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00:21 BingoBoingo !~later tell Ingolfr_Arnarson Who is your daddy and what does he do?
00:21 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
~ 16 minutes ~
00:37 davout ohai, guten morgen
00:39 BingoBoingo Good morning to you davout, our favorite resident of the Dark Island.
00:40 deedbot http://qntra.net/2017/01/hussein-bahamas-commutes-sentence-of-chelsea-nee-bradley-manning/ << Qntra - Hussein Bahamas Commutes Sentence Of Chelsea (nee. Bradley) Manning
00:50 deedbot http://qntra.net/2017/01/police-clear-weapons-caches-in-dc-parks-ahead-of-trump-inauguration/ << Qntra - Police Clear Weapons Caches In DC Parks Ahead Of Trump Inauguration
~ 24 minutes ~
01:15 davout currently appearing right next to each other on lefigaro.fr
01:15 davout http://www.lefigaro.fr/secteur/high-tech/2017/01/18/32001-20170118ARTFIG00014-pepe-l-histoire-d-une-grenouille-devenue-la-mascotte-de-l-extreme-droite-sur-internet.php
01:15 davout http://www.lefigaro.fr/elections/presidentielles/primaires-gauche/2017/01/17/35005-20170117ARTFIG00277-manuel-valls-gilfe-lors-d-un-deplacement-en-bretagne.php
01:16 davout "Son humour est absurde et souvent à base de fluides corporels."
~ 4 hours 52 minutes ~
06:08 shinohai !~later tell BingoBoingo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/HnqF9/?raw=true
06:08 jhvh1 shinohai: The operation succeeded.
~ 2 hours 11 minutes ~
08:20 mircea_popescu le figaro, translating from ustardian newspapers two months later. they still get them by boat in the provinces or what ?
08:21 mircea_popescu the whole pepe fake news thing didn't go anywhere pre-elections and lost ~all relevancy nov 8th
~ 26 minutes ~
08:48 davout fun times to be living in when fishwraps report about internet memes
08:50 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/0CD9A20A2B24AC1479376D379E7FE5BC721141416BFE0C5DFD3A2DA7E8163123 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1635...7089 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '85.119.154.51 (ssh-rsa key from 85.119.154.51 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (alpha.ammann-alz.ch. DE NW)
08:50 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/0CD9A20A2B24AC1479376D379E7FE5BC721141416BFE0C5DFD3A2DA7E8163123 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1481...7729 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '85.119.154.51 (ssh-rsa key from 85.119.154.51 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (alpha.ammann-alz.ch. DE NW)
~ 1 hours 23 minutes ~
10:14 mircea_popescu dat sad fucking day when the top result for francois perrier in both text and images comes from fucking trilema.
10:14 mircea_popescu davout tell the idiots over at le figaro it's game over. seriously now.
10:17 trinque wat
10:18 trinque he's getting connection timeouts so far trying to reconnect
10:19 mircea_popescu who ?
10:19 trinque herr deedbot
10:19 trinque ah must be freenode sandstorm day again
10:21 shinohai !~weather
10:21 jhvh1 stormy with a chance of packeting
10:21 trinque lol
~ 19 minutes ~
10:41 deedbot http://trilema.com/2017/late-to-the-party-as-usual/ << Trilema - Late to the party. As usual.
~ 24 minutes ~
11:05 asciilifeform woah that's the dourest looking mircea_popescu face thus far
11:07 mircea_popescu i was reading some stupid shit online.
11:07 mircea_popescu (the pic is actually from luxor, 2003)
~ 18 minutes ~
11:26 asciilifeform http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-38664225 << in other noose. Use Moar Leadfree Solder!!
11:26 asciilifeform 'Across the 18 satellites now in orbit, nine clocks have stopped operating. Three are traditional rubidium devices; six are the more precise hydrogen maser instruments that were designed to give Galileo superior performance to the American GPS network.'
11:26 mircea_popescu iirc the galileo system was never seriously intended to have reliable satellites. the plan was lots of them
11:27 mircea_popescu in other nutty, apparently there's a rather active tlp subreddit. in case anyone's unclear as to how "foss" works : they'll soon enough come up with a tlp 2.0 and then discontinue the original website.
~ 26 minutes ~
11:53 asciilifeform in a continuation of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-17#1604239 >> https://archive.is/AQPoU
11:53 a111 Logged on 2017-01-17 16:06 mircea_popescu: suppose you met an ant one day, and this and told you in morse code its whole genome.
11:56 mircea_popescu apparently author experienced complete loss of interest in grammar also.
11:56 asciilifeform most likely never was literate.
11:57 asciilifeform (it is rare among young folx in monkeystan, nao.)
11:57 mircea_popescu but he's 23 and for MANY YEARS was extremely pro-startup. which illuminates why start-up had to lose the dash.
11:57 asciilifeform pretty sure it was pg who cut out its dash.
11:57 asciilifeform (why, i do not know, ask him not me)
11:58 mircea_popescu originally my "trei ani de experienta" (three years' experience) was a stab at the deeply illiterate, cargo-cultish third world shithole that was romania.
11:58 mircea_popescu meanwhile the us has closed the gap.
11:58 asciilifeform dunno if there ever ~was~ a gap.
11:58 mircea_popescu possibly just more successful at repressing the mass of idiots.
11:59 mircea_popescu "I convinced my self for so long that whatever I was doing was going to be great and help lots of people, but it didn't."
11:59 mircea_popescu myeah. almost made me want to leave a comment. but, not gonna bother.
12:00 mircea_popescu the cries of help from the abjectly humble may be heeded ; but hn has too much accumulated sin on its back.
12:08 mircea_popescu anyway. these "engineers" making their own bed... seriously now ? MEN WITH JOBS! JERRY! AND SECRETATIES!
12:08 mircea_popescu who the fuck makes his own bed ; and why the fuck do they think they have anything to say that may interest anyone.
12:09 asciilifeform at one point (mid-2000s) i quasi-regularly read hn. it always had a background hum of wagner/cyanide, but carefully filtered, the way slaughterhouse keeps the squeals isolated to one end of the conveyor, so as not to frighten the incoming pigs.
12:10 mircea_popescu i suppose if i gave half a shit about "online" and "the web" and whatnot in 2000s i might have read it too. as it happens, i didn't.
12:11 asciilifeform i didn't either. just bored.
12:11 mircea_popescu so i guess i miss out on most of the... what is it, "this used to be not bad" roots of the nonsense, much like my girls that started watching mtv in 2005 rather than the 90s.
12:12 mircea_popescu but yes, mtv was kinda... not bad, in 1995. not like it was great or anything, but by the time it "yo mtv raps" and so on it was clearly off the rails.
12:12 asciilifeform fwiw i never saw it and don't have a feeling of having missed anything.
12:13 mircea_popescu exactly how this works. the "had to have been there" sort of joke, not really funny in any sense.
12:13 asciilifeform i read reddit/hn, & co., for a short while because it had a subculture of commonlisp folx. then stayed tuned for no good reason for a spell, from inertia.
12:14 mircea_popescu yeah, where do lisp people hang out these days, outside of #chainstate ?
12:14 asciilifeform in phf's/ben_vulpes's/trinque's chairs...
12:15 mircea_popescu "as of december 2016 mtyv no longer plays music videos" ahahahaha
12:17 deedbot http://qntra.net/2017/01/ether-camp-breaks-out-in-cheating-accusations-after-huffing-orgy/ << Qntra - Ether.camp Breaks Out In Cheating Accusations After Huffing Orgy
12:18 mircea_popescu ahh that slow motion trainwreck is such comedy gold.
~ 20 minutes ~
12:39 * asciilifeform had a dream last night, that he was tending a threadbare patch of ground in afghan. and another dream that he visited mircea_popescu's house, and it turned out to be a massive derelict freighter, tastefully rockefellerized on the inside.
12:40 mircea_popescu nice!
12:42 shinohai This is what you get for digging graves for cats at midnite asciilifeform ..... I think Samuel Clemens warned about things like this happening.
12:43 asciilifeform shinohai: i thought it was edgar poe who warned.
12:44 shinohai "Why, you take your cat and go and get in the graveyard 'long about midnight when somebody that was wicked has been buried; and when it's midnight a devil will come, or maybe two or three"
12:46 BingoBoingo Anyways the lesson of yesterday's log is that asciilifeform needs a warm wet cotton rag to help the next kitten.
12:47 asciilifeform what does that do
12:49 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: It lick the butthole without your tongue so kitty can poop
12:49 asciilifeform what sort of defective species is this.
12:49 BingoBoingo cat
12:50 BingoBoingo at some point cat grows to lick own butthole, but this is thing cat learns
12:50 shinohai I mean, we *all* have to learn how to lick buttholes.
12:54 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/0351549381C86B392E49437BC88CD95A42B4EBAD4B4F89E2DFF9851812D286AE << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1662...6497 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '210.173.241.186 (ssh-rsa key from 210.173.241.186 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (apipo.net. JP)
12:54 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/0351549381C86B392E49437BC88CD95A42B4EBAD4B4F89E2DFF9851812D286AE << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1713...2037 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '210.173.241.186 (ssh-rsa key from 210.173.241.186 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (apipo.net. JP)
12:54 trinque when I had two kittens around, I just folded the things in half until they got the message
12:54 trinque messy buttholes are forbidden
~ 36 minutes ~
13:31 mats mm, butts
13:41 asciilifeform http://www.defensenews.com/articles/engine-drops-out-of-b-52-during-training-at-minot-air-force-base << somehow missed this gem.
13:44 asciilifeform 'The Boeing-manufactured bomber has been flying since 1952 and is expected to remain operating until around 2040, depending on when it is fully replaced by the Northrop Grumman’s B-21. ' << b21 is the bomberized chumpatronic equiv. of the mega-imaginary f35. ~21 bil. usd already contracted, in 2015! for delivery in.. 2040.
13:44 mats in moar 'accidents', http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AF_NIGERIA_BOMBING_ERROR
13:44 mircea_popescu ahahaha wtf
13:45 asciilifeform cost predicted to be ~500 mil. each, iirc.
13:45 mircea_popescu how does an engine fall out
13:45 mats 'accidentally' bombed a refugee camp like usg accidentally bombed a chinese embassy
13:45 mircea_popescu hey, they learned it at harvoxford
13:45 asciilifeform mats: that thing dun load
13:46 asciilifeform redirects to some 'select your state for latest news' nonsense
13:47 asciilifeform iirc (anyone has source?) 1 in 7 b52 built to date, burned down in ~training accidents~
~ 32 minutes ~
14:20 ben_vulpes i'm sure the nukes are in fine condition.
14:20 ben_vulpes very convinced.
14:20 ben_vulpes such a simple machine, detonator and compressive charge, how could anyone ever fuck that up.
14:28 pete_dushenski in other flying elephants, https://theconversation.com/why-zimbabwes-use-of-elephants-to-pay-off-old-debt-to-china-is-problematic-70873
14:28 mircea_popescu "we fucked up rhodesia and now the remnant doesn't think so much of us, oh noes"
14:30 pete_dushenski sorta how this works. nth generation libtard prof in kent thinks himself superior to injens, which is ironically just like granpappy
14:31 pete_dushenski that white priviledge is a stubborn stain
14:38 pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: you'll be pleased to hear that i resurrected cycling season today. +2C and studded winter tires were a combo i couldn't pass up. route that takes 25min in the summer took 35 through the snow and slush. will be trying for once a week going forward, weather permitting.
14:39 mircea_popescu so i just ran a count and among the ~4k or so different names, there's a <Nick_Szabo> !
14:40 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2013-12-23#430050 << but then, it was scam
14:40 a111 Logged on 2013-12-23 15:39 Nick_Szabo: money laundering is a human right!
14:41 pete_dushenski "Hi, Would you be interested in Email List of Toxicology Industry Professionals?" << that's a new spam angle.
14:46 ben_vulpes pete_dushenski: studded bike tires?
14:46 pete_dushenski oh yes, german ones.
14:47 ben_vulpes seems unnecessary
14:47 ben_vulpes fatties aren't adequate?
14:47 ben_vulpes ("i know what this entirely figured-out industrial process needs -- more steps and parts!")
14:48 pete_dushenski just swapped out tires on my normal road/crossover bike. 35mm is pretty narrow. didn't have the stomach for wider rims to accomodate wider tires. anyways, the studs are put to use.
14:50 pete_dushenski to use a mod6ism, it's slick as a minnow's dick out there.
14:50 ben_vulpes pete_dushenski: on the chains thread, perhaps worth pointing out that this area doesn't salt the roads.
14:50 pete_dushenski o! no gravel either ?
14:51 ben_vulpes nah
14:51 ben_vulpes most people get around in covered wagons anyways, so it's not that big of a deal.
14:53 pete_dushenski $tax all spent on homeless anyways
14:53 pete_dushenski at least this is my impression from reading ch. been a few years since i was in portland
14:54 ben_vulpes what tax, pdx issues bonds and goes into debt just like the big boys
14:55 pete_dushenski i have nfi. assumed you (or landlord) paid prop tax, gas tax, parking ticket tax, whatever else
14:56 ben_vulpes well yes ofc, but the point is that there's no hard coupling between revenues and expenses when the government can simply borrow more.
14:57 pete_dushenski s/$tax/$gov
14:58 pete_dushenski anyways, seems the height of incompetency not to do ~something~ when it snows. shovel, scrape, salt, sand. you've got the four s's right there. pick one.
15:02 ben_vulpes dunno how you got to "portland does nothing" from "no salt or sand". there are plows, they were out.
15:02 pete_dushenski aha
15:02 ben_vulpes moreover i live in clackamas county, where civilized men load the children and whiskey into the trucks and go plow each others streets for fun.
15:03 pete_dushenski that's like, off the grid, man.
15:03 ben_vulpes dependence on the state is cancer of the soul.
15:04 pete_dushenski don't need to tell me, i cashed their paycheques for years.
15:05 pete_dushenski reading journal entries from those years definitely sounds like i can soulcancer.
15:05 ben_vulpes salted roads another subtler check
15:07 pete_dushenski more lulzy spam today, "This is the only available means of communication to me, so I crave your indulgence to kindly read my email and I'll start by introducing my self, my name is Aisha Gaddafi the daughter of Muammar Gaddafi, the deposed and deceased former president of Libya. I am currently residing in Muscat the capital of Oman under political asylum along with my remaining three kids. Copy this
15:07 pete_dushenski wikipedia link and open in a new browser if you care to know more about me http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayesha_Gaddafi "
15:08 pete_dushenski does nigerian prince have own entry ? "look, i'm real! my wiki says so!"
15:11 ben_vulpes womens march continues to deliver top lols: http://janetmock.tumblr.com/post/156017232338/womens-march-sex-worker-inclusion
15:12 trinque "I reject the continual erasure of sex workers from our feminisms" << lel
15:12 deedbot http://trilema.com/2017/the-scum-and-its-hopes-dreams-and-aspirations-and-their-effects/ << Trilema - The scum ; and its hopes, dreams and aspirations ; and their effects
15:15 ben_vulpes trinque: fwiw, if a girl doesn't at least allow for other women to engage in sex work she can't be called a feminist
15:17 trinque sry my brain stopped processing at "our feminisms"
15:17 ben_vulpes gotta wail together or it doesn't work i guess
15:21 mircea_popescu the "sex work" thing is pretty lulzy.
~ 15 minutes ~
15:36 * asciilifeform confesses that this is one of the few trilema pieces that he found utterly opaque
15:37 asciilifeform possibly because i find the underlying wank that provoked it, quite mysterious
15:38 pete_dushenski i read it as "no one asked the untermensch what they think, but isn't it funny to get a glimpse inside of what they think they think" (part cccxiv)
15:39 trinque there's this prevalent american myth of the impotent nerd, probably generated by insecure TV/"film" writers in the latter 20th century
15:39 asciilifeform yes but which untermenschen, and what is it that they think.
15:39 asciilifeform trinque: impotent/defeated/despairing folx certainly exist
15:39 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: that's like asking "which clump of mud in the mudpit"
15:40 pete_dushenski which is the pecunia non olet bit
15:42 pete_dushenski trinque: and yet that impotent nerd character is 'supermanised' into bill gates, swordfish hackers, and snowden in the same breath. not that i have a model for this duality.
15:42 asciilifeform 'supermanised into snowden' ?!!!
15:42 ben_vulpes wasn't the swordfish hacker played up down and sideways?
15:42 pete_dushenski snowden has own official agitprop movie! citizenfour!
15:43 trinque pete_dushenski: I dunno that gates was ever cool, just in "the media" lots.
15:43 trinque guy always seemed like a bed wetter
15:43 pete_dushenski lol well put
15:43 asciilifeform is there a supermanised agitprop movie of martin and mitchell ?
15:43 asciilifeform y'know, the ~original~ snowdens
15:43 pete_dushenski i don't know ?
15:44 trinque 60s is too early for this thing
15:44 trinque you've gotta watch 80s trash like Revenge of the Nerds for the genesis
15:44 trinque current generation uses ^ as an excuse for their bottomless laziness
15:45 trinque anything but that she isn't fucking you because, you know, you didn't go over there and fuck
15:50 pete_dushenski hey, mom could've give dude a lift, cut him some slack that his dick's dry as the sahara.
15:50 mircea_popescu asciilifeform well, there's this whole "engineers are beta" thing.
15:51 mircea_popescu which is incomprehensible on the face.
15:51 asciilifeform re m & m, http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/lulz/m_and_m.png ( from http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/nsa/75791A.pdf ) >> apparently they considered taking out contract on m & m, but decided not to
15:52 mircea_popescu but basically is merging with an older "niggers are sex fiends" theme of racist thought. so by now it's "good white guys with small dicks being accountants" vs "evil niggers with clubdicks" sorta nonsense
15:53 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: afaik the 'engineers' thing is from the 'dilbertian iconography' where there is class warfare between precisely two types of being, the 'dour engineer' and 'pointy haired boss'
15:53 mircea_popescu no, no, the pointy hair boss isn't in this strip. it's more in the line of "good white boy goes on deployment, meanwhile his derpopotamus falls in the lures of black pimp/drug dealer, lives like her black sistas"
15:54 mircea_popescu which doublessly IS a vein, but which really has naught to do with either power or thought.
15:57 asciilifeform i thought when 'good boy went on deployment,' it is 'rear rat' who fucks his wife
15:57 mircea_popescu i suppose that's actually the demographic underlying the conceptual oddity, "red pill" subculture is mostly low wage rural whites, who work for a highway diner, go in afghanistan, etc.
15:57 asciilifeform or is this yet different movie.
15:58 mircea_popescu it's becoming quite evidently a poor-white-vs-poor-black dynamic, now that i think of it. "engineer" is there in the sense "ceo" is there in soap operas as the symbolic job of the husband. not like he ever does any ceo-ish things.
15:59 mircea_popescu apparently "the red pill" is the knownothing society of 2000s.
16:01 mircea_popescu in which perspective, "evolutionary biology & game theory" woo is the eugenics of 2000s.
16:06 mircea_popescu (how the fuck anyone even marginally conversant in the respective topics manages to wade through the bullshit is anyone's guess. but somehow a concept for group role in evolutionary biology became a brand of identity in "evolutionary biology", and we're all speaking of "alphas" and "betas" as if these are a thing, a brunette, a beta. i guess in a very postmodern cartoonish sense they are. aanyway.)
~ 19 minutes ~
16:25 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: that was actually the part i found to be the puzzler -- who exactly are these.
16:25 asciilifeform there does not seem to be a consistent definition in use.
~ 17 minutes ~
16:43 asciilifeform unrelatedly, https://triton.quarkslab.com/documentation/doxygen/py_ast_page.html << possibly spiffy, i have not tried
16:44 asciilifeform https://triton.quarkslab.com/documentation/doxygen/solver_interface_page.html << sexpr version
~ 15 minutes ~
16:59 asciilifeform in other noose, first freight train from china arrives in london, http://tass.ru/ekonomika/3950122 .
17:02 ben_vulpes that feel when your html renders just fine in lynx but chrome makes an unspeakable nightmare of it
17:10 asciilifeform and in yet-other noose, last d00d who walked the moon, reported dead.
~ 35 minutes ~
17:45 mircea_popescu asciilifeform which these ?
17:52 asciilifeform 'alphas' etc.
17:57 mircea_popescu well, a whore is the sexually active girl who won't fuck you ; and the alpha is the dude she'll fuck in preference. i'm pretty sure that's the extent of the common ground, ie, the "community" definition.
18:05 asciilifeform 'whore' must mean 'won't fuck you' on some other planet..?
18:06 mircea_popescu well this is altogether another planet.
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18:22 shinohai Lol Roger Ver got suspended from reddit
18:22 shinohai https://www.reddit.com/user/memorydealers
18:30 mircea_popescu for censorsheep ?
~ 25 minutes ~
18:56 BingoBoingo Prolly for brigading
18:58 shinohai Doxxing
18:59 shinohai gah doble `x`
18:59 mircea_popescu don't tell me he had a dispute over who's paying for the two slices of pizza with some other captain of industry and ended up going into the blockchain.info admin interface all over again
19:00 shinohai Best I can tell he posted a link to theymos' personal info
19:01 shinohai Which I freely posted 4 weeks ago and nothing happened.
19:08 mircea_popescu heh mkay.
19:09 * mircea_popescu vaguely recalls blowing the dude's "cover" sometime in 2013 or w/e that glbse shares scam happened.
19:09 mircea_popescu not like it was secret or anything
19:09 thestringpuller that was 2012
19:09 thestringpuller don't get senile on us
19:09 mircea_popescu aok
19:10 mircea_popescu dude, you have no idea, i was looking at trilema article earlier and had nfi what it's supposed to be, even.
19:10 mircea_popescu http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/charleston/how-not-to-depict-trump-wave-feminism/Content?oid=6423315 << in other buttlulz
19:11 mircea_popescu latinx women!!!
19:25 mircea_popescu oh and in other "people form the future : the next generation" http://d2vepvd49xw1a6.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/02071929/brian-dean-1.png
19:27 shinohai Why does it irk me when people wear tshirts with blazers or suit coats.
19:27 mircea_popescu well it's more like a burlap thing... call it a burlacket ?
19:27 thestringpuller he looks liek a gooback -> http://www.humanitysucks.com/blog/files/SP_goobacks.jpg
19:28 mircea_popescu anyway, no, dude's just new (post web 2.0) generation "seo expert" etc.
19:29 mircea_popescu which kinda makes me suspect the whole field's ripe for a generation change. "feminism" is certainly shattered post trump, so it looks like there may be a 6th wave brewing. and the 2nd generation seo dorks who came online with the "social media" revolution and web 2.0 idiocies are mostly falling back into regular jobs and boring marital arrangements so there's a void, to be filled.
19:30 mircea_popescu by people who do a lot of couch surfing and type on tablets.
19:30 thestringpuller all the SEO people I know ended up going into machine learning
19:31 thestringpuller only the girls end up fucking with google analytics in their 30s
19:31 mircea_popescu anyway, as far as "online web industry" is concerned, definite signs of a trumpocalypse. sort-of how there was a pre fdr and a post fdr or a pre lincoln and post lincoln america ; there's going to be i suspect a pre-trump and a post-trump web
19:41 thestringpuller asciilifeform: "During the manufacturing process, a unique set of keys are generated and stored in the processor’s fuse array. One of these fuse keys is not known by Intel and is one of the components used to form the basis for consistent derivation of subsequent sealing keys." << in other snorefest. "Unknown" to Intel during manufacturing...uh huh...
~ 1 hours 49 minutes ~
21:31 shinohai https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131574.msg1408985#msg1408985 "Some kind of blockchain recording everyone's trustworthyness would be an interesting tool to try to develop."
21:36 mircea_popescu lmao
21:37 mircea_popescu thanks god for tardstalk idea men, where'd we be without 'em
21:38 thestringpuller shinohai: a VER-ified trust store?
21:39 shinohai I was looking into that time when Ver doxed the guy over (at the time) $50 and found that gem
21:53 * asciilifeform under voodoo curse; 50-year-old genuine feature pillow finally detonated in the wash, made for 2+hrs of wetvac, and 'where the fuck do i get one of ~these~' experience
21:53 asciilifeform *feather pillow
21:54 * shinohai says nothing about the cat at midnite again
21:55 asciilifeform lel
21:55 thestringpuller asciilifeform: dunno if helps. but recently invested in tempurpedic-like pillow due to sleep issues. neck support made a difference.
21:55 thestringpuller altho most don't want to spend $200 on pillow
21:55 asciilifeform ick no american synthetic turdolade plox.
21:58 shinohai I bought a down pillow at JCPenny but has been a bit
21:58 mircea_popescu asciilifeform buy a coupla live ducks and oranges. make pekin duck and new pillows.
21:59 shinohai ^
21:59 asciilifeform i might have to use mircea_popescu's method. but it will take thousand years, because my proper pillow had 0 feather stems.
21:59 mircea_popescu you pick the down not the feathers eh.
21:59 asciilifeform tell this to the americans.
21:59 asciilifeform who happily sell ~with stems~
21:59 mircea_popescu i think they use a mechanic plucker, ~beat carcass with sticks
21:59 asciilifeform btw mine was made of chicken.
22:00 asciilifeform by hand. by great-grandparents.
22:00 mircea_popescu ah that's bs. virtually no down on chickens.
22:00 mircea_popescu also shittier down by a LONG shot
22:00 asciilifeform was ~just right~ consistency though, and didn't feel like roasting in own juices from the sheer thermal insulation power
22:00 asciilifeform had exactly ideal conductivity.
22:00 mircea_popescu well then may i recomend a tardis.
22:00 asciilifeform this is ftr the WORST possible kind of tech, which is why i even mention it here:
22:01 asciilifeform 1) finite mtbf 2) no replacement possible.
22:01 asciilifeform like one's own motherfucking body.
22:01 asciilifeform 'be smart, don't start' (tm) (r)
22:01 mircea_popescu body very replaceable, just unscrew the head.
22:02 shinohai I saw that on trilema, so I know it's possible.
22:02 mircea_popescu it's an old leisure suit larry idea. I SAW THE FACTORY
22:05 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: https://youtu.be/BFZgOK4KIsQ?t=5m << aaaactually this came first!!
22:05 asciilifeform the canonical head-lightbulb in my head.
22:05 mircea_popescu that doesn't really look like it's earlier than the lslilll
22:05 asciilifeform 1978.
22:06 mircea_popescu (incidentally, the characters look like ripoffs of lucky luke antagonists)
22:06 mircea_popescu did they have that in ru ?
22:06 asciilifeform the thing was massively multilayer lampoon of various cultural gibblets
22:07 asciilifeform and i never saw 'luke', but it looks neato.
22:07 mircea_popescu ancient, 60s belgian thing
22:07 mircea_popescu also similarily palimpsest of reference
22:07 asciilifeform yeah i can see it.
22:07 * asciilifeform puts on list.
22:08 mircea_popescu some crossover with tintin, but meh. the great us equivalent would be i guess popeye
22:08 mircea_popescu (the newspaper edition, not the bastardized tv version)
22:11 mircea_popescu incidentally : the 80s 37yo virgin never killed anyone. just wore his disco suit and applied himself.
~ 51 minutes ~
23:02 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> ick no american synthetic turdolade plox. << AHA, you've had your fill of polyurethane foam? How much still adheres to the hands?
~ 21 minutes ~
23:24 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: some
23:31 BingoBoingo Perhaps time to debride again?
23:44 asciilifeform eh
23:48 BingoBoingo Used to it? Attached?
23:49 asciilifeform nah, but i work with hands enough that it comes off.
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