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00:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5500 @ 0.00012 = 0.66 BTC [+]
00:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17247 @ 0.00084549 = 14.5822 BTC [+] {3}
00:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.0657 = 0.1971 BTC [-]
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01:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02429998 = 0.1215 BTC [+]
01:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02429999 = 0.1215 BTC [+]
01:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3923 @ 0.00084085 = 3.2987 BTC [-]
01:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00084083 = 4.7507 BTC [-] {2}
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01:46 KRS|Gotyawallet Wtf does this place die when the U.S. sleeps?
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02:08 Namworld More or less
02:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8838 @ 0.00084149 = 7.4371 BTC [+]
02:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15747 @ 0.00084286 = 13.2725 BTC [+] {2}
02:30 benkay nubbins' this whole pubkey in public thing is a bit declasse, you know? "here's where you can send me money" printed on things is a bit tacky.
02:31 benkay now as part of a jewelry, discreet and all, that might be an interesting thing.
02:31 dio_ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339544.0 did this guy lose $7k because his originating transfer from a dumb company didnt include a 7 cents-or-so transaction fee
02:31 ozbot BitBet Stole ~$7,000 from me (10 BTC)
02:32 dio_ ?
02:33 benkay no because his transaction didn't clear before the deadline
02:33 benkay subtle distinction many people fail to understand. requires intimate understanding of the blockchain etc.
02:33 dio_ didnt clear because the lack of transaction fee...
02:33 dio_ unless you didnt read that
02:33 benkay it may as well say "because he's an idiot who doesn't understand the bitcoin protocol"
02:33 benkay people who don't understand how things actually work are generally going to fuck themselves.
02:35 dio_ was the originating transfer from a dumb company that dint include an approximate 7 cent transsaciton fee that would have accleerated propgaation of the transaction enough to be acceptec by thte deadline? if not yes or no....any guess on probability?
02:36 dio_ i can run that through spell check if anyones having issues
02:40 dio_ seems to be the case
02:41 benkay yup sounds right to me
02:41 benkay basically some idiot had a dependency in his financial toolchain whose impacts on sending money he didn't understand.
02:41 dio_ no reason to spout ad hominems...
02:42 dio_ i was trying to be logical
02:42 benkay it is the fate of all who do not grok their computation platforms to forever wail and thrash in incompetent rage at their continuing inability to do business and acquire as much capital as their self-image indicates they should have
02:42 benkay this story is SO OLD
02:42 dio_ huh?
02:43 benkay precisely.
02:43 dio_ passive aggresive, i see
02:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12803 @ 0.00084517 = 10.8207 BTC [+]
02:46 dio_ i just wnated to make sure, that dude got screwed out of 7k becuase he transfered from a dumb company that didnt pay an approximate 7 cent transaction fee
02:46 dio_ which, out of the guys defense, would be (dangerously) assumed to be included
02:46 dio_ but...eh..
02:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6497 @ 0.00084572 = 5.4946 BTC [+]
02:47 benkay ;;ticker
02:47 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 670.41403, Best ask: 678.59398, Bid-ask spread: 8.17995, Last trade: 670.414, 24 hour volume: 13690.56230659, 24 hour low: 630.0, 24 hour high: 700.0, 24 hour vwap: 666.96364
02:47 dio_ a logical person would smell collusion
02:47 dio_ but eh....not everything is logical
02:47 benkay between the other 'wallet' and bitbet?
02:47 benkay ;;ticker
02:47 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 671.005, Best ask: 678.59396, Bid-ask spread: 7.58896, Last trade: 670.414, 24 hour volume: 13689.99901707, 24 hour low: 630.0, 24 hour high: 700.0, 24 hour vwap: 666.96373
02:48 dio_ i dunno
02:48 dio_ u tell me
02:48 benkay a logical person wouldn't smell anything but stupid
02:48 benkay if you can't handle txn fees, and you don't understand their impact on transactions, you don't hold bitcoin for long.
02:49 dio_ who are you talking to?
02:49 benkay well the 'you' thing is a conversational construct
02:49 benkay i could just as well have written 'one'
02:50 benkay but it's really for you.
02:51 dio_ try and answer questions quicker dude
02:51 benkay you're investigating this months old thing where someone tried to slip in under the wire of a bet before it closed, but sent from a not-really-a-wallet-wallet and so didn't have a txn fee, which meant their txn had to wait for the first friendly miner including zero fee blocks.
02:51 benkay blocks -> transactions
02:51 benkay i'm trying to give you a bigger perspective here
02:51 benkay bitcoin is hard
02:52 benkay u can't bitcoin, u no has bitcoin eventually
02:52 dio_ why are you strawmaning
02:54 dio_ i guess that was a rhetorical question, my bad
03:07 Vexual whats pink and hard?
03:07 benkay dunno v whazzat?
03:08 Vexual a pig with a flick knife
03:08 benkay har har har
03:08 benkay http://greatbooksformen.wordpress.com/2013/10/03/newsflash-ben-bernanke-originally-wrote-miley-cyruss-hit-song-we-cant-stop-as-a-fedzlz-mission-statetemenstz-lzzoizzlzoz/
03:08 ozbot NEWSFLASH BEN BERNANKE originally wrote MILEY CYRUS’S hit song WE CAN’T STOP as a FEDzlz mission
03:13 Vexual what would bitcoin barbie come with?
03:18 benkay dunno vex hit me
03:18 Vexual im not sure if thet should be a crude joke or a tshirt for nubbins
03:18 benkay come with or come on?
03:20 Vexual the crude joke punchline would be "nothing, she is vaginaless@
03:20 Vexual but in the existing box, would it be tulips and lsd?
03:21 benkay why tulips?
03:21 Vexual i heard it said once, im not sure of the correlation
03:23 Vexual rented servers and a maserati?
03:24 benkay you don't rent servers this is bitcoin
03:24 benkay locked cages and asics?
03:25 Vexual miner barbie
03:28 Vexual deaf with a heat rash
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03:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00084199 = 13.3034 BTC [-] {2}
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04:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00084225 = 7.9172 BTC [+] {3}
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04:29 Vexual http://fishconsult.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Fishing-boat-in-Khasab-Oman.jpg
04:30 Vexual bitcoin barbie
04:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00084473 = 7.3914 BTC [+]
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05:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00084387 = 6.751 BTC [-] {2}
05:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10452 @ 0.00084101 = 8.7902 BTC [-]
05:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00084376 = 9.5345 BTC [+] {3}
05:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4483 @ 0.00084054 = 3.7681 BTC [-] {2}
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06:02 Vexual http://vimeo.com/61341838
06:02 ozbot Bob Dylan - Isis (1976) on Vimeo
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06:18 Vexual the word scam flys around a lot in bitcoinia
06:19 Vexual heres a scam, 55 days interest free, but if you dont make a payment every month theres a late fee
06:19 Diablo-D3 not at all
06:19 Vexual no scammy?
06:19 Diablo-D3 some companies DO make "no payments until future date" things
06:19 Diablo-D3 not all of them are
06:19 Diablo-D3 no interest != doesn't have to cover minimum payment
06:20 Diablo-D3 no interest is no interest
06:20 Vexual so whats that called? sneaky?
06:20 Diablo-D3 and Ive seen ones which have interest but have "no payment until the future"
06:20 Diablo-D3 Vexual: its called standard business practices
06:20 Diablo-D3 its not even sneaky if they're up front about it
06:20 Diablo-D3 they have to inform you what your minimum monthly is anyhow, by law
06:20 Diablo-D3 before you sign
06:21 Vexual you're right
06:21 jurov http://onbitcoin.com/2013/12/22/bloomberg-exposes-bitcoin-paper-wallet-private-key-tv-gets-stolen/ hahaha
06:21 ozbot Bloomberg Exposes Bitcoin Paper Wallet Private Key on TV, Gets Stolen | On Bitcoin
06:21 Vexual bloomberg is going out, anyon know about the new mayor?
06:22 Diablo-D3 Vexual: bloomberg, the mayor != bloomberg the news outlet
06:22 Vexual yeah i know, his tenure is up soon
06:22 Diablo-D3 good
06:22 Diablo-D3 nyc needs a better mayor
06:22 Diablo-D3 and the word tenure is wrong
06:22 Vexual fucking juliani
06:23 Vexual whatever im not american
06:23 Diablo-D3 tenture does not "go up", it comes into existance after being there for ten years
06:23 Diablo-D3 its an xbox achievement of life.
06:23 Diablo-D3 it means something in acadameia but nowhere else
06:23 Diablo-D3 the word you're looking for is term
06:23 Diablo-D3 his term is up
06:23 Vexual thnaks
06:25 Vexual right or wrong, whats the deal?
06:25 Diablo-D3 what do you mean
06:25 Vexual do you know anything about this new guy?
06:25 Diablo-D3 nope
06:25 Diablo-D3 I don't particularly pay attention to small time politics like that
06:26 Vexual its the world city
06:26 Diablo-D3 its a city, and the guy is still a mayor
06:27 Vexual he can fart and make a law for every guy that works on wall st
06:27 Diablo-D3 not really.
06:27 Diablo-D3 thats up to congress
06:27 Diablo-D3 ny state rarely interferes with financial concerns like that
06:27 Diablo-D3 nyc isnt even the biggest city in the world
06:28 Vexual i know its kinda academic, but he influences peoples lives
06:28 Diablo-D3 he does
06:28 Diablo-D3 but not in major ways
06:29 Diablo-D3 now, where people park? where schools are built (but not the funding to build)? how many black people get arrested for being black? thats totally the mayor's thing
06:30 Diablo-D3 hell, even the building of the new WTC, the mayor's office had very little input on it and would have to sign off on it no matter if they liked it or not due to how high profile it is
06:30 Vexual youre probably right
06:31 Vexual ydo you think he has more power in his news agency?
06:31 Diablo-D3 its not his
06:31 Diablo-D3 but he IS distantly related to the guy who started it
06:31 Vexual have you been to new york?
06:32 Diablo-D3 ...
06:32 Diablo-D3 wtf
06:32 Diablo-D3 you've got to be kidding me
06:32 Diablo-D3 I just fact checked myself
06:32 Vexual new paragraph
06:32 Diablo-D3 not only am I wrong
06:32 Diablo-D3 but he started it.
06:32 Diablo-D3 Bloomberg L.P. is a privately held financial software, data and media company headquartered in New York City. Bloomberg L.P. was founded by Michael Bloomberg in 1981 with the help of Thomas Secunda, Duncan MacMillan, Charles Zegar[6] and a 30% ownership investment by Merrill Lynch.
06:33 Diablo-D3 I now like him even less.
06:33 Vexual do you also dislike the yakuza boss that runs tokyo?
06:34 Vexual democracy
06:35 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WutGkPePnCU
06:35 ozbot Black Eyed Peas My Humps Outro "So Real" Cleanly Edited Extended Version - YouTube
06:36 Diablo-D3 there is more than one yakuza boss, btw
06:36 Diablo-D3 but the one you're thinking of, hes actually a pretty cool dude
06:37 Vexual i dont know who im thinking of and i dont want to
06:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00084287 = 4.4672 BTC [+] {2}
06:38 Diablo-D3 Well, I assume Kenichi Shinoda
06:38 Diablo-D3 its who everyone thinks of when they think Yakuza.
06:39 Vexual i didnt know the name before
06:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00084505 = 7.1829 BTC [+]
06:42 Vexual what a cyberpunk future we live in huh?
06:42 Diablo-D3 I guess.
06:42 Vexual wonka bars and electric cars
06:43 Vexual global reserve that can change hands anywhere in a second
06:48 Diablo-D3 yup
06:48 Diablo-D3 its the end of the old order, and the start of a new.
06:48 Diablo-D3 all that will come to pass has been written in the days of yore
06:50 Vexual its still kinda the industrial revolution, were just living on part of the curve thats steep
06:51 Vexual i think it was poescue who said you need three people to be sucessful as an individual these days
06:51 Vexual or some such
06:52 Vexual we live in a fantastic time
06:53 pankkake I'd like to believe so…
06:53 Vexual i wouldnt swap out for quids
06:58 Vexual look how new jumbo jets are
07:01 AndrewJackson i love Jumbo Jets
07:09 Vexual fuckin aye
07:12 Vexual radio music was ahead of its time
07:13 Vexual but its not a hive entil theres feedback
07:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00012 = 1.2 BTC [+]
07:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 126 @ 0.00293971 = 0.3704 BTC [+] {4}
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08:14 mircea_popescu http://www.halfpasthuman.com/essays/bitregistrar.html
08:14 ozbot BitRegistrar: p2p vital records..
08:14 mircea_popescu retardation never stops.
08:15 mircea_popescu gpg has been around for 20 years, pgp for 30, this guy just discovered "bitcoin signatures"
08:15 mircea_popescu fucking need a bigger fire.
08:25 truffles bonfire!
08:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6452 @ 0.00084505 = 5.4523 BTC [+]
08:35 mircea_popescu It's our hero, the Egregious Trope-Man! With his amazing trope-related powers, he always saves the day!
08:35 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
08:35 mircea_popescu But oh no! Here comes the Legion of Evil: Dr von Trope, The Dog Kicker, The Chessmaster, Superdick, Mr. Macekre, and the Brotherhood of Bowdlerization, Sir Jerkass, and the villainous Mary Sue! Together they'll bring about The End of the World as We Know It...
08:35 mircea_popescu im lost in tvtropes. send food.
08:37 truffles u got lost in Superdick eh
08:46 wao-ender mircea_popescu: did you see http://imgur.com/x2vFGDi ?
08:46 mircea_popescu is it more than a cartoon someone on reddit drew ?
08:49 KRS|Gotyawallet https://blockchain.info/address/1AYtnRppWM7tWQaVLpm7TvcHKrjKxgCRvX%20?
08:49 ozbot Bitcoin Address 1AYtnRppWM7tWQaVLpm7TvcHKrjKxgCRvX
08:49 KRS|Gotyawallet ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
08:49 KRS|Gotyawallet Thats one of you guys isn't it...come on now..
08:49 mircea_popescu it's old.
08:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00012 = 1.2 BTC [+]
08:50 KRS|Gotyawallet did you see "public note"
08:51 mircea_popescu "To stop the this" ? nobody here has such bad grammar.
08:53 KRS|Gotyawallet =/
08:53 KRS|Gotyawallet the end is near
08:54 ThickAsThieves http://www.businessinsider.com/bloomberg-matt-miller-bitcoin-gift-stolen-2013-12
08:54 ozbot Bloomberg's Miller Bitcoin Gift Stolen - Business Insider
08:54 ThickAsThieves lel
08:54 KRS|Gotyawallet Winklevoss twins are in the secret group, they told us ETF application has been denied and secondmarket's will soon be shut down, BTC to be banned in the US following China's actions. Thus the reasoning for the orchestration of the 400kBTC dump to happen soon.
08:55 KRS|Gotyawallet lets rally up some btc and buy up that 400K alright?
08:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2281 @ 0.00012 = 0.2737 BTC [+]
08:56 KRS|Gotyawallet i'll drop 75K on it, shiet this is war nigga
08:58 ThickAsThieves bitcoin magazine really needs to get rid of those spammy 'article' ads at the bottom of the page
08:58 ThickAsThieves and also not write about dogecoin...
08:58 ThickAsThieves http://bitcoinmagazine.com/9109/will-dogecoin-replace-bitcoin/
08:58 ozbot Will Dogecoin Replace Bitcoin
08:59 ThickAsThieves if you have to ask...
08:59 mircea_popescu herp.
09:00 mircea_popescu dude srsly, this retards wave 3.0 thing is above any predicted high water mark.
09:00 mircea_popescu if post-sell-by date starlets start "leaking" bitcoin tapes i'm gonna hurt some puppies.
09:03 kakobrekla what? but its clear http://i.imgur.com/v2g0rDC.gif
09:05 KRS|Gotyawallet anybody concerned about that public note on 400K btc?
09:05 KRS|Gotyawallet sry "anyone"
09:06 mircea_popescu KRS|Gotyawallet do you generally put a lot of concern into 10 cents ?
09:06 ThickAsThieves https://blogs.rsa.com/news-media-2/rsa-response/
09:06 ozbot RSA Response to Media Claims Regarding NSA Relationship » Speaking of Security - The RSA Blog
09:06 ThickAsThieves (they deny it)\
09:06 mircea_popescu yeah, because that always worked.
09:15 jurov don't we have a bitbet about this already?
09:15 jurov such as dogecoin mkt cap > btc?
09:17 mircea_popescu is there any way to reliably measure such a putative mkt cap ?
09:20 mircea_popescu .d
09:20 ozbot 1180923195.25803 | Next Diff in 1649 blocks | Estimated Change: 14.1862% in 9d 19h 38m 50s
09:29 KRS|Gotyawallet ok..well..hrmph..cool I guess. Thanks dude.s
09:32 mircea_popescu KRS|Gotyawallet you seriously failed to notice that "the big move" happened january 2011 ?
09:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00084478 = 6.9272 BTC [-]
09:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 309 @ 0.0029 = 0.8961 BTC [+] {4}
09:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1781 @ 0.00084478 = 1.5046 BTC [-]
09:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 333 @ 0.00308095 = 1.026 BTC [+] {8}
09:40 KRS|Gotyawallet I agree with you guys, but this time I think even Fontas said its the end.
09:41 KRS|Gotyawallet http://trollboxarchive.com/search.php?search_type=username&search=fontas
09:41 ozbot trollboxarchive.com btc-e chat archive SEARCH
09:41 truffles is the bitcoin sky fallling
09:43 KRS|Gotyawallet =/
09:44 truffles ye of little faith
09:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.309 BTC [-]
09:45 KRS|Gotyawallet I just report the news, I'm not backing it up, interested in comments from you guys because I value your wisdom.
09:46 truffles u should start a news site then :D
09:46 mircea_popescu how is this nonsense news ?
09:47 mircea_popescu next you'll be quoting bitcoin foundation, bitcoin magazine and #bitcoin-dev.
09:47 KRS|Gotyawallet heh ya you right
09:48 KRS|Gotyawallet anyway..
09:49 KRS|Gotyawallet i was talking to jurov about a cool project worth looking into using global conciousness project data to compute favorable odds for betting on sites like just dice
09:49 KRS|Gotyawallet ill let you know how it goes if you are interested
09:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00293 = 1.465 BTC [-]
09:56 ThickAsThieves https://blockchain.info/charts/bitcoin-days-destroyed?timespan=120days
09:56 ozbot Bitcoin Bitcoin Days Destroyed
09:56 ThickAsThieves http://bitbet.us/bet/634/bitcoin-days-destroyed-will-surpass-previous-record-before/
09:56 ozbot BitBet - Bitcoin days destroyed will surpass previous record before March 2014
09:57 ThickAsThieves the end is nigh!
09:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 205 @ 0.024 = 4.92 BTC [-]
10:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00084369 = 8.3947 BTC [-] {3}
10:02 ThickAsThieves here's the all-time link
10:02 ThickAsThieves https://blockchain.info/charts/bitcoin-days-destroyed?timespan=all&showDataPoints=false&daysAverageString=1&show_header=true&scale=0&address=
10:02 ozbot Bitcoin Bitcoin Days Destroyed
10:02 ThickAsThieves i assume the bet is now closed
10:05 mircea_popescu not like anyone had bet.
10:05 mircea_popescu i guess nobody gives a shit about that
10:06 ThickAsThieves indeed
10:06 ThickAsThieves i'm unclear whether BDD matters
10:06 mircea_popescu it's a vague measure of nothing in particular
10:06 mircea_popescu you know, like nielsen ratings / website traffic stats / us inflation
10:07 ThickAsThieves the rainwater of advertisers
10:07 ThickAsThieves er, for advertisers
10:08 ThickAsThieves maybe fertilizer would be more apporiate
10:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 423 @ 0.00100817 = 0.4265 BTC [-] {4}
10:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2863 @ 0.00040269 = 1.1529 BTC [-] {11}
10:23 monolithik so I was recently reading nick szabo's bgold article.
10:24 monolithik and I wondered, who is this guy? Ignoring the question of whether he is satoshi or not, who is he? Other than his website and blog, he's basically a ghost online
10:25 monolithik I found a conference on smart contracts that he supposedly spoke at, but not much else
10:25 mircea_popescu he is a very smart anthropologist
10:25 monolithik but then it gets stranger: http://w2.eff.org/Net_culture/Folklore/Humor/squish.hoax
10:25 mircea_popescu with a bunch of oblique interests.
10:26 monolithik As far back as 1994 on the cypherpunk mailing list, people questioned whether szabo was a real person
10:26 monolithik "The Szabo tentacle is one of the most persistent of all. Even after"
10:26 monolithik being exposed the `mother monster' continues to post, because a`
10:26 monolithik fairly significant reputation investment has been established under
10:26 monolithik the name. Has strong interest in digital cash. Has admitted to
10:26 monolithik knowledge of fake name use. Probably a T.C.May tentacle.
10:26 truffles having weird interests gets ppl interested in u nowadays hmmm
10:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.31399797 BTC [+]
10:28 dexX7 well, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381045.0
10:28 monolithik I originally thought he was probably real and just very careful about his online presence, but those old cypherpunk emails kind of weird me out.
10:29 truffles guess u dont like tentacle porn :D
10:29 ThickAsThieves http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/outrageous-hsbc-settlement-proves-the-drug-war-is-a-joke-20121213
10:29 ozbot Outrageous HSBC Settlement Proves the Drug War is a Joke | | Rolling Stone
10:30 monolithik i mean, for a GWU law professor, its quite strange that there is almost no record of his existence.
10:30 mircea_popescu monolithik a better question would be, why;d you give a shit ?
10:30 ThickAsThieves "Though this was not stated explicitly, the government's rationale in not pursuing criminal prosecutions against the bank was apparently rooted in concerns that putting executives from a "systemically important institution" in jail for drug laundering would threaten the stability of the financial system...
10:30 ThickAsThieves banks be untouchable yo
10:31 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves it's not a joke, it's just there to control poor people.
10:31 monolithik to be honest, no idea, I
10:31 mircea_popescu these aren't poor people, and therefore unrelated.
10:31 monolithik think I just went a bit too deep down the rabbit hole.
10:31 mircea_popescu also, what the fascist media claims and what the reality is divergest vastly.
10:32 mircea_popescu the usg insists to bother foreign merchants with "regulation". this is one step away from everyone just sending it packing. so it agreed to stfu and save some face.
10:32 mircea_popescu hardly anything else than proof as to how the usg is impotent and pointless.
10:34 ThickAsThieves why is HSBC paying anything at all then?
10:34 mircea_popescu they're paying dollars.
10:34 mircea_popescu stuff's worthless anyway.
10:34 ThickAsThieves heh
10:35 mircea_popescu if brauer had actually asked for cocaine... it'd have been rejected.
10:35 ThickAsThieves you dont like how we do business, fine we dont want your money
10:35 mircea_popescu more like "you think anyone asked you ? shut up and get out of my office"
10:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 26 @ 0.02419615 = 0.6291 BTC [+] {3}
10:37 mircea_popescu "There is no reason why the Justice Department couldn't have snatched up everybody at HSBC involved with the trafficking, prosecuted them criminally, and worked with banking regulators to make sure that the bank survived the transition to new management."
10:37 mircea_popescu herp.
10:38 mircea_popescu after the strauss debacle, the us as much as trying this will result in the respective agents being shot on the spot.
10:39 Nick_Szabo money laundering is a human right!
10:39 mircea_popescu property is the first and only right.
10:40 mircea_popescu legal fiction may not impede on that.
10:40 truffles that article is pretty crazy, how does one maintain law n order if everyone's corrupt!
10:40 Nick_Szabo one redefineds corrupt
10:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.31399 BTC [-]
10:41 mircea_popescu or "law and order"
10:41 asciilifeform j.e.hoover: 'justice is incidental to law and order.'
10:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.31398998 BTC [-]
10:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1696 @ 0.00309911 = 5.2561 BTC [+] {2}
10:45 mircea_popescu i seriously wonder at the degree of delusion us press must be belabouring under, to imagine saying " would threaten the stability of the financial system" does not immediately and transparently mapped to "they told us they will fuck us up, permanently. we believed them, because they had a point."
10:46 mircea_popescu s/does/is
10:47 jurov anyone who does not operate under delusion gets their computers shredded (like guardian) or worse
10:47 mircea_popescu i guess.
10:47 asciilifeform 'X can also have problems.'
10:48 mircea_popescu i guess i'm just used to much grittier new yorkers
10:48 mircea_popescu the current crop mostly sounds like they've crawled out of a hipster's arse.
10:49 mircea_popescu o wait, that was the rolling stones not the new yorker
10:49 mircea_popescu never mind.
10:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 4705 @ 0.001 = 4.705 BTC
10:51 KRS|Gotyawallet pfft. i dont pay that stuff no mind.
10:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.05 = 0.45 BTC [+]
10:52 KRS|Gotyawallet so like i was thinking of someplace to flee to when the U.S. takes a shit..somlia or some third world country a nigga like me could be living well
10:53 KRS|Gotyawallet this is teh lulz https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BcHsuW3CYAADDh2.jpg
10:53 truffles u prob wont be able to leave by then
10:53 Nick_Szabo NY Times sorta does article on CloudHashing.com http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2013/12/21/into-the-bitcoin-mines/
10:54 KRS|Gotyawallet I have bitcoin. There's a line for us.
10:55 asciilifeform amazing business model! 1) accept u.s. refugees 2) rectothermal cryptoanalysis 3) profit!
10:55 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
10:55 Nick_Szabo this article seems dangerous to me in that it wil help Cloudhashing sell more PMBs
10:55 KRS|Gotyawallet lol! at first glance it looks like those contracts will never make roi
10:55 Nick_Szabo evidenced here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=382154.msg1521109;topicseen#new
10:56 KRS|Gotyawallet ever
10:56 KRS|Gotyawallet its almost folly
10:56 deadweasel white house flailing: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/22/us/white-house-tries-to-prevent-judge-from-ruling-on-surveillance-efforts.html?_r=0
11:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.0008454 = 10.1025 BTC [+] {3}
11:06 Nick_Szabo but without secrets people will know the truth!
11:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.0004 = 0.4 BTC [-] {2}
11:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 150 @ 0.00313332 = 0.47 BTC [+] {2}
11:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 348 @ 0.00317397 = 1.1045 BTC [+] {7}
11:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 25498 @ 0.00012 = 3.0598 BTC [+]
11:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 300000 @ 0.00012 = 36 BTC [+]
11:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 150000 @ 0.00012 = 18 BTC [+]
11:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 120000 @ 0.00012 = 14.4 BTC [+]
11:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 30000 @ 0.00012 = 3.6 BTC [+]
11:38 Nick_Szabo http://gizmodo.com/crazy-hacker-wants-to-save-bitcoin-by-blasting-a-cubesa-1487464486
11:38 ozbot Crazy Hacker Wants to Save Bitcoin by Blasting a CubeSat into Space
11:38 Nick_Szabo crazy hacker?
11:39 mikaeldice Everyone who owns bitcoin is a 'crazy hacker', didn't you know?
11:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 100000 @ 0.00012 = 12 BTC [+]
11:43 Rulother amazing hackers
11:43 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
11:44 asciilifeform ;;later tell mircea_popescu boards are here!
11:44 gribble The operation succeeded.
11:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 100000 @ 0.00012 = 12 BTC [+]
11:45 pankkake skateboards? (hackers' number one accessory)
11:45 assbot [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C065N] 4 @ 0.04544855 = 0.1818 BTC [-]
11:46 assbot [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P065N] 4 @ 0.06218201 = 0.2487 BTC
11:48 mikaeldice Could be planks for a pirate ship
11:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 100000 @ 0.00012 = 12 BTC [+]
11:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.31399499 = 0.628 BTC [+] {2}
11:50 Apocalyptic pankkake, hackers != teens
11:52 pankkake I was joking about media stereotypes (and the suberb movie Hackers)
11:56 kakobrekla kraken has skateboards
11:57 pankkake not bitstamp?
11:59 kakobrekla those two have teslas or something
12:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.31550001 BTC [+]
12:00 pankkake electric skateboards
12:00 pankkake they have the skateboard age at least
12:06 nubbins` http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-12-2013#430051
12:06 nubbins` ^ what?
12:06 ozbot #bitcoin-assets log
12:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.3157 = 1.5785 BTC [+] {3}
12:08 Nick_Szabo mp aint here to elaborate
12:08 Nick_Szabo but surely he's blogged about it
12:09 nubbins` seems like a bit of a wank
12:12 thestringpuller mp is a poopoo
12:12 thestringpuller jk
12:12 nubbins` no, i meant the idea seemed like a bit of a wank
12:13 nubbins` although i'm now reading some background info on the topic
12:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 51 @ 0.00293 = 0.1494 BTC [-]
12:13 Nick_Szabo well its what we do
12:13 Nick_Szabo intellectually wank
12:14 Nick_Szabo like my invention of bitcoin
12:14 Nick_Szabo just a big wank
12:14 Nick_Szabo once we get everyone on board, i'll pull the plug
12:14 Nick_Szabo then the healing can begin
12:15 nubbins` seems like the legal concept of expropriation flies right in the face of the right to property
12:16 pankkake why wouldn't it?
12:16 pankkake I know a guy with similar ideas (property=everything). gets interesting discussions about exploding couches
12:18 Nick_Szabo why cant they coexist nubs?
12:18 Nick_Szabo these contradictions are everywhere
12:18 nubbins` well, so i have the right to property
12:18 nubbins` city says hey, lel, we want to do X with your property
12:19 Nick_Szabo the gov also takes life when it sees fit
12:19 nubbins` here's a few bucks, can't say no
12:19 Nick_Szabo surely the most basic right
12:19 nubbins` here in canada, the government doesn't take life
12:20 pankkake canada has no army?
12:20 Nick_Szabo i like canada
12:20 Nick_Szabo wish it werent so cold
12:20 nubbins` pankkake: sure we do
12:21 nubbins` but the army doesn't kill canadian nationals :P
12:21 pankkake oh, totally ok then! :o)
12:21 Nick_Szabo i was thinking today about whether the whether never changing in area is related to the people never changing
12:21 Nick_Szabo weather*
12:21 Nick_Szabo hehe
12:21 nubbins` i mean, really, until we got involved in afghanistan and iraq, the canadian army generally didn't kill anyone
12:22 nubbins` anyway, pretty heavy lel that the USA enshrines the right to life in their declaration of independence, but has the death penalty
12:25 pankkake yet issues with abortion and euthanasia! why not kill everyone
12:27 ThickAsThieves reddit is in love with Andreas Antonopoulis lately
12:27 nubbins` pankkake: anti-choice crowd says life begins at conception, right?
12:30 ThickAsThieves probly depends who you ask
12:30 pankkake something like that
12:31 nubbins` consider that more than 50% of fertilized eggs fail to implant in the uterus wall
12:31 pankkake but it's not easy to define "life"
12:31 nubbins` MORE THAN HALF of the "babies" die in the womb fully on their own
12:31 pankkake and then independant life. is the baby a parasite?
12:31 nubbins` "pro-life" crowd gives zero fucks about this
12:31 nubbins` it's almost like it's not about life, but about controlling women's pussies
12:32 pankkake I've spent *years* of my trolling career on the topic - not by choice really, just was the issue we didn't agree on
12:32 KRS|Gotyawallet its all about dat ass
12:32 Duffer1 it's pro life until you're born, then it's "fuck you"
12:32 nubbins` Duffer1: +1
12:32 deadweasel ^
12:32 pankkake of course. everyone has an hidden agenda
12:32 nubbins` it's almost like having to carry an unwanted baby to term is punishment for being a dirty slut
12:32 deadweasel nope, it's in the faq
12:33 ThickAsThieves it might be a male control thing in the sense that,
12:33 nubbins` their argument is based in morals, just not the morals that you think they're arguing for :D
12:33 ThickAsThieves they want to be deciding what gets aborted and what doesnt
12:33 ThickAsThieves not the woman
12:34 nubbins` tat, might be? :D
12:34 pankkake I don't particularly enjoy abortion-as-contraception
12:34 nubbins` pankkake: neither do women.
12:34 pankkake though less babies is always a win!
12:34 ThickAsThieves itd be a crime if some woman killed your baby, or if some daughter deprived you of your grandkid
12:35 ThickAsThieves etc
12:35 pankkake eh… they might not enjoy it after the fact, sure
12:35 nubbins` anti-choice folks like to pretend that women having abortions think it's all a big lel
12:35 nubbins` failing to understand that it's a life-altering choice either way
12:36 nubbins` consider that canada has no abortion laws whatsoever, and we still manage to have a functioning society
12:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 102 @ 0.00293 = 0.2989 BTC [-]
12:38 pankkake you mean no anti-abortion laws? or can anyone be an abortion provider
12:38 KRS|Gotyawallet Canada is right on..they might be the only ones who know what they're doing.
12:38 nubbins` i mean there are no laws on the books regarding abortion. at all.
12:39 pankkake interesting
12:39 nubbins` obviously you need to be a doctor to perform one
12:39 nubbins` but that's covered by laws about medical procedures
12:40 nubbins` http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Morgentaler
12:40 ozbot Henry Morgentaler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
12:42 nubbins` ^ guy performed over 5k illegal abortions before winning a court case and having the laws struck down in 1988
12:43 nubbins` 20 years later, awarded the Order of Canada for his work
12:44 pankkake had 2 kids still. didn't hate babies enough
12:45 ThickAsThieves his wife mustve oppressed him from it
12:52 pankkake I only use brain surgeons that are in my web of trust
12:56 jcpham much trust very amaze
12:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 20000 @ 0.00011998 = 2.3996 BTC [-] {3}
12:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.0242 = 0.242 BTC [+]
13:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 49 @ 0.00329998 = 0.1617 BTC [+]
13:06 ThickAsThieves cloudhashing in NYT too... http://imgur.com/ZcnVf9z
13:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00084271 = 3.2866 BTC [-]
13:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00084048 = 5.8834 BTC [-]
13:08 the20year Does the baby get a choice whether they live or not?
13:09 ThickAsThieves does a sperm?
13:10 the20year The sperm's owner gets a say where it's deposited
13:10 ThickAsThieves there ya go
13:10 ThickAsThieves property
13:11 the20year but it isn't a person
13:11 pankkake at what point your sperm (or its mutation) ceases to be your property?
13:12 the20year and the problem lies that either people are human for a set number of traits, or they are not, and inside or outside the womb isn't much of a qualifier
13:14 benkay or we could just bring back the notion that property is the only constant and that humans too can be property.
13:14 benkay not a terribly popular stance, but resolves this question about who does what with the newt.
13:14 pankkake so all your children are property? until…?
13:15 benkay they can feed themselves?
13:15 mike_c sanity check: bitcoincharts won't give historical trade data anymore? correct?
13:15 benkay i'm sure better criteria can be come up with.
13:16 mike_c their docs still say yes, but the api seems to say no.
13:17 mike_c like this: http://api.bitcoincharts.com/v1/trades.csv?symbol=mtgoxUSD&start=1386901071
13:17 benkay !t m s.mpoe
13:17 assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00084048 / 0.00084511 / 0.00085172 (805353 shares, 680.61 BTC), 7D: 0.00084048 / 0.00088221 / 0.00091394 (6297937 shares, 5,556.13 BTC), 30D: 0.00077921 / 0.00086938 / 0.00091394 (15661230 shares, 13,615.68 BTC)
13:18 mike_c first unix time is 1387390488, which is pretty far from 1386901071
13:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00084535 = 5.7906 BTC [+]
13:19 mike_c i will take the silence as "yes, idiot, everyone already knew that".
13:19 benkay now now
13:19 benkay it's not like anyone in here actually does anything bitcoin-related ;)
13:20 mike_c hehe
13:20 benkay probably "who knows! nobody in here touches that shit except the MPOE bot..."
13:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.06969999 = 1.394 BTC [+] {3}
13:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 95 @ 0.00320909 = 0.3049 BTC [+] {4}
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13:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 37 @ 0.00293 = 0.1084 BTC [-]
13:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 40 @ 0.02100001 = 0.84 BTC [-] {3}
13:56 nubbins` the20year: babies are incapable of making choices
13:56 nubbins` and, fwiw, aren't babies until they've been born
13:56 the20year and the difference between a baby inside a person and a baby outside said person?
13:56 benkay none!
13:57 Duffer1 oh good, we're still talking about this..
13:57 benkay well, one's intimately attached to the life support system; the other can scream on its own.
13:58 the20year Babies can't scream in the womb?
13:58 benkay in the womb, noone can hear you scream.
13:58 nubbins` babies cannot scream in the womb.
13:58 nubbins` (seriously?)
13:58 Duffer1 hehe
13:58 benkay i actually have no idea
13:58 nubbins` neither can fetuses
13:59 benkay always figured air played a role in the production of sound with vocal cords
13:59 nubbins` nod
13:59 the20year They feel pain when they are killed, according to all the studies I've seen
13:59 the20year And not all babies that are born scream
13:59 KRS|Gotyawallet I would if I were born.
13:59 benkay the cows i eat also feel pain when they aren't killed right quick
14:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18700 @ 0.00084303 = 15.7647 BTC [-] {3}
14:02 nubbins` the20year: got a link? curious to read
14:03 fiat500 sounds delicious
14:03 fiat500 protein with a side of agony
14:04 ThickAsThieves funny cuz its true?
14:04 the20year http://www.gargaro.com/fetalpain.html
14:04 ozbot Does the Fetus Feel Pain? Summary of a Presentation
14:05 ThickAsThieves thats 3mos though
14:05 pankkake do plants feel pain?
14:05 ThickAsThieves people abort often at 3mos?
14:06 nubbins` no
14:06 nubbins` and 20 weeks is 4.5 months
14:06 ThickAsThieves he said 12-14weeks likely feels pain too
14:06 nubbins` 88% of abortions occur before 12 weeks
14:06 ThickAsThieves makes sense
14:06 nubbins` most after that point are medically necessary
14:07 nubbins` the anti-choicers don't like to talk about that tho
14:07 nubbins` only 1.5% occur after week 20
14:08 nubbins` but ya know
14:08 nubbins` HUGE PROBLEM etc
14:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00084526 = 6.7621 BTC [+]
14:12 the20year Sadly 80% of abortions could be prevented with free IUDs
14:13 mike_c well for the record, they do still seem to be maintaining their all-time list at http://api.bitcoincharts.com/v1/csv/
14:13 pankkake it seems doctors don't want to give IUDs to females without children
14:13 mike_c and I'll email them and ask them whether they are pro-life or pro-choice.
14:14 the20year Some do, some do not, I know when planned parenthood here in the US offered free IUDs to anyone that wanted them, the rate of abortions in that area went down significantly for quite some time
14:20 nubbins` IUDs are a bit more painful to insert if you haven't had a kid yet
14:20 nubbins` that said, they're more effective than condoms or the pill
14:20 nubbins` relatively inexpensive over their lifespan
14:21 nubbins` (3-10 years)
14:21 nubbins` and you get to fuck without a rubber.
14:21 nubbins` mike_c: ask if they're anti-life or anti-choice instead.
14:27 benkay` iud's are tits
14:28 benkay` massively reduced hormone load
14:28 benkay` targeted delivery
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14:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.04389999 = 0.1317 BTC [+] {2}
14:46 ThickAsThieves http://buttcoin.org/merry-bitmas
14:46 ozbot Merry Bitmas - Buttcoin - The P2P crypto-currency for butts. - Buttcoin - It's Bitcoins with Butts -
14:46 ThickAsThieves "Glad I waited until the last minute to buy everybody Bitcoin for Christmas."
14:46 ThickAsThieves hehe
14:48 ThickAsThieves http://www.theawl.com/2013/12/the-politics-of-the-next-dimension-do-ghosts-have-civil-rights
14:48 ozbot The Ghostbusters Profile In "The Atlantic"
14:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00084041 = 8.9924 BTC [-]
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15:14 jborkl So, the picture Hashfast twitted - had a metal fork, a tub of popcorn and a case where I could not see a power cord plugged in
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15:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 70 @ 0.05 = 3.5 BTC [+]
15:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00084034 = 7.1429 BTC [-]
15:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19698 @ 0.00084034 = 16.553 BTC [-]
15:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.00084059 = 1.471 BTC [+] {2}
16:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.31599999 BTC [+]
16:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.31599999 BTC [+]
16:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 83 @ 0.0033 = 0.2739 BTC [+]
16:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05 = 0.15 BTC [+]
16:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02419999 = 0.121 BTC [+]
16:21 jurov jborkl, it gonna work on zero-point energy
16:22 the20year That'd be fun
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16:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00084173 = 12.7101 BTC [+] {2}
17:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 649 @ 0.0004 = 0.2596 BTC [-]
17:04 jurov http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/12/fbi-copyrighted-interrogation-manual-unredacted-secrets lmao
17:04 ozbot You'll Never Guess Where This FBI Agent Left a Secret Interrogation Manual | Mother Jones
17:06 jurov http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/12/behold-the-worlds-first-digitally-signed-international-agreement/282582/
17:06 ozbot Behold: The World's First Digitally Signed International Agreement - Uri Friedman - The Atlantic
17:06 jurov next thing they actually come in WoT
17:07 jurov <estonia>;;rate finland -1 scammers
17:08 jurov (fixed) <estonia>;;rate finland -1 drunk scammers
17:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00084093 = 4.7092 BTC [-]
17:10 ThickAsThieves hehe
17:11 benkay` can't get in wot from windows
17:12 Duffer1_ gpg4win
17:12 nubbins` what's windows?
17:13 jurov you can use wot with btc privkey nao
17:13 benkay` not entirely serious Duffer1
17:13 Duffer1_ oh :)
17:13 asciilifeform in other news, mikhail kalashnikov is dead.
17:13 nubbins` yeah, heard
17:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.02409999 = 0.1446 BTC [-] {2}
17:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16231 @ 0.0008402 = 13.6373 BTC [-] {4}
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17:36 mod6 ahh, wow. :(
17:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.001 = 0.2 BTC
17:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00083951 = 0.5877 BTC [-]
17:47 mircea_popescu .d
17:47 ozbot 1180923195.25803 | Next Diff in 1591 blocks | Estimated Change: 14.0725% in 9d 11h 44m 10s
17:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.31599998 BTC [-]
17:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC
17:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2999 @ 0.001 = 2.999 BTC
17:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00083948 = 4.9529 BTC [-] {2}
17:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00084254 = 6.1505 BTC [+] {2}
18:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 749 @ 0.001 = 0.749 BTC
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18:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4027 @ 0.00084241 = 3.3924 BTC [-]
19:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0489002 = 0.2445 BTC [-] {3}
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19:20 benkay` In a paper entitled “Regulating Digital Currencies: Bringing Bitcoin Within the Reach of the IMF,” Nicholas A. Plassaras suggests that the International Monetary Fund is ill-equipped to handle the widespread use of bitcoins into the foreign exchange market, highlighting the inability of the Fund to intervene in the event of a speculative attack on a country’s currency by bitcoin users.
19:20 benkay` that *would* be the point.
19:20 benkay` https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2248419
19:20 ozbot Regulating Digital Currencies: Bringing Bitcoin within the Reach of the IMF by Nicholas Plassaras :
19:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 82 @ 0.0035 = 0.287 BTC [+]
19:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0488101 = 0.4881 BTC [-] {3}
19:24 mircea_popescu benkay` exactly.
19:24 mircea_popescu pinky ring.
19:24 benkay` pinky ring?
19:25 Duffer1_ harder to bribe 3rd world puppets with bitcoin though, imf may pressure authorities to try to do something
19:25 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-12-2013#415211
19:25 ozbot #bitcoin-assets log
19:26 benkay` aaaah.
19:28 benkay` D. The Vices of Digital Currency
19:28 benkay` 1. Uncertainty
19:28 benkay` 2. Lack of regulation
19:28 benkay` 3. Network Externalities
19:28 benkay` we are so far gone that lack of regulation is a vice.
19:28 mircea_popescu not we.
19:28 mircea_popescu they.
19:28 benkay` this appeared in a conversation about e-cigarettes recently, where the idea of regulating these vaporizing devices was broadly hailed in the room as a grand thing.
19:29 benkay` ofc
19:29 mircea_popescu the nigger of the future is easily recognised in the present by his desire for shackles.
19:29 mircea_popescu many years later these shackles will be presented as a symbol of opression,
19:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00084241 = 3.0327 BTC [-]
19:29 mircea_popescu but for now they are in fact a symbol of identity.
19:29 Vexual mr plassaras seems to drive himslef towards the solution that the imf should get a fuckton of bitcoin there
19:29 mircea_popescu Vexual except it will have to pay for it.
19:30 Vexual or member states
19:30 mircea_popescu basically the imf is about six months late to the party. real countries mine since summer.
19:30 mircea_popescu the eu is hee hawing in winter.
19:30 Vexual still doesnt work
19:30 benkay` the six month lag won't be that big of a deal in the long run
19:31 mircea_popescu IF they shut the fuck up and got with the program.
19:31 mircea_popescu except they're too locklin to get it
19:32 benkay` too locklin!
19:32 mircea_popescu (locklin being the new way to say dumb, as per http://trilema.com/2013/how-to-fail-the-scott-locklin-method/ )
19:32 benkay` oh i get it
19:32 benkay` i was appreciating the term coinage.
19:33 benkay` doubt it'll stick, but amusing.
19:33 mircea_popescu it's a good word, you know ? some countries are landlocked,
19:33 mircea_popescu some people are locklin
~ 20 minutes ~
19:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3105 BTC [-]
19:55 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/trilema-the-rift-guild/
19:55 ozbot Trilema, the Rift guild pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
19:57 Vexual nice horns
19:57 mircea_popescu >D
~ 15 minutes ~
20:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 140 @ 0.00266918 = 0.3737 BTC [-] {12}
20:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 89 @ 0.00221123 = 0.1968 BTC [-] {3}
~ 25 minutes ~
20:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2505 @ 0.00012 = 0.3006 BTC [+] {2}
20:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1128 @ 0.00012 = 0.1354 BTC [+] {2}
21:03 netSam Ne pointers on how to quickly buy bitcoins?
21:03 netSam I need some crpytoliquidity fast
21:03 netSam And MTgox wants a wire transfer ---
21:04 Duffer1_ localbitcoins.com
21:04 Duffer1_ or #bitcoin-otc
21:07 netSam does local bitcoin provide any protections for the buyers?
21:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.07333333 = 0.44 BTC [-] {4}
21:13 mircea_popescu netSam fast doesn't work for bitcoin.
21:13 mircea_popescu take your time.
21:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1444 @ 0.00011022 = 0.1592 BTC [-] {6}
21:17 netSam : (
21:17 netSam Thanks!
21:21 mircea_popescu if sturles is still around you can probably paypal him some dollars for a little btc dust just so you have some
21:22 mircea_popescu but that aside, spend your first months reading.
21:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 37 @ 0.00310031 = 0.1147 BTC [-] {3}
21:23 KRS|Gotyawallet curious, whats your rush netSam?
21:23 Duffer1_ christmas present?
21:23 KRS|Gotyawallet must be
21:25 mircea_popescu heard about btc, got excited ?
21:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 598 @ 0.00036033 = 0.2155 BTC [+] {4}
21:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.09439996 = 0.2832 BTC [+] {3}
21:26 netSam I wanted to get in on the Doge fever and Scrypt mining on a Geforce gpu sucks
21:26 mircea_popescu you're late for that.
21:27 Duffer1_ ah don't listen to 4chan for investment advice
21:27 netSam 200% rise today bro
21:27 netSam 200 % is 200% no matter where you cut the numbrs
21:28 Duffer1_ it's only a gain if you're not the one holding the bag when those scammers cash out
21:28 netSam We'll see
21:29 Duffer1_ good luck man, i hope it works out for you
21:35 mircea_popescu 200% is not 200% no matter how you cut the numbers.
21:35 mircea_popescu Duffer1_ see ? he knows better than you.
21:36 Duffer1_ brb buying doge
21:37 mircea_popescu lol
21:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29901101 BTC [-]
21:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.001 = 0.2 BTC
21:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00306385 = 0.2451 BTC [+] {2}
21:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00084241 = 2.4009 BTC [-]
21:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 650 @ 0.001 = 0.65 BTC
21:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4948 @ 0.00011 = 0.5443 BTC [-]
~ 28 minutes ~
22:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.299 BTC [-]
22:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 112 @ 0.00329999 = 0.3696 BTC [+] {4}
22:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.0033014 = 0.1651 BTC [+]
22:43 deadweasel ;;ticker
22:43 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 708.627, Best ask: 711.40999, Bid-ask spread: 2.78299, Last trade: 708.627, 24 hour volume: 13797.10364250, 24 hour low: 655.0, 24 hour high: 729.99174, 24 hour vwap: 688.75163
22:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 12 @ 0.02201 = 0.2641 BTC [-]
~ 19 minutes ~
23:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3942 @ 0.00084213 = 3.3197 BTC [-]
23:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00084241 = 8.9295 BTC [+]
~ 33 minutes ~
23:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC
23:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11064 @ 0.00084256 = 9.3221 BTC [+] {3}
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