Show Idle (>14 d.) Chans
← 2014-01-27 | 2014-01-29 → ↓
00:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 157 @ 0.00082566 = 0.1296 BTC [-]
00:07 ThickAsThieves ozbot was shrem!
00:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.04899999 = 0.392 BTC [-] {2}
00:23 Mats_cd03 .bait
00:24 ozbot http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4d3hgsw231r6630fo1_500.jpg
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00:46 herbijudlestoids http://bigstory.ap.org/article/scientists-find-ancient-plague-dna-teeth
00:46 ozbot Scientists find ancient plague DNA in teeth
00:46 herbijudlestoids if it goes airborne it can kill in 24h?
00:46 herbijudlestoids never breathing again
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01:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.435 = 1.74 BTC [-]
01:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16053 @ 0.00088385 = 14.1884 BTC [-]
01:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.4078675 = 2.8551 BTC [-] {4}
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01:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.405 = 0.81 BTC [-] {2}
01:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 23 @ 0.02799938 = 0.644 BTC [-] {3}
01:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00088354 = 13.6949 BTC [-]
01:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 27 @ 0.00404993 = 0.1093 BTC [+]
01:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02889998 = 0.289 BTC [+] {2}
02:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.42 BTC [+]
02:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.425 BTC [+]
02:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.004345 = 0.2173 BTC [+]
02:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 5 @ 0.04899895 = 0.245 BTC [+] {2}
02:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 68 @ 0.00404992 = 0.2754 BTC [-] {2}
02:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00088362 = 10.6918 BTC [+]
02:10 KRS1 ;;seen Vexual
02:10 gribble Vexual was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 15 hours, 18 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <Vexual> my axe
02:12 herbijudlestoids hullo
02:14 Duffer1 http://money.cnn.com/2014/01/27/technology/security/bitcoin-arrest/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
02:14 ozbot Bitcoin exchange CEO arrested for money laundering - Jan. 27, 2014
02:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44050 @ 0.00088217 = 38.8596 BTC [-] {3}
02:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00088362 = 20.8534 BTC [+]
02:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.42499999 = 0.85 BTC [-] {2}
02:40 Mats_cd03 how do i mitigate credit card fraud
02:42 Mats_cd03 lets say i own a shoe store and people with domestic billing information but an overseas shipping address keep ordering products and sometimes triggering chargebacks
02:43 Duffer1 accept bitcoins only
02:44 Mats_cd03 besides that
02:44 Mats_cd03 i already knew that
02:45 Mats_cd03 .bait
02:45 ozbot http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1020li18O1rp8c9ao1_500.jpg
02:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48600 @ 0.00088382 = 42.9537 BTC [+] {2}
02:52 KRS1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfi8fT9oHkQ
02:52 ozbot giggity giggity, giggity goo - YouTube
02:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04810001 = 0.2405 BTC [-]
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03:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04810001 = 0.2405 BTC [-]
03:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 106 @ 0.00286585 = 0.3038 BTC [-] {2}
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04:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18050 @ 0.00088297 = 15.9376 BTC [-]
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04:50 dub http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5Mgsdz2kDI lel
04:50 ozbot Ripple and Bitcoin on NBC TV Show The Blacklist - YouTube
04:57 BingoBoingo dub: I'm kind of disappointed they killed Skinny Pete so soon.
05:06 davout ;;seen mjr_
05:06 gribble mjr_ was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 12 hours, 53 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: <mjr_> the dirty dollars
05:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 810 @ 0.00083033 = 0.6726 BTC [-] {3}
05:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.0285 = 0.285 BTC [-]
05:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.028 = 0.196 BTC [-]
05:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 12 @ 0.02700166 = 0.324 BTC [-] {3}
05:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51450 @ 0.00088416 = 45.49 BTC [+] {4}
05:19 KRS1 Hoooo weee
05:19 KRS1 .bait
05:19 ozbot http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2xaqndNMz1qz7ltxo1_500.jpg
05:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 125 @ 0.02500096 = 3.1251 BTC [-] {6}
05:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24000 @ 0.00088595 = 21.2628 BTC [+] {2}
05:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 369 @ 0.00274046 = 1.0112 BTC [-] {5}
05:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 87 @ 0.00274004 = 0.2384 BTC [-] {5}
05:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 355 @ 0.00273002 = 0.9692 BTC [-] {2}
05:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 142 @ 0.002702 = 0.3837 BTC [-] {2}
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06:35 herbijudlestoids ssshhh
06:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23100 @ 0.00088748 = 20.5008 BTC [+] {3}
06:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.00428439 = 0.12 BTC [-] {2}
06:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.42499999 BTC [-]
06:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.04808333 = 0.2885 BTC [-] {3}
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07:18 KRS1 .bait
07:18 ozbot http://24.media.tumblr.com/e2858265501fc27105071ae6a17c86f9/tumblr_mi0su4yhhU1rbgn4zo1_500.jpg
07:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG.F2] 1 @ 0.55 BTC [-]
07:34 KRS1 anyone still think big market correction/capitulation is coming soon before the next few months drag out?
07:36 Duffer1 that can be an easy thing to know depending on what expected announcements are incoming
07:37 Duffer1 if there's expected good news is that news so good it could outway bad news, what bad news could overcome the good?
07:37 Duffer1 outweigh
07:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.425 = 0.85 BTC [+]
07:50 mircea_popescu sooo, what's new
07:53 truffles the cold
07:53 mircea_popescu http://25.media.tumblr.com/a6503b6c7eaa20dab7a449c9b37be416/tumblr_mjwnxhHILc1ru15g3o1_1280.jpg
07:53 mircea_popescu there, morning birdbath.
07:54 truffles wow
07:54 truffles thats scary
07:57 deadweasel ;;ticker
07:57 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 950.0, Best ask: 957.788, Bid-ask spread: 7.78800, Last trade: 959.69, 24 hour volume: 13457.69665170, 24 hour low: 912.02001, 24 hour high: 997.25, 24 hour vwap: 948.83378
07:57 mircea_popescu you're not a woman till you've showered on the lawn.
07:57 truffles http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/beautiful-singer-posing-traditional-costume-romanian-f-young-folklore-32741888.jpg do most of the women still wear these`
07:58 mircea_popescu most of the women never wore those. that's like sunday garb, it varies a lot by locale and in general only a rich girl could afford a really elaborate version.
07:59 truffles i think its cool, i see this woman wearing something really long and flowing all the time
07:59 truffles prob should cut it since it drags on floor heh
08:00 mircea_popescu in general women sew their own stuff, starting about 12ish till they got married. if they were really hot they married by 15 or so, in which case they didn't have the time or the skill to do it. if they were poor they'd have actual labour cut into that "leisure" so equally they had no time.
08:00 truffles married at 12 no pedo?
08:01 mircea_popescu no reading comprehension anymore ?
08:01 truffles :D
08:01 truffles ppl make a fuss about that today just saying
08:02 mircea_popescu romanian women still marry ~16 if they feel like it.
08:02 mircea_popescu british chicks too, for that matter.
08:02 truffles terrrible
08:03 mircea_popescu nah. the way the body works, a woman that is going to have children should deliver her first before 18.
08:03 truffles orly
08:03 mircea_popescu yea.
08:03 truffles times have changed
08:04 mircea_popescu use it or lose it. it has nothing to do with "times", biology is biology.
08:04 truffles i think it should be 25 or later
08:04 mircea_popescu times'd be well advised to adapt to it, cause it ain't happening the other way around.
08:04 truffles we r living longer though
08:04 mircea_popescu makes no difference. the body works a certain way, and that way is based on function.
08:05 truffles how about the male
08:06 truffles id say 30
08:07 mircea_popescu the male's pretty immune, biologically. you can father just fine aged 75
08:07 truffles we're looking at it from diff pov btw, im suggesting best age for the times, ur offering optimal biological time
08:07 mircea_popescu well yes. i'm not interested in a discussion of "time", as you're not qualified to carry it.
08:08 truffles haha
08:08 truffles u r?
08:08 mircea_popescu yes.
08:08 truffles how so
08:09 mircea_popescu well, you speak one language, i speak a dozen. you've lived in one country, i've lived in lots. you're part of one culture, which is remarkable exactly for it's very stylisized relation to reality. i'm part of at least half a dozen different cultural spaces.
08:09 truffles ha
08:09 mircea_popescu in short, you're not nearly enough of a whore to discuss mating habits.
08:09 truffles def not a whore
08:09 mircea_popescu so there you go.
08:09 truffles but i can have some experience on the matter even if i spoke only 1 language
08:10 mircea_popescu so you'd think.
08:10 truffles u may not value that opinion but it exists
08:10 mircea_popescu you need dialectics to understand anything, or to form an opinion at all. absent the faculty of comparison, you're not forming an opinion, you're merely parroting an ideology.
08:10 truffles its interesting u speak many langauges
08:10 truffles french?
08:10 mircea_popescu there are much better sources for your particular ideology, such as for instance you know, the people making it.
08:11 mircea_popescu yes.
08:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [+]
08:11 truffles i guess i wont be as harsh on u with ur grammar now :D
08:12 mircea_popescu your delusions of gramar are a constant source of amusement, by all means, insist.
08:12 truffles i agree with ur point on comparison somewhat
08:12 mircea_popescu truffles and a rake.
08:13 truffles a logical person can reach near the comparative level necessary for discourse imo
08:15 truffles i wonder about the level of fluency in those other languages
08:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.41000002 BTC [-]
08:16 davout "your delusions of gramar" << :3
08:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 510 @ 0.00289243 = 1.4751 BTC [+] {6}
08:16 truffles i missed that lol
08:19 truffles i also wonder if just learning a new language makes u an expert in a culture
08:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1200 @ 0.00008482 = 0.1018 BTC [+] {4}
08:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.00289999 = 0.1305 BTC [+] {3}
08:21 chetty no, it doesn't truffles. but its a decent starting point.
08:21 punkman is there a pill that will make me cultured?
08:22 truffles hehe
08:22 davout no, but I have a pill that will make you rich, it'll be 1 BTC sir
08:22 mircea_popescu California's World Famous Cultureburgers.
08:22 mircea_popescu With Experience Soda free for any order of two or more!
08:23 mircea_popescu davout you should ipo that.
08:23 davout you already did
08:24 mircea_popescu o wait
08:24 punkman mircea_popescu: how do you keep all those languages working, imported cunts?
08:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 24 @ 0.0043998 = 0.1056 BTC [+]
08:24 mircea_popescu just being very whorish.
08:24 punkman I've already unlearned two languages by not using them
08:24 truffles pfff
08:24 truffles im doubtful
08:24 mircea_popescu people don't respect whores enough. the whore has the ability to not believe in anything. this is valuable.
08:25 davout punkman: watch some tv, it does help to refresh
08:25 mircea_popescu as long as your brains thinks there's a correct language to have and extras as modules to it, it keeps forgetting them
08:25 mircea_popescu once your brains no longer has a reference language it will keep all, or at least enough functional constructs to be able to rapidly recover.
08:26 davout true
08:27 truffles proof of claim?
08:27 mircea_popescu you're confused as to what a claim is truffles.
08:27 truffles that highhorse
08:28 mircea_popescu that high horse is a) legitimately high ; b) much higher in fact than your myopia allows you to see.
08:28 truffles im pretty open fyi
08:28 mircea_popescu but at any rate : if you ask some guy how did he find the steak and he says "stringy", you have no space to ask for proof of claim.
08:28 mircea_popescu he didn't make a claim.
08:29 truffles these arent standard things
08:30 truffles i could just start posting things to refute u but that highhorse
08:30 mircea_popescu a very smart judge once said, in response to the gov't claim that "this is a standard deal" that there is no such thing as a "standard" deal.
08:31 mircea_popescu there isn't, nor are there "standard things". stop stereotyping, it's the mental process of the very stupid.
08:31 truffles fine, i shall start refuting u, when im of mood
08:31 mircea_popescu or when you grow up, whichever comes first.
08:31 mircea_popescu aw fuck.
08:31 mircea_popescu "or when you are of age, whichever comes first."
08:32 mircea_popescu assbot pls to delete teh other line from the permanent record :D
08:33 truffles ure of the type that feels theyre never wrong, i will try to shatter that :D
08:33 mircea_popescu mno silly, that's your stereotype you use to internally represent your intellectual superiors.
08:33 mircea_popescu which is why i made the myopia comment afore.
08:33 truffles ok
08:33 truffles touche
08:34 davout ;;popcorn
08:34 gribble Error: "popcorn" is not a valid command.
08:34 punkman .bait
08:34 ozbot http://31.media.tumblr.com/c8a7862e7662173cbb9c7186050bc371/tumblr_mx510oTnQe1qdz7nho1_400.gif
08:34 BingoBoingo ;;lasers
08:34 gribble ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
08:38 truffles surprising ppl r awake
08:38 truffles oh wait bitcoin :D
08:38 truffles ppl = america
08:39 chetty Its a big world with lots of time zones
08:39 punkman ppl != america
08:39 truffles well we'd have to do room poll
08:39 punkman no it's a fact, no people left in murica
08:41 BingoBoingo punkman: There are some, but it is increasingly rare.
08:41 punkman BingoBoingo: sorry, I didn't mean to exclude you
08:43 BingoBoingo punkman: No offense taken. I could go to any number of Walmarts and by the end of the venture feel very inclined to exclude myself from a proper category of people
08:43 chetty and therein is the problem truffles, the viewport is too small
08:43 truffles zing
08:45 truffles ppl who never speak in room dont count
08:45 truffles id wager is higher on the muricans who speak, even if there is a romanian cluster that is silent
08:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 400 @ 0.00045003 = 0.18 BTC [-] {2}
08:46 BingoBoingo truffles: Just because you can't arse yourself to remember or infer the nationalities of conversation participants, doesn't make your assumptions correct.
08:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30307 @ 0.00088744 = 26.8956 BTC [-]
08:48 truffles room poll!
08:49 BingoBoingo truffles: This exactly wrong approach of read less and "room poll!" is what makes you such an easy target
08:50 truffles how do u prove either way without something of the sort
08:50 BingoBoingo truffles: There are chan logs in the topic. A decent number of people have mentioned nationalities since the web log of this channel began
08:51 truffles so u know them all?
08:51 BingoBoingo Also truffles when you just spontaneously throw something out there like "room poll" people might poison your sample.
08:52 BingoBoingo truffles: Not all, but knowing all is a step to far.
08:52 truffles we want scientific polls in here only
08:52 davout BingoBoingo: "poison your sample" << that sounds dirty
08:52 BingoBoingo davout: Only in all of the ways
08:52 davout also for some weird reason, "room poll!" sounds like "pillow fight!"
08:53 BingoBoingo truffles: I dunno that you have the ability to do a "scientific poll"
08:53 davout BingoBoingo: :-D
08:53 truffles we're all part of earth guys, dont worry about it
08:54 BingoBoingo I dunno truffles You never know which early adopter might already have traded their BTC for a Moonbase or perhaps a portion of the ISS
08:54 asciilifeform http://cryptome.org/2014/01/parastoo-sti.htm
08:54 asciilifeform could somebody spare a circus monkey to work at langley?
08:55 asciilifeform they need new talent
08:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.080005 = 0.16 BTC [-] {2}
08:55 asciilifeform and a new keyboard, where 'capslock' isn't glued down
08:57 BingoBoingo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQdDRrcAOjA
08:57 ozbot Clerks - Death Star Contractors - YouTube
09:00 truffles tis too bad ure not into timed games Boingo
09:02 BingoBoingo truffles: I will play chess with sane time controls, but the time controls you enjoy offer a game other than chess.
09:03 truffles 5 min or less sure, 10 is reasonable
09:03 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/inflation-deflation-economic-regulation/
09:03 ozbot Inflation, deflation, economic regulation. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
09:03 mircea_popescu i'll call this writing seminal strictly for the benefit of the double entendre.
09:13 lippoper what do you think about the Winklevii cashing out 75% of their BTC?
09:14 mircea_popescu they never mattered, but had previously trouble coming to terms with this fact.
09:14 mircea_popescu good for them that that particular psychological issue they had has somehow found resolution meanwhile.
09:15 lippoper they made a killing if anything
09:15 lippoper They still kept 25%, i bet that was maybe less than half of their net profit?
09:16 mircea_popescu this'd depend on your definition of "a killing" and on the faith you put in the numbers advanced by well known liars.
09:16 mircea_popescu the point here isn't that we believe what they say. the point here is that what they say is less nutty than it was afore.
09:16 jurov http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp9XLqF-oQw
09:16 ozbot Faithless - Music Matters - YouTube
09:17 lippoper true
09:17 lippoper if they did what they said, then they'd walk away with over 10,000% profit in USD
09:17 mircea_popescu sure.
09:18 jurov what happened to their fund?
09:18 lippoper they claim they sold 75% of it
09:18 jurov o, they sold bitcoins to the fund?
09:18 mircea_popescu jurov you remember, the twinklevii, those people who kept buying btc back when it was 10. lots of it.
09:18 mircea_popescu somehow none of us active at the time heard or felt this, but they did it.
09:18 jurov yes, that's why im asking about the bigger picture
09:19 lippoper wait for it, next thing we know, they are the fabled satoshi - creator of the btc
09:19 jurov so they started the fund, inserted btc, pulled usd out?
09:19 lippoper lol
09:19 mircea_popescu lippoper fortunately satoshi isn't know, or else hed get sued for having stolen some wrestler's ideas
09:19 mircea_popescu or w/e they are i forget. was it wrestlers ?
09:20 lippoper bahaha
09:20 jurov kayakers
09:20 jurov heh
09:20 mircea_popescu a ok.
09:20 lippoper kayakers
09:20 lippoper Professional kayakers
09:20 mircea_popescu sounds like the exact people i'd have my wealth managed by, personally.
09:20 lippoper They're just rowers
09:20 lippoper but from one of the richest families
09:20 mircea_popescu i'm sure about as many people made the same choice as the legions that sold them btc back when i was buying all there was on sale and never ran into them
09:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.04500011 = 1.125 BTC [-] {2}
09:22 asciilifeform when do we get the mega-fund run by circus acrobats? sumo wrestlers?
09:24 mircea_popescu i;m kind-of dissapoint that nobody has come up with some sort of forum-"financial" product centered around a monkey
09:24 mircea_popescu like you know, the old parrot-fortune-picking thing carnies/gypsies did in the old soviet space
09:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 247 @ 0.00404992 = 1.0003 BTC [+] {5}
09:24 mircea_popescu it could ipo just fine.
09:25 jurov dragon's tale has a monkey game
09:25 jurov but yes, raising funds for implementing the Infinite Monkey Protocol would be worthwhile
09:26 jurov unlike bitcon it already has a RFC spec
09:26 jurov http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2795.txt
09:28 jurov mpex.co/?mpsic=S.RFC2795
09:28 jurov :D
09:28 asciilifeform S.MNKY
09:29 asciilifeform 'always mount a scratch monkey'
09:29 asciilifeform http://edp.org/monkey.htm
09:42 KRS1 can't believe we're about to see all time high btc market price real soon
09:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00088744 = 3.6385 BTC [-]
09:48 mircea_popescu there, added.
09:50 mircea_popescu and obviously facebook is a standards-noncompliant, half baked, buggy implementation of half of rfc2795.
09:50 mircea_popescu because that's what the web 2.0 is all about.
09:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15300 @ 0.00088544 = 13.5472 BTC [-] {2}
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10:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 580 @ 0.00085941 = 0.4985 BTC [+] {7}
10:23 TomServo .d
10:23 ozbot 2193847870.17428 | Next Diff in 1353 blocks | Estimated Change: 12.8181% in 8d 4h 34m 3s
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10:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.426 BTC [+]
10:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4945 @ 0.00009015 = 0.4458 BTC [+] {4}
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11:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.045 = 0.405 BTC [-]
11:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8250 @ 0.00088551 = 7.3055 BTC [+]
11:15 mircea_popescu In its latest review of social developments, the European Commission has said finding a job increasingly has not pulled people out of economic hardship. It said poverty among people with jobs was a major problem.
11:15 mircea_popescu herp. "30% of kids aren't employed. this perhaps has something to do with the fact that even if they were it wouldn't help them ?!?!?:!"
11:17 lippoper i got a boner from making ~12k doges while it's falling in price, day trading is exciting. .bait
11:17 lippoper .bait
11:17 ozbot http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5pmpru3IB1qesi8lo1_1280.jpg
11:19 lippoper nice kim kardashian bait
11:19 lippoper .bait
11:19 ozbot http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5rutdUcpV1r0d395o1_1280.jpg
11:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37437 @ 0.00088766 = 33.2313 BTC [+] {2}
11:21 mircea_popescu http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-fundamental-flaw-in-crypto-currencies-that-will-soon-make-them-all-worthless-competing-crypto-currencies/
11:21 ozbot The Fundamental Flaw in Crypto Currencies that Will Soon Make them All Worthless – Competing Crypt
11:22 mircea_popescu noobs discover bitcoin, imagine th eworld starts and ends with their trufflebrain, make articles to tell the world.
11:22 Jere_Jones "trufflebrain" lol
11:24 lippoper Mircea, wtf? lol!
11:24 lippoper from the article:
11:24 lippoper "The only thing holding back precious metals right now is the fact that the USA can print money, buy gold in London anonymously, sell it at a loss, print more money to cover the loss, and repeat as required to drive the price down to whatever it wants. This is only possible because Gold is vastly undervalued so it does not take many dollars to be able to engage in this kind of manipulation"
11:26 mircea_popescu lippoper it's just funny, on the interwebs everyone has "opinions"
11:27 kakobrekla thats just your opinion.
11:27 twizt true dat
11:27 lippoper lulz
11:27 mircea_popescu mhm.
11:31 kakobrekla >Edit: The Avalon chips that were purchased using FIMB funds are now sitting in a box, because they arrived so late it was not worth it to assemble them. I did not have the option to refund. Regardless, FIMB holders will be reimbursed.
11:31 kakobrekla lolk, do want to see that.
11:32 jurov they will get chips mailed :D
11:32 kakobrekla selling asic gear best biz ever. take monies, ship when you can, if you cant, use water bottles.
11:33 kakobrekla >I have made some strategic relationships over the weekend and I will be able to make things right with all involved. Not another day will pass with any of my bitcoin affairs being neglected, you can be sure of that.
11:33 kakobrekla lmao, a whole weekend worth of relationship.
11:34 kakobrekla >I too agree that in order for Cognitive to be wildly successful like it once was more people need to come on board on the management front, preferably shareholders, because we all have a vested interest in the company succeeding as opposed to contracted workers.
11:34 kakobrekla "i cant do shit really, just wanna be the ceo, is dat ok?"
11:34 mircea_popescu lol
11:35 jurov ain't no fury like affair scorned
11:35 mircea_popescu is this the 17yo who figures he's a player on the strength of also having a keyboard
11:35 mircea_popescu just like everyone else ?
11:35 kakobrekla reassured with > Second, we need to find members willing to help this recovery process. People for PR, for research (which includes new hardware, new tech, and pricing on existing tech).
11:36 kakobrekla -As always, I love to hear constructive input of all sorts. It is my goal to make Cognitive the highly desirable asset it once was.
11:36 kakobrekla hihi
11:36 kakobrekla ah thank you garr, you didnt let me down
11:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00286999 = 0.1004 BTC [-]
11:36 mircea_popescu the only way cognitive was a "desirable" asset was when the herpitude of the multitude was still fresh.
11:36 mircea_popescu there's no recanning that can of worms.
11:37 kakobrekla we shall see
11:37 mike_c sure there is. rename it to cognitive V2.0
11:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 9 @ 0.08 = 0.72 BTC [-]
11:37 mircea_popescu mike_c the only way cognitive can become the whatever, is if it moves to dogecoins and it pretends that's the "world"
11:38 mike_c that would also work.
11:38 mircea_popescu which is actually the service all these failed attempts provide bitcoin : they shed all the idiots off us. thanks god.
11:38 mircea_popescu by the time a bitcoin is over 10k it'll be almost breathable in the "community"
11:39 asciilifeform nah, we'll see all the same idiot scams, with the decimal point moved a few places.
11:41 mircea_popescu nah.
11:41 mircea_popescu that'd be missing a fundamental ingredient in the psychology of the scammer.
11:41 mircea_popescu if he were modest, like your model describes, he'd be an employee.
11:42 pankkake altcoins with low value per unit still seem to have a power of attraction
11:42 mircea_popescu scammers are dreamers.
11:42 mircea_popescu not all dreamers are scammers (tho in general, if poorly managed or self managed, they do tend to realise that potential)
11:42 kakobrekla http://images0.zurnal24.si/slika-_original-1390922536-1002935.jpg
11:42 mircea_popescu however, all scammers are dreamers.
11:42 ThickAsThieves Us is evaluating making a "bit license"
11:42 ThickAsThieves US*
11:42 ThickAsThieves http://www.totalwebcasting.com/view/?id=nysdfs
11:43 ThickAsThieves live feed
11:43 ozbot Department of Financial Services
11:43 KRS1 i'm watching.
11:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.43 BTC [+]
11:44 mircea_popescu make a summary when you get bored.
11:45 kakobrekla what is vinkleloss brotherhood doing there
11:45 ThickAsThieves winkelvii in attendance
11:45 asciilifeform http://cryptome.org/2014/01/nsa-smartphones-analysis.pdf
11:45 kakobrekla first.
11:45 ThickAsThieves they are getting worn in
11:45 ThickAsThieves lol
11:45 asciilifeform all the 'censor blobs' are transparent.
11:45 ThickAsThieves sworn*
11:45 asciilifeform highlight, copy, paste.
11:45 kakobrekla didnt they sell all their btc
11:45 kakobrekla they should be on LTC panel
11:45 ThickAsThieves hehe
11:45 mircea_popescu this is how they could afford the entrance fee :D
11:46 mircea_popescu asciilifeform anything good ?
11:46 asciilifeform nope. the usual crap
11:46 ThickAsThieves Second Market now commenting
11:46 asciilifeform author's name, and a little snippet of code
11:46 ThickAsThieves so far it's a NIT pitch
11:46 ThickAsThieves BIT*
11:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.00082566 = 0.1651 BTC [-]
11:46 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves srsly, a blow by blow of some irrelevant proceeding in some 3rd world pesthole is a bit much.
11:47 mircea_popescu just a summary at the end, perhaps one of the two "we decided we'r too stupid to get mixed up usefully" "we're unaware we're too stupid and will mix ourselves into it"
11:47 ThickAsThieves beggars, choosers oh well
11:47 mircea_popescu hey, my 2 bitcents!
11:48 mircea_popescu one day they'll be a fortune.
11:51 mircea_popescu https://twitter.com/Namecheap/status/428158030015107072 << cannonical exercise in "but i'm too stupid to know just how stupid i am!"
11:51 ozbot Twitter / Namecheap: @Mircea_Popescu LOL, they're ...
11:53 kakobrekla whats the issue anyway
11:54 ThickAsThieves too much CSS
11:54 kakobrekla dat niga just said slovenia in the somalia tone
11:54 kakobrekla fuck you.
11:54 ThickAsThieves lol
11:54 Apocalyptic heh
11:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.00289998 = 0.261 BTC [+]
11:56 ThickAsThieves it's gonna take the full two hours just for opening statements...
11:56 mircea_popescu kakobrekla ppl bein raceist.
11:56 kakobrekla yea!
11:59 Azelphur mircea_popescu: rofl :P
11:59 Azelphur I admit I laughed a little at namecheaps new edsign
11:59 Azelphur design*
12:01 punkman so I went to buy some allegedly local truffles, dude tried to pass me chinese bootleg truffles
12:01 mircea_popescu no you don't understand. it's good and i don't have "actionable" whatever. it's just like yahoo which is doing great!
12:01 punkman so disappointed
12:01 mircea_popescu fuckwits on a stick.
12:01 mircea_popescu learn something from me, ye future owners of this world, if you learn anything at all :
12:01 mircea_popescu never, ever, under any circumstances allow random "specialist" fuckwits to speak for your venture.
12:02 Apocalyptic sounds like a good advice
12:02 mircea_popescu in any venue, under any circumstances, ever. if you can't control the communication shut it off.
12:02 deadweasel ^
12:02 deadweasel even accountants!
12:02 mircea_popescu nobody may speak for the thing other than the owner, or the manager.
12:02 ThickAsThieves amen
12:02 ThickAsThieves well
12:03 Apocalyptic <mircea_popescu> nobody may speak for the thing other than the owner, or the manager. // or the pr-girl ?
12:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [MS] 93 @ 0.005 = 0.465 BTC
12:03 ThickAsThieves i think not always good for manager/owner to be talking
12:03 mircea_popescu Apocalyptic if you control her.
12:03 Apocalyptic indeed
12:03 punkman mircea_popescu: contrast with companies having mandatory "social" time during work hours
12:03 deadweasel excellent post, btw, mp.
12:03 ThickAsThieves but your message must maintain it's integrity
12:03 ThickAsThieves somehow
12:03 punkman (for all employees)
12:03 ThickAsThieves its
12:03 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves it's great. let the world adapt it's sensitive ears to the roar of commercial and industrial reality.
12:03 mircea_popescu don't do it the other way lest you perish like the us perished.
12:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.43 BTC [+]
12:04 mircea_popescu o i mean, the us is doing great, just like yahoo, what do i know.
12:04 deadweasel perish*ing*, no? if we are speaking of the apple in the bag and the present moment, we have no perished.
12:04 deadweasel not*
12:04 mircea_popescu yeah. and if we don't ?
12:04 deadweasel but we are rotting from the inside out, indeed.
12:05 deadweasel blight is starting to appear to the average shmo. he is starting to get angry here.
12:05 mircea_popescu you know the thing with present moments... they're but moments, fleetingly present. the car going too fast is still, for a brief moment, on the road.
12:06 deadweasel if he looks any deeper (i realize thsi is a long shot), he may see the rotten core and start the long task of expelling his american demons.
12:06 deadweasel i mean, it's not IMpossible.
12:06 mircea_popescu deadweasel if you wish an optimist angle on it, you could say "well great, finally a chance to become a nation"
12:06 deadweasel pretty much
12:06 mircea_popescu like you know, suppose you lose your job, and that means you'll lose the house
12:07 mircea_popescu which you know... you kinda dread telling to the incredibly hot knockout that somehow accepted to marry you
12:07 mircea_popescu you don't even know how.
12:07 mircea_popescu and she goes... "well great, we'll be abjectly poor and finally have a chance to be a family"
12:08 deadweasel yup, that's classic conditioning though, one of the demons that needs exercising. marriage promotion.
12:08 mircea_popescu yes yes. meanwhile it's convenient symbology
12:08 kakobrekla lol, "so what do you think about regulation of btc?", "needs no change, works as it should, you just busted shrem ya know."
12:08 deadweasel i still sometimes believe fi I get a wife and pop a couple kids out, and manage to keep them fed that I've done my 'part'. it's a farce of course.
12:09 deadweasel but ti's there in the brain.
12:09 mircea_popescu your part of what ? cake ?
12:10 mircea_popescu kakobrekla that case will be interesting, too, if the kid somehow finds the resources to not sign a plea bargain.
12:10 mircea_popescu it can end up costing the president half his approval rating pretty much.
12:10 KRS1 http://tinyurl.com/9cmqf2r
12:10 mircea_popescu (yea, that's like three points, what can i say)
12:10 deadweasel exactly, more conditioning. I'm saying I'm aware of my own conditioning, to a degree, thank god. but my 'part' would be my perceived 'value' to my 'family' 'nation' etc. We have all sorts of beliefs warping our minds.
12:11 mircea_popescu myeah.
12:11 deadweasel to even name them all would be moot, it's just sickness.
12:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.045 = 0.99 BTC [-] {2}
12:31 ThickAsThieves why isnt there a dominant independent AML provider?
12:32 kakobrekla TERRORIST FUNDING
12:32 mircea_popescu that's a good q, actually.
12:33 mircea_popescu and why is that provider not a govt agency paid for by the govt out of taxes, as it should be ?
12:33 mircea_popescu o wait, an answer appears. because this way the costs of governance could be imposed upon business directly, bypassing the tax controls of congress.
12:33 ThickAsThieves could not PayPal or Facebook do this?
12:34 mircea_popescu the cleverness of the us politicos is so very refined it's just about on par with the cleverness of the entire check and card system.
12:34 nubbins` deadweasel, popping out kids is essentially pushing a reset switch. if you haven't yet done what you feel you need to do with your life, it's too soon :D
12:34 mircea_popescu not internet worthy, but hey.
12:34 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves how would facebook do it ?!
12:34 ThickAsThieves how would anyone?
12:34 nubbins` facebook knows more about me than my bank does
12:34 nubbins` just sayin
12:35 mircea_popescu nubbins` only if you don't lie.
12:35 nubbins` to fb or the bank?
12:35 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves well you need a number of that rare beast, the risk assesment officer.
12:36 nubbins` i'm pleading canada's equivalent of the fifth amendment on this one
12:36 mircea_popescu there's about 1% of the needed troop of those available, and that was pre-aml.
12:36 mircea_popescu by now there's no hope.
12:36 nubbins` while simultaneously wondering if canada even has a similar thing
12:37 kakobrekla shutup vinkle, next.
12:37 ThickAsThieves the US does however find the time to allow citizens to pay them to do a background check so they can fly without taking their shoes off
12:37 nubbins` hahaha, this ^
12:37 mircea_popescu yes, because on that score their determinations are unfalsyfiable.
12:37 nubbins` "it's for security, unless you have $50"
12:37 mircea_popescu if x schmuck deals dope can be established factually.
12:37 mircea_popescu if y schmuck is a "threat to security" could not.
12:38 ThickAsThieves because anyone with a bad background would apply
12:38 mircea_popescu even should y blow up a plane, condolezza rice v2.0 will happily swear before congress "nobody could hve foreseen"
12:39 ThickAsThieves another funny abomination of flying is when they announce the different boarding groups
12:39 ThickAsThieves Members of the Platinum, Gold, Ruby, and Mega Preferred may now board!
12:40 nubbins` those with small children or the infirm!
12:40 nubbins` jeez, fake a limp and carry a cane and you'll get on first.
12:40 ThickAsThieves they literally announced about 10 different classes of people
12:40 ThickAsThieves just to board...
12:40 nubbins` bring a friend who fakes tourette's and you'll get on first
12:40 nubbins` etc
12:41 ThickAsThieves ha he's saying auth with Facebook is an answer!
12:41 nubbins` there was a story a while ago about a guy using facebook for his identification to get on a plane
12:41 ThickAsThieves 'compliance at scale'
12:41 deadweasel nubbins`: it's always too soon for me to pop out kids, until it isn't. fortunately I've found my calling and I'm wrecking shop on it, currently.
12:42 nubbins` i'm honestly too selfish for it
12:42 ThickAsThieves there shoulda been a bitbet whether someone says "HSBC" during these sessions
12:43 mircea_popescu indeed.
12:44 mircea_popescu give winklebois a chance to make their 75% back
12:44 mircea_popescu til "Kyriarchy". i like this word. i think i shall use it.
12:44 kakobrekla all these fuckin methapores
12:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 27 @ 0.00442433 = 0.1195 BTC [+] {6}
12:44 kakobrekla cant just just say it normally
12:44 kakobrekla just = they
12:45 mircea_popescu kakobrekla how ?
12:45 kakobrekla what how
12:45 deadweasel what is the normal word for kyriachry?
12:45 kakobrekla im commenting the live stream
12:46 kakobrekla OMG
12:46 kakobrekla dont bring 9.11 into this shit now
12:46 mircea_popescu i had no idea there was one.
12:46 kakobrekla DEAD BABIES
12:46 kakobrekla BITCOIN
12:46 Apocalyptic 9.11 again
12:46 deadweasel kakobrekla:, link?
12:46 ThickAsThieves sigh
12:46 Apocalyptic http://www.totalwebcasting.com/view/?id=nysdfs
12:46 ozbot Department of Financial Services
12:46 deadweasel thx Apocalyptic
12:46 kakobrekla http://www.totalwebcasting.com/view/?id=nysdfs
12:46 ozbot Department of Financial Services
12:46 kakobrekla YOU MUST HAVE A LICENSE OR ELSE YOU CRASH PLANE IN BUILDING
12:46 mircea_popescu lol i like how into it kako gets
12:47 ThickAsThieves ha now he's talking about flight pre check!
12:47 Apocalyptic kako's on fire
12:47 Apocalyptic who's the guy speaking atm btw ?
12:47 ThickAsThieves there's a chat in this
12:47 ThickAsThieves ?
12:47 mircea_popescu wat we should do for the future is have bets on which panelist will show himself be dumbest.
12:48 punkman mircea_popescu: that's an awful word
12:48 ThickAsThieves how do you score if your brother does all the talking?
12:49 mircea_popescu punkman "that" ?
12:49 punkman Kyriarchy
12:49 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves for the purpose of this bet all people are male and all twins etc are one person.
12:50 mircea_popescu punkman why exactly ? kyriarchy, the natural, normal, good and healthy mode of society, which a bunch of failures are claiming to be "critiquing" and "oposing" because it';s cheaper than fixing the steaming pile of shit they personally are
12:50 mircea_popescu seems like a grand word to me.
12:50 jurov then the dumbmness adds or multiplies?
12:50 deadweasel oh wow, this is good, thanks kakobrekla
12:50 jurov for twins, i mean
12:50 deadweasel good - entertaining at least
12:50 mircea_popescu jurov shit you got me.
12:51 punkman mircea_popescu: it offends my aesthetics in some way, like when americans try to make up greek sounding words
12:51 mircea_popescu it is kinda broken in greek
12:51 punkman it's a homophone of κυρίαρχοι, which means sovereign/overlord
12:51 mircea_popescu which explains why nobody used it up until some illiterate woman decided smashing random "respectable" and "priviledged" bits together will make her drivel more... respectable and priviledged
12:52 jurov The word itself is a neologism coined by Elisabeth Schüssler Fiorenza to describe interconnected, interacting, and self-extending systems of domination and submission, in which a single individual might be oppressed in some relationships and privileged in others.
12:52 jurov sez wikipedia
12:52 mircea_popescu the fact that her drivel is nominally about how bad privilege and the respect it engenders is only adds to the humor.
12:52 mircea_popescu this is roughly matching the luce irigaray levels of idiocy, so. i'm happy.
12:53 nubbins` reminds me of arduino
12:54 nubbins` apparently all the knock-offs, netduino, miniduino, etc sound HORRIBLE in italian
12:54 mircea_popescu they do yea
12:54 punkman they don't sound good in English either
12:54 punkman can't even come up with a fucking name
12:54 nubbins` well once you start making your portmanteaus cross the language barrier, all hope is lost
12:55 mircea_popescu too much shit to name.
12:56 nubbins` the solution is to have fewer things
12:56 nubbins` newspeak had it figured out
12:56 mircea_popescu consider all the people that apparently are in some capacity part of the usg, and somehow (at least in their own mind) decision factors in various capacities.
12:56 punkman random numbers and letters is the solution, obviously
12:56 nubbins` yeah
12:56 mircea_popescu aren't you shocked they manage to allocate names for all these ?
12:56 nubbins` just reference each item by a GUID
12:56 mircea_popescu srsly.
12:56 mircea_popescu "bureaucrat345987643985 ty for your leadership. nao speaking bureaucrat345987643456"
12:56 nubbins` completes the analogy that everyone is just a number
12:57 nubbins` mircea_popescu, essentially a birth certificate is a rudimentary DNS system in this regard
12:57 punkman maybe our kids' names will be valid BTC addresses
12:57 mircea_popescu sort-of
12:57 nubbins` who can remember bureaucrat345987643985? much easier to type john smith
12:57 nubbins` altho far too many name collisions for my liking
12:57 mircea_popescu nubbins` why even bother, mt_rand that shit
12:57 nubbins` haha
12:57 mircea_popescu just address them randomly.
12:57 kakobrekla DR EVIL
12:58 kakobrekla 1 ZILLION DOLLARS
12:58 nubbins` consider that i don't have what i'd consider a common name, but a google search turns up at least half a dozen people with it
12:58 mircea_popescu actually, speaking of propaganda of th edeed : making a point of addressing all bureaucrats as a random name picked from the pool of bureaucrats.
12:58 nubbins` hahahahahahaha
12:58 mircea_popescu they wish to give their humanity away, fine, take it from them then.
12:58 nubbins` actually amazing
12:58 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
12:58 nubbins` "director of fincen dick cheney"
12:59 nubbins` although TBF dicky should just be referred to as "he who cannot be named"
12:59 mircea_popescu who'd know the difference ?
12:59 mircea_popescu prolly not even the wife.
12:59 nubbins` he's essentially a hybrid of the penguin and voldemort
12:59 nubbins` certainly not the man he shot in the face with a gun
12:59 mircea_popescu actually, with obamacare maybe they can get facial reconstructive surgery on the dole.
12:59 mircea_popescu make them all look alike too.
12:59 nubbins` due to a mix-up, they're all given snowden's face
12:59 nubbins` ah, the lels
12:59 mircea_popescu ahahahaha
13:00 nubbins` "turns out i still can't move home"
13:06 pankkake "I suggest we do an auto ban for 3 months for people with 50 ignores or more."
13:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 501 @ 0.00082555 = 0.4136 BTC [-] {2}
13:07 ThickAsThieves decentralized bans!
13:07 pankkake colored bans
13:08 ThickAsThieves lol
13:08 mircea_popescu lol
13:08 mircea_popescu "i suggest we just ban btc off btctalk and anyone who is sane. then we can finally be alt-happy and alt-successful"
13:09 ThickAsThieves which is actually what the forum is getting really good at
13:09 mircea_popescu so mazel tov.
13:09 pankkake interestingly the top ignores have both very sane people and very retarded people
13:10 mircea_popescu i think this is a known property of free systems
13:10 nubbins` hm
13:10 nubbins` auto-ban for 50 ignores
13:10 nubbins` that's just a backhanded way of getting mpoe-pr banned
13:10 ThickAsThieves winkelvii says the core developers will save us from the hoarders if needed
13:10 nubbins` how will they do that?
13:10 pankkake that leaves the forum for the mediocre
13:10 nubbins` also, s/hoarders/savers
13:10 nubbins` funny, that
13:11 ThickAsThieves yknow mpoe-pr may be the last finger hanging onto the cliff for the forum
13:11 nubbins` introduce a system where saving money makes sense, and it gets villified
13:11 mircea_popescu nubbins` it's funny tho, they don't have the balls to say so, lest she calls their mommy fat.
13:11 ThickAsThieves i know i have no fight left in me for that place
13:11 pankkake crazy world where saving to plan for the future is bad
13:12 pankkake my generation saves nothing… not that they can
13:12 mircea_popescu and yes. winklevii are lieing to the usg, on the grounds of scammy promises people who make a habit out of lieing about their dev status made.
13:12 mircea_popescu this is exactly how bitcoin rapes fiat, incidentally.
13:13 nubbins` pankkake, i call bullshit on the "not that they can"
13:13 pankkake well, it depends. some have the income to save
13:14 pankkake but really the older generations had lower cost of living and less taxes; it's harder
13:14 nubbins` they were also more prudent with their money, fwiw
13:16 mircea_popescu and with their vote.
13:16 nubbins` well, i mean. speaking in generalities here
13:16 mircea_popescu not like i forced them to vote socialist.
13:16 mircea_popescu let them vote the guy who says "taxes go away, the french state defaults on all its obligations. that's it"
13:16 pankkake well there is certainly a (wrong) belief of the young that they'll always have an income and a place to get stuff
13:17 mircea_popescu then they'll have plenty of money to save.
13:17 pankkake (and by stuff I mean food - at least)
13:18 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=435263.msg4795901#msg4795901
13:18 ozbot Personal responsibility and inept Bitcoin jesusing
13:19 gecko_x2 hey mp, i read on hackernews about your kind donation to the BSD project.. just wanted to say cheers, good going :D
13:19 nubbins` well ya know. you default on your obligations and the world still turns
13:19 nubbins` i ask with all seriousness, why would anyone care?
13:20 mircea_popescu gecko_x2 ty.
13:20 mircea_popescu nubbins` moreover, if they get rid of the tax burden that's just frittering away people's resources, france may actually come back from the dead.
13:21 Apocalyptic sounds like Fred Wilson knows his shit
13:23 pankkake well it's like training with weights. the french manage to do stuff despite the burden, what would happen without it?
13:24 mircea_popescu that's an optimisitc, but perhaps correct view.
13:24 nubbins` "...because totally people send you fake passports with your motherfucking face on them as a prank all the time"
13:24 nubbins` this harkens back to our earlier discussion about mail-order drugs and plausible deniability
13:25 mircea_popescu i guess so.
13:25 nubbins` (nobody would mail-order drugs with a picture of their face on the bag)
13:26 nubbins` TBF you'd think nobody would mail-order a dozen fake IDs either
13:26 nubbins` but you'd be wrong if you thought that, apparently
13:26 mircea_popescu well nobody over the age of 15, anyway
13:26 nubbins` "know what'd make this race to the bottom more fun? grease"
13:28 nubbins` aw, heh. i tell pascale about this sweet new coin, she gets all weird and disappears upstairs
13:28 nubbins` she comes downstairs, "i tried to buy that fucking thing but i can't find it on the website"
13:28 mircea_popescu lolk
13:28 nubbins` <- "masters club", can view pre-order items ;(
13:29 nubbins` i just gave her my pw and pretended to give myself amnesia ;(
13:29 mircea_popescu can't just push assets ?
13:29 pankkake what about drone-order drugs?
13:30 nubbins` it's my birthday on thursday, i think she was going for the element of surprise
13:31 nubbins` pankkake, this will srsly be a big thing
13:31 ThickAsThieves he's wondering if anyone is trying to open a bitcoin bank
13:31 nubbins` at least until the cops in any given jurisdiction get up to speed on it
13:31 nubbins` "A kitchen sink, a wet noodle, some nesting birds, a dead tapeworm, that's your NFL picks. " haha
13:32 pankkake I hope so. any decentralized shipping would annoy the hell out of the power that be
13:32 nubbins` ^ 10/10, would publish
13:32 pankkake for drugs or anything else
13:32 nubbins` pankkake, some canadian cities already have bicycle delivery
13:32 mircea_popescu nubbins` time to do the asshole routine ::D
13:32 nubbins` via referral only
13:32 mircea_popescu o, what, 10 derpcoins ? cool honey, here, 10 btc.
13:32 nubbins` HEH
13:32 pankkake via referral?
13:33 punkman pankkake, Nefario wanted to do decentralized shipping
13:33 nubbins` mircea_popescu: joke's on me -- p owns all the btc
13:33 mircea_popescu give her some of her own. asshole level +2
13:33 nubbins` pankkake: you have to be referred by a trusted customer to get bicycle delivery
13:33 mircea_popescu what, like a wot thing ?!
13:33 mircea_popescu IMPOSSIBRU
13:33 pankkake I see. why not
13:33 nubbins` exactly like that
13:34 nubbins` drug dealing is the original WoT
13:34 mircea_popescu why would anyone use it! it's bad! no css!
13:34 pankkake I definitively like invite only systems
13:34 mircea_popescu nah, banking is the original wot.
13:34 pankkake it works wonders with piracy websites :p
13:34 nubbins` banking before drug sales?
13:34 mircea_popescu definitely.
13:35 mircea_popescu drugs only exist as a post-victorian construct, much like "children" in the sense of little angels that don't enjoy the c0k
13:35 ThickAsThieves "This morning, Charlie Shrem, Vice Chairman, submitted his resignation to the Board of Directors of the Bitcoin Foundation, effective immediately."
13:35 mircea_popescu otherwise people did stuff
13:35 nubbins` eh, jesus was likely blazed on hashish when kicking the money-lenders out of the temple
13:35 dub boo
13:35 mircea_popescu nubbins` possibly not, as he was poor
13:35 mircea_popescu the money-lenders however...
13:35 nubbins` alms, dude
13:35 mircea_popescu notyet.
13:35 nubbins` jesus didn't pay for shit
13:36 ThickAsThieves "Bitcoin is freedom. It's very American."
13:36 nubbins` he had +10 ratings across the board
13:36 turbo_ac100 lol
13:36 nubbins` except for a few -10s from scammers
13:36 nubbins` notably the romans
13:36 mircea_popescu jesus paid for shit much like black slaves wore chains. it's only the latter day dorks going "this guy used to have it rough give us hashmoney"
13:36 dub "This morning the bitcoin foundation was dissolved as the joke became apparent to its last remaining shills" <- was waiting for this one
13:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00088824 = 18.8307 BTC [+] {2}
13:36 mircea_popescu it has remaining shills ?!
13:37 dub ok shill
13:37 Apocalyptic dem shills
13:37 nubbins` i'd like to do a run of shirts mocking the foundation but there's almost no point
13:37 mircea_popescu wait, i said something nice re teh scamdation sometime ?
13:37 nubbins` after a certain point it's just crass to mock
13:37 mircea_popescu nubbins` yeah, someone'd have to care before they/d buy one.
13:38 mircea_popescu anyway, someone should ask the various twerps "considering" bitcoin regulatory nonsense whether they've ever been on -assets and if not what their excuse is.
13:39 ThickAsThieves well why arent you there?
13:40 kakobrekla mp the answer is "lol omg gtfo."
13:40 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves because i actually think what they do is a waste of time.
13:40 libbelol btw, does anyone here know who the guy on the left was? Didnt get his name
13:41 kakobrekla ross ulbricht
13:41 ThickAsThieves mp takes the stand "Bitcoin doesn't give a fuck what you think. [drops mic]"
13:41 libbelol and the brit ?
13:41 Apocalyptic Barry Silbert i think
13:42 mircea_popescu i could see it, yes.
13:42 kakobrekla wasnt it james mccarthy?
13:42 mircea_popescu seems a lot of hassle to fly over just for that
13:42 mircea_popescu (not that i'd fly to the us without a handwritten note from the president saying that any usg personnel coming within five feet on me is to be shot on the spot)
13:42 kakobrekla you would get busted on the border and sent to jail anyway
13:43 mircea_popescu heh.
13:43 Apocalyptic haha mp
13:43 Apocalyptic i totally see obama agreeing to that
13:43 mircea_popescu Apocalyptic well, enforced immunity.
13:43 mircea_popescu gotta respect foreign diplomats somehow.
13:44 pankkake so Bitcoin Ambassador is much better than Bitcoin Jesus
13:44 mircea_popescu kahn didn't have the sense to enforce his immunity, but then again he was in fiat, and fiat is dumb.
13:44 kakobrekla the only thing taht comes to mind
13:44 kakobrekla www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwC_IaY3BmY
13:44 kakobrekla yeah yeah, but its a classic!
13:45 ThickAsThieves so start the Republik de la Bitcoin
13:45 mircea_popescu ;;google "republic of bitcoin"
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13:45 mircea_popescu i'd be surprised if it's not my coinage tbh
13:45 ThickAsThieves High Ambassador Nubbins
13:46 nubbins` https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=435263.msg4790260#msg4790260
13:46 nubbins` HEH
13:46 ozbot Personal responsibility and inept Bitcoin jesusing
13:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.04899998 = 0.196 BTC [+]
13:46 nubbins` nah i speak my mind too openly to be an ambassador
13:47 nubbins` although maybe that's what the world needs
13:47 mircea_popescu i was gonna say, not necessarily a disqualifying point
13:47 ThickAsThieves as long as your opinion is that of the Republik's
13:47 nubbins` speaking your mind is the grease on the rails of the runaway train to the bottom
13:48 nubbins` can't start over til you hit rock bottom, doesn't mean people are eager to get there
13:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 10 @ 0.04933997 = 0.4934 BTC [+] {4}
13:49 ThickAsThieves get dat COG
13:50 mircea_popescu people fear speaking your mind way too much.
13:50 mircea_popescu what's the big risk, that one day you may live to hear you're an asshole ?
13:50 ThickAsThieves most days
13:50 mircea_popescu won't get too far in life with no asshole...
13:51 twizt damn i hate having such a large emini spoos position on
13:52 mircea_popescu so narrow it
13:53 twizt im only gettin 20% of the upside so fuck it
13:53 twizt still nervous as shit
13:53 mooninite PETA is about to be mining soon. cointerra has begun shipping
13:53 mircea_popescu twizt listen to your motherfucking pit boss for once in your motherfucking degenerate life and NARROW IT
13:53 twizt lol pitboss
13:53 mircea_popescu lol
13:53 twizt dont flatter urself
13:53 ThickAsThieves friedcat changed the name on his email account from some random name to "ASICMINIG"
13:53 mircea_popescu i was jus' tryin to channel. did it work ?
13:53 ThickAsThieves ASIC, my nig!
13:54 twizt god this market just wants to rally
13:55 ThickAsThieves what is "large emini spoos position on"?
13:55 twizt E-MINI S&P 500
13:55 ThickAsThieves word
13:56 mircea_popescu he's exposed on the index, which is always a bad idea if you feel you're overextended.
13:56 twizt i just wanna make 2k today
13:56 twizt but i gotta make 10k to make 2k
13:57 ThickAsThieves i entered TSLA on the recent dip
13:57 mircea_popescu dude what the hell, all the bad habits. forget the round goals ffs.
13:57 twizt i hate this industry so much, but it pay sthe bills
13:57 twizt just need it to crap out
13:57 twizt i got stops on
13:58 mircea_popescu asicminig is pretty cute come to think about it
13:58 twizt i dunno how to trade stocks ThickAsThieves
13:58 twizt too convoluted
13:58 ThickAsThieves i dont do it often
13:58 twizt TSLA prolly not a bad buy imo
13:59 ThickAsThieves mostly I get to know the companies over a long time
13:59 twizt i would short time warner cable
13:59 ThickAsThieves then when things seem to be too good for too long I sell em
13:59 twizt if i had the money to short that fucker
13:59 twizt lol they lose 150k subscribers
13:59 twizt the ticker rallies
14:00 mircea_popescu shorting in a paper market is riskier than going long actually.
14:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.426 = 0.852 BTC [-]
14:00 twizt yo ThickAsThieves i heard ur making a game
14:00 mircea_popescu because your profits you make shorting are still paper.
14:00 ThickAsThieves me, making a game, never been a thing
14:00 twizt really?
14:00 ThickAsThieves really
14:00 twizt duffer1 said u were
14:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 30 @ 0.04984998 = 1.4955 BTC [+] {4}
14:01 twizt whats that game where people keep destroying 6 figure ships
14:01 twizt need to make something like that for bitcoins rofl
14:02 ThickAsThieves mp is making games tho
14:02 ThickAsThieves or, game
14:02 twizt nice
14:02 lippoper ready for the lulz?
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14:02 ThickAsThieves meh
14:02 twizt rofl
14:03 mike_c wasn't that coindesk's problem with mpex shorting? that you still end up with bitcoins.
14:03 ThickAsThieves that was forbes, first at least
14:04 mircea_popescu mike_c someone's, anyway. at least pre-futures
14:04 ThickAsThieves he was set out to make it look impossible
14:04 ThickAsThieves reporting obstacles is easier than overcoming them
14:05 mike_c right. light bulb. that is a significant difference between shorting with options vs. x.eur :)
14:05 mircea_popescu yeah, the thing with journos is, often their editor gives them a thing to write. like the wired kid HAD TO say some shit about "nouveau riche" in his piece, because.
14:05 mircea_popescu conceivably forbes wanted to say that you can't short bitcoin as a support for "it's a bubble" or w/e "editorial policy" they had
14:05 ThickAsThieves that reminds of the rap i started writing back when we were starting an IRC band
14:06 mircea_popescu ^
14:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 18 @ 0.08880542 = 1.5985 BTC [+] {10}
14:06 ThickAsThieves Nouveau riche from the faucets.
14:06 ThickAsThieves Ice cold like my wallet.
14:06 ThickAsThieves More withdrawals than the bank allows.
14:06 ThickAsThieves Got OTC rep, who gon Gox me now?
14:06 mircea_popescu noob writer's mistake, really. but it does make all sorts of marginals usable as journo replacement, so.
14:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00423716 = 0.4237 BTC [-] {8}
14:13 ThickAsThieves "When an Uber driver kills someone, who is responsible?"
14:15 mircea_popescu what's an uber driver ?
14:15 ThickAsThieves .d
14:15 ozbot 2193847870.17428 | Next Diff in 1330 blocks | Estimated Change: 12.3047% in 8d 2h 21m 22s
14:15 ThickAsThieves decentalized taxis!
14:15 ThickAsThieves decentralized*
14:18 kakobrekla bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67547.msg4803203#msg4803203
14:18 kakobrekla http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67547.msg4803203#msg4803203
14:18 ozbot Starting a new FPGA mining farm/contract Cognitive Resurrected on[Havelock]
14:19 ThickAsThieves nice words, kako
14:19 kakobrekla ty.
14:20 mircea_popescu lol you have too much time
14:20 ThickAsThieves http://bitbet.us/bet/740/may-i-suggest-9b-difficulty/
14:20 ozbot BitBet - May I suggest 9B difficulty?
14:20 kakobrekla mircea_popescu thats why nothing gets done
14:20 ThickAsThieves i'm tempted to No
14:20 ThickAsThieves but my brain tells me lessons were meant to be learned
14:22 mircea_popescu which is why brainfucking is so pleasant
14:22 mike_c bitbet proposal: kako is re-banned on bitcointalk by march
14:22 kakobrekla :(
14:23 mike_c i love your posts, just not sure if they are universally admired
14:23 ThickAsThieves but what if kako pays for unbanment
14:23 mircea_popescu ^
14:24 kakobrekla that just calls for an ipo
14:24 ThickAsThieves sell banning insurance
14:24 ThickAsThieves we pay your bail
14:25 kakobrekla that could work
14:25 kakobrekla how much do they want anyway?
14:25 mircea_popescu kakokare : you must pay some btc each month
14:25 mircea_popescu for free unbanning down the road
14:25 kakobrekla not they, thermos
14:26 kakobrekla kakokare lol
14:26 mircea_popescu http://31.media.tumblr.com/c8a7862e7662173cbb9c7186050bc371/tumblr_mx510oTnQe1qdz7nho1_400.gif << leaving this here if anyone needs caption base
14:26 ThickAsThieves it looks like a monster face
14:26 mircea_popescu to me it looks like forum investors being... serviced.
14:26 ThickAsThieves like fleshy preying mantis
14:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30700 @ 0.00088654 = 27.2168 BTC [-] {2}
14:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12263 @ 0.00088498 = 10.8525 BTC [-]
14:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 300 @ 0.00085891 = 0.2577 BTC [+] {3}
14:43 nubbins` another big power outage yesterday
14:43 nubbins` i have serious reservations about the future
14:47 Apocalyptic is anyone watching http://www.totalwebcasting.com/view/?id=nysdfs ?
14:47 Apocalyptic the woman is discussing a centralized currency backed by the federal reserve's gold
14:47 mircea_popescu some were but i suspect eventually got bored.
14:48 Apocalyptic panel 2 just started now
14:48 ThickAsThieves someone shut her up already
14:48 Apocalyptic ^
14:49 Apocalyptic imma surf of the bitcoin thingy to promote my shit
14:49 Apocalyptic *on
14:49 nubbins` a gold-backed currency
14:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32900 @ 0.00088879 = 29.2412 BTC [+] {3}
14:49 nubbins` how novel
14:50 mircea_popescu lol
14:50 mircea_popescu "you guise are like snark bullion already" ~mpoe-pr
14:50 nubbins` in the meantime, i just received an email receipt for that $100/$100 coin
14:50 nubbins` so i guess i've got a birthday gift on the way ;p
14:51 nubbins` gotta say i like this silver-backed coins thing the mint is pushing
14:51 mircea_popescu one day the girl will read these logs and think you're such a smug asshole!!1
14:51 nubbins` even if most of the designs are uninspiring
14:51 nubbins` mircea_popescu, no sense masking the truth
14:52 nubbins` when i was freaking out at our last batch of tenants, one of them said -- no joke -- "you'll be single again soon if your wife ever finds out your true nature"
14:52 nubbins` this was in response to me calling them subhuman knuckle-dragging mouth-breathers
14:52 mircea_popescu ahahahaha
14:52 nubbins` "actually i've been relaying all this to my wife, and she can't breathe for laughing"
14:52 mircea_popescu perhaps teh mouth-breathers have a point. get her into d/s asap.
14:53 nubbins` the mouth breathers had no point
14:54 nubbins` their defense in legal proceedings was essentially "no we didn't"
14:54 nubbins` in response to all the allegations
14:54 mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/IlTtW1m.jpg
14:54 mircea_popescu ^ nsfw
14:54 nubbins` aww ;(
14:55 nubbins` are those possums
14:55 mircea_popescu those are QUTELS
14:55 ThickAsThieves cutelels
14:55 nubbins` with a name like that, i bet they've got their own ubuntu release
14:55 mircea_popescu cuatls, really. but it needs more cute in the spelling
14:55 nubbins` quirky qutel
14:55 nubbins` cuirky cuatl
14:56 mircea_popescu the 2nd one from the mother could have its own coin
14:56 mircea_popescu flatten dodgecoin
14:56 nubbins` the one with his face hidden by an ass?
14:56 nubbins` a2mcoin
14:56 mircea_popescu a nm. the 1st one. the jumper guy
14:56 mircea_popescu derpjump of 2.5 inches.
14:57 nubbins` taking a cute photograph = block found
14:57 nubbins` reward is based on aesthetics
14:58 nubbins` i wonder when we'll see a celebrity come out with their own alt?
14:58 mircea_popescu coyne west guy neh ?
14:58 nubbins` well yeah but in reverse
14:58 nubbins` like justin bieber launches biebcoin
14:59 nubbins` rather than some no-name stealing his thunder
14:59 mircea_popescu actually, all the hollywood strumpets could band together
14:59 mircea_popescu and make slutcoin.
14:59 mircea_popescu blockchain stores all their secret homeporn for all eternity
14:59 ThickAsThieves wivesofbitcoincoin
14:59 nubbins` "worried about your image being misappropriated by those altcoin nerds? jump the gun, call Custom Alts Inc today!"
14:59 nubbins` just like IMDb and actor photos
15:00 nubbins` "pay us to submit a photo so you don't get stuck with a turd mugshot"
15:00 nubbins` if kanye had done this, he could have picked a cool logo AND a better name
15:00 ThickAsThieves i dunno, good coin names arent easy
15:01 nubbins` doesn't have to be good
15:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 99 @ 0.0290873 = 2.8796 BTC [+] {11}
15:01 nubbins` for example, know what paris hilton's perfume is called?
15:01 nubbins` paris hilton.
15:01 ThickAsThieves plus, everyone would call them coinyes anyway
15:01 mircea_popescu i wonder what her turds are called.
15:01 nubbins` well no that's the thing
15:01 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves coinyes, the rapecoin ?
15:01 nubbins` if kanye had made his coin first
15:02 nubbins` there never would have been a coinye.
15:02 nubbins` it woulda been some other schmo
15:02 ThickAsThieves what i mean is like if mp made a coin called Mircea Popescu
15:02 mircea_popescu kinda surprised there's no obamacoin yet.
15:02 ThickAsThieves we'd just call it mpexcoin
15:02 mircea_popescu "for illegal political campaign contributions"
15:02 nubbins` well yeah sure
15:03 ThickAsThieves one day the YMCA changed its name to The Y
15:03 Apocalyptic "maybe there is a backdoor somewhere in bitcoin"
15:03 kakobrekla ITS STILL BETA STFU
15:03 ThickAsThieves it's right behind you!
15:03 nubbins` and magic the gathering online exchange changed its name to mtgox
15:03 Apocalyptic lol TAT
15:04 ThickAsThieves somneone please say No and No
15:05 nubbins` did i ever tell you guys that we once made a bespoke children's book for a single dad?
15:05 nubbins` 2 copies, the guy wanted. all original illustrations
15:05 nubbins` was something like $200 per book
15:05 ThickAsThieves notbad
15:05 nubbins` gave one to his kid and the other to mom ;(
15:05 nubbins` the title: "who loves you?"
15:06 nubbins` (hint: not mom!)
15:06 ThickAsThieves Betteridge's law
15:06 mircea_popescu wow srlsy ?
15:06 mircea_popescu why do people more readily spend on art to be assholes than to be pleasant ?
15:06 nubbins` ThickAsThieves: well, it never came right out and said, but...
15:06 nubbins` mircea_popescu: you ever pay anyone 1btc to stick a sharpie in their mouth? ;p
15:07 mircea_popescu jajaja
15:07 ThickAsThieves zing!
15:07 mircea_popescu see, that i posit is not my fault, but the resistance of the medium. i tried to give strippers 1 btc for free. they wouldn't take it.
15:07 mircea_popescu once i offered it for shoving things in painful places... takers, suddenly.
15:07 mircea_popescu people are mostly so smart they end up doing it to themselves.
15:08 ThickAsThieves did you offer the strippers same deal?
15:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 895 @ 0.00082526 = 0.7386 BTC [-] {6}
15:09 mircea_popescu no.
15:11 mircea_popescu AshleyV ping
15:11 kakobrekla we need a bigger sample size
15:11 kakobrekla more buttcoins and more strippers
15:12 mircea_popescu no, real climate science depends on low sample sizes.
15:12 kakobrekla ipcc fucking up my arguments.
15:14 dub its cold today, global warming is bunk
15:15 kakobrekla thats why its not 'global warming' anymore but 'climate change'
15:15 kakobrekla it can go either way and they are right, we are doomed.
15:15 dub sure it is
15:15 mircea_popescu im saving myself for "climate period"
15:15 mircea_popescu then the weather could have pms
15:15 kakobrekla :D
15:15 dub you should have a climate sexchange
15:15 Apocalyptic wow the woman knows about private keys
15:16 mircea_popescu sad fucking state of affairs we've lived to see
15:16 mircea_popescu "oo, the monkey knows what a doorknob is!"
15:16 kakobrekla impressive monkey
15:17 kakobrekla litecoin guy is uncompromisable
15:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6740 @ 0.00088498 = 5.9648 BTC [-]
15:17 mircea_popescu he;'s got his fortress of litecoinitude /
15:17 kakobrekla pumping his shit.
15:18 Apocalyptic well mircea, i thought here way more clueless
15:18 Apocalyptic *her
15:18 mircea_popescu i get you, just, generally speaking
15:18 mircea_popescu it's sad it's gotten this low.
15:18 dub whats next.. niggers on irc?
15:19 Apocalyptic ^ already happened
15:19 mircea_popescu i blame pestalozzi, personally. if every nine year old girl was given the choice of losing a finger a week or learning math like a pro we wouldn't have these problems
15:19 mircea_popescu lots of girls with three fingers around, i guess, but hey.
15:20 jurov from the mpex scientology thread: I wonder how the discussion would look like if there were no coinbr referrals.
15:20 jurov hahaha
15:20 jurov come on my shills!
15:20 libbelol i wish mr litecoin ... knew more about how it all works? or even bothered to tell these clowns what they are talking about ?
15:20 mircea_popescu libbelol what's that name come from ?
15:21 libbelol libbe came from "liberator"
15:21 mircea_popescu aha
15:21 libbelol then i just added a lol once on irc, because libbe was taken (after i had been using it on quakenet for like 4 years+)
15:21 mircea_popescu in likelines, before.
15:25 kakobrekla omg litecoinguy shutup
15:27 libbelol WHAT THE FUCK. what. the fuck are they talking about
15:27 libbelol if an exchange holds bitcoins for you, they arent lost?
15:27 kakobrekla if one should go under
15:28 libbelol the coins never dissapear tho
15:28 kakobrekla well, not until i put them in my pocket
15:29 libbelol fair enough, but that would be something else than just the exchange failing
15:29 libbelol that would be you STEALING the coins
15:29 kakobrekla well going under in a broad sense
15:30 mircea_popescu that awkward moment when you realise people trying to teach you EVERYTHING, such as for instance, physics, or how to cook
15:30 mircea_popescu have about as much of a clue as these dudes explaining bitcoin.
15:30 kakobrekla "they like to support alternate currency"
15:30 Apocalyptic omg litecoin guy
15:30 libbelol REALLY
15:30 kakobrekla LIKE FUCKING BITCOIN IS NOT ALTERNATE ENOUGH
15:30 kakobrekla BITCHSLAP
15:30 Apocalyptic seriously nao
15:30 libbelol he is such a fucking tool
15:31 libbelol hahahahahaha
15:31 libbelol here's going to be eaten
15:31 kakobrekla wait, no, BITSLAP is what ill do.
15:31 mircea_popescu lol
15:31 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo mike_c benkay & the rest of the blogging crowd : you gonna trasncribe this ?
15:31 mircea_popescu wiht like notes ? for the lulz ?
15:31 mike_c i wish i could watch. fking internet is broken today.
15:31 mircea_popescu could be a taaki speech moment.
15:31 kakobrekla "so i lauched, and people saw the value, so they started mining it... " and he forgots to add "then they saw doge, and saw value in that and went mining that."
15:32 mike_c can't access edgecast servers.
15:32 mircea_popescu kakobrekla you don't understand shilling.
15:32 kakobrekla back to the books.
15:33 libbelol really?
15:33 mircea_popescu amusingly, the usg debacle comes exactly less than a day after https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=435263.msg4802685#msg4802685
15:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1329 @ 0.00082771 = 1.1 BTC [+] {3}
15:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 3400 @ 0.00082501 = 2.805 BTC [-] {3}
15:37 Apocalyptic mike_c, there will be recordings
15:37 mike_c ah, good
15:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.000825 = 0.825 BTC [-]
15:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 142 @ 0.00085973 = 0.1221 BTC [+] {3}
15:39 kakobrekla some good ones http://imgur.com/a/H6vfA
15:40 Apocalyptic he's talking about colour coins now
15:40 kakobrekla OMG COLORED COINS ON TV
15:40 kakobrekla hahaha
15:40 kakobrekla ON COLOR TV
15:40 Apocalyptic ^
15:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.02999998 = 0.21 BTC [+]
15:46 kakobrekla blah
15:46 kakobrekla disappointing talk
15:47 Namworld yes
15:47 kakobrekla "kinda but its like forever" ~litecoinguy
15:47 kakobrekla NOT YOUR FUCKIN WORDS ARE THERE FOREVER
15:48 simlay Was the first panel more interesting? I started ~10 minutes ago.
15:48 kakobrekla it was certainly less stupid
15:48 Apocalyptic it was yeah
15:48 Namworld It's just the state of NY. Who cares about NY?
15:49 Namworld First panel was actually good. At least in comparison.
15:49 kakobrekla i wonder if btc will end up like weed in the us
15:49 kakobrekla illegal in half the states
15:49 kakobrekla give or take.
15:51 mooninite way more than half
15:51 mooninite :( *sniff* *toke*
15:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.028 = 0.308 BTC [-] {3}
15:52 kakobrekla i wouldnt be surprised tbh
15:53 kakobrekla "we cant regulate it, throw a blanket on it and hit it with a shovel"
15:54 punkman message from US: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVrjzOUZJI4
15:57 Namworld The plaid Bitcoin map of the US. Legend: Gray - Illegal | Gold - Legal
15:57 assbot [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 300 @ 0.00170089 = 0.5103 BTC [+]
16:06 mircea_popescu lol at the fixed brands.
16:07 mircea_popescu simlay no.
16:07 mircea_popescu <kakobrekla> i wonder if btc will end up like weed in the us << there is no actual way to make bitcoin illegal. think about it.
16:08 kakobrekla well they is no actual way to make a lot of things, yet they still do it
16:08 kakobrekla that is not the point
16:08 Namworld He never said it would work. Just that the states would hit on the head of their citizens found using it.
16:08 mircea_popescu i guess.
16:09 kakobrekla you can make it illegal by making such rules that for example you need to apply for licences and shit, but give you no actual way to get to them
16:09 kakobrekla i have seen this happen before.
16:09 mircea_popescu a licence to what ?
16:09 mircea_popescu you can recreate bitcoin as fucking pet rocks.
16:09 mircea_popescu make pet rocks illegal ?
16:10 kakobrekla for fiat btc biz
16:10 mircea_popescu kinda shockingly narrow usecase.
16:11 kakobrekla yeah well i do not expect 7000 exchanges in the us.
16:12 kakobrekla it will be as you put it shockingly few.
16:12 mircea_popescu giving us citizens more reasons to travel abroad isn't such a bad idea.
16:12 kakobrekla way off point, so imma gonna go. brb
16:12 mircea_popescu that country is still governable strictly because most of the population doesn't know how shitty its life is as compared to poor people in the third world.
16:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44103 @ 0.00088921 = 39.2168 BTC [+] {2}
16:17 mircea_popescu https://twitter.com/AGlusskiy/status/428263252066201600
16:17 ozbot Twitter / AGlusskiy: @Mircea_Popescu I am sure that ...
16:17 mircea_popescu incoming.
16:19 the20year Havelock is coming along finally, don
16:20 mike_c date set?
16:21 the20year Hopefully trying get one today or tomorrow
16:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37200 @ 0.00088481 = 32.9149 BTC [-] {3}
16:23 mike_c i am curious how the havelock crowd will react to what is at least a good fiat investment.
16:23 mike_c good luck.
16:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04888885 = 0.2444 BTC [-] {2}
16:30 Apocalyptic <mircea_popescu> https://twitter.com/AGlusskiy/status/428263252066201600 // what's the context ?
16:32 the20year We
16:32 the20year We'll see
16:40 mircea_popescu i dunno, some guy's gonna help me fix bitcoinz ?
16:41 kakobrekla i thought vitalik is onto that
16:41 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/744/charlie-shrem-will-plead-guilty-to-money-laundering incidentally.
16:41 ozbot BitBet - Charlie Shrem will plead guilty to money laundering
16:42 mircea_popescu kakobrekla is there some way to see conversations on twitter ?
16:42 kakobrekla dafuq do i know
16:43 dub doubt he'd go guilty on that
16:44 dub one of the others maybe
16:44 mircea_popescu nah, cause the others carry 5 years top
16:44 dub exactly
16:45 mircea_popescu well doh. plead guilty to a 5 year tops first offense you get out in six months.
16:45 mircea_popescu what makes you think that's on the table ? it'd be more embarassing to the da than not making the arrest in hte first place.
16:46 dub presumably he'll find some people to sell out
16:46 mircea_popescu heh.
16:46 mircea_popescu ironically, he could do a lot of damage arguing the case to all hell.
16:46 mircea_popescu in spite of all the success pretense, doubtful he has either the gumption or the resources,
16:47 mircea_popescu but then again that's what life's for, we find out.
16:47 mircea_popescu in either case sooner or later would-be preditors will learn the hard way messing with bitcoin is not unlike trying to lick a porcupine to death.
16:49 azi` hm.. that's so weird.. sending torvalds btc tips http://www.itworld.com/cloud-computing/402112/linus-torvalds-and-other-developers-are-leaving-bitcoins-table
16:50 mircea_popescu that's ridoinculous, torvalds never was "at the table"
16:51 mircea_popescu what bs is this
16:51 dub a whole thousand dollars!
16:51 dub he's leaving buttcoin on the table, not leaving the table of buttcoin
16:51 mircea_popescu itworld needs to hire better monkeys.
16:53 dub granted to an internet journalist its a lot of money
16:53 azi` fyi its even less than 1k
16:53 azi` more like $200
16:54 mircea_popescu ironically, the spurious "tip" service generated less for torvalds than the strippers left on the table in the earlier linkd material
16:54 mircea_popescu clearly very relevant and everything
16:54 the20year I really didn't think a 30pg biz plan/prosectus would be too long with what we're posting on HL
16:58 kakobrekla just use a pic or two, each is worth a thousand words
17:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.04888887 = 0.1956 BTC [+] {2}
17:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18676 @ 0.00088922 = 16.6071 BTC [+]
17:23 FabianB ;;premium mtgox btce
17:23 gribble Premium of MtGox over BTC-E is currently 20.7417304756 %.
17:23 pankkake torvalds is probably 1) unaware of the website 2) rich enough to not care about $136
17:23 pankkake I'd certainly like a bounty system for open source devs, but I'm not very convinced "tips" can work and reward the right people
17:25 pankkake https://www.gittip.com/ for a fiat version
17:25 ozbot Gittip
17:25 pankkake lol to receiver "I am making the world better by facilitating conversations about diversity, inclusivity and social justice in the hopes of promoting empathy and equality within the tech community."
17:25 pankkake top*
17:26 mircea_popescu pankkake tips are exactly the wrong thing in that they would split the community into two types, the actual devs and the people who make a living pretending to be devs.
17:26 mircea_popescu it's bad enough with fucktards a la maxwell or hearn hanging on to the thing just for the "fame"
17:26 mircea_popescu god forbid they start making a living at it, it'll be the death of os.
17:26 pankkake it's often working that way in the circles I know, tip or not
17:27 mircea_popescu myeah.
17:27 pankkake some excellent devs have no social media presence, almost no existence besides posting enormous git patches on mailing lists ;)
17:29 kakobrekla shrooms.
17:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.04888887 = 0.1956 BTC [+] {2}
17:30 ThickAsThieves the new blockchain.info logo looks lame
17:30 ThickAsThieves it was better before
17:31 ThickAsThieves it was also better in blue
17:31 pankkake they're fixing the css instead of fixing the real bugs :/
17:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.04899999 = 0.147 BTC [+]
17:31 kakobrekla but css is the real bug
17:32 pankkake sometimes it multiples the btcs by a random number that makes no sense and adds a $, is that css?
17:32 kakobrekla hehe
17:32 mircea_popescu it's c$$
17:33 mircea_popescu i have the world's best roast in the ovben and it is KILLING ME
17:34 pankkake Cϟϟ
17:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.1065 BTC [+]
17:47 davout ThickAsThieves: it looks kinda fuzzy/dirty
17:47 the20year Revised the 5 year projection numbers, assuming i get my cut, they look (IMO) fantastic for investors , first year APY of 10.86% , 5th year return of 104.96%
17:47 turbo_ac100 mircea_popescu: do people repair in Romania?
17:47 davout or maybe its just my glasses
17:48 turbo_ac100 electronics I mean
17:50 mircea_popescu notrly.
17:50 mircea_popescu why ?
17:51 ThickAsThieves davout, it's poor ability to scale and questionable typography are signs they didn't hire a quality pro
17:51 ThickAsThieves its
17:51 turbo_ac100 I have a repair business and want to find stuff in eastern europe
17:51 ThickAsThieves i should get into bitcoin business brand mgmt
17:51 turbo_ac100 *staff rather
17:51 ThickAsThieves teach these people to scam like adults
17:52 ThickAsThieves (that's a joke)
17:52 mircea_popescu wow it's still a business ?
17:52 mircea_popescu you may find decent elec engineers on the cheap, but i doubt they'd have much practice fixing stuff. tinkering on their own more like it.
17:53 turbo_ac100 well, a repair website is. Not complicated stuff, just more or less an ifixit done right
17:53 mircea_popescu interesting.
17:53 ThickAsThieves another possibility for blockchain's logo is their internal pm didn't take the advice of said hired pro
17:53 turbo_ac100 ifixit.com tries to go to europe big time but they still pretty much suck
17:53 ThickAsThieves common
17:53 mircea_popescu so what'd i repair ?
17:54 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves they changed it once before, and it went the same way, shittier after.
17:54 turbo_ac100 appliances is the proper term I think. Phones, laptops, Xboxes and so on
17:54 ThickAsThieves sounds like they have an engineer in charge of branding
17:55 mircea_popescu i am surprised fixing your own iphone isn't against the tos.
17:55 azi` its in a way crazy that we just throw stuff when something trivial breaks off
17:55 mircea_popescu it is.
17:56 Dimsler_ lol
17:56 Dimsler_ took shrem away
17:56 punkman azi`: it costs a lot to debug modern electronics, not trivial
17:56 turbo_ac100 azi`: that's what I think, too.
17:56 Dimsler_ i honestly hate the bitcoin foundation
17:56 Dimsler_ collection of retards
17:56 mircea_popescu welcome to the club.
17:56 azi` yeah but it probably costs a lot because the infrastructure for debugging is not built
17:56 mircea_popescu thoi they're more comedic than anything. keeping other retards busy
17:56 ThickAsThieves an iphone is just an expensive integrated circuit
17:56 turbo_ac100 punkman: some things are hard to debug the obvious things we do well
17:56 Dimsler_ all those clowns do is more damage than good
17:56 ThickAsThieves replace the whole thing!
17:56 punkman though I agree, throwing away a perfectly good TV with a blow capacitor is an incredible waste
17:56 azi` its probably the same way with software if you don't put debugging capability in your code
17:56 punkman *blow
17:56 punkman *blown
17:57 Dimsler_ well i jus tdon't like how gavin has that bitcoind sourceforge key
17:57 azi` to change the topic a bit so what's this thing with shrem, was he actually a shady guy?
17:57 Dimsler_ not like it matters
17:57 ThickAsThieves yet they still make xmas lights with individually replaceable bulbs
17:57 turbo_ac100 for the non obvious things it works like this: sedn the device to some guy knowing his shit, pay a fixed amount that covers a basic fix (~20€) and get it debugged
17:57 Dimsler_ anyone watch NYS inquiry today?
17:58 Dimsler_ one of the guys totally owned charles lee
17:58 punkman turbo_ac100: does that work with big items?
17:58 ThickAsThieves who owned him?
17:58 mircea_popescu Dimsler_ not like anyone actually uses the new versions anywya.
17:58 ThickAsThieves i started not paying attention
17:58 punkman been waiting 2 months to get the damn dishwasher fixed
17:58 Dimsler_ with the highlander quote of btc being the best one
17:59 ThickAsThieves dishwashers are all disposable these days
17:59 KRS1 nothing really came of it, at least for now
17:59 mircea_popescu azi` not as far as anyone knew, he seemed the regular 20something reefer.
17:59 ThickAsThieves i got mine "fixed"
17:59 ThickAsThieves waste of money
17:59 punkman mine is expensive and nicew
17:59 turbo_ac100 punkman: difficult. It depends: for washing machines you have to have a license to repair it. The pricing is insane
17:59 mircea_popescu washing machines, at least what i've seen, contain a 20 to 50lb piece of concrete
18:00 punkman yah I'm waiting for the official repair guy to get the damn part
18:00 mircea_popescu shipping that shit around is a waste.
18:00 turbo_ac100 mircea_popescu: sure, nobody sends those
18:00 mircea_popescu besides, you should be able to fix that yourself
18:00 mircea_popescu it's an engine and three contacts.
18:01 turbo_ac100 lol I don't need romanians for that
18:01 ThickAsThieves if i fixed all the things i could fix myself myself, would i still be american?
18:01 turbo_ac100 mircea_popescu: plus assloads of planned obsolesence circuitry sadly
18:01 davout i just read that "it's an engine and three contracts" XD
18:02 mircea_popescu turbo_ac100 i meant the impersonal you. whoever's machine breaks
18:02 mircea_popescu davout lol
18:03 turbo_ac100 in austria one big NGO has offices all over austria where they replace the µcs for better efficiency and longer life
18:03 mircea_popescu last time mine broke down it was fun, i taught teh girlz electrics.
18:03 turbo_ac100 mircea_popescu: sure
18:03 punkman mircea_popescu: do you happen to know what's the most recent Thinkpad without Intel AMT crap?
18:03 mircea_popescu i don't.
18:04 mircea_popescu is the thinkpad like the most beloved laptop design of all time by now ?
18:04 punkman possibly
18:04 turbo_ac100 I like the austrian way but prefer a real business obv.
18:05 turbo_ac100 what about romanian developers?
18:08 mircea_popescu what about them ?
18:10 turbo_ac100 Well, I heard it about Sofia that developers are often times willing to study somewhere in the EU and go back to Bulgaria despite way lower wages. Maybe it's the same in Bucharest?
18:11 mircea_popescu prolly.
18:11 mircea_popescu what do they care, internet.
18:12 turbo_ac100 Some people still want to sit in an office for w/ever reason and go local.
18:12 mircea_popescu no, actually, eastern europe has much better hdi than the rest of the world.
18:12 mircea_popescu people like the local food, the local girls, the local atmosphere
18:12 mircea_popescu and they'll be fucked if they'll live in the shithole that is the uk or w/e
18:12 mircea_popescu can't even get decent pickles.
18:13 mircea_popescu the jews and the italians resolved this problem in the 1920s ny by inventing the deli.
18:13 KRS1 The day the deli was invented in the 1920s..well, this was a sacred day. Long live the deli.
18:14 turbo_ac100 That's why I'd like to have an office there...
18:15 mircea_popescu well so get one, it's not expensive.
18:18 turbo_ac100 I'm off getting the necessary funding. start-up life sucks. later
18:18 turbo_ac100 :P
18:18 mircea_popescu lol later.
18:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26250 @ 0.00088817 = 23.3145 BTC [-] {2}
18:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1463 @ 0.000091 = 0.1331 BTC [+]
18:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00088562 = 6.9521 BTC [-]
18:41 mircea_popescu openbsd story, mpoe climbs to 1. shrem story, mpoe back to 8x
18:41 mircea_popescu i guess the greatest loser there is me.
18:41 mircea_popescu IT IS NOT MY FAULT SOME KID SMOKES THE BONG
18:47 ThickAsThieves hmm Gmail won't let me be in two accounts if I use Opera now
18:47 ThickAsThieves wtf
18:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.00088562 = 6.775 BTC [-]
18:52 ThickAsThieves i think i figured it out
18:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 41 @ 0.00311694 = 0.1278 BTC [-] {2}
18:54 kakobrekla opera went to shit
18:54 kakobrekla im still using it though
18:57 asciilifeform i'd dearly love to hear of a current www browser that hasn't gone to shit.
18:58 kakobrekla is why im still using o.
19:00 asciilifeform interesting how a closed-source browser is still so beloved
19:01 kakobrekla its not so beloved.
19:01 mircea_popescu asciilifeform antiques.
19:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1200 @ 0.00085984 = 1.0318 BTC [+] {5}
19:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10936 @ 0.00088455 = 9.6734 BTC [-] {3}
19:15 BingoBoingo punkman: A number of the AMD Thinkpads don't or at least shouldn't have that (May lack that and possess something else). I think the X140e is the newest of that bunch.
19:15 mircea_popescu so i google to find if i ever reviewed boiler room, the movie. what do i find ?
19:15 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2013&bots=true#102590
19:15 ozbot #bitcoin-assets log
19:15 mircea_popescu prolly should be in the scientology thread, doing the guy's research for him.
19:17 mike_c lowlife goatherder. harsh!
19:18 mike_c wow, there are over 1m goats in romania.
19:19 mircea_popescu how the fuck do you know that ?!
19:19 mike_c random internet page of course.
19:19 mike_c http://ercg2014.org/goat-breeding-in-romania/
19:19 ozbot Goat Breeding in Romania | ERCG 2014
19:19 mike_c how could it not be true?
19:20 mike_c "The number of goat is about 1220000." hehe
19:20 mircea_popescu reason i ask is, recently the government was embarassed to all hell
19:20 mircea_popescu because it couldn't produce a total figure for porcines in the country
19:21 mircea_popescu notwithstanding they do expensive tagging and whatnot.
19:21 mike_c pigs i can't help with.
19:21 pankkake I saw The Wolf of Wall Street. first part felt like Bitcoin
19:21 mircea_popescu animals have individual health bulletins
19:21 mircea_popescu pankkake since you mention it, http://trilema.com/2014/the-wolf-of-wall-street/
19:23 ThickAsThieves http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/28/us-usa-spectrum-channelsharing-idUSBREA0R1Q120140128
19:23 ozbot U.S. wireless group proposes TV channel-sharing pilot
19:23 ThickAsThieves theyre gonna broadcast on same waves to prove it can be done
19:25 ThickAsThieves bets wall st portrayal is American Psycho
19:25 ThickAsThieves best*
19:25 ThickAsThieves :)
19:26 pankkake I am so many trilema articles behind
19:26 mircea_popescu one can not keep up
19:26 mircea_popescu my mother can not keep up
19:27 pankkake hm. so I should get a slave to TL;DR it for me
19:27 pankkake maybe I'll read that Asylum thing on my ereader
19:29 mircea_popescu seems to me if you pay a woman to read trilema a slave is you.
19:29 mircea_popescu she gets all the fun
19:29 pankkake anyway I liked TWoWS, weird as I both dislike movies about drugs and di caprio. technically the movies good without making sense
19:30 pankkake I wish there was more emphasis on the actual financial part
19:30 mircea_popescu dude...
19:30 mircea_popescu idiot kid is shown droping acid or w/e pre exam
19:31 mircea_popescu then he "passed it"
19:31 mircea_popescu magically.
19:31 mircea_popescu like that.
19:31 mircea_popescu what's this, like a telenovella, people are supposedly working but nobody does anything ever.
19:32 pankkake I'm not used to read long things on a computer. Except amateur porn stories I guess
19:32 pankkake actually that's how I started to learn English outside of education :D
19:32 mircea_popescu jesus.
19:33 Apocalyptic mircea_popescu, have you watched Black mirror yet ?
19:33 mircea_popescu nop
19:34 Apocalyptic some material for trilema articles in there imo
19:34 mircea_popescu i don't really do tv series
19:34 mike_c i hope you weren't saying you didn't enjoy boiler room. granted, it's not good film, but it is enjoyable.
19:34 Apocalyptic nor do I, but i'm kinda sure you'll like this
19:34 Apocalyptic it's not even a tv serie as in the episodes are completely unrelated to each other
19:34 Apocalyptic consider it a set of mini films
19:35 pankkake seems like the twilight zone
19:35 mircea_popescu mike_c marginally.
19:35 KRS1 mircea_popescu: did you at least do breaking bad?
19:35 mircea_popescu it's pretty bad. one can enjoy the invasion of the alien robot gorillas too,
19:35 mike_c only if done entertainingly though.
19:36 mircea_popescu KRS1 i went through a few of that and game of thrones during an hour once
19:36 mike_c ah, you did like the sting though. great movie, also with some odd plotlines.
19:36 mircea_popescu the sting was good
19:37 BingoBoingo mike_c: Does this link work for you? http://www.totalwebcasting.com/view/?id=nysdfs
19:38 mike_c yeah, but i couldn't see the video because it was on edgecast. on a different connection now and it works. thanks for the link.
19:40 BingoBoingo mike_c: You are welcome. All of these verbal tics... I dunno if I can actually transcribe this chairperson. Maybe wait for official transcripts or Odesk, then correct the inevitable mistakes?
19:41 punkman Apocalyptic: Black Mirror was fun, especially the first one: "a much-loved member of the Royal Family, is kidnapped. For her safe return, the Prime Minister must have sexual intercourse with a pig on national television."
19:41 Apocalyptic yeah
19:41 Apocalyptic the second one was good too
19:41 Apocalyptic kinda captured all murica there
19:41 Apocalyptic and brilliantly executed
19:41 mike_c heh. odesk is probably best to keep sanity intact.
19:41 Apocalyptic seriously mircea you're missing out
19:42 mircea_popescu ok ok. teh point is made.
19:42 BingoBoingo mike_c: Reminds me of that Nefario video
19:43 mircea_popescu from mike_c's earlier goatlink : "The number of goat is about 1220000."
19:43 mircea_popescu much number...
19:45 punkman a goat conference you say
19:45 punkman sounds interesting
19:45 punkman do all animals have a conference?
19:46 mircea_popescu pretty much all professions have a trade rag and a trade show
19:46 BingoBoingo I have to wonder is a single Winkelvii incapable of undertaking any action on their own?
19:49 punkman I thought they were conjoined
19:52 BingoBoingo If people don't take care to contain the spread of Winkelvii http://www.atlasobscura.com/places/world-s-largest-organism-2
19:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 80 @ 0.00444997 = 0.356 BTC [-]
20:02 mike_c ;;bc,24hprc
20:02 gribble 839.04
20:03 nubbins` prc
20:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25650 @ 0.00088683 = 22.7472 BTC [+] {5}
20:04 nubbins` price rub cocks
20:04 mike_c bitcoincharts seems to be up, but not mpoe
20:05 mike_c google needs to get those internet blimps out there already.
20:15 punkman http://www.alternativepig.eu/home.html
20:15 ozbot Home
20:18 asciilifeform silly, everyone knows that 'alternative' pig is: 'long.'
20:21 punkman so, the US has a patent for weaponized boar taint
20:21 Duffer1 i feel there's comedy in there somewhere
20:21 punkman http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect2=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/search-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PALL&RefSrch=yes&Query=PN/6386113
20:21 asciilifeform alpha-androstenol ?
20:21 ozbot United States Patent: 6386113
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20:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 12 @ 0.02999996 = 0.36 BTC [+] {2}
20:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2280 @ 0.00086943 = 1.9823 BTC [+] {5}
20:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 100 @ 0.00460061 = 0.4601 BTC [-] {5}
20:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00088587 = 11.4277 BTC [-]
20:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4010 @ 0.00088706 = 3.5571 BTC [+]
21:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.10700519 = 0.535 BTC [+] {3}
21:05 BingoBoingo Huh, I should have went to this NY DFS hearing.
21:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21600 @ 0.00088852 = 19.192 BTC [+] {2}
21:20 BingoBoingo About 26 minutes into the second session (the one with Mr. LiteCoin) the person chairing the committee suddenly seems to reveal he has more insight into how mining works than any of the witnesses.
21:23 BingoBoingo reeses: Mr Litecoin http://gawker.com/jury-reprimanded-for-laughing-at-alleged-sheep-fucker-r-1510835023
21:23 BingoBoingo *re: Mr Litecoin http://gawker.com/jury-reprimanded-for-laughing-at-alleged-sheep-fucker-r-1510835023
21:30 BingoBoingo Judie Rinearson may be the most informed witness on the Mr Litecoin panel, for suggesting that to run a BTC-Fiat exchange you ought to already have substanitial piles of both.
21:33 BingoBoingo Carol VanCleef and "passing the private keys" might be worse than Mr Litecoin. I though only Cascascius moved BTC by passing private keys around.
21:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 31 @ 0.00424814 = 0.1317 BTC [-] {7}
21:35 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: cascascius is a plot to further holography (and microscopy, and possibly metallurgy) research. with gigantic bounty. you read it here first.
21:36 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I think this is the first time you said so in such a blunt way. Before it seems you pushed people to read between the lines.
21:37 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: everyone is invited to draw his own conclusion. note that physical reality doesn't care about intentions.
21:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00088994 = 15.485 BTC [+]
21:39 BingoBoingo physical reality suggests not eating for a month would be a horrible way to die and people talk about that. A much worse way to die physical reality suggests might be gorging of food for 30 days with an orfice sealed by either cyano acrylate or sutures preventing bowel evacuation.
21:39 BingoBoingo People talk about starvation though
21:40 BingoBoingo No one talks about forced GI obstruction
21:41 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: not to nitpick, but people who actually suffer GI obstruction, when they succumb, it is of starvation (digestive tract then only works in 'reverse gear')
21:42 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Much of the time. Othertimes though they succumb to sepsis due to things tearing. Depends on how low you place the obstruction.
21:43 BingoBoingo Age might be an important factor in this though.
21:45 BingoBoingo Fucking retardation from Mr Litecoin "It only matters reimbursing that dollar amount" That is Usagi fucking losing 90+ % of fund value is a victory logic.
21:46 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: curious - why do you care what goes on in that circus?
21:47 Duffer1 i'm having trouble figuring out which circus is being discussed here
21:47 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I'm following the circus because I think appearing at a later incarnation of one of these hearings might be a fun way to break my pseudonymity.
21:49 BingoBoingo I would like to advance at one of these hearings the position that "bitcoin doesn't much care about you"
21:49 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: like any good story, this one must be 'shown, not told'
21:50 asciilifeform the most educational possible outcome of the circus is: use of bitcoin is banned under penalty of cranked impalement - and continues enthusiastically regardless.
21:51 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Sure. I would like the chance though to add some theater to one of these circuses though. A chance to go on the record seems like it could be fun (even though right nao by being in this channel I am on the most important record atm.)
21:52 BingoBoingo It seems pretty clear though than many people on the NYDFS committee though likely hold more BTC than these witnesses though.
21:53 asciilifeform best propaganda, as always, is 'propaganda by the deed.'
21:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19465 @ 0.0008868 = 17.2616 BTC [-]
21:54 BingoBoingo Witnessing at one of these committees and not doing this retarded thing people who imagine themselves public speaking capable do where they simply read prepared statements verbatim could be educative to prevent future Amir Taaki and Charles Lee situations.
21:55 asciilifeform what are the chances of something other than a scriptable muppet being invited ?
21:55 BingoBoingo I wonder if any of these people speaking has ever had to handle a classroom where one has to anticipate any degree of retardation and ignorance from student questions.
21:56 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I imagine such chances are low. That is why I kind of hold this out as a bit of a dream.
21:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.0008868 = 6.2076 BTC [-]
21:59 BingoBoingo Maybe if Illinois has one of these things I could find myself invited. Illinois is rather similar to NY. Both States are giant wastland with Giant cities occupying a small portion of the waste.
22:00 BingoBoingo Maybe the biggest difference comes from settlers in Illinois having become victims of a native joke and naming Chicago after the region's natural onion stink.
22:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21797 @ 0.00088561 = 19.3036 BTC [-] {2}
22:06 BingoBoingo My big complaint about these hearings is that the only thing close to "I don't know how your assumptions could be so broken that you describe reality with such retarded lenses" seems to be coming out of the fucking regulators on the dias.
22:15 BingoBoingo mike_c: Being 10 minutes out from catching up with the Day's proceedings I imagine Odesk will probably be too slow and too shitty (the second point is never a question with Odesk)
22:16 mike_c you might be surprised. i've hired some odeskers for transcribing before and it worked pretty well. hit and miss though i'm sure.
22:17 BingoBoingo Maybe my world has been small but I have never seen quality work transcibing done by those who are not extremely poor and brown or the other extreme which is incredibly professional court reporters.
22:18 mike_c i'm sure they were poor. i did not pay much.
22:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.43399989 BTC [+]
22:20 BingoBoingo Poor isn't necessarily the greatest problem maybe. Probably desperation might be bigger.
22:21 BingoBoingo THere's a bit of overlap here that makes the right attribute hard to sus out.
22:21 asciilifeform gonna be tricky to hire these folks for speech transcription once they start mining SlaveCoin.
22:23 asciilifeform (a SlaveCoin would, hypothetically, do to human labour what bitcoin did to computing power)
22:24 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Bodypart coins see so simpler though. Value through removing value.
22:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00088994 = 10.6793 BTC [+]
22:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.0028499 = 0.114 BTC [+]
22:27 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: complicated. people would plunder every graveyard they can find before selling their own parts.
22:28 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Bag of preservative with integrating cutting mechanism.
22:28 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: reminds me of an ancient chinese weapon i once read of
22:28 asciilifeform a 'field guillotine'
22:29 asciilifeform sack, attached to a spring-loaded gadget reminiscent of a camera aperture.
22:29 BingoBoingo Kind of what I imagined. Dunno how many ways there are to imagine such a thing though.
22:29 asciilifeform two leap upon the victim, hold him down, while a third operates the snipper.
22:30 asciilifeform then present head to buyer.
22:39 BingoBoingo Dunno how many recyclable parts are actually present in the head though.
22:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1880 @ 0.000091 = 0.1711 BTC [-]
22:43 BingoBoingo 85 minutes into the hearing, saving coins creates a weird dynamic
22:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [MS] 32 @ 0.005 = 0.16 BTC
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23:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.04899999 = 0.784 BTC [+]
23:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.049 = 0.441 BTC [+] {2}
23:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 5 @ 0.04360003 = 0.218 BTC [-] {2}
23:18 herbijudlestoids ;;lastseen vexual
23:18 gribble Error: "lastseen" is not a valid command.
23:18 herbijudlestoids ;last vexual
23:18 herbijudlestoids ;;last vexual
23:18 gribble (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message (1 more message)
23:18 herbijudlestoids ;;last --in vexual
23:18 gribble Error: 'vexual' is not a valid channel.
23:18 herbijudlestoids oh for fucks sake
23:18 herbijudlestoids anyone seen vex?
23:19 Duffer1 ;;seen vexual
23:19 gribble vexual was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 12 hours, 26 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <Vexual> my axe
23:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.049 = 0.833 BTC [+]
23:20 herbijudlestoids thx
23:20 herbijudlestoids he asked me if i could convince a friend of mine to accept bitcoin
23:20 herbijudlestoids now he does
23:20 herbijudlestoids www.larridinya.com
23:28 assbot Listing exchanges on #bitcoin-assets - requested by mariorz
23:28 assbot Exchanges:
23:28 assbot - MPEX: http://mpex.com - IRC handle: mircea_popescu
23:28 assbot - Havelock: https://www.havelockinvestments.com - IRC handle: topace
23:28 assbot - BTCTC: https://btct.co - IRC handle: burnside
23:28 assbot Brokers:
23:28 assbot - CoinBR - https://coinbr.com/about - IRC handle: jurov
23:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4339999 BTC [+]
23:31 BingoBoingo Obama is just phoning it in. This has to be the least relevant SOTU in decades.
23:32 Apocalyptic he's broken some records, that one is not surprising
23:32 BingoBoingo Here's a hint, Americans who work in solar and whose jobs can't be outsourced operate squeegees
23:33 BingoBoingo Apocalyptic: He talks so much about the economy and energy so far. He's pretty powerless nao on those things. The only thing he could actually do without outsourcing to wishful thinking would be to legalize the wacky tobbacky
23:35 BingoBoingo I don't even know how he can talk about immigration reform without rescinding airport rape stations.
23:41 csu lol @ airport rape stations. so true.
23:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 100 @ 0.00311689 = 0.3117 BTC [-]
23:43 herbijudlestoids compare oblabla to this SOTU http://www.eisenhower.archives.gov/all_about_ike/speeches/1953_state_of_the_union.pdf
23:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9859 @ 0.00088935 = 8.7681 BTC [-]
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