.00008482 = 0.2799 BTC [-] {6}
19:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 54 @ 0.005741 = 0.31 BTC [-] {4}
19:43 dexX7 /ignore assbot
19:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.002 = 0.2 BTC [+]
19:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0021 = 0.21 BTC [+] {2}
19:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 63 @ 0.002 = 0.126 BTC [-] {5}
19:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 120 @ 0.00214124 = 0.2569 BTC [+] {5}
19:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.00092844 = 1.1141 BTC [-]
19:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11844 @ 0.00093393 = 11.0615 BTC [+] {2}
19:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 304 @ 0.00218017 = 0.6628 BTC [+] {7}
19:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.58822668 = 1.7647 BTC [-]
19:54 moiety jesus bitcoin e's now? nice encouragement of dogepills too - "Wow. So drugs. Very fucked." wtf
19:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 398 @ 0.00219167 = 0.8723 BTC [+] {4}
19:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07287978 = 0.1458 BTC [+]
19:58 kakobrekla Array
19:58 kakobrekla (
19:58 kakobrekla [mircea_popescu] => 11586
19:58 kakobrekla [assbot] => 7024
19:58 kakobrekla [ThickAsThieves] => 3558
19:58 kakobrekla [asciilifeform] => 3306
19:58 kakobrekla [benkay] => 2682
19:59 kakobrekla lines in 30 days. mp outspams assbot.
20:00 mike_c i'm oddly fascinated. full list?
20:01 mike_c 80 lines a day, not bad benkay.
20:03 dexX7 haha awesome and kinda unexpected
20:03 kakobrekla http://dpaste.com/1760293/plain/
20:03 mike_c 400 lines a day, plus trilema. and people think he has sock puppets too. more likely there are 3 people typing as mp :)
20:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 325 @ 0.00239999 = 0.78 BTC [+] {2}
20:04 kakobrekla this is last 30 days
20:04 mike_c aww, not even top 20.
20:05 mike_c who knew ascii talked so much?
20:05 joecool lawl
20:07 pankkake mp copies and pastes a lot
20:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4950 @ 0.00093403 = 4.6234 BTC [+]
20:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.00238499 = 0.7155 BTC [-] {2}
20:12 tg2 http://i.imgur.com/dYDrQPg.png
20:12 tg2 can has entropy
20:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07287978 = 0.1458 BTC [+]
20:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 367 @ 0.0024112 = 0.8849 BTC [+] {4}
20:18 Apocalyptic tg2, wait
20:18 Apocalyptic you're using /dev/urandom as a source of entropy ?
20:19 Apocalyptic given /dev/urandom is already using /dev/random as one
20:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 450 @ 0.00242963 = 1.0933 BTC [+] {2}
20:19 pankkake rngd feeds /dev/random with /dev/urandom basically
20:19 tg2 Rngd uses more entropy points
20:19 Apocalyptic am I the only one who finds that utterly wrong ?
20:19 Apocalyptic it's like an entropy feedback loop
20:19 tg2 And fills it into urandom
20:20 Apocalyptic The -r or --rng-device options can be used to select an alternate source of input
20:20 pankkake it's not that simple but yes you really should use better sources
20:20 tg2 ofc
20:20 Apocalyptic <tg2> Rngd uses more entropy points // not in your case
20:20 pankkake try haveged as I said earlier
20:20 kakobrekla http://dpaste.com/1760322/plain/
20:21 tg2 Pankkake thx I'll check it out
20:21 kakobrekla mike_c you get top10 on some days :)
20:21 pankkake http://pisg.sourceforge.net/ btw
20:21 ozbot pisg - Perl IRC Statistics Generator :: Home
20:22 mike_c slow and steady gets you somewhere hopefully
20:22 kakobrekla pankkake but my logs are nonstandard
20:23 kakobrekla i would have to fiddle with it anyway.
20:24 tg2 Probably trivial to build a definition
20:24 pankkake the lazyest version would probably be to output the logs to a recognized format
20:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.00242994 = 0.2187 BTC [-] {2}
20:41 tg2 http://www.androidauthority.com/dogecoin-mining-android-apps-362142/
20:41 ozbot Researches find Android apps that covertly mine Dogecoin, one of them with more than a million downl
20:41 tg2 :)
20:41 benkay what, asciilifeform generates more -assets lines than me?
20:41 benkay psh.
20:42 benkay ninjashogun lol
20:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0478 = 0.1434 BTC [+] {2}
20:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17450 @ 0.00093361 = 16.2915 BTC [-]
20:48 tg2 Not even using gpus, what is this amateur hour?
20:56 MisterE morning
20:56 MisterE BTC in the shitter, LTC on the operating table but it;s spring in Crimea :)
20:56 pankkake meanwhile ATC up 50%
20:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10279 @ 0.00093391 = 9.5997 BTC [+]
20:56 MisterE lol realy
20:57 MisterE wow
20:57 MisterE much profits
20:58 Apocalyptic dat ATC pump
20:58 moiety lolol kakobrekla mine isn't as bad as i thought it would be in that lines list XD
20:59 kakobrekla yea not bad
20:59 moiety asciilifeform: did you see MOTD? someone on reddit did it after i posted to photoshopbattles lol
20:59 MisterE " Russian Bear Rising - After swallowing Crimea, Putin’s emboldened regime looks for more prey "
21:00 MisterE ^ wow, such FUD
21:01 Apocalyptic MisterE, what's that headline ?
21:01 MisterE yea
21:01 MisterE http://www.front-lines.com/2014/03/russian-bear-rising-after-swallowing.html
21:01 ozbot front lines: Russian Bear Rising - After swallowing Crimea, Putin’s emboldened regime looks for mo
21:02 davout !t m x.eur
21:02 assbot [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.0025 / 0.0025 / 0.0025 (432 shares, 1.08 BTC), 7D: 0.0025 / 0.0025 / 0.0025 (432 shares, 1.08 BTC), 30D: 0.0019005 / 0.00214608 / 0.0025 (3831 shares, 8.22 BTC)
21:05 moiety anyone seesn these? http://metro.co.uk/2014/03/27/can-you-crack-these-mysterious-codes-found-at-a-canadian-university-4680361/?ITO=facebook
21:14 tg2 Ikea commercial
21:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 250 @ 0.00244489 = 0.6112 BTC [+]
21:17 Apocalyptic moiety, $100 reward ? seriously ?
21:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 190 @ 0.00244489 = 0.4645 BTC [+]
21:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00093347 = 9.428 BTC [-] {2}
21:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 784 @ 0.00244489 = 1.9168 BTC [+] {3}
21:18 moiety Apocalyptic: sounds even wors here >> £54.16 lol
21:19 moiety it will be a shopping list in hoax form
~ 17 minutes ~
21:37 BingoBoingo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av-biQ6rhqE
21:37 ozbot Very angry kitty at the Zoo. - YouTube
21:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16200 @ 0.00093259 = 15.108 BTC [-]
21:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12585 @ 0.00093391 = 11.7533 BTC [+]
21:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 173 @ 0.00230371 = 0.3985 BTC [-] {6}
21:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 19 @ 0.00600002 = 0.114 BTC [-]
21:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 94 @ 0.00231029 = 0.2172 BTC [+] {3}
22:01 MisterE those the lions they killed?
22:01 MisterE that zoo should rename itself The Butchery
22:01 MisterE srsly though they were following good practice
22:02 MisterE just americans hide that stuff behind closed doors
22:03 PANIC_SELL_NOW price dropping like a rock, bitcoin banned in china
22:04 copumpkin FUD-spreader
22:04 PANIC_SELL_NOW no point in denying the truth, bitcoin is banned in china, the chinese brought us from $250 to $1000. and we'll go right back down to $250
22:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20245 @ 0.0009317 = 18.8623 BTC [-] {2}
22:06 MisterE not even legit FUD
22:07 MisterE http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-27/pboc-orders-banks-to-shut-bitcoin-exchange-accounts-caixin-says.html
22:07 ozbot Bitcoin Prices Plunge on Report PBOC Orders Accounts Shut - Bloomberg
22:07 Apocalyptic $250 is fine for me
22:08 MisterE at 250 I'll take cash from the CCs
22:08 MisterE to buy in
22:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00093391 = 6.8642 BTC [+]
22:11 noCHINA did MPEX ever end up giving the SEC satoshidice info?
22:12 tg2 Not likely
22:12 BingoBoingo No
22:13 tg2 We're the investors in satdice even linked to anything materially? Wasn't it all crypto?
22:13 Duffer1 there may be an ongoing discussion we're not aware of though
22:13 noCHINA back under $500.... down we go
22:13 benkay webchat lol
22:13 benkay who are you, noCHINA ?
22:14 tg2 Gpg up heathen
22:14 noCHINA no CHINA allowed.
22:14 Duffer1 tg2 i believe they're just interested in vorhees, not necessarily investors
22:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1760 @ 0.00093119 = 1.6389 BTC [-]
22:14 noCHINA no bitcoin in CHINA allowed
22:14 Apocalyptic cool story bro
22:14 noCHINA i lost 50 BTC today on bitfinex because of china. so no china allowed from now on
22:15 Apocalyptic bitfinex is scam, you know that
22:15 tg2 0x31FAA963C3333333.sec.gpg
22:15 kakobrekla who the fuck are all these kids
22:15 tg2 Can you migrate wot identity to a new key if you sign it with the old?
22:15 Apocalyptic tg2, you can
22:15 Duffer1 just set a new key ya
22:15 benkay tg2: for a technical dude you sure don't in2 research
22:16 tg2 Yah cause I built wot
22:16 tg2 I'm a big proponent you know
22:16 benkay kinda irrelevant
22:16 tg2 Check my rating
22:17 Mats_cd03 have you two been trolling each other for hours
22:17 tg2 No I was actually working today
22:17 benkay ditto
22:17 MisterE tg2: you're never going to register with gpg and you know it :p
22:17 Duffer1 ;;gpg info tg2
22:17 gribble User 'tg2', with keyid 4BCCE0D63E7F049F, fingerprint 54D7E1FD9B9319BE3939878B4BCCE0D63E7F049F, and bitcoin address None, registered on Thu Mar 27 03:33:09 2014, last authed on Thu Mar 27 03:33:09 2014. http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=tg2 . Currently authenticated from hostmask tg2!~tg2@205.204.66.35 .
22:18 MisterE whoa
22:18 * MisterE stands corrected
22:18 benkay anyone running a pool on how long it takes tg2 to get rated by someone we know?
22:18 tg2 Put it on bitbet
22:18 tg2 I'll bet against it
22:18 benkay badbet doesn't work
22:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00093032 = 6.8379 BTC [-]
22:19 benkay mpoe over 90k all of a sudden
22:19 benkay ;;ticker
22:19 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 494.55, Best ask: 497.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.45000, Last trade: 497.0, 24 hour volume: 54285.48238278, 24 hour low: 466.1, 24 hour high: 571.5, 24 hour vwap: 520.280688897
22:19 benkay funny how that works
22:20 Duffer1 are options trading again?
22:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25569 @ 0.00093003 = 23.7799 BTC [-] {2}
22:21 tg2 Dem fireworks
22:21 tg2 one fud article about China
22:21 tg2 btc on sale
22:21 Duffer1 ;;gpg eauth Duffer1
22:21 gribble Request successful for user Duffer1, hostmask Duffer1!~chatzilla@c-98-232-231-188.hsd1.or.comcast.net. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/D5B0A00741A54A60
22:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25917 @ 0.00093069 = 24.1207 BTC [+] {2}
22:22 Duffer1 ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:ff6180ec615df6b5ca3a3db746b31eab308de699c0a301f6b3bf22ef
22:22 gribble You are now authenticated for user Duffer1 with key D5B0A00741A54A60
22:22 Duffer1 "This user has not authenticated for more than 104 days. If you are currently talking to someone who claims to be this person, you are probably talking to an impostor and scammer." hehe
22:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00093391 = 6.3506 BTC [+]
22:26 tg2 I rekon I could get a key id with 10 characters the same
22:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00230673 = 1.1534 BTC [-] {5}
22:32 MisterE LAWL: fiat vs. fiat: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/business/walmart-sues-visa-for-5-billion-for-rigging-card-fees/articleshow/32822191.cms
22:33 MisterE http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-26780821
22:33 ozbot BBC News - Wal-Mart sues Visa for fixing price of credit card fees
22:33 Duffer1 i don't see why they even need to sue
22:34 Duffer1 they could simply stop accepting visa
22:35 mircea_popescu Duffer1 because they want to make money.
22:37 MisterE not accepting visa would be a death sentence for most retailers
22:37 MisterE its what enables debit cards to work
22:37 MisterE for those without credit
22:37 mircea_popescu not so.
22:37 mircea_popescu ae worked on exclusive deals with many retailers for ages.
22:37 mircea_popescu mc tried something similar with much less success about once a decade since the 80s
22:37 kakobrekla anyway, for now
22:38 kakobrekla http://stats.bitcoin-assets.com
22:38 kakobrekla this is what you get.
22:38 kakobrekla nothing shocking
22:39 MisterE but if you dont have a credit card and only a bank account with a debit card the visa system is what allows you to use it to make purchases
22:39 MisterE and thats how 90% of America shops
22:40 MisterE that or credit
22:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20925 @ 0.00093408 = 19.5456 BTC [+] {3}
22:40 BingoBoingo http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2014/03/what-is-bitcoin/
22:40 ozbot The Fierce Battle for the Soul of Bitcoin | Wired Enterprise | Wired.com
22:41 asciilifeform with obligatory 3d coins.
22:41 mircea_popescu MisterE perhaps 90% of statistics are made up on the spot.
22:42 chetty http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-03/26/biometrics-the-good-and-bad
22:42 ozbot Get ready to have your biometrics tracked 24/7 (Wired UK)
22:42 MisterE maybe that was but it's the vast majority
22:42 MisterE everyone shops int he US with plastic
22:44 mircea_popescu plastic != visa electron prepaid "i'm poor" cards.
22:44 MisterE these aren't prepaid electron cards
22:44 MisterE these are bank issued debit cards with the visa logo
22:45 MisterE that makes them able to be used for purchases at most major retailers
22:45 mircea_popescu o look at that, wired article about "the soul of bitcoin", in terms of "two schmucks no one heard of or cares about"
22:46 mircea_popescu Mats_cd03 you gonna apply for that eurasia job ? :D
22:46 MisterE also it is your bank ATM card
22:46 MisterE don't you have an equivalent in Europe?
22:47 MisterE hell even backwards Thailand has it
22:47 mircea_popescu _aeon loud who ?
22:48 mircea_popescu TestingUnoDosTre subkeys you generate off a main key aren't more anonymous than the main key.
22:53 MisterE use of credit and debit cards, that use the visa network, for shopping is prolific in the US and any retailer who didn't accept them would be suicide. <- Are you arguing against that statement mircea_popescu ?
22:53 mircea_popescu yes.
22:53 MisterE on what basis?
22:53 mircea_popescu i'm even arguing against your counting ability, that's about five statements right there.
22:53 chetty MisterE, people just dont use plastic much here
22:54 MisterE where is here? I'm talking about the US
22:54 MisterE here in Thailand it's much less as well.
22:54 mircea_popescu http://www.forbes.com/sites/tjmccue/2013/08/16/why-dont-more-small-businesses-accept-credit-cards/
22:54 ozbot Why Don't More Small Businesses Accept Credit Cards - Forbes
22:54 noCHINA orderbook thinning out... 1000 BTC moves price $40 now
22:54 Duffer1 what would happen to retailers if the debit card ceased to exist?
22:54 mircea_popescu "Credit and debit cards are nearly as common as cash. "
22:54 mircea_popescu nearly as common means, of course, NOT AS COMMON.
22:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24300 @ 0.00093265 = 22.6634 BTC [-] {2}
22:54 mircea_popescu "But data from Intuit shows that 55 percent of the nation’s 27 million small businesses do not accept credit cards."
22:55 mircea_popescu 55% means, of course, a majority.
22:55 MisterE we're not talkign about small retailers / mom & pop restaurants
22:55 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
22:55 mircea_popescu and credit cards does not mean "visa"
22:55 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 528.97, vol: 54883.57384786 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 523.999, vol: 24612.3518 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 530.0, vol: 48075.95147316 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 539.4, vol: 302.41934332 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 505.82175, vol: 12461.19300000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 538.28324, vol: 45.71503217 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 529.143997251, vol: 355.19673065 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message)
22:55 BingoBoingo ;;more
22:55 gribble average: 526.428775509
22:55 MisterE wallmart was the example
22:55 noCHINA Visa should just drop teh minimum per-swipe charge and go straight %. they'd make more
22:55 mircea_popescu credit cards means american express, visa and mastercard, in that order.
22:55 noCHINA walmart suing VISA for $5 billion
22:55 mircea_popescu of which total visa is maybe 20%
22:55 MisterE yes at mom & pop stores where you spend $10 you pay cash
22:55 asciilifeform 'debit' card, at least the u.s. variety, has considerably weaker legal fraud protections than the 'credit' card.
22:55 MisterE when you go to a supermarket and stock up for the week you use a card
22:56 mircea_popescu MisterE unless you're one of the govt poor using the govt's own plastic, which is neither visa nor mc etc.
22:56 mircea_popescu so in general : i understand you're living your own life. you'll have to understand your own life is irrelevant.
22:56 mircea_popescu the market is a larger thing.
22:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.0009347 = 12.7119 BTC [+]
22:57 MisterE you're making assumptions that I;m extrapolating what I do to others
22:57 mircea_popescu "<MisterE> we're not talkign about small retailers" / "<MisterE> and any retailer who didn't accept them would be suicide"
22:57 MisterE I've lived out of the US for 8-years but even before I left cash usage at large retailers was hard to find
22:57 mircea_popescu no, i'm just telling you you're being an idiot.
22:57 mircea_popescu stop it, read what you're saying before i do.
22:58 asciilifeform might be a geographic thing
22:58 MisterE yes any large retailer who told you you can't pay your $100 bull with plastic would be done
22:58 mircea_popescu and you know this on the basis of because what.
22:58 MisterE because of personal experience, obbviously you have nbot spent much time shopping in rural america at the likes of WlaMart and safeway
22:58 mircea_popescu right.
22:58 mircea_popescu the place for this sort of nonsense is reddit.
22:59 MisterE I'm not sure if your forbes includes debit cards
22:59 MisterE ok it does
23:01 mircea_popescu noCHINA yeah was a link earlier.
23:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07002031 = 0.2101 BTC [-]
23:03 MisterE I have to admit I'm *very* surprised by the stats in the forbes article
23:05 mircea_popescu they're not even right, they overstate plastic acceptance.
23:06 noCHINA just when you thought bad news was finished for bitcoin -- there is more
23:06 noCHINA china ban, then gox crash, then china ban #2, then IRS,
23:06 noCHINA its like the good news doesn't factor in at all
23:07 TestingUnoDosTre it's like bad news doesn't factor at all
23:07 TestingUnoDosTre and it's more like someone who wanted/needed to get rid of coins
23:07 TestingUnoDosTre seriously. China ban news was released, and bitcoin held at 580
23:07 MisterE yea this last dump, if you can even call it that, was manipulation for sure
23:08 noCHINA TestingUnoDosTre: 50,000 BTC sold today-- thats on china news
23:08 noCHINA its not a co-incidence
23:08 TestingUnoDosTre that's baloney
23:08 tg2 That's convenient that 50k were sold and none bought :')
23:08 BingoBoingo Why is a Canadian so worried about China anyways
23:10 TestingUnoDosTre I don't care how many btc were sold today. China news was basically the same shit that was said before, and it was released like 12 hours or more before the MINI crash
23:10 MisterE still MP that is 55% of small businesses. when I said not taking visa would be a death sentence I was talking about large retailers like Walmart or Safeway. I'm sure CC acceptance and usage is much higher there and it would be a death sentence for them.
23:11 noCHINA there is no such thing as 'manipulation' -- there are only bids and asks ... they're either filled or not
23:11 MisterE I cant google up just what % of purchases at large retailers are made with cc
23:13 TestingUnoDosTre I never said manipulation. I agree with your statement. Where I disagree is when you claimed that this had to do with some news that was released.
23:14 mircea_popescu noCHINA it's rare that news actually has any sort of impact on bitcoin prices. people generally like to see patters, but i've seen hundreds of such claims and they were never right.
23:15 noCHINA patterns are nonsense -- its individual whales who move markets, not some lines on a chart
23:15 MisterE they might have leaked a rumor before starting to dump
23:15 noCHINA TestingUnoDosTre: large whales who want to cash out see 'bad china news' and decide to do it quickly
23:15 MisterE then pulled back to scoop up after a drop, thats manipulation
23:16 mircea_popescu MisterE if any large retailer decides to stop taking a card it's more like a death sentence to the card than to the retailer.
23:16 kow what kind of whales, like blue whales?
23:16 mircea_popescu people won't drive an extra gallon of gas just to use random plasic bit X
23:16 kow or fin whales?
23:16 TestingUnoDosTre lol
23:16 noCHINA no its not -- thats just the free market operating... its up to the stupid public to decide if a rumor is real or not before panic selling
23:16 kow the humpback whale
23:16 TestingUnoDosTre I've been buying all day, and loved it
23:16 TestingUnoDosTre hope it crashes again tomorrow
23:16 noCHINA if insider trading was legal we'd have much more transparent markets
23:17 noCHINA prices would reflect true value at all times
23:17 TestingUnoDosTre don't quote me on that
23:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28500 @ 0.00093604 = 26.6771 BTC [+] {4}
23:18 TestingUnoDosTre what ridiculousness
23:18 TestingUnoDosTre what type of insider trading do you think occurred
23:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 185 @ 0.00227755 = 0.4213 BTC [-] {6}
23:19 chetty https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bjx6dT8CEAAPi6K.jpg
23:19 mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/CRXqxpK.gif
23:20 TestingUnoDosTre squeeze bacon and lovable dogs? wtf
23:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 675 @ 0.00220088 = 1.4856 BTC [-] {2}
23:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10737 @ 0.00093101 = 9.9963 BTC [-] {2}
23:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 151 @ 0.00217 = 0.3277 BTC [-] {2}
23:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 19 @ 0.0060016 = 0.114 BTC [+]
23:29 BingoBoingo http://deadspin.com/76ers-lose-26-consecutive-games-are-impressively-dedic-1553379598
23:29 ozbot 76ers Lose 26 Straight Games, Are Impressively Dedicated To Sucking
23:29 noCHINA is that squeeze bacon shit real?
23:29 noCHINA looks insanely awesome in a not awesome way
23:33 moiety BingoBoingo: that one (youtube link) just totally wanted to rip the camera person's face off didnt it?! i think they are known to scalp people
23:33 BingoBoingo Yeah
23:34 moiety i thought i sensed cute, that gif is epic mircea_popescu
23:34 mircea_popescu :D
23:35 moiety MisterE: re the lions, i looked into it because i hadn't heard about it: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26356099
23:35 moiety the dogs head is begger than the whole pup!
23:35 moiety bigger*
23:35 MisterE yea nothing irregular about it
23:36 moiety its awful D:
23:37 moiety i have an animal realted story i cant read because im too scraed to scroll, is there an add on that removes pics? like adblock/flashblock?
23:37 moiety lets try that again shall we? : i have an animal related story i cant read because im too scared to scroll, is there an add on that removes pics? like adblock/flashblock?
23:40 chetty http://fox59.com/2014/03/26/family-claims-hacker-taking-control-of-cable-box-sending-threatening-messages/#ixzz2xA6VAuAf
23:40 ozbot Family claims hacker taking control of cable box, sending threats | Fox 59 News – fox59.com
23:40 MisterE well we're breeding animals in captivity better now so have "surplus"
23:47 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo http://trilema.com/2014/vanitas/
23:52 mircea_popescu the20year3 businesses where the big barrier to entry is capital actually are very poor businesses (in that surpluss capacity can be and usually is created on the spot - or in other words, because they have no moats). buffett expounds on this in his 1983 letter if memory serves.
23:53 mircea_popescu CheckDavid what start-ups specifically.
23:54 mircea_popescu uh i c.
23:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11554 @ 0.00093672 = 10.8229 BTC [+] {2}
23:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.5901 = 1.1802 BTC [+] {2}
23:55 mircea_popescu ;;later tell benkay lmao nice find.
23:55 gribble The operation succeeded.
23:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 85 @ 0.00604755 = 0.514 BTC [+] {2}
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