| 00:00 |
truffles |
prob |
| 00:00 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24150 @ 0.00083928 = 20.2686 BTC [-] {2} |
| 00:00 |
Vexual |
nah just new money |
| 00:01 |
truffles |
? |
| 00:01 |
Vexual |
well hipsters are the kids of hippies that sold their soul and made some money |
| 00:02 |
truffles |
i was wondering whatever happened to all the hippies |
| 00:02 |
Vexual |
nubbins' showed a gif of the supposedly gone woodie guthrie |
| 00:03 |
truffles |
how does one sell a soul though |
| 00:03 |
Vexual |
cant be done |
| 00:04 |
truffles |
sell own soul? |
| 00:04 |
Vexual |
hippies inventened the butterlfy affect as seen in humanity |
| 00:04 |
Vexual |
you see butterfly tramp stamps, but a sould cant be sold |
| 00:04 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhIrzbhEGvs |
| 00:04 |
ozbot |
Busta Rhymes - Thank You ft. Q-Tip, Kanye West, Lil Wayne - YouTube |
| 00:05 |
truffles |
didnt click |
| 00:05 |
Vexual |
then you've considered butterflies |
| 00:07 |
Vexual |
that unpopular phrase globalisation didnt haven without people moving house |
| 00:07 |
KRS1 |
eh |
| 00:09 |
KRS1 |
hey this song good yo |
| 00:09 |
Vexual |
going back to selling your soul |
| 00:10 |
Vexual |
you're the master of what your soul absorbs |
| 00:10 |
truffles |
there is a term for this |
| 00:11 |
Vexual |
no doubt |
| 00:11 |
truffles |
rhetorical? |
| 00:11 |
Vexual |
:)} |
| 00:16 |
truffles |
where is mr Boingo |
| 00:17 |
Vexual |
u feeling chess? |
| 00:18 |
truffles |
we have a rematch to do |
| 00:18 |
truffles |
i may have to step away based on events in the house ya know |
| 00:19 |
Vexual |
i think bongo is alergic to vodka |
| 00:19 |
truffles |
lol |
| 00:19 |
Vexual |
yah |
| 00:19 |
truffles |
its not for everyone |
| 00:23 |
Vexual |
we serve it warm |
| 00:23 |
Vexual |
but ou know this |
| 00:23 |
truffles |
i only like my tea warm eww |
| 00:25 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC [+] |
| 00:27 |
Vexual |
gin is served with ice, vodka should be at room tmep |
| 00:28 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1120 @ 0.00009501 = 0.1064 BTC [-] {3} |
| 00:28 |
truffles |
it should be how i want it |
| 00:28 |
truffles |
bbl |
| 00:29 |
Vexual |
get me some orange sherbert |
| 00:30 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 8840 @ 0.00009501 = 0.8399 BTC [-] {3} |
| 00:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3173 @ 0.00083924 = 2.6629 BTC [-] |
| 00:33 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25327 @ 0.00083699 = 21.1984 BTC [-] {2} |
| 00:37 |
BingoBoingo |
truffles: I am here nao |
| 00:49 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22998 @ 0.00084193 = 19.3627 BTC [+] {2} |
| 01:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC [+] |
| 01:04 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2000 @ 0.00047496 = 0.9499 BTC [+] {2} |
| 01:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21302 @ 0.00083517 = 17.7908 BTC [-] {2} |
| 01:18 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC [+] |
| 01:19 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 130 @ 0.001 = 0.13 BTC [+] |
| 01:29 |
KRS1 |
whats up with ghash.io.. |
| 01:33 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27750 @ 0.00083468 = 23.1624 BTC [-] |
| 01:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [COG] 6 @ 0.0399499 = 0.2397 BTC [+] {2} |
| 01:42 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5512 @ 0.00083694 = 4.6132 BTC [+] |
| |
~ 25 minutes ~ |
| 02:07 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13988 @ 0.00083694 = 11.7071 BTC [+] |
| |
~ 29 minutes ~ |
| 02:37 |
truffles |
BingoBoingo ping |
| |
~ 17 minutes ~ |
| 02:55 |
KRS1 |
pong |
| 02:56 |
KRS1 |
so do you all think ghash.io is going to harm the network |
| 02:57 |
truffles |
howdy krs1 |
| 03:08 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5301 @ 0.00084124 = 4.4594 BTC [+] |
| 03:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12299 @ 0.00084054 = 10.3378 BTC [-] |
| |
~ 18 minutes ~ |
| 03:28 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32210 @ 0.00084164 = 27.1092 BTC [+] {2} |
| 03:28 |
KRS1 |
how'dy |
| 03:28 |
KRS1 |
i've been expecting a drop, not this rise =/ |
| 03:29 |
KRS1 |
where'd i go wrong in my analysis |
| 03:29 |
truffles |
coinye brought it up with the swag |
| 03:32 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.46079996 = 2.304 BTC [+] {4} |
| 03:33 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.46929999 = 4.693 BTC [+] {4} |
| 03:34 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23250 @ 0.00084175 = 19.5707 BTC [+] {2} |
| 03:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15900 @ 0.00084077 = 13.3682 BTC [-] |
| 03:48 |
mircea_popescu |
bitbet is hysterical, all these volunteer armchair pilots for it. |
| 03:49 |
mircea_popescu |
i am starting to suspect the main reason rich people become assholes is that they eventually get sick of all the poor people who refuse to see the difference. |
| 03:51 |
mircea_popescu |
.d |
| 03:51 |
ozbot |
1418481395.26264 | Next Diff in 767 blocks | Estimated Change: 18.3651% in 4d 8h 17m 7s |
| 03:55 |
truffles |
so ure not saying ure not a complete asshole but on the cusp? |
| 03:57 |
mircea_popescu |
im a fonz, what are you on about. |
| 03:57 |
truffles |
fonz is cool though |
| 03:57 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 54 @ 0.49509632 = 26.7352 BTC [+] {20} |
| 04:01 |
mircea_popescu |
i have no idea what it is, outside of a pulp fiction reference. |
| 04:01 |
Duffer1 |
happy days |
| 04:01 |
mircea_popescu |
so indeed they'd be cool. |
| 04:01 |
mircea_popescu |
( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPPN_gkj_gk ) |
| 04:02 |
truffles |
omg he's never seen it |
| 04:02 |
truffles |
omg |
| 04:03 |
truffles |
well its not that great of a show |
| 04:03 |
truffles |
just watch a few eps |
| 04:03 |
Duffer1 |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4ZGKI8vpcg |
| 04:03 |
ozbot |
Fonzie Jumps the Shark on Happy Days (Episode 5.3) 1977 - YouTube |
| 04:03 |
mircea_popescu |
ol wait, this is the original "jump the shark" show huh ? |
| 04:03 |
Duffer1 |
yep |
| 04:03 |
mircea_popescu |
i take it back, i've nothing to do with that toothy derp. |
| 04:04 |
truffles |
lol |
| 04:04 |
mircea_popescu |
sammy lee you've lied to me! |
| 04:04 |
truffles |
thats just 1 clip |
| 04:05 |
truffles |
he made the jump, whats the derp about |
| 04:06 |
truffles |
so suave |
| 04:08 |
truffles |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHWXAJhmvyU |
| 04:08 |
ozbot |
Mork Meets The Fonz - YouTube |
| 04:08 |
truffles |
robin williams! |
| 04:08 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6455 @ 0.00084077 = 5.4272 BTC [-] |
| 04:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7745 @ 0.00084054 = 6.51 BTC [-] |
| 04:12 |
truffles |
blog topic im interested in, are smart people in general more selfish |
| 04:12 |
truffles |
obv u can include stuff about asses and holes |
| 04:19 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9931 @ 0.00084028 = 8.3448 BTC [-] {2} |
| 04:20 |
deanclkclk |
anyone here who's a money manager? I want to ask something about fractional reserve banking |
| 04:20 |
deanclkclk |
or anyone here who understand franctional reserve banking |
| 04:22 |
mircea_popescu |
go ahead |
| 04:28 |
deanclkclk |
well just looking at a t account..how can fractional reserve banking be inflationary |
| 04:29 |
mircea_popescu |
you'll have to phrase that question better |
| 04:29 |
deanclkclk |
what is loan out (asset to the bank) is always equal to it's liability (deposit)? |
| 04:30 |
mircea_popescu |
what's your definition of "inflationary" ? |
| 04:30 |
deanclkclk |
if the depositor withdraws money ..it comes from the bank reserves |
| 04:30 |
deanclkclk |
inflationary..rising prices |
| 04:31 |
mircea_popescu |
that'd be rising prices. traditionally inflation is defined as that state where the monetary mass increases. |
| 04:31 |
mircea_popescu |
if in 2010 the total volume of payment insturments is 5, and in 2011 it's 6, then you've had a 20% inflation. |
| 04:33 |
deanclkclk |
but, let me ask u this |
| 04:33 |
deanclkclk |
in an investment bank...one which the depositor can't withdraw from his account because, he knows the bank doesn't have it (it's loan out)..that's isn't inflationary |
| 04:34 |
deanclkclk |
but, it is said in a fractional reserve bank...the depositor still has access to his deposit even though it's loan out |
| 04:34 |
deanclkclk |
that doesn't make any sense |
| 04:34 |
deanclkclk |
because if deposit is 9 == loan 8 + reserve 1 |
| 04:34 |
mircea_popescu |
well, you've constructed it so it doesn't make any sense. take a better example : say i run a whorehouse and you bring me your wife. then one day you want to have sex. just because i've sent her to work the streets of mexico doesn't mean you can't have sex, |
| 04:35 |
mircea_popescu |
i'll just hook you up with some other dude's wife. |
| 04:35 |
mircea_popescu |
am i running fractional reserve whorehouse ? no. do you still get to have sex, even if your own wife is out ? sure. |
| 04:35 |
deanclkclk |
if the depositor withdraws from his account ...how would that show on the T account? |
| 04:35 |
deanclkclk |
says all his 9 dollars |
| 04:35 |
mircea_popescu |
ib just takes a liquidity loan. |
| 04:36 |
deanclkclk |
huh? |
| 04:37 |
mircea_popescu |
myeah. best i can tell, you've painted yourself in a corner trying to understand this and now nothing makes sense. |
| 04:37 |
deanclkclk |
I understand your whorehouse analogy |
| 04:37 |
mircea_popescu |
time to re-examine your priors. |
| 04:37 |
deanclkclk |
well if someone can show me how that would reflect on a T account..it would make a whole lotta sense |
| 04:38 |
mircea_popescu |
okay, fair enough. |
| 04:38 |
deanclkclk |
I'm just wondering how that would show |
| 04:38 |
mircea_popescu |
central bank creates 10 bucks. pushes 2 each to 5 commercial banks. the banks loan out 50 bucks each, on the grounds that they are required by cb to keep 10% in reserves. |
| 04:38 |
deanclkclk |
banks == liability (deposit $10) and assets (loan $9 & reserve $1) |
| 04:38 |
deanclkclk |
that balances |
| 04:39 |
mircea_popescu |
now, the monetary mass at the cb level is 100, and the monetary mass at the cb level is 500 |
| 04:39 |
mircea_popescu |
that's a 400% inflation. |
| 04:39 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00084234 = 1.811 BTC [+] {2} |
| 04:39 |
mircea_popescu |
meh i cocked the math up. lemme redo. |
| 04:39 |
deanclkclk |
yeah but, just listen |
| 04:39 |
deanclkclk |
listen |
| 04:39 |
mircea_popescu |
kay. |
| 04:39 |
deanclkclk |
just an simple example |
| 04:39 |
deanclkclk |
in this illustration |
| 04:39 |
deanclkclk |
banks == liability (deposit $10) and assets (loan $9 & reserve $1) |
| 04:40 |
deanclkclk |
that's their T account right |
| 04:40 |
deanclkclk |
the loan out $9 |
| 04:40 |
mircea_popescu |
you don't get to use the assets in there. |
| 04:40 |
deanclkclk |
so what if..the depositor wants to withdraw his 10 dollars |
| 04:40 |
mircea_popescu |
their liability is 10 and the assets 1. |
| 04:40 |
deanclkclk |
how would that show on the banks T account? |
| 04:41 |
deanclkclk |
yeah the 1 dollar is their current asset |
| 04:41 |
deanclkclk |
I get that |
| 04:41 |
mircea_popescu |
this is a purely accounting q, but : |
| 04:41 |
mircea_popescu |
step 1 : deposit 10, loan 9, reserve 1. |
| 04:41 |
mircea_popescu |
step 2 : withraw the 10 : deposit 0, loan 9, reserve 1, owed 10 to liquidity provider |
| 04:42 |
mircea_popescu |
this bank now owes the 10 it owed before, except not to its original depositor. |
| 04:42 |
mircea_popescu |
nothing much changed. |
| 04:44 |
mircea_popescu |
note that accounting generally is just a convention, and it may be uniquely adequate or uniquely inadequate to resolve any factual problems. in some formulations inflation is opaque to accounting, in some others quite transparent. this doesn't make inflation go away, even if it's very tempting for all governments historically to pretend so. |
| 04:45 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7392 @ 0.00084236 = 6.2267 BTC [+] |
| 04:48 |
deanclkclk |
ok |
| 04:48 |
deanclkclk |
hmmm |
| 04:50 |
deanclkclk |
yes I know mircea_popescu but, I'm just wondering how would that show on the account |
| 04:50 |
deanclkclk |
but, with a deposit being 0...wouldn't that cause the T account to not be balanced? |
| 04:51 |
deanclkclk |
liabilties are greater than an asset |
| 04:51 |
mircea_popescu |
nope. you still owe 10, but not to depositors anymore, to liquidity provider instead. |
| 04:51 |
mircea_popescu |
just as balanced as it was. |
| 04:52 |
mircea_popescu |
it goes from liabilities 10 (depositors) to liabilities 10 (government) or w/e |
| 04:55 |
deanclkclk |
ohh so the liquidity provider funds the 10 dollars to pay back the depositor? |
| 04:55 |
mircea_popescu |
well yes |
| 04:55 |
deanclkclk |
liquidity provider in this case will be the central bank |
| 04:56 |
mircea_popescu |
someone will have to, as the 9 loaned out are loaned on terms and can't (in this example we use) be recalled. |
| 04:56 |
mircea_popescu |
in practice obviously some mix will be implemented. |
| 04:56 |
mircea_popescu |
it isn't the central bank in a functioning economy |
| 04:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11550 @ 0.00084219 = 9.7273 BTC [-] |
| 04:56 |
mircea_popescu |
this is why the libor originally existed : so banks can liquidify each oth\er |
| 04:56 |
mircea_popescu |
the interest they settled on becoming the "fair" interest for everyone, smaller players |
| 04:57 |
deanclkclk |
ohh ok |
| 04:57 |
mircea_popescu |
if it is the central bank you have by any sensible definition a central command economy like the soviets, and even discussing "banks" is just a masquerade |
| 04:58 |
deanclkclk |
ok |
| 04:59 |
deanclkclk |
but, if the banks are funding themselves..would that not increase the total stock of money? |
| 05:00 |
mircea_popescu |
well, how ? |
| 05:00 |
deanclkclk |
because, if bank A give to Bank B...bank A is decreasing it's money stock and giving it to Bank B |
| 05:00 |
mircea_popescu |
so... |
| 05:07 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17311 @ 0.00083963 = 14.5348 BTC [-] {2} |
| 05:08 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00083961 = 13.8536 BTC [-] |
| 05:17 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 370 @ 0.001 = 0.37 BTC [+] |
| |
~ 15 minutes ~ |
| 05:33 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3213 @ 0.00083961 = 2.6977 BTC [-] |
| 05:43 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4316 @ 0.00083468 = 3.6025 BTC [-] |
| 05:52 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22133 @ 0.0008367 = 18.5187 BTC [+] |
| 06:01 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31799 @ 0.00083456 = 26.5382 BTC [-] {2} |
| 06:02 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56888 @ 0.00083424 = 47.4582 BTC [-] {2} |
| 06:03 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC [+] |
| 06:07 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 24 @ 0.02520706 = 0.605 BTC [-] {3} |
| 06:09 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.46010011 BTC [-] |
| |
~ 16 minutes ~ |
| 06:25 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC [+] |
| 06:36 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1712 @ 0.00083386 = 1.4276 BTC [-] |
| 06:37 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25188 @ 0.0008331 = 20.9841 BTC [-] {2} |
| 06:50 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.04999999 = 5 BTC [+] |
| 06:59 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7259 @ 0.00083687 = 6.0748 BTC [+] {2} |
| 07:08 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 156 @ 0.0046 = 0.7176 BTC [+] {2} |
| |
~ 36 minutes ~ |
| 07:45 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.00083899 = 10.0259 BTC [+] {2} |
| |
~ 1 hours 10 minutes ~ |
| 08:55 |
kleeck0 |
So, I'm confused. Should I stop mining on ghash.io? |
| 08:56 |
Duffer1 |
yep |
| 08:56 |
kleeck0 |
lol |
| 08:56 |
kleeck0 |
Joking, joking. |
| 08:56 |
Duffer1 |
oh hehe |
| 08:56 |
kleeck0 |
Reddit is ablaze with STOP DAT GHASH! |
| 08:57 |
Duffer1 |
good |
| 08:57 |
Duffer1 |
reddit has it's uses |
| 08:57 |
taub_ |
some hard movement on gox |
| 09:00 |
mircea_popescu |
what's the problem with ghash ? |
| 09:00 |
Duffer1 |
too many of the gigahashes |
| 09:00 |
mircea_popescu |
o |
| 09:01 |
mircea_popescu |
i guess this explains why elegius actually found a coupla blocks today |
| 09:01 |
mircea_popescu |
hasn't been seen since... spring ? |
| 09:01 |
Duffer1 |
42+% of the network + attempted double spends on gambling sites |
| 09:02 |
mircea_popescu |
o seriously ? which ? |
| 09:02 |
mircea_popescu |
seems improbable |
| 09:02 |
Duffer1 |
let me find the link |
| 09:03 |
Duffer1 |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=327767.0 |
| 09:03 |
ozbot |
GHash.IO and double-spending against BetCoin Dice |
| 09:03 |
mircea_popescu |
but that's... october ?! |
| 09:03 |
mircea_popescu |
Like a month ago, in September I witnessed a lot of double-spending against BetCoin Dice. I |
| 09:03 |
mircea_popescu |
herp. ghash has likely 0 to do with it. |
| 09:04 |
Duffer1 |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=327767.100 |
| 09:04 |
mircea_popescu |
clueless dice site clone guy can't read/doesn't understand what's going on |
| 09:04 |
mircea_popescu |
wasn't btc guild 49% back in march ? |
| 09:05 |
mircea_popescu |
before their pliant attitude to the -dev chan pretty much cost them their business ? |
| 09:05 |
Duffer1 |
i think they got close ya |
| 09:14 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14791 @ 0.00084011 = 12.4261 BTC [+] |
| 09:29 |
KRS1 |
i think they did something about it..ghash.io isnt maybe |
| 09:30 |
mircea_popescu |
in principle no pool should be over 40% |
| 09:30 |
mircea_popescu |
course reddit is about as likely to change weather patterns as it is likely to have any impact on this matter, but naywya. |
| 09:33 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11095 @ 0.00083988 = 9.3185 BTC [-] {2} |
| 09:47 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 140 @ 0.0046 = 0.644 BTC [+] |
| 09:51 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00083945 = 11.2486 BTC [-] {2} |
| 09:55 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4350 @ 0.00083897 = 3.6495 BTC [-] |
| 09:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 556 @ 0.001 = 0.556 BTC [+] |
| 10:09 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.02559 = 0.1024 BTC [+] |
| |
~ 21 minutes ~ |
| 10:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00083901 = 12.6691 BTC [+] {2} |
| 10:33 |
Duffer1 |
http://www.coindesk.com/worlds-first-insured-bitcoin-storage-service-launches-uk/ |
| 10:33 |
Duffer1 |
Lloyds of London |
| 10:33 |
Duffer1 |
<---called it |
| 10:34 |
asciilifeform |
microscope hammer. |
| 10:35 |
KRS1 |
why is not my cardano insured? INFIDELS |
| 10:37 |
mike_c |
whoa, they use "deep cold storage". that sounds better. |
| 10:38 |
mike_c |
biz idea: "super-deep frozen storage". |
| 10:38 |
Troic_ |
the policy sucks, claims calculated in BTC; if rate has gone down, but GBP at insure date if rate has gone up. |
| 10:39 |
the20year |
i wonder waht their rate is |
| 10:39 |
Troic_ |
2% of total cover, in GBP |
| 10:39 |
Duffer1 |
you pay more to insure at x value of fiat |
| 10:40 |
Duffer1 |
dunno what their policy is if/when it goes below that.. |
| 10:40 |
the20year |
fiat insurance is 2% or higher from Lloyds? |
| 10:41 |
Duffer1 |
er nm i suppose that wouldn't matter for theft insurance |
| 10:42 |
the20year |
So ghash is at 42% |
| 10:48 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10045 @ 0.00083989 = 8.4367 BTC [+] {2} |
| 10:49 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3955 @ 0.00083882 = 3.3175 BTC [-] |
| 10:54 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21750 @ 0.00084168 = 18.3065 BTC [+] |
| 10:55 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00084219 = 1.9791 BTC [+] |
| 11:05 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 4000 @ 0.001 = 4 BTC [+] |
| 11:06 |
KRS1 |
is it better to have deep or cold storage |
| 11:06 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.46200116 = 0.924 BTC [+] {2} |
| 11:06 |
KRS1 |
like..if I have a wallet, I need it to be deep for fat stacks, but if its cold I can't exactly whip it out |
| 11:16 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16546 @ 0.00084232 = 13.937 BTC [+] {2} |
| 11:28 |
mjoiii |
/join #bitcoin |
| 11:29 |
mike_c |
that's a big problem with bitcoin. you can't roll up a fat stack with a rubber band and slap them on the table. |
| 11:30 |
Duffer1 |
paper wallets, 1 satoshi each |
| 11:30 |
Duffer1 |
biggest stack of $$ you've ever seen |
| 11:30 |
asciilifeform |
there's a serious problem with the horseless carriage - you can't whip its arse to make it go faster. |
| 11:31 |
mike_c |
totally agreed! that's why horse races are more exciting than nascar. |
| 11:31 |
Duffer1 |
watching water boil is more exciting than nascar |
| 11:32 |
pankkake |
and why ponygirl races are more exciting than horse races |
| 11:32 |
asciilifeform |
now if only horses could catch fire and engulf the audience in an inferno. |
| 11:32 |
Duffer1 |
i'd watch that |
| 11:32 |
mike_c |
well, they do trip occasionally and then got shot right out on the track. |
| 11:32 |
mike_c |
*get |
| 11:37 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.4620505 = 0.9241 BTC [+] {2} |
| 11:39 |
mircea_popescu |
fun fact : the us has been quietly returning gold to germany |
| 11:39 |
mircea_popescu |
except... well... it doesn't have the stamps |
| 11:39 |
mircea_popescu |
"it had to be melted for transport" says the official story. |
| 11:40 |
pankkake |
filled with tungsten? |
| 11:40 |
mircea_popescu |
i doubt that. |
| 11:41 |
pankkake |
yeah they will check |
| 11:41 |
Duffer1 |
is this news significant? |
| 11:41 |
mircea_popescu |
Duffer1 well... depends how much you've been following the precious metal wranglings |
| 11:42 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00084227 = 1.7688 BTC [-] |
| 11:42 |
Duffer1 |
ah ya i haven't followed metals at all |
| 11:43 |
mike_c |
not having the stamps is interesting. yet another confirmation that the fed plays games with other countries deposits. |
| 11:43 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18550 @ 0.00084134 = 15.6069 BTC [-] {2} |
| 11:43 |
mircea_popescu |
mike_c course there's not really enough gold on deposit to be doing it |
| 11:43 |
mircea_popescu |
so unless china graciously decided to lend... or else maybe russia ? |
| 11:43 |
mircea_popescu |
or japan. india isn't, and there just aren't that many folks with gold |
| 11:44 |
mike_c |
no way china would lend us gold |
| 11:44 |
mircea_popescu |
seeing how it's worthless and not particularly important in modern finance etc. |
| 11:44 |
mircea_popescu |
why not ? it's lending everything else... |
| 11:44 |
mike_c |
that's why. gold is the only thing it hoards. |
| 11:44 |
mike_c |
at least until it starts hoarding btc |
| 11:44 |
mircea_popescu |
nope |
| 11:44 |
mircea_popescu |
ip is the only thing it hoards. |
| 11:45 |
mircea_popescu |
and as the inept leadership oif the us has been giving them absolutely all the techs in the most incredible transfer of wealth/spoliage in human history, |
| 11:45 |
Duffer1 |
but dat labor so cheap |
| 11:45 |
mike_c |
it collects ip. hoarding would indicate it is creating ip and not sharing. |
| 11:45 |
mircea_popescu |
i can't imagine why they'd care about lending a little gold so various us idiots can save a little face. |
| 11:45 |
mircea_popescu |
o, it's not sharing. |
| 11:46 |
mircea_popescu |
you don't get to see what it develops on top of what it loots from us corps. |
| 11:46 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27200 @ 0.00084246 = 22.9149 BTC [+] {2} |
| 11:46 |
mike_c |
invisible ip? what are they doing that is so cool? |
| 11:47 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 20719 @ 0.001 = 20.719 BTC [+] |
| 11:47 |
mike_c |
they can keep the cheap kewpie doll ip. |
| 11:47 |
mircea_popescu |
they're putting a guy on the moon. |
| 11:48 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, THEIR nsa isn't being riddled with fuckwith trannies that turncoat, so you don';t really know what they are doing. |
| 11:49 |
kakobrekla |
http://dangerousminds.net/comments/humble_chinese_billionaire_has_designed_the_perfect_template_for_your_next |
| 11:49 |
ozbot |
Dangerous Minds |
| 11:50 |
asciilifeform |
considering the inclination of usg to run things at a loss (so long as said loss can be pawned off on some chump), |
| 11:50 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 98 @ 0.00299668 = 0.2937 BTC [+] |
| 11:50 |
asciilifeform |
perhaps the gold was 'borrowed' from a neutron bombardment reactor at sandia or somesuch. |
| 11:52 |
mircea_popescu |
in these qtys ? |
| 11:52 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla omfg, rpietilla is chinese |
| 11:52 |
kakobrekla |
lol |
| 11:52 |
KRS1 |
thought he was espanish |
| 11:53 |
kakobrekla |
enorwegian afaik |
| 11:53 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.00299668 = 0.1648 BTC [+] |
| 11:53 |
mircea_popescu |
he's eweirdo, wherever those are |
| 11:53 |
mircea_popescu |
rhutenia or latvia or somesuch. kaspiar. |
| 11:54 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla anyway, that's kind-of culture shock. the chinese do that sort of thing in chinese all the time. very self-stroking culture, it's not quite as wow as in european terms |
| 11:55 |
kakobrekla |
myea |
| 12:03 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00084128 = 1.304 BTC [-] |
| 12:11 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 150 @ 0.00464999 = 0.6975 BTC [+] {4} |
| 12:12 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 61 @ 0.00465 = 0.2837 BTC [+] {2} |
| 12:16 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.00083876 = 9.9393 BTC [-] |
| 12:17 |
benkay` |
;;gettrust benkay |
| 12:17 |
gribble |
WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay` to user benkay: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay`&dest=benkay | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=benkay | Rated since: Sun Mar 10 13:57:45 2013 |
| 12:17 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.462011 BTC [-] |
| 12:21 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.04999999 = 0.45 BTC [+] |
| 12:23 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00298191 = 2.9819 BTC [-] {10} |
| 12:31 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 12 @ 0.10035833 = 1.2043 BTC [-] {6} |
| 12:43 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.02559 = 0.1791 BTC [+] |
| 12:46 |
deadweasel |
These nice new cheap samsung monitors are less appealing now |
| 12:46 |
deadweasel |
http://phunukieuviet.vn/phap-luat/cong-nhan-dung-do-voi-bao-ve-samsung-thai-nguyen-8-nguoi-chet.html |
| 12:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26750 @ 0.00083876 = 22.4368 BTC [-] |
| 12:49 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 625 @ 0.000475 = 0.2969 BTC [+] |
| 12:59 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.0008391 = 10.1112 BTC [+] {2} |
| 13:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [MS] 15266 @ 0.005 = 76.33 BTC {4} |
| 13:02 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46500 @ 0.00083925 = 39.0251 BTC [+] |
| 13:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [MS] 60 @ 0.005 = 0.3 BTC {2} |
| 13:03 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [MS] 100 @ 0.005 = 0.5 BTC |
| 13:12 |
Duffer1 |
100,000 units of mintspare now up for sale on havelock |
| 13:12 |
PLambert |
Oh look, MS is now available on Havelock. Who is excited to lose their money? |
| 13:12 |
PLambert |
bah, you beat me by a second :( |
| 13:13 |
Duffer1 |
ha man i tried to warn them in that thread, hopefully that 160 is all they sell |
| 13:13 |
PLambert |
what, people are actaully buying that shit? |
| 13:13 |
Duffer1 |
havelock trying to fake volume |
| 13:13 |
PLambert |
maybe it is the operator trying to make themself look more presentable |
| 13:14 |
PLambert |
bah, you beat me by a second again :( |
| 13:14 |
Duffer1 |
hehe |
| 13:14 |
Duffer1 |
no i expect they'll sell out because... history like repeating itself |
| 13:15 |
topace |
there's no faking volume |
| 13:15 |
PLambert |
they are asking for way too much money and giving way too little in return, and their business model is easily copied |
| 13:15 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 500 @ 0.00048 = 0.24 BTC [+] |
| 13:15 |
PLambert |
volume is easy to fake |
| 13:16 |
Duffer1 |
and the original could jsut start accepting bitcoins themselves and kill off all competition QUITE easily |
| 13:16 |
PLambert |
just need a couple bitcoins, send to stooge's account, buy shares, repeat |
| 13:16 |
PLambert |
what is the original? |
| 13:16 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4380 @ 0.00083926 = 3.676 BTC [+] {2} |
| 13:16 |
topace |
real shares being bought with real bitcoins != fake volume |
| 13:17 |
PLambert |
can you tell the difference between real and fake? |
| 13:17 |
jborkl |
wait, so they buy old cellphones for bitcoins |
| 13:17 |
jborkl |
uggh |
| 13:17 |
PLambert |
jborkl, yeah and "fix them and resell" |
| 13:17 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [MS] 4000 @ 0.005 = 20 BTC |
| 13:17 |
PLambert |
see, there is some fake volume? |
| 13:18 |
Duffer1 |
R.I.P. 20 btc, you will be missed |
| 13:18 |
topace |
PLambert: why do you think thats "fake" ? |
| 13:18 |
jborkl |
so, when the exchange rate rapes them - they are out of business |
| 13:18 |
PLambert |
who has 20 btc and is dumb enough to fall for this? |
| 13:18 |
topace |
real bitcoins used to buy real shares |
| 13:18 |
topace |
im watching the server right now |
| 13:18 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [MS] 50 @ 0.005 = 0.25 BTC |
| 13:18 |
topace |
and i wrote the damn platform |
| 13:18 |
topace |
there's no way to "fake" trades |
| 13:19 |
PLambert |
I am not saying they are fake trades, just that they are insider trades |
| 13:19 |
topace |
"[13:16:11] <PLambert> see, there is some fake volume?" |
| 13:20 |
jborkl |
topace, do you know how they plan to resell? are they shipping them overseas to Africa or selling them for BTC again? |
| 13:21 |
PLambert |
topace, I am not saying that the trade is not hapenning, just guessing that it is an insider |
| 13:21 |
mike_c |
selling them on ebay |
| 13:21 |
Duffer1 |
i believe 'volume' is being used here to mean: "puppet accounts using btc to provide the illusion of demand" |
| 13:21 |
topace |
jborkl: im not involved with the actual listings anymore |
| 13:21 |
mike_c |
for lolz: |
| 13:21 |
mike_c |
https://www.havelockinvestments.com/reportdownload.php?id=54 |
| 13:21 |
PLambert |
duffer1: right, puppet is a good word for what I meant |
| 13:24 |
Duffer1 |
topace i'm not saying that is what's happening, i have no idea, that's just my overly cynical ravings talking |
| 13:31 |
Duffer1 |
meanwhile at ActM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=297503.msg4399315#msg4399315 |
| 13:37 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [MS] 50 @ 0.005 = 0.25 BTC |
| |
~ 20 minutes ~ |
| 13:57 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.49799993 = 2.988 BTC [+] {3} |
| 13:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.0044332 = 0.2039 BTC [-] {2} |
| 14:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04999999 = 0.25 BTC [+] |
| 14:04 |
ThickAsThieves |
https://help.overstock.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5794/c/4 |
| 14:04 |
ozbot |
Bitcoin |
| 14:04 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1utcz6/bitcoin_payments_are_now_live_on_overstockcom/ |
| 14:04 |
ozbot |
Bitcoin payments are now live on Overstock.com : Bitcoin |
| 14:05 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [COG.F2] 1 @ 0.575 BTC [+] |
| 14:05 |
ThickAsThieves |
partnered with coinbase on it |
| 14:05 |
Duffer1 |
wow that got that done a lot faster than i thought they would |
| 14:08 |
ThickAsThieves |
they were waiting for a dip to buy in first |
| 14:08 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5496 @ 0.00083958 = 4.6143 BTC [+] |
| 14:09 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [MS] 22 @ 0.005 = 0.11 BTC |
| 14:09 |
ThickAsThieves |
IPO! |
| 14:10 |
TomServo |
Anyone ever used cashintocoins.com? |
| 14:11 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [MS] 60 @ 0.005 = 0.3 BTC |
| 14:18 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2014/01/stampact/?cid=16778634 |
| 14:18 |
ozbot |
Could a Civil War-Era Law Stamp Out Bitcoin? | Wired Enterprise | Wired.com |
| 14:18 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [MS] 228 @ 0.005 = 1.14 BTC |
| 14:18 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.00084197 = 10.4825 BTC [+] {2} |
| 14:18 |
ThickAsThieves |
"This 152-year-old law forbids any American from issuing a check, note, or token that’s worth less than $1" |
| 14:18 |
ThickAsThieves |
guess we need satoshi dollar parity |
| 14:19 |
Duffer1 |
lul :/ |
| 14:19 |
ThickAsThieves |
to the bitmobile! |
| 14:20 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [MS] 240 @ 0.005 = 1.2 BTC |
| 14:22 |
mircea_popescu |
this 226 year old constitution forbids any law from forbiding stupid shit |
| 14:22 |
mircea_popescu |
so problem solved |
| 14:22 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC [+] |
| 14:24 |
mircea_popescu |
.d |
| 14:24 |
ozbot |
1418481395.26264 | Next Diff in 680 blocks | Estimated Change: 19.6216% in 3d 18h 45m 1s |
| 14:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10750 @ 0.00084161 = 9.0473 BTC [-] |
| 14:26 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00084161 = 7.9111 BTC [-] |
| 14:33 |
KRS1 |
I used cashintocoins.com a few times- very good service. |
| |
~ 18 minutes ~ |
| 14:51 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.04999999 = 1.5 BTC [+] |
| 14:52 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02559 = 0.128 BTC [+] |
| 14:54 |
the20year |
Anyone want to take a look at the revised rentalstarter business plan/disclosure? |
| 14:54 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16550 @ 0.00084252 = 13.9437 BTC [+] |
| 14:54 |
mike_c |
sure |
| 14:55 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [MS] 29 @ 0.005 = 0.145 BTC |
| |
~ 20 minutes ~ |
| 15:15 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00084252 = 5.7291 BTC [+] {2} |
| 15:22 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12495 @ 0.0008415 = 10.5145 BTC [-] {2} |
| 15:24 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12745 @ 0.0008415 = 10.7249 BTC [-] |
| 15:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31505 @ 0.00084049 = 26.4796 BTC [-] |
| 15:27 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83780 @ 0.00083936 = 70.3216 BTC [-] {5} |
| 15:35 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.001 = 0.2 BTC [+] |
| 15:36 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13237 @ 0.00084253 = 11.1526 BTC [+] {2} |
| 15:36 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [MS] 30 @ 0.005 = 0.15 BTC |
| 15:37 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 14 @ 0.02559 = 0.3583 BTC [+] |
| 15:39 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3136 @ 0.00009449 = 0.2963 BTC [-] |
| 15:51 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26500 @ 0.00084118 = 22.2913 BTC [-] |
| 15:52 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00083876 = 1.8453 BTC [-] |
| 15:56 |
mike_c |
is mpex taking wire transfers now? blockchain isn't showing any deposits since november. |
| 15:57 |
mike_c |
quiet month i guess |
| 16:08 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.04999999 = 2 BTC [+] |
| 16:08 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.02619899 = 0.2882 BTC [+] |
| 16:09 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [MS] 60 @ 0.005 = 0.3 BTC |
| 16:12 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 35 @ 0.04999999 = 1.75 BTC [+] |
| 16:23 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC [+] |
| |
~ 17 minutes ~ |
| 16:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22758 @ 0.00084267 = 19.1775 BTC [+] {2} |
| 16:43 |
benkay` |
http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/72428827671/another-massive-flawless-patching-noone-shares-the |
| 16:43 |
ozbot |
Another massive flawless patching. Noone shares the excitement. - DevOps Reactions |
| 16:44 |
pankkake |
devops is still a thing? |
| 16:45 |
mircea_popescu |
http://25.media.tumblr.com/f097a5e09b34362dd6cf21e0da6799b8/tumblr_mygm5duF6t1sd7fomo1_1280.jpg |
| 16:46 |
mircea_popescu |
"now where did i park again ?! maybe it was in the pink ?" |
| 16:46 |
benkay` |
us management didn't turn over overnight, pankkake. still gotta deal with the derps. |
| 16:46 |
benkay` |
in the meantime, it's an acceptable shorthand for a whole buncha shit. |
| 16:49 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 20 @ 0.02619899 = 0.524 BTC [+] |
| 16:55 |
KRS1 |
nice send moar pr0ns and dtng |
| 16:55 |
KRS1 |
lel definately in the pink |
| 17:01 |
mircea_popescu |
http://31.media.tumblr.com/9d8187023d73a491c19ff1f8da809ae4/tumblr_mxzpwdAw8X1s0yaxoo1_1280.jpg |
| 17:01 |
mircea_popescu |
buda, of course, is romanian for toilet |
| 17:02 |
mike_c |
speaking of virtual reality, i tried an oculus rift for the first time recently. mindblowing. |
| 17:03 |
KRS1 |
Mmmm those are the eastern/European women i love so much. |
| 17:03 |
KRS1 |
I think I need to move to somewhere in Europe. |
| 17:04 |
KRS1 |
Probably Poland. Their womens look delicious. |
| 17:04 |
mircea_popescu |
prolly serbia is the cheapest atm. |
| 17:05 |
mircea_popescu |
kinda funny to see women that look like women declared "eastern european". |
| 17:05 |
mircea_popescu |
you know us chicks would look exactly the same if you made them walk everywhere and cook. |
| 17:05 |
mircea_popescu |
and they did back when you did. |
| 17:05 |
KRS1 |
that oculus looks badass |
| 17:06 |
BingoBoingo |
Right now I'd lean towards serbia over Poland for the weather. |
| 17:06 |
KRS1 |
Womens who look like that are probably of Euro descent. Most people in the U.S. are of immigrant descent. |
| 17:06 |
mircea_popescu |
serbia isn't big enough to have a weather |
| 17:06 |
mircea_popescu |
KRS1 ie, german. |
| 17:06 |
KRS1 |
Except for Aborigine women..ew. |
| 17:08 |
Vexual |
yeah but give an east berlin chick a club and she'll just start dancing |
| 17:08 |
KRS1 |
Aboriginal womenz http://tinyurl.com/omejnqk |
| 17:08 |
KRS1 |
:X |
| 17:08 |
KRS1 |
..and that chick with the red hair is considered hawt there. |
| 17:11 |
Vexual |
http://images.bwbx.io/cms/2014-01-08/covertrail03_630.jpg real newspaper men still exist |
| 17:12 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00084239 = 9.2663 BTC [-] |
| 17:12 |
benkay` |
nice, vex. |
| 17:13 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00083997 = 12.0956 BTC [-] |
| 17:15 |
KRS1 |
My last g/f was Polish-ish. She had greyblue eyes and very straight blondish-brown hair..if this is how Europen women mostly look I must go. There is no other type of woman for me. |
| 17:16 |
mircea_popescu |
i think europeans are mostly brunette. |
| 17:17 |
mircea_popescu |
course, if you stick to german lands... |
| 17:23 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35850 @ 0.00083895 = 30.0764 BTC [-] {4} |
| 17:25 |
Vexual |
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Venus_de_Lespugue_%28replica%29.jpg/600px-Venus_de_Lespugue_%28replica%29.jpg |
| 17:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9090 @ 0.00083692 = 7.6076 BTC [-] {2} |
| 17:28 |
Vexual |
it's amazing what an ice age can do |
| 17:28 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
| 17:28 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 150 @ 0.001 = 0.15 BTC [+] |
| 17:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00084367 = 7.593 BTC [+] |
| 17:38 |
KRS1 |
Germany it is! |
| 17:39 |
KRS1 |
Brunettes...pubes..its like the black hole..can't go down there..not down with that. |
| 17:40 |
KRS1 |
I just love the round-robin discussion topic nature of IRC. |
| |
~ 21 minutes ~ |
| 18:01 |
martjoh |
Hello everyone |
| 18:03 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2199 @ 0.00083798 = 1.8427 BTC [-] |
| 18:03 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 120 @ 0.00298649 = 0.3584 BTC [+] {3} |
| 18:03 |
mike_c |
hello |
| 18:04 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.00299699 = 0.1648 BTC [+] |
| 18:05 |
benkay |
what brings you to -assets, martjoh? |
| 18:07 |
nubbins` |
hi |
| 18:07 |
nubbins` |
so i've decided to throw some money away |
| 18:08 |
Vexual |
solar powered mining nubs? |
| 18:09 |
nubbins` |
nah. just listed a rare casascius coin on ebay, starting bid $3.8k |
| 18:09 |
nubbins` |
(HEH) |
| 18:09 |
nubbins` |
likely will lose listing fees |
| 18:09 |
martjoh |
benkay, I was referred and i would love just to check it out |
| 18:12 |
benkay |
referred by whom, martjoh? what topics pique your interest? |
| 18:16 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 14 @ 0.02505687 = 0.3508 BTC [-] {3} |
| 18:28 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 168 @ 0.002997 = 0.5035 BTC [+] |
| 18:28 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 65 @ 0.003 = 0.195 BTC [-] {3} |
| 18:32 |
kakobrekla |
http://www.wired.com/business/2014/01/overstock-bitcoin-live/ |
| 18:32 |
ozbot |
The Grand Experiment Goes Live: Overstock.com Is Now Accepting Bitcoins | Wired Business | Wired.com |
| 18:32 |
kakobrekla |
dunno im prolly late anyway |
| 18:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27851 @ 0.00083821 = 23.345 BTC [+] {3} |
| 18:35 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64013 @ 0.00084401 = 54.0276 BTC [+] {3} |
| 18:36 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 187 @ 0.0008454 = 0.1581 BTC [+] |
| 18:38 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3549 @ 0.0008434 = 2.9932 BTC [-] |
| 18:41 |
BingoBoingo |
kakobrekla: Such a shame Roger Ver was so readily displaced as the used electronics BTC Jesus |
| 18:43 |
kakobrekla |
heh |
| 18:48 |
nubbins` |
thinking about putting linux on a touchscreen netbook for my mother. distro recommendations? |
| 18:48 |
nubbins` |
thinking ubuntu or mint, not sure about touch support in either |
| 18:49 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26250 @ 0.00083651 = 21.9584 BTC [-] |
| 18:49 |
PLambert |
isn't android a linux version made for touch screens? |
| 18:52 |
nubbins` |
after a fashion |
| 18:54 |
BingoBoingo |
nubbins`: Ubuntu isn't bad for such uses so long as someone isn't betting their life on the machine |
| 18:55 |
nubbins` |
nah, just casual use |
| 18:55 |
nubbins` |
she's in her 60s |
| 18:58 |
benkay |
just get her an apple, nubbins`. you'll be so much less burdened with tech support... |
| 18:58 |
nubbins` |
i'd love to, she doesn't want to spend the $$ |
| 18:58 |
nubbins` |
her last netbook was $300 and lasted 4 years |
| 18:59 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17987 @ 0.00083651 = 15.0463 BTC [-] |
| 18:59 |
PLambert |
I thought Ubuntu was releasing a mobile version soon, that would imply they are trying to support touchscreens? |
| 19:00 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7136 @ 0.00083497 = 5.9583 BTC [-] |
| 19:02 |
nubbins` |
apparently ubuntu supports touch |
| 19:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58500 @ 0.00083385 = 48.7802 BTC [-] {2} |
| 19:08 |
BingoBoingo |
nubbins`: Use lenovo x120e's are running $150-300 and do great with most Linux and BSd distros |
| 19:09 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: problem with ancient laptops is the almost total impossibility of finding a working battery. |
| 19:09 |
nubbins` |
^ |
| 19:09 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: These aren't ancient. |
| 19:09 |
asciilifeform |
>2 yrs. or so. |
| 19:09 |
twizt |
lenovo towers are great |
| 19:09 |
nubbins` |
BingoBoingo: will look into that, thanks |
| 19:09 |
asciilifeform |
about the shelf life of Li ion cell. |
| 19:10 |
twizt |
some people are all about apple, im all about lenovo haha |
| 19:10 |
BingoBoingo |
Mine's just around 2 years old. I've taken apart most everything but the battery in the course of replacing the fan. |
| 19:10 |
nubbins` |
my last office job, every computer in the building was a lenovo |
| 19:10 |
nubbins` |
actually, every computer across the country |
| 19:10 |
nubbins` |
thousands of employees |
| 19:11 |
nubbins` |
all using lenovo |
| 19:11 |
nubbins` |
anyway, friend popping over. thanks for the advice |
| 19:11 |
nubbins` |
cheers |
| 19:11 |
twizt |
ibm think pad |
| 19:11 |
twizt |
i bought 4 X220 tablets |
| 19:11 |
twizt |
still on #1 |
| 19:12 |
twizt |
been 2 years |
| 19:12 |
twizt |
i have too many computers.... |
| 19:14 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14214 @ 0.00083381 = 11.8518 BTC [-] |
| 19:16 |
BingoBoingo |
twizt: Honestly I picked my X120e for the amd fusion chip, and I've fallen in love with it for the keyboard |
| 19:17 |
twizt |
you have the mac style keyboard? |
| 19:17 |
twizt |
or the old one |
| 19:17 |
twizt |
with the red ball mouse |
| 19:18 |
BingoBoingo |
twizt: It has the clit and a trackpad |
| 19:19 |
BingoBoingo |
the keyboard has chiclet keys, but they have enough curve on top to make navigation something other than a pain |
| 19:20 |
twizt |
yea the mac style |
| 19:20 |
twizt |
lol |
| 19:20 |
pankkake |
yeah I like my keyboards like I like my women, with curves |
| 19:21 |
coinslot |
minislim |
| 19:21 |
twizt |
lmao |
| 19:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18686 @ 0.00083273 = 15.5604 BTC [-] |
| 19:21 |
pankkake |
asciilifeform: there are many third party services making batteries, so I wouldn't be so sure about that |
| 19:22 |
asciilifeform |
pankkake: i bought dozens of aftermarket batteries for various gadgets over the years, and not one had anything like the performance of the original. |
| 19:22 |
asciilifeform |
maybe i'm just unlucky, but they never get the charge controller (aka 'fuel gauge') right. |
| 19:22 |
coinslot |
cointerra and bitfury need to ship already so PETA can start mining! grrrr |
| 19:22 |
pankkake |
I wouldn't be surprised. and it's expensive too |
| 19:23 |
asciilifeform |
what the chinese normally do is spot-weld new Li cells into an old battery |
| 19:23 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: There have only been a couple revision to this model, but to the best of my knowledge the battery is identicle until the one released a couple months ago. |
| 19:23 |
asciilifeform |
without doing anything to the original (stateful!) charge IC |
| 19:24 |
pankkake |
thankfully I don't really need laptops |
| 19:24 |
BingoBoingo |
I really only need 10-20 minutes of battery so I can take the thing out to the garage for smoke breaks, then again that is prolly why I keep having to replace the fucking fan |
| 19:25 |
twizt |
i smoke weed around my laptop all the time |
| 19:25 |
KRS1 |
but does your laptop deserve such pleasures |
| 19:26 |
twizt |
haha |
| 19:26 |
twizt |
its a thinkPad |
| 19:26 |
twizt |
so yes |
| 19:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21401 @ 0.00084035 = 17.9843 BTC [+] |
| 19:33 |
KRS1 |
Wells Fargo is getting bitcoin friendly. |
| 19:33 |
KRS1 |
They just agreed to allow PlayCoin Entertainment to open an account with them. |
| 19:34 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.49 BTC [-] |
| 19:35 |
pankkake |
do they know it's a bitcoin business? |
| 19:36 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30600 @ 0.0008454 = 25.8692 BTC [+] |
| 19:40 |
BingoBoingo |
Browsing Overstock.com I can help but enounter shitty design decision I haven't faced in years. Why the fuck do all of hese watches with Quarts movements have second hands |
| 19:47 |
PLambert |
you want a watch without a second hand? |
| 19:50 |
BingoBoingo |
PLambert: If it has a quartz movement, yes |
| 19:54 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0029406 = 0.2941 BTC [-] |
| 19:55 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [MS] 40 @ 0.005 = 0.2 BTC |
| 20:06 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27400 @ 0.0008454 = 23.164 BTC [+] |
| 20:10 |
KRS1 |
idk what they know pankkake |
| 20:18 |
BingoBoingo |
Any thoughts on whether I should go Red http://www.overstock.com/Jewelry-Watches/Seiko-Mens-Kinetic-Stainless-Steel-Black-Dial-Automatic-Watch/7707169/product.html or Green http://www.overstock.com/Jewelry-Watches/Seiko-Mens-Kinetic-Black-Green-Watch/7708120/product.html?refccid=H7DUS3BIZD72KE2JVF6SV4HYMA&searchidx=1 |
| 20:27 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2713 @ 0.0008454 = 2.2936 BTC [+] |
| 20:28 |
kakobrekla |
green could be more comfortable to wear |
| 20:28 |
BingoBoingo |
Thank you kakobrekla Green does seem more comfortable. I might go with that. |
| 20:28 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14087 @ 0.00084551 = 11.9107 BTC [+] |
| 20:29 |
pankkake |
reminds me of http://i.imgur.com/q0lhxol.png |
| 20:31 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 160 @ 0.002997 = 0.4795 BTC [+] |
| 20:32 |
BingoBoingo |
pankkake: I'm just looking for something shiny I can pick up while paying tribute to new used electronics BTC Jesus (pronounced like the Janitor rather than the savior) |
| 20:32 |
kakobrekla |
lol |
| 20:32 |
BingoBoingo |
It is good to see though that even Vexual can get stocked up here http://www.overstock.com/Health-Beauty/Incontinence/1485/cat.html?TID=TN:HB:Incont |
| 20:34 |
kakobrekla |
thought you gonna link bongs and such |
| 20:35 |
BingoBoingo |
kakobrekla: Too gone for that. Vexual has all of the tools he needs to become Vexual. He just needs to control the mess nao. |
| 20:35 |
kakobrekla |
:D |
| 20:35 |
BingoBoingo |
I have one of these already, but the description starts lying on the second word when it describes this thing as "sleek" http://www.overstock.com/Jewelry-Watches/Seiko-Mens-Orange-Monster-Automatic-Silver-Stainless-Steel-Watch/8338833/product.html |
| 20:37 |
BingoBoingo |
That fucker feel like exactly how you might imagine a third of a pound of diving equiptment feels on the wrist |
| 20:39 |
kakobrekla |
i stoped wearing my binary wrist watch after i got my first cellphone that showed time |
| 20:44 |
kakobrekla |
it was such |
| 20:44 |
kakobrekla |
www.hybrid.pe.kr/tt/attach/1/7035478176.jpg |
| 20:44 |
kakobrekla |
i had the one on the left |
| 20:47 |
BingoBoingo |
Nice |
| 20:48 |
BingoBoingo |
I just ordered the green one so nobody order from overstock.com until it arrives. We can't be feeding scamzors can we? |
| 20:49 |
kakobrekla |
:) |
| 20:49 |
kakobrekla |
i hope you went for the red one, nsa is reading this. |
| 20:49 |
Azelphur |
kakobrekla: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/neptune/neptune-pine-smartwatch-reinvented :P |
| 20:50 |
Azelphur |
I was one of the first 500 backers...supposed to ship this month |
| 20:50 |
kakobrekla |
no no wrong way Azelphur |
| 20:50 |
Azelphur |
lol |
| 20:50 |
kakobrekla |
i dont need smart anything, if anything i need stupid stuff |
| 20:50 |
Azelphur |
oh, get this then http://dylanstiles.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/watch-big.jpg |
| 20:51 |
kakobrekla |
i can buy this, http://thederosh.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/flavor-flav-cc08.jpg |
| 20:51 |
kakobrekla |
person included |
| 20:52 |
Azelphur |
nice |
| 20:53 |
kakobrekla |
anyway, i dont use a wrist anything anymore since cell took care of that, but even cell i use once a week on average |
| 20:53 |
BingoBoingo |
kakobrekla: Well the wrist to metal ratio on this pushed me to get the red/[and][or]/green one. |
| 20:53 |
BingoBoingo |
https://unsee.cc/gesoma/ |
| 20:53 |
ozbot |
Unsee — Secure and private temporary image hosting |
| 20:54 |
kakobrekla |
hehe yeah but expect 3 mics installed! |
| 20:54 |
Azelphur |
haha I have a phone and tablet that I use regularly |
| 20:55 |
kakobrekla |
BingoBoingo i bet your arm feels a lot lighter if you take that thing off eh |
| 20:55 |
kakobrekla |
"watch it people, i took my watch off" |
| 20:55 |
BingoBoingo |
Yeah. I picked that think up when I worked at a mall kiosk the year before BTC happened |
| 20:56 |
BingoBoingo |
No electronic parts though |
| 20:56 |
kakobrekla |
aha self powering thingy? |
| 20:56 |
BingoBoingo |
NSA can't read my time... without a microphone... that wouldn't have to be very sensitive... because it is awfully loud |
| 20:57 |
kakobrekla |
:) |
| 20:58 |
BingoBoingo |
It isn't like time is real anyway |
| 21:02 |
BingoBoingo |
Uh oh kakobrekla Garr255 might get BitBet to say who you are http://gawker.com/court-orders-yelp-to-reveal-anonymous-reviewers-identi-1498108583 |
| 21:03 |
BingoBoingo |
This is seriously a bad precedent though, if only people who fell for scams pointed out scams every scam would be unconditionally loved decades after having gone totes scam |
| 21:04 |
kakobrekla |
i imagine he is that dumb he would try that, but my info is easily obtainable |
| 21:05 |
BingoBoingo |
Well, one just has to care to check the S.BBET contract. |
| 21:05 |
kakobrekla |
prett much so |
| 21:05 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [MS] 25 @ 0.005 = 0.125 BTC |
| 21:07 |
BingoBoingo |
I think I need to make a cryptostocks account. Imma make a mining farm. S.Potato |
| 21:07 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00084507 = 4.4789 BTC [-] |
| 21:07 |
kakobrekla |
why just not LTC.Asic |
| 21:08 |
BingoBoingo |
Imma farm like 10 potato plants. ANd when they grow ptotatos I'll sell them for BTC |
| 21:08 |
kakobrekla |
a that |
| 21:08 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21150 @ 0.00084461 = 17.8635 BTC [-] |
| 21:08 |
kakobrekla |
usagi/eskimo bob style |
| 21:08 |
BingoBoingo |
It will be insured too. If the potatos don't grow I'll buy some at the store. |
| 21:08 |
BingoBoingo |
And then sell them for BTC |
| 21:08 |
kakobrekla |
lol |
| 21:09 |
BingoBoingo |
This has to be like a 0.0025 BTC business |
| 21:09 |
kakobrekla |
yeah well btc is clearly on top now and potatos are on the bottom |
| 21:09 |
kakobrekla |
seems normal to hedge some |
| 21:10 |
BingoBoingo |
Maybe in July I'll open the S.Potato delivers BitBet, but this might be a bit small for BitBet |
| 21:11 |
kakobrekla |
dunno, maybe it will suffice if you make it a club |
| 21:13 |
BingoBoingo |
Nah, this will be the stupidest and most predictible asset in BTC history. |
| 21:13 |
BingoBoingo |
Perfect for people who want to short BTC and long potatos |
| 21:15 |
BingoBoingo |
Fuck this shit. Cryptostocks wants 1BTC to list a security. I plan on growing maybe 5-20lbs of potatos. |
| 21:16 |
kakobrekla |
sell shares directly doh |
| 21:19 |
BingoBoingo |
Eh, then I will have to vanitygen 1potato |
| 21:22 |
BingoBoingo |
Motherfuckers, someone is already squatting bitcoinpotato.com http://bitcoinpotato.com/ |
| 21:27 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 262 @ 0.00084551 = 0.2215 BTC [+] |
| 21:27 |
BingoBoingo |
Just used the contact us for to let bitcoinpotato.com know that I want his domain |
| 21:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28388 @ 0.00084566 = 24.0066 BTC [+] {2} |
| 21:42 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1000 @ 0.000501 = 0.501 BTC [-] |
| 21:46 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 550 @ 0.00084328 = 0.4638 BTC [-] |
| 21:48 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1000 @ 0.0005 = 0.5 BTC [-] |
| 21:53 |
BingoBoingo |
The BBWA has declared war on the internet |
| 21:56 |
BingoBoingo |
http://bbwaa.com/lebatard-statement/ |
| 21:56 |
ozbot |
BBWAA.com: Official site of the Baseball Writers' Assn. of America. |
| 22:03 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33245 @ 0.00084457 = 28.0777 BTC [+] {2} |
| 22:04 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [MS] 25 @ 0.005 = 0.125 BTC |
| 22:08 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: care to explain? |
| 22:08 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Some baseball writer crowdsourced who would appear on his Hall of Fame ballot and nao the other baseball writers are butthurt |
| 22:09 |
asciilifeform |
granted i don't know the sport, but presumably that wasn't what they normally agree to? |
| 22:10 |
asciilifeform |
sort of like the legendary programmer who secretly outsourced his job to chinese slaves. |
| 22:12 |
BingoBoingo |
Well, these examples happen in defferent contexts. |
| 22:13 |
BingoBoingo |
The baseball writer is a specialist tasked with preserving the cultural memory of a pursuit a large part of the population has an affinity for. |
| 22:13 |
BingoBoingo |
The programmer is a specialist tasked with making Java do something in one particular case. |
| 22:21 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: what would you think if you had paid a little for, say, kasparov to play a game with you, and found out that he's taking a vote from web wankers as to each move instead of playing? |
| 22:22 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [MS] 35 @ 0.005 = 0.175 BTC |
| 22:24 |
BingoBoingo |
If I was playing on IRC I'd be rather indifferent. I anticipate no one I play chess with on IRC actually playing. I just assume they are all using fruit or whatever the fashionable engine is nao a days. The value in playing Kasparov would be the trash talk. |
| 22:24 |
BingoBoingo |
I dunno what the price to get Kasparov to actually play nao would be though. |
| 22:24 |
BingoBoingo |
His entire brand nao is pretty much built on the fact he doesn't play |
| 22:25 |
asciilifeform |
idea is, you're paying him (or pick another favourite) to get a real feel for the style |
| 22:25 |
asciilifeform |
and you find out that he was getting reddit wankers' moves in a spy earphone |
| 22:25 |
BingoBoingo |
AnywaysI could lose to web wakers just about as easily as I can lose to Kasparov. |
| 22:25 |
asciilifeform |
you ask why, he tells you 'that's my style now' |
| 22:26 |
asciilifeform |
you paid for a kasparov game, presumably, not a reddit game |
| 22:26 |
BingoBoingo |
Well the top player now Carlsen plays as though he just pulls whatever opening books reddit suggests he play |
| 22:27 |
BingoBoingo |
I dunno that I'd be able to appreciate playing a real Kasparov game since most of the beauty happens in the middle and endgame normally |
| 22:27 |
asciilifeform |
or say, he decides to play by picking legal moves from an rng. |
| 22:27 |
asciilifeform |
would you still feel that you got your money's worth? |
| 22:29 |
BingoBoingo |
It depends on the RNG. |
| 22:29 |
asciilifeform |
good exercise btw |
| 22:29 |
asciilifeform |
'write random chess player' |
| 22:30 |
asciilifeform |
will it always get easily 'kindermatt'ed or not? |
| 22:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00083764 = 16.8366 BTC [-] |
| 22:31 |
truffles |
how are we today BingoBoingo? |
| 22:31 |
BingoBoingo |
Whether that happens I imagine depends on the first move that gets picked. |
| 22:31 |
BingoBoingo |
truffles I'm not feeling bad |
| 22:32 |
asciilifeform |
could one get some idea of a player's strength in seeing how long 'rngchess' lasts against him? |
| 22:32 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Depends on when in the game RNG chess kicks in |
| 22:32 |
asciilifeform |
first move to last. |
| 22:33 |
asciilifeform |
machine always chooses random (uniform distrib.) legal move. |
| 22:33 |
BingoBoingo |
If RNG chess doesn' have a good opening book you might need a rather large sample size of games to evaluate players |
| 22:33 |
asciilifeform |
no opening book. just random legal move for every move. |
| 22:34 |
BingoBoingo |
If the RNG plays as white for any first move other than 1 d4 and the other than 1 e4 and 1 f4 the RNG's winning chances are diminished at the start |
| 22:35 |
truffles |
is chess solved? |
| 22:35 |
BingoBoingo |
truffles: not yet |
| 22:35 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 650 @ 0.00084221 = 0.5474 BTC [+] |
| 22:36 |
truffles |
some declare tis |
| 22:36 |
asciilifeform |
i'd be rather surprised if rngchess ever wins. |
| 22:36 |
asciilifeform |
the question is how long it will take, normally, to lose. |
| 22:36 |
BingoBoingo |
truffles: Even the best engines still require human intervention in the first 12 moves to compete at a high level |
| 22:36 |
asciilifeform |
rngchess is unlikely to win even against itself (one ought to expect stalemate first.) |
| 22:37 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Well the thing is astoundingly poor play can can longer to lose a game than plainly naive play |
| 22:37 |
asciilifeform |
right |
| 22:38 |
asciilifeform |
in fact, a challenge for a human might consist in: 'lose to rngchess.' |
| 22:38 |
BingoBoingo |
The 3-5 move mating combinations generally happen against people with some ideas of principles of the game. People who come in blind actually tend to defend agaist them more frequently in my experience. |
| 22:39 |
truffles |
ure saying machine cant beat human at this time? |
| 22:39 |
BingoBoingo |
truffles: asciilifeform is saying a human can't lose to an RNG, a specific type of machine |
| 22:39 |
asciilifeform |
can. just with difficulty |
| 22:40 |
asciilifeform |
machine in question plays randomly selected legal moves at all times. |
| 22:40 |
truffles |
uh whyd it do that.. |
| 22:40 |
asciilifeform |
thought experiment. |
| 22:41 |
BingoBoingo |
Most chess engines don't actually work from very different principles at the moment which is why Fruit will open with 1. f3 a disappointing number of times |
| 22:41 |
truffles |
does a human do random moves though |
| 22:42 |
BingoBoingo |
truffles: Humans don't do good random moves |
| 22:42 |
BingoBoingo |
Humans don't do good random anything |
| 22:42 |
BingoBoingo |
Outside of temporal lobe epilepsy |
| 22:43 |
truffles |
put some dubstep to it |
| 22:43 |
truffles |
in slow motion |
| 22:44 |
BingoBoingo |
FUKU USCF |
| 22:44 |
BingoBoingo |
I want to look up my ELO rating, but no |
| 22:45 |
BingoBoingo |
Instead of a useful link there is a fucking banner ad |
| 22:45 |
BingoBoingo |
That obscures the link I want |
| 22:45 |
truffles |
i think ure above 900 for sure |
| 22:46 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.NSA] 9000 @ 0.000107 = 0.963 BTC [-] |
| 22:46 |
BingoBoingo |
truffles: On over the board play against people I can spit on I'm rated in the 930's |
| 22:48 |
truffles |
ive never been rated |
| 22:49 |
BingoBoingo |
I did it in grade school and throughout my adult life so far some bars with decent Bloody Maries have held tournaments |
| 22:50 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1080 @ 0.00084221 = 0.9096 BTC [+] |
| 22:50 |
BingoBoingo |
Ah, as of April 2012 I am rated 887 |
| 22:51 |
BingoBoingo |
Elo rating though |
| 22:52 |
BingoBoingo |
So I'm not 887th best in the world. I'm 887 on a scale from 0 to 3000 |
| 22:54 |
BingoBoingo |
So... I sent the BBWAA an email asking for membership. I wonder if they will negligently accept me as Bruce Schneier's comment section did. |
| 22:55 |
asciilifeform |
schneier virtually never rejects anything but blatant spam. |
| 22:55 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: He rejected a lot of people in this channel supposing Cardano announcements |
| 22:55 |
truffles |
he seems cool |
| 22:55 |
BingoBoingo |
Or critiques of his airgap article |
| 22:56 |
truffles |
what kind of requests twitter? |
| 22:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00084045 = 13.9515 BTC [-] {2} |
| 22:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MG] 9608 @ 0.00010001 = 0.9609 BTC [-] {2} |
| 22:56 |
KRS1 |
o/ mjr_ |
| 22:56 |
BingoBoingo |
I was the one who got a link to MP's airgap response to stick there after a lot of rejects from here |
| 22:57 |
KRS1 |
cardano isn't even insured |
| 22:57 |
truffles |
he rejected mp? |
| 22:58 |
BingoBoingo |
truffles: Seems like he is a government agent |
| 22:58 |
truffles |
id never suspect mp |
| 22:58 |
BingoBoingo |
truffles: Not till you find him inside your wife |
| 22:59 |
KRS1 |
hell of a place to be in any circumstance |
| 22:59 |
truffles |
that would never happen :D |
| 22:59 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.00084221 = 1.0107 BTC [+] |
| 22:59 |
BingoBoingo |
KRS1: WTF would insurance benefit a cardano anyway |
| 23:00 |
asciilifeform |
when you go skydiving, do you insure your parachute? |
| 23:00 |
truffles |
;;google cardano |
| 23:00 |
gribble |
Gerolamo Cardano - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerolamo_Cardano>; Cardano: <http://www.cardano.com/>; Cardan biography: <http://www-history.mcs.st-andrews.ac.uk/Biographies/Cardan.html> |
| 23:01 |
truffles |
which one |
| 23:02 |
asciilifeform |
gerolamo. |
| 23:02 |
BingoBoingo |
No, you insure the plane so other causalties pay you . Insuring the parachute only pays your survivors. |
| 23:02 |
KRS1 |
Low blow at the Cardano. Recently the world's first insured storage service was launched in the U.K. |
| 23:02 |
KRS1 |
insteresting analogy BingoBoingo |
| 23:02 |
KRS1 |
The whole thing is hosted on AWS and GoDaddy..security so gaping you can drive a lorry though |
| 23:02 |
truffles |
tl dr |
| 23:03 |
asciilifeform |
1) insure storage for $bignum. 2) 'hack' account through chinese proxy. 3) profit! |
| 23:03 |
asciilifeform |
this is called 'moral hazard', and legit insurer folks know about it. |
| 23:03 |
truffles |
do they rly pay out |
| 23:03 |
KRS1 |
haha |
| 23:03 |
truffles |
seems they always find some way out of it |
| 23:03 |
asciilifeform |
and won't insure random shit. |
| 23:03 |
KRS1 |
can I use n.korean proxy for leet bonus points |
| 23:05 |
asciilifeform |
legit insurance is for things that are 1) quantifiable risks that 2) one isn't likely to silently arrange and then laugh all the way to the bank. |
| 23:05 |
BingoBoingo |
Oh, speaking of chenese proxies... If anyone is investigating the TradeFortress shit: the accounts o Bitcointalk named TradeFortress, MtDox, and Scotaloo might be the same person. |
| 23:05 |
asciilifeform |
i thought this was kindergarten basics. |
| 23:06 |
BingoBoingo |
Also... TF seems to definitely lived in Norther Australia In the first 2/3rds of 2013 or found a bunch of people running tor exit nodes in the same apartment complex |
| 23:07 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: pwned cable modems? |
| 23:08 |
asciilifeform |
(how to pwn an apartment complex full of cable modems simultaneously - exercise for alert reader!) |
| 23:13 |
KRS1 |
sorry wanted to mak it clear "world's first insured [bitcoin] storage service was launched in the U.K." |
| 23:14 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Seems like the sort of exploit that would be reserved for a higher return sort of gig |
| 23:14 |
truffles |
bitcoin bank? |
| 23:14 |
asciilifeform |
exploits, like money, are found in the hands of both the wise and the foolish. |
| 23:14 |
BingoBoingo |
KRS1: And overstock.com takes btc but I recommend no one use them until my watch arrives so we know they aren't too much scam |
| 23:14 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Well from conversations earlier 10 BTC prizes aren't worth zerodays yet |
| 23:14 |
KRS1 |
overstock scam? serious? |
| 23:15 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: if we're thinking of the same challenge, that was a lamer who wanted 1BTC to play |
| 23:15 |
KRS1 |
overstock is huge bro |
| 23:15 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Yeah the dude who wanted 1BTC to play for 10 when enough players funded the pot |
| 23:16 |
asciilifeform |
and, of course, nobody's invented a way to mitigate counterparty risk in 0day markets yet. |
| 23:16 |
asciilifeform |
one side or the other is wide open to being scammed clean. |
| 23:17 |
asciilifeform |
and this type of transaction isn't frequent enough for meaningful reputations to be established. |
| 23:17 |
BingoBoingo |
Some day though. |
| 23:18 |
asciilifeform |
some day what, i'm curious |
| 23:31 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Some day people who pawn will be a big enough market to move their collected btc without sinking the boat. That day Linode will finally be bigger than Godaddy.com |
| 23:31 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00084178 = 3.8722 BTC [-] |
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| 23:52 |
BingoBoingo |
If the FBI every raids Linode and takes their private keys that will be you know the Jig is up and that kill switch is imminent asciilifeform |
| 23:55 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 820 @ 0.001 = 0.82 BTC [+] |