| 00:01 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://www.bitcoinpulse.com/ |
| 00:01 |
ozbot |
Bitcoin Pulse - Monitoring the pulse of Bitcoin |
| 00:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.25348799 BTC [+] |
| 00:03 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00089862 = 17.7927 BTC [+] {2} |
| 00:04 |
deego |
assbot: nice a.. and nice name! |
| 00:07 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10606 @ 0.0008968 = 9.5115 BTC [-] |
| 00:08 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 4000 @ 0.00045218 = 1.8087 BTC [-] {2} |
| 00:13 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14613 @ 0.00089733 = 13.1127 BTC [+] {2} |
| 00:24 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 700 @ 0.002321 = 1.6247 BTC [-] |
| 00:25 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.24301428 = 1.7011 BTC [-] {4} |
| 00:26 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3204 @ 0.00089966 = 2.8825 BTC [+] |
| 00:38 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00090021 = 2.6106 BTC [+] |
| 00:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.24997799 BTC [+] |
| 00:41 |
benkay |
asciilifeform: i attended a talk on a google product this evening (that strongly resembles javascript but isn't in some not so subtle ways) and when i asked the presenter about managing different versions of libs on one computer was told that such was just never considered as a use case. |
| 00:41 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.24999779 = 1.25 BTC [+] {3} |
| 00:42 |
benkay |
how did we get here? |
| 00:42 |
benkay |
more importantly than loper os is a history of "why compute am broek: a histree" |
| 00:43 |
benkay |
anyways. i don't really understand these tools yet but i suspect something went horribly horribly wrong at some point before i was born. |
| 00:44 |
BingoBoingo |
benkay: Well, in asciilifeform's case a bit after he was born, but still after |
| 00:45 |
benkay |
BingoBoingo: do you know? can you recite the ballad of how computers got wholly fucked? |
| 00:45 |
fiat500 |
benkay: this wouldnt be an issue if "modern" programmers werent so fucking lazy and stopped breaking backward compatibility with every dot release |
| 00:46 |
fiat500 |
then we wouldnt need bullshit like rvm |
| 00:46 |
benkay |
there are lots of stupid people out there who are always going to make shitty code |
| 00:47 |
BingoBoingo |
fiat500: As a counter example backwards compatibility has crippled x86 for most of its histoy. |
| 00:47 |
fiat500 |
you say crippled, i say there are wonderful libs written 10 years ago i can still use today |
| 00:47 |
fiat500 |
not everyone can keep maintaing every piece of code they write |
| 00:48 |
BingoBoingo |
fiat500: I don't mean on that level. I mean in that eal and protected modes are still things in x86 |
| 00:49 |
asciilifeform |
and so are msdos-era oddities like 'unreal mode.' |
| 00:49 |
fiat500 |
how is that holding things back? just leave it |
| 00:50 |
asciilifeform |
it still wurks. used an intel 'xeon' in 'unreal mode' just last year. |
| 00:51 |
Apocalyptic |
hum |
| 00:51 |
Apocalyptic |
why was that mode used for in the first place ? |
| 00:51 |
asciilifeform |
16 bit instrs with flat address space. |
| 00:52 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56638 @ 0.00089937 = 50.9385 BTC [-] {2} |
| 00:53 |
asciilifeform |
segmented address spaces, book-length instruction sets, interrupt controllers with book-length specs, etc. are retarded. |
| 00:53 |
fiat500 |
anyway, theres probably more valid arguments against keeping legacy vm features than there are against maintaining sane APIs |
| 00:53 |
asciilifeform |
sorry, there just isn't another side to it |
| 00:53 |
fiat500 |
motherfucker, dont change the goddamn API, i dont want to rewrite my goddamn code every time you release a new version |
| 00:54 |
fiat500 |
</rant> |
| 00:54 |
fiat500 |
deprecate the old one and stop updating it, sure |
| 00:54 |
mircea_popescu |
fiat500 part of that is making very simple apis |
| 00:55 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 5700 @ 0.001 = 5.7 BTC |
| 00:55 |
fiat500 |
mircea_popescu: some of these so-called 'modern' languages change basic core premises in the language sometimes |
| 00:55 |
fiat500 |
"lel0loloz i'm changing how 'print' behaves" |
| 00:56 |
fiat500 |
&c |
| 00:56 |
gribble |
Error: "c" is not a valid command. |
| 00:56 |
fiat500 |
O_o |
| 00:57 |
asciilifeform |
not everything is built by retarded trendoids: |
| 00:57 |
asciilifeform |
here next to me sits a paperback book, on the instruction set used by the cpu in 'cardano' |
| 00:57 |
asciilifeform |
library sticker reads '1988'. |
| 00:58 |
fiat500 |
btw, ffmpeg is especially bad at this |
| 00:58 |
fiat500 |
those guys can rot in hell :P |
| 00:59 |
Apocalyptic |
asciilifeform, out of curiosity what OS are you running for everyday use ? |
| 00:59 |
benkay |
what is the cpu, asciilifeform? |
| 00:59 |
asciilifeform |
for everyday use, ordinary linux |
| 00:59 |
asciilifeform |
'gentoo' |
| 00:59 |
asciilifeform |
cpu in what |
| 01:00 |
Apocalyptic |
what do you think of arch ? |
| 01:00 |
asciilifeform |
never used it, can't comment. |
| 01:00 |
benkay |
cardano |
| 01:00 |
asciilifeform |
'mips' |
| 01:01 |
fiat500 |
dat mips, lets you choose your endianness |
| 01:01 |
fiat500 |
how insane is that |
| 01:01 |
benkay |
sheeeeeeit. |
| 01:02 |
asciilifeform |
this is actually useful/ |
| 01:02 |
asciilifeform |
. |
| 01:02 |
fiat500 |
i use insane positively here |
| 01:02 |
asciilifeform |
it's a headache if you intend to use an operating system |
| 01:02 |
asciilifeform |
but otherwise great. |
| 01:03 |
asciilifeform |
at any rate you set the flag once in antifuse & forget about it. |
| 01:13 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26054 @ 0.00090019 = 23.4536 BTC [+] |
| 01:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6185 @ 0.00089915 = 5.5612 BTC [-] {2} |
| 01:22 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15615 @ 0.00089771 = 14.0177 BTC [-] |
| |
~ 1 hours 12 minutes ~ |
| 02:34 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12521 @ 0.00089771 = 11.2402 BTC [-] |
| 02:34 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 88 @ 0.002321 = 0.2042 BTC [-] |
| 02:37 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00089849 = 10.692 BTC [+] |
| 02:48 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 12 @ 0.024999 = 0.3 BTC [-] |
| 02:49 |
BingoBoingo |
.bait |
| 02:49 |
ozbot |
http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdw48hNMSC1rlvc92o1_500.jpg |
| 02:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5168 @ 0.00089717 = 4.6366 BTC [-] {2} |
| 03:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 32253 @ 0.00009603 = 3.0973 BTC [+] {5} |
| 03:02 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.0008964 = 4.0786 BTC [-] |
| 03:12 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: If only Carlsen could LISP? https://twitter.com/Kasparov63/status/412715259124674560 |
| 03:19 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28274 @ 0.00089849 = 25.4039 BTC [+] |
| 03:29 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00089867 = 17.0747 BTC [+] {2} |
| |
~ 30 minutes ~ |
| 03:59 |
thestringpuller |
;;estimate |
| 03:59 |
gribble |
Next difficulty estimate | 1130863047.84 based on data since last change | 1259820370.03 based on data for last three days |
| |
~ 15 minutes ~ |
| 04:15 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17102 @ 0.00089848 = 15.3658 BTC [-] {2} |
| 04:16 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3898 @ 0.00090021 = 3.509 BTC [+] {2} |
| 04:28 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00089714 = 9.2405 BTC [-] {2} |
| 04:31 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5873 @ 0.00090036 = 5.2878 BTC [+] {2} |
| 04:34 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29350 @ 0.00090141 = 26.4564 BTC [+] {3} |
| 04:42 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22750 @ 0.00090101 = 20.498 BTC [-] |
| 04:57 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P095T] 5 @ 0.03 = 0.15 BTC [-] |
| 05:00 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00089805 = 3.5922 BTC [-] {2} |
| 05:08 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.043 = 0.301 BTC [-] |
| 05:09 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0425 = 0.1275 BTC [-] |
| |
~ 53 minutes ~ |
| 06:03 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9339 @ 0.00089748 = 8.3816 BTC [-] {2} |
| |
~ 17 minutes ~ |
| 06:20 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69691 @ 0.00089487 = 62.3644 BTC [-] {6} |
| 06:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20309 @ 0.00089226 = 18.1209 BTC [-] {2} |
| 06:29 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.0468 = 0.9828 BTC [+] |
| 06:42 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 681 @ 0.00089772 = 0.6113 BTC [+] |
| |
~ 15 minutes ~ |
| 06:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.25250274 BTC [+] |
| |
~ 31 minutes ~ |
| 07:29 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00090129 = 7.0301 BTC [+] |
| 07:29 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.25267275 = 1.516 BTC [+] {5} |
| 07:30 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.25424994 = 2.034 BTC [+] {4} |
| 07:31 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.255 BTC [+] |
| 07:34 |
jurov |
finally got at least 6% from bitfunder |
| 07:35 |
jurov |
but still was not said what happened to rest |
| 07:39 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.00090197 = 5.6373 BTC [+] |
| 07:44 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15194 @ 0.00090271 = 13.7158 BTC [+] |
| 07:48 |
nubbins` |
hi |
| 07:53 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16493 @ 0.00090271 = 14.8884 BTC [+] |
| 08:00 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19850 @ 0.00090239 = 17.9124 BTC [-] {2} |
| 08:03 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 47 @ 0.04201274 = 1.9746 BTC [-] {7} |
| |
~ 29 minutes ~ |
| 08:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19538 @ 0.00090248 = 17.6327 BTC [+] |
| 08:38 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17651 @ 0.00090066 = 15.8975 BTC [-] {4} |
| 08:52 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6018 @ 0.00089912 = 5.4109 BTC [-] |
| 08:59 |
taub_ |
soo |
| 08:59 |
taub_ |
it's ded right |
| 09:01 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24150 @ 0.00089903 = 21.7116 BTC [-] {2} |
| 09:03 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.25633799 = 1.2817 BTC [+] {5} |
| 09:06 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.00245313 = 1.2266 BTC [+] {8} |
| 09:11 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2574 BTC [+] |
| 09:22 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00089898 = 9.3943 BTC [-] |
| 09:27 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 323 @ 0.00232103 = 0.7497 BTC [-] {5} |
| 09:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8235 @ 0.00089898 = 7.4031 BTC [-] |
| 09:42 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11765 @ 0.00089921 = 10.5792 BTC [+] |
| 09:49 |
nubbins` |
;;ticker |
| 09:49 |
gribble |
MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 730.005, Best ask: 731.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.99500, Last trade: 730.005, 24 hour volume: 53584.31024000, 24 hour low: 678.8904, 24 hour high: 849.0, 24 hour vwap: 746.9996 |
| 09:52 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26019 @ 0.00090106 = 23.4447 BTC [+] {4} |
| 10:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23300 @ 0.00090317 = 21.0439 BTC [+] |
| 10:07 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.0009021 = 4.0595 BTC [-] |
| 10:13 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3248 @ 0.00090317 = 2.9335 BTC [+] |
| 10:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00090317 = 6.3222 BTC [+] |
| 10:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00090317 = 4.9223 BTC [+] |
| 10:29 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1880 @ 0.0009021 = 1.6959 BTC [-] |
| 10:33 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 10 @ 0.08948498 = 0.8948 BTC [+] {6} |
| 10:38 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 10000 @ 0.001 = 10 BTC |
| 10:39 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 37 @ 0.02397323 = 0.887 BTC [-] {4} |
| 10:48 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 2454 @ 0.00248687 = 6.1028 BTC [+] {13} |
| 10:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 37 @ 0.0028539 = 0.1056 BTC [-] {3} |
| 11:00 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6152 @ 0.00090322 = 5.5566 BTC [+] {2} |
| 11:10 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://i.imgur.com/XRS4QRU.png |
| 11:14 |
mike_c |
bitcoins for beer. that $10k btc bet will be a lock. |
| 11:15 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3346 @ 0.00090362 = 3.0235 BTC [+] {2} |
| 11:16 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19318 @ 0.00090243 = 17.4331 BTC [-] {2} |
| 11:18 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpni-DtPWJA |
| 11:18 |
ozbot |
Almost Human - Bitcoin - YouTube |
| 11:18 |
ThickAsThieves |
bitcoin in the future! |
| 11:19 |
Duffer1 |
LOL! |
| 11:20 |
Duffer1 |
zoom enhance! now zoom again on that reflection and enhance |
| 11:20 |
Duffer1 |
must be a bitcoin |
| 11:24 |
lolstate |
!seen ThickAsThieves |
| 11:24 |
lolstate |
;seen ThickAsThieves |
| 11:25 |
lolstate |
;;seen ThickAsThieves |
| 11:25 |
gribble |
ThickAsThieves was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 minutes and 7 seconds ago: <ThickAsThieves> bitcoin in the future! |
| 11:25 |
lolstate |
you don't say |
| 11:30 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.02449833 = 0.147 BTC [+] {3} |
| 11:42 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.0245 = 0.147 BTC [+] |
| 11:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50720 @ 0.00090403 = 45.8524 BTC [+] {2} |
| 11:48 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14580 @ 0.00090415 = 13.1825 BTC [+] {2} |
| 11:50 |
jurov |
http://explo.yt/post/2013/12/16/All-about-X.EUR-future-on-MPEx |
| 11:50 |
ozbot |
All about X.EUR future on MPEx - serialized delusions |
| 11:53 |
davout |
jurov: tweet dat shit |
| 11:53 |
jurov |
it's correct? |
| 11:54 |
davout |
yes |
| 11:55 |
jurov |
done |
| 11:55 |
mike_c |
<troll>i was just thinking that there aren't enough bloggers in the world.</troll> |
| 11:56 |
mike_c |
good post :) i spent way too long trying to parse the x.eur contract yesterday |
| 11:57 |
the20year2 |
RentalStarter service payment has been made |
| 11:58 |
davout |
jurov get yourself a proper twitter icon |
| 11:58 |
jurov |
mhm |
| 11:58 |
ThickAsThieves |
more CSS! |
| 11:59 |
davout |
such avatar |
| 12:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 20 @ 0.02439999 = 0.488 BTC [-] |
| 12:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 85 @ 0.0028 = 0.238 BTC [+] |
| 12:04 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3595 @ 0.00090418 = 3.2505 BTC [+] |
| 12:08 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00090198 = 6.4943 BTC [-] {2} |
| 12:18 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11726 @ 0.00089981 = 10.5512 BTC [-] {2} |
| 12:19 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7374 @ 0.00089818 = 6.6232 BTC [-] |
| 12:23 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0026703 = 0.267 BTC [-] {5} |
| 12:23 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2576 BTC [+] |
| 12:28 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.0009045 = 15.5574 BTC [+] {2} |
| 12:30 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 99 @ 0.00267 = 0.2643 BTC [-] {2} |
| 12:30 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.261 BTC [+] |
| 12:34 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.04499 = 0.18 BTC [+] |
| 12:38 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21150 @ 0.00090503 = 19.1414 BTC [+] {3} |
| 12:45 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00090373 = 2.8919 BTC [-] |
| 12:49 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 50000 @ 0.00011499 = 5.7495 BTC [+] {13} |
| 13:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 9255 @ 0.00011996 = 1.1102 BTC [+] {5} |
| 13:04 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21955 @ 0.00090373 = 19.8414 BTC [-] {2} |
| 13:11 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 855 @ 0.00012388 = 0.1059 BTC [+] {4} |
| |
~ 25 minutes ~ |
| 13:36 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 45 @ 0.02291137 = 1.031 BTC [-] {5} |
| 13:37 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 125 @ 0.0226168 = 2.8271 BTC [-] {3} |
| 13:44 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 101 @ 0.0222 = 2.2422 BTC [-] {2} |
| 13:56 |
mircea_popescu |
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/4/1/9/1/4/9/webimg/700111825_o.jpg |
| 13:56 |
mircea_popescu |
make underwear for the purpose of showing the snatch, |
| 13:56 |
mircea_popescu |
airbrush the snatch out of the publicity photos |
| 13:56 |
mircea_popescu |
this has got to be purit-us. |
| 13:58 |
KRS- |
I think I'm seeing higher lows forming on the graphs..market price is going to climb again after this last round of selling. |
| 13:59 |
mircea_popescu |
;;ticker |
| 13:59 |
gribble |
MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 746.10001, Best ask: 746.9, Bid-ask spread: 0.79999, Last trade: 747.995, 24 hour volume: 46510.92498132, 24 hour low: 678.8904, 24 hour high: 824.88888, 24 hour vwap: 737.03733 |
| 13:59 |
KRS- |
why blur the best part..damn. |
| 13:59 |
KRS- |
Looks delicious otherwise. |
| 14:00 |
Namworld |
Market price is always going to climb again after a round of selling or fall again after a round of buying. Be it in 1 minute, 1 day, 1 year or 200 years |
| 14:00 |
mircea_popescu |
now that's a point. |
| 14:00 |
KRS- |
ya..i was hoping it wasn't going to be a lower low and i am happy about that. |
| 14:02 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.00090352 = 2.9364 BTC [-] |
| 14:06 |
dexX7 |
KRS-: my advise is to use the lows to buy more und relax, enjoy the journey and keep in mind that your goal right now should be to get as many coins as possible, not usd |
| 14:09 |
KRS- |
chatter around the net is 'final warning' http://i.imgur.com/BHtpTfx.png |
| 14:10 |
dexX7 |
you'll the this damn picture again and again and again |
| 14:10 |
TomServo |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw |
| 14:10 |
ozbot |
Europe - The Final Countdown - YouTube |
| 14:11 |
mircea_popescu |
im still betting the us goes first. |
| 14:12 |
KRS- |
you are expecting it then |
| 14:13 |
dexX7 |
like the us starts "banning" btc? |
| 14:13 |
mircea_popescu |
dexX7 no, like the us forms soup kitchen queues first. |
| 14:14 |
dexX7 |
48 million americans already receive food stamps |
| 14:14 |
dexX7 |
that's more than half germany :S |
| 14:14 |
mircea_popescu |
queues tho. queues means there's not enough to go around. |
| 14:15 |
mircea_popescu |
well technically, it means that people are hungry enough to queue and got nothing better to do with their time than queue. |
| 14:15 |
mircea_popescu |
powerlessness and hopelessness. |
| 14:16 |
benkay |
;;ticker |
| 14:16 |
gribble |
MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 735.7145, Best ask: 736.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.28550, Last trade: 735.7145, 24 hour volume: 45932.13596275, 24 hour low: 678.8904, 24 hour high: 824.88888, 24 hour vwap: 736.32899 |
| 14:16 |
KRS- |
and since this is turning out to be a bubble everyone's net worth will only be a fraction of what it was if you all didn't sell off your bitcoin |
| 14:16 |
mike_c |
that image is photoshopped. the price curve wasn't that smooth. |
| 14:17 |
mircea_popescu |
the image is also racist. |
| 14:17 |
mike_c |
yeah, white & black? bullshit. |
| 14:17 |
dexX7 |
lol |
| 14:17 |
davout |
clear |
| 14:17 |
mircea_popescu |
esp because the black is used to represent the unknown. is the implicatiobn blacks can't write or don't have money ? |
| 14:17 |
mircea_popescu |
in case you're wondering, i've just written an article about painful underwear, and as a result read up some feminist blogs. that shit's such a self-parody... |
| 14:18 |
mircea_popescu |
just add water an' stir. froth guaranteed |
| 14:20 |
mike_c |
menthol? that is painful just to read. |
| 14:21 |
nubbins` |
i smoked menthols for years |
| 14:21 |
nubbins` |
reading that made me crave one |
| 14:22 |
kakobrekla |
menthol fags? arent those for kids? |
| 14:23 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31800 @ 0.00089949 = 28.6038 BTC [-] {2} |
| 14:30 |
mircea_popescu |
mike_c there's this temple balm made by teh chinese |
| 14:30 |
mircea_popescu |
the household name is "cunt fortifier". |
| 14:30 |
mike_c |
it probably sounds even better in chinese |
| 14:30 |
mircea_popescu |
http://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j00PeHQLFpnHGrS/Essential-Balm-Temple-of-Heaven.jpg |
| 14:31 |
mircea_popescu |
this thing |
| 14:31 |
mircea_popescu |
basically parafin oil imbibated with camphor and methol to the point it's rusty brown |
| 14:31 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00090368 = 15.6337 BTC [+] {2} |
| 14:31 |
mike_c |
and people buy this.. |
| 14:31 |
mircea_popescu |
it's great. |
| 14:40 |
nubbins` |
kakobrekla: not sure. they taste like nothing after a while anyway |
| 14:40 |
dub |
the brown is from ground cockroach and tigerpenis |
| 14:42 |
mircea_popescu |
lol doubt it, for what it costs. |
| 14:42 |
BingoBoingo |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67547.msg4011380#msg4011380 |
| 14:42 |
ozbot |
Starting a new FPGA mining farm/contract Cognitive Resurrected on[Havelock] |
| 14:49 |
dub |
continuing to place trust in that shitbag after the shill bidding revelation was pretty smart in the first place butt |
| 14:50 |
mircea_popescu |
herp. |
| 14:50 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla is vindicated. |
| 14:51 |
mircea_popescu |
bless his evil soul or w/e the expression was |
| 14:52 |
topace |
[14:43:43] <topace> anyone here running a bot on havelock |
| 14:52 |
topace |
[14:43:47] <topace> new rate limiting is now in effect |
| 14:52 |
topace |
[14:43:58] <topace> there was a few people not playing nice |
| 14:52 |
topace |
[14:43:59] <topace> so i had no choice |
| 14:52 |
topace |
[14:44:25] <topace> one bot was doing 3000 requests per 600 seconds (5 per second!) |
| 14:52 |
topace |
[14:44:33] <topace> the limit is now 600 per 600 seconds |
| 14:52 |
topace |
[14:44:48] <topace> aka 1 per second, over the past 10 minutes |
| 14:52 |
topace |
[14:45:02] <topace> * subject to chnage of course |
| 14:53 |
topace |
all responses also now contain an 'apirate' parameter, which, the entire time i was code, read as "api rate", but just as i finished, i looked back and went "yarrrrrrrrr a pirate!" |
| 14:54 |
kakobrekla |
i belive it was slanderous soul, as dully noted in the feedback shrani.si/f/z/L3/oFmb4zW/trust.png |
| 14:54 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 560 @ 0.001 = 0.56 BTC |
| 14:55 |
mircea_popescu |
a that yeah. |
| 14:55 |
kakobrekla |
dunno how he risked 500 btc with me though |
| 14:55 |
kakobrekla |
must be high or something |
| 14:56 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.04499999 = 0.27 BTC [+] {2} |
| 15:02 |
ThickAsThieves |
his comment on mine says "Left Illegitimate feedback. Please remove and I will do the same." |
| 15:02 |
ThickAsThieves |
so i left him a second negrating |
| 15:03 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 15:03 |
mircea_popescu |
you can do multiple ? |
| 15:03 |
ThickAsThieves |
yeah |
| 15:03 |
kakobrekla |
meh, sheep will be sheep |
| 15:05 |
dub |
tbh if 16 and not high sometimes you're doing it wrong |
| 15:15 |
BingoBoingo |
If only scammer tags were still a thing |
| 15:15 |
BingoBoingo |
http://bitbet.us/bet/314/bitcointalk-org-treasurer-to-be-scammer-tagged/ |
| 15:15 |
ozbot |
BitBet - Bitcointalk.org treasurer to be scammer tagged |
| 15:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.00090061 = 18.8227 BTC [-] {2} |
| 15:31 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00090424 = 10.4892 BTC [+] |
| 15:33 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 245 @ 0.00297655 = 0.7293 BTC [+] {8} |
| 15:37 |
mircea_popescu |
sucks huh |
| 15:40 |
BingoBoingo |
Eh, who know. Funny how Garr seems to have the allegiance of both Thermos and Goat though |
| 15:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 30000 @ 0.001 = 30 BTC |
| 15:40 |
mircea_popescu |
there's not many scams goat hasn't shilled, starting with pirate. |
| 15:40 |
mircea_popescu |
there's however no legitimate business he ever pushed. |
| 15:41 |
mircea_popescu |
pretty decent predictor. |
| 15:41 |
jcpham |
rofl fact |
| 15:41 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 10000 @ 0.001 = 10 BTC |
| 15:42 |
mircea_popescu |
http://bitbet.us/bet/621/any-altcoin-will-surpass-litecoin-in-market-capitalization/#c2105 lol |
| 15:42 |
ozbot |
BitBet - Any altcoin will surpass Litecoin in market capitalization |
| 15:43 |
jborkl |
I was looking through the forum donators list today |
| 15:44 |
jborkl |
also a good predictor |
| 15:45 |
jborkl |
I looked to see what happened to our good buddy Ripple, it is now a donate your spare computing power to help the planet |
| 15:46 |
mircea_popescu |
it is yeah. |
| 15:46 |
davout |
hah it's for real |
| 15:46 |
mircea_popescu |
for a while there mid 2012 the scammer mo was pretty much theswede's : make acct, donate, post 2k posts and buy some old accts. |
| 15:49 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 65381 @ 0.001 = 65.381 BTC |
| 15:52 |
BingoBoingo |
;;asks 1000 |
| 15:52 |
gribble |
There are currently 12463.257 bitcoins offered at or under 1000.0 USD, worth 10980943.0123 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0790 seconds |
| 15:53 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 201 @ 0.003 = 0.603 BTC [+] {2} |
| 15:53 |
BingoBoingo |
;;asks 2500 |
| 15:53 |
gribble |
There are currently 35298.499 bitcoins offered at or under 2500.0 USD, worth 40994299.675 USD in total. | Data vintage: 71.9605 seconds |
| 15:56 |
BingoBoingo |
;;asks 10000 |
| 15:56 |
gribble |
There are currently 36323.35 bitcoins offered at or under 10000.0 USD, worth 46115259.7283 USD in total. | Data vintage: 239.6925 seconds |
| 15:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 38 @ 0.003 = 0.114 BTC [+] |
| 15:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.262 BTC [+] |
| 15:59 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.0009048 = 11.9434 BTC [+] {2} |
| 16:07 |
Namworld |
;;bids 1 |
| 16:07 |
gribble |
There are currently 235083.49 bitcoins demanded at or over 1.0 USD, worth 30049576.4399 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0680 seconds |
| |
~ 35 minutes ~ |
| 16:42 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 10 @ 0.09951099 = 0.9951 BTC [+] {4} |
| 16:53 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.0466 = 0.2796 BTC [+] |
| 16:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14350 @ 0.00090263 = 12.9527 BTC [-] |
| 17:04 |
pankkake |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375010.0 Bernankoin: the Coin to save our economy |
| 17:04 |
ozbot |
[ANN] Bernankoin: the Coin to save our economy - IMPOSSIBLE TO PREMINE |
| 17:08 |
benkay |
nice |
| 17:11 |
pankkake |
I know very little about maths in C++ so I failed to make a smoother QE :( |
| 17:11 |
jurov |
lol that essential balm.. our family uses vietnamese one, in the same case |
| 17:12 |
jurov |
i even found original case from the 80s with prospect |
| 17:12 |
jurov |
and it literally said |
| 17:12 |
jurov |
"in case of epidemy, apply to nostrils" |
| 17:14 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 17:15 |
mircea_popescu |
mine said "in case of uppity woman, apply to cunt lips". |
| 17:15 |
mircea_popescu |
perhaps a misprint. |
| 17:16 |
jurov |
Contraindication: Vagostabyl |
| 17:16 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00090296 = 5.0566 BTC [+] |
| 17:17 |
mircea_popescu |
lol] |
| 17:20 |
dub |
pankkake: ohhh I understand nothing of document |
| 17:20 |
dub |
:( |
| 17:20 |
dub |
bitcoin meme #4080 |
| 17:20 |
pankkake |
half don't geet the joke |
| 17:20 |
pankkake |
not sure how I could make it obviouser |
| 17:21 |
Vexual |
pankakke: how to print with pixma 4700?!?!?! I can't get drivers working, please help! |
| 17:22 |
KRS- |
what happened to /dtng/ |
| 17:23 |
pankkake |
people really are mining this thing! |
| 17:23 |
Vexual |
return on ink? |
| 17:24 |
dub |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375076.0 |
| 17:24 |
davout |
pankkake: this is impressive |
| 17:24 |
ozbot |
ApeCoin - Day 2, needs pools. |
| 17:24 |
dub |
Has 3 posts and his own altcoin, legitness |
| 17:24 |
pankkake |
not really, you haven't see me fail to understand how numbers work in C++ :/ |
| 17:24 |
dub |
need an exchange guise |
| 17:24 |
davout |
you know how to count up to two ? |
| 17:24 |
davout |
that's already too much |
| 17:24 |
pankkake |
it has a subreddit! |
| 17:25 |
davout |
how legit |
| 17:25 |
benkay |
much coin |
| 17:25 |
pankkake |
it has binaries and css |
| 17:26 |
davout |
http://i.imgur.com/XRS4QRU.png |
| 17:26 |
davout |
"hello boyz, appreciate the pitch, gtfo" |
| 17:26 |
davout |
blow stamps, not for beer yet |
| 17:26 |
pankkake |
heineken doesn't sell directly to customers right? |
| 17:27 |
pankkake |
though the mention of bitcoin could be just for the hype |
| 17:27 |
davout |
like george says: "what else" |
| 17:40 |
benkay |
;;ticker --market btcavg |
| 17:40 |
gribble |
BitcoinAverage BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 677.4, Best ask: 679.85, Bid-ask spread: 2.45000, Last trade: 679.26, 24 hour volume: 142858.79, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: 693.39 |
| 17:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 50000 @ 0.001 = 50 BTC |
| 17:53 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00090141 = 6.9859 BTC [-] {2} |
| 17:59 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59100 @ 0.00089972 = 53.1735 BTC [-] {5} |
| |
~ 22 minutes ~ |
| 18:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18350 @ 0.00090332 = 16.5759 BTC [+] {2} |
| 18:24 |
thestringpuller |
;;seen jurov |
| 18:24 |
gribble |
jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 1 minute, and 59 seconds ago: * jurov pays pankkake to troll vexual |
| 18:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00090086 = 11.9814 BTC [-] |
| 18:26 |
davout |
X.EUR Y U NO TRADE? |
| 18:27 |
pizzaman1337 |
just to confirm, you can't "create" X.EUR contracts and sell them, right? |
| 18:28 |
dub |
that heiny thing could be big |
| 18:28 |
dub |
they could basically force btc pos acceptance at 50% of the worlds bars |
| 18:28 |
davout |
pizzaman1337: no |
| 18:28 |
mircea_popescu |
pizzaman1337 you gotta talk to davout, deliver euros to him |
| 18:29 |
davout |
or hot teens, depending on the offered rate |
| 18:29 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 18:29 |
mircea_popescu |
weren't you married ? |
| 18:30 |
davout |
if you have EUR on a bitcoin-central.net you can exchange them for X.EUR on MPEx 1/1 for the time being |
| 18:30 |
davout |
not yet |
| 18:30 |
davout |
but anyway, marriage is when the fun begins |
| 18:30 |
davout |
what's the point of being wealthy if it's not to own a garรงonniรจre |
| 18:30 |
mircea_popescu |
so then you can make your own hot teens |
| 18:30 |
pizzaman1337 |
will there be a UI for that at some point? |
| 18:30 |
davout |
pizzaman1337: for? |
| 18:31 |
davout |
BC EUR 2 X.EUR ? |
| 18:31 |
pizzaman1337 |
both making your own hot teens, and for what you just mentioned |
| 18:31 |
davout |
mircea_popescu: i already have one and she's a lot of work |
| 18:31 |
mircea_popescu |
pizzaman1337 i suppose the idea is for this to remain mostly a large player thing, so no, probably no ui. |
| 18:31 |
pizzaman1337 |
because, unless I'm understanding this incorrectly, when you buy X.EUR you're basically going long EUR |
| 18:32 |
mircea_popescu |
it's not for turning 10 eur into10 x.eur |
| 18:32 |
mircea_popescu |
then again maybe that's just me being a stick in the mud blocking progress |
| 18:33 |
pizzaman1337 |
I mean, unless the options bot has tighter spreads... this could be a good option for going long BTC |
| 18:33 |
davout |
if you want to go long BTC i suppose the easiest is to buy BTC on bitcoin-central.net directly |
| 18:34 |
pizzaman1337 |
yeah; I guess you're not getting any extra leverage by buying here |
| 18:34 |
davout |
the way i see it this contract has a couple main benefits |
| 18:34 |
thestringpuller |
asdasdas sasfasd as dasd asf dgdsfg23 |
| 18:35 |
davout |
it brings BC moar volume, and mixes liquidity with mpex |
| 18:35 |
davout |
and it enables any party to actually trade the EUR without having an account at a regulated exchange |
| 18:36 |
davout |
didn't really think about leverage either |
| 18:36 |
davout |
but without really thinking about it at all i'd assume you'd be better served with options if what you want is leverage |
| 18:37 |
pizzaman1337 |
in theory, options are great |
| 18:37 |
pizzaman1337 |
but it requires good market making too |
| 18:37 |
benkay |
options on x.eur ;) |
| 18:37 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 18:37 |
mircea_popescu |
i'd allow an option on the future just for the hell of it if someone signed some serious mm ing commitment |
| 18:37 |
davout |
hah i'm educating myself on derivatives |
| 18:38 |
davout |
i opened the last pages of the book i'm reading and fell in shock discovering about options on options |
| 18:38 |
davout |
i quickly went back to the some-farmer-sells-wheat-for-june |
| 18:38 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 18:38 |
davout |
examples |
| 18:39 |
pizzaman1337 |
classic |
| 18:39 |
mircea_popescu |
finance is an infinitely complex topic. |
| 18:39 |
benkay |
yo dawg i herd u liek risk |
| 18:39 |
pankkake |
yo dawg, i heard you really like options |
| 18:39 |
davout |
LOL |
| 18:39 |
benkay |
so i wrote some options on options so you can leverage while you leverage |
| 18:45 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.0009013 = 10.2748 BTC [+] |
| 18:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17750 @ 0.00090396 = 16.0453 BTC [+] {3} |
| 18:58 |
pizzaman1337 |
so mpex-mktdepth.php doesn't return the order books sorted by price? that's a bummer... |
| 18:59 |
benkay |
welcome to the mpex apis |
| 18:59 |
benkay |
data is there |
| 18:59 |
benkay |
go earn thy keep, programmer. |
| 19:04 |
pizzaman1337 |
I mean, it's one line in python, but still... |
| 19:04 |
benkay |
see? |
| 19:07 |
mircea_popescu |
still waht lol |
| 19:08 |
pizzaman1337 |
I'm still lazy |
| 19:08 |
mircea_popescu |
it's just a phase :D |
| 19:12 |
pizzaman1337 |
so someday you'll sort them for us? ;) |
| 19:13 |
mircea_popescu |
no no, your laziness is a phase |
| 19:13 |
pankkake |
the day I discovered I could get away with being lazy, I never stopped |
| 19:13 |
jurov |
lol pizzaman1337 |
| 19:13 |
jurov |
pankkake: exactly |
| 19:21 |
dub |
226p 30000w |
| 19:22 |
dub |
kill me |
| 19:23 |
truffles |
? |
| 19:25 |
dub |
gonna have to scan this thing for random troll outbursts and links from mp too |
| 19:25 |
dub |
window focus is hard |
| 19:32 |
jurov |
imagine you're the historian that got the task of analyzing the logs |
| 19:33 |
jurov |
then you'll fell better that you have only to read them |
| 19:34 |
truffles |
jcpham ure guilty ldo |
| 19:34 |
truffles |
chat historian |
| 19:34 |
truffles |
awesome |
| 19:34 |
jcpham |
that's offensive and ignorant to say |
| 19:35 |
truffles |
lol ok |
| 19:35 |
jcpham |
but w/e |
| 19:35 |
pizzaman1337 |
so basically, you trade X.EUR if you want to sell BTC, but stay denominated in BTC, not on a traditional exchange, and with 40 EUR spread. Seems mostly like a promotion for B-C to me? |
| 19:38 |
mircea_popescu |
i knew i'm not getting paid enough to dfo this. |
| 19:40 |
BingoBoingo |
pizzaman1337: Or sell BTC to be delivered by Jurov, in a suitcase |
| 19:40 |
jurov |
pizzaman1337: i'd wait for davout and ask him |
| 19:41 |
jurov |
i just gave him http://exterface.com/unicorn/ so he's busy atm |
| 19:43 |
pizzaman1337 |
mircea_popescu: it wasn't clear if you were getting paid at all |
| 19:45 |
nubbins` |
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/pamela-anderson-simpsons-sam-simon-offer-cash-to-sealers-1.2467207 |
| 19:45 |
ozbot |
Pamela Anderson, Simpsons' Sam Simon offer cash to sealers - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News |
| 19:47 |
truffles |
omg at that link jurov |
| 19:52 |
dub |
save the moosecock eh |
| 19:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00090573 = 9.963 BTC [+] |
| 19:56 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.0465 = 0.93 BTC [-] |
| 19:57 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.0466 = 0.5126 BTC [+] |
| |
~ 15 minutes ~ |
| 20:13 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00090336 = 2.5294 BTC [-] |
| |
~ 45 minutes ~ |
| 20:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 42 @ 0.06809629 = 2.86 BTC [-] {13} |
| 20:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 13 @ 0.06009386 = 0.7812 BTC [-] {3} |
| 21:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.046689 = 0.607 BTC [+] |
| 21:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02306198 = 0.2306 BTC [+] {5} |
| 21:05 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 42 @ 0.00280001 = 0.1176 BTC [+] {2} |
| |
~ 16 minutes ~ |
| 21:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13250 @ 0.00090336 = 11.9695 BTC [-] {3} |
| 21:31 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17600 @ 0.00090108 = 15.859 BTC [-] {3} |
| 21:36 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 4457 @ 0.00295305 = 13.1617 BTC [-] {8} |
| 21:37 |
Bugpowder |
Anyone know how Second Market's assets under management jumped $20MM today? |
| 21:38 |
Bugpowder |
no coins coming into their receiving address |
| 21:47 |
ThickAsThieves |
have you asked them? |
| 21:53 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8970 @ 0.00090106 = 8.0825 BTC [-] |
| 22:00 |
Bugpowder |
nope |
| 22:00 |
Bugpowder |
http://i.imgur.com/IxDHLMy.png |
| 22:09 |
Bugpowder |
https://www.secondmarket.com/company/bitcoin-investment-trust |
| 22:09 |
ozbot |
Bitcoin Investment Trust - SecondMarket |
| 22:09 |
Bugpowder |
nevermind |
| 22:10 |
amidvidy |
so what features would you want in a p2p colored coin exchange? |
| 22:11 |
BingoBoingo |
amidvidy: Non-existence would be a great property to have |
| 22:12 |
ThickAsThieves |
the ability to scam ofc |
| 22:12 |
BingoBoingo |
Being built on the Dogecoin blockchain might be an acceptable alternative though |
| 22:15 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 771 @ 0.0029 = 2.2359 BTC [+] {2} |
| 22:15 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2639 = 0.5278 BTC [+] |
| 22:16 |
mircea_popescu |
Bugpowder -25% last week ? |
| 22:16 |
mircea_popescu |
amidvidy http://trilema.com/2013/why-i-nixed-p2p-colored-coins-and-all-that-jazz/ << can always start there |
| 22:17 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.26499999 = 0.53 BTC [+] {2} |
| 22:17 |
mircea_popescu |
"I am Barrister Prince Paul Adeola a solicitor at law." << |
| 22:18 |
mircea_popescu |
eigenvalue hello. |
| 22:19 |
amidvidy |
mircea_popescu: interesting, but I disagree. |
| 22:20 |
mircea_popescu |
how old are you ? |
| 22:20 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13209 @ 0.00090591 = 11.9662 BTC [+] |
| 22:20 |
amidvidy |
21 |
| 22:20 |
amidvidy |
not really sure why that matters though. |
| 22:21 |
mircea_popescu |
at that age you don't get to disagree. |
| 22:21 |
Vexual |
:) |
| 22:21 |
mircea_popescu |
it matters like this : twenty somethings don't have enough experience wiping their own bottom to opine on matters financial. |
| 22:21 |
asciilifeform |
disagree with: that barrister prince paul adeola is a solicitor at law? |
| 22:21 |
Vexual |
you might have got some coloured words if you were older |
| 22:21 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform he was so close might have gone for areola. no courage in the spam business these days |
| 22:24 |
amidvidy |
wow, that is pretty persuasive. Regardless, I've been designing a Kademlia based exchange, with support for market and limit orders. |
| 22:25 |
Vexual |
make a time machine and tell your womb to avoid mobile phones |
| 22:27 |
truffles |
silly rabbit men dont have wombs |
| 22:27 |
mircea_popescu |
so have a bunch of other kids. it never goes anywhere, for the stated reasons. |
| 22:27 |
mircea_popescu |
but i guess most need to learn from their own experience. |
| 22:29 |
amidvidy |
agreed. Even if nobody ever uses it, it's an interesting technical exercise |
| 22:30 |
amidvidy |
but i think there is a legitimate demand due to the takedown of sites like bitfunder, btctco, glbse, etc. |
| 22:30 |
BingoBoingo |
amidvidy: In most of those cases it wasn't so much a takedown as they surrended... |
| 22:31 |
mircea_popescu |
you misjudge both what happened there and what that leads to. |
| 22:32 |
amidvidy |
care to elaborate? |
| 22:32 |
mircea_popescu |
the takedown of the playsites is related to people making your mistakes (ie, brash notions of youth). it's unrelated to anything that can be resolved technologically. |
| 22:32 |
mircea_popescu |
havelock is in the process of fuicking itself in the ass exactly the same way right now./ |
| 22:33 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 150 @ 0.001 = 0.15 BTC |
| 22:33 |
Vexual |
he has no beard to stoke |
| 22:34 |
BingoBoingo |
Remember when Havelock was just that weird little site than only wanted to trade a SatoshiDice Passthrough. |
| 22:35 |
amidvidy |
I guess I believe that the problem *can* be solved technologically. Just as bitcoin was a better technological solution than say, the Liberty Dollar |
| 22:36 |
amidvidy |
or egold, etc. |
| 22:36 |
mircea_popescu |
you form beliefs about how a problem can be solved without having bothered to define it ;/ |
| 22:37 |
BingoBoingo |
amidvidy: Bitcoin largely solves the problem of how to have a distributed ledger of accounts, this is very different from breaking up and distributing a whole exchange |
| 22:37 |
Bugpowder |
it was a typo it seams |
| 22:38 |
amidvidy |
BingoBoingo: it was an analogy. |
| 22:38 |
amidvidy |
The nice thing about a distributed exchange is that an actor can still behave correctly in the presence of partial information, unlike bitcoin |
| 22:40 |
amidvidy |
which is why a successful colored coin trading network will be multitier. Tier 1 will contain high-volume "supernodes", similar to MPex, that provide low latency at the cost of some anonymity |
| 22:40 |
mircea_popescu |
here's an analogy for you : suppose you're in love, with this luscious young thing. can you see why the device which speeds up her arrival to your current position is great, whereas the device which speeds up your ejaculation once she's reached you is not great ? |
| 22:41 |
amidvidy |
Tier 2 will be completely p2p, and trades will be high latency |
| 22:41 |
Vexual |
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mefyda5U931r3mxnxo1_1280.jpg time machine |
| 22:44 |
asciilifeform |
amidvidy, you would probably like my old crackpot commentary on btc systems: |
| 22:44 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.loper-os.org/?p=939 |
| 22:44 |
ozbot |
Loper OS ยป Bitcoin, or How to Hammer in Nails with a Microscope. |
| 22:45 |
mircea_popescu |
back when stan thought btc kinda sucks. |
| 22:45 |
asciilifeform |
well, to be fair, the thing i declared to suck - the lamers - continue to suck mightily. |
| 22:45 |
mircea_popescu |
aye. |
| 22:46 |
mircea_popescu |
they could suck a planet throught a gardenhose. |
| 22:47 |
asciilifeform |
and i stand by my hypothesis, that a p2p whatever might be interesting and useful, if not a replacement for any currently-existing widget as such |
| 22:47 |
mircea_popescu |
supernodes eh. amidvidy are you also new to bitcoin enough to not have been exposed to the adventures of uppity tortilla ? |
| 22:47 |
asciilifeform |
but it would have to be written by something other than muppets. |
| 22:48 |
mircea_popescu |
you're not gonna get the decentralised market that's trustless any more than you're going to get the two dimensional dildo that cures aging |
| 22:48 |
Vexual |
dig? |
| 22:49 |
mircea_popescu |
currencies naturally tend to decentralise, which is why things like forgers. markets always and since forever centralise. tis what they do and not distinct from their actual utility. |
| 22:50 |
truffles |
who wouldve thought that 1 up, dildo's and aging |
| 22:51 |
amidvidy |
asciilifeform: I think I agree with you at a high level, that may be useless to try to reconstruct btc-based analogs of traditional institutions. That said, I think a p2p exchange could be useful |
| 22:52 |
amidvidy |
the NYSE isn't going anywhere anytime soon |
| 22:53 |
Vexual |
define soon |
| 22:53 |
amidvidy |
10 years |
| 22:57 |
Vexual |
u give mpex 10 years too? |
| 22:58 |
amidvidy |
probably not. |
| 22:58 |
mircea_popescu |
pity bitbet doesn't take 10 years. |
| 22:59 |
mircea_popescu |
.d |
| 22:59 |
ozbot |
908350862.43702 | Next Diff in 638 blocks | Estimated Change: 26.4775% in 3d 5h 54m 27s |
| 23:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3000 @ 0.00012388 = 0.3716 BTC [+] |
| 23:03 |
truffles |
asciilifeform if thats ur blog u write well, obv cant read it in on sitting |
| 23:04 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1137 @ 0.00012387 = 0.1408 BTC [-] |
| 23:05 |
Vexual |
i also salute tou ascii |
| 23:06 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.00090608 = 13.4553 BTC [+] {2} |
| 23:06 |
asciilifeform |
that piece was long ago, i'm no longer convinced that everything absolutely must be blockchain-based. |
| 23:07 |
asciilifeform |
just as not every vehicle needs Chobham armour. |
| 23:07 |
Vexual |
yes no date.. |
| 23:07 |
amidvidy |
asciilifeform: have you heard of tonika (http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/~petar/5ttt.org/) ? Thought of it when I read the part of your article about building systems that incorporate trust |
| 23:08 |
asciilifeform |
thought 'this sounds like kademlia', then read to the end. |
| 23:09 |
amidvidy |
The author also wrote kademlia, this is his effort to design a DHT that is resistant to Sybil attacks |
| 23:12 |
asciilifeform |
amidvidy: this fact is not 'sexy', but it takes quite a bit of work to go from algo to usable software. (why this happens to be so, is largely the subject of my blog) |
| 23:14 |
amidvidy |
a recent systems course I took hammered that point in quite hard by having us read Google's "Paxos Made Live" paper |
| 23:15 |
asciilifeform |
what they won't teach you is that all of this crap can be made to vanish. |
| 23:15 |
asciilifeform |
but i digress. |
| 23:18 |
Vexual |
are you taking critical thinking too? |
| 23:22 |
Vexual |
i attended a lecture once, asked 3 questions; stack overflow |
| 23:22 |
amidvidy |
I use stack overflow for all my critical thinking needs |
| 23:23 |
amidvidy |
as Immanuel Kant once said, if the answer isn't googleable, the question isn't worth asking |
| 23:23 |
truffles |
... |
| 23:24 |
truffles |
i feel like google is broken, i get relevant stuff at page buttom |
| 23:26 |
Vexual |
i even sued a law school i wasn't enrolled in for wasting my time and they settled |
| 23:30 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.26599 = 0.532 BTC [+] |
| 23:41 |
Vexual |
so kid, can you take trustlesness off the chain? |
| 23:41 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.26599 = 1.064 BTC [+] |
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~ 15 minutes ~ |
| 23:56 |
Vexual |
http://vimeo.com/29785190 |
| 23:56 |
ozbot |
Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues on Vimeo |
| 23:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7053 @ 0.00090612 = 6.3909 BTC [+] {2} |