#trilema | 2013-12-05

sorry tat

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdnYzIxQUWE

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Beastie Boys - Don't Play no Game That I Can't Win - YouTube

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.3468 = 1.0404 BTC [+] {3}

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music links, i'll occasionally click

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general youtube links, rarely

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hit me nubs

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-o5TRmiDIo

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Battles | Wall Street | A Take Away Show - YouTube

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filmed in paris city hall

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im scared

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wait i thought it was the metro

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who knows? the something anyway

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i was about to go upstairs and buy some catacombs porn

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[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 133 @ 0.0029101 = 0.387 BTC [-] {4}

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vexual

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9meN8MCYfI

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Nelly - E.I. - Lyrics - YouTube

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sup slut

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somethin to fuck with ya eardrum

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hahah

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just got done blasting it..back on my grind tonight..aint stoppin til the morning

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cant do it

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here's something else you can't do

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ok im getting to know what you dig

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH0ESZzIxMI

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The Jesus Lizard - Club - YouTube

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^ been listening to this on vinyl all week

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gecko_x2

jesus christ

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wow vinyl..some say that delivers the most fidelity

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feels like your ears are being tickled

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they put a lot more effort into mastering for vinyl

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some do

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my record player cost $12, when i upgrade, im sitting on a gold mine

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jesus lizard had a bunch of records produced by steve albini

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you can bet they were mastered best for vinyl ;)

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this kind of reminds me of early the breeders or something

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punk

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anyone tried makerbot records yet?

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?

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krs, check out the albums "goat" and "down" by these guys if you like it so far

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ok

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the associate?

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press print and get industrial noise

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34799999 BTC [+]

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ah, ?

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im digging song 1 of goat

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well if you printed a record with a makerbot, all the tracks would be 2mm apart

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goat's a great album

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see the cover art?

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yea

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actually not flames :0

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they have a grunge feel which i like a lot

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look closer

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hah i see a tit

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woman made out of flames neat..didnt notice it

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nod

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this is from 1991

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ya grunge era

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they seem like a group that would open for soundgarden.. The group Soundgarden is like one of my all time fav's..ever listen to them?

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listened to soundgarden a lot in my younger years

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saw em a couple of years ago in chicago

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soundgarden reminds me of me in my 20's street racing my 5.0 mustang with nitrous and shit..amazing i came out of that period alive.

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AMAZING COMPANY!

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some of my friends didnt and some are still dealing with their acid trips

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im gonna have to remember this album i like it thanks

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yah, worth many listens

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make me want to listen to badmotorfinger

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what?

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Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhHwuPNA-j4

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4b3MBkOx5k

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TehFZ38kt6o

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Thin Lizzy-Whiskey in the jar - YouTube

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[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2004 @ 0.000075 = 0.1503 BTC [+] {2}

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fLR3FRaFsQ

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Oasis - Some Might Say - Official Video - YouTube

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Oasis- good group

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I love it, play Eric Clapton - Cocaine on you tube.. an ad displays a link that reads "Buy Cocaine on iTunes"

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[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.0030129 = 0.9039 BTC [+] {3}

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youll get an ad for an ipod

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re: cocaine

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http://somehavechanged.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/george_harrison_-_cloud_nine-front.jpg

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^

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R044sleOW6I

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Ram Jam - Black Betty 1977 - YouTube

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nite

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wait prog rock is coming up

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.34799994 = 2.784 BTC [-] {3}

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voila prg rock

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heres a clip for those that prefer skaters givin lip than kittens

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xot0reBp2ec

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Ollie the Cat's Super Bowl 46 Prediction (Cat predicts Superbowl 2012) - YouTube

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[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14999999 BTC [+]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t7yCA5XCZk

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Snoop Dogg - 03 Crazy - Blue Carpet Treatment - YouTube

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i listen to this sometimes when im deep in thought or trading

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ukixviy1Wk

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Mams - You Can Fly - YouTube

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2VBcymnDC0

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvd71HyoNbk

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LEE SCRATCH PERRY e MAD PROFESSOR Mystic Warrior + Mystic Warrior Dub 1989 - YouTube

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badass lambo but anyone who knows anything about engines knows you dont rev it as soon as it starts, gotta let oil get up above the heads and what not

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never se em run, theyre like comets

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not much forums

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00080462 = 6.3163 BTC [-]

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mix it in dancehall people

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED31_wRIGYg

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Classic VTEC Mini Cooper Beats Camero SS - YouTube

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[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 22 @ 0.14074795 = 3.0965 BTC [-] {7}

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[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.13551 = 0.542 BTC [-] {2}

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[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1495 @ 0.00286784 = 4.2874 BTC [-] {9}

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[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 600 @ 0.00270986 = 1.6259 BTC [-] {11}

01:28

This Lee Perry joint is good

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Made me think of this

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJVfPU87hws

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Buju banton murderer - YouTube

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are google ahead of thge curve or average?

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how do you answer more questions at once with less ears?

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5 chains

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i dun get it

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i chain is just one stream of data

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ok

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2chains is dna

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double helix

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5 chains is dna*human conciousness

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ah ok

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i didnt do enough acid yet to get there

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im close to that level of understanding though i dig

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i've been freed

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well i consider that peer reviewd

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cool

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id like to add the ga*pig bill

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hmm, on seconf thought

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theres not much evidence of any of that bullshit

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do you know what i mean by 'freed'

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ill just copy these photoshop macros into spss..

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having been living in the framework that is presented to us and then understanding some things to achieve a higher level of conciousness and understanding

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not everyone makes it out

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sometimes referred to as lemmings

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yeah and comets

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a lot of drugs can get you there if intelligence doesnt..in my case it was good strong weed...others have used acid

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but have you ever SEEN a comet?

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yes it was hard to see

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haley's (sp?) comet back in the 80's

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whats that got to do with what i was talking about? also- some say comets seeded the universe with life

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yes well THAT one was in the newspaper, but..

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i saw a satellite burn up in our atmosphere the other night it was amazing

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AMAZING COMPANY!

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when you see one unexpectedly you use caps

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a satllite is 1m long

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when a big space rock hits the air, thats the shit

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fo sho...love that one that "hit" russia..although it didnt hit ground

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once a year touchdown? thats an asteroid belt babby!

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ever see videos from that

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my bad it wasnt a satellite i saw, it was the space-x rocket taking off

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watchign satellites if fun, but its the organic space shit you really wanna see

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yeah..its fun on a clear night to see how fast them satellites are going

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYqh6_GLwU4

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Tasmin Archer - Sleeping Satellite (Single Version 1992) - YouTube

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now if you had a radr array in orbit that could see a long way in 360, thatd pay

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ir 2pir/infinity cubed

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a perfect sine wave on every plane.

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cant be dont

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ice nad rock spin differently

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18068 @ 0.00080296 = 14.5079 BTC [-] {2}

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good driver good sensor, 1au out

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youd need a computer like prism to record all the inputs

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yeah it pretty much boils down to looking for the reflection from the sun

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7550 @ 0.00080731 = 6.0952 BTC [+]

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i see you know a thing or two about physics

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are you an engineer?

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are are talking about spectral analysis?

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with a laser

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nope i just sell trust companies

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which are really just a priavte key with 1mbtc

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crazy that you know this stuff too

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i did an ipo for a phone bookj and a computer and a maserati

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haha thats awesome..a friend of mine used to trade securities and told me some good stories..a lot of them do coke

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i was mentioned on the management team for a $5BB ipo for submarine fiber optic cable..but it floundered.

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lol should had nemo on the case

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hah here it is http://www.fiberopticsonline.com/doc/nmdg-exec-reveals-strategy-for-5-billion-glob-0001

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theres money in submarine cable to be sure

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you better believe

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cunts need utube

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as an engineer i spec'd out a lot of the equipment and direcly showed them how we could increase density for increased capacity and a better financial forecast

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buy more shit

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they didnt deserve me =D

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?

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no actually they spec'd out more expensive shit and i showed them the lucent models that increases wavelength density by using better multiplexors that were cheaper

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and then came the broadband piece that added another hundred million or so in certain markets

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i was still in college

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i still "lived the life" so to speak with many of the execs

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good times

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"We're trying to get to 2.5 terabits or even higher [per cable],"

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i would have siad you were puffing muffins

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haha

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solder the yellow wire to pin 3 for me

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i know all that shit..dense wave division multiplexing

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its ez

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you're tripping

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[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 345 @ 0.002914 = 1.0053 BTC [-]

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upper management for you

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if off to look for comets

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heh ok have fun

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not a manager, im just an engineer

~ 15 minutes ~

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eh- how bad is it if financial institutions in China are being banned for dealing in bitcoin

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Bloomberg..

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Breaking News

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China PBOC Bans Financial Companies From Bitcoin Transactions

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uh oh

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that's not good?

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link?

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strange though in context of an earlier statement: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1r6rup/chinas_central_bank_peoples_bank_of_china_deputy/

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Namworld: http://www.bloomberg.com/

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http://www.fxstreet.com/news/fxbeat/article.aspx?storyid=3201a1a7-d13e-4e46-a664-93847d67bbd6

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China's PBOC: Bitcoin isn't currency with real meaning

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something tells me this isnt good at all

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might lose 30% market price over this

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they gonna dump!

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ya wow

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9797 @ 0.00080747 = 7.9108 BTC [+] {2}

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I don't see the ban...

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Namworld huh?

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all i see is a paywall :/

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and you dont see them dumping over this?

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oh, it's gone from bloomberg.com

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paywall like what we have in the U.S.?

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there was a note on the top

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paywall meaning i couldn't access the article you linked :P

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damn

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No, I mean there's no notice of any ban anywhere

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http://i.imgur.com/JImF8Vw.png mirror

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bloomberg had a "Breaking News" note

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That looks half-assed...

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hmm

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China better not fuck this up for us

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front page of bloomberg had a note that said "Breaking News: China bans financial institutions from dealing in bitcoin"

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or something similar

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yea i saw it

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what exactly means "pdoc bans financial institutions from bitcoin transactions"?

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chetty

PBOC:Public free to participate but they bear risks

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sounds like they dont want their financial institutions failing because of it

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they are sensitive about their currency

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http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pbc.gov.cn%2Fpublish%2Fgoutongjiaoliu%2F524%2F2013%2F20131205153156832222251%2F20131205153156832222251_.html&sandbox=1

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original: http://www.pbc.gov.cn/publish/goutongjiaoliu/524/2013/20131205153156832222251/20131205153156832222251_.html

03:20

such as not having sex with mandatory legal tender currency property

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?

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oh snap that's real

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good find dexx7

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cya @ single digits :(

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o shit

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/05/china-bitcoin-idUSB9N0IQ02220131205

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China central bank warns banks against use of bitcoin

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what is unclear to me: do they suggest not to use bitcoin or do they prohibit it?

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"At this stage, the financial institutions and payment institutions are not allowed to Bitcoin price for the product or service, may not be sold or traded as a central counterparty bitcoin"

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hard to decipher that sentence

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the whole thing is hard to decipher for me :D

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is could mean "our banks are not allowed to price products in bitcoin"

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or "every company"

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this is bananas

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[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 73 @ 0.0030025 = 0.2192 BTC [+]

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LOL those fucks

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http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1s5e2i/bitcoin_crashing_due_to_mtgox_hack/

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34101001 BTC [-]

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"such as not having sex with mandatory legal tender currency property"

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Having sex with non-legal tender is dangerous. You could catch non-patriotism and other very nasty un-national diseases. Support the nation!

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However...

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"However, Bitcoin transaction as a commodity trading behavior on the Internet, ordinary people have the freedom to participate in the premise own risk."

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Chinese people are free to store value into Bitcoin it seems to say, at their own risk.

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So nothing changed...

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Needs better translation than google...

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right but it always appears to say that businesses are warned against accepting it

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always = also

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yeah they can jerk off with it without fiat

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well btcchina is crashing

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of course

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so it must be bad

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ya think

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=D

03:49

Cheap Chinese coin get it while its hot!

03:51

;;bids 1000

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There are currently 3452.1426 bitcoins demanded at or over 1000.0 USD, worth 3555744.46885 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.1959 seconds

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christ a lot of people are gonna buy high

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;;goxlag

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Fuck, btcchina at 794 USD?

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MtGox lag is 1129.882129 seconds. During this time, light travels 2.26427113573 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Ceres (in the main asteroid belt) (2.77 AU).

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Oh, must be why gox is still so high

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not sure.. last price i have is 6002 cny

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but seems like the ticker is dead

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mine shows 4839.58

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wtf

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Where are you looking?

03:54

holy shit

03:54

bitcoinwisdom and bitcoinity

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but i think you are right

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www.btcchina.com

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¥4,521.13 - ¥7,050.00 价格范围

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is there a clarkmoody's for btcchina?

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http://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/btcchina/btccny

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BTCChina BTC/CNY Charts - BitcoinWisdom

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but there is no new data..

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oh nice i didn't realize btcw offered that

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ah i see

04:01

anyone have experience with this?? this could take a while? or should I ready my positions now?

04:02

looks like it's already rallying on btcchina, back up to 5900

04:02

kyle_torpey

its an irrational swing so who knows

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<cdg> LTC/CNY went from 279 to 30

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kyle_torpey

lol

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LTC/CNY no market depth

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hehe yea

04:15

;;goxlag

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Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.

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lol

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[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 197 @ 0.0030025 = 0.5915 BTC [+]

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;;bids 1065

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There are currently 0.06 bitcoins demanded at or over 1065.0 USD, worth 64.3540146 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0697 seconds

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[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 135 @ 0.0030159 = 0.4071 BTC [+]

~ 26 minutes ~

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;;bc,stats

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04:54

how significant is this for bitcoin in general?

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im worried other governments will follow

04:55

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 53 @ 0.33339714 = 17.67 BTC [-] {15}

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KRS|gotyawallet: wait for decent translation first

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right

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;;goxlag

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MtGox lag is 20464018.5412 seconds. During this time, light travels 41009.6640301 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to heliopause (out of the solar system!) (100 AU).

05:04

here is something new: http://finance.ifeng.com/a/20131205/11223093_0.shtml reddit says "it's good"..

05:04

oh wait, it's the same text, sorry

05:07

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1s5ckc/first_official_document_from_chinese_government/cdu381s

05:07

furfighter comments on First OFFICIAL document from Chinese government (People's Back of China) abou

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2332 @ 0.00080662 = 1.881 BTC [-]

05:19

if i do really well off this I'm going to go get FUCKED UP at the strip club. Bet that.

05:19

might take 1 or 2 home with me

05:20

Gox $914

05:27

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 38 @ 0.00301404 = 0.1145 BTC [-] {2}

05:35

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19850 @ 0.00080683 = 16.0156 BTC [+] {2}

05:36

this is going to take hours to stabilize ya think?

~ 18 minutes ~

05:55

[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.14959999 = 0.5984 BTC [+] {2}

05:56

[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.14999999 = 0.6 BTC [+]

05:57

[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.14999999 = 0.3 BTC [+]

05:59

[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.14999999 = 0.3 BTC [+]

06:13

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8080 @ 0.00080283 = 6.4869 BTC [-] {2}

06:14

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 58 @ 0.00301598 = 0.1749 BTC [+] {2}

06:18

hello assets

06:24

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.00324999 = 0.1137 BTC [-]

06:28

ThickAsThieves ghash.io is not run by bitfury, no

06:28

exactly in the sense the hash exchange wasn't run by pirate.

06:29

and for that matter, anyone can send hashing to ghash, it being a pool.

06:29

that you send some hashing their way means exactly nothing in any sense.

06:31

bloctoc the bot only quotes when it can get a datafeed. if it can't it doesn't quote, and its previous quotes expire

06:33

hello davout

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usd 24h vwap 1023.03 7day vwap 1023.74. seems we're stabilizing.

06:45

lol China is playing the FUD game now I see

06:45

I wonder how many coins they are buying

06:46

usd 24h vwap 1023.03 7day vwap 1023.74. << possibly a good time to underwrite options?

06:46

sell deep puts to the bot lol

06:47

ThickAsThieves actually, the legislative strategy of the chinese governments ever since the days of confucius was,

06:47

make strong worded, vaguie proclamations. this will encourage they who do things they think are wrong to desist,

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without forcing the bureaucracy to actually explain what is wrong and how to identify it.

06:47

!ticker m s.mpoe

06:47

[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00079975 / 0.00080781 / 0.00081785 (177732 shares, 143.57 BTC), 7D: 0.00078278 / 0.00080056 / 0.0008476 (1566139 shares, 1,253.80 BTC), 30D: 0.0007725 / 0.0008174 / 0.00088996 (5865320 shares, 4,794.36 BTC)

06:48

so I read this as banks and the general financial market cant play bitcoin, but everyone else can, including gox

06:48

iy

06:48

well, the govt kinda owns the banks

06:49

so it's really more like, if you make a loss trading bitcoin we'll shoot you. if you make a gain we'll maybe promote you, we'll see about that, don't bet on it.

06:49

hehe

06:49

anyway, who knows. i don't trust my grasp of the chinese intricacies much.

06:50

unlike the us, these people have had over three thousand years to complicate things.

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nor google translate

06:50

is there a "real" translation somewhere?

06:50

no i actually have people that speak the language peering at it for me.

06:50

this is a serious operation.

06:54

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 39 @ 0.00324999 = 0.1267 BTC [-]

06:55

i dont understand what has even changed with this announcment

06:58

well, it specifies chinese banks are not to use bitcoin as a currency, as the chief point.

06:58

were they?

06:58

which you know, kinda matches rthe fincen earlier report. bitcoin is, all the pretense of interested parties to the contrary, not a currency,

06:59

as ruled on trilema, oct 6 2012.

06:59

not afaik, no.

06:59

what did you rule it, a commodity?

06:59

wow gold

06:59

ah yes

06:59

anyway, some people were contemplating vehicles such as funds

07:00

so this means the US will def approve the winklething

07:00

the chinese do have a serious problem, in the following sense : it's a highly competitive society, much more so than the us was in the 50s. people are very performance driven.

07:00

the economic situation is dire, the finances are in a mess. everyone is earnestly looking for ways to conserve capital values

07:01

had this pronouncement not been made, we could have ended up with a rush from chinese provincial authorities buying bitcoins and erecting miner farms

07:01

so if anything it's good, in that it balances out the govt battle, because the us (all its pretense to the contrary) could not have kept up.

07:02

in this sense it subtly strengthens bitcoin, because it's current value and recent explosion are both due to the little secret made public also on trilema, ie govts involved.

07:02

as long as there remains balance bitcoin will do ok.

07:02

tldr CHEAP COINZ

07:04

more like, "the chinese central authorities are not exactly asleep, and picked the right course".

07:06

anyway, one point that is perhaps not directly obvious to foreigners is that china contains about 10mn people who have the authority to spend various amounts of public funds.

07:06

it's a strange mix between a command economy and a market economy, and managing it looks more like herding 10mn cats.

07:07

that's a really good observation

07:07

know what i'm sayin'?

07:07

:p

07:07

easy to herd cats if you pavlov them with treats

07:08

I can whistle and all my animals come to me

07:08

this is what they did so far. the problem is there's a finite bulk of treats, and they're trying to soft land it atm

07:09

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-21/chinas-ghost-cities-are-multiplying << so apparently the chinese like bubbles?

07:09

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2012/05/China%20Cement.jpg << this graph is kinda funny

07:10

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3449 = 0.6898 BTC [+]

07:11

well more like can't easily avoid them

07:11

the westerners love bubbles, and they could EASILY avoid them

07:13

don't you think the chinese would have learned after building the first ghost city that it doesn't work though?

07:13

so couldn't they easily avoid the real estate bubble they are creating?

07:15

;;ticker

07:15

MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1044.00001, Best ask: 1046.9999, Bid-ask spread: 2.99989, Last trade: 1049.4, 24 hour volume: 47832.40001050, 24 hour low: 870.001, 24 hour high: 1240.0, 24 hour vwap: 1082.84601

07:15

looks like US is still bullish

07:15

i doubt they went "o hey, know what'd be cool ? if we built a ghost city!"

07:21

thestringpuller http://trilema.com/2013/notorious-mp-layin-down-that-subliminal-shit-na-mean/#comment-96545

07:21

mwahah

07:21

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14150 @ 0.0007965 = 11.2705 BTC [-]

07:22

am i pretty fly for a white guy or what.

07:25

ha!

07:27

http://www.latribune.fr/actualites/economie/france/20131205trib000799423/la-banque-de-france-demonetise-le-bitcoin.html

07:28

France singing along

07:28

my ring feels well kissed.

07:29

ESPECIALLY seeing all the intervening experts in their own head in the past 13 months opining on the topic as if they knew better.

07:33

Have you heard of the " LOYAL3 Social IPO platform"

07:34

my mom got this email from a large US Movie Theater corp: "To our AMC Stubs members,

07:34

AMC Entertainment Holdings, Inc., the parent company for AMC Theatres, is going public. We are reserving a number of shares in our initial public stock offering (IPO) for you, our most loyal customers, to reserve on a first-come, first-serve basis. The price per share will be determined by negotiations between us and the underwriters of the IPO, but it will be the same price per share

07:34

as offered to Wall Street investors.

07:34

We will also give you the same 24-hour head start our employees will receive, in order to ensure you have the earliest opportunity to reserve shares at the offering price. While many companies depend on their customers' support every day, those customers don't always get the chance to own a piece of the action at the same price as Wall Street investors. We're offering this exclusive

07:34

employee benefit to our AMC Stubs members to express our sincere gratitude for your loyalty.

07:34

If this interests you, please click here to learn more.

07:34

Please note that to execute this idea, we have opted to use the LOYAL3 Social IPO platform, an innovative new way to bring IPOs to market, where you can buy from $100 to $2,500 of our stock, and sell stock, with no fees. "

07:34

sounds like something from the forums

~ 18 minutes ~

07:53

i can't help but feel it's a pr stunt to drum up value to major investors

07:53

its also a way to check the temperature

07:54

look even the proles get a piece, give us attention

07:54

they ask you to contact them if interested

07:54

this may give them some info on how people value it

07:54

of course the people they are asking arent even the target audience for their stock...

07:55

i guess i shouldn't knock it until the amount of shares to be made available in this way is known, i'd be shocked if it was more than 2% of the company

07:56

i'd be shocked if their Stubs holders and employees could afford 2%

07:56

mm good point

07:56

tis an interesting email tho

07:57

this China release explicitly explains that bitcoin is not money, but also explicitly states that bitcoin exchanges must use anti-"money" laundering measures

07:57

i suppose fiat is the money in that case

07:57

nvm

07:58

a lil derpy this morning

07:58

coffee time

08:03

sooo, i wake up, there's a turkey in the oven

08:03

i end up having stuffed turkey for breakfast with a few slices of camembert

08:03

this WORKS omg. davout you gotta try it.

08:06

did you hear about the toejam cheese?

08:06

ThickAsThieves don't go trippin on the camembert yo

08:07

while i dont eat cheese anymore, i always preferred the very sharp, hard stuff

08:07

like mimolette

08:07

this was young, but it had possibly the finest velvet micelium i've yet seen.

08:08

why not eat cheese anyway ? it's what made us white folk smart enough to rule all the other races.

08:08

well, i dont think you really want me to answer that

08:09

like asking why am i vegan

08:09

no one cares

08:09

just as long as it's not a youtube link

08:09

haha

08:09

the core of it for me is that i cherish life

08:10

simplest way to put it

08:10

but life w/o camembert is scarcely life. if i offered you the deal of 200 year lifespans as long as you lived in a hamster ball weould you live in a hamster ball ?

08:11

that's a much bigger question than cheese

08:11

lol

08:12

i have no idea if my brain could handle that lifestyle

08:12

can people come into my ball?

08:12

nope.

08:12

they got germs yo

08:13

while i require minimal social interaction, i know humans are social creatures

08:13

so odds are i'd go nuts before 200 yrs

08:13

so you can wave at them through your transparent enclosure

08:13

and you can irc

08:13

how do i IRC, voice recog?

08:13

200 years on IRC hehe

08:14

no you got a kbd in your bubble

08:15

is your point that cows live longer cuz we like their cheese?

08:15

i think i missed something

08:16

my point is that generally speaking restrictive diets are unhealthy. i fail to see any diference between "i shall only eat mcchicken nuggets" and "i shall only eat asparagus".

08:16

not implying it's what you do, obviously.

08:17

i never ate much meat to begin with

08:17

cheese tho, yeah

08:17

but i have no lack of access to fat

08:17

now, not feeling like some cheese is one thing, not feeling like cheese for two decades running is another, but not eating cheese because baby jesus disaproves ?

08:17

fuck baby jesus.

08:18

its not religious

08:18

well my friend, how can you show that ?

08:18

its more like how you dont wanna put a warning on bitbet

08:18

there's many religions.

08:19

maybe over time the world is more like the one i idealize

08:19

you idealise a world without cheeze ?!

08:19

no actually

08:19

i'm okay with cheese in general

08:19

but we cant seem to cheese responsibly

08:20

anyway, a good side discussion re the cheese that made us smart, see the other satoshi : http://unenumerated.blogspot.ro/2013/11/european-asian-divergence-predates.html

08:20

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.003014 = 0.1507 BTC [-]

08:20

i suppose there is a pinch of spirituality in it too

08:20

like if i come back as a cow

08:21

lemme fukn graze

08:21

dont put me in a box with tubes in all my holes

08:21

these cows grazed

08:22

i can appreciate old-fashioned farm cows

08:22

i can even appreciate eating said cow when its time if thats what you wanrt

08:22

what kind of warning do you not want to put on bitnet? about usa laws?

08:22

http://www.lonelyplanet.com/france/normandy/activities/other/president-farm

08:22

you can actually go tour their farm

08:23

jamespeerless http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-12-2013#404449

08:23

a discussion there

08:23

ah about snackman

08:23

:P

08:23

[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 0.1685 = 0.5055 BTC [+]

08:24

basically al that does is bloat the ONE page.

08:24

you can't have everything be the first line.

08:25

indeed

08:25

yeah i don't think its needed at all

08:25

i disagreed with your not warning people right til you pointed out that it was good training

08:25

people don't read page 2 so let's fuck up the flow of page 1 by smashing in there a bad summary of page 2

08:25

read the faq's if you have a question

08:25

and then i realized you are right

08:25

then even fewer people read even page 1

08:26

ThickAsThieves i;m more stating it plain for the benefit of the lurker than anything

08:26

i guess you could maybe add a small warning on the receiving address page when they are about to send money only if there's less than X hours until close

08:26

jamespeerless how would you know ?

08:26

being the pied piper of penny bitcoin shares has taught me much in this regard

08:26

people need to fucking TRY to get info

08:27

;;google charles schmid

08:27

Charles Schmid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Schmid>; Charles Schmid: The Pied Piper of Tucson — Secrets in the Sand ...: <http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/serial_killers/predators/schmid/sand_1.html>; Pied Piper of Tucson: Twisted 1960s killings by Charles Howard ...: <http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/pied-piper-tucson- (1 more message)

08:27

just try, please!

08:27

here's a guy that was fucking a bunch of teenage chicks

08:27

and then decided to kill some just to see how it is

08:27

i get these emails like "I had shares on BTCT, now what" still

08:27

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.02240001 = 0.2016 BTC [+]

08:28

what's BTCT?

08:28

try

08:28

:D

08:28

jamespeerless it was glbse v2.

08:29

ah found it

08:30

"Mexican cobalt-60 thieves will soon die of radiation exposure, say officials"

08:30

lol

08:30

"They will, without a doubt, die."

08:30

awesome

08:30

this seems an officious lie.

08:31

well its likely in between

08:31

On a long enough timeline, we all die.

08:31

the handlers were likely planned to die all along

08:31

bitbet down?

08:31

pankkake i see it ?

08:32

wow anything for a buck

08:32

Microsoft labels US government a ‘persistent threat' in plan to cut off NSA spying

08:32

ThickAsThieves i dunno, i imagine it must have been in some sort of container

08:32

i see it too, pankkake

08:32

hmm… I hope it's a temporary problem with OVH

08:32

The abandoned cobalt-60 was found removed from its casing about 25 miles from where it was stolen

08:33

from my other IP I can access it

08:33

ouch

08:33

yeah, they're gonna die.

08:33

this reminds me of a case in brazil some years ago

08:34

it's now thought that the two men didn't know what was inside the truck, which was en route to a local storage facility, and only unsealed the material out of curiosity.

08:34

poor kitties

08:34

pankkake pm me your ip

08:34

;;bcstats

08:35

08:35

it lowers!

08:35

;;google goiania accident

08:35

Goiânia accident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goi%C3%A2nia_accident>; The Radiological Accident in Goiânia - Publications - International ...: <http://www-pub.iaea.org/mtcd/publications/pdf/pub815_web.pdf>; Goiânia´s Legacy Two Decades On: <http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/2008/goiania.html>

08:36

amazing stuff that crazy even exists

08:36

AMAZING COMPANY!

08:36

science!

08:37

anyway, the secret is just how tolerant of radiation the human body is.

08:37

in that case, out of hundreds of people exposed four died

08:38

There he spread some of it on the cement floor. His six-year-old daughter, Leide das Neves Ferreira, later ate a sandwich while sitting on the floor. She was also fascinated by the blue glow of the powder, and applying it to her body, showed it off to her mother. Dust from the powder fell on the sandwich she was consuming; she eventually absorbed 1.0 GBq, total dose 6.0 Gy, which is

08:38

roughly equal to 13 Sv, more than the fatal dose even with treatment.

08:38

/mode #bitcoin-assets -c

08:38

crap

08:38

webchat sucks

08:38

mod6

use irssi

08:39

i do

08:39

mod6

!?

08:39

my server is funny today, so I'm on webchat, trying to get it back up

08:39

ThickAsThieves can you picture that ?

08:39

hosed my networking, is dumb for a remote server

08:39

mod6

deadweasel: ah

08:39

it's quite surreal

08:46

"Seventh Company Ltd. evaluation has been made based on previous first and second rounds of investments by Havelock Investments Canadian Bitcoin based Fund Exchange during due diligence process and it is indeed a post-money valuation (not pre-money valuation!). But of course evaluation took into consideration total capital invested in the previous rounds by Angel investors and VC, as

08:46

well as income and profit estimations. "

08:47

this in response to me asking for explanation of valuation

08:47

'post-money valuation'

08:47

whoever wrote that has significant experience as online tech support and no experience as a finance anything.

08:47

^^

08:48

lol

08:48

please give me millions of $ so I can be worth millions of $

08:49

then you can be too!

08:49

i started to ask him for actual list of assets

08:49

but realized i'd be wasting my time

08:52

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00078114 = 12.9669 BTC [-]

08:52

well at least it's a collection of words...

08:54

ThickAsThieves, did topace himself wrote that ?

08:54

i do not know

08:55

not unless he's now azn.

08:55

i assume the quote is from the 7C guy

08:55

and that james isnt intimitaly involved other than as dev team for HL

08:55

but thats just a guess too

08:56

intimately*

08:57

i dont know who wrote the prospectus though

08:57

[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.1499 = 0.2998 BTC [-]

08:57

but even that document says it can change anything it says at anytime

08:57

sooooo

08:58

people will eventually figure out the importance of being able to talk to the actual guy running the show and making the calls.

08:58

there's a reason mpex is mpex whereas all the labcoins out there consist of people talking tough but then upon on examination peeling away like onion skins

09:00

[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14995 BTC [+]

09:00

REP. BOB GOODLATTE (R-VA): Professor Turley, the constitution, the system of separated powers is not simply about stopping one branch of government from usurping another. It's about protecting the liberty of Americans from the dangers of concentrated government power. How does the president's unilateral modification of act of Congress affect both the balance of power between the political branches and the liberty inter

09:00

ests of the American people?

09:00

JONATHAN TURLEY: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The danger is quite severe. The problem with what the president is doing is that he's not simply posing a danger to the constitutional system. He's becoming the very danger the Constitution was designed to avoid. That is the concentration of power in every single branch.

09:00

o look, the us pot is cooking up.

09:01

link?

09:01

mircea_popescu: haha i will, you should try yesterdays sushi wrapped in the morning crepes, it does work too

09:01

sushi never gets to be yesterday's here.

09:01

i got catwomenz.

09:01

got it

09:02

ThickAsThieves kinda circlejerking each other, obviously, but the stuff they have to say...

09:02

o nelly.

09:02

in other news :

09:02

Few studies have examined a direct causative effect between smoking marijuana and gynecomastia. A report in 1972 made the initial connection between cannabis and gynecomastia.

09:03

did you know manboobs come from pot ?

09:03

well it messes with hormone levels

09:03

but it also makes you fatter

09:03

soo...

09:04

so can i have an m to the a to the n to the booooo-oooobs

09:16

Good afternoon assbot

09:16

hi

09:19

http://shtfplan.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/major-stock-market-crash-in-january.gif

09:19

shit people come up with

09:28

[08:53:31] <Apocalyptic> ThickAsThieves, did topace himself wrote that ?

09:28

^ i did not

09:29

ThickAsThieves is correct, i have nothing to do with underwriting new listings any more

09:29

and i questioned the valuation as well

09:29

topace get a signed statement to that effect, you never know when you need one.

09:30

mircea_popescu: its all in the contracts we signed already

09:31

good thinking there. aite.

09:37

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16858 @ 0.00078889 = 13.2991 BTC [+]

09:50

Diablo-D3

+ticker

09:50

Diablo-D3

;;ticker

09:50

MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1090.0, Best ask: 1099.0, Bid-ask spread: 9.00000, Last trade: 1099.0, 24 hour volume: 53856.39443812, 24 hour low: 870.001, 24 hour high: 1240.0, 24 hour vwap: 1079.57079

09:50

Diablo-D3

;;ticker --market coinbase

09:50

Coinbase BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1005.72, Best ask: 1028.26, Bid-ask spread: 22.54000, Last trade: 1016.03, 24 hour volume: None, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: None

09:51

[MPEX] [S.MG] 5555 @ 0.000158 = 0.8777 BTC [+]

09:51

[MPEX] [S.NSA] 8888 @ 0.00015 = 1.3332 BTC [+]

09:51

In a sign of the times, whistleblowers who help bust illegal gold shipments can get a bigger reward in India than those who help catch cocaine and heroin smugglers.

09:52

[MPEX] [S.BBET] 493 @ 0.0006499 = 0.3204 BTC [+]

09:55

http://i.imgur.com/wiygh0o.jpg

09:56

Can 7C compete? http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/4/5175786/jane-austen-mmo-gets-funding-promises-18th-century-delights

09:57

two brains, no fair

09:58

"while traditional MMOs have epic raids, we have extravagant balls"

09:58

hahaha

09:59

LOL

09:59

No way.

09:59

That's a REAL quote?

09:59

yep

10:00

watch the vid

10:00

a woman quotes some real gems

10:00

I WANT TO BE THE BELL OF THE BALL!

10:00

" various game scenarios like dinner parties"

10:00

ROFL

10:01

What will guilds be called? "Knitting Clubs"?

10:02

"Unlike many multi-player games, it's not about kill or be killed but invite or be invited. Gossip is our weapon of choice. Instead of raids, we will have grand balls. Instead of dungeons, we will have dinner parties."

10:02

Biggest Balls Guild

10:02

I cannot wait until 4Chan picks this up as a target.

10:02

so it's a mmorpg for little girls?

10:02

haha, yeah

10:02

And grandmothers, apparently.

10:03

"Did you hear? xxKILLERSLUTxx didn't get an invite to the King's Ball!" *GASP!*

10:04

where's my Google Glass invite

10:04

are people giving away codes anywhere?

10:06

this is one of those things that sounds good on paper and then goes nowhere.

10:06

well... this doesn't sound that good on paper, either.

10:07

what, having a 24/7 spycam streaming to the NSA?

10:08

though I'd like to try the eye thing. and know what optometrists think about it

10:08

having some sort of permanent HUD would be great

10:10

just put it on when you fuck some bitches to get the NSA guys all hard

10:14

ok so i just made a cup of this ethiopian coffee you assets scammed me into buying

10:14

its not bad, but nothing special so far, maybe the dosage is a bit off

10:15

a bit like romanian beer

10:15

monocle displays are terrible.

10:16

i own one - http://www.loper-os.org/vintage/paralleleye/eye.html - (1989! and higher res than virtually all modern 'consumer' ones) but 15 minutes, and then headache.

10:17

the codes are cheap on ebay i see

10:17

[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14995 BTC [+]

10:17

what do you do with the code then

10:17

you buy a pair

10:17

and you are then part of the Explorer program

10:17

so you buy a code with which you can buy a pair

10:18

is there a code i must buy to buy the code?

10:18

which lets you get replacements and upgrades

10:18

well it also must depend on people. I know I am very subject to weird stuff in my eyes. can't do that 3D shit or even images moving randomly

10:18

why pair? they make lefthanded version too?

10:18

kakobrekla romanian beer is not bad ?!

10:18

i just thoguht , .. pair of eyes ...

10:18

shit.

10:19

3D bugs me too, but for some reason it was fine for me during a recent thor viewing

10:19

just a bit watery

10:19

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.0029 = 0.232 BTC [+]

10:19

is not bad no.

10:19

a hey. i thought it's kinda meh

10:20

what style beer do romanians do?

10:20

well, those things will be a goldmine for orthoptists

10:21

im not beer expert , but i had a lot of different ones

10:21

the last one i had was in romania actually

10:23

i dunno really, i never drink the stuff

10:26

http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/12/scientist-developed-malware-covertly-jumps-air-gaps-using-inaudible-sound/

10:26

Scientist-developed malware prototype covertly jumps air gaps using inaudible sound | Ars Technica

10:28

i'm sticking to my rpi for airgapping purposes

10:28

the same rpi with a MB of closed source blob running on dedicated core?

10:28

communicated != jumps

10:28

what's the blob gonna do?

10:28

this is a sophomore project, build audio relay.

10:29

seems like nobody ever heard of... modem.

10:29

well not the kids of today, no.

10:29

i used to get my first torrents off tv, yo.

10:29

well everyone was "hurr durr aint use ultrasound, there are filters"

10:29

jurov` that part yeah

10:30

the phun part is that you needn't use ultrasound.

10:30

http://trilema.com/2013/a-simple-example-as-to-why-fiat-institutions-cant-stand/ << me being a bitch.

10:30

A simple example as to why fiat institutions can’t stand pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

10:30

high-res, stable oscillators in modern machines let you pull, say, the following trick:

10:30

'click' sound to start counter; next 'click' - value of counter is transmitted word.

10:30

(with heavy error-correction, naturally.)

10:31

no ultrasound, and still pretty good bandwidth.

10:32

you could make a crickets app and nobody'd ever know

10:32

or use modulation that sounds like white noise

10:33

and, the grand prize: say the victim owns a fleet of PCs which pick up interference somewhere in the 25-300MHz range.

10:33

then, transmitter using... displays.

10:33

(example: http://xtrmntr.org/priikone/programs/tempest-AM-README)

10:35

so will noise cancellation be a future security feature?

10:35

they already have good grasp of doing it

10:35

that falls under RF compatibility

10:35

for things like headphones and such

10:35

but everyone cheats to meet rf norms

10:35

cuz it's expensive to do it right

10:36

actually, noise cancellation circuit, given that it emits sound, makes a great side channel.

10:36

not to mention that you can craft periodic signals that the canceller will actually amplify.

10:36

oh well

10:36

just listen to merzbow and you'll be safe

10:36

also you needn't a speaker to produce sound.

10:37

i have several laptops where i can hear the cpu easily enough

10:37

nod re: canceller amplifying

10:37

why? inductor buzz in the power supply circuit

10:37

noise cancellation ain't great for unexpected signals

10:37

common on GPUs

10:37

useless really

10:38

just demand proper RF compatibility, as used in TV studios

10:38

nubbins`: naturally you can't decode individual instructions from the buzz - but you can modulate it if desired

10:38

you just have to pay 100x more for stuff

10:38

also you can control the fan of GPUs easily

10:38

as a wanna-be audiophile i dont trust noise cancellation not to fuck up the sound anyway

10:38

nod

10:38

pankkake: nothing to do with the fan

10:38

just saying it's another source of communication

10:38

all noise cancellation is

10:39

is a mic and a circuit that precisely inverts the sound coming into the mic

10:39

yep

10:39

great if you're on an airplane

10:39

useless if you're seated next to a shrieking baby

10:39

nubbins`: not quite. there's a delay loop in there. thinkaboutit.

10:39

hehe

10:39

[HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.05499999 = 0.11 BTC [-]

10:39

speed of sound being finite.

10:39

ah, i suppose, yeah

10:40

i just figured they used tungsten wires to carry the signal ;)

10:42

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17630 @ 0.00078219 = 13.79 BTC [-]

10:44

amagi metals: "The bad news is that there is a huge snow storm that hit us here in Denver, so there may be some shipping delays from FedEx and USPS after we get your orders out."

10:44

somebody mentioned yesterday about -18F in denver?

10:48

from the crackpot brigade: https://likeinamirror.wordpress.com/2013/12/01/satoshi-nakamoto-is-probably-nick-szabo/

10:51

from the crack brigade: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/rob-ford-documents-8-revelations-from-wiretap-evidence-1.2451620

10:51

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10:51

!b 2

10:51

lol

10:51

nubbins` somebody was me.

10:52

ah yes indeed

10:52

i am the keeper of the aforeknowledges

10:52

no doubt their silver rounds are snapping in half down there

10:52

and their marihuana cigarettes will not stay lit

10:52

lol

10:52

and their uh

10:53

has hockey started yet? those guys are probably fine

10:55

why is Ford's brotherly relationship news?

10:55

he's an emotional scammer?

10:56

he's a toronto city councillor

10:56

yes, that's right, the fine folks of toronto voted two idiot brothers into office

10:57

but who cares if they arm wrestle?

10:57

ah, nobody, i suppose

10:57

i think the point being made is that they always support each other

10:57

except for that one time when doug was mad at rob

10:57

around the time he was accused of smoking crack

10:58

the implication being that doug knew it was true, and was quite upset

10:58

in other news, we've managed to baffle greenspan

10:58

ah, he's had his gunwales padded?

10:58

wait, sorry, no. other baffle.

10:59

"I do not understand where the backing of Bitcoin is coming from. There is no fundamental means of "repaying' it by any means that is universally accepted."

10:59

yeah, he said bitcoin isn't backed by anything!

10:59

who would ever use such a currency!

10:59

lol

10:59

http://www.loper-os.org/?p=752

10:59

Loper OS » For Your Eyes Only

10:59

'sure, this carriage is horseless, but where are the reins? gotta be somewhere.'

10:59

i like that story

10:59

"I haven't been able to identfy the intrinsic value of Bitcoin - maybe someone else can...

10:59

but if you ask me if this is a bubble in bitcoin... yeah it's a bubble.

10:59

the funny part is... bernanke just said gold is a bubble

10:59

for about the same reasons.

11:00

so he says I dunno wtf is going on, but lemme tell ya, it's def a bubble

11:00

my take home ios that it sucks having kids. because if you have kids then you have to find employment, which transforms you into bernanke. and then you grow old, which makes you greenspan.

11:00

i'd rather not be stupid.

11:01

but how will your vision for the world be achieved once you pass?

11:01

need more little mirceas

11:01

for what purpose ?

11:01

posthumous revenge?

11:01

well... inasmuch as i didn't make the original one,

11:01

I don't think he acknowledges his mortality

11:01

go ahead and make more little mirceas

11:02

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.0029 = 0.58 BTC [+]

11:02

"To read about all those other people you’ve got to buy the Professional version or even the Enterprise Edition."

11:02

hehe

11:02

pankkake i just don't acknowledge the relevance of the world past that point.

11:02

until you are reborn a milk cow in the US ;)

11:02

nubbins`: the author of that piece did turn up eventually.

11:03

maybe i'm reborn a mastiff on a porn set in california.

11:03

named Ma Stiff.

11:04

no relation to Ma Barker: http://missouriwomen.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/bloody-mama-1970_imagelarge.jpg

11:04

:D

11:04

i like it when people catch on vague maladroit references i make

11:04

any sharper and i'd cut myself

11:05

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2013-0-5-BTC-Brass-Casascius-Physical-Bitcoin-REDEEMED-/331076143888?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item4d15ad0b10&_uhb=1

11:05

2013 0 5 BTC Brass Casascius Physical Bitcoin Redeemed | eBay

11:05

7 hours to go

11:06

gpg signed, sent back under same name

11:06

ouch

11:06

filthy racist nao

11:06

hahaha

11:06

that was perhaps not the best move.

11:06

ahahahahahahahahahaha

11:06

if they get pissed off it's one thing, but what if

11:07

"what's this niggers.asc in our network drive?"

11:07

they really like it and ivnite you to weird aryan union events

11:07

ah, this raises a point

11:07

i should really back up my pgp keys and put them somewhere safe

11:07

what lol 140$ for a piece of brass

11:07

kakobrekla: i know, rite?

11:07

at least it isnt 3btc like mp paid!

11:08

lolololol

11:08

someone should make chocolate bitcoins

11:08

well maybe i should glue it to a cufflink.

11:08

pankkake: it's been done

11:08

lol

11:08

make it into a prince albert.

11:08

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/3-Bitcoin-Chocolate-Gold-Foil-Coins-NO-BTC-VALUE-Casascius-1-Liberty-Coin-Bonus-/281218761544?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4179f1c348&_uhb=1

11:08

3 Bitcoin Chocolate Gold Foil Coins NO BTC Value Casascius $1 Liberty Coin Bonus | eBay

11:08

haha

11:08

bitcoin PA ring

11:08

omfg, i have the best idea ever!

11:08

"what

11:08

's backing this?"

11:08

make little btc addresses and put them into lolipops

11:08

sell the lolis

11:08

for btc.

11:08

"200 pounds of muscle and sinew"

11:08

bitcoin pasties?

11:08

i got a few of those 1 btc ones empty and full, maybe its time for the market to have em

11:09

you can win anywhere between 0.001 and 1 btc

11:09

the thing sells for 0.01 or we

11:09

kako, the going rate seems to be 140-160usd, regardless of denomination

11:09

hm

11:09

i better wait till cas dude is in jail

11:09

they will go for 1600 then

11:09

good idea.

11:09

ah, i don't think he's gonna go to jail

11:09

mp will your lollipop factory be all nude women to prevent theft?

11:09

just get the clampers put on his biz

11:10

ThickAsThieves: the canadian mint does this

11:10

ThickAsThieves well... women may be inadequate. nude 12yos ?

11:10

better staff a dentist

11:10

btcloli

11:10

you can't let people with teeth into the building

11:10

taking puns to new highs/lows.

11:10

nude diabetics. if they lick they die?

11:10

LOLipops

11:11

kakobrekla: which full ones do you have?

11:11

dunno

11:11

1 btc

11:12

they are of golden color

11:12

year?

11:12

but 100% brass guaranteed!

11:12

.999 fine brass

11:12

ok ok

11:12

oh and one is also silver

11:13

5 btc empty

11:13

i bought them empty

11:13

ah

11:13

i'd like an empty 5 ;(

11:13

the full one is 2012

11:13

if that means anything

11:14

not a remarkable coin

11:14

FUCK YOU

11:14

heh!

11:14

lol i see trade is proceeding well

11:14

i'll give ya 0.03 for the 5

11:14

that like 3 bucks or something

11:14

30!

11:15

yeah like i said, 3

11:15

trailing zeroes are significant :(

11:15

im going to trade them for buttcoin pic

11:15

any takers?

11:15

oof, not w/ me

11:16

kakobrekla make it wives and girlfriends only

11:16

the buttcoin wags club

11:16

:D

11:18

ll

lol this chan is awesome

11:18

^

11:18

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11:18

!b 2

11:20

sometimes i wonder about my cat

11:20

http://imgur.com/8gp0nzq

11:20

imgur: the simple image sharer

11:20

did the Gold bitbets score any donations?

11:20

the cat needs a sleep mask

11:21

you see where paying dividends brings you to....

11:21

;p;

11:21

she does

11:21

i'm just interested kako

11:22

for the drama

11:22

i dont know

11:22

lets see if the forum heats up

11:22

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-12-05/china-s-pboc-bans-financial-companies-from-bitcoin-transactions.html

11:22

China Bans Financial Companies From Bitcoin Transactions - Bloomberg

11:22

shat's gold bitbets?

11:22

*what

11:23

nubbins you missed the great crash Dec 5th, 2013

11:23

of

11:24

jurov` the gold vs btc price bet

11:25

anyway wouldnt publishing such info prematurely be sketchy

11:25

what if the late bet was 24 mio btc

11:25

everyone on this chan would buy bbet

11:25

with ltc

11:25

heh

11:25

i suppose

11:26

i can wait

11:26

if there's drama

11:26

itll find you

11:26

drama is hard to get these days

11:27

diff is insane.

11:27

tat, guess i slept through it

~ 18 minutes ~

11:46

huh

11:46

https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=COG.F

11:46

https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=COG.F2

11:46

sigh

11:47

http://www.recognizethisblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/floodgates.jpg

11:48

ll

hmm whats the KENXPL one

11:49

hmm

11:49

odd

11:49

didnt even bother with a description on that one :)

11:49

ah

11:49

kenilworth

11:49

word

11:49

some sort of diamondcoin mining operation

11:49

;p

11:49

lol pull labcoin, add kenilworth

11:49

:P

11:49

haha

11:49

labcoin is still there :P

11:50

for now

11:50

market cap 3 btc

11:52

;;buy 80000 usd

11:52

(buy [--long] <amount> <thing> [at|@] <priceperunit> <otherthing> [<notes>]) -- Logs a buy order for <amount> units of <thing>, at a price of <price> per unit, in units of <otherthing>. Use the optional <notes> field to put in any special notes. <price> may include an arithmetical expression, and {(mtgox|bitstamp)(ask|bid|last|high|low|avg)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, last, high, (1 more message)

11:53

:(

11:53

;;market buy 80000

11:53

This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 26053.649 bitcoins, for a total of 344391906.6772 USD and take the price to 1000000000.0000. | Data vintage: 112.7465 seconds

11:53

;;market buy 80

11:53

A market order to buy 80 bitcoins right now would take 86200.7744 USD and would take the last price up to 1085.9990 USD, resulting in an average price of 1077.5097 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 128.2626 seconds

11:53

close enough :)

11:53

yup, thanks :)

11:54

;;market buy 80 usd

11:54

(market buy [--usd] [--market <market>] <value>) -- Calculate the effect on the market depth of a market buy order of <value> bitcoins. If <market> is provided, uses that exchange. Default is mtgox. If '--usd' option is given, <value> denotes the size of the order in USD.

11:54

http://www.businessinsider.com/baml-initiates-coverage-on-bitcoin-2013-12

11:54

BAML Initiates Coverage On Bitcoin - Business Insider

11:54

so close! :)

11:54

;;market buy --usd 80000

11:54

A market order to buy 80000.0000 USD worth of bitcoins right now would buy 74.290258 bitcoins and would take the last price up to 1085.9990 USD, resulting in an average price of 1076.8572 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 181.6505 seconds

11:54

there it is

11:54

ah

11:55

"our fair value analysis implies a maximum market capitalization of Bitcoin of $15bn"

11:56

would love to see that report

11:57

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34479998 BTC [-]

11:58

its already basically at 15bn?

11:58

so they're claiming this is the max?

11:58

more or less

11:58

they said $1300

11:59

"Breaking: Largest, most authoritarian government in the world manages to slightly inconvenience Bitcoin for an hour or so."

11:59

jamespeerless, the article basically says "We intend to buy bitcoins, please don't rally til we have."

11:59

:P

12:01

a commenter: "If you found this article useful, please donate BtC (preferably before they become even more worthless). 1HjVaQegDCoDrGgW"

12:01

BtC

12:02

bit the coin

12:02

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33299795 BTC [-]

12:02

ThickAsThieves: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-05/bofaml-sees-bitcoin-fair-value-1300 here are some parts of the report

12:02

you know what "bit coin" means in slovenian

12:02

to be a horse.

12:03

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33299795 BTC [-]

12:03

a coin backed by horses would work wonders in romania

12:03

well the report already is retarded

12:03

it starts with US usage stats

12:04

US personal consumption expenditures totaled $11trn in 2012

12:04

Household checking deposits and cash totaled $0.7trn in 2012

12:04

Dividing the former by the latter, we get 0.07 (which we will refer to as velocity from now on)

12:04

"Given Bitcoin does not pay any interest and that there are no investment instruments (equities or bonds) that are denominated in Bitcoin"

12:04

cause i closed XBOND, sorry Wall St

12:06

"We don’t have an informed view on this subject..."

12:06

that's better

12:06

(taken a bit out of context)

12:07

The horses backed coin would work equally as well in Somalia and Croatia.

12:07

"Bottom-line: maximum market capitalization for Bitcoin’s as a store of value = $5bn"

12:07

it all seems random

12:07

i guess they gotta start somewhere

12:08

now some other firm can be like nah, here's a better way

12:08

true

12:08

the irony being that fair market value is so easy to find

12:08

hmm

12:08

;;ticker

12:08

MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1064.69472, Best ask: 1078.787, Bid-ask spread: 14.09228, Last trade: 1060.13587, 24 hour volume: 56785.86176932, 24 hour low: 870.001, 24 hour high: 1240.0, 24 hour vwap: 1076.51875

12:08

il neige aujourd'hui :(

12:09

pourquoi la frimousse triste ?

12:09

je n'aime pas les temps froid ;(

12:10

je m'appele TAT

12:10

*appelle

12:10

c'est un super lel

12:10

oui

12:10

nous allons donner pankkake un mal de tete ;/

12:10

heh

12:11

I've been often confused on the number of P and L on appelle. appelle, appel, but apeller

12:11

pankkake, ça s'utilise encore "frimousse" de nos jours ?

12:12

ça ne s'utilise pas, on utilise "smiley", but it felt silly using an English word when purposely using French

12:12

"Criminals setting "fair" value to the Magic the Gathering card version of currency. That's fucking rich."

12:13

not as rich as all of us

12:13

AM

12:13

I

12:13

RITE?!

12:13

lol

12:13

srsly, just cut the top off a faberger egg so my cat wouldn't have to drink out of a dish like some kind of fucking prole

12:14

lol

12:16

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 21 @ 0.0226 = 0.4746 BTC [+]

12:17

gangsta rap should promote bitcoin. too bad casacsius didn't make bitcoin pendants

12:17

l'utilisation de mots anglais dans une phrase française semble un peu bizarre

12:18

les québécois ne le font pas, mais les français si

12:18

although i suppose you feel the same way when you read "well, folks, let's go to the restaurant for lunch!"

12:18

is anyone doing just-dice graphs like there used to be for satoshi dice ?

12:18

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.0226 = 0.1356 BTC [+]

12:18

les québécois n'est pas français ;p

12:18

Americans who use French words to appear smart (redditors) are funny

12:18

c'est sûr

12:19

pankkake: around the time of the "freedom fries" thing, i read an article where the guy said we should stop using ALL french loanwords

12:19

he then proceeded to cross out all french words in his article and replace them

12:19

good luck with that

12:19

i know right?

12:19

took him three lines to describe the place where he would eat

12:20

"Restau... no, caf... no, uh..."

12:20

the french embassy had no comment, except to say that french fries were invented in belgium

12:20

restaurant in American = mcdonald's

12:21

pankkake> "Given Bitcoin does not pay any interest and that there are no investment instruments (equities or bonds) that are denominated in Bitcoin" << herp.

12:21

given that retards discussing bitcoin have no clue, we predict continued drama and lulz.

12:22

dunno, my bitcoins have paid plenty of interest

12:22

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 132 @ 0.00299598 = 0.3955 BTC [+] {2}

12:22

maybe they bought the wrong kind

12:22

maybe they bought the wrong color.

12:22

got themselves some of jurov's milky nigger.txt coins

12:23

I have a fiat account that gives me a few percent per year. I used to watch it and move money it/out etc.

12:23

bitcoin kinda changed my persective

12:23

-typos

12:23

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02485399 = 0.1243 BTC [+] {3}

12:23

there's still no ObamaCoin!

12:23

asdsfdsfgfddgfdsg

12:23

leel

12:23

<Apocalyptic> pankkake, ça s'utilise encore "frimousse" de nos jours ? << i was thinking. fucking ordinateur and "frimousse"

12:24

ordinateur is a brutal word

12:24

I like ordinateur !

12:24

internet words are always tricky

12:24

frimousse is cute, *too* cute

12:25

when i did web dev, we'd have to send message bundles off to get translated

12:25

it's cute in the sense of 30yo unshaved woman that can't poledance pestering her cuckolded "bf" on xmas eve.

12:25

you'd have people translating the word "click", "email", etc multiple ways in the same document

12:26

and of course half the translators were quebecois and the other half were acadiens

12:27

and just now, i learned that half a million acadiens moved to louisiana.

12:27

huh.

12:27

and just NOW, i'm realizing that's where the word "cajun" comes from

12:28

lol

12:28

acadjuien

12:28

seems pretty obvious

12:28

my cajun neighbors, good people.

12:28

resistant to the governments nonsense. very resistent.

12:28

well, that's france for ya

12:29

er, the french

12:30

i'm sure pankkake is preparing to throw his wooden shoes into some gears as we speak

12:30

the French worship the State

12:30

they might not like the government, they like the State

12:30

this is true

12:30

nod

12:30

ridiculous, but true

12:30

then the cajuns have moved far enough away from the french, thank jesus.

12:31

quebecois are the same way

12:31

truly I have no malice for the french, it's conditioned into me.

12:31

see for reference, last year's casseroles protests

12:31

well, governments fail to do anything good every year, but you know, the next one is going to be great!

12:32

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oAJBhNtr04

12:32

Casseroles 'Pots and Pans' Montreal Protest Video - YouTube

12:32

but I have to admit I like the current protests

12:32

man, that got me so fucking angry last year

12:32

SO goddamn angry

12:34

non a la loi speciale!

12:34

so seriously, did that fortune guy ever manage to short btc ?

12:35

"À toujours vouloir bien paraître, je crois que le Parti Québécois enfoncera un autre clou dans son cercueil. Le Parti Québécois semble servir jour après jour les intérêts des riches avec leurs visées néolibérales anglo-saxonnes. Les assistés sociaux, les étudiants, les francophones et maintenant les travailleurs pâtiront. "

12:35

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 77 @ 0.00299599 = 0.2307 BTC [+]

12:35

holy shit, the french speaking canadians imagine they are going to be MORE socialist than the anglo-saxons ?!

12:35

lmao.

12:36

the PQ sucks

12:36

that aside.

12:36

these people actually believe what's wrong with the us etc is that they are stepping too much on the throat of the proletariat ?!

12:36

nobody can believe that

12:37

ah

12:37

in that context, anglo-saxon essentially should be translated as "bogeyman"

12:37

or capital-O Outsider, w/e

12:37

dude, how about no futher "dignite" of any kind for five years.

12:37

then we see.

12:37

néolibéral too

12:37

^

12:38

who the fuck heard of dignity for the poor.

12:38

we have « ultralibéral » in France

12:38

that's why they're poor, to be humble.

12:38

the PQ thought they had it knocked

12:38

fucking upside world.

12:38

huge protests, PQ to the rescue! repeal the special law!

12:38

then they realized the population wasn't finished with being upset

12:39

gesell

mtgox split order javascript console script, if interested http://pastebin.com/tESPiTvg pretty simple

12:39

pauline marois is way worse than jean charest

12:39

this guy... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348468.msg3838759#msg3838759

12:40

getting so tired of all is babbling like he is in-the-know and some kind of soothsayer

12:40

but dude, you're missing the human element

12:40

thats cuz i am robot

12:41

assbot is my wife

12:41

ThickAsThieves if the dork you were quoting earlier can opine about what the mkt cap of bitcoin should be,

12:41

then why can't random forum retard ?

12:41

fuck me in the ass

12:41

exactly same quality/material.

12:41

ThickAsThieves: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wagkBedzwI8

12:42

ah, wait, ^^ hopes restored

12:42

ThickAsThieves: isn't $5BB market cap only midcap at best

12:42

good thing you keep backups

12:42

basically they want to paint their obsessive passive aggression as some kind humanitarian effort or something

12:42

assbot, grease, or no?

12:43

no grease for your size

12:43

heh

12:43

i saw that coming

12:43

nice assist i guess

12:43

i'm imagining a mechanical iris closing

12:43

its what couples do

12:43

teamwork!

12:44

selfdeprication facilitation

12:44

complete.

12:45

|#####################| 100%

12:48

8================D 100%

12:49

your balls are small

12:49

what's the emoticon for vagina dentata ?

12:50

Install Failed. Would you like to check Windows Update for a solution?

12:50

heh

12:50

{¦} ?

12:50

( {|} )

12:51

that looks more like himen bifenestratus

12:51

heh

12:51

pankkake draw a bear trap

12:51

tat warp traveling

12:52

( { XXX } )

12:52

yes!

12:54

now he pm's me saying i'm not consumer focused ...

12:54

been in marketing for like most of my life...

12:56

I'd reason with the guy if I didn;t think it'd result it point by point epic messages where he never gives in

12:57

isn't this the dork that was falling all over himself with mpoe-pr earlier ?

12:57

dunno

12:57

he was on ActM board

12:58

oh yeah

12:58

about SMG right?

12:58

haha well that's fitting

12:58

yeah thats him

12:58

oh, hence in my ignore list :D

12:58

i dun recall about what.

12:58

but i recall greyhawk's comment that his avatar is well chosen

12:58

i had him ignored but now he's all up in Neo's business

12:58

anyone in that board should be scammer tagged anyway

12:58

pankkake anyone not in my wot is scammer tagged by default.

12:59

yeah I figured that one

13:01

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 65 @ 0.0077 = 0.5005 BTC {2}

13:01

is 7C a scam?

13:01

pircea_momescu

pankkake 7c is a scam !

13:01

see, that works

13:02

lololololol

13:02

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 37 @ 0.0077 = 0.2849 BTC {2}

13:02

"I have searched Google and I haven't found an answer to what it is am looking for. So here is the deal am looking for a MMORPG (not FPS) that I and a friend can play without the need of putting any money on it. It should be completely free (no one time buy, no need to put money to buy higher gear, no need to upgrade the account to open some other stuff and bag limits.) Also prefer if the game isn't from perfect world

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international (since I have had bad history with there employees)."

13:02

i like internet people.

13:02

broiled.

13:02

there employees :(

13:03

"i want good shit for free and a blowjob"

13:03

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 1111 @ 0.0077 = 8.5547 BTC {3}

13:03

he prefers here employees

13:03

dont these free things exist anyway?

13:03

they do

13:03

like private WoW servers

13:03

or such

13:03

it's just not good shit

13:04

ThickAsThieves those don't have here employees.

13:04

ah

13:04

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 50 @ 0.0077 = 0.385 BTC

13:04

you still gotta buy wow tho

13:04

it's like... total complete bonehead. employees don't need to be paid.

13:04

this guy wants a great game that he can play for free

13:04

NO ADS THO

13:04

AND employees

13:04

no riffraff like ThickAsThieves mind. people with better consumer focus.

13:04

i think Candy Crush is free

13:04

and on Facebook

13:05

[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14995 BTC [+]

13:05

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 1005 @ 0.0077 = 7.7385 BTC {2}

13:05

[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] [PAID] 2.28033270 BTC to 5`067`406 shares, 45 satoshi per share

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heh

13:05

well, "free"

13:06

i'll inspect your wallet, credit card receipts, and health records for free

13:06

"Any Capital raised by Havelock Investments on behalf of this Fund will be placed in escrow. The raised capital will only be distributed to the Company based on a per performance basis agreed by Havelock Investments and the Company. In the event that the Company is no longer able to continue operations, all of the remaining capital in escrow will be refunded to the Unit holders equally."

13:06

7C ^

13:06

[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.15 = 0.6 BTC [+]

13:06

huh, interesting

13:06

so basically every mistake that can be made will have to be made

13:06

a well.

13:06

Mistakes?

13:06

yes.

13:06

Fill me in

13:06

like releasing funds to them?

13:07

well, it's simple : if you don't trust the company don't let it list.

13:07

i;m too lazy to go into the endless debate as to why stupidity doesn't work. i'll just state the general point and shrug.

13:07

but that's not how the new Havelock makes money ;)

13:09

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 10005 @ 0.0077 = 77.0385 BTC {2}

13:09

the new havelock is not going to be making any money.

13:10

Mhm...i can't follow,what has changed at havelock?

13:11

Moving to panama aside.

13:11

floodgates.png

13:11

something like 50 funds waiting in the wings?

13:11

50 shitfunds

13:11

orly

13:11

Really? Where's the announcement on that? >.>

13:12

on their own IPO, they stated that

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people are actually buying this 7C shit?

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@_@

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prospectus, page 4

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adding 12 new funds each quarter

13:14

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 10000 @ 0.0077 = 77 BTC

13:14

Panama says: Give ID, list anything

13:15

the new info is also that CFIG is mostly Panama Fund guys

13:16

ah, i remember cfig

13:16

i drew a little diagram way back

13:16

it had a bunch of question marks

13:17

oh, that was you :)

13:17

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 2012 @ 0.0077 = 15.4924 BTC {4}

13:17

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=269191.msg2940289#msg2940289

13:17

:D

13:17

[HAVELOCK] Crypto Financial (CFIG) Official Thread

13:17

xbt, how quaint

13:18

that's essentially what virtex's debit cards do, but with automatic conversion of btc to fiat

13:19

also, my trust link is green now?!

13:19

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 1978 @ 0.0077 = 15.2306 BTC {2}

13:20

I see 7C is pretty much only pulling in large orders

13:20

And almost round... like 10000 > 10000 > 2000 > 2000

13:22

Mostly what happened so far

13:23

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 20 @ 0.0077 = 0.154 BTC

13:27

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 25 @ 0.0077 = 0.1925 BTC

13:33

anyuone here ever tried rift ?

13:33

how do you have time to play all these mmo's?

13:33

"research"

13:33

jkjk

13:33

mircea_popescu: the tabletop rpg?

13:33

apparently there's a new pc version

13:33

or maybe unrelated i dunno ?

13:34

Appears to be unrelated. I haven't played it.

13:35

I played Rift

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in the early days

13:36

it was enjoyable enough

13:36

I was thinking of "Rifts" anyhow.

13:37

MP you should just buy Rift

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and bitcoinify it

13:38

would play a settlers of catan themed btc game

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or a btc themed settlers of catan, not sure

13:39

i'd also play a dota btc game

13:40

seems that format is pretty popular these days

13:40

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 90 @ 0.0077 = 0.693 BTC

13:41

you could actually probably completely re-skin catan to have a btc theme

13:41

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 26 @ 0.0077 = 0.2002 BTC {2}

13:42

ThickAsThieves i might, but are they selling it ?

13:42

well i know they went to a fee model

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free*

13:43

so they cant be doing well

13:43

hey, some of the best things are free

13:43

and everyone has a price right?

13:44

like google, and that guy who offered to help me install that btc security software on my computer

13:44

unless you think there's some sort of catch to using both of those things?!?!?!

13:44

ok, that may be, but... well...

13:45

have deadweasel get them in here

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:)

13:45

deadweasel baby, can you ferret out the owners of rift ?

13:46

Gameplay requires: (1) INTERNET CONNECTION (SOLD SEPARATELY), AND (2) ACCEPTANCE OF LICENSE AND USAGE TERMS.

13:46

you suppose anyone accused them of scamming because they don't also provide you with internet ?

13:46

"but i vbought the game fair and square!!11 why can't i play it on my toaster!11"

13:46

pretty much the definition of scam

13:46

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 15 @ 0.0077 = 0.1155 BTC

13:47

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=N9LlbuAeqlc#t=22

13:47

2010 WWE Hall of Fame: Million Dollar Man - YouTube

13:47

hahahaha

13:47

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 8750 @ 0.0077 = 67.375 BTC {3}

13:47

theodore dibiase!

13:48

was harder to find him saying his catchphrase than i thought itd be

13:48

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 6000 @ 0.0077 = 46.2 BTC {2}

13:49

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves , I'm at work, give me a general starting link and I'll see.

13:49

dafuq is rift anyway? a game?

13:50

ThickAsThieves: you know ultimate warrior does knife painting now?

13:51

deadweasel, Rift is a major game, you'd need to start with the studio probly

13:51

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 63 @ 0.00299699 = 0.1888 BTC [+]

13:52

really there's like 0 chance theyll come in here

13:52

http://www.ultimatewarrior.com/blog/

13:52

unless they already are!

13:52

Warrior's Machete

13:52

There's only one quality IPO coming up. Calm your horses and the random ideas IPOs.

13:52

weapons of wisdom

13:52

lol

13:52

[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1276 @ 0.00011042 = 0.1409 BTC [+] {3}

13:52

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00078219 = 16.0349 BTC [-]

13:53

Ideas are 2 bucks a dozen, not 5 million each

13:53

deadweasel http://www.riftgame.com/en/play-for-free/

13:53

no rush whatever, if you manage it at all you're a miracle worker anyway

13:53

warrior's stuff isnt horrible

13:53

there's better

13:54

http://www.warriorgallery.com/Pages/Works.html

13:54

Works.

13:54

ThickAsThieves well if it's f2p it ain't that major namean ?

13:55

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.344767 = 0.6895 BTC [+]

13:56

http://www.warriorgallery.com/Pages/WARRIOR_Van%20Gogh%20Skull_24x36.html

13:57

Sitting Bull Blue

13:57

i like to imagine him painting these with a huge rambo knife, rather than a palette knife

13:57

that one isnt bad either

13:57

but paying that much for a print is silly

13:58

that's an original, not a print

13:58

oh it said also available in other size

13:58

so i assumed

13:58

ah, yeah, i think the other size is a print

13:58

i know many artists try to sell prints for ridic prices

13:58

oh. nope.

13:58

tat, i have much to say on the subject of prints

13:59

do you do giclee?

13:59

no, and in fact, i don't consider giclees "prints" in the traditional sense of the word

14:00

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33800001 BTC [-]

14:00

they're closer to color photocopies than anything

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33800001 BTC [-]

14:01

[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 418 @ 0.000479 = 0.2002 BTC [-]

14:01

producing a print takes skill and effort, and each one is usually a unique piece

14:01

producing a giclee involves making sure your ink cartridges are topped up, and clicking a mouse

14:01

i always assumed giclees did color matching

14:02

oh, sure, sometimes. but that's still just dicking around on the computer

14:02

hehe

14:02

a $250 epson can produce beautiful CMYK giclee prints

14:02

but they're worth the cost of the paper and inks, plus maybe $20

14:03

to compare a giclee to a linocut or a serigraph is truly taking the piss

14:03

nothing worse than seeing people selling small "prints" for $50 each

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in an edition of 250

14:04

to me, i'd either want the original, or a good-enough print to look pretty on the wall

14:04

and then finding out they're fuckin giclees

14:04

in-between seems a waste

14:04

nod

14:05

take a linocut, for example

14:05

it doesn't exist as a piece of art until it's printed

14:05

and each print is unique, as the linoleum squishes around and wears down

14:05

http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/one-third-of-kenyans-now-have-a-bitcoin-wallet

14:05

One Third of Kenyans Now Have a Bitcoin Wallet | Motherboard

14:05

a giclee is just a copy of an original

14:05

Wonder how long til the Serbians get on board with their own bitcoin wallets.

14:05

compared to linocut, monotype, serigraph, etc, where the prints ARE originals

14:06

people have a lot of trouble with that point

14:06

well the concept is that people want to know the artist stood there and made the thing

14:06

not a amachine

14:06

nod

14:06

or at the very least, had a hand in its production

14:07

meh

14:07

often the artist and the printer work hand-in-hand

14:07

pressing all teh buttons

14:07

moving all the mouses

14:07

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33332 BTC [-]

14:07

working with artists = printer's nightmare

14:07

^ agreed

14:07

welcome to my life, heh

14:07

altho our clients are generally pretty easygoing

14:07

I have no money, but I want 5 prints of 50 of my pieces!

14:07

how much?

14:08

or same request but for greeting cards

14:08

heh

14:08

"buy your own printer" i'd tell them

14:09

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 13 @ 0.0077 = 0.1001 BTC

14:09

we explicitly do not own a color printer for this very reason

14:09

well. we have a printer that can print color (6 tanks!)

14:09

but it's all loaded with super-opaque pigment inks

14:09

for printing films

14:10

all black

14:10

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 13 @ 0.0077 = 0.1001 BTC

14:11

the best jobs are where we're given free reign over the art

14:11

my mom used to work painting separations of textile patterns onto acetate plastic sheets by hand

14:11

"we want some posters made, here's a list of things we like: interrobangs, lasers, robots, etc"

14:11

ah, that's thankless work :)

14:11

carpal tunnel in both hands, AND the foot version

14:11

nod, my wrists aren't great

14:12

years of poor computer posture combined with manual printing

14:12

[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.155 BTC [-]

14:12

she'd have like 20 sheets layered over eachother in one brown blob when done

14:12

i've sepped by hand before

14:12

then they got computers

14:12

generally just use gimp with a wacom tablet these days

14:14

our usual process is pencil -> ink -> gimp -> inkscape -> illustrator -> acetate -> silkscreens -> paper

14:14

uh

14:14

uh

14:14

gimp

14:14

huh huh

14:14

huhuh he said gimp

14:14

heh

14:15

and really, we only use illustrator for printing films

14:15

would be nice if we didn't need it

14:15

but inkscape doesn't support CMYK print output (srsly)

14:17

ThickerThanThiev

i'm a coreldraw fan

14:17

ThickerThanThiev

great for that kinda work

14:17

never used it

14:17

ThickerThanThiev

it's canadian!

14:17

i mean, inkscape itself is great for vector work

14:17

it just barfs at the output step

14:18

so we shelled out $800 for illustrator

14:18

it takes adusting for a long-time Illustrator user

14:18

and another $500 for 3rd party epson drivers

14:19

but the keystrokes and tools and like everything for vector editing in corel is just better imo

14:19

ah

14:19

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 30 @ 0.0077 = 0.231 BTC

14:19

yeah, illo is powerful, but most of it is still beyond me

14:19

the image trace options in cs6 are fuckin great tho

14:19

http://www.softwareforscreenprinters.com/accurip

14:19

Accurip

14:20

what was it we used to rip, oh yeah Onyx

14:20

so expensive

14:20

nod

14:20

rips are fucking LOOT

14:20

14:20

tried to get away without using one for so long

14:20

a list of junk u.s. gov. considers politically interesting.

14:20

such a waste of effort

14:21

i almost wept when i saw the first set of separations accurip spit out

14:21

felt like i'd discovered bitcoin

14:21

hehe

14:21

who exactly from rift do you want to talk to?

14:21

betcha every luggage trunk at every u.s. airport contains something on this list.

14:21

a pr douche?

14:21

accountant?

14:21

no

14:21

an owner

14:21

a c-level exec

14:21

mutherfucker

14:22

ha, wish me luck

14:22

he want to buy the game afterall

14:22

gl ;p

14:22

and just what do they want to talk with you about? :)

14:22

i can't make it up if I havne't followed the story.

14:22

anyway, people have no idea what a pain pre-press work is

14:23

"yeah my artwork is ready to go"

14:23

we do now, nubs

14:23

not even converted to spot colors

14:23

etc

14:23

the thing about "graphic designers" that fucking pisses me off

14:23

is that none of them understand print

14:23

lol

14:23

"ahh, the guy who prints it can figure that out"

14:23

i never hired college-trained designers

14:24

and then the poor client pays me $xx/h to recreate the goddamn image from scratch

14:24

fukn useless

14:24

nod

14:24

no concept of anything

14:24

72dpi backgrounds

14:24

"it looks good on my screen"

14:24

die in a fire

14:24

file prep is truly an advanced skill

14:25

it's a completely separate skillset

14:25

just rename it to niggers.txt

14:25

lol

14:25

"how would you like niggers.txt screened?"

14:25

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 5000 @ 0.0077 = 38.5 BTC

14:25

61 lpi, 22.5 deg angle, please

14:25

i'm still learning

14:25

only discovered "overprint fill/stroke" recently

14:26

"i want all niggers.txt screened out of my t=shirt, please."

14:26

and the implications thereof

14:26

i once printed seps for an album cover on the newspaper's hardware where i wored

14:26

whored

14:26

hehe

14:26

worked*

14:27

i belive whored is the right term

14:27

what did they call those projectors they used to use for seps?

14:27

i cant remember

14:27

big fuckers

14:27

not orthographic

14:28

i can't remember either. rad tho.

14:30

would love to get into letterpress

14:30

but that's an expensive setup

14:30

and i'd want to be able to make my own plates

14:30

which makes it a REALLY expensive setup

14:30

people will pay pretty well for it, but way too custom for my patience again

14:31

yeah, there's basically zero market outside of wedding invitations too

14:31

brides as clients, lol

14:32

one time, that's all it took me

14:32

insanity

14:32

bridezilla

14:32

one of our printers works days at a wedding planning place

14:32

she does not enjoy it

14:33

in the end i was hand-scoring and trimming corners one by one

14:33

"yeah, auhhmmm, i want flowers like pandora vanderpump had at her wedding... but i don't want them to, like, cost a lot"

14:33

hand drawn maps to the location

14:34

custom lettering

14:34

bleh

14:34

nod

14:34

we've silkscreened some wedding invites

14:34

doing some now actually

14:34

6 spot colors ;(

14:34

(sorry channel, I'm just about bored with the print talk) :)

14:35

http://pinkeyeprints.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/wedding-invite-2a.png

14:35

heh

14:35

i'm about done too

14:35

you just got him wet

14:36

;;ticker

14:36

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14:36

try harder China!

14:36

870-1240

14:36

pretty calm day

14:36

:P

14:36

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 61 @ 0.00318637 = 0.1944 BTC [-] {7}

14:37

;;premium btcn mtgox

14:37

Premium of BTCChina over MtGox is currently -9.57021326982 %.

14:37

china is asleep at the wheel.

14:38

everybody ran to china to arbitrage and drove the price down :)

14:38

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/chicken-in-turkey-mary-brown-s-aims-for-istanbul-1.2452205

14:38

Chicken in Turkey: Mary Brown's aims for Istanbul - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News

14:39

not Constantinople

14:39

some years ago, mary brown's released this new sandwich called the Big Mary

14:39

huge ad campaign

14:40

some guy thought a play on "hail caesar" would be a good idea

14:40

massive posters in bus shelters everywhere depicting a chicken sandwich

14:40

"HAIL MARY" in foot-high letters

14:40

catholic church became very upset

14:40

shocked that the mother of god would be compared to a chicken sandwich!

14:40

and so the posters came back down

14:41

shoulda used prints

14:41

i lel'd

14:41

catholic church is very snooty about such things

14:41

we've actually been experimenting with silkscreening posters for taping to poles

14:42

so how's the printing office going ?

14:42

great, A+++, would do business with again

14:42

http://imgur.com/KMj2YW7

14:42

imgur: the simple image sharer

14:43

^ surprisingly resilient to the elements

14:43

lol

14:43

we bought a 36"x1000' roll of red kraft paper, great idea

14:45

anyway, shit to do. peace

14:46

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00299699 = 0.1498 BTC [+]

14:49

[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.165 BTC [+]

14:56

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 50 @ 0.0077 = 0.385 BTC

14:56

#python-pdx

15:00

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19534 @ 0.00078614 = 15.3565 BTC [+]

15:11

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 333 @ 0.00299799 = 0.9983 BTC [+]

15:12

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 129 @ 0.0077 = 0.9933 BTC

15:13

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 5000 @ 0.0077 = 38.5 BTC

15:15

What's your standard response to "It's a ponzi!"?

15:16

you mean pyramid scheme?

15:16

heh, nope

15:16

Although that'd be more accurate. You mean, that's your response?

15:16

tough to be a ponzi without somebody running the whole thing.

15:17

i thought the standard respinse IS it's a ponzi

15:17

pircea_momescu

ThickAsThieves it's is a ponzi !

15:17

somebody is typically holding all the money in a ponzi. who would that be?

15:18

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8955 @ 0.00078889 = 7.0645 BTC [+]

15:18

It's Mircea innit? :D

15:19

he's got all the bitcoins :) somebody would have to have all the fiat for it to be a ponzi.

15:20

[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.16899999 BTC [+]

15:20

Ha, true.

15:22

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33809999 BTC [+]

15:26

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 1000 @ 0.0077 = 7.7 BTC

15:31

it's a prizzi!

15:36

asciilifeform, mircea_popescu: what's stupid about the NTRU encryption scheme?

15:36

(assuming there's something dumb and that you two'd know)

15:44

[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.16899999 BTC [+]

15:45

TomServo: it's not a pyramid scheme, it's a triangular opportunity

15:46

haha, I like it!

15:46

i didn't come up with it, i think it comes from the simpsons

15:46

cryptomnesia ftw

15:46

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 475 @ 0.0077 = 3.6575 BTC

15:48

What is the best place to short BTC?

15:48

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00079052 = 2.2925 BTC [+]

15:49

kleeck_: you could buy some puts on mpex

15:51

kleeck_: MPEx.

15:57

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33330001 BTC [-]

15:57

or sell some calls if you're sufficiently capitalized.

15:58

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3333 BTC [-]

15:59

[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 5844 @ 0.00048987 = 2.8628 BTC [+] {4}

15:59

or on coinbr.com (mpex broker)

15:59

benkay: i've been working on my financial education a lot recently still lots to learn, but isn't it much more dangerous to write options than it is to buy them ?

15:59

the way i understand it you can lose a lot but your profit is capped by the price at which you sell the option

16:00

[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1417 @ 0.00048994 = 0.6942 BTC [+] {3}

16:00

yes, but you profit sooner

16:00

at a higher price that is

16:00

unlike futures where your profit varies linearly with the spot price of the underlying at maturity/expiration

16:00

amirite?

16:01

http://i.investopedia.com/inv/articles/site/img12.png

16:01

mike_c: well, i guess it's up to the party who writes the option to come up with the right price

16:02

[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2800 @ 0.00048999 = 1.372 BTC [+] {2}

16:02

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 97 @ 0.0031821 = 0.3087 BTC [-]

16:03

got myself "Options, futures, and other derivatives" doing the problems, I feel like I'm back in college xD

16:03

mike_c: see, that's the kind of graphs I want to really understand by coming up with them the hard way :-)

16:03

pricing options is an open problem, yes.

16:04

the MPOE bot knows something about it hehe

16:04

i value learning by experience, but the p/l graphs are definitely something you should understand before trading options.

16:05

i'm not touching options, and i certainly won't write them

16:06

if you really want to understand options, write a pricing algo.

16:07

[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.155 BTC [-]

16:09

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 221 @ 0.0077 = 1.7017 BTC

16:09

benkay: lattice crypto is interesting but (relatively) poorly studied; plenty of opportunity for fukkupy

16:09

and the pubkeys tend to end up hefty (64kB+.)

16:14

i'd like to see a shor-resistant cryptocurrency.

16:15

kinda the only altcoin that makes practical sense.

16:16

benkay: there are several hypothetical altcoins that would make practical sense.

16:16

just so that when cold wallets start emptying themselves those who keep their eyes on these things have another class of cryptocoin to move into.

16:16

say, my crackpot 'turingcoin' (arbitrary calculation for workfunction.)

16:17

benkay: i guess i'll need to understand how to model volatility before writing one

16:18

davout the main difference between options and futures is that a correctly implemented future allows physical delivery,

16:18

which keeps the market honest.

16:18

[HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.051 = 0.153 BTC [-]

16:18

can you elaborate on the keeping the market honest part ?

16:18

absent that, futures are awkwardly skinned options.

16:19

and on the awkwardly skinned options part ? :-)

16:19

davout yeah. if you buy the right to receive livestock in the future, as long as you can't actually take the livestock

16:19

you're stuck realising whatever price whoever sold you the contract decides

16:19

ifthey say livestock is 10 dollars that's that.

16:19

if however you CAN take the livestock, then they are well incentivised to not declare livestock worth 10 dollars, cause you'll just take it.

16:19

when you close your position you mean?

16:19

ya i see

16:19

self-emptying coldwallets, should they appear, would almost certainly be explained by compromised electronics (airgap that isn't) rather than QM sorcery.

16:20

at all points.

16:20

finance is terrifyingly interesting

16:20

an option resolves this problem by trading on the spot. futures trade on their own "implied" spot, and so you can easily be stuck

16:20

learning about it is quite enjoyable

16:21

you lost me there

16:21

(for instance it's convincingly arguing atm that the large banks are keeping rthe gold price very low throuigh this exact trickery)

16:21

whereas if you take posession of the livestock, you can sell them for the market price.

16:22

davout the price at which options settle is not related to the price at which options trade, in the sense these are independent values.

16:22

the price at which futures settle is QUITE the price at which they trade.

16:22

but the spot is still the spot right? i mean, it reflects the actual price of things? or am i missing something obvious here?

16:22

asciilifeform: the first set of course

16:23

thje spot is the spot, but the actual price shall never be known.

16:23

haha

16:23

asciilifeform: i'm entertaining ideas about practical altcoin design

16:24

benkay: programmable workfunction (part of the protocol, in my concept) would give you some teeth against asic, etc.

16:24

why do you want " teeth against asic" ?

16:24

hey guys, where can I short the bitcoin?

16:24

mircea_popescu: if you're sitting on a warehouse full of fpga.

16:25

seems a silly way to design things

16:25

mircea_popescu: i'm at chapter 2 of my book, hopefully i'll grok moar and come up with better questions as i progress

16:25

or simply if you'd prefer a cryptocoin that doesn't degenerate into semiconductor plants as central banks

16:25

asciilifeform: examples: targeting fpga's; dynamic workfns (as you mentioned); sorcery resistance

16:25

davout enjoi.

16:25

davout: which book?

16:25

http://metro.co.uk/2013/12/04/romanian-farmville-gang-con-400000-from-government-with-fake-farms-4215956/

16:26

TomServo: http://www.amazon.fr/Options-Futures-Other-Derivatives-John/dp/0132777428

16:26

Thanks

16:26

feels like a good way to invest 100eur

16:27

ThickAsThieves: This is the UK onion right? *sigh*

16:28

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00299 = 0.299 BTC [-]

16:28

dub

asciilifeform: swapping them for guys with warehouses of pgas as central banks?

16:29

dub: naturally. i was reasoning from the point of view of the people who have them. they have an incentive.

16:31

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00317293 = 0.3173 BTC [-] {4}

16:35

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 20 @ 0.0077 = 0.154 BTC

16:38

http://www.coindesk.com/asic-miners-litecoin-soon/

16:39

http://pastebin.com/RRSPfDkp I get a PM a day about this stupid altcoin now :/

16:39

Hello I came across your giveaway thread at---https://bitcointalk - Pastebin.com

16:42

haha and they don't accept litecoin as payment

16:42

hey mircea_popescu what does anul 5 d.Tr. mean?

16:43

asciilifeform: i don't see how arbitrary work function helps. have you written something up on this? i'm missing the part where it keeps asics out of the game.

16:43

;;ud anul

16:43

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=anul | this is a mis-spelling of anal which could then lead to abuse by two bi-sexuals.

16:43

Urban Dictionary: anul

16:43

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 22 @ 0.0249409 = 0.5487 BTC [+] {3}

16:43

wut lel

16:43

like you said, governments can crank out a new asic in a matter of weeks..

16:43

benkay: Year 5, I think?

16:44

mike_c: not the U.S.. I mean, have you known the U.S. to get anything done in a matter of weeks?

16:44

asciilifeform said the nsa has a plant that does it

16:44

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 126 @ 0.02499999 = 3.15 BTC [+] {2}

16:44

well, that could in principle do it.

16:45

they can force Intel to do it

16:45

the point wouldn't be to wiggle out from under each new batch of asics

16:45

but to run a network with heterogeneous workfunctions.

16:48

i don't see how that prevents the semiconductor plants from being boss. they can still crank out the most work, regardless of what that work is.

16:48

unless its planting tomatoes or something.

16:54

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33809999 BTC [+]

16:56

so this forbes guy that wanted to short bitcoin so badly, ythink he knew about this china announcement?

16:58

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 166 @ 0.002995 = 0.4972 BTC [+]

16:58

shady shit

17:05

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=358242.0

17:05

it never ends

17:05

Next generation 14nm mining grid

17:08

"

17:08

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33805978 BTC [-]

17:08

We plan to harness what will soon be the largest and most efficient pool of hashing power in the world"

17:08

herpderpetc

17:08

i plan to fart a new ring for saturn

17:10

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33806979 = 0.6761 BTC [+]

17:10

I can finally have my ASIC phone?

17:10

and the floor tiles, are they in the works?

17:11

oh right it's the smartphone idea, lol. that's why I closed it the first time

17:11

i like the part about THE SCAMMERS chjecking other people's records./

17:11

floor tiles would actually be smart (if you have nothing better than electricity)

17:11

bloody nigerian cheek.

17:11

wouldnt want no criminals holding shares now

17:12

right-o

17:14

perhaps they are nigerians with an ethical policy of only scamming americans

17:18

aaaaugh

17:18

60 minutes on a stationary bike

17:18

definitely less fun than 60 minutes on a moving bike

17:18

worst botnet ever

17:21

chinese pesants can't put bitcoins in the bank. am i reading correctly?

17:21

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-5-BTC-Casascius-Physical-BITCOIN-Redeemed-BONUS-5mBTC-Coin-LOADED-w-BTC-/321262450654?ssPageName=ADME:L:EOISSA:US:1123

17:21

2012 5 BTC Casascius Physical Bitcoin Redeemed Bonus 5MBTC Coin Loaded w BTC | eBay

17:22

^ arij from -otc got $234.50 for a token :0

17:22

ALUMINUM!!!!

17:23

ah, i thought it was nickel?

17:23

not sure

17:23

"The residue resulting from peeling off the hologram is included."

17:23

lol

17:23

yeah

17:23

lel

17:23

i went a step further and removed all messy residue from mine

17:24

maybe that's why it's only at $145

17:24

residue not included

17:24

residue sold separately

17:24

Up for auction is one (1) ball of residue from a Casascius physical bitcoin

17:25

wow your friends! scare your mom!

17:25

here's the "try" email of the day

17:25

"Hello: I am interested in opening a account.

17:25

Thank you."

17:25

hah

17:25

one-line reply

17:25

"Thank you for your interest."

17:26

Thank you foR Your interest.

17:26

bolded for emphasis

17:26

if only the letters "h-a-r-d-e-r" were in the word "interest"

17:27

maybe usg is trying to set me up or some shit

17:27

time to relocate

17:28

st kitss has good residue

17:28

i went for "We do not offer accounts."

17:36

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11550 @ 0.00079145 = 9.1412 BTC [+] {2}

17:37

another exchange coming it looks like..well funded launch too

17:37

kind of

17:38

http://www.pehub.com/2013/11/itbit-closes-3-25-mln-funding-round-unveils-bitcoin-trading-platform/

17:38

» itBit closes $3.25 mln funding round and unveils Bitcoin trading platform

17:38

ecom type web sites can easily chew through that kind of funding..hope its just the initial round of investment

17:39

Neo is more well-funded even

17:50

"retail investors must reside outside the us"

17:50

the decline doth proceed apace.

17:51

;;bc,stats

17:51

17:54

I thought that was creative chinese tax accountants i could hear

17:54

;;ticker

17:54

MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1106.00001, Best ask: 1106.45, Bid-ask spread: 0.44999, Last trade: 1106.0, 24 hour volume: 58208.70733260, 24 hour low: 870.001, 24 hour high: 1240.0, 24 hour vwap: 1067.55523

17:55

;;ticker --market btcavg

17:55

BitcoinAverage BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1026.26, Best ask: 1031.45, Bid-ask spread: 5.19000, Last trade: 1034.03, 24 hour volume: 187327.5, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: 1062.1

17:55

;;calc 1106*30

17:55

33180

17:55

;;premium mtgox bitstamp

17:55

Premium of MtGox over Bitstamp is currently 8.56154367093 %.

17:56

itbit eh

17:56

;;calc 1026.26*30

17:56

30787.8

17:56

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.00079236 = 0.3169 BTC [+]

17:57

nbwajhahaha cellphone mining

17:57

where do these retards get assembled i wish to know

17:58

i guess icbit was taken

17:58

I love when they get angry at you (like 7C it seems). Who's begging for who's money?

18:00

people are angry at you on the forums? hard to believe.

18:00

lel

18:03

http://bitcoinviews.com/university-of-nicosia-receives-first-tuition-payment-using-bitcoin/

18:03

University of Nicosia Receives First Tuition Payment Using Bitcoin

18:03

Who will be the first Master of Digital Currency?

18:04

http://www.unic.ac.cy

18:04

University of Nicosia

18:04

they arent kidding

18:04

a bitcoin class, why not? there's already on for starcraft http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2009/01/uc-berkeley-int/

18:04

right on the home page

18:04

wow

18:05

I met that guy, in the Video section

18:05

was pretty interesting guy

18:05

vid is Greek tho

18:06

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 16 @ 0.0077 = 0.1232 BTC {2}

18:07

http://www.unic.ac.cy/about-us/university-of-nicosia-digital-currency-initiative/msc-digital-currency

18:07

MSc Digital Currency | University of Nicosia

18:18

lel

18:18

pascale re: S.NSA t-shirts

18:18

"remember the models with their pussies out?"

18:18

"yep"

18:22

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.0029 = 0.116 BTC [-] {2}

18:22

http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2013/12/05/betting-against-bitcoin-bubble/ you got quoted TAT

18:22

How to bet against the bitcoin megabubble - The Term Sheet: Fortune's deals blogTerm Sheet

18:23

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 169 @ 0.00285973 = 0.4833 BTC [-] {6}

18:24

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00285 = 0.285 BTC [-] {2}

18:25

"that lead me to question just how real the prices MPEx was quoting were"

18:26

hahaha

18:26

hey, it's stephen gandel!

18:26

as real as the people buying them, one assumes

18:26

2 contracts minimum to profit

18:26

well i say

18:27

sounds like you need some capitalization

18:27

american "news" organizations

18:27

wow

18:27

mpex on fortune

18:27

wooy

18:27

woot*

18:27

"you can totally short bitcoins profitably - it just takes a lot of money to make it reasonably profitable. ergo, bitcoins r tardfodder."

18:28

*rage rage rage rage*

18:28

I was told this happens a lot.

18:29

"You can't currently do that with bitcoins. All of the bitcoin options and futures contracts are settled in bitcoins. This is a very bad deal."

18:29

I guess he didnt get it

18:30

the first comment was from pankkake

18:30

I got quoted on options?

18:30

"On top of all that, this isn't like trading on the New York Stock Exchange. Midday Wednesday, MPEx appeared to shut down, and the prices of the contracts disappeared. I was told this happens a lot. As of early Thursday, the exchange still wasn't listing prices. "

18:30

awww

18:30

I don't even know what options are!

18:31

i dont see where any of us are quoted ... ?

18:31

don't see it either

18:32

pankkake, no look at the first comment author's avatar

18:32

it's you amirite

18:32

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-12-2013#406136 not an actual quote

18:32

#bitcoin-assets log

18:33

Apocalyptic: haha, it's my avatar but not me

18:33

pankkake: i thought it was you as well :-)

18:33

oh i get ya

18:33

I certainly don't mind the media talking about bitcoin, even if bad

18:34

pankkakecat trolls even better than the real one

18:35

forbes guy coulda at least gave the chan a shoutout sheesh

18:36

indeed

18:37

at least he didn't mention that when he joined the discussion was about underage actresses

18:37

lol

18:37

wait'll he finds out about bitcoin securities

18:38

they clearly have the power to pump any security or altcoin they want

18:38

could've been worse, he could have walked in on mp explaining how he manages his slaves herd

18:39

revealing sources instantly transmogriphys a senior editing journalist into a lowly blogger

18:39

one wonders if he noticed.

18:40

would be funny if someone posted a link to the log in the comments

18:40

now yer talkin

18:40

Full transcript of the author's research here!

18:42

someone do that please.

18:43

i wonder if they'll print it

18:43

fortune still on nesstands?

18:43

newstands still on?

18:44

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25700 @ 0.00079236 = 20.3637 BTC [+]

18:44

yessss exactly.

18:45

nelson mandela issue, buy mpoe

18:45

lol wtf confusion in that guy's head

18:46

why is it the exchange's problem if the bot puts or doesn't put orders in

18:46

"The best I could come up with is shorting the GPU manufacturers that bitcoin miners commonly use" in the comments

18:47

i suppose he missed the part where last month ppl made like 3k btc or w./e

18:47

and the obligatory tulip bulp mention

18:47

i guess it's hard being clueless and yet havintg to write about shit.

18:53

hey no one pointed out that bitcoin's worth more than Google

18:53

(shares)

18:54

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02888997 = 0.2889 BTC [+] {2}

18:55

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 15 @ 0.0077 = 0.1155 BTC

18:58

because google isn't backed by anything

18:58

mircea_popescu, well in your case the exchange is the market maker also

18:59

but he didn't mention that and seem to have no clue so yeah

18:59

next time someone should probably wake mircea

19:00

dem market caps

19:00

Apocalyptic not really, i mean they're conglomerated but separate.

19:00

well, it's no surprise really - people don't understand even market capitalization.

19:02

Apocalyptic: the market maker not quoting prices is not anywhere near similar to the exchange going down.

19:02

benkay, I know that

19:03

I just pointed out that in this specific case MPEX and MPOE are somehow closely related, so it may be relevant to point it out if done correctly

19:04

moreover, the bot's under no obligation to quote

19:04

well yeah, that.

19:04

hey we have quotes on options again!

19:05

too late for the unfortunate article :(

19:05

rushed for the china bank news no doubt

19:05

well he meant that MPEx was unreliable basically. having the quotes back doesn't change that

19:06

well... the bot not quoting has little to do with mpex's reliability.

19:06

then the bot was unreliable!

19:07

bringing some light to that "somehow" is the sort of thing one'd expect a 'journalist' to do.

19:09

you missed the sarcasm in the smiley.

19:09

well... the bot isn't particularly intended to be reliable.

19:10

senior editor can't distinguish market maker from market operator.

19:10

senile editor

19:16

pankkake, did you say senile redditor ?

19:16

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18700 @ 0.00079292 = 14.8276 BTC [+]

19:17

calls are riskier, so he stuck to looking at puts.

19:17

redditors are babies

19:19

Why didn't he mention his failure to fund the CoinBR account with his credit card? http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2013/12/05/betting-against-bitcoin-bubble/?iid=SF_F_River

19:20

now that would have been some gritty investigative journalism

19:27

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 84 @ 0.00299499 = 0.2516 BTC [+]

19:28

i thought google was backed by the fact that they know everything about our private lives

19:29

I wonder if there are futures for data storage

19:29

google could use that

19:30

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 80 @ 0.0077 = 0.616 BTC

19:32

google is fiat currency

19:32

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 20 @ 0.0077 = 0.154 BTC

19:35

future for delivery of 100tb

19:39

I have about 50tb of raw storage at home! not The Google yet, but nice

19:39

thats a lot of blank dvds

19:40

not bad

19:40

lot of floppies

19:40

my worst fear would be magnets

19:41

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 19 @ 0.02888997 = 0.5489 BTC [+]

19:42

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.02888998 = 0.26 BTC [+]

19:43

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.02899998 = 0.116 BTC [+]

19:45

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 16 @ 0.029 = 0.464 BTC [+]

19:47

cat has gone haywire

19:47

fucking with a zig-zag

19:47

pankkake you guys must have some cool zig-zags over there hey?

19:51

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zig-Zag_(company) this? didn't know it even existed

19:51

Zig-Zag (company) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

19:51

yah

19:51

big name in papers!

19:51

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 90 @ 0.00317074 = 0.2854 BTC [-] {6}

19:52

https://www.google.ca/search?q=zig-zag+cigarette+papers&tbm=isch

19:52

http://www.polygon.com/2013/12/5/5177946/ouya-now-accepts-bitcoin-payments

19:52

Ouya now accepts Bitcoin payments (update) | Polygon

19:52

much type. many smoke. wow.

19:52

so ouya isn't dead yet

19:53

it does, however, go to bed at a more reasonable hour

19:53

from the comments: "Next, Ouya starts accepting canned goods and other non perishable food items."

19:53

heh

19:53

i guess that guy's hot sauce won't cut it, then

19:54

Bill Clinton doodles: http://cdn1.sbnation.com/assets/3678361/clinton2.jpg

19:54

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8690 @ 0.00079274 = 6.8889 BTC [-]

19:55

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16441 @ 0.00079024 = 12.9923 BTC [-]

19:56

http://lightbox.time.com/2013/12/05/the-worlds-deadliest-drug-inside-a-krokodil-cookhouse/#4

19:56

World’s Deadliest Drug: Photos and Video Inside a Krokodil Cookhouse - LightBox

20:06

deadweas1l

;;ticker

20:06

MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1065.005, Best ask: 1073.98999, Bid-ask spread: 8.98499, Last trade: 1073.98999, 24 hour volume: 57435.83831195, 24 hour low: 870.001, 24 hour high: 1238.0, 24 hour vwap: 1062.0459

20:12

seems like bit bet's method of calculating winnings is kind of flawed? it lends itself to horrible odds.. why would someone risk 1BTC to receive like .001 btc.. shouldn't they try to match bets of the same fixed odds and just return leftover amounts?

20:13

huh ?

20:14

he wants tradesports

20:14

perhaps you're looking at a bet that is soon to be ending?

20:14

it's not a booky site, just straight up bets

20:14

oh

20:15

jamespeerless: You could make a bookie sort of site like that which trades and hedges on BitBet...

20:17

i guess even disregarding the weight factor, if there's only .01BTC available on one option and you want to bet like 3BTC on the other side.. you are risking 3BTC to win the .01

20:18

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.02959996 = 0.2664 BTC [+]

20:18

i guess you'd be dumb to bet 3btc in that scenario then :P

20:19

yeah, it's annoying. so I wait for someone to bet, but someone might be doing the same

20:19

yeah wonder how you can fix that case

20:20

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 16 @ 0.029 = 0.464 BTC [-]

20:22

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02309999 = 0.1155 BTC [-] {4}

20:28

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 166 @ 0.00299483 = 0.4971 BTC [-] {4}

20:32

jamespeerless: As long as your large BitBet bets are large enough to make the other side of the bet seem appealing, generally I've noticed the money to match generally shows up.

20:32

yeah seems to make sense

20:34

jamespeerless: It also helps when you put the money down earlier in the bet, especially when it is a bet where either side could happen

20:34

yeah gives you better odds and bigger winnings once the other money shows up

20:37

jamespeerless: Definitely, but you have to watch bitbet for these bets as they occur so money that opposes you can also cone in on favorable weight

20:42

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 319 @ 0.00316971 = 1.0111 BTC [-] {2}

20:43

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 78 @ 0.00315 = 0.2457 BTC [-] {5}

~ 19 minutes ~

21:03

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33781999 BTC [-]

21:05

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23268 @ 0.0007892 = 18.3631 BTC [-] {3}

21:05

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34000001 BTC [+]

21:06

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33951502 = 0.679 BTC [-] {2}

21:08

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33779999 = 0.6756 BTC [-] {2}

21:08

one can also bet on BOTH SIDES ZOMG

21:09

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34000001 = 0.68 BTC [+] {2}

21:12

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-]

21:13

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-]

21:15

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34000001 BTC [+]

21:15

;;ticker

21:15

MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1028.15001, Best ask: 1029.99999, Bid-ask spread: 1.84998, Last trade: 1030.0, 24 hour volume: 58609.48103979, 24 hour low: 870.001, 24 hour high: 1238.0, 24 hour vwap: 1053.94335

21:16

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34000001 BTC [+]

21:17

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-]

21:18

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-]

21:19

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34010001 = 0.6802 BTC [+] {2}

21:21

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-]

21:22

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-]

21:22

;;ud fnord

21:22

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fnord | A fnord is a propaganda word conditioned in the masses from a very young age to respond to, usually with fear, anxiety, or uneasiness, but unable t...

21:22

Urban Dictionary: fnord

21:23

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

21:23

https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=COG.F#ui-tabs-1

21:23

"While the bitcoin price is high ($40+) it is a great time to invest in hardware, as we are getting the most out of our coin."

21:23

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34010001 = 0.6802 BTC [+] {2}

21:23

lol...

21:23

sounds like everyone involved really did their due diligence

21:23

"they" are for sure, the customers... not so much

21:23

STOP SLANDERING BRITNEY NOW

21:23

OH MY GOD POOR BRITNEY

21:24

running mascara or it doesn't count

21:24

i dont have a webcam

21:25

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-]

21:26

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-]

21:28

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34010001 = 0.6802 BTC [+] {2}

21:28

i dont see anything good on havelock

21:28

just checked after some long time

21:28

it's almost enough to make a kid turn scammer

21:29

the kid is a idiot scammer

21:29

it was fuckin proven on the forum

21:29

he also sucks cock.

21:29

jurov` nudge nudge

21:29

ah, but does he have a webcam?

21:29

not sure

21:30

prolly on his faggotary macbook

21:30

call me when there's something to watch ;(

21:30

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33789999 = 0.6758 BTC [-] {2}

21:30

[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1904 @ 0.000105 = 0.1999 BTC [+]

21:30

[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.1498999 BTC [-]

21:31

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34010001 = 0.6802 BTC [+] {2}

21:31

hey kakobrekla what's the bitcoin forex hedge fund called?

21:32

kakobrekla: Are you sure his mouth is even clean enough to suck cocks? With all the the scam in there he might not have room...

21:33

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33789999 = 0.6758 BTC [-] {2}

21:34

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34010001 = 0.6802 BTC [+] {2}

21:34

[HAVELOCK] [COG] 7 @ 0.05025001 = 0.3518 BTC [-] {2}

21:35

[HAVELOCK] [COG] 5 @ 0.05025001 = 0.2513 BTC [-] {2}

21:35

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33789999 BTC [-]

21:35

BingoBoingo you know he did find space for whatever inaba is packing.

21:36

benkay panacea

21:36

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33789999 BTC [-]

21:36

[HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.05025001 = 0.1508 BTC [-]

21:36

ThickAsThieves: setting up a panacea PT yet?

21:37

[HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.05025 = 0.1005 BTC [-]

21:37

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34010001 = 0.6802 BTC [+] {2}

21:38

kakobrekla: Well Inaba is also full of scam as well. When scam prevents adequate blood flow of course Inaba will only be able to offer Garr a limp and flexible member.

21:38

hehe

21:38

;;seen unbalanced

21:38

unbalanced was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 21 hours, 37 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <unbalanced> *Part Tops = what drunk people call Pop Tarts

21:39

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33789999 = 0.6758 BTC [-] {2}

21:40

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34010001 BTC [+]

21:41

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34010001 BTC [+]

21:42

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33779999 = 0.6756 BTC [-] {2}

21:43

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34010001 = 0.6802 BTC [+] {2}

21:44

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33779999 = 0.6756 BTC [-] {2}

21:45

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34010001 = 0.6802 BTC [+] {2}

21:45

;;ticker --markets all

21:45

(ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Mtgox. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure (1 more message)

21:46

;;ticker --market all

21:46

MtGox BTCUSD last: 1040.03522, vol: 58949.60700610 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 980.4, vol: 59279.49481105 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 960.0, vol: 58177.97009 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 986.99, vol: 11114.25670693 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 987.37, vol: 356.96774261 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 1002.7229, vol: 123607.91300000 | Volume-weighted last average: 996.977492472

21:46

.d

21:46

707408283.05150 | Next Diff in 879 blocks | Estimated Change: 22.6255% in 4d 17h 18m 26s

21:46

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-]

21:47

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33789999 BTC [+]

21:48

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34010001 = 0.6802 BTC [+] {2}

21:49

Looking on Ebay apparently DEC Alpha based hardware has been retaining some value http://www.ebay.com/itm/DS15-Alphastation-1GHz-CPU-1GB-Memory-DVD-DA-75CAA-AW-/200771528988?pt=US_Vintage_Computing_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2ebeea691c

21:49

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3378 BTC [-]

21:50

BingoBoingo: i suspect it's all for people who want to run OpenGenera.

21:50

as seen here: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=186

21:50

got a pile of these alphas right here.

21:50

had to throw some out last year, to make space...

21:50

asciilifeform: Well, that's what I've been pricing alphastations for...

21:51

my advice, try the pc version 1st

21:51

it's a serious time commitment; not for everyone.

21:54

asciilifeform: Well As a hobby project I'm thinking of setting up a webserver and running the blog off of it. Basically rewriting the parts of wordpress I like and letting the rest die in a fire, perhaps literally http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2013/10/14/a-proper-barrel-fire-a-secure-way-to-dispose-of-data-storage/

21:54

what, lisp in general or the whole symbolics compu-archaeology?

21:54

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33799999 BTC [+]

21:55

benkay: Just writing a blogging web ap for myself that I can confirm isn't running on x86

21:55

;;bc,24hprc

21:55

Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.

21:55

benkay: But also doing it on beefy enough hardware to just work

21:55

well, genera comes with john c. mallery's cl-http.

21:55

you can work up from there.

21:55

dude what is the actual average price?

21:55

the options don't seem to be priced right

21:56

thestringpuller: Nothing is priced right

21:56

(btw i have it on fairly reliable rumor that mallery owns symbolics corp. now.)

21:56

O.o

21:56

sounds like something i'd do if i weren't busy acquring every btc in price

21:56

you accounting for the 0.1 lot size?

21:56

yea

21:56

trying to, and acquiring

21:56

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34010001 BTC [+]

21:57

so right now average price of 0.1 lot is 99.6 right?

21:57

something like that

21:57

so with a strike price of 110

21:57

for O.USD.P110T

21:57

asciilifeform: I've also been thinking about an Alpha+BSD+GNUGuille stack

21:57

(110 - 99.6) / 99.6 no?

21:57

;;calc (110 - 99.6) / 99.6

21:58

0.104417670683

21:58

BingoBoingo: you can use any old pile of junk, then, doesn't have to be a DEC.

21:58

;;ticker

21:58

MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1046.96724, Best ask: 1052.97, Bid-ask spread: 6.00276, Last trade: 1046.0, 24 hour volume: 58953.24632437, 24 hour low: 870.001, 24 hour high: 1238.0, 24 hour vwap: 1052.78918

21:58

am I doing that right mircea_popescu ?

21:58

thestringpuller seems it's morel ike 1050

21:58

?

21:58

;;calc 5/105

21:58

0.047619047619

21:58

BingoBoingo: if all you want is a web server on a 'i personally set every damn bit' sort of machine, something like this: http://www.kyllikki.org/hardware/wwwpic2/ is a better project.

21:58

how did you come up with that number

21:58

sorry the 0.1 lot is throwing me off

21:58

:(

21:59

necromantically resurrecting ancient iron is not a panacea. the systems of the past had their own security flaws (irix, i'm looking at you)

21:59

asciilifeform: Thanks. I'm still in the reading, research, and playing with languages stage.

22:00

BingoBoingo: pick a reasonably capable microcontroller and learn that.

22:00

im going into the playing with tits stage.

22:00

later all.

22:00

asciilifeform: I used to be fond of Sun Hardware, but a lot of flaws seem to come out of SPARC systems.

22:01

it isn't the SPARC (or Alpha, or whoever) that is to blame, it's unix

22:01

and cancerous complexity in general.

22:01

it's a bug

22:01

Seems so really ascii

22:01

http://mpex.co/?mpsic=O.USD.P110T

22:01

O.USD.P110T last @0.00000000

22:01

price is half there what it is on the homepage

22:01

mike_c: The problem is that over time bugs become deatures

22:01

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33779999 = 0.6756 BTC [-] {2}

22:02

mike_c: Maybe the bot knows something you don't?

22:02

there is something to be said for even the most humble microcontroller. the PIC16F84 (mentioned in the link, also my 1st micro as a kid) has separate address spaces for code and data.

22:02

overflow that.

22:02

er. homepage says 0.01, put page says 0.05. that's a bug :)

22:02

derp. i was looking at sell on the put page.

22:03

asciilifeform: I'll get to reading.

22:03

hmmm

22:04

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34010001 BTC [+]

22:04

http://api.bitcoincharts.com/v1/weighted_prices.json - average price doesn't seem to be

22:04

1050

22:04

dunno where popescu got that number

22:04

I think the bot is misquoting

22:04

either that or where it's getting it's average isn't available to us

22:04

nanotube: you should really fix the ;;bc,24hprc when you get the chance

22:04

;;bc,24hprc

22:04

BingoBoingo: complete instruction set: http://ece.wpi.edu/~wrm/Courses/EE2801/Notes/ee2801c00lec20.pdf

22:04

Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.

22:05

and yes, that's all of them.

22:06

why misquoting? It's willing to buy the put at .0104, and that is basically intrinsic value.

22:06

My favorite part of IRC is the logs basically compile a reading list.

22:06

seems right..

22:07

there is really very little more fun you could have as a programmer, than on a machine that you can completely understand.

22:08

;;calc ((110 - 99.6) / 99.6) * 0.1

22:08

0.0104417670683

22:09

asciilifeform: Well as I view things I do more regularly (betting valuations in SAGE mostly) I generally thing of my self as a scripter more than a person who programs. I think I'm going to have fun with the PIC

22:09

BingoBoingo: learning a micro will teach you what everyone in the '80s knew: that low-level programming doesn't have to be a misery.

22:10

avoid the ones that are typically used with a traditional OS (most of the modern offering - ARM, etc.)

22:10

those are less pleasant to program directly.

22:16

Well asciilifeform Looks like I have a project nao, thanks

22:17

asciilifeform: Any particular FPGA toolchains worth leaning or do they get replaced too soon.

22:17

don't learn a toolchain, learn verilog (or vhdl)

22:17

i prefer verilog

22:17

both xilinx ('coke'), altera 'pepsi', and lattice 'inca cola' will happily eat both.

22:18

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00314994 = 0.315 BTC [-] {2}

22:18

never buy xilinx and altera boards new, they're pennies to the dollar on ebay and the like.

22:19

i had an inca cola t-shirt

22:19

avoid boards specifically designed for cryptocoin mining, they are i/o-poor.

22:19

think i gave it away

22:19

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 64 @ 0.00313504 = 0.2006 BTC [-] {2}

22:19

micros are great, i made a MIDI clock signal generator some years ago

22:21

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 163 @ 0.00313513 = 0.511 BTC [+] {2}

22:22

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 28 @ 0.0077 = 0.2156 BTC

22:22

Cool, In about 15 years I might finally be a programmer

22:22

more like 15 days

22:23

buy a simple micro board, make a light blink.

22:23

it will be fun.

22:25

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 22 @ 0.0077 = 0.1694 BTC

22:27

All I want for Christmas nao is the ability to make a light blink.

~ 20 minutes ~

22:47

nanotube

thestringpuller: ah yes, so i should thanks for the ping. looks like bitcoincharts changed urls on me.

22:55

nanotube

thestringpuller: fixed

22:56

;;bc,24hprc

22:56

993.56

22:56

thanks!

22:57

nanotube

yw :)

23:10

hey what do you call a snuggie worn backwards?

23:10

A FUCKING BATHROBE

23:10

ahh lel

23:10

seen unbalanced

23:11

unfortunately, a backwards bathrobe gets all up in your throat

23:11

;;seen unbalanced

23:11

unbalanced was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 23 hours, 9 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <unbalanced> *Part Tops = what drunk people call Pop Tarts

23:11

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 20 @ 0.0077 = 0.154 BTC

23:11

it does have a hany pukebag nubbins`

23:11

handy

23:12

given the bathrobe has a hoodie

23:12

mine does

23:20

ah, lucky

23:20

i wish mine did

23:20

http://www.upworthy.com/every-war-on-drugs-myth-thoroughly-destroyed-by-a-retired-police-captain?g=2

could also be used to hold popcorn

~ 15 minutes ~

23:35

Kleeck

23:35

Every War On Drugs Myth Thoroughly Destroyed By A Retired Police Captain

23:36

waited til he retired, -1, ACAB

23:38

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 299 @ 0.00290109 = 0.8674 BTC [-] {7}

23:38

;;ud acab

23:38

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ACAB | All Cops Are Bastards A.C.A.B punks write it on stuff.

23:38

Urban Dictionary: ACAB

23:41

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 133 @ 0.0077 = 1.0241 BTC

23:46

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 170 @ 0.0028902 = 0.4913 BTC [-] {5}

23:47

Kleek: who the fuck wants to watch an upworthy video?

23:48

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 70 @ 0.0077 = 0.539 BTC

23:48

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ7mhLp0abU

23:48

homicide da union - YouTube

23:51

Seriously, Youtube, have they even hear of OPSEC?

23:51

7 ways this crazy police chief dismantled the war on drugs!

23:51

this police chief retired... you won't believe what he said next!

23:52

this gun is full of bullets, watch me hold it to my head and pull the trigger!

23:53

heh. videos.

23:54

seriously though, try to imagine something more cowardly than waiting until you retire to reveal that you knew your job was a crock of shit

23:55

so brave!

23:55

click to share!

23:55

watch this retired police captain masturbate in your face, just as he has for the past 35 years

23:55

[HAVELOCK] [7C] 19 @ 0.0077 = 0.1463 BTC

23:55

etc

23:57

nubbins` i met some old dude like that the other night..from the moment i met him he seemed like a flake..i couldnt imagine a life like that.

23:57

upworthy. always derpful linkbait.

23:58

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/rcmp-head-bob-paulson-supports-dna-collection-on-arrest-1.2452462

23:58

RCMP head Bob Paulson supports DNA collection on arrest - Politics - CBC News

23:59

cops, great champions of justice

23:59