#trilema | 2013-12-11

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00:00	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00086695 = 3.7279 BTC [+]
00:10	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05 = 1 BTC
00:10	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.156 BTC [+]
00:12	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.15799999 BTC [+]
00:20	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.05 = 2 BTC
00:21	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11550 @ 0.00086695 = 10.0133 BTC [+]
		~ 35 minutes ~
00:57	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC
00:57	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10987 @ 0.00086758 = 9.5321 BTC [+] {2}
		~ 25 minutes ~
01:22	BingoBoingo	If anyone wants to know how Open Source chess engines stack up against each other in the event that Play Chess for BTC becomes a thing so far it seems Stockfish>fruit>Pychess>Phlanx
01:26	BingoBoingo	Depending on how affluent suckers are it may be worth setting up a Windows machine to run Rybka though.
01:33	BingoBoingo	I'm finding some exceptions though. Fruit tends to annihilate Stockfish under strict (under 5 minute time constraints) while black. I also imagine the results might differ if I actually allowed any of these engines access to an opening book.
01:34	KRS\|Gotyawallet	o/
01:35	BingoBoingo	KRS\|Gotyawallet: I'm just testing and releasing some early findings in case someone would decide to advance such a broken idea
01:35	KRS\|Gotyawallet	ok
01:36	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00086783 = 0.8678 BTC [+]
01:36	KRS\|Gotyawallet	whatcha got
01:36	BingoBoingo	KRS\|Gotyawallet: Just engines running natively in Linux through PyChess fighting each other.
01:37	KRS\|Gotyawallet	hmmm
01:37	KRS\|Gotyawallet	pretty interesting
01:38	BingoBoingo	KRS\|Gotyawallet: Without any opening books feeding them they actually seem to be playing rather crippled in the early going.
01:38	KRS\|Gotyawallet	i like the idea of modifying open source software to be driven by btc
01:39	KRS\|Gotyawallet	im a sysadmin..so i tend to think business apps- check it
01:39	KRS\|Gotyawallet	you know that thing jurov set up - the open terminal i forgot the url
01:40	KRS\|Gotyawallet	you click start and get a linux shell
01:40	KRS\|Gotyawallet	dig..
01:40	KRS\|Gotyawallet	same thing-but "Insert 0.01 for SugarCRM instance"
01:40	KRS\|Gotyawallet	then the customer can go in and fiddle with SugarCRM
01:41	KRS\|Gotyawallet	I've always hated having to set up a vm or download a virtual appliance and set it up on my own
01:41	KRS\|Gotyawallet	I just want to use it damnit.
01:41	KRS\|Gotyawallet	dig?
01:41	KRS\|Gotyawallet	There are 1000's of apps that take time to set up to be able to use them..
01:42	BingoBoingo	Yeah, the catch is though that a lot of those demanding set up steps exist for reasons.
01:42	KRS\|Gotyawallet	Usually you have to download a virtual appliance or if the vendor/project has a demo its restricted
01:42	KRS\|Gotyawallet	im thinking this eliminates those reasons..concerns?
01:43	KRS\|Gotyawallet	btw get ready to lose 25% or so of your btc net wealth
01:43	BingoBoingo	Eh, why would I lose that?
01:43	KRS\|Gotyawallet	market aint so hot lately
01:44	KRS\|Gotyawallet	im thinking if market price doesnt stabilize at 900's again it'll go 700's if it doesnt stop there i think down further
01:44	KRS\|Gotyawallet	been real unstable lately
01:44	BingoBoingo	KRS\|Gotyawallet: How much were you watching BTC this spring in the period immediately after it broke $80
01:46	kanzure	i thought sugarcrm was ran by a company that sells sugarcrm instances
01:46	kanzure	are you just banking on "i can integrate btc faster than whoever is running sugarcrm's parent company at the moment can"
01:46	kanzure	like, the obvious downside here is that you would have to actually support sugarcrm instances..... yeah.
01:50	BingoBoingo	I'm really not worried about how thin BTC orderbooks are contributing to this present volatility because generally the asks side (aka people with BTC) tends to be better at bluffing than the bids are.
01:52	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC
02:06	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15671 @ 0.00086663 = 13.581 BTC [-]
02:07	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6577 @ 0.00086547 = 5.6922 BTC [-]
		~ 28 minutes ~
02:36	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 875 @ 0.00086547 = 0.7573 BTC [-]
02:46	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8310 @ 0.00086666 = 7.2019 BTC [+] {2}
02:47	KRS\|Gotyawallet	wow thats a great analysis bingoboingo
02:48	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.158 BTC [+]
02:48	KRS\|Gotyawallet	i'm still learning trading i've been working at it for a year
02:48	BingoBoingo	KRS\|Gotyawallet: That guess comes from nothing sophisticated.
02:48	BingoBoingo	It may be completely wrong
02:49	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.05 = 0.75 BTC
02:55	KRS\|Gotyawallet	oh hah
02:55	KRS\|Gotyawallet	makes sense
02:59	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 5 @ 0.13900001 = 0.695 BTC [-] {4}
03:00	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2550 @ 0.00010292 = 0.2624 BTC [+] {2}
03:04	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00297001 = 0.1188 BTC [-]
03:05	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3300 @ 0.000103 = 0.3399 BTC [+]
03:05	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.09133333 = 0.274 BTC [-] {3}
03:06	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC
03:14	KRS\|Gotyawallet	kakkobrekla..
03:15	KRS\|Gotyawallet	This doesn't seem like good news.
03:15	KRS\|Gotyawallet	"If Bitcoin was a country — Bitcoinistan? — it would be like Somalia."
03:15	KRS\|Gotyawallet	http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bitcoin-proves-libertarians-idea-paradise-022800742.html
03:15	ozbot	Bitcoin Proves The Libertarian Idea Of Paradise Would Be Hell On Earth - Yahoo Finance
03:15	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 700 @ 0.00296178 = 2.0732 BTC [-] {7}
03:21	KRS\|Gotyawallet	BITBET! http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/12/10/this-finance-expert-thinks-bitcoin-will-fall-99-percent-by-june/
03:34	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.319 BTC [+]
03:39	javanomad	;;seen unbalanced
03:39	gribble	unbalanced was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 5 hours, 58 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: <unbalanced> (wish I'd hit enter a half-second sooner)
		~ 16 minutes ~
03:56	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13450 @ 0.00086621 = 11.6505 BTC [-] {3}
		~ 20 minutes ~
04:16	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05 = 1 BTC
		~ 28 minutes ~
04:45	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58400 @ 0.00086801 = 50.6918 BTC [+] {6}
04:58	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25600 @ 0.00086464 = 22.1348 BTC [-] {2}
05:12	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.15000001 BTC [-]
05:12	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 390 @ 0.00049999 = 0.195 BTC [-] {2}
05:15	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 31 @ 0.14303225 = 4.434 BTC [-] {11}
05:16	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.1393 = 1.393 BTC [-] {3}
05:17	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 43 @ 0.13289766 = 5.7146 BTC [-] {6}
05:21	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10325 @ 0.00008114 = 0.8378 BTC [-] {11}
05:22	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24838 @ 0.0008706 = 21.624 BTC [+] {3}
05:22	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 32089 @ 0.0000703 = 2.2559 BTC [-] {9}
05:24	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 16 @ 0.12775 = 2.044 BTC [-] {2}
05:24	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2845 @ 0.00046332 = 1.3181 BTC [-] {8}
05:28	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00010299 = 0.103 BTC [+]
05:42	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.00087309 = 11.9177 BTC [+] {2}
05:46	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.15999997 BTC [+]
		~ 30 minutes ~
06:16	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2070 @ 0.00087347 = 1.8081 BTC [+]
		~ 19 minutes ~
06:36	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11848 @ 0.0008714 = 10.3243 BTC [-] {2}
		~ 26 minutes ~
07:02	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25250 @ 0.00087493 = 22.092 BTC [+] {3}
07:04	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00296 = 0.296 BTC [-] {3}
07:16	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00087244 = 8.8989 BTC [-]
07:23	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00087567 = 11.6464 BTC [+] {2}
07:25	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.129 = 0.258 BTC [+] {2}
07:33	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 1773 @ 0.0001008 = 0.1787 BTC [-] {3}
07:34	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 3227 @ 0.00010025 = 0.3235 BTC [-] {4}
07:35	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.13500001 BTC [-]
07:42	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 57 @ 0.00296 = 0.1687 BTC [-]
07:43	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.30300001 BTC [-]
07:43	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12715 @ 0.00087152 = 11.0814 BTC [-] {2}
07:44	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.303 BTC [-]
07:52	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.31899999 BTC [+]
07:53	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.319 BTC [+]
07:56	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13450 @ 0.00087517 = 11.771 BTC [+]
08:03	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 156 @ 0.00295987 = 0.4617 BTC [-] {2}
08:04	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 344 @ 0.00292286 = 1.0055 BTC [-] {8}
08:08	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00295 = 0.1475 BTC [+] {4}
08:12	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4110 @ 0.00087517 = 3.5969 BTC [+]
		~ 16 minutes ~
08:28	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02349993 = 0.1175 BTC [+] {2}
08:29	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.00007009 = 0.3505 BTC [-] {5}
08:30	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5917 @ 0.00087624 = 5.1847 BTC [+] {2}
08:32	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22900 @ 0.00087656 = 20.0732 BTC [+] {2}
08:44	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.31787142 = 2.2251 BTC [-] {2}
08:45	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 15 @ 0.0235 = 0.3525 BTC [+] {2}
08:53	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19234 @ 0.00087297 = 16.7907 BTC [-]
08:55	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 240 @ 0.05 = 12 BTC
08:58	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00087477 = 12.2468 BTC [+] {2}
		~ 17 minutes ~
09:15	Sabroshi	;;estimate
09:15	gribble	Next difficulty estimate \| 1039124171.64 based on data since last change \| 894132728.373 based on data for last three days
09:17	mircea_popescu	oy Sabroshi cabron! como estas!
09:18	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00290003 = 2.9 BTC [-] {3}
09:18	Sabroshi	Ola! Ola!
09:19	Sabroshi	;;nethash
09:19	gribble	6400549.04237
09:19	Sabroshi	still broken, nanotube knows tho
09:21	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.137 BTC [+]
09:24	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.0008742 = 12.1514 BTC [-]
		~ 21 minutes ~
09:46	mircea_popescu	When Weinstein was charged with handling the US release of Princess Mononoke, he received a samurai sword in the mail with an attached note that read, "No cuts."
09:51	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC
09:54	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4429 @ 0.00087092 = 3.8573 BTC [-] {2}
09:55	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 332 @ 0.00287856 = 0.9557 BTC [-] {13}
10:04	jurov	kakobrekla: http://www.kompot.sk/eshop/tricka/ludom-jebe-girl/ understand? want one?
10:07	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.30200005 BTC [-]
10:08	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.30200001 = 1.51 BTC [-] {3}
10:14	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 571 @ 0.00289163 = 1.6511 BTC [-] {3}
10:15	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17204 @ 0.00087208 = 15.0033 BTC [+]
10:18	mircea_popescu	https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=n7hiuXjXJEw << ipo that crow!
10:19	mircea_popescu	jurov cunny crew would have been a better name for a radical sewing circle.
10:20	jurov	oh, they prefer local spelling
10:21	mircea_popescu	well then why "crew"
10:22	mircea_popescu	kundy krai
10:22	jurov	http://www.kompot.sk/eshop/tricka/naive-boy/
10:23	KRS\|Gotyawallet	you guys know anything about cex.io cloudhashing shares? i cant see how its profitable
10:23	KRS\|Gotyawallet	i must be doing something wrong
10:23	mircea_popescu	don't know anything that'd indicate it's profitable.
10:23	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 13 @ 0.02249999 = 0.2925 BTC [-]
10:23	jurov	ppl know what "kundy" and "crew" is. i had to look "cunny" up
10:23	KRS\|Gotyawallet	yea i ran the numbers it just doesnt make sense
10:24	mircea_popescu	jurov that's a point.
10:24	mircea_popescu	i think kundy is exactly it tho, neh ? cutest way to say girlbit.
10:25	jurov	not sure if cutest... that would be "pička"
10:25	jurov	and it's plural, singular is kunda
10:26	mircea_popescu	romanian uses pizda but doesn't have a picka ;/
10:29	pankkake	KRS\|Gotyawallet: they probably get their success from the referal program
10:29	pankkake	if you want any chance of profit, you have to spam
10:30	mircea_popescu	so it's a... mlm thing ?
10:31	pankkake	I think there's only one level, but it certainly smells like it
10:31	mircea_popescu	slm
10:36	KRS\|Gotyawallet	pankkake do they think people are stupid
10:36	KRS\|Gotyawallet	facepalm
10:36	pankkake	isn't it the first assumption when you create a btc investment?
10:37	pankkake	and yet I'm pretty sure they were cheaper than many that were around when they started
10:38	pankkake	kinda like TAT.VM
10:38	pankkake	at least it limits the scale of the overpricing… ?
10:38	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.30073334 = 1.8044 BTC [-] {3}
10:41	KRS\|Gotyawallet	yea i guess the only ones that were able to make anything of it are those who invested then reinvested their earnings a few times..back when btc was $200 there might have been a decent roi
10:42	KRS\|Gotyawallet	i was looking at them back then but it looked so scammy.
10:43	KRS\|Gotyawallet	oh wow gox went down hard like the old days
10:43	KRS\|Gotyawallet	i miss those days..cheap coin
10:48	pankkake	She not only has delicious tits
10:48	pankkake	she has infamous wits
10:48	pankkake
10:48	pankkake	Her beautiful nose
10:48	pankkake	can't rival her insightful prose
10:50	mircea_popescu	http://your-daily-girl.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Larissa-Riquelme-11.jpg
10:50	mircea_popescu	and she'd also look much better with a curly mustache
10:51	pankkake	is that supposed to be 3D?
10:52	mircea_popescu	i think they just don't have nude beaches in paraguay
10:54	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.05 = 0.75 BTC
10:58	KRS\|Gotyawallet	btw if mpex sells cex shares, i meant their mining offering directly from them 1ghash .07 btc.. i wasn't talking about securities
10:58	KRS\|Gotyawallet	im looking to diversify a bit and pick up another investment
11:01	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 54201 @ 0.00010738 = 5.8201 BTC [+] {13}
11:05	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 18 @ 0.17327776 = 3.119 BTC [+] {10}
11:05	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.13999999 BTC [+]
11:17	nubbins`	hi
11:20	Kleeck	http://guardianlv.com/2013/12/icelanders-overthrow-government-and-rewrite-constitution-after-banking-fraud-no-word-from-us-media/
11:20	ozbot	Icelanders Overthrow Government and Rewrite Constitution After Banking Fraud-No Word From US Media
11:22	nubbins`	Kleeck: that's months old
11:23	nubbins`	maybe even last year
11:23	Kleeck	Added by Rebecca Savastio on December 2, 2013.
11:23	Kleeck	I'm in the US, so this is the first I've heard of it. :D
11:23	nubbins`	yeah, she's writing about an event that happened last year :D
11:23	nubbins`	either way, interesting story
11:23	Kleeck	Yup.
11:23	Kleeck	Very.
11:23	nubbins`	An “iReport” on CNN, written by a private citizen in May 2012, has questioned the reasons why this revolution has not been widely covered in the U.S.
11:24	Kleeck	In the US we would be labeled as terrorists.
11:24	Kleeck	Yes. The revolution was post 2008 economic collapse.
11:30	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11925 @ 0.00087305 = 10.4111 BTC [+] {2}
11:30	Rulother	keep up Kleeck
11:30	Rulother	Thats some old news
11:31	Kleeck	I understand that the event is old. The article is about more than just the overthrow.
11:33	nubbins`	;;echo SO OLD LELELEL WHAT ARE YOU DOING :D
11:33	gribble	SO OLD LELELEL WHAT ARE YOU DOING :D
11:38	pankkake	older than the internet!
11:42	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15250 @ 0.00087598 = 13.3587 BTC [+] {3}
11:44	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MG] 2994 @ 0.000115 = 0.3443 BTC [-]
11:50	manky	;;ticker
11:50	gribble	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
11:56	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4622 @ 0.00088003 = 4.0675 BTC [+]
11:58	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1166 @ 0.00011 = 0.1283 BTC [-] {2}
12:00	deadweasel	;;ticker
12:00	gribble	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
12:00	deadweasel	dammit gribs, lazy bot
12:01	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.14 = 0.7 BTC [+]
12:04	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00087549 = 1.4883 BTC [-]
12:04	deadweasel	;;ticker
12:04	gribble	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
12:17	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.29249949 = 5.85 BTC [-] {5}
12:22	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.29209 = 2.3367 BTC [-] {2}
12:27	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.141 BTC [+]
12:29	Kleeck	http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/12/10/this-finance-expert-thinks-bitcoin-will-fall-99-percent-by-june/
12:29	ozbot	This finance expert thinks Bitcoin will fall 99 percent by June
12:30	ThickAsThieves	lucky if it falls to 99%
12:30	Duffer1	even i could be able to afford to buy back in if that happens, that would be amazing
12:30	assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!
12:30	Duffer1	damn you assbot
12:31	pankkake	he probably hasn't the balls to bet on that though
12:31	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00293604 = 0.5872 BTC [+] {5}
12:31	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 61 @ 0.02434538 = 1.4851 BTC [+] {5}
12:32	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.143 = 0.715 BTC [+] {3}
12:33	deadweasel	make a bitbet, send to author
12:33	ThickAsThieves	that article never bothers to make a point
12:35	ThickAsThieves	TLDR: Bitcoin will die cuz it has the most support of any crypto and cuz it's volatile and crashed this week. Btw, where can I buy bitcoins again?
12:42	mircea_popescu	"bitcoin will die because it upsets the world i'm familiar with"
12:42	mircea_popescu	"the government will prevent bitcoin from upsetting the world i'm familiar with"
12:43	mircea_popescu	"people who better adapt to things that upset the world i'm familiar with never get better pay, more attention and a nicer life than me"
12:43	mircea_popescu	basically bitcoin is the anti-religion : it exposes the implicit bible of everyone else.
12:47	Kleeck	Courtesy if deizel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r00IjBdp-ZA
12:48	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19650 @ 0.00087549 = 17.2034 BTC [-]
12:54	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.05 = 0.3 BTC
12:55	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.292061 = 0.5841 BTC [-]
13:04	Kleeck	http://imgur.com/R1v2xB5
13:04	ozbot	imgur: the simple image sharer
13:10	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8250 @ 0.00087758 = 7.24 BTC [+]
13:15	mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-will-die/
13:15	ozbot	Bitcoin will die pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
13:19	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16425 @ 0.00087445 = 14.3628 BTC [-] {3}
13:20	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8075 @ 0.00087356 = 7.054 BTC [-]
13:22	deadweasel	$avg
13:22	mpexbot	deadweasel: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
13:25	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.0008759 = 4.2481 BTC [+]
13:26	mircea_popescu	so romanian health ministry would not spring for a hospital in this small northern town. consequently, they changed the town name plaques on all the roads
13:26	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.29206066 = 0.8762 BTC [-] {2}
13:26	mircea_popescu	welcome to coas! drive carefully : we have six graveyards and not a single hospital
13:26	mircea_popescu	http://lauraspataru.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/coas_17906500.jpg
13:27	nubbins`	hahahaha
13:28	sbp	when we have to update signs in the UK, the councils complain that they cost too many hundreds of thousands of pounds to change. for the cost of changing those signs, maybe Coaș could have afforded a new hospital...
13:29	mircea_popescu	i doubt the whole story cost 5k
13:29	sbp	these days you can 3d print a hospital for 3k
13:29	assbot	Last 8 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1500616/plain/)
13:29	mircea_popescu	!b 8
13:29	mircea_popescu	bwahaha
13:30	sbp	how's Cardano coming along, mircea_popescu? looking forward to it
13:30	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 6 @ 0.05166332 = 0.31 BTC [+] {3}
13:31	sbp	I was reading asciilifeform's notes about RNG on Trilema earlier
13:31	mircea_popescu	well... work, you know ?
13:34	sbp	yeah
13:34	sbp	give it a cognitive nudge of interest from me though
13:34	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 56 @ 0.00284155 = 0.1591 BTC [-] {6}
13:34	mircea_popescu	asciilifeform is actually waking up at night because of the thing.
13:35	sbp	heh! awesome. well, awesome inasmuch as it doesn't distract him from Loper... :-)
13:35	mircea_popescu	i have my doubts whether he's eating properly.
13:35	sbp	well hopefully he doesn't end up like Gödel
13:36	deadweasel	pay a local homeless man to keep an eye on him.
13:36	mircea_popescu	wasn't godel the guy with two wives ?
13:36	sbp	not as far as I remember. logician who died of starvation because he believed he was being poisoned. (not very logical)
13:36	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 84 @ 0.00255201 = 0.2144 BTC [-]
13:38	mircea_popescu	you're right, schroedinger had a girl with two women.
13:39	deadweasel	well, he kept one of them in a box, so it's debatable.
13:40	mircea_popescu	no, he kept milton (his cat) in the box
13:40	sbp	haha, Schrödinger seriously had a cat named Milton? great
13:41	sbp	you know, Heisenberg had twins. well, his wife did
13:41	sbp	after she gave birth, Pauli congratulated Heisenberg on pair production
13:41	mircea_popescu	lol
13:41	sbp	should have asked him which was his favourite. he never could decide...
13:43	mircea_popescu	http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/lehigh-county/index.ssf/2013/08/women_report_man_was_openly_ma.html
13:43	ozbot	Women report man openly performing sex act; he claims it was jock itch, cops say \| lehighvall
13:43	mircea_popescu	don't be a jock, the police are cracking down.
13:44	deadweasel	lol, my junk was itchy, now I'm in jail.
13:44	mircea_popescu	i wasn't gonna scratch my cock
13:44	mircea_popescu	but then i got high... then i got high...
13:49	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.1445 BTC [+]
13:50	Kleeck	Courtesy of Crunchyarms: http://imgur.com/lmHvt4R
13:50	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 50 @ 0.00205 = 0.1025 BTC [-]
13:50	Kleeck	(Sidebar needs futher modification.)
13:50	deadweasel	the thc irritates my crabs, sir.
13:50	deadweasel	don't tase me bro?
13:51	mircea_popescu	Kleeck still, an envelope ?
13:53	sbp	http://www.sparecoins.io/
13:53	sbp	keep a wallet in your browser
13:53	sbp	nothing can go wrong
13:53	sbp	nothing
13:53	Kleeck	Yeah. It took him 2 minutes. :) Still fits though, right. Mailing money?
13:53	Kleeck	Oh no.
13:53	Kleeck	http://imgur.com/UIScPVi
13:53	ozbot	imgur: the simple image sharer
13:53	Kleeck	Even more.
13:53	dexX7	hehe
13:53	Kleeck	Again, courtesy Crunchyarms.
13:54	mircea_popescu	hahaha
13:58	BingoBoingo	http://www.bnd.com/2013/12/11/2954203/toddler-helps-county-decide-order.html
13:58	ozbot	Toddler helps county decide order of candidates on primary ballot \| Metro-east news \| News Democrat
13:58	dexX7	lol goat makes news on reddit.. "someone on 4chan bought a lambo with 216 btc"
13:59	Kleeck	This is the dumbest video ever.
14:06	thestringpuller	;;bc,stats
14:06	gribble	Current Blocks: 274372 \| Current Difficulty: 9.08350862437022E8 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 276191 \| Next Difficulty In: 1819 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 14 hours, 3 minutes, and 49 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 1034198923.97 \| Estimated Percent Change: 13.85457
14:06	nubbins`	i'm always pleasantly surprised by the price of things in btc
14:07	nubbins`	like, i just realized a 3d printer is < 2 btc
14:07	nubbins`	what madness!
14:09	KRS\|Gotyawallet	wow
14:10	pankkake	sparecoins is aptly named
14:11	pankkake	;;estimate
14:11	gribble	Next difficulty estimate \| 1036361795.11 based on data since last change \| 894132728.373 based on data for last three days
14:11	pankkake	I want to believe that last 3 days thing
14:11	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.145 BTC [+]
14:11	sbp	nubbins`: start thinking of prices in mBTC. then you can say almost exactly the same thing in a year or so
14:12	mircea_popescu	haha well put sbp
14:14	sbp	somebody needs to work on a media friendly name for µBTC
14:15	sbp	we'll never need nBTC, unless they split the Satoshi
14:15	mircea_popescu	urmomtc
14:15	sbp	media friendly, not 4chan friendly
14:15	mircea_popescu	o o sorry my bad
14:15	FabianB	why not skip all the steps inbetween and go with satoshi
14:15	nubbins`	^
14:15	pankkake	I've seen millibit
14:15	mircea_popescu	tbh, this mili and micro stuff is nonsense.
14:15	mircea_popescu	we will use the 1/10000 unit
14:15	mircea_popescu	and the two sub units the cent and the millionth
14:15	mircea_popescu	bitcoin is base 2 not base 3.
14:16	nubbins`	why don't we just cobble together a series of retarded nonsensical names for all the different decimal places and use that?
14:17	nubbins`	100 glaps to the quighorc, etc
14:17	sbp	please call one the quatloo...
14:17	mircea_popescu	lol. mmorpg square
14:17	mircea_popescu	sbp actually the 10k one makes sense as a quatloo
14:17	sbp	deal
14:18	sbp	quick, mine a block with "10k = quatloo!!!" in it
14:18	nubbins`	you'll need to reverse the terms or add another = ;)
14:19	sbp	blockchain notes should be called Sassamen
14:19	nubbins`	anyway, i'd want some way to make money off a 3d printer before i could justify buying one
14:19	FabianB	chinese (and i think japanese too) has words and characters for 10^4 and 10^8, none for 10^6 though, so much better for satoshi/btc
14:19	nubbins`	otherwise it's just another thing i don't have space for
14:20	nubbins`	myriads
14:20	mircea_popescu	FabianB say them ?
14:20	FabianB	in pinyin 10^4 is 'wan' and 10^8 'yi'
14:21	kanzure	sbp: hi
14:21	nubbins`	korean has 10^2, 3, 4, 8, 12, and every +4 thereafter
14:21	sbp	hey kanzure
14:21	nubbins`	up to almost 10^100, i think
14:21	dexX7	<mircea_popescu> tbh, this mili and micro stuff is nonsense. << well, it's easy to remember.. 1 millibit is approx 1 $
14:21	mike_c	nubbins`: sell snowflakes. http://www.shapeways.com/
14:21	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.0008759 = 4.0291 BTC [+]
14:21	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 145 @ 0.00255201 = 0.37 BTC [-] {4}
14:21	mircea_popescu	dexX7 not for long
14:21	sbp	(万 and 亿)
14:22	dexX7	hehe
14:22	dexX7	i like when you are bullish (if you are)
14:22	nubbins`	10^4 units of korean won is about $10, so it's good they'd have a reasonably short name for it
14:22	mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2013/mpex-one-year-of-dividends/#identifier_4_47551 << for teh reference
14:22	ozbot	MPEx : one year of dividends pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
14:23	nubbins`	i don't think you're using the term "base" the way other people use it
14:24	FabianB	an mpex account is 30亿satoshi :)
14:24	mircea_popescu	the count of zeroes is also a number.
14:25	nubbins`	30억 satoshi
14:25	mircea_popescu	30 亿s
14:25	mircea_popescu	i likethe sound of that
14:26	mircea_popescu	so 亿 is wan, which is the w part, the misshapen 1 or the insecure 2 ?
14:27	nubbins`	i agree on the half-length tho, i've been mentally digesting satoshi-denominated amounts this way to make sense of them for a while now
14:27	nubbins`	chinese characters make no sense to me
14:27	FabianB	mircea_popescu: no, 亿 is 'yi' (10^8)
14:28	mircea_popescu	a a
14:28	nubbins`	korean is very logical, each block is a syllable composed of up to 3 sounds
14:28	pankkake	http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/12/we-cannot-trust-intel-and-vias-chip-based-crypto-freebsd-developers-say/
14:29	FabianB	wan is 10k and 万
14:29	sbp	nubbins`: I tried learning Hangul once. I had problems doing the aspirated p, for some reason. I kept practicing it, but whatever I did, I could not make that damn aspirated p sound. it was driving me insane, so I looked into it carefully
14:30	sbp	eventually I realised that all of my p's are aspirated!
14:30	mircea_popescu	lol
14:30	sbp	of course, then I had problems making a non-aspirated p...
14:30	nubbins`	heh. consonants are hard.
14:30	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 99 @ 0.00209 = 0.2069 BTC [+]
14:30	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.05 = 0.2 BTC
14:30	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.30493107 BTC [+]
14:31	nubbins`	how many times would i have to repeat my address to the taxi driver 10 times
14:31	nubbins`	"남양 아파트!!"
14:31	nubbins`	eventually he says
14:31	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.0008759 = 2.9781 BTC [+]
14:31	nubbins`	"ahhhhh! 남양 아파트!!"
14:32	nubbins`	completely indistinguishable from what i was saying
14:32	nubbins`	the double consonants are odd too
14:32	nubbins`	double d's and k's and stuff
14:33	sbp	yeah, faucalised
14:33	sbp	need to exercise your faucal cords, heh
14:42	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 201 @ 0.002103 = 0.4227 BTC [+] {3}
14:47	dexX7	http://www.coinion.com/2013/12/11/child-labor-bitcoin-mines-exposed/
14:48	mircea_popescu	lol
14:48	mircea_popescu	asciilifeform check it out man, slave coin. it's happening.
14:50	pigeons	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=194655.0
14:50	ozbot	[ANN] CPcoin, the first Child Friendly Coin
14:51	dexX7	is "Child Pageant" a friendly phrase for child porn?
14:52	mircea_popescu	in the sense mineral water is a friendly phrase for vodka
14:52	dexX7	hehe
14:53	mircea_popescu	i think child pageants is what soccer moms do after the thrill of control soccer provides is no longer enough
14:56	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.05 = 0.4 BTC {3}
14:57	pankkake	child pageants attendance 50% soccer mons 50% paedos
14:59	dexX7	i think the altcoin winner of the month is dogecoin
14:59	dexX7	http://www.zazzle.com/official_dogecoin_t_shirt-235041754845982282 :D
14:59	ozbot	Official DOGECOIN T-Shirt from Zazzle.com
14:59	pankkake	lol
15:00	asciilifeform	i expected DOGECOIN to involve old Venice / slave trade...
15:00	pankkake	it's from a meme I never understood, but I loled anyway https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=361813.0
15:00	dexX7	haha yea, that's it
15:01	dexX7	most active altcoin thread for some days now
15:01	pankkake	fucking 46 pages lol
15:01	mircea_popescu	o wait. not just a logo, also a zazzle shirt ?
15:01	mircea_popescu	winner.
15:01	mircea_popescu	wow it doesn't ? what a letdown.
15:03	pankkake	I'll buy the physical coins
15:05	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 248 @ 0.00246126 = 0.6104 BTC [+] {2}
15:06	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 100 @ 0.00275 = 0.275 BTC [+]
15:06	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.0029436 = 0.103 BTC [-]
15:08	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00088012 = 6.4249 BTC [+] {2}
15:10	sbp	mircea_popescu: Knuth cheats at email, by the way
15:10	sbp	he sent an hilarious email to a team that a friend of mine was involved in, in about 2005 or so
15:11	sbp	but he got his secretary to send it... :-)
15:11	sbp	here: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-validator/2005Sep/0052.html
15:11	mircea_popescu	kinda like me and the forum.
15:11	asciilifeform	or the pope's 'twitter' account, etc.
15:12	sbp	I love that they deleted all the old pope's tweets
15:12	mircea_popescu	who does the pope on twitter ? jesys ?
15:13	asciilifeform	richard stallman is also well known for having minions check his mail (and even load pages)
15:13	sbp	bet they didn't do that in the Vatican Library too. set fire to all of Benedict's papers
15:13	pigeons	well the idea of a secretary is that he/sh checks your mail so you can work
15:14	asciilifeform	division of labour. most of us pay other people to slaughter and gut animals for the table. what's the problem in doing the same with email, if you can afford it...
15:15	mircea_popescu	sbp at some point they used to.
15:20	kanzure	sbp: would be nice if the pope starts using btc. then church finances become slightly more auditable.
15:20	mircea_popescu	Look folks, I know that software rot (sometimes called "progress")
15:20	mircea_popescu	keeps growing, and backwards compatibility is not always possible.
15:20	mircea_popescu	hahaha
15:20	kanzure	that's just a clever way of saying "you do it"
15:22	mircea_popescu	he mirrors quite exacrtly why i quit caring about html validation and "validity" in general, circa 2007
15:22	mircea_popescu	blessfully ignorant of the guy's pov. but fuck you html standards people.
15:23	mircea_popescu	this is one of those situations where the spec may only grow. you're free to add css into the spec, but you are not allowed to "stop supporting" table elements or w/e
15:23	asciilifeform	http://philip.greenspun.com/research/shame-and-war-old
15:23	ozbot	We Have Chosen Shame and Will Get War.
15:26	mircea_popescu	Make a graph with time on the x-axis and formatting capabilities on the y-axis. Draw a line from the HTML level 1 to HTML level 3. You'll see that HTML reaches LaTeX's level of formatting capability around the year 2000.
15:26	mircea_popescu	If we are going to get there eventually, we might as well get there soon.
15:26	mircea_popescu	ha. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
15:26	mircea_popescu	o kill me dead.
15:26	mircea_popescu	what ?
15:29	mircea_popescu	;;bcstats
15:29	gribble	Current Blocks: 274385 \| Current Difficulty: 9.08350862437022E8 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 276191 \| Next Difficulty In: 1806 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 3 hours, 33 minutes, and 20 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 1051660720.0 \| Estimated Percent Change: 15.77693
15:39	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05 = 1 BTC
15:48	pankkake	https://bitbucket.org/pankkake/asslyrics/src/87b8e1c6b67c1692dc4b37081a8db8615ddb2509/straightouttatimisoara.txt?at=master could be longer, but I ran out of inspiration
15:48	ozbot	pankkake / asslyrics
15:49	nubbins`	LaTeX is great
15:49	pankkake	but ugly
15:49	nubbins`	only when you're creating it.
15:49	nubbins`	looks beautiful once you're done ;D
15:49	nubbins`	dogecoin << would buy
15:50	benkay	unfortunately most designers can only gui and so we have pdf. huzzah.
15:50	mircea_popescu	people who can only gui are not designers.
15:50	mircea_popescu	this is like saying "most engineers can only autocad"
15:51	asciilifeform	laugh, but this has become an actual fact.
15:51	benkay	"designers", then.
15:51	mircea_popescu	pankkake this ain't a penis contest, it doesn't have to be long, it has to be thick
15:51	mircea_popescu	nm, on second thought it is a penis contest.
15:51	asciilifeform	'it will be long, it will be hard, and there shall be no withdrawal'...
15:51	pankkake	well this one is pretty much an egotrip, and you should be an endless source of that
15:51	dexX7	there was a small discussion about korean ips monitors with ThickAsThieves and kakobrekla some weeks ago.. i ended up buying two dell u2412m and had a 27" here earlier, but it was too big. but i have to say: ips displays are nice
15:51	pankkake	:D
15:51	mircea_popescu	how's the girl gonna sing it then lol
15:51	sbp	kanzure: Snoop Dogg is into BTC, don't see why Francis I shouldn't be next
15:52	pankkake	I wouldn't go back to anything non IPS
15:52	pankkake	pretty much requirement number one for a place of work
15:52	pankkake	cause Francis is a communist
15:52	asciilifeform	the rhyme reminds me of another: http://blog.sayan.ee/a-birthday-poem/
15:52	mircea_popescu	;;google "it will be long; it will be hard; and there shall be no withdrawal."
15:52	gribble	Percocet withdrawals, how long do they last? - Addiction: Substance ...: <http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Addiction-Substance-Abuse/Percocet-withdrawals--how-long-do-they-last/show/55002>; How To Detox From Opiates At Home - Withdrawal Ease: <http://www.withdrawal-ease.com/how-to-detox-from-opiates-at-home/>; Alcohol Withdrawal Symptoms Can Make It Hard to Quit Drinking: (1 more message)
15:53	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20512 @ 0.00088319 = 18.116 BTC [+] {3}
15:53	asciilifeform	winston c.
15:54	mircea_popescu	asciilifeform the only google hit on the actual quoted string comes from files.meetup.com/8900962/Review%20Chap.%203-4%20Gurl-Posse.doc
15:54	asciilifeform	weird
15:54	mircea_popescu	which i find strangely strengthens your point
15:54	pankkake	Gurl Posse lol
15:54	mircea_popescu	pankkake a REVIEW thereof.
15:54	mircea_popescu	it just blew my mind.
15:55	pankkake	google book search can often give you strange results
15:55	asciilifeform	just the question of what is a 'gurl', one could think about for a while.
15:55	mircea_popescu	http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/mean_girls_picture.bmp << who's the awkward / uncomfortable chick on the left ?
15:55	mircea_popescu	asciilifeform a gurl is a waitress past her 30th bday.
15:56	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21450 @ 0.00087902 = 18.855 BTC [-]
15:56	mircea_popescu	rarely, a younger girl that will be a waitress past 30.
15:56	asciilifeform	that's more or less: usa in one sentence.
15:56	TomServo	dexX7: was anything larger recommended?
15:57	dexX7	there are super cheap (but worth) 27" ips displays from korea on ebay
15:57	asciilifeform	amusingly, loan word 'герла' is more or less equivalent in meaning to 'gurl' above.
15:58	dexX7	but it's too big imho
15:58	TomServo	I've looked at those, but have always been hesitant
15:58	pankkake	;;ud gurl
15:58	gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gurl \| the way of spelling girl, favourd by girls below the age of 14 or dyslexics.
15:58	ozbot	Urban Dictionary: gurl
15:58	nubbins`	doge is maybe the best meme yet
15:58	nubbins`	just putting it out there
15:58	asciilifeform	27 inch proper 'Eizo'. 600 or so usd, ebay, new. perhaps it 'fell off truck'
15:59	mircea_popescu	nubbins` what is it ?
15:59	nubbins`	just a japanese dog with a lelly face usually accompanied by engrish nonsense in neon comic sans ms
15:59	asciilifeform	16:9 lcd is mostly worthless unless you turn it, though.
15:59	mircea_popescu	asciilifeform also amusingly, gherla is romania's largest, most infamous prison and also an informal way to say "prison" in general.
15:59	TomServo	Yeah, I'd prefer 16:10
16:00	asciilifeform	3:4.
16:00	nubbins`	http://0.tqn.com/d/humor/1/0/P/T/-/-/wow-such-math-ti-doge-meme1.jpg
16:00	dexX7	lol
16:00	sbp	mircea_popescu: Lindsay Lohan, by the looks
16:00	mircea_popescu	wow she was that young once huh.
16:01	nubbins`	http://0.tqn.com/d/humor/1/0/J/T/-/-/doge.jpg
16:01	nubbins`	^
16:01	nubbins`	etc
16:01	dexX7	awesome
16:02	mircea_popescu	lol
16:02	mircea_popescu	such azn.
16:02	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00087523 = 12.6033 BTC [-] {2}
16:02	sbp	nubbins`: DOGECOIN: http://cdn0.dailydot.com/uploaded/images/original/2013/12/10/LgdyCfv.png
16:02	asciilifeform	i'd love to buy an lcd, 2 M or so diagonal. but it would need to have at least the same pixel density as the eizo.
16:02	nubbins`	nod, that's what caused me to bring it up
16:02	nubbins`	:D
16:02	sbp	oh, heh
16:03	nubbins`	http://24.media.tumblr.com/96919db8f22694170e85609491008230/tumblr_mtt0bmFOTZ1qjetuoo1_500.jpg
16:03	nubbins`	http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/much+doge.+save+doge+at+http+www.funnyjunk.com+funnypictures+4779312+save+doge_d14d44_4778954.jpg
16:03	nubbins`	^ leel
16:04	nubbins`	much doge
16:05	wao-ender	oh dogecoin finally arrived here
16:05	nubbins`	http://i.imgur.com/TUajDcw.jpg
16:05	nubbins`	ahahahaha
16:05	asciilifeform	much more doge. http://i.imgur.com/M6GApQd.jpg
16:06	dexX7	:D
16:06	mircea_popescu	asciilifeform i was gonna do that lol. much better. such meme now.
16:06	mircea_popescu	wow.
16:06	asciilifeform	nubbins`: (unrelated) shirts are in. thanks!
16:06	nubbins`	ah, great! cheers
16:07	nubbins`	how'd the box hold up?
16:07	asciilifeform	dour old woman at post office: 'how the hell did you get this through customs without a name'
16:07	mircea_popescu	did you tell her "power of bitcoin, lady" ?
16:07	nubbins`	haha
16:07	nubbins`	i should probably start putting a full return address on these packages, too
16:08	mircea_popescu	http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlackBestFriend
16:08	ozbot	Main/Black Best Friend - Television Tropes & Idioms
16:08	nubbins`	altho to be fair you only need those 8 characters
16:08	asciilifeform	box came in entirely virginal.
16:08	mircea_popescu	tvtropes is such wow.
16:08	nubbins`	good news
16:09	nubbins`	http://webby.hazasite.com/r/SuperShibe/comments/1smg26/can_someone_explain_to_me_exactly_what_the_joke/
16:09	nubbins`	haha, first comment
16:09	nubbins`	"doge mystery" "no explain"
16:09	kakobrekla	dexX7 yeah i got 4 so far
16:09	kakobrekla	and prolly will add 1 more
16:10	dexX7	lol :D
16:10	kakobrekla	thats the max i can hook up
16:10	kakobrekla	well, without the external adapters anyway
16:10	asciilifeform	speaking of bizarre: from the text of a spam sample: 'purchase extreme intestinal activity station'.
16:10	dexX7	five should be enough, i guess?
16:11	mircea_popescu	since we're doing spam, Hi My name is Anastasia. I am from Russia. It may surprise you, enjoy
16:11	kakobrekla	no spam
16:12	mircea_popescu	hm. you think ?
16:12	kakobrekla	it says so right on the .. .eh.. nevermind
16:12	nubbins`	asciilifeform: so, an industrial sausage stuffer.
16:13	asciilifeform	since we're doing hardware minutiae: anyone know of a modern ECC mobo?
16:13	asciilifeform	i'd prefer not to live with my '07 Tyan for ever
16:15	nubbins`	mircea_popescu: best spam subject i've ever received is "Turn your peanut into a banana"
16:16	pankkake	spammers are extremely creative in avoiding the word penis now, it's amazing
16:16	assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!
16:16	asciilifeform	pankkake: '...come grasp the mighty phoenis of our Leader...'
16:17	asciilifeform	'btc! greatest blockchain in the wurld; all other blockchains are run by little gurls...'
16:18	mircea_popescu	actually, i would wager a guess that the disk space of btc blockchain > disk space of all other altcoins combined
16:19	asciilifeform	this is hardly surprising.
16:19	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5998 @ 0.00087892 = 5.2718 BTC [+]
16:20	asciilifeform	although i'd also be surprised if altcoin aficionados don't take to bloating their chains to 'look relevant'.
16:20	nubbins`	http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/3d-printer-by-sask-man-gets-record-crowdsourced-cash-1.2417416
16:20	ozbot	3D printer by Sask. man gets record crowdsourced cash - Saskatchewan - CBC News
16:20	nubbins`	wow
16:20	nubbins`	that's a crazy way to print
16:20	asciilifeform	not new
16:20	asciilifeform	that was actually the original '3d printer'
16:20	asciilifeform	in the '70s.
16:21	asciilifeform	it was even mentioned in soviet 'наука и жизнь' mag ('science & life', similar to 'scientific american')
16:21	nubbins`	oh ya?
16:22	mircea_popescu	asciilifeform well now that it was said, definitely.
16:22	mircea_popescu	before, not likely. these people are not inovators, after all.
16:22	mircea_popescu	so it's useful in retrospect.
16:23	asciilifeform	e.g. http://www.google.com/patents/US4575330
16:24	mircea_popescu	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY92AE1Aj-U
16:24	ozbot	Animaniacs Variety Speak 2 - YouTube
16:25	asciilifeform	actually the fellow in the link did make a useful twist
16:25	asciilifeform	moving the 'z' platform by draining a tank (a la ancient greek 'klepsydra' clock) instead of a stepper motor.
16:26	pankkake	if you exclude namecoin, and the datacoin aberration, probably
16:26	pankkake	oh well, namecoin is only 1.5G :o
16:28	asciilifeform	problem with stereolithography is that you need a foul-smelling, poisonous, and quite expensive liquid polymer.
16:28	mircea_popescu	har har pankkake :D
16:28	asciilifeform	and the resulting product is quite brittle.
16:28	mircea_popescu	and the datacoin thing was what, 50mb ?
16:28	nubbins`	these resins seem to remain flexible once cured
16:29	nubbins`	but yeah, consumables cost is probably through the roof
16:29	pankkake	it's still a thing, allows big things to be stored at once. still at this time it's probably nothing
16:29	asciilifeform	you can buy uv-cured 'rubber', yes.
16:29	pankkake	litecoin 2.2G
16:29	nubbins`	ah, $60 per liter
16:30	asciilifeform	i still don't get why '3d printer' is so fashionable.
16:30	nubbins`	interesting that it uses audio to transmit the information
16:30	nubbins`	asciilifeform: it's the ultimate novelty.
16:30	pankkake	for people who don't know how to build things
16:30	pankkake	(like me :p)
16:30	asciilifeform	i mean, i get the usefulness of wangling together mechanical prototypes without the dust of machining, etc.
16:30	asciilifeform	but why the mass hysteria
16:31	ThickAsThieves	;;estimate
16:31	gribble	Next difficulty estimate \| 1047921554.97 based on data since last change \| 894132728.373 based on data for last three days
16:31	nubbins`	asciilifeform: for most of the public, it's a solution in search of a problem
16:31	nubbins`	but if you've got a need for rapid prototyping, these things are worth their weight in gold
16:31	pankkake	well I'm sure it would make buying some products obsolete
16:31	nubbins`	i don't doubt that most of the 3d printers in people's homes were used to make a couple sets of chess pieces and now sit idle
16:31	pankkake	is it safe for sex toys? I fear it isn't, but that would be a great use
16:32	nubbins`	generally sex toys aren't made from hard plastic
16:32	asciilifeform	extrusion printer usually gives a rough surface
16:32	nubbins`	replacement battery covers for sex toys, sure
16:32	asciilifeform	but one can sand it smooth, or coat it in something
16:32	nubbins`	stomb boxes for guitar fx pedals
16:33	pankkake	anything porous is a bad idea
16:33	nubbins`	*stomp
16:33	nubbins`	yeah, 3d printed sex toy would actually be a bacteria factory
16:33	benkay	if you pour metals 3d printers are the bomb for casting
16:33	pankkake	it's a great solution for replacement parts in general yeah
16:33	nubbins`	benkay, good point
16:33	asciilifeform	dip it in 'plasti-dip'
16:33	nubbins`	hm
16:33	nubbins`	re:plasti-dip
16:34	nubbins`	i've seen lots of tools made with 3d printers
16:34	benkay	your metals just burn the plastic out of the casting
16:34	nubbins`	hemostats, pliers, tweezers, screwdriver grips, etc
16:34	benkay	obviously takes some tweaking, but totally feasible.
16:34	benkay	and the impossible-to-machine rib-holding-together-hardware, nubbins`
16:34	asciilifeform	benkay: two-step mold process. positive shape, wedge into clay for negative mold, bake, cast metal.
16:35	benkay	but man the ludicrous shit those poor companies struggling under the fda have to deal with
16:35	benkay	asciilifeform: yes, that is a casting process.
16:35	nubbins`	asciilifeform: i think benkay is thinking similar to a lost wax process
16:35	benkay	^^
16:35	asciilifeform	i've thought about ways to electrolytically replace a (conductive) plastic with metal.
16:36	asciilifeform	but life is short.
16:36	nubbins`	sadly, not enough time to learn it all
16:36	benkay	i start over on a new domain every four years, i think.
16:36	asciilifeform	(for those who have no truck with 3d printing or the like, this isn't something which afaik exists.)
16:37	benkay	just enough time to become baseline competent but not anywhere near good.
16:37	asciilifeform	(currently there is only metal sintering, under noble gas. $0.5M.)
16:37	nubbins`	well there's short-term things and long-term things
16:37	nubbins`	coffee roasting was a short-term
16:38	nubbins`	printing is a long-term
16:38	nubbins`	you can generally tell by how much space you're willing to let something take up in your house
16:38	asciilifeform	the funniest part of the 3d printing in the popular media is the 'plastic gun.'
16:38	benkay	preach about the plastic gun, asciilifeform
16:38	nubbins`	asciilifeform: not a fucking chance would i put gunpowder inside anything i printed myself
16:38	asciilifeform	not that such a thing is impossible: medieval Korea had: leather cannon!
16:39	benkay	the gutters are full of humans eager to test the 20 dollar disposable firearm.
16:39	asciilifeform	wonder if anybody's fed Plastique into a 3d extruder.
16:40	nubbins`	haha
16:40	truffles	ban 3d printers
16:40	asciilifeform	'there are many 3d printed doorknobs, but this one - is special!'
16:40	mircea_popescu	the problems only begin there. firearms are mostly an obsolete technology.
16:40	benkay	how so obsolete?
16:40	mircea_popescu	you can get armor good enough to render any handheld firearm useless.
16:40	truffles	boom headshot
16:40	nubbins`	but does it fit over your face?
16:40	nubbins`	^^
16:40	mircea_popescu	notice that the serious bank robbers etc use very heavy assault weapons
16:41	asciilifeform	armor is a tricky business
16:41	mircea_popescu	and that only worked up to about 2005 or so
16:41	benkay	can you armor the entire ghetto block squad?
16:41	asciilifeform	the people to whom the question applies have a rather lukewarm enthusiasm for it.
16:41	nubbins`	ah, i always figured the assault weapons were more for show
16:41	nubbins`	"these guys must be REALLY serious!"
16:41	mircea_popescu	asciilifeform see North Hollywood shootout etc. not that tricky.
16:41	mircea_popescu	a solved problem for > a decade by now
16:41	deadweasel	that was a great one
16:41	asciilifeform	state-of-the-art ceramic plate is rated for: 1 ak round.
16:41	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.145 = 0.58 BTC [+]
16:41	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10921 @ 0.00088531 = 9.6685 BTC [+]
16:41	asciilifeform	heavy, sweaty.
16:42	mircea_popescu	going on two decades.
16:42	truffles	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejD1Gml-ZGc this?
16:42	ozbot	North Hollywood Shootout - YouTube
16:43	asciilifeform	american grunts are issued 'kevlar', but tend to throw it out. and they, oddly, won't sleep in it.
16:43	asciilifeform	not to mention other fine point: armor sets you up for blunt trauma.
16:43	asciilifeform	the kinetic energy still has to go somewhere...
16:43	mircea_popescu	asciilifeform the reference was aramid. it withstood > 1k rounds from .38 and 9mm, as well as single action pump shotguns
16:43	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02350002 = 0.235 BTC [+] {2}
16:44	asciilifeform	this is entirely plausible
16:44	asciilifeform	soft lead.
16:45	asciilifeform	but try finding a vendor willing to stand in it for target practice, for ten rounds much less a thousand.
16:45	asciilifeform	broken ribs.
16:45	asciilifeform	nobody cancelled newton's laws...
16:45	truffles	"patrol officers at the time were typically armed with a 9mm or .40 caliber pistol on their person, with a 12-gauge shotgun available in their cars. Phillips and Matasareanu carried fully automatic rifles and wore body armor. Since most handgun calibers cannot penetrate body armor, patrol officers had a significant disadvantage until SWAT arrived with equivalent firepower; they also
16:45	truffles	appropriated several semi-automatic rifles from a nearby firearms dealer to help even the odds. "
16:46	mircea_popescu	yes well, the story is this : two robbers with body armor did more damage to the city policeman pension and health insurance funds than would have been the case if they just let them keep the stolen money.
16:46	truffles	seems like its solved all round
16:46	mircea_popescu	even if you maange to print a gun, you will print a useless gun.
16:46	mircea_popescu	you need something very powerful to be able to do anything with it.
16:46	benkay	that's not the use case though. the use case is shitty guns for poor people in the decaying soviet states of america
16:47	mircea_popescu	benkay amusingly, amlar is easier to print than a gun.
16:47	asciilifeform	benkay: hardware store (or junkyard.) steel pipe.
16:47	asciilifeform	see harlan ellison's memoir of his '50s childhood
16:47	deadweasel	boomstick
16:47	asciilifeform	or virtually any work on prison weapons
16:47	benkay	amlar?
16:48	mircea_popescu	benkay aromatic polyamide. like kevlar, but with aroma.
16:48	the20year	Pretty easy to make a firearm out of supplies from tesco
16:49	asciilifeform	wait till people remember that kevlar (and other fiber armour) is useless against: arrows.
16:49	benkay	dahaha
16:49	the20year	asciilifeform: most current plates use ceramic which disperses the kenetic energy over a wide area, avoiding blunt tramua. Small arms fire has an amazingly low amount of kenetic energy compared to common measurements
16:49	assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!
16:50	the20year	asciilifeform: depends on which kind of kevlar vest you're talking about
16:50	mircea_popescu	also, it's easier to protect the head than the body.
16:50	mircea_popescu	bulletproof transparent rigid plastic was available before flexible stuff was.
16:50	mircea_popescu	the20year in fact, the kinetic energy of the bullet is roughly equal to the kinetic energy of the recoil.
16:51	asciilifeform	take simple example. ordinary ak round, ~2kJ (muzzle)
16:51	mircea_popescu	consequently, there's a limit to how heavy a round can be fired from the hand
16:51	asciilifeform	let's say 1kJ on impact, for the sake of argument.
16:51	mircea_popescu	and the thing is, armor has surpassed this minimum. handheld firearms are not particularly useful these days
16:51	mircea_popescu	(which is the REAL reason for the move towards tasers, not the feigned desire to avoid casualties)
16:51	asciilifeform	1kJ applied to a head with impenetrable armor -> neck trauma
16:51	asciilifeform	unless you're willing to wear the equivalent of a 19th century diving suit
16:52	deadweasel	^
16:52	benkay	all this fighting talk is causing thoughts of chumpatrons based on armor and weapons
16:52	asciilifeform	the phuture, if one insists, is in the self-aiming rifle.
16:52	mircea_popescu	asciilifeform depends a lot on the angle.
16:52	asciilifeform	like those pocket cameras that highlight faces.
16:52	mircea_popescu	people regularly take kj's to the head in most sports.
16:53	deadweasel	i think we should test these theories. somebody get me some armor, I'll youtube the experiments per your instructions. Only have 9mm and .40 for testing
16:53	deadweasel	i'm not sure if I'm joking
16:53	deadweasel	only one way to find out
16:53	mircea_popescu	deadweasel you can always use a dummy
16:53	mircea_popescu	like the car crash dummies
16:53	deadweasel	boring
16:53	mircea_popescu	not that this hasn't been done.
16:53	deadweasel	so boring
16:53	asciilifeform	phun phact: archduke ferdinand is said to have worn an early bulletproof vest.
16:53	asciilifeform	at the time of his death.
16:53	deadweasel	watching body armor video tests can be mesmerizing
16:53	asciilifeform	headshot
16:53	deadweasel	lol
16:54	the20year	You could do what the military and FBI does....
16:54	the20year	But who cares about pre-existing data? Everyone has to discover for themselves ,right?
16:54	truffles	hide?
16:54	mircea_popescu	<the20year> But who cares about pre-existing data? Everyone has to discover for themselves ,right? <<< qft.
16:54	deadweasel	qft? quite fucking true?
16:54	mircea_popescu	quoted for truth
16:54	truffles	quoted for
16:55	mircea_popescu	asciilifeform wasn't he killed by a bomb ?
16:55	deadweasel	ic
16:55	the20year	No, he was shot close range with a little pistol
16:55	deadweasel	i'm puncy as hell today, somebody shoot me already
16:55	asciilifeform	neck.
16:55	mircea_popescu	o it was the russian guy that was bombed.
16:55	asciilifeform	legend has it that submarine architects were once made to take a trip to max depth before the machine would be paid for.
16:56	asciilifeform	no reason why this shouldn't apply to armour makers.
16:56	the20year	don't you look at armor tests?
16:56	the20year	Some armor makers do put their armor on and get shot, i wouldn't due it due to spall, but some believe that much in their product
16:57	asciilifeform	arms vs. armour is a classic race that the latter tends to lose. witness 'reactive armour' on tank.
16:57	asciilifeform	the pill against it: round with two warheads.
16:57	the20year	It's usually a endless cycle of bigger armor being beaten by a bigger gun , IE ww2 f or instance
16:57	asciilifeform	or simple good aim (hit same spot twice.0
16:57	mircea_popescu	"while Mătăsăreanu's chest armor even successfully withstood a hit from a SWAT operator's AR-15"
16:57	mircea_popescu	no, srsly.
16:57	asciilifeform	it will be interesting to see reactive armor built for a man
16:57	asciilifeform	rather than tank
16:57	the20year	Most rifles won't make it through AR500 steel plate
16:58	the20year	It's stupidly easy to make body armor that will withstand most conventional rifle ammo, granted it's quite heavy
16:58	asciilifeform	the20year: ask a soldier how much he'd like to wear plate mail.
16:58	the20year	Why the heck would anyone want reactive armor on their body? The concussion would kill you when it activated
16:58	the20year	Well, most wear ceramic armor that's stronger than AR500, so many do
16:58	the20year	I know my brother in law did, when he was in iraq
16:59	asciilifeform	there are men strong enough to run about, climb, etc. in plate mail, yes.
16:59	mircea_popescu	asciilifeform let me find you that quote re armor.
16:59	the20year	The average soldier carries about 100lbs of gear into battle, so 20lb of armor isn't a big deal. thus why the US military is testing powered armor
17:00	truffles	theyve got drones now
17:00	asciilifeform	i attended an interesting talk once by a concussion expert
17:00	the20year	And still want boots on the ground, so....
17:00	the20year	Drones can always be defeated
17:00	truffles	they look intimidating
17:00	truffles	the massive ones with legs
17:00	the20year	Oh well
17:00	mircea_popescu	From the foundation of the city till the reign of the Emperor Gratian, the foot wore cuirasses and helmets. But negligence and sloth having by degrees introduced a total relaxation of discipline, the soldiers began to think their armor too heavy, as they seldom put it on. They first requested leave from the Emperor to lay aside the cuirass and afterwards the helmet. In consequence of this, our troops in their engagemen
17:00	mircea_popescu	ts with the Goths were often overwhelmed with their showers of arrows. Nor was the necessity of obliging the infantry to resume their cuirasses and helmets discovered, notwithstanding such repeated defeats, which brought on the destruction of so many great cities. Troops, defenseless and exposed to all the weapons of the enemy, are more disposed to fly than fight. What can be expected from a foot-archer without cuirass
17:00	mircea_popescu	or helmet, who cannot hold at once his bow and shield; or from the ensigns whose bodies are naked, and who cannot at the same time carry a shield and the colors? The foot soldier finds the weight of a cuirass and even of a helmet intolerable. This is because he is so seldom exercised and rarely puts them on.
17:00	asciilifeform	he had a computer model which explained why certain - helmeted - men ended up with brain damage, while grunts in the same vehicle, sans helmet, didn't.
17:01	asciilifeform	the helmet focused the shock wave.
17:02	asciilifeform	not that armour is worthless - simply that reality is a complicated place.
17:02	truffles	or we're not that advance yet
17:02	mircea_popescu	reality may be a complicated place, but the tactical utility of printed guns is still purely imaginary.
17:02	the20year	correct
17:03	mircea_popescu	even if you get them to shoot safely, you're far far away from them shooting energetically enough to count
17:03	the20year	The real use for 3d printed guns (in the US at least) is to make ones that utilize the homebuilding law so they're not on paperwork
17:03	asciilifeform	printed crossbow could conceivably be of some use.
17:03	the20year	Why is printing important?
17:03	mircea_popescu	it's much easier to make a crossvbow than to print one
17:03	benkay	i am more convinced than i was an hour ago on the printable guns thing
17:03	the20year	tabletop CnC is cheap and you can make just about any firearm you want with one
17:03	asciilifeform	some people seems to fetishize the process of 'push a button without thinking'
17:03	mircea_popescu	i could make you one within the hour, and teach you to make one in a day
17:03	the20year	and lathes and milling machines have existed for 100 years
17:04	asciilifeform	which is why 3d printer is a mass topic at all
17:04	mircea_popescu	asciilifeform ya well those people also have nil tactical utility-value.
17:04	the20year	Think about it , the first belt fed machine gun was made in the late 1800s, do you think that the technology to make it has magically disappeared?
17:04	asciilifeform	in afghanistan, in africa, blacksmiths build perfectly good ak clones with hand tools.
17:04	asciilifeform	not rocket surgery here.
17:05	the20year	COrrect
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17:05	asciilifeform	modern ammunition, on the other hand, requires industry.
17:05	the20year	How so
17:05	mircea_popescu	you can mix your own powder and make your own bullets just fine
17:06	asciilifeform	certainly, for a musket.
17:06	mircea_popescu	just reuse the casings :D
17:06	mircea_popescu	they did it in fallout!
17:06	the20year	Brass casings are reusable, gunpowder can be made cheaply/effectiely from easy to procure chemcicals , the bullet is the easiest part itself to mak
17:06	the20year	*make
17:06	benkay	yes but xbows
17:06	benkay	i am a convince.
17:06	mircea_popescu	the20year he has a point tho, in the sense of brass casingsd are reusable for a finite number of shots.
17:06	asciilifeform	primers are tricky
17:06	the20year	Plus i'm not aware of any country that has made brass cases illegal
17:06	the20year	Not exactly
17:07	the20year	Casings can last over 50 times if you download the ammo, which you will be doing anyway with homemade powder
17:07	mircea_popescu	over 50 times is finite.
17:07	the20year	Primers are easy to make, the chemical composition is 150 years old
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17:07	the20year	Well, if you want infinite, then just make your own cases
17:07	asciilifeform	if you're in a real bind, you might want to go with liquid propellant and electrical priming.
17:07	mircea_popescu	which requires some industry. is all i was saying.
17:07	the20year	Why? conventional powder and primer compound is cheap and effective
17:07	the20year	If by industry you mean a guy with a set of presses and punches, sure
17:08	asciilifeform	cheap is a tricky concept. a plastic fork is cheap, until it isn't, and is entirely unobtainable
17:08	the20year	But remember, during WW2 most ammo in the USSR was being made by giving children the tools to do it
17:08	asciilifeform	if you have to make it with your own hands
17:08	the20year	asciilifeform: $50 will get you enough priming compound to load 10,000 rounds of ammunition
17:08	asciilifeform	today. in a civilized place.
17:08	mircea_popescu	ha, since i was going through old tomes, look what a gem i found :
17:08	mircea_popescu	"Although these men differ in customs and language from those with whom they have taken refuge, and are unaccustomed too, if I may say so, to the nauseous odor of the bodies and clothing of the barbarians, yet they prefer the strange life they find there to the injustice rife among the Romans."
17:09	mircea_popescu	" So you find men passing over everywhere, now to the Goths, now to the Bagaudae, or whatever other barbarians have established their power anywhere ... We call those men rebels and utterly abandoned, whom we ourselves have forced into crime. For by what other causes were they made Bagaudae save by our unjust acts, the wicked decisions of the magistrates, the proscription and extortion of those who have turned the publ
17:09	mircea_popescu	ic exactions to the increase of their private fortunes and made the tax indictions their opportunity for plunder?"
17:09	the20year	If this is all theoretical then, just stock up on ammo if you live in the US , or reloading components
17:09	asciilifeform	the20year: this is a tremendously-popular hobby here.
17:10	the20year	what hobby? WHere is here?
17:10	asciilifeform	u.s.
17:10	the20year	Easy to buy ammo and stock up in the US
17:10	the20year	There's absolutely no reason in worrying about all this theoretical stuff, just buy cheap and stack deep if you live here
17:11	asciilifeform	the original discussion was, i think, about what could in principle be made with one's own hands, out of commonly-available raw materials
17:11	the20year	Then your answer is - Submachine guns
17:12	the20year	If you want to go the firearms route
17:12	asciilifeform	the gun is the easy part
17:12	asciilifeform	that was the point
17:12	the20year	Ammo isn't too bad if you want to set up the process ,or just make a muzzleloader
17:12	asciilifeform	muzzle-loading submachine gun?
17:12	the20year	just a muzzleloader
17:14	asciilifeform	point remains, that the military significance of 3d printer is small, while that of the hand file and forge, remains great.
17:15	the20year	Correct
17:15	the20year	The Sten and PPS-43 were both primarily made by children during ww2, and they are still being used around the world today
17:15	the20year	Both at a cost of just a few dollar (equivilent) at the time
17:16	asciilifeform	right. 'open bolt' schema is easy to manufacture, and for that (among other reasons) is forbidden in the u.s.
17:16	the20year	Up until 1980 :D
17:17	the20year	Technically, if you can find a open-bolt gun that was made prior to 1980 it's still legal
17:17	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 30 @ 0.02419965 = 0.726 BTC [+] {3}
17:17	asciilifeform	i recall reading that they're bought and sold rather like famous paintings.
17:17	asciilifeform	with traceable pedigree, etc.
17:18	the20year	It's easy to find and date them based on serial numbers, sales price is quite high though, around $2,000 for a tec-9 or 22 that sold for say $150 prior to 1980
17:18	asciilifeform	interesting
17:19	the20year	Same with guns manufactured prior to 1898 that aren't considered firearms anymore
17:19	the20year	Even though they might take modern cartridges
17:19	asciilifeform	how did it come about that they aren't considered arms?
17:19	the20year	That's just hte cutoff date
17:19	the20year	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antique_gun
17:19	ozbot	Antique gun - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
17:20	the20year	I have a 1895 mauser that's an antique....is an absolutely awesome rifle
17:21	asciilifeform	this legal oddity rings a bell. i once wandered into an antique shop near wash. dc, and they had an Ottoman musket for sale. no paperwork, etc.
17:21	the20year	Anything prior to 1899 is legal , granted some states have other rules. Sadly the maxim and potato digger aren't covered
17:21	asciilifeform	potato digger?
17:21	the20year	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1895_Colt-Browning_machine_gun
17:21	ozbot	M1895 Colt-Browning machine gun - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
17:21	the20year	First US made machine gun
17:22	truffles	imagine if they had those back in the day
17:22	truffles	line up and spray
17:22	the20year	in what day?
17:22	the20year	They were used from the late 1800s through ww2
17:22	truffles	1800s ?
17:22	the20year	Maxim is still being used today
17:22	truffles	ok 1600s
17:23	the20year	Well, in the 1700s you had the giardoni air rifle which was a rapid fire gun
17:23	asciilifeform	the one where the air bottle sometimes burst?
17:23	the20year	Yeah
17:23	asciilifeform	famous 'before their time' techno masterpiece...
17:23	the20year	Granted if you want to see what happens when you use line warfar against machine guns, just take a look at ww1
17:25	the20year	would have been no different than 1800s, 1700s, 1600s - massed infantry in static lines trying to take positions held by machine guns
17:26	asciilifeform	technologically-mismatched battles are a curious fetish among some people
17:26	asciilifeform	maxim against cavalry, 'drone' against rusty truck in afghanistan...
17:26	the20year	Sure, but if you're curious what happens, there's plenty of information out there on when it does ocurr
17:27	asciilifeform	maxim vs. zulu, perhaps most famously
17:27	the20year	Or italian cavalry in ww2 attacking soviet positions, a bayonette charge in iraq in 2004, the last usage of a sword in combat in vietnam , ect
17:27	asciilifeform	there are persistent rumours of a Polish ww2 lance charge against a tank column.
17:27	the20year	Rourkes drift comes pretty close to that
17:28	asciilifeform	for further anachronism value: chariots (albeit with maxim) saw plentiful action in the russian civil war.
17:30	mircea_popescu	a trained man with a sword is a better asset in close quarters than dudes with guns
17:31	the20year	Yeah
17:31	mircea_popescu	course that training is prohibitively expensive
17:31	the20year	Thus why police have the 21ft rule
17:31	asciilifeform	"an officer without a sword is improperly dressed"
17:31	mircea_popescu	so it's not really practical, from a strategic perspective. nevertheless...
17:31	asciilifeform	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Churchill
17:31	ozbot	Jack Churchill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
17:31	the20year	soldiers still carry bayonettes
17:31	mircea_popescu	the20year and don't know how to use them
17:32	the20year	Tell that to the scotts
17:32	mircea_popescu	i just meant generally.
17:33	the20year	I don't know , when i talked to a guy in 2003-4 about his time in Iraq, he seemed to indicate his unit trained with them. I do believe the marines still train
17:34	mircea_popescu	people all over the us train in reading and writing.
17:34	mircea_popescu	so what of it ?
17:34	nubbins`	^ leel
17:34	nubbins`	point of the day
17:34	the20year	Eh, i'd bet money there are plenty that still could use them effectively
17:35	mircea_popescu	no argument there.
17:35	mircea_popescu	an army however is about the weakest not the strongest link
17:35	asciilifeform	if i recall, bayonet is the original 'MAD' weapon
17:35	mircea_popescu	(which is why the us army has been evolving towards smaller and smaller units as the quality of recruits sunk)
17:35	asciilifeform	in that most bayonet charges did not end with a mass perforation, but with one side fleeing
17:35	the20year	Yeah, that's been the US tradition for a while though
17:35	the20year	except in vietnam with the US army
17:39	mircea_popescu	so in the most recent rng tests for the cardano we now see Entropy = 7.999926 bits per byte.
17:39	mircea_popescu	Monte Carlo value for Pi is 3.141602161 ; Serial correlation coefficient is 0.000435
17:40	Apocalyptic	that's brutally great
17:40	mircea_popescu	i daresay this is the best 2,5mb random sample i ever did see
17:40	nubbins`	awesome
17:40	mircea_popescu	it's definitely up there.
17:40	pankkake	too good to be true, scam
17:41	nubbins`	are the final dimensions known?
17:41	mircea_popescu	for the benefit of "i can write a website too!" crowd : this is the result of removing about 14 different bias sources
17:41	asciilifeform	2 x 3 inch.
17:41	mircea_popescu	which "weren't there" when we begun taking them out
17:41	nubbins`	ah, smaller than a business card
17:41	nubbins`	height?
17:41	asciilifeform	~1 tall
17:42	nubbins`	aha
17:42	nubbins`	that's nice
17:42	asciilifeform	runs on a CR2450
17:42	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 38 @ 0.02269999 = 0.8626 BTC [+] {3}
17:43	nubbins`	ah nice
17:43	nubbins`	those are less than a buck each in quantity
17:43	asciilifeform	correct.
17:43	nubbins`	micro-usb in?
17:44	asciilifeform	yes.
17:51	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 625 @ 0.00290035 = 1.8127 BTC [-] {7}
18:01	Vexual	g'day gents
18:02	truffles	hello mate
18:03	Vexual	howzit?
18:03	truffles	alrighty mate, just sips of tea
18:03	truffles	u?
18:03	Vexual	lovely jubly
18:05	Vexual	foundation says no more 9.9k free tx
18:06	asciilifeform	didn't 'foundation' also say 'no more tx except from u.s. gov. approved addrs' ?
18:06	asciilifeform	or was that a dream
18:07	Vexual	yes, perhaps 10k wont print to a4 at the requisite font size
18:08	mircea_popescu	lol
18:08	pankkake	http://www.pidjin.net/2013/12/09/bitcoined/
18:08	ozbot	Bitcoined « Fredo and Pidjin. The Webcomic.
18:09	mircea_popescu	lol romanians heard of bitcoin nao ?
18:09	mircea_popescu	this is the end days.
18:09	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12788 @ 0.00089389 = 11.4311 BTC [+] {3}
18:09	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.14699999 = 0.441 BTC [+] {2}
18:09	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC
18:09	Apocalyptic	heh
18:10	asciilifeform	http://www.pidjin.net/2013/11/07/famous-last-words/
18:10	ozbot	Famous last words « Fredo and Pidjin. The Webcomic.
18:11	Vexual	;see...
18:13	asciilifeform	http://www.pidjin.net/2013/09/26/clean-job/
18:13	ozbot	Clean job « Fredo and Pidjin. The Webcomic.
18:14	Vexual	standardize, protect, and promote
18:15	Vexual	different departments?
18:19	Vexual	Although Bitcoin is not anonymous by default, Bitcoin addresses were not a factor in solving the case. <from the protect dept
18:20	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.30475792 = 0.9143 BTC [-]
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18:40	Vexual	While official federal policy as developed in the agencies ... ...
18:40	Vexual	our membership does
18:40	Vexual	not rely on cable television for its information
18:40	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00089302 = 4.1079 BTC [-] {2}
18:40	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.09003333 = 0.2701 BTC [-] {2}
18:43	dub	http://i.imgur.com/uxLSYen.jpg
18:44	pankkake	♥
18:49	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2920602 BTC [-]
18:49	kanzure	since second market already bought 68,000 btc, why does everyone keep thinking they will see activity on mtgox etc?
18:49	Diablo-D3	+ticker
18:49	Diablo-D3	er
18:49	Diablo-D3	;;ticker
18:49	gribble	Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
18:49	Diablo-D3	eat a dfick
18:50	truffles	Diablo-D3 ive been looking at this domestic man paleo site
18:50	truffles	so much yum
18:51	Diablo-D3	truffles: url?
18:52	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 271 @ 0.00290011 = 0.7859 BTC [-] {2}
18:52	truffles	http://thedomesticman.com/2013/01/15/shirred-eggs-with-sausage-and-spinach/ site linked from food chan
18:52	ozbot	Shirred Eggs with Sausage and Spinach \| The Domestic Man
18:52	Diablo-D3	you should look at http://nomnompaleo.com/ and http://paleoporn.net/ too
18:53	Diablo-D3	truffles: oh dear god
18:53	Diablo-D3	that looks delicious
18:53	truffles	i know
18:53	truffles	im thinking of what to use instead of those
18:53	truffles	or in combo's
18:54	Vexual	my quiche has too much crust :(
18:54	Vexual	caveman my arse
18:54	truffles	thinly sliced chicken maybe
18:56	truffles	did u know that watermelon rinds could be pickled!
18:56	jurov	SPAM is not Paleo lol
18:58	sbp	yeah, everybody knows SPAM is Viking
18:58	Vexual	can on
18:58	Vexual	crunchy
18:58	truffles	im just looking at easy to make stuff that isnt too fatty, not really into paleo
18:59	pankkake	too fattening you mean?
18:59	truffles	ya
18:59	truffles	gotta prepare for the xmas gain
18:59	pankkake	paleo is all about loving the good fat :)
19:01	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1688 @ 0.00008902 = 0.1503 BTC [-]
19:02	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 52 @ 0.00275 = 0.143 BTC [+] {2}
19:02	Diablo-D3	[06:56:10] <jurov> SPAM is not Paleo lol
19:02	Diablo-D3	theres no spam in that
19:03	pankkake	he meant the canned food. I guess
19:04	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.292101 = 0.8763 BTC [+]
19:04	jurov	http://www.flickr.com/photos/fuxoft/6806801300/in/set-1496129 some paleo stuff
19:04	mircea_popescu	can you pickle fat ?
19:04	ozbot	Penis licker \| Flickr - Photo Sharing
19:04	mircea_popescu	melon rinds, fattie rinds, all the same.
19:05	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.29204749 = 4.6728 BTC [-] {5}
19:05	truffles	spring rolls!
19:06	deadweasel	two roasted chickens
19:06	truffles	one isnt enough eh
19:06	deadweasel	eating alone?
19:06	deadweasel	go find a hobo
19:06	deadweasel	feed him chicken
19:07	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29203 BTC [-]
19:07	truffles	i try not to make solo "meals"
19:08	deadweasel	so what are you gonna make?
19:08	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 689 @ 0.0028798 = 1.9842 BTC [-] {8}
19:08	deadweasel	don't leave me hangin' bro
19:08	truffles	cant make the stuff there, dont have ingredients, but i do plan on making meat ball stew/soup
19:09	deadweasel	nom.
19:10	truffles	yea hopefully i dont have to eat it all!
19:10	deadweasel	it's a problem.. i ate 3/4 of a casserole last night. good luck, i haven't figured that one out.
19:11	truffles	ur gf is picky eater?
19:11	deadweasel	wat?
19:12	truffles	u said u got a "new" gf 2 days ago or so
19:12	deadweasel	so far she has eaten everything I've fed her.
19:12	deadweasel	no pun intended.
19:12	truffles	haha
19:12	mircea_popescu	no punis intended ?
19:13	deadweasel	no, penis tended.
19:13	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17739 @ 0.00088976 = 15.7835 BTC [-] {2}
19:13	benkay	penis tendered!
19:13	deadweasel	slightly tenderized.
19:14	deadweasel	her your receipt, mam
19:14	deadweasel	here*
19:14	benkay	hold up i gotta tender some cock
19:14	mircea_popescu	turgid ball soup
19:14	deadweasel	lol
19:14	mircea_popescu	sounds like an azn eatery.
19:14	deadweasel	it's probably tasty.
19:15	truffles	a man should eat what is presented to him though
19:15	truffles	good for her not being picky
19:15	deadweasel	let us know truf
19:15	deadweasel	i ate all stuff too, no worries there. :)
19:15	deadweasel	her*
19:15	deadweasel	words not making to kb
19:15	deadweasel	wtf
19:15	truffles	ure not talking about food anymore im guessing
19:16	deadweasel	no, she bought brunch
19:16	deadweasel	go eat your turgid balls and bring pics
19:17	truffles	thats for tomorrow
19:17	truffles	i could do something different
19:17	truffles	http://thedomesticman.com/2011/04/04/chicken-cordon-bleu/#more-1069 looks yum
19:17	ozbot	Chicken Cordon Bleu \| The Domestic Man
19:20	nubbins`	http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:157844
19:21	ozbot	P6*6 120 Pinhole Camera by schlem - Thingiverse
19:33	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 64 @ 0.00250001 = 0.16 BTC [-]
19:33	mircea_popescu	kakobrekla http://bitbet.us/bet/519/btc-network-difficulty-to-top-1b-before-2014/#c2048
19:34	mircea_popescu	this is how you know you're top dog, noobs come to abuse your open comments to spamvertise their shit.
19:36	pankkake	"This is Bitcoin, which is worse than life."
19:36	kakobrekla	yeah, you can end life. you cant end bitcoin.
19:38	pankkake	;;estimate
19:38	gribble	Next difficulty estimate \| 1027632809.34 based on data since last change \| 894132728.373 based on data for last three days
19:38	pankkake	I so want it to be No
19:38	mircea_popescu	it was 1050 last iirc
19:38	mircea_popescu	flagging a little. this is gonna be a nailbiter
19:39	kakobrekla	also mp, captcha not hard enough
19:39	thestringpuller	yea why is the captcha always the same
19:39	kakobrekla	because you only need to prove you are smart once
19:40	deadweasel	Anonymous 07-12-13 at 15:36
19:40	deadweasel	If more kids starved in america there would be no snackmans
19:40	deadweasel	ok, who was that?
19:40	kakobrekla	prolly anon
19:40	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2920001 BTC [-]
19:40	deadweasel	noway
19:41	mircea_popescu	kakobrekla> because you only need to prove you are smart once << win
19:41	pankkake	that's very true, the first time I saw that captcha I think I was too lazy and closed the tab
19:41	mircea_popescu	captcha should probably be "name the last woman that gave you a fair lay"
19:41	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 28 @ 0.29082144 = 8.143 BTC [-] {7}
19:42	truffles	none
19:42	deadweasel	haha
19:42	mircea_popescu	if someone named their daughter None
19:42	mircea_popescu	and then she grew up to have no tits...
19:42	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.29 = 2.61 BTC [-]
19:42	dexX7	^ simple minded psychopath
19:43	mircea_popescu	ono
19:43	truffles	boob job ftw
19:43	mircea_popescu	:(
19:43	Vexual	you're supposed to laugh
19:43	mircea_popescu	i can't.
19:43	deadweasel	truf gotthe extra boobs?
19:43	Vexual	didn't you get the memo?
19:43	kakobrekla	dexX7, its complex minded psycopath
19:43	mircea_popescu	psychosith
19:43	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.28701303 = 4.8792 BTC [-] {7}
19:43	kakobrekla	w/e
19:43	dexX7	hehe
19:44	truffles	boob jobs are waste, id tell my girl no
19:44	pankkake	is it better to have more boobs, or bigger boobs?
19:44	deadweasel	agreed
19:44	jurov	better psychopath than slanderous soul, i spose
19:44	kakobrekla	up to 4 you are better with more
19:44	kakobrekla	then bigger counts
19:44	kakobrekla	same as with cores
19:44	mircea_popescu	hahahah
19:45	Vexual	flee
19:45	assbot	Last 9 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1500958/plain/)
19:45	pankkake	!b 9
19:45	mircea_popescu	i believe 36 is a sufficient number of captcha.
19:45	kakobrekla	jurov its not like one has a choise
19:45	pankkake	!b should accept an offset arg
19:46	kakobrekla	just make a comment before like this: first 10
19:46	assbot	Last 20 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1500959/plain/)
19:46	kakobrekla	!b 20
19:46	jurov	no it should autobash triggered on boobs
19:46	mircea_popescu	!b should actually increase one's boobs.
19:46	truffles	more than handful is too much pankkake
19:46	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.05 = 0.55 BTC
19:47	pankkake	tried to use !b cause I don't think web submit works
19:47	mircea_popescu	waht ?!
19:47	pankkake	or I only submit unfunny stuff :cry:
19:47	mircea_popescu	i used web submit a coupla times
19:47	mircea_popescu	did it go to bitbucket ?!
19:47	kakobrekla	web submit should work
19:48	kakobrekla	why not
19:48	kakobrekla	lets test
19:48	kakobrekla	works
19:48	pankkake	so the "havelock has become the slut of exchanges" was deemed not funny?
19:48	pankkake	(it's the only one I have in my form history)
19:49	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 410 @ 0.0029679 = 1.2168 BTC [+] {13}
19:50	kakobrekla	i see theres about 10 pending ones
19:50	kakobrekla	and one matches 'slut'
19:50	kakobrekla	ill get to it soon
19:50	kakobrekla	very fuckin busy
19:50	pankkake	oh, ok
19:50	mircea_popescu	kakobrekla you should hire a sloven girl to do the moderation there
19:50	mircea_popescu	and your forum pr-ing
19:50	kakobrekla	if someone wants to help mod this , be my guest
19:50	Vexual	thats what my sommilier said,
19:51	mircea_popescu	it's sommelier
19:51	nubbins`	"put a cork in it"?
19:51	Vexual	he said that too
19:52	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 49 @ 0.05 = 2.45 BTC
19:53	Vexual	i said if you dont want two eyes, keep serving me last
19:53	kakobrekla	mircea_popescu, this bash is too specific, a girl would need years of training to chew through it
19:54	kakobrekla	its like a small irc community inside small assets community inside small btc community
19:54	kakobrekla	noone gets it.
19:55	truffles	unfunny is still unfunny ..
19:55	kakobrekla	hm?
19:55	mircea_popescu	women are here to be tortured.
19:55	mircea_popescu	torture them.
19:56	pankkake	truffles: but the funniness of a joke often depends on its obscurity
19:56	pankkake	the less people can get it, the more funny it is
19:56	mircea_popescu	if we stoped to consider what people consider funny there'd be no humor at all.
19:56	pankkake	I think there's even a xkcd on this
19:57	kakobrekla	xkcd is not funny anymore, too mainstream!
19:58	pankkake	I was reading xkcd before it was popular
19:58	truffles	nerd humor sure
19:58	pankkake	no really. jokes between a few friends only you can get
19:58	kakobrekla	yeah well i left britney alone before you!
19:58	mircea_popescu	all humor is nerd humor. just different types of nerds.
19:58	truffles	o.0
19:58	deadweasel	when our brains are implanted into the machine, these will be archeological sites.
19:59	kanzure	git commit jokes from xkcd are too mainstream?
20:00	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] [PAID] 18.78434400 BTC to 13`920 shares, 134945 satoshi per share
20:00	kanzure	what do you want, panes complaining about blockchain sizes?
20:00	pankkake	git is very mainstream
20:00	pankkake	I mean, fucking github
20:00	kanzure	2 blockchainz gonna rap it up with snoop
20:01	mircea_popescu	github wow.
20:02	pankkake	so much commits
20:02	kakobrekla	//
20:03	pankkake	much stars
20:03	pankkake	very social
20:03	kakobrekla	dexX7 hows the bleeding on your screens
20:04	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] [PAID] 4.31491714 BTC to 336`577 shares, 1282 satoshi per share
20:05	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.05 = 0.45 BTC
20:06	dexX7	nothing notable
20:07	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.00257019 = 1.2851 BTC [-] {15}
20:07	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14704999 BTC [+]
20:11	truffles	i read that as Lorenzo "no" money ofc
20:11	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00267941 = 0.134 BTC [+] {6}
20:14	jurov	https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=DOGE now they are in it, too
20:15	Vexual	got me
20:15	jurov	haha
20:15	jurov	goodnight
20:17	thestringpuller	haha you got me too
20:19	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 89 @ 0.00299999 = 0.267 BTC [-]
20:20	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 92 @ 0.00299966 = 0.276 BTC [-] {2}
20:22	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 48 @ 0.00299999 = 0.144 BTC [+]
20:28	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2989 BTC [+]
20:33	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2989 BTC [+]
20:36	Vexual	doges kill bitcointalk?
20:37	jcpham	much doge
20:39	Vexual	such tricky
20:39	nubbins`	not premine, so scrypt
20:41	mircea_popescu	http://dpaste.com/1500997/ << check out mad javascript skills
20:41	ozbot	dpaste: #1500997
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20:41	mircea_popescu	window.onload = (typeof window.onload != 'function') ? loadChartbeat : function() { oldonload(); loadChartbeat(); };
20:42	Vexual	whodat
20:42	mircea_popescu	some kid.
20:43	nubbins`	that's some interesting code
20:43	mircea_popescu	it looks like it was written by someone with such competence very security.
20:43	mircea_popescu	much trust!
20:43	nubbins`	many key, so invest
20:44	mircea_popescu	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th0G8rkhBqg << the original doge, btw, was bogart.
20:44	ozbot	Casablanca - What watch? [CC] - YouTube
20:46	pankkake	what goes in the mind of people who promote a serive before it opens
20:46	nubbins`	"i'm helping"?
20:46	truffles	buzz
20:46	nubbins`	"lel omg"?
20:47	pankkake	you get buzz and people don't come back because there was nothing
20:47	truffles	build up
20:47	Apocalyptic	be sure to sell pre-orders
20:47	mircea_popescu	it's like truffles is a repository of all the wrong notions.
20:48	truffles	eh?
20:49	mircea_popescu	what buzz lol
20:49	thestringpuller	;;google buzz buzz
20:49	gribble	Buzz Buzz - EarthBound Wiki - This wiki stinks!: <http://earthbound.wikia.com/wiki/Buzz_Buzz>; Laurie Berkner - Bumblebee (Buzz Buzz) - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwVo5E04CVQ>; Amazon.com: Buzz Buzz: Music: <http://www.amazon.com/Buzz-Laurie-Berkner/dp/B00004S36S>
20:50	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.299 BTC [+]
20:51	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 50 @ 0.0028 = 0.14 BTC [+]
20:55	Vexual	the australian government underestimated the cost involved with burying fibre optic net to every house on the continent
20:56	Vexual	many wiretap, still fail
20:57	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.29 = 1.45 BTC [-]
20:58	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.28868002 = 1.4434 BTC [-] {2}
20:59	pankkake	http://i.imgur.com/58acA0m.png looks like Idiocracy even predicted inflation
20:59	Vexual	i imagine that prez is dead already
21:01	benkay	;;ticker --market btcavg
21:01	gribble	BitcoinAverage BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 892.77, Best ask: 899.02, Bid-ask spread: 6.25000, Last trade: 896.55, 24 hour volume: 90735.97, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: 910.96
21:07	Vexual	3x all the bitcoins so australia can get faster pron
21:10	Vexual	if i paid tax id be really cross
21:11	truffles	music links plz
21:13	kakobrekla	o lol
21:14	kakobrekla	wrote to someone earlier to do more reading and less question asking
21:14	kakobrekla	got email reply now
21:14	kakobrekla	http://shrani.si/f/l/Dl/2mFbDarR/unnamed.jpg
21:14	kakobrekla	too bad it isnt a spider
21:14	Vexual	they need less bandwidth
21:25	thestringpuller	;;bait
21:25	gribble	Error: "bait" is not a valid command.
21:26	thestringpuller	boo
21:26	thestringpuller	;;echo .bait
21:26	gribble	.bait
21:26	ozbot	http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0abxk6VUL1r440j0o1_1280.jpg
21:26	thestringpuller	;;echo .bait
21:26	gribble	.bait
21:26	ozbot	http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m19lfh2c6r1r6detlo1_400.jpg
21:26	pankkake	that's a good lenght of shirt
21:27	pankkake	.bait
21:27	thestringpuller	;;echo .bait
21:27	ozbot	http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0t4xhCsxS1r6i8czo1_500.jpg
21:27	gribble	.bait
21:27	thestringpuller	the porn lottery
21:27	thestringpuller	there we go
21:27	Vexual	u only get one ticket and pankakke won
21:27	pankkake	not sure
21:28	Vexual	no swapsies
21:32	truffles	pankkake any new blog posts?
21:33	thestringpuller	;;echo .bait
21:33	gribble	.bait
21:33	nubbins`	3d printed sausage casings
21:33	truffles	forgot the addy
21:33	ozbot	http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0mzamw5Zn1r6ogo4o1_500.jpg
21:33	pankkake	no
21:33	pankkake	oh I like that bait
21:34	mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/
21:34	Vexual	fuck pankakke, ill take that if you prefer the first
21:34	mircea_popescu	the butt in water one is by far the better.
21:34	Vexual	oh it was dickstrinbg
21:36	truffles	the blue thing on bottom right is troubling
21:36	Vexual	still down here mp
21:37	KRS1	wow she even look good in black and white
21:37	Vexual	who is it?
21:38	pankkake	vikki blows according to google images
21:38	Vexual	ill bet she does
21:38	pankkake	yeah, I dig the name. http://genesismedya.com/upload/resimler/galeri/z145f45f4d5fgd478gd7fg8df78678gds.jpg
21:40	truffles	both seem heavy on the face paint
21:41	pankkake	I'll make that makeup run down her face
21:42	Vexual	i dont think shell be jogging anywhere in those shoes mate
21:44	asciilifeform	phun phact: finally got in the mail: set of vacuum lifter tips. made of high-temp rubber by: Buna! (only ever heard that name in the context of Auschwitz III. had no idea the brand still existed!)
21:46	Vexual	whata a vacuum lifter tip? robot sonic?
21:46	asciilifeform	it's a kind of hand tool: https://vimeo.com/81028241
21:47	Vexual	is nsa building a production facility?
21:48	asciilifeform	a proper factory has robotic equivalent
21:48	asciilifeform	it's how 'surface-mount' parts get on the boards.
21:48	Vexual	i was gonna say your pics looked artisan applied
21:49	asciilifeform	photo/film is of the one in my kitchen...
21:49	asciilifeform	cheapo.
21:50	asciilifeform	the kind with squeeze bulb, you can get for a few $.
21:50	asciilifeform	but if you must align under a microscope, you need a platform.
21:51	Vexual	your smrs are neat
21:52	asciilifeform	if y're utterly broke you can use tweezers. but it's a pain.
21:54	Vexual	id trust some chinese lady with four kids to make 30/hr over a robot
21:54	asciilifeform	they use those for 'through-hole' components.
21:55	Vexual	one of her kids can do that at the same rate
21:57	Vexual	what are you building next?
21:58	asciilifeform	let that be a surprise.
21:59	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.09 = 0.27 BTC [-]
21:59	asciilifeform	who doesn't like surprises
21:59	Vexual	im intrigued
21:59	asciilifeform	mp can drop hints if he feels like it.
22:00	mircea_popescu	i'd rather drop mints
22:00	asciilifeform	haha
22:00	pankkake	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-11/fidelity-now-allowing-bitcoins-iras
22:00	ozbot	Fidelity Now Allowing Bitcoins In IRAs \| Zero Hedge
22:00	BingoBoingo	pankkake: Namecoin's blockchain would be better, but the miners rejected my DVD iso images
22:01	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.05 = 0.3 BTC
22:04	mircea_popescu	"This whole fucking thing has been embraced way to quickly and smoothly by TPTB for there to be a coincidence, folks."
22:04	mircea_popescu	lol.
22:05	asciilifeform	in the '90s, 'sci.crypt' was full of kids who swore they broke rsa. where are the kids swearing they broke ecdsa?
22:06	asciilifeform	(and will start emptying coldwallets 'any day now' naturally)
22:06	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.28388885 = 1.1356 BTC [-] {2}
22:06	mircea_popescu	asciilifeform i was kinda lolling at pankkake's link.
22:07	asciilifeform	well yeah, 'TPTB know something we don't' implication
22:07	mircea_popescu	the random idiot with delusions of knowledge populating the various social media outlets has switched from "tptb will kill bitcoin", a la goldbug's bs
22:07	mircea_popescu	to "tptp embraced btc too quickly".
22:07	pankkake	I always find it weird that people believe $randomgovagency must have some super hidden tech
22:07	mircea_popescu	this change has been much too rapid and smooth to leave any room for hope said rats are actually equipped with brains too
22:08	mircea_popescu	pankkake it's like the ingrained belief of cuckolded husbands that their mistress has a really sexy cunt.
22:08	asciilifeform	the 'it's a trap!' hypothesis is alluring and can never really be disproven.
22:08	mircea_popescu	she doesn't, but if they didn't believe that they couldn't put up with their life.
22:08	pankkake	the NSA is probably as efficient as the post office
22:09	mircea_popescu	give or take, yes.
22:09	asciilifeform	the mythical Meta-NSA on the other hand!
22:09	thestringpuller	asciilifeform works fo the NSA
22:09	Vexual	i can solve the drugery of 9002 and ip protection in and hour a day
22:09	thestringpuller	BERRY PUNNY
22:09	pankkake	I'll believe it when I'll see it
22:10	pankkake	no preorders I hope!
22:10	asciilifeform	phnu phact: i applied to work at the classic nsa once
22:10	Vexual	youre not allowed to say that if you dis
22:10	thestringpuller	phnu is not unix!!!!
22:10	asciilifeform	to nobody's particular surprise, they didn't answer
22:10	mircea_popescu	asciilifeform they can't take walk-ins. it'd make the chinese's job too easy
22:10	Vexual	lol
22:11	Vexual	thought-crime
22:11	asciilifeform	righto. blue blood only.
22:11	pankkake	wanted to pull a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrOZllbNarw?
22:12	thestringpuller	http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llaxltGOeC1qizvnso1_500.gif
22:12	mircea_popescu	some days i wish more smart people were involved in bitcoin.
22:12	mircea_popescu	some other days i just wish fewer idiots cluttered about under the delusion they're involved in bitcoin
22:12	thestringpuller	isn't that the same thing?
22:12	mircea_popescu	and then there's the days like today, when i no longer comprehend what the distinction between those two wishes is
22:12	KRS1	nothing but great news on cryptographic coin lately..
22:12	mircea_popescu	right.
22:12	thestringpuller	:D
22:12	Vexual	im one of millions but i want the govt
22:13	thestringpuller	"Socrates appears to have been a critic of democracy,[16] and some scholars interpret his trial as an expression of political infighting"
22:14	thestringpuller	democracy is bad mmmkay
22:14	thestringpuller	you niggas don't deserve a vote
22:14	nubbins`	democrates
22:14	Vexual	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4tmy2KGIEs
22:14	ozbot	Bob Marley 'Silly Hypocrities' - YouTube
22:16	nubbins`	http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/12/11/1919201/freebsd-developers-will-not-trust-chip-based-encryption
22:16	ozbot	FreeBSD Developers Will Not Trust Chip-Based Encryption - Slashdot
22:16	mircea_popescu	<pankkake> wanted to pull a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrOZllbNarw great link.
22:18	Vexual	my german ip gave me a robin thicke samsung ad when i clicked mps repost
22:21	Vexual	nsa are just analysts?
22:22	javanomad	;;seen unbalanced
22:22	gribble	unbalanced was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 0 hours, 40 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <unbalanced> (wish I'd hit enter a half-second sooner)
22:23	thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: you've never seen good will hunting?
22:23	Vexual	ever seen perdita durango?
22:26	thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: it's not your fault
22:26	thestringpuller	no no no no no
22:26	thestringpuller	It's not your fault
22:27	thestringpuller	IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT
22:31	nubbins`	http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/nelson-mandela-ceremony-sign-language-interpreter-a-fake-1.2459469
22:31	ozbot	Nelson Mandela ceremony sign language interpreter a 'fake' - World - CBC News
22:33	pankkake	wow, that's… deafist!
22:34	Vexual	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy04c-6DEgE
22:34	ozbot	Pink Floyd - Money - YouTube
22:34	nubbins`	Pink Floyd - Bitcoin
22:34	Vexual	poor fucker probably is deaf
22:35	Vexual	harder to make a coin if your deaf than blind
22:35	nubbins`	one of my roommates has no sense of smell
22:36	nubbins`	you can fart around him as much as you want
22:36	Vexual	lol
22:36	Vexual	mp cant tell green from red
22:36	nubbins`	altho when he does it, it's the perfect offensive weapon
22:37	Vexual	use it to your advantage
22:37	nubbins`	send him into crowded areas with a belly full of chili
22:38	Vexual	eek
22:38	mircea_popescu	thestringpuller hm ?
22:39	mircea_popescu	;;bcstats
22:39	gribble	Current Blocks: 274431 \| Current Difficulty: 9.08350862437022E8 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 276191 \| Next Difficulty In: 1760 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 11 hours, 25 minutes, and 42 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 1035260190.9 \| Estimated Percent Change: 13.9714
22:39	thestringpuller	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtkST5-ZFHw
22:39	mircea_popescu	check it out, basically this is goinna happen on xmas eve
22:40	thestringpuller	;;estimate
22:40	gribble	Next difficulty estimate \| 1035260190.9 based on data since last change \| 894132728.373 based on data for last three days
22:40	thestringpuller	;;nethash
22:40	gribble	6400549.04237
22:48	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 86 @ 0.0029 = 0.2494 BTC [+]
22:55	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.05 = 1.1 BTC
23:00	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.29 = 0.58 BTC [+]
23:00	thestringpuller	;;nethash
23:00	gribble	6400549.04237
23:07	thestringpuller	Jules: [while cleaning the bloodied car] Oh man, I will never forgive your ass for this shit. This is some fucked up repugnant shit.
23:07	thestringpuller	Vincent: Jules, did you ever hear the philosophy that once a man admits that he is wrong, that he is immediately forgiven for all wrongdoings? Have you ever heard that?
23:07	thestringpuller	Jules: Get the fuck outta my face with that shit. The motherfucker who said that shit never had to pick up itty bitty pieces of skull on the account of your dumb ass.
23:07	thestringpuller	Vincent: I got a threshold, Jules, I got a threshold for the abuse that I will take. And right now I.m a fucking race-car, alright, and you got me in the red. And I.m just saying, I.m just saying that it.s fucking dangerous to have a race-car in the fucking red, that.s all. I could blow.
23:08	thestringpuller	Jules: Oh, oh, you ready to blow?
23:08	thestringpuller	Vincent: Yeah, I.m ready to blow.
23:08	thestringpuller	Jules: Well I.m a mushroom cloud layin. motherfucker, motherfucker. Every time my fingers touch brain, I.m "Superfly TNT". I.m "The Guns of the Navarone". In fact, what the fuck am I doing in the back? You the motherfucker should be on brain detail. We.re fucking switching. I.m washing the windows, and you picking up this nigga's skull.
23:12	mod6	haha
23:14	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02674999 = 0.1337 BTC [-]
23:15	pankkake	nice sum
23:15	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.02674999 = 0.107 BTC [-]
23:19	Vexual	what does hmf do?
23:19	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 315 @ 0.0029 = 0.9135 BTC [+]
23:19	Vexual	who runs havelock?
23:20	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 300 @ 0.00295 = 0.885 BTC [+]
23:20	Vexual	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1hCsOW129s
23:20	ozbot	"How Low" H.M.S & The R.B.C - YouTube
23:21	thestringpuller	topace
23:21	thestringpuller	topace the canadian goose
23:26	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.2851 = 1.4255 BTC [-]
23:34	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05 = 0.15 BTC
23:37	nubbins`	http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/12/pawncoin/
23:37	ozbot	Need Cash, But Don't Want to Lose Your Bitcoins? Pawn Them \| Wired Enterprise \| Wired.com
23:38	KRS1	hah
23:38	assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.285 = 0.855 BTC [-]
23:39	thestringpuller	pankkake: a rien peux arrete-moi ?
23:39	pankkake	does not compute
23:47	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14290 @ 0.00088925 = 12.7074 BTC [-] {2}
23:48	assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 554 @ 0.00088715 = 0.4915 BTC [-]
23:53	pankkake	looks like secret sell wall is working
23:56	jborkl	Secret Santa sucks
23:59	Vexual	non secret santa exists?

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