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← 2013-12-04 | 2013-12-06 → ↓
00:00 unbalanced But if we can see that page I'd think the bot would be quoting so maybe some other sources are involved too these days. I've been out of touch between chart tops.
00:01 unbalanced *Part Tops = what drunk people call Pop Tarts
00:05 Vexual sorry tat
00:05 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdnYzIxQUWE
00:05 ozbot Beastie Boys - Don't Play no Game That I Can't Win - YouTube
00:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.3468 = 1.0404 BTC [+] {3}
00:10 nubbins` music links, i'll occasionally click
00:10 nubbins` general youtube links, rarely
00:10 Vexual hit me nubs
00:11 nubbins` http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-o5TRmiDIo
00:11 ozbot Battles | Wall Street | A Take Away Show - YouTube
00:12 nubbins` filmed in paris city hall
00:13 Vexual im scared
00:15 Vexual wait i thought it was the metro
00:15 nubbins` who knows? the something anyway
00:16 Vexual i was about to go upstairs and buy some catacombs porn
00:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 133 @ 0.0029101 = 0.387 BTC [-] {4}
00:21 KRS|gotyawallet vexual
00:21 KRS|gotyawallet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9meN8MCYfI
00:21 ozbot Nelly - E.I. - Lyrics - YouTube
00:21 Vexual sup slut
00:21 KRS|gotyawallet somethin to fuck with ya eardrum
00:21 Vexual hahah
00:21 KRS|gotyawallet just got done blasting it..back on my grind tonight..aint stoppin til the morning
00:22 Vexual cant do it
00:23 nubbins` here's something else you can't do
00:23 KRS|gotyawallet ok im getting to know what you dig
00:23 nubbins` http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH0ESZzIxMI
00:23 ozbot The Jesus Lizard - Club - YouTube
00:23 nubbins` ^ been listening to this on vinyl all week
00:23 gecko_x2 jesus christ
00:23 KRS|gotyawallet wow vinyl..some say that delivers the most fidelity
00:23 nubbins` feels like your ears are being tickled
00:24 nubbins` they put a lot more effort into mastering for vinyl
00:24 Vexual some do
00:25 Vexual my record player cost $12, when i upgrade, im sitting on a gold mine
00:25 nubbins` jesus lizard had a bunch of records produced by steve albini
00:25 nubbins` you can bet they were mastered best for vinyl ;)
00:27 KRS|gotyawallet this kind of reminds me of early the breeders or something
00:27 KRS|gotyawallet punk
00:27 Vexual anyone tried makerbot records yet?
00:27 KRS|gotyawallet ?
00:27 nubbins` krs, check out the albums "goat" and "down" by these guys if you like it so far
00:28 KRS|gotyawallet ok
00:28 KRS|gotyawallet the associate?
00:28 Vexual press print and get industrial noise
00:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34799999 BTC [+]
00:29 nubbins` ah, ?
00:30 KRS|gotyawallet im digging song 1 of goat
00:30 Vexual well if you printed a record with a makerbot, all the tracks would be 2mm apart
00:30 nubbins` goat's a great album
00:30 nubbins` see the cover art?
00:31 KRS|gotyawallet yea
00:31 nubbins` actually not flames :0
00:31 KRS|gotyawallet they have a grunge feel which i like a lot
00:31 nubbins` look closer
00:31 KRS|gotyawallet hah i see a tit
00:31 KRS|gotyawallet woman made out of flames neat..didnt notice it
00:31 nubbins` nod
00:31 nubbins` this is from 1991
00:32 KRS|gotyawallet ya grunge era
00:32 KRS|gotyawallet they seem like a group that would open for soundgarden.. The group Soundgarden is like one of my all time fav's..ever listen to them?
00:32 nubbins` listened to soundgarden a lot in my younger years
00:32 nubbins` saw em a couple of years ago in chicago
00:33 KRS|gotyawallet soundgarden reminds me of me in my 20's street racing my 5.0 mustang with nitrous and shit..amazing i came out of that period alive.
00:33 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
00:33 KRS|gotyawallet some of my friends didnt and some are still dealing with their acid trips
00:34 KRS|gotyawallet im gonna have to remember this album i like it thanks
00:35 nubbins` yah, worth many listens
00:35 KRS|gotyawallet make me want to listen to badmotorfinger
00:35 Vexual what?
00:35 nubbins` Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhHwuPNA-j4
00:36 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4b3MBkOx5k
00:39 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TehFZ38kt6o
00:39 ozbot Thin Lizzy-Whiskey in the jar - YouTube
00:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2004 @ 0.000075 = 0.1503 BTC [+] {2}
00:44 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fLR3FRaFsQ
00:44 ozbot Oasis - Some Might Say - Official Video - YouTube
00:46 KRS|gotyawallet Oasis- good group
00:46 KRS|gotyawallet I love it, play Eric Clapton - Cocaine on you tube.. an ad displays a link that reads "Buy Cocaine on iTunes"
00:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.0030129 = 0.9039 BTC [+] {3}
00:49 Vexual youll get an ad for an ipod
00:50 nubbins` re: cocaine
00:50 nubbins` http://somehavechanged.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/george_harrison_-_cloud_nine-front.jpg
00:50 nubbins` ^
00:50 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R044sleOW6I
00:50 ozbot Ram Jam - Black Betty 1977 - YouTube
00:50 nubbins` nite
00:51 Vexual wait prog rock is coming up
00:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.34799994 = 2.784 BTC [-] {3}
00:54 Vexual voila prg rock
00:55 Vexual heres a clip for those that prefer skaters givin lip than kittens
00:57 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xot0reBp2ec
00:57 ozbot Ollie the Cat's Super Bowl 46 Prediction (Cat predicts Superbowl 2012) - YouTube
00:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14999999 BTC [+]
01:00 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t7yCA5XCZk
01:00 ozbot Snoop Dogg - 03 Crazy - Blue Carpet Treatment - YouTube
01:00 KRS|gotyawallet i listen to this sometimes when im deep in thought or trading
01:00 KRS|gotyawallet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ukixviy1Wk
01:00 ozbot Mams - You Can Fly - YouTube
01:02 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2VBcymnDC0
01:08 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvd71HyoNbk
01:08 ozbot LEE SCRATCH PERRY e MAD PROFESSOR Mystic Warrior + Mystic Warrior Dub 1989 - YouTube
01:10 KRS|gotyawallet badass lambo but anyone who knows anything about engines knows you dont rev it as soon as it starts, gotta let oil get up above the heads and what not
01:11 Vexual never se em run, theyre like comets
01:13 Vexual not much forums
01:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00080462 = 6.3163 BTC [-]
01:19 Vexual mix it in dancehall people
01:20 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED31_wRIGYg
01:20 ozbot Classic VTEC Mini Cooper Beats Camero SS - YouTube
01:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 22 @ 0.14074795 = 3.0965 BTC [-] {7}
01:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.13551 = 0.542 BTC [-] {2}
01:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1495 @ 0.00286784 = 4.2874 BTC [-] {9}
01:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 600 @ 0.00270986 = 1.6259 BTC [-] {11}
01:28 KRS|gotyawallet This Lee Perry joint is good
01:29 KRS|gotyawallet Made me think of this
01:29 KRS|gotyawallet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJVfPU87hws
01:29 ozbot Buju banton murderer - YouTube
01:30 Vexual are google ahead of thge curve or average?
01:34 Vexual how do you answer more questions at once with less ears?
01:34 Vexual 5 chains
01:36 KRS|gotyawallet i dun get it
01:37 Vexual i chain is just one stream of data
01:38 KRS|gotyawallet ok
01:38 Vexual 2chains is dna
01:38 KRS|gotyawallet double helix
01:38 Vexual 5 chains is dna*human conciousness
01:38 KRS|gotyawallet ah ok
01:38 KRS|gotyawallet i didnt do enough acid yet to get there
01:39 KRS|gotyawallet im close to that level of understanding though i dig
01:39 KRS|gotyawallet i've been freed
01:39 Vexual well i consider that peer reviewd
01:39 KRS|gotyawallet cool
01:40 Vexual id like to add the ga*pig bill
01:41 Vexual hmm, on seconf thought
01:41 Vexual theres not much evidence of any of that bullshit
01:42 KRS|gotyawallet do you know what i mean by 'freed'
01:43 Vexual ill just copy these photoshop macros into spss..
01:43 KRS|gotyawallet having been living in the framework that is presented to us and then understanding some things to achieve a higher level of conciousness and understanding
01:43 KRS|gotyawallet not everyone makes it out
01:44 KRS|gotyawallet sometimes referred to as lemmings
01:45 Vexual yeah and comets
01:45 KRS|gotyawallet a lot of drugs can get you there if intelligence doesnt..in my case it was good strong weed...others have used acid
01:45 Vexual but have you ever SEEN a comet?
01:46 KRS|gotyawallet yes it was hard to see
01:46 KRS|gotyawallet haley's (sp?) comet back in the 80's
01:46 KRS|gotyawallet whats that got to do with what i was talking about? also- some say comets seeded the universe with life
01:46 Vexual yes well THAT one was in the newspaper, but..
01:47 KRS|gotyawallet i saw a satellite burn up in our atmosphere the other night it was amazing
01:47 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
01:47 Vexual when you see one unexpectedly you use caps
01:48 Vexual a satllite is 1m long
01:48 Vexual when a big space rock hits the air, thats the shit
01:50 KRS|gotyawallet fo sho...love that one that "hit" russia..although it didnt hit ground
01:50 Vexual once a year touchdown? thats an asteroid belt babby!
01:50 KRS|gotyawallet ever see videos from that
01:52 KRS|gotyawallet my bad it wasnt a satellite i saw, it was the space-x rocket taking off
01:52 Vexual watchign satellites if fun, but its the organic space shit you really wanna see
01:53 KRS|gotyawallet yeah..its fun on a clear night to see how fast them satellites are going
01:53 KRS|gotyawallet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYqh6_GLwU4
01:53 ozbot Tasmin Archer - Sleeping Satellite (Single Version 1992) - YouTube
01:59 Vexual now if you had a radr array in orbit that could see a long way in 360, thatd pay
02:00 Vexual ir 2pir/infinity cubed
02:01 Vexual a perfect sine wave on every plane.
02:01 Vexual cant be dont
02:02 Vexual ice nad rock spin differently
02:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18068 @ 0.00080296 = 14.5079 BTC [-] {2}
02:06 Vexual good driver good sensor, 1au out
02:07 Vexual youd need a computer like prism to record all the inputs
02:09 Vexual yeah it pretty much boils down to looking for the reflection from the sun
02:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7550 @ 0.00080731 = 6.0952 BTC [+]
02:15 KRS|gotyawallet i see you know a thing or two about physics
02:15 KRS|gotyawallet are you an engineer?
02:15 KRS|gotyawallet are are talking about spectral analysis?
02:15 KRS|gotyawallet with a laser
02:16 Vexual nope i just sell trust companies
02:17 Vexual which are really just a priavte key with 1mbtc
02:19 KRS|gotyawallet crazy that you know this stuff too
02:19 Vexual i did an ipo for a phone bookj and a computer and a maserati
02:20 KRS|gotyawallet haha thats awesome..a friend of mine used to trade securities and told me some good stories..a lot of them do coke
02:21 KRS|gotyawallet i was mentioned on the management team for a $5BB ipo for submarine fiber optic cable..but it floundered.
02:21 Vexual lol should had nemo on the case
02:23 KRS|gotyawallet hah here it is http://www.fiberopticsonline.com/doc/nmdg-exec-reveals-strategy-for-5-billion-glob-0001
02:23 Vexual theres money in submarine cable to be sure
02:23 KRS|gotyawallet you better believe
02:24 Vexual cunts need utube
02:24 KRS|gotyawallet as an engineer i spec'd out a lot of the equipment and direcly showed them how we could increase density for increased capacity and a better financial forecast
02:24 Vexual buy more shit
02:24 KRS|gotyawallet they didnt deserve me =D
02:24 Vexual ?
02:25 KRS|gotyawallet no actually they spec'd out more expensive shit and i showed them the lucent models that increases wavelength density by using better multiplexors that were cheaper
02:25 KRS|gotyawallet and then came the broadband piece that added another hundred million or so in certain markets
02:25 KRS|gotyawallet i was still in college
02:26 KRS|gotyawallet i still "lived the life" so to speak with many of the execs
02:27 KRS|gotyawallet good times
02:28 KRS|gotyawallet "We're trying to get to 2.5 terabits or even higher [per cable],"
02:28 Vexual i would have siad you were puffing muffins
02:28 KRS|gotyawallet haha
02:29 Vexual solder the yellow wire to pin 3 for me
02:29 KRS|gotyawallet i know all that shit..dense wave division multiplexing
02:29 KRS|gotyawallet its ez
02:29 Vexual you're tripping
02:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 345 @ 0.002914 = 1.0053 BTC [-]
02:35 Vexual upper management for you
02:36 Vexual if off to look for comets
02:42 KRS|gotyawallet heh ok have fun
02:42 KRS|gotyawallet not a manager, im just an engineer
~ 15 minutes ~
02:58 KRS|gotyawallet eh- how bad is it if financial institutions in China are being banned for dealing in bitcoin
03:00 KRS|gotyawallet Bloomberg..
03:00 KRS|gotyawallet Breaking News
03:00 KRS|gotyawallet China PBOC Bans Financial Companies From Bitcoin Transactions
03:01 dexX7 uh oh
03:01 dexX7 that's not good?
03:02 Namworld link?
03:02 dexX7 strange though in context of an earlier statement: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1r6rup/chinas_central_bank_peoples_bank_of_china_deputy/
03:02 dexX7 Namworld: http://www.bloomberg.com/
03:03 KRS|gotyawallet http://www.fxstreet.com/news/fxbeat/article.aspx?storyid=3201a1a7-d13e-4e46-a664-93847d67bbd6
03:03 ozbot China's PBOC: Bitcoin isn't currency with real meaning
03:03 KRS|gotyawallet something tells me this isnt good at all
03:03 KRS|gotyawallet might lose 30% market price over this
03:04 KRS|gotyawallet they gonna dump!
03:04 Duffer1 ya wow
03:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9797 @ 0.00080747 = 7.9108 BTC [+] {2}
03:04 Namworld I don't see the ban...
03:04 KRS|gotyawallet Namworld huh?
03:05 Duffer1 all i see is a paywall :/
03:05 KRS|gotyawallet and you dont see them dumping over this?
03:05 dexX7 oh, it's gone from bloomberg.com
03:05 KRS|gotyawallet paywall like what we have in the U.S.?
03:05 dexX7 there was a note on the top
03:05 Duffer1 paywall meaning i couldn't access the article you linked :P
03:05 KRS|gotyawallet damn
03:06 Namworld No, I mean there's no notice of any ban anywhere
03:06 dexX7 http://i.imgur.com/JImF8Vw.png mirror
03:06 KRS|gotyawallet bloomberg had a "Breaking News" note
03:07 Namworld That looks half-assed...
03:07 Duffer1 hmm
03:07 KRS|gotyawallet China better not fuck this up for us
03:07 KRS|gotyawallet front page of bloomberg had a note that said "Breaking News: China bans financial institutions from dealing in bitcoin"
03:07 KRS|gotyawallet or something similar
03:07 dexX7 yea i saw it
03:08 dexX7 what exactly means "pdoc bans financial institutions from bitcoin transactions"?
03:10 chetty PBOC:Public free to participate but they bear risks
03:11 KRS|gotyawallet sounds like they dont want their financial institutions failing because of it
03:11 KRS|gotyawallet they are sensitive about their currency
03:14 dexX7 http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pbc.gov.cn%2Fpublish%2Fgoutongjiaoliu%2F524%2F2013%2F20131205153156832222251%2F20131205153156832222251_.html&sandbox=1
03:14 dexX7 original: http://www.pbc.gov.cn/publish/goutongjiaoliu/524/2013/20131205153156832222251/20131205153156832222251_.html
03:20 Duffer1 such as not having sex with mandatory legal tender currency property
03:20 Duffer1 ?
03:21 Duffer1 oh snap that's real
03:22 Duffer1 good find dexx7
03:22 dexX7 cya @ single digits :(
03:23 KRS|gotyawallet o shit
03:25 dexX7 http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/05/china-bitcoin-idUSB9N0IQ02220131205
03:25 ozbot China central bank warns banks against use of bitcoin
03:27 dexX7 what is unclear to me: do they suggest not to use bitcoin or do they prohibit it?
03:29 Duffer1 "At this stage, the financial institutions and payment institutions are not allowed to Bitcoin price for the product or service, may not be sold or traded as a central counterparty bitcoin"
03:29 Duffer1 hard to decipher that sentence
03:30 dexX7 the whole thing is hard to decipher for me :D
03:30 dexX7 is could mean "our banks are not allowed to price products in bitcoin"
03:30 dexX7 or "every company"
03:30 KRS|gotyawallet this is bananas
03:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 73 @ 0.0030025 = 0.2192 BTC [+]
03:34 dexX7 LOL those fucks
03:34 dexX7 http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1s5e2i/bitcoin_crashing_due_to_mtgox_hack/
03:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34101001 BTC [-]
03:36 Namworld "such as not having sex with mandatory legal tender currency property"
03:39 Namworld Having sex with non-legal tender is dangerous. You could catch non-patriotism and other very nasty un-national diseases. Support the nation!
03:39 Namworld However...
03:39 Namworld "However, Bitcoin transaction as a commodity trading behavior on the Internet, ordinary people have the freedom to participate in the premise own risk."
03:40 Namworld Chinese people are free to store value into Bitcoin it seems to say, at their own risk.
03:40 Namworld So nothing changed...
03:40 Namworld Needs better translation than google...
03:41 Duffer1 right but it always appears to say that businesses are warned against accepting it
03:41 Duffer1 always = also
03:43 KRS- yeah they can jerk off with it without fiat
03:43 dexX7 well btcchina is crashing
03:43 KRS- of course
03:43 dexX7 so it must be bad
03:43 KRS- ya think
03:43 KRS- =D
03:49 KRS- Cheap Chinese coin get it while its hot!
03:51 KRS- ;;bids 1000
03:52 gribble There are currently 3452.1426 bitcoins demanded at or over 1000.0 USD, worth 3555744.46885 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.1959 seconds
03:52 KRS- christ a lot of people are gonna buy high
03:53 dexX7 ;;goxlag
03:53 Namworld Fuck, btcchina at 794 USD?
03:53 gribble MtGox lag is 1129.882129 seconds. During this time, light travels 2.26427113573 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Ceres (in the main asteroid belt) (2.77 AU).
03:53 Namworld Oh, must be why gox is still so high
03:53 dexX7 not sure.. last price i have is 6002 cny
03:53 dexX7 but seems like the ticker is dead
03:54 Namworld mine shows 4839.58
03:54 dexX7 wtf
03:54 Namworld Where are you looking?
03:54 dexX7 holy shit
03:54 dexX7 bitcoinwisdom and bitcoinity
03:54 dexX7 but i think you are right
03:55 dexX7 www.btcchina.com
03:55 dexX7 ¥4,521.13 - ¥7,050.00 价格范围
03:56 Duffer1 is there a clarkmoody's for btcchina?
03:57 dexX7 http://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/btcchina/btccny
03:57 ozbot BTCChina BTC/CNY Charts - BitcoinWisdom
03:57 dexX7 but there is no new data..
03:57 Duffer1 oh nice i didn't realize btcw offered that
03:57 Duffer1 ah i see
04:01 KRS- anyone have experience with this?? this could take a while? or should I ready my positions now?
04:02 Duffer1 looks like it's already rallying on btcchina, back up to 5900
04:02 kyle_torpey its an irrational swing so who knows
04:02 dexX7 <cdg> LTC/CNY went from 279 to 30
04:03 kyle_torpey lol
04:09 Namworld LTC/CNY no market depth
04:09 dexX7 hehe yea
04:15 dexX7 ;;goxlag
04:15 gribble Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
04:15 dexX7 lol
04:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 197 @ 0.0030025 = 0.5915 BTC [+]
04:20 KRS- ;;bids 1065
04:20 gribble There are currently 0.06 bitcoins demanded at or over 1065.0 USD, worth 64.3540146 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0697 seconds
04:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 135 @ 0.0030159 = 0.4071 BTC [+]
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04:49 jurov` ;;bc,stats
04:49 gribble Current Blocks: 273170 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 1005 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 3 hours, 4 minutes, and 23 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 868366812.109 | Estimated Percent Change: 22.75327
04:54 KRS|gotyawallet how significant is this for bitcoin in general?
04:55 KRS|gotyawallet im worried other governments will follow
04:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 53 @ 0.33339714 = 17.67 BTC [-] {15}
04:56 jurov` KRS|gotyawallet: wait for decent translation first
05:00 KRS|gotyawallet right
05:02 dexX7 ;;goxlag
05:02 gribble MtGox lag is 20464018.5412 seconds. During this time, light travels 41009.6640301 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to heliopause (out of the solar system!) (100 AU).
05:04 dexX7 here is something new: http://finance.ifeng.com/a/20131205/11223093_0.shtml reddit says "it's good"..
05:04 dexX7 oh wait, it's the same text, sorry
05:07 dexX7 http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1s5ckc/first_official_document_from_chinese_government/cdu381s
05:07 ozbot furfighter comments on First OFFICIAL document from Chinese government (People's Back of China) abou
05:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2332 @ 0.00080662 = 1.881 BTC [-]
05:19 KRS|gotyawallet if i do really well off this I'm going to go get FUCKED UP at the strip club. Bet that.
05:19 KRS|gotyawallet might take 1 or 2 home with me
05:20 KRS|gotyawallet Gox $914
05:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 38 @ 0.00301404 = 0.1145 BTC [-] {2}
05:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19850 @ 0.00080683 = 16.0156 BTC [+] {2}
05:36 KRS|gotyawallet this is going to take hours to stabilize ya think?
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05:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.14959999 = 0.5984 BTC [+] {2}
05:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.14999999 = 0.6 BTC [+]
05:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.14999999 = 0.3 BTC [+]
05:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.14999999 = 0.3 BTC [+]
06:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8080 @ 0.00080283 = 6.4869 BTC [-] {2}
06:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 58 @ 0.00301598 = 0.1749 BTC [+] {2}
06:18 davout hello assets
06:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.00324999 = 0.1137 BTC [-]
06:28 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves ghash.io is not run by bitfury, no
06:28 mircea_popescu exactly in the sense the hash exchange wasn't run by pirate.
06:29 mircea_popescu and for that matter, anyone can send hashing to ghash, it being a pool.
06:29 mircea_popescu that you send some hashing their way means exactly nothing in any sense.
06:31 mircea_popescu bloctoc the bot only quotes when it can get a datafeed. if it can't it doesn't quote, and its previous quotes expire
06:33 mircea_popescu hello davout
06:34 mircea_popescu usd 24h vwap 1023.03 7day vwap 1023.74. seems we're stabilizing.
06:45 ThickAsThieves lol China is playing the FUD game now I see
06:45 ThickAsThieves I wonder how many coins they are buying
06:46 thestringpuller usd 24h vwap 1023.03 7day vwap 1023.74. << possibly a good time to underwrite options?
06:46 thestringpuller sell deep puts to the bot lol
06:47 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves actually, the legislative strategy of the chinese governments ever since the days of confucius was,
06:47 mircea_popescu make strong worded, vaguie proclamations. this will encourage they who do things they think are wrong to desist,
06:47 mircea_popescu without forcing the bureaucracy to actually explain what is wrong and how to identify it.
06:47 thestringpuller !ticker m s.mpoe
06:47 assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00079975 / 0.00080781 / 0.00081785 (177732 shares, 143.57 BTC), 7D: 0.00078278 / 0.00080056 / 0.0008476 (1566139 shares, 1,253.80 BTC), 30D: 0.0007725 / 0.0008174 / 0.00088996 (5865320 shares, 4,794.36 BTC)
06:48 ThickAsThieves so I read this as banks and the general financial market cant play bitcoin, but everyone else can, including gox
06:48 mircea_popescu iy
06:48 mircea_popescu well, the govt kinda owns the banks
06:49 mircea_popescu so it's really more like, if you make a loss trading bitcoin we'll shoot you. if you make a gain we'll maybe promote you, we'll see about that, don't bet on it.
06:49 ThickAsThieves hehe
06:49 mircea_popescu anyway, who knows. i don't trust my grasp of the chinese intricacies much.
06:50 mircea_popescu unlike the us, these people have had over three thousand years to complicate things.
06:50 ThickAsThieves nor google translate
06:50 ThickAsThieves is there a "real" translation somewhere?
06:50 mircea_popescu no i actually have people that speak the language peering at it for me.
06:50 mircea_popescu this is a serious operation.
06:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 39 @ 0.00324999 = 0.1267 BTC [-]
06:55 ThickAsThieves i dont understand what has even changed with this announcment
06:58 mircea_popescu well, it specifies chinese banks are not to use bitcoin as a currency, as the chief point.
06:58 ThickAsThieves were they?
06:58 mircea_popescu which you know, kinda matches rthe fincen earlier report. bitcoin is, all the pretense of interested parties to the contrary, not a currency,
06:59 mircea_popescu as ruled on trilema, oct 6 2012.
06:59 mircea_popescu not afaik, no.
06:59 ThickAsThieves what did you rule it, a commodity?
06:59 mircea_popescu wow gold
06:59 ThickAsThieves ah yes
06:59 mircea_popescu anyway, some people were contemplating vehicles such as funds
07:00 ThickAsThieves so this means the US will def approve the winklething
07:00 mircea_popescu the chinese do have a serious problem, in the following sense : it's a highly competitive society, much more so than the us was in the 50s. people are very performance driven.
07:00 mircea_popescu the economic situation is dire, the finances are in a mess. everyone is earnestly looking for ways to conserve capital values
07:01 mircea_popescu had this pronouncement not been made, we could have ended up with a rush from chinese provincial authorities buying bitcoins and erecting miner farms
07:01 mircea_popescu so if anything it's good, in that it balances out the govt battle, because the us (all its pretense to the contrary) could not have kept up.
07:02 mircea_popescu in this sense it subtly strengthens bitcoin, because it's current value and recent explosion are both due to the little secret made public also on trilema, ie govts involved.
07:02 mircea_popescu as long as there remains balance bitcoin will do ok.
07:02 ThickAsThieves tldr CHEAP COINZ
07:04 mircea_popescu more like, "the chinese central authorities are not exactly asleep, and picked the right course".
07:06 mircea_popescu anyway, one point that is perhaps not directly obvious to foreigners is that china contains about 10mn people who have the authority to spend various amounts of public funds.
07:06 mircea_popescu it's a strange mix between a command economy and a market economy, and managing it looks more like herding 10mn cats.
07:07 thestringpuller that's a really good observation
07:07 thestringpuller know what i'm sayin'?
07:07 mircea_popescu :p
07:07 ThickAsThieves easy to herd cats if you pavlov them with treats
07:08 ThickAsThieves I can whistle and all my animals come to me
07:08 mircea_popescu this is what they did so far. the problem is there's a finite bulk of treats, and they're trying to soft land it atm
07:09 thestringpuller http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-21/chinas-ghost-cities-are-multiplying << so apparently the chinese like bubbles?
07:09 thestringpuller http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2012/05/China%20Cement.jpg << this graph is kinda funny
07:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3449 = 0.6898 BTC [+]
07:11 mircea_popescu well more like can't easily avoid them
07:11 mircea_popescu the westerners love bubbles, and they could EASILY avoid them
07:13 thestringpuller don't you think the chinese would have learned after building the first ghost city that it doesn't work though?
07:13 thestringpuller so couldn't they easily avoid the real estate bubble they are creating?
07:15 ThickAsThieves ;;ticker
07:15 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1044.00001, Best ask: 1046.9999, Bid-ask spread: 2.99989, Last trade: 1049.4, 24 hour volume: 47832.40001050, 24 hour low: 870.001, 24 hour high: 1240.0, 24 hour vwap: 1082.84601
07:15 ThickAsThieves looks like US is still bullish
07:15 mircea_popescu i doubt they went "o hey, know what'd be cool ? if we built a ghost city!"
07:21 mircea_popescu thestringpuller http://trilema.com/2013/notorious-mp-layin-down-that-subliminal-shit-na-mean/#comment-96545
07:21 mircea_popescu mwahah
07:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14150 @ 0.0007965 = 11.2705 BTC [-]
07:22 mircea_popescu am i pretty fly for a white guy or what.
07:25 ThickAsThieves ha!
07:27 ThickAsThieves http://www.latribune.fr/actualites/economie/france/20131205trib000799423/la-banque-de-france-demonetise-le-bitcoin.html
07:28 ThickAsThieves France singing along
07:28 mircea_popescu my ring feels well kissed.
07:29 mircea_popescu ESPECIALLY seeing all the intervening experts in their own head in the past 13 months opining on the topic as if they knew better.
07:33 ThickAsThieves Have you heard of the " LOYAL3 Social IPO platform"
07:34 ThickAsThieves my mom got this email from a large US Movie Theater corp: "To our AMC Stubs members,
07:34 ThickAsThieves AMC Entertainment Holdings, Inc., the parent company for AMC Theatres, is going public. We are reserving a number of shares in our initial public stock offering (IPO) for you, our most loyal customers, to reserve on a first-come, first-serve basis. The price per share will be determined by negotiations between us and the underwriters of the IPO, but it will be the same price per share
07:34 ThickAsThieves as offered to Wall Street investors.
07:34 ThickAsThieves We will also give you the same 24-hour head start our employees will receive, in order to ensure you have the earliest opportunity to reserve shares at the offering price. While many companies depend on their customers' support every day, those customers don't always get the chance to own a piece of the action at the same price as Wall Street investors. We're offering this exclusive
07:34 ThickAsThieves employee benefit to our AMC Stubs members to express our sincere gratitude for your loyalty.
07:34 ThickAsThieves If this interests you, please click here to learn more.
07:34 ThickAsThieves Please note that to execute this idea, we have opted to use the LOYAL3 Social IPO platform, an innovative new way to bring IPOs to market, where you can buy from $100 to $2,500 of our stock, and sell stock, with no fees. "
07:34 ThickAsThieves sounds like something from the forums
~ 18 minutes ~
07:53 Duffer1 i can't help but feel it's a pr stunt to drum up value to major investors
07:53 ThickAsThieves its also a way to check the temperature
07:54 Duffer1 look even the proles get a piece, give us attention
07:54 ThickAsThieves they ask you to contact them if interested
07:54 ThickAsThieves this may give them some info on how people value it
07:54 ThickAsThieves of course the people they are asking arent even the target audience for their stock...
07:55 Duffer1 i guess i shouldn't knock it until the amount of shares to be made available in this way is known, i'd be shocked if it was more than 2% of the company
07:56 ThickAsThieves i'd be shocked if their Stubs holders and employees could afford 2%
07:56 Duffer1 mm good point
07:56 ThickAsThieves tis an interesting email tho
07:57 ThickAsThieves this China release explicitly explains that bitcoin is not money, but also explicitly states that bitcoin exchanges must use anti-"money" laundering measures
07:57 ThickAsThieves i suppose fiat is the money in that case
07:57 ThickAsThieves nvm
07:58 ThickAsThieves a lil derpy this morning
07:58 ThickAsThieves coffee time
08:03 mircea_popescu sooo, i wake up, there's a turkey in the oven
08:03 mircea_popescu i end up having stuffed turkey for breakfast with a few slices of camembert
08:03 mircea_popescu this WORKS omg. davout you gotta try it.
08:06 ThickAsThieves did you hear about the toejam cheese?
08:06 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves don't go trippin on the camembert yo
08:07 ThickAsThieves while i dont eat cheese anymore, i always preferred the very sharp, hard stuff
08:07 ThickAsThieves like mimolette
08:07 mircea_popescu this was young, but it had possibly the finest velvet micelium i've yet seen.
08:08 mircea_popescu why not eat cheese anyway ? it's what made us white folk smart enough to rule all the other races.
08:08 ThickAsThieves well, i dont think you really want me to answer that
08:09 ThickAsThieves like asking why am i vegan
08:09 ThickAsThieves no one cares
08:09 mircea_popescu just as long as it's not a youtube link
08:09 ThickAsThieves haha
08:09 ThickAsThieves the core of it for me is that i cherish life
08:10 ThickAsThieves simplest way to put it
08:10 mircea_popescu but life w/o camembert is scarcely life. if i offered you the deal of 200 year lifespans as long as you lived in a hamster ball weould you live in a hamster ball ?
08:11 ThickAsThieves that's a much bigger question than cheese
08:11 ThickAsThieves lol
08:12 ThickAsThieves i have no idea if my brain could handle that lifestyle
08:12 ThickAsThieves can people come into my ball?
08:12 mircea_popescu nope.
08:12 mircea_popescu they got germs yo
08:13 ThickAsThieves while i require minimal social interaction, i know humans are social creatures
08:13 ThickAsThieves so odds are i'd go nuts before 200 yrs
08:13 mircea_popescu so you can wave at them through your transparent enclosure
08:13 mircea_popescu and you can irc
08:13 ThickAsThieves how do i IRC, voice recog?
08:13 ThickAsThieves 200 years on IRC hehe
08:14 mircea_popescu no you got a kbd in your bubble
08:15 ThickAsThieves is your point that cows live longer cuz we like their cheese?
08:15 ThickAsThieves i think i missed something
08:16 mircea_popescu my point is that generally speaking restrictive diets are unhealthy. i fail to see any diference between "i shall only eat mcchicken nuggets" and "i shall only eat asparagus".
08:16 mircea_popescu not implying it's what you do, obviously.
08:17 ThickAsThieves i never ate much meat to begin with
08:17 ThickAsThieves cheese tho, yeah
08:17 ThickAsThieves but i have no lack of access to fat
08:17 mircea_popescu now, not feeling like some cheese is one thing, not feeling like cheese for two decades running is another, but not eating cheese because baby jesus disaproves ?
08:17 mircea_popescu fuck baby jesus.
08:18 ThickAsThieves its not religious
08:18 mircea_popescu well my friend, how can you show that ?
08:18 ThickAsThieves its more like how you dont wanna put a warning on bitbet
08:18 mircea_popescu there's many religions.
08:19 ThickAsThieves maybe over time the world is more like the one i idealize
08:19 mircea_popescu you idealise a world without cheeze ?!
08:19 ThickAsThieves no actually
08:19 ThickAsThieves i'm okay with cheese in general
08:19 ThickAsThieves but we cant seem to cheese responsibly
08:20 mircea_popescu anyway, a good side discussion re the cheese that made us smart, see the other satoshi : http://unenumerated.blogspot.ro/2013/11/european-asian-divergence-predates.html
08:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.003014 = 0.1507 BTC [-]
08:20 ThickAsThieves i suppose there is a pinch of spirituality in it too
08:20 ThickAsThieves like if i come back as a cow
08:21 ThickAsThieves lemme fukn graze
08:21 ThickAsThieves dont put me in a box with tubes in all my holes
08:21 mircea_popescu these cows grazed
08:22 ThickAsThieves i can appreciate old-fashioned farm cows
08:22 ThickAsThieves i can even appreciate eating said cow when its time if thats what you wanrt
08:22 jamespeerless what kind of warning do you not want to put on bitnet? about usa laws?
08:22 mircea_popescu http://www.lonelyplanet.com/france/normandy/activities/other/president-farm
08:22 mircea_popescu you can actually go tour their farm
08:23 mircea_popescu jamespeerless http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-12-2013#404449
08:23 mircea_popescu a discussion there
08:23 jamespeerless ah about snackman
08:23 jamespeerless :P
08:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 0.1685 = 0.5055 BTC [+]
08:24 mircea_popescu basically al that does is bloat the ONE page.
08:24 mircea_popescu you can't have everything be the first line.
08:25 ThickAsThieves indeed
08:25 jamespeerless yeah i don't think its needed at all
08:25 ThickAsThieves i disagreed with your not warning people right til you pointed out that it was good training
08:25 mircea_popescu people don't read page 2 so let's fuck up the flow of page 1 by smashing in there a bad summary of page 2
08:25 jamespeerless read the faq's if you have a question
08:25 ThickAsThieves and then i realized you are right
08:25 mircea_popescu then even fewer people read even page 1
08:26 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves i;m more stating it plain for the benefit of the lurker than anything
08:26 jamespeerless i guess you could maybe add a small warning on the receiving address page when they are about to send money only if there's less than X hours until close
08:26 mircea_popescu jamespeerless how would you know ?
08:26 ThickAsThieves being the pied piper of penny bitcoin shares has taught me much in this regard
08:26 ThickAsThieves people need to fucking TRY to get info
08:27 mircea_popescu ;;google charles schmid
08:27 gribble Charles Schmid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Schmid>; Charles Schmid: The Pied Piper of Tucson — Secrets in the Sand ...: <http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/serial_killers/predators/schmid/sand_1.html>; Pied Piper of Tucson: Twisted 1960s killings by Charles Howard ...: <http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/pied-piper-tucson- (1 more message)
08:27 ThickAsThieves just try, please!
08:27 mircea_popescu here's a guy that was fucking a bunch of teenage chicks
08:27 mircea_popescu and then decided to kill some just to see how it is
08:27 ThickAsThieves i get these emails like "I had shares on BTCT, now what" still
08:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.02240001 = 0.2016 BTC [+]
08:28 jamespeerless what's BTCT?
08:28 ThickAsThieves try
08:28 mircea_popescu :D
08:28 mircea_popescu jamespeerless it was glbse v2.
08:29 jamespeerless ah found it
08:30 ThickAsThieves "Mexican cobalt-60 thieves will soon die of radiation exposure, say officials"
08:30 ThickAsThieves lol
08:30 ThickAsThieves "They will, without a doubt, die."
08:30 ThickAsThieves awesome
08:30 mircea_popescu this seems an officious lie.
08:31 ThickAsThieves well its likely in between
08:31 kleeck_ On a long enough timeline, we all die.
08:31 ThickAsThieves the handlers were likely planned to die all along
08:31 pankkake bitbet down?
08:31 mircea_popescu pankkake i see it ?
08:32 KRS|gotyawallet wow anything for a buck
08:32 ThickAsThieves Microsoft labels US government a ‘persistent threat' in plan to cut off NSA spying
08:32 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves i dunno, i imagine it must have been in some sort of container
08:32 deadweasel i see it too, pankkake
08:32 pankkake hmm… I hope it's a temporary problem with OVH
08:32 ThickAsThieves The abandoned cobalt-60 was found removed from its casing about 25 miles from where it was stolen
08:33 pankkake from my other IP I can access it
08:33 mircea_popescu ouch
08:33 mircea_popescu yeah, they're gonna die.
08:33 mircea_popescu this reminds me of a case in brazil some years ago
08:34 ThickAsThieves it's now thought that the two men didn't know what was inside the truck, which was en route to a local storage facility, and only unsealed the material out of curiosity.
08:34 ThickAsThieves poor kitties
08:34 kakobrekla pankkake pm me your ip
08:34 ThickAsThieves ;;bcstats
08:35 gribble Current Blocks: 273196 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 979 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 20 hours, 41 minutes, and 40 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 866930566.7 | Estimated Percent Change: 22.55024
08:35 ThickAsThieves it lowers!
08:35 mircea_popescu ;;google goiania accident
08:35 gribble Goiânia accident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goi%C3%A2nia_accident>; The Radiological Accident in Goiânia - Publications - International ...: <http://www-pub.iaea.org/mtcd/publications/pdf/pub815_web.pdf>; Goiânia´s Legacy Two Decades On: <http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/2008/goiania.html>
08:36 ThickAsThieves amazing stuff that crazy even exists
08:36 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
08:36 ThickAsThieves science!
08:37 mircea_popescu anyway, the secret is just how tolerant of radiation the human body is.
08:37 mircea_popescu in that case, out of hundreds of people exposed four died
08:38 ThickAsThieves There he spread some of it on the cement floor. His six-year-old daughter, Leide das Neves Ferreira, later ate a sandwich while sitting on the floor. She was also fascinated by the blue glow of the powder, and applying it to her body, showed it off to her mother. Dust from the powder fell on the sandwich she was consuming; she eventually absorbed 1.0 GBq, total dose 6.0 Gy, which is
08:38 ThickAsThieves roughly equal to 13 Sv, more than the fatal dose even with treatment.
08:38 deadweasel /mode #bitcoin-assets -c
08:38 deadweasel crap
08:38 deadweasel webchat sucks
08:38 mod6 use irssi
08:39 deadweasel i do
08:39 mod6 !?
08:39 deadweasel my server is funny today, so I'm on webchat, trying to get it back up
08:39 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves can you picture that ?
08:39 deadweasel hosed my networking, is dumb for a remote server
08:39 mod6 deadweasel: ah
08:39 ThickAsThieves it's quite surreal
08:46 ThickAsThieves "Seventh Company Ltd. evaluation has been made based on previous first and second rounds of investments by Havelock Investments Canadian Bitcoin based Fund Exchange during due diligence process and it is indeed a post-money valuation (not pre-money valuation!). But of course evaluation took into consideration total capital invested in the previous rounds by Angel investors and VC, as
08:46 ThickAsThieves well as income and profit estimations. "
08:47 ThickAsThieves this in response to me asking for explanation of valuation
08:47 ThickAsThieves 'post-money valuation'
08:47 mircea_popescu whoever wrote that has significant experience as online tech support and no experience as a finance anything.
08:47 Apocalyptic ^^
08:48 ThickAsThieves lol
08:48 ThickAsThieves please give me millions of $ so I can be worth millions of $
08:49 ThickAsThieves then you can be too!
08:49 ThickAsThieves i started to ask him for actual list of assets
08:49 ThickAsThieves but realized i'd be wasting my time
08:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00078114 = 12.9669 BTC [-]
08:52 mircea_popescu well at least it's a collection of words...
08:54 Apocalyptic ThickAsThieves, did topace himself wrote that ?
08:54 ThickAsThieves i do not know
08:55 mircea_popescu not unless he's now azn.
08:55 ThickAsThieves i assume the quote is from the 7C guy
08:55 ThickAsThieves and that james isnt intimitaly involved other than as dev team for HL
08:55 ThickAsThieves but thats just a guess too
08:56 ThickAsThieves intimately*
08:57 ThickAsThieves i dont know who wrote the prospectus though
08:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.1499 = 0.2998 BTC [-]
08:57 ThickAsThieves but even that document says it can change anything it says at anytime
08:57 ThickAsThieves sooooo
08:58 mircea_popescu people will eventually figure out the importance of being able to talk to the actual guy running the show and making the calls.
08:58 mircea_popescu there's a reason mpex is mpex whereas all the labcoins out there consist of people talking tough but then upon on examination peeling away like onion skins
09:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14995 BTC [+]
09:00 mircea_popescu REP. BOB GOODLATTE (R-VA): Professor Turley, the constitution, the system of separated powers is not simply about stopping one branch of government from usurping another. It's about protecting the liberty of Americans from the dangers of concentrated government power. How does the president's unilateral modification of act of Congress affect both the balance of power between the political branches and the liberty inter
09:00 mircea_popescu ests of the American people?
09:00 mircea_popescu JONATHAN TURLEY: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The danger is quite severe. The problem with what the president is doing is that he's not simply posing a danger to the constitutional system. He's becoming the very danger the Constitution was designed to avoid. That is the concentration of power in every single branch.
09:00 mircea_popescu o look, the us pot is cooking up.
09:01 ThickAsThieves link?
09:01 davout mircea_popescu: haha i will, you should try yesterdays sushi wrapped in the morning crepes, it does work too
09:01 mircea_popescu sushi never gets to be yesterday's here.
09:01 mircea_popescu i got catwomenz.
09:01 ThickAsThieves got it
09:02 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves kinda circlejerking each other, obviously, but the stuff they have to say...
09:02 mircea_popescu o nelly.
09:02 mircea_popescu in other news :
09:02 mircea_popescu Few studies have examined a direct causative effect between smoking marijuana and gynecomastia. A report in 1972 made the initial connection between cannabis and gynecomastia.
09:03 mircea_popescu did you know manboobs come from pot ?
09:03 ThickAsThieves well it messes with hormone levels
09:03 ThickAsThieves but it also makes you fatter
09:03 ThickAsThieves soo...
09:04 mircea_popescu so can i have an m to the a to the n to the booooo-oooobs
09:16 ThickAsThieves Good afternoon assbot
09:16 assbot hi
09:19 mircea_popescu http://shtfplan.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/major-stock-market-crash-in-january.gif
09:19 mircea_popescu shit people come up with
09:28 topace [08:53:31] <Apocalyptic> ThickAsThieves, did topace himself wrote that ?
09:28 topace ^ i did not
09:29 topace ThickAsThieves is correct, i have nothing to do with underwriting new listings any more
09:29 topace and i questioned the valuation as well
09:29 mircea_popescu topace get a signed statement to that effect, you never know when you need one.
09:30 topace mircea_popescu: its all in the contracts we signed already
09:31 mircea_popescu good thinking there. aite.
09:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16858 @ 0.00078889 = 13.2991 BTC [+]
09:50 Diablo-D3 +ticker
09:50 Diablo-D3 ;;ticker
09:50 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1090.0, Best ask: 1099.0, Bid-ask spread: 9.00000, Last trade: 1099.0, 24 hour volume: 53856.39443812, 24 hour low: 870.001, 24 hour high: 1240.0, 24 hour vwap: 1079.57079
09:50 Diablo-D3 ;;ticker --market coinbase
09:50 gribble Coinbase BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1005.72, Best ask: 1028.26, Bid-ask spread: 22.54000, Last trade: 1016.03, 24 hour volume: None, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: None
09:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MG] 5555 @ 0.000158 = 0.8777 BTC [+]
09:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.NSA] 8888 @ 0.00015 = 1.3332 BTC [+]
09:51 mircea_popescu In a sign of the times, whistleblowers who help bust illegal gold shipments can get a bigger reward in India than those who help catch cocaine and heroin smugglers.
09:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 493 @ 0.0006499 = 0.3204 BTC [+]
09:55 kleeck_ http://i.imgur.com/wiygh0o.jpg
09:56 ThickAsThieves Can 7C compete? http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/4/5175786/jane-austen-mmo-gets-funding-promises-18th-century-delights
09:57 ThickAsThieves two brains, no fair
09:58 ThickAsThieves "while traditional MMOs have epic raids, we have extravagant balls"
09:58 ThickAsThieves hahaha
09:59 kleeck_ LOL
09:59 kleeck_ No way.
09:59 kleeck_ That's a REAL quote?
09:59 ThickAsThieves yep
10:00 ThickAsThieves watch the vid
10:00 ThickAsThieves a woman quotes some real gems
10:00 kleeck_ I WANT TO BE THE BELL OF THE BALL!
10:00 kleeck_ " various game scenarios like dinner parties"
10:00 kleeck_ ROFL
10:01 kleeck_ What will guilds be called? "Knitting Clubs"?
10:02 kleeck_ "Unlike many multi-player games, it's not about kill or be killed but invite or be invited. Gossip is our weapon of choice. Instead of raids, we will have grand balls. Instead of dungeons, we will have dinner parties."
10:02 ThickAsThieves Biggest Balls Guild
10:02 kleeck_ I cannot wait until 4Chan picks this up as a target.
10:02 pankkake so it's a mmorpg for little girls?
10:02 pankkake haha, yeah
10:02 kleeck_ And grandmothers, apparently.
10:03 kleeck_ "Did you hear? xxKILLERSLUTxx didn't get an invite to the King's Ball!" *GASP!*
10:04 ThickAsThieves where's my Google Glass invite
10:04 ThickAsThieves are people giving away codes anywhere?
10:06 mircea_popescu this is one of those things that sounds good on paper and then goes nowhere.
10:06 mircea_popescu well... this doesn't sound that good on paper, either.
10:07 pankkake what, having a 24/7 spycam streaming to the NSA?
10:08 pankkake though I'd like to try the eye thing. and know what optometrists think about it
10:08 pankkake having some sort of permanent HUD would be great
10:10 davout just put it on when you fuck some bitches to get the NSA guys all hard
10:14 kakobrekla ok so i just made a cup of this ethiopian coffee you assets scammed me into buying
10:14 kakobrekla its not bad, but nothing special so far, maybe the dosage is a bit off
10:15 kakobrekla a bit like romanian beer
10:15 asciilifeform monocle displays are terrible.
10:16 asciilifeform i own one - http://www.loper-os.org/vintage/paralleleye/eye.html - (1989! and higher res than virtually all modern 'consumer' ones) but 15 minutes, and then headache.
10:17 ThickAsThieves the codes are cheap on ebay i see
10:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14995 BTC [+]
10:17 kakobrekla what do you do with the code then
10:17 ThickAsThieves you buy a pair
10:17 ThickAsThieves and you are then part of the Explorer program
10:17 kakobrekla so you buy a code with which you can buy a pair
10:18 kakobrekla is there a code i must buy to buy the code?
10:18 ThickAsThieves which lets you get replacements and upgrades
10:18 pankkake well it also must depend on people. I know I am very subject to weird stuff in my eyes. can't do that 3D shit or even images moving randomly
10:18 jurov` why pair? they make lefthanded version too?
10:18 mircea_popescu kakobrekla romanian beer is not bad ?!
10:18 kakobrekla i just thoguht , .. pair of eyes ...
10:18 kakobrekla shit.
10:19 ThickAsThieves 3D bugs me too, but for some reason it was fine for me during a recent thor viewing
10:19 kakobrekla just a bit watery
10:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.0029 = 0.232 BTC [+]
10:19 kakobrekla is not bad no.
10:19 mircea_popescu a hey. i thought it's kinda meh
10:20 ThickAsThieves what style beer do romanians do?
10:20 pankkake well, those things will be a goldmine for orthoptists
10:21 kakobrekla im not beer expert , but i had a lot of different ones
10:21 kakobrekla the last one i had was in romania actually
10:23 mircea_popescu i dunno really, i never drink the stuff
10:26 jurov` http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/12/scientist-developed-malware-covertly-jumps-air-gaps-using-inaudible-sound/
10:26 ozbot Scientist-developed malware prototype covertly jumps air gaps using inaudible sound | Ars Technica
10:28 jurov` i'm sticking to my rpi for airgapping purposes
10:28 asciilifeform the same rpi with a MB of closed source blob running on dedicated core?
10:28 mircea_popescu communicated != jumps
10:28 jurov` what's the blob gonna do?
10:28 mircea_popescu this is a sophomore project, build audio relay.
10:29 asciilifeform seems like nobody ever heard of... modem.
10:29 mircea_popescu well not the kids of today, no.
10:29 mircea_popescu i used to get my first torrents off tv, yo.
10:29 jurov` well everyone was "hurr durr aint use ultrasound, there are filters"
10:29 mircea_popescu jurov` that part yeah
10:30 asciilifeform the phun part is that you needn't use ultrasound.
10:30 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/a-simple-example-as-to-why-fiat-institutions-cant-stand/ << me being a bitch.
10:30 ozbot A simple example as to why fiat institutions can’t stand pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
10:30 asciilifeform high-res, stable oscillators in modern machines let you pull, say, the following trick:
10:30 asciilifeform 'click' sound to start counter; next 'click' - value of counter is transmitted word.
10:30 asciilifeform (with heavy error-correction, naturally.)
10:31 asciilifeform no ultrasound, and still pretty good bandwidth.
10:32 mircea_popescu you could make a crickets app and nobody'd ever know
10:32 jurov` or use modulation that sounds like white noise
10:33 asciilifeform and, the grand prize: say the victim owns a fleet of PCs which pick up interference somewhere in the 25-300MHz range.
10:33 asciilifeform then, transmitter using... displays.
10:33 asciilifeform (example: http://xtrmntr.org/priikone/programs/tempest-AM-README)
10:35 ThickAsThieves so will noise cancellation be a future security feature?
10:35 ThickAsThieves they already have good grasp of doing it
10:35 jurov` that falls under RF compatibility
10:35 ThickAsThieves for things like headphones and such
10:35 jurov` but everyone cheats to meet rf norms
10:35 jurov` cuz it's expensive to do it right
10:36 asciilifeform actually, noise cancellation circuit, given that it emits sound, makes a great side channel.
10:36 asciilifeform not to mention that you can craft periodic signals that the canceller will actually amplify.
10:36 ThickAsThieves oh well
10:36 pankkake just listen to merzbow and you'll be safe
10:36 asciilifeform also you needn't a speaker to produce sound.
10:37 asciilifeform i have several laptops where i can hear the cpu easily enough
10:37 nubbins` nod re: canceller amplifying
10:37 asciilifeform why? inductor buzz in the power supply circuit
10:37 nubbins` noise cancellation ain't great for unexpected signals
10:37 kakobrekla common on GPUs
10:37 nubbins` useless really
10:38 jurov` just demand proper RF compatibility, as used in TV studios
10:38 asciilifeform nubbins`: naturally you can't decode individual instructions from the buzz - but you can modulate it if desired
10:38 jurov` you just have to pay 100x more for stuff
10:38 pankkake also you can control the fan of GPUs easily
10:38 ThickAsThieves as a wanna-be audiophile i dont trust noise cancellation not to fuck up the sound anyway
10:38 nubbins` nod
10:38 asciilifeform pankkake: nothing to do with the fan
10:38 pankkake just saying it's another source of communication
10:38 nubbins` all noise cancellation is
10:39 nubbins` is a mic and a circuit that precisely inverts the sound coming into the mic
10:39 ThickAsThieves yep
10:39 nubbins` great if you're on an airplane
10:39 nubbins` useless if you're seated next to a shrieking baby
10:39 asciilifeform nubbins`: not quite. there's a delay loop in there. thinkaboutit.
10:39 ThickAsThieves hehe
10:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.05499999 = 0.11 BTC [-]
10:39 asciilifeform speed of sound being finite.
10:39 nubbins` ah, i suppose, yeah
10:40 nubbins` i just figured they used tungsten wires to carry the signal ;)
10:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17630 @ 0.00078219 = 13.79 BTC [-]
10:44 nubbins` amagi metals: "The bad news is that there is a huge snow storm that hit us here in Denver, so there may be some shipping delays from FedEx and USPS after we get your orders out."
10:44 nubbins` somebody mentioned yesterday about -18F in denver?
10:48 asciilifeform from the crackpot brigade: https://likeinamirror.wordpress.com/2013/12/01/satoshi-nakamoto-is-probably-nick-szabo/
10:51 nubbins` from the crack brigade: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/rob-ford-documents-8-revelations-from-wiretap-evidence-1.2451620
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10:51 mircea_popescu !b 2
10:51 mircea_popescu lol
10:51 mircea_popescu nubbins` somebody was me.
10:52 nubbins` ah yes indeed
10:52 mircea_popescu i am the keeper of the aforeknowledges
10:52 nubbins` no doubt their silver rounds are snapping in half down there
10:52 nubbins` and their marihuana cigarettes will not stay lit
10:52 mircea_popescu lol
10:52 nubbins` and their uh
10:53 nubbins` has hockey started yet? those guys are probably fine
10:55 ThickAsThieves why is Ford's brotherly relationship news?
10:55 ThickAsThieves he's an emotional scammer?
10:56 nubbins` he's a toronto city councillor
10:56 nubbins` yes, that's right, the fine folks of toronto voted two idiot brothers into office
10:57 ThickAsThieves but who cares if they arm wrestle?
10:57 nubbins` ah, nobody, i suppose
10:57 nubbins` i think the point being made is that they always support each other
10:57 nubbins` except for that one time when doug was mad at rob
10:57 nubbins` around the time he was accused of smoking crack
10:58 nubbins` the implication being that doug knew it was true, and was quite upset
10:58 mircea_popescu in other news, we've managed to baffle greenspan
10:58 nubbins` ah, he's had his gunwales padded?
10:58 nubbins` wait, sorry, no. other baffle.
10:59 mircea_popescu "I do not understand where the backing of Bitcoin is coming from. There is no fundamental means of "repaying' it by any means that is universally accepted."
10:59 pankkake yeah, he said bitcoin isn't backed by anything!
10:59 pankkake who would ever use such a currency!
10:59 ThickAsThieves lol
10:59 ThickAsThieves http://www.loper-os.org/?p=752
10:59 ozbot Loper OS » For Your Eyes Only
10:59 asciilifeform 'sure, this carriage is horseless, but where are the reins? gotta be somewhere.'
10:59 ThickAsThieves i like that story
10:59 mircea_popescu "I haven't been able to identfy the intrinsic value of Bitcoin - maybe someone else can...
10:59 mircea_popescu but if you ask me if this is a bubble in bitcoin... yeah it's a bubble.
10:59 mircea_popescu the funny part is... bernanke just said gold is a bubble
10:59 mircea_popescu for about the same reasons.
11:00 ThickAsThieves so he says I dunno wtf is going on, but lemme tell ya, it's def a bubble
11:00 mircea_popescu my take home ios that it sucks having kids. because if you have kids then you have to find employment, which transforms you into bernanke. and then you grow old, which makes you greenspan.
11:00 mircea_popescu i'd rather not be stupid.
11:01 ThickAsThieves but how will your vision for the world be achieved once you pass?
11:01 ThickAsThieves need more little mirceas
11:01 mircea_popescu for what purpose ?
11:01 ThickAsThieves posthumous revenge?
11:01 mircea_popescu well... inasmuch as i didn't make the original one,
11:01 pankkake I don't think he acknowledges his mortality
11:01 mircea_popescu go ahead and make more little mirceas
11:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.0029 = 0.58 BTC [+]
11:02 nubbins` "To read about all those other people you’ve got to buy the Professional version or even the Enterprise Edition."
11:02 ThickAsThieves hehe
11:02 mircea_popescu pankkake i just don't acknowledge the relevance of the world past that point.
11:02 ThickAsThieves until you are reborn a milk cow in the US ;)
11:02 asciilifeform nubbins`: the author of that piece did turn up eventually.
11:03 mircea_popescu maybe i'm reborn a mastiff on a porn set in california.
11:03 mircea_popescu named Ma Stiff.
11:04 nubbins` no relation to Ma Barker: http://missouriwomen.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/bloody-mama-1970_imagelarge.jpg
11:04 mircea_popescu :D
11:04 mircea_popescu i like it when people catch on vague maladroit references i make
11:04 nubbins` any sharper and i'd cut myself
11:05 nubbins` http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2013-0-5-BTC-Brass-Casascius-Physical-Bitcoin-REDEEMED-/331076143888?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item4d15ad0b10&_uhb=1
11:05 ozbot 2013 0 5 BTC Brass Casascius Physical Bitcoin Redeemed | eBay
11:05 nubbins` 7 hours to go
11:06 jurov` gpg signed, sent back under same name
11:06 mircea_popescu ouch
11:06 jurov` filthy racist nao
11:06 ThickAsThieves hahaha
11:06 mircea_popescu that was perhaps not the best move.
11:06 nubbins` ahahahahahahahahahaha
11:06 mircea_popescu if they get pissed off it's one thing, but what if
11:07 nubbins` "what's this niggers.asc in our network drive?"
11:07 mircea_popescu they really like it and ivnite you to weird aryan union events
11:07 nubbins` ah, this raises a point
11:07 nubbins` i should really back up my pgp keys and put them somewhere safe
11:07 kakobrekla what lol 140$ for a piece of brass
11:07 nubbins` kakobrekla: i know, rite?
11:07 kakobrekla at least it isnt 3btc like mp paid!
11:08 thestringpuller lolololol
11:08 pankkake someone should make chocolate bitcoins
11:08 nubbins` well maybe i should glue it to a cufflink.
11:08 nubbins` pankkake: it's been done
11:08 mircea_popescu lol
11:08 mircea_popescu make it into a prince albert.
11:08 nubbins` http://www.ebay.ca/itm/3-Bitcoin-Chocolate-Gold-Foil-Coins-NO-BTC-VALUE-Casascius-1-Liberty-Coin-Bonus-/281218761544?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4179f1c348&_uhb=1
11:08 ozbot 3 Bitcoin Chocolate Gold Foil Coins NO BTC Value Casascius $1 Liberty Coin Bonus | eBay
11:08 nubbins` haha
11:08 nubbins` bitcoin PA ring
11:08 mircea_popescu omfg, i have the best idea ever!
11:08 nubbins` "what
11:08 nubbins` 's backing this?"
11:08 mircea_popescu make little btc addresses and put them into lolipops
11:08 mircea_popescu sell the lolis
11:08 mircea_popescu for btc.
11:08 nubbins` "200 pounds of muscle and sinew"
11:08 ThickAsThieves bitcoin pasties?
11:08 kakobrekla i got a few of those 1 btc ones empty and full, maybe its time for the market to have em
11:09 mircea_popescu you can win anywhere between 0.001 and 1 btc
11:09 mircea_popescu the thing sells for 0.01 or we
11:09 nubbins` kako, the going rate seems to be 140-160usd, regardless of denomination
11:09 kakobrekla hm
11:09 kakobrekla i better wait till cas dude is in jail
11:09 kakobrekla they will go for 1600 then
11:09 mircea_popescu good idea.
11:09 nubbins` ah, i don't think he's gonna go to jail
11:09 ThickAsThieves mp will your lollipop factory be all nude women to prevent theft?
11:09 nubbins` just get the clampers put on his biz
11:10 nubbins` ThickAsThieves: the canadian mint does this
11:10 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves well... women may be inadequate. nude 12yos ?
11:10 ThickAsThieves better staff a dentist
11:10 mircea_popescu btcloli
11:10 nubbins` you can't let people with teeth into the building
11:10 mircea_popescu taking puns to new highs/lows.
11:10 pankkake nude diabetics. if they lick they die?
11:10 ThickAsThieves LOLipops
11:11 nubbins` kakobrekla: which full ones do you have?
11:11 kakobrekla dunno
11:11 kakobrekla 1 btc
11:12 kakobrekla they are of golden color
11:12 nubbins` year?
11:12 kakobrekla but 100% brass guaranteed!
11:12 nubbins` .999 fine brass
11:12 kakobrekla ok ok
11:12 kakobrekla oh and one is also silver
11:13 kakobrekla 5 btc empty
11:13 kakobrekla i bought them empty
11:13 nubbins` ah
11:13 nubbins` i'd like an empty 5 ;(
11:13 kakobrekla the full one is 2012
11:13 kakobrekla if that means anything
11:14 nubbins` not a remarkable coin
11:14 kakobrekla FUCK YOU
11:14 nubbins` heh!
11:14 mircea_popescu lol i see trade is proceeding well
11:14 nubbins` i'll give ya 0.03 for the 5
11:14 kakobrekla that like 3 bucks or something
11:14 nubbins` 30!
11:15 kakobrekla yeah like i said, 3
11:15 nubbins` trailing zeroes are significant :(
11:15 kakobrekla im going to trade them for buttcoin pic
11:15 kakobrekla any takers?
11:15 nubbins` oof, not w/ me
11:16 mircea_popescu kakobrekla make it wives and girlfriends only
11:16 mircea_popescu the buttcoin wags club
11:16 kakobrekla :D
11:18 ll lol this chan is awesome
11:18 nubbins` ^
11:18 assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1493908/plain/)
11:18 mircea_popescu !b 2
11:20 nubbins` sometimes i wonder about my cat
11:20 nubbins` http://imgur.com/8gp0nzq
11:20 ozbot imgur: the simple image sharer
11:20 ThickAsThieves did the Gold bitbets score any donations?
11:20 ThickAsThieves the cat needs a sleep mask
11:21 kakobrekla you see where paying dividends brings you to....
11:21 mircea_popescu ;p;
11:21 nubbins` she does
11:21 ThickAsThieves i'm just interested kako
11:22 ThickAsThieves for the drama
11:22 kakobrekla i dont know
11:22 kakobrekla lets see if the forum heats up
11:22 nubbins` http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-12-05/china-s-pboc-bans-financial-companies-from-bitcoin-transactions.html
11:22 ozbot China Bans Financial Companies From Bitcoin Transactions - Bloomberg
11:22 jurov` shat's gold bitbets?
11:22 jurov` *what
11:23 ThickAsThieves nubbins you missed the great crash Dec 5th, 2013
11:23 ThickAsThieves of
11:24 mircea_popescu jurov` the gold vs btc price bet
11:25 kakobrekla anyway wouldnt publishing such info prematurely be sketchy
11:25 kakobrekla what if the late bet was 24 mio btc
11:25 kakobrekla everyone on this chan would buy bbet
11:25 mircea_popescu with ltc
11:25 kakobrekla heh
11:25 ThickAsThieves i suppose
11:26 ThickAsThieves i can wait
11:26 ThickAsThieves if there's drama
11:26 ThickAsThieves itll find you
11:26 mircea_popescu drama is hard to get these days
11:27 mircea_popescu diff is insane.
11:27 nubbins` tat, guess i slept through it
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11:46 nubbins` huh
11:46 nubbins` https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=COG.F
11:46 nubbins` https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=COG.F2
11:46 ThickAsThieves sigh
11:47 nubbins` http://www.recognizethisblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/floodgates.jpg
11:48 ll hmm whats the KENXPL one
11:49 ThickAsThieves hmm
11:49 Korbman odd
11:49 ThickAsThieves didnt even bother with a description on that one :)
11:49 nubbins` ah
11:49 nubbins` kenilworth
11:49 ThickAsThieves word
11:49 nubbins` some sort of diamondcoin mining operation
11:49 nubbins` ;p
11:49 Korbman lol pull labcoin, add kenilworth
11:49 Korbman :P
11:49 ThickAsThieves haha
11:49 nubbins` labcoin is still there :P
11:50 Korbman for now
11:50 nubbins` market cap 3 btc
11:52 dexX7 ;;buy 80000 usd
11:52 gribble (buy [--long] <amount> <thing> [at|@] <priceperunit> <otherthing> [<notes>]) -- Logs a buy order for <amount> units of <thing>, at a price of <price> per unit, in units of <otherthing>. Use the optional <notes> field to put in any special notes. <price> may include an arithmetical expression, and {(mtgox|bitstamp)(ask|bid|last|high|low|avg)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, last, high, (1 more message)
11:53 dexX7 :(
11:53 ThickAsThieves ;;market buy 80000
11:53 gribble This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 26053.649 bitcoins, for a total of 344391906.6772 USD and take the price to 1000000000.0000. | Data vintage: 112.7465 seconds
11:53 ThickAsThieves ;;market buy 80
11:53 gribble A market order to buy 80 bitcoins right now would take 86200.7744 USD and would take the last price up to 1085.9990 USD, resulting in an average price of 1077.5097 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 128.2626 seconds
11:53 ThickAsThieves close enough :)
11:53 dexX7 yup, thanks :)
11:54 ThickAsThieves ;;market buy 80 usd
11:54 gribble (market buy [--usd] [--market <market>] <value>) -- Calculate the effect on the market depth of a market buy order of <value> bitcoins. If <market> is provided, uses that exchange. Default is mtgox. If '--usd' option is given, <value> denotes the size of the order in USD.
11:54 nubbins` http://www.businessinsider.com/baml-initiates-coverage-on-bitcoin-2013-12
11:54 ozbot BAML Initiates Coverage On Bitcoin - Business Insider
11:54 TomServo so close! :)
11:54 ThickAsThieves ;;market buy --usd 80000
11:54 gribble A market order to buy 80000.0000 USD worth of bitcoins right now would buy 74.290258 bitcoins and would take the last price up to 1085.9990 USD, resulting in an average price of 1076.8572 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 181.6505 seconds
11:54 ThickAsThieves there it is
11:54 dexX7 ah
11:55 ThickAsThieves "our fair value analysis implies a maximum market capitalization of Bitcoin of $15bn"
11:56 ThickAsThieves would love to see that report
11:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34479998 BTC [-]
11:58 jamespeerless its already basically at 15bn?
11:58 jamespeerless so they're claiming this is the max?
11:58 nubbins` more or less
11:58 nubbins` they said $1300
11:59 nubbins` "Breaking: Largest, most authoritarian government in the world manages to slightly inconvenience Bitcoin for an hour or so."
11:59 ThickAsThieves jamespeerless, the article basically says "We intend to buy bitcoins, please don't rally til we have."
11:59 jamespeerless :P
12:01 ThickAsThieves a commenter: "If you found this article useful, please donate BtC (preferably before they become even more worthless). 1HjVaQegDCoDrGgW"
12:01 nubbins` BtC
12:02 ThickAsThieves bit the coin
12:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33299795 BTC [-]
12:02 dexX7 ThickAsThieves: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-05/bofaml-sees-bitcoin-fair-value-1300 here are some parts of the report
12:02 kakobrekla you know what "bit coin" means in slovenian
12:02 kakobrekla to be a horse.
12:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33299795 BTC [-]
12:03 pankkake a coin backed by horses would work wonders in romania
12:03 ThickAsThieves well the report already is retarded
12:03 ThickAsThieves it starts with US usage stats
12:04 ThickAsThieves US personal consumption expenditures totaled $11trn in 2012
12:04 ThickAsThieves Household checking deposits and cash totaled $0.7trn in 2012
12:04 ThickAsThieves Dividing the former by the latter, we get 0.07 (which we will refer to as velocity from now on)
12:04 pankkake "Given Bitcoin does not pay any interest and that there are no investment instruments (equities or bonds) that are denominated in Bitcoin"
12:04 ThickAsThieves cause i closed XBOND, sorry Wall St
12:06 ThickAsThieves "We don’t have an informed view on this subject..."
12:06 ThickAsThieves that's better
12:06 ThickAsThieves (taken a bit out of context)
12:07 KRS|gotyawallet The horses backed coin would work equally as well in Somalia and Croatia.
12:07 ThickAsThieves "Bottom-line: maximum market capitalization for Bitcoin’s as a store of value = $5bn"
12:07 dexX7 it all seems random
12:07 ThickAsThieves i guess they gotta start somewhere
12:08 ThickAsThieves now some other firm can be like nah, here's a better way
12:08 dexX7 true
12:08 ThickAsThieves the irony being that fair market value is so easy to find
12:08 nubbins` hmm
12:08 ThickAsThieves ;;ticker
12:08 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1064.69472, Best ask: 1078.787, Bid-ask spread: 14.09228, Last trade: 1060.13587, 24 hour volume: 56785.86176932, 24 hour low: 870.001, 24 hour high: 1240.0, 24 hour vwap: 1076.51875
12:08 nubbins` il neige aujourd'hui :(
12:09 pankkake pourquoi la frimousse triste ?
12:09 nubbins` je n'aime pas les temps froid ;(
12:10 ThickAsThieves je m'appele TAT
12:10 Apocalyptic *appelle
12:10 nubbins` c'est un super lel
12:10 ThickAsThieves oui
12:10 nubbins` nous allons donner pankkake un mal de tete ;/
12:10 Apocalyptic heh
12:11 pankkake I've been often confused on the number of P and L on appelle. appelle, appel, but apeller
12:11 Apocalyptic pankkake, ça s'utilise encore "frimousse" de nos jours ?
12:12 pankkake ça ne s'utilise pas, on utilise "smiley", but it felt silly using an English word when purposely using French
12:12 ThickAsThieves "Criminals setting "fair" value to the Magic the Gathering card version of currency. That's fucking rich."
12:13 nubbins` not as rich as all of us
12:13 nubbins` AM
12:13 nubbins` I
12:13 nubbins` RITE?!
12:13 ThickAsThieves lol
12:13 nubbins` srsly, just cut the top off a faberger egg so my cat wouldn't have to drink out of a dish like some kind of fucking prole
12:14 ThickAsThieves lol
12:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 21 @ 0.0226 = 0.4746 BTC [+]
12:17 pankkake gangsta rap should promote bitcoin. too bad casacsius didn't make bitcoin pendants
12:17 nubbins` l'utilisation de mots anglais dans une phrase française semble un peu bizarre
12:18 pankkake les québécois ne le font pas, mais les français si
12:18 nubbins` although i suppose you feel the same way when you read "well, folks, let's go to the restaurant for lunch!"
12:18 topace is anyone doing just-dice graphs like there used to be for satoshi dice ?
12:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.0226 = 0.1356 BTC [+]
12:18 nubbins` les québécois n'est pas français ;p
12:18 pankkake Americans who use French words to appear smart (redditors) are funny
12:18 pankkake c'est sûr
12:19 nubbins` pankkake: around the time of the "freedom fries" thing, i read an article where the guy said we should stop using ALL french loanwords
12:19 nubbins` he then proceeded to cross out all french words in his article and replace them
12:19 pankkake good luck with that
12:19 nubbins` i know right?
12:19 nubbins` took him three lines to describe the place where he would eat
12:20 nubbins` "Restau... no, caf... no, uh..."
12:20 nubbins` the french embassy had no comment, except to say that french fries were invented in belgium
12:20 pankkake restaurant in American = mcdonald's
12:21 mircea_popescu pankkake> "Given Bitcoin does not pay any interest and that there are no investment instruments (equities or bonds) that are denominated in Bitcoin" << herp.
12:21 mircea_popescu given that retards discussing bitcoin have no clue, we predict continued drama and lulz.
12:22 nubbins` dunno, my bitcoins have paid plenty of interest
12:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 132 @ 0.00299598 = 0.3955 BTC [+] {2}
12:22 nubbins` maybe they bought the wrong kind
12:22 mircea_popescu maybe they bought the wrong color.
12:22 mircea_popescu got themselves some of jurov's milky nigger.txt coins
12:23 pankkake I have a fiat account that gives me a few percent per year. I used to watch it and move money it/out etc.
12:23 pankkake bitcoin kinda changed my persective
12:23 pankkake -typos
12:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02485399 = 0.1243 BTC [+] {3}
12:23 pankkake there's still no ObamaCoin!
12:23 nubbins` asdsfdsfgfddgfdsg
12:23 nubbins` leel
12:23 mircea_popescu <Apocalyptic> pankkake, ça s'utilise encore "frimousse" de nos jours ? << i was thinking. fucking ordinateur and "frimousse"
12:24 nubbins` ordinateur is a brutal word
12:24 pankkake I like ordinateur !
12:24 nubbins` internet words are always tricky
12:24 pankkake frimousse is cute, *too* cute
12:25 nubbins` when i did web dev, we'd have to send message bundles off to get translated
12:25 mircea_popescu it's cute in the sense of 30yo unshaved woman that can't poledance pestering her cuckolded "bf" on xmas eve.
12:25 nubbins` you'd have people translating the word "click", "email", etc multiple ways in the same document
12:26 nubbins` and of course half the translators were quebecois and the other half were acadiens
12:27 nubbins` and just now, i learned that half a million acadiens moved to louisiana.
12:27 nubbins` huh.
12:27 nubbins` and just NOW, i'm realizing that's where the word "cajun" comes from
12:28 mircea_popescu lol
12:28 mircea_popescu acadjuien
12:28 mircea_popescu seems pretty obvious
12:28 deadweasel my cajun neighbors, good people.
12:28 deadweasel resistant to the governments nonsense. very resistent.
12:28 nubbins` well, that's france for ya
12:29 nubbins` er, the french
12:30 nubbins` i'm sure pankkake is preparing to throw his wooden shoes into some gears as we speak
12:30 pankkake the French worship the State
12:30 pankkake they might not like the government, they like the State
12:30 mircea_popescu this is true
12:30 nubbins` nod
12:30 mircea_popescu ridiculous, but true
12:30 deadweasel then the cajuns have moved far enough away from the french, thank jesus.
12:31 nubbins` quebecois are the same way
12:31 deadweasel truly I have no malice for the french, it's conditioned into me.
12:31 nubbins` see for reference, last year's casseroles protests
12:31 pankkake well, governments fail to do anything good every year, but you know, the next one is going to be great!
12:32 nubbins` http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oAJBhNtr04
12:32 ozbot Casseroles 'Pots and Pans' Montreal Protest Video - YouTube
12:32 pankkake but I have to admit I like the current protests
12:32 nubbins` man, that got me so fucking angry last year
12:32 nubbins` SO goddamn angry
12:34 nubbins` non a la loi speciale!
12:34 mircea_popescu so seriously, did that fortune guy ever manage to short btc ?
12:35 mircea_popescu "À toujours vouloir bien paraître, je crois que le Parti Québécois enfoncera un autre clou dans son cercueil. Le Parti Québécois semble servir jour après jour les intérêts des riches avec leurs visées néolibérales anglo-saxonnes. Les assistés sociaux, les étudiants, les francophones et maintenant les travailleurs pâtiront. "
12:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 77 @ 0.00299599 = 0.2307 BTC [+]
12:35 mircea_popescu holy shit, the french speaking canadians imagine they are going to be MORE socialist than the anglo-saxons ?!
12:35 mircea_popescu lmao.
12:36 nubbins` the PQ sucks
12:36 mircea_popescu that aside.
12:36 mircea_popescu these people actually believe what's wrong with the us etc is that they are stepping too much on the throat of the proletariat ?!
12:36 deadweasel nobody can believe that
12:37 nubbins` ah
12:37 nubbins` in that context, anglo-saxon essentially should be translated as "bogeyman"
12:37 nubbins` or capital-O Outsider, w/e
12:37 mircea_popescu dude, how about no futher "dignite" of any kind for five years.
12:37 mircea_popescu then we see.
12:37 pankkake néolibéral too
12:37 nubbins` ^
12:38 mircea_popescu who the fuck heard of dignity for the poor.
12:38 pankkake we have « ultralibéral » in France
12:38 mircea_popescu that's why they're poor, to be humble.
12:38 nubbins` the PQ thought they had it knocked
12:38 mircea_popescu fucking upside world.
12:38 nubbins` huge protests, PQ to the rescue! repeal the special law!
12:38 nubbins` then they realized the population wasn't finished with being upset
12:39 gesell mtgox split order javascript console script, if interested http://pastebin.com/tESPiTvg pretty simple
12:39 nubbins` pauline marois is way worse than jean charest
12:39 ThickAsThieves this guy... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348468.msg3838759#msg3838759
12:40 ThickAsThieves getting so tired of all is babbling like he is in-the-know and some kind of soothsayer
12:40 nubbins` but dude, you're missing the human element
12:40 ThickAsThieves thats cuz i am robot
12:41 ThickAsThieves assbot is my wife
12:41 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves if the dork you were quoting earlier can opine about what the mkt cap of bitcoin should be,
12:41 mircea_popescu then why can't random forum retard ?
12:41 assbot fuck me in the ass
12:41 mircea_popescu exactly same quality/material.
12:41 nubbins` ThickAsThieves: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wagkBedzwI8
12:42 nubbins` ah, wait, ^^ hopes restored
12:42 KRS|gotyawallet ThickAsThieves: isn't $5BB market cap only midcap at best
12:42 nubbins` good thing you keep backups
12:42 ThickAsThieves basically they want to paint their obsessive passive aggression as some kind humanitarian effort or something
12:42 ThickAsThieves assbot, grease, or no?
12:43 assbot no grease for your size
12:43 nubbins` heh
12:43 ThickAsThieves i saw that coming
12:43 ThickAsThieves nice assist i guess
12:43 nubbins` i'm imagining a mechanical iris closing
12:43 assbot its what couples do
12:43 ThickAsThieves teamwork!
12:44 ThickAsThieves selfdeprication facilitation
12:44 ThickAsThieves complete.
12:45 nubbins` |#####################| 100%
12:48 pankkake 8================D 100%
12:49 assbot your balls are small
12:49 mircea_popescu what's the emoticon for vagina dentata ?
12:50 ThickAsThieves Install Failed. Would you like to check Windows Update for a solution?
12:50 Apocalyptic heh
12:50 pankkake {¦} ?
12:50 ThickAsThieves ( {|} )
12:51 mircea_popescu that looks more like himen bifenestratus
12:51 nubbins` heh
12:51 kakobrekla pankkake draw a bear trap
12:51 kakobrekla tat warp traveling
12:52 ThickAsThieves ( { XXX } )
12:52 pankkake yes!
12:54 ThickAsThieves now he pm's me saying i'm not consumer focused ...
12:54 ThickAsThieves been in marketing for like most of my life...
12:56 ThickAsThieves I'd reason with the guy if I didn;t think it'd result it point by point epic messages where he never gives in
12:57 mircea_popescu isn't this the dork that was falling all over himself with mpoe-pr earlier ?
12:57 ThickAsThieves dunno
12:57 ThickAsThieves he was on ActM board
12:58 ThickAsThieves oh yeah
12:58 ThickAsThieves about SMG right?
12:58 mircea_popescu haha well that's fitting
12:58 ThickAsThieves yeah thats him
12:58 pankkake oh, hence in my ignore list :D
12:58 mircea_popescu i dun recall about what.
12:58 mircea_popescu but i recall greyhawk's comment that his avatar is well chosen
12:58 ThickAsThieves i had him ignored but now he's all up in Neo's business
12:58 pankkake anyone in that board should be scammer tagged anyway
12:58 mircea_popescu pankkake anyone not in my wot is scammer tagged by default.
12:59 pankkake yeah I figured that one
13:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 65 @ 0.0077 = 0.5005 BTC {2}
13:01 pankkake is 7C a scam?
13:01 pircea_momescu pankkake 7c is a scam !
13:01 pankkake see, that works
13:02 thestringpuller lololololol
13:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 37 @ 0.0077 = 0.2849 BTC {2}
13:02 mircea_popescu "I have searched Google and I haven't found an answer to what it is am looking for. So here is the deal am looking for a MMORPG (not FPS) that I and a friend can play without the need of putting any money on it. It should be completely free (no one time buy, no need to put money to buy higher gear, no need to upgrade the account to open some other stuff and bag limits.) Also prefer if the game isn't from perfect world
13:02 mircea_popescu international (since I have had bad history with there employees)."
13:02 mircea_popescu i like internet people.
13:02 mircea_popescu broiled.
13:02 pankkake there employees :(
13:03 mircea_popescu "i want good shit for free and a blowjob"
13:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 1111 @ 0.0077 = 8.5547 BTC {3}
13:03 ThickAsThieves he prefers here employees
13:03 ThickAsThieves dont these free things exist anyway?
13:03 Apocalyptic they do
13:03 ThickAsThieves like private WoW servers
13:03 ThickAsThieves or such
13:03 Apocalyptic it's just not good shit
13:04 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves those don't have here employees.
13:04 ThickAsThieves ah
13:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 50 @ 0.0077 = 0.385 BTC
13:04 nubbins` you still gotta buy wow tho
13:04 mircea_popescu it's like... total complete bonehead. employees don't need to be paid.
13:04 nubbins` this guy wants a great game that he can play for free
13:04 nubbins` NO ADS THO
13:04 mircea_popescu AND employees
13:04 mircea_popescu no riffraff like ThickAsThieves mind. people with better consumer focus.
13:04 ThickAsThieves i think Candy Crush is free
13:04 ThickAsThieves and on Facebook
13:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14995 BTC [+]
13:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 1005 @ 0.0077 = 7.7385 BTC {2}
13:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] [PAID] 2.28033270 BTC to 5`067`406 shares, 45 satoshi per share
13:05 nubbins` heh
13:05 nubbins` well, "free"
13:06 nubbins` i'll inspect your wallet, credit card receipts, and health records for free
13:06 ThickAsThieves "Any Capital raised by Havelock Investments on behalf of this Fund will be placed in escrow. The raised capital will only be distributed to the Company based on a per performance basis agreed by Havelock Investments and the Company. In the event that the Company is no longer able to continue operations, all of the remaining capital in escrow will be refunded to the Unit holders equally."
13:06 ThickAsThieves 7C ^
13:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.15 = 0.6 BTC [+]
13:06 nubbins` huh, interesting
13:06 mircea_popescu so basically every mistake that can be made will have to be made
13:06 mircea_popescu a well.
13:06 Namworld Mistakes?
13:06 mircea_popescu yes.
13:06 Namworld Fill me in
13:06 ThickAsThieves like releasing funds to them?
13:07 mircea_popescu well, it's simple : if you don't trust the company don't let it list.
13:07 mircea_popescu i;m too lazy to go into the endless debate as to why stupidity doesn't work. i'll just state the general point and shrug.
13:07 Korbman but that's not how the new Havelock makes money ;)
13:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 10005 @ 0.0077 = 77.0385 BTC {2}
13:09 mircea_popescu the new havelock is not going to be making any money.
13:10 jurov` Mhm...i can't follow,what has changed at havelock?
13:11 jurov` Moving to panama aside.
13:11 nubbins` floodgates.png
13:11 nubbins` something like 50 funds waiting in the wings?
13:11 pankkake 50 shitfunds
13:11 jurov` orly
13:11 Namworld Really? Where's the announcement on that? >.>
13:12 pankkake on their own IPO, they stated that
13:13 thestringpuller people are actually buying this 7C shit?
13:13 thestringpuller @_@
13:13 nubbins` prospectus, page 4
13:14 nubbins` adding 12 new funds each quarter
13:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 10000 @ 0.0077 = 77 BTC
13:14 Namworld Panama says: Give ID, list anything
13:15 pankkake the new info is also that CFIG is mostly Panama Fund guys
13:16 nubbins` ah, i remember cfig
13:16 nubbins` i drew a little diagram way back
13:16 nubbins` it had a bunch of question marks
13:17 pankkake oh, that was you :)
13:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 2012 @ 0.0077 = 15.4924 BTC {4}
13:17 nubbins` https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=269191.msg2940289#msg2940289
13:17 nubbins` :D
13:17 ozbot [HAVELOCK] Crypto Financial (CFIG) Official Thread
13:17 nubbins` xbt, how quaint
13:18 nubbins` that's essentially what virtex's debit cards do, but with automatic conversion of btc to fiat
13:19 nubbins` also, my trust link is green now?!
13:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 1978 @ 0.0077 = 15.2306 BTC {2}
13:20 Korbman I see 7C is pretty much only pulling in large orders
13:20 Namworld And almost round... like 10000 > 10000 > 2000 > 2000
13:22 Namworld Mostly what happened so far
13:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 20 @ 0.0077 = 0.154 BTC
13:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 25 @ 0.0077 = 0.1925 BTC
13:33 mircea_popescu anyuone here ever tried rift ?
13:33 thestringpuller how do you have time to play all these mmo's?
13:33 thestringpuller "research"
13:33 thestringpuller jkjk
13:33 TomServo mircea_popescu: the tabletop rpg?
13:33 mircea_popescu apparently there's a new pc version
13:33 mircea_popescu or maybe unrelated i dunno ?
13:34 TomServo Appears to be unrelated. I haven't played it.
13:35 ThickAsThieves I played Rift
13:36 ThickAsThieves in the early days
13:36 ThickAsThieves it was enjoyable enough
13:36 TomServo I was thinking of "Rifts" anyhow.
13:37 ThickAsThieves MP you should just buy Rift
13:37 ThickAsThieves and bitcoinify it
13:38 nubbins` would play a settlers of catan themed btc game
13:38 nubbins` or a btc themed settlers of catan, not sure
13:39 ThickAsThieves i'd also play a dota btc game
13:40 ThickAsThieves seems that format is pretty popular these days
13:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 90 @ 0.0077 = 0.693 BTC
13:41 nubbins` you could actually probably completely re-skin catan to have a btc theme
13:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 26 @ 0.0077 = 0.2002 BTC {2}
13:42 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves i might, but are they selling it ?
13:42 ThickAsThieves well i know they went to a fee model
13:42 ThickAsThieves free*
13:43 ThickAsThieves so they cant be doing well
13:43 nubbins` hey, some of the best things are free
13:43 ThickAsThieves and everyone has a price right?
13:44 nubbins` like google, and that guy who offered to help me install that btc security software on my computer
13:44 nubbins` unless you think there's some sort of catch to using both of those things?!?!?!
13:44 mircea_popescu ok, that may be, but... well...
13:45 ThickAsThieves have deadweasel get them in here
13:45 ThickAsThieves :)
13:45 mircea_popescu deadweasel baby, can you ferret out the owners of rift ?
13:46 mircea_popescu Gameplay requires: (1) INTERNET CONNECTION (SOLD SEPARATELY), AND (2) ACCEPTANCE OF LICENSE AND USAGE TERMS.
13:46 mircea_popescu you suppose anyone accused them of scamming because they don't also provide you with internet ?
13:46 mircea_popescu "but i vbought the game fair and square!!11 why can't i play it on my toaster!11"
13:46 nubbins` pretty much the definition of scam
13:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 15 @ 0.0077 = 0.1155 BTC
13:47 ThickAsThieves https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=N9LlbuAeqlc#t=22
13:47 ozbot 2010 WWE Hall of Fame: Million Dollar Man - YouTube
13:47 nubbins` hahahaha
13:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 8750 @ 0.0077 = 67.375 BTC {3}
13:47 nubbins` theodore dibiase!
13:48 ThickAsThieves was harder to find him saying his catchphrase than i thought itd be
13:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 6000 @ 0.0077 = 46.2 BTC {2}
13:49 deadweasel mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves , I'm at work, give me a general starting link and I'll see.
13:49 deadweasel dafuq is rift anyway? a game?
13:50 nubbins` ThickAsThieves: you know ultimate warrior does knife painting now?
13:51 ThickAsThieves deadweasel, Rift is a major game, you'd need to start with the studio probly
13:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 63 @ 0.00299699 = 0.1888 BTC [+]
13:52 ThickAsThieves really there's like 0 chance theyll come in here
13:52 nubbins` http://www.ultimatewarrior.com/blog/
13:52 ThickAsThieves unless they already are!
13:52 ozbot Warrior's Machete
13:52 Namworld There's only one quality IPO coming up. Calm your horses and the random ideas IPOs.
13:52 ThickAsThieves weapons of wisdom
13:52 ThickAsThieves lol
13:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1276 @ 0.00011042 = 0.1409 BTC [+] {3}
13:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00078219 = 16.0349 BTC [-]
13:53 Namworld Ideas are 2 bucks a dozen, not 5 million each
13:53 mircea_popescu deadweasel http://www.riftgame.com/en/play-for-free/
13:53 mircea_popescu no rush whatever, if you manage it at all you're a miracle worker anyway
13:53 ThickAsThieves warrior's stuff isnt horrible
13:53 nubbins` there's better
13:54 nubbins` http://www.warriorgallery.com/Pages/Works.html
13:54 ozbot Works.
13:54 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves well if it's f2p it ain't that major namean ?
13:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.344767 = 0.6895 BTC [+]
13:56 nubbins` http://www.warriorgallery.com/Pages/WARRIOR_Van%20Gogh%20Skull_24x36.html
13:57 ozbot Sitting Bull Blue
13:57 nubbins` i like to imagine him painting these with a huge rambo knife, rather than a palette knife
13:57 ThickAsThieves that one isnt bad either
13:57 ThickAsThieves but paying that much for a print is silly
13:58 nubbins` that's an original, not a print
13:58 ThickAsThieves oh it said also available in other size
13:58 ThickAsThieves so i assumed
13:58 nubbins` ah, yeah, i think the other size is a print
13:58 ThickAsThieves i know many artists try to sell prints for ridic prices
13:58 nubbins` oh. nope.
13:58 nubbins` tat, i have much to say on the subject of prints
13:59 ThickAsThieves do you do giclee?
13:59 nubbins` no, and in fact, i don't consider giclees "prints" in the traditional sense of the word
14:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33800001 BTC [-]
14:00 nubbins` they're closer to color photocopies than anything
14:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33800001 BTC [-]
14:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 418 @ 0.000479 = 0.2002 BTC [-]
14:01 nubbins` producing a print takes skill and effort, and each one is usually a unique piece
14:01 nubbins` producing a giclee involves making sure your ink cartridges are topped up, and clicking a mouse
14:01 ThickAsThieves i always assumed giclees did color matching
14:02 nubbins` oh, sure, sometimes. but that's still just dicking around on the computer
14:02 ThickAsThieves hehe
14:02 nubbins` a $250 epson can produce beautiful CMYK giclee prints
14:02 nubbins` but they're worth the cost of the paper and inks, plus maybe $20
14:03 nubbins` to compare a giclee to a linocut or a serigraph is truly taking the piss
14:03 nubbins` nothing worse than seeing people selling small "prints" for $50 each
14:04 nubbins` in an edition of 250
14:04 ThickAsThieves to me, i'd either want the original, or a good-enough print to look pretty on the wall
14:04 nubbins` and then finding out they're fuckin giclees
14:04 ThickAsThieves in-between seems a waste
14:04 nubbins` nod
14:05 nubbins` take a linocut, for example
14:05 nubbins` it doesn't exist as a piece of art until it's printed
14:05 nubbins` and each print is unique, as the linoleum squishes around and wears down
14:05 KRS|gotyawallet http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/one-third-of-kenyans-now-have-a-bitcoin-wallet
14:05 ozbot One Third of Kenyans Now Have a Bitcoin Wallet | Motherboard
14:05 nubbins` a giclee is just a copy of an original
14:05 KRS|gotyawallet Wonder how long til the Serbians get on board with their own bitcoin wallets.
14:05 nubbins` compared to linocut, monotype, serigraph, etc, where the prints ARE originals
14:06 nubbins` people have a lot of trouble with that point
14:06 ThickAsThieves well the concept is that people want to know the artist stood there and made the thing
14:06 ThickAsThieves not a amachine
14:06 nubbins` nod
14:06 nubbins` or at the very least, had a hand in its production
14:07 ThickAsThieves meh
14:07 nubbins` often the artist and the printer work hand-in-hand
14:07 kakobrekla pressing all teh buttons
14:07 kakobrekla moving all the mouses
14:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33332 BTC [-]
14:07 ThickAsThieves working with artists = printer's nightmare
14:07 nubbins` ^ agreed
14:07 nubbins` welcome to my life, heh
14:07 nubbins` altho our clients are generally pretty easygoing
14:07 ThickAsThieves I have no money, but I want 5 prints of 50 of my pieces!
14:07 ThickAsThieves how much?
14:08 ThickAsThieves or same request but for greeting cards
14:08 nubbins` heh
14:08 ThickAsThieves "buy your own printer" i'd tell them
14:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 13 @ 0.0077 = 0.1001 BTC
14:09 nubbins` we explicitly do not own a color printer for this very reason
14:09 nubbins` well. we have a printer that can print color (6 tanks!)
14:09 nubbins` but it's all loaded with super-opaque pigment inks
14:09 nubbins` for printing films
14:10 nubbins` all black
14:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 13 @ 0.0077 = 0.1001 BTC
14:11 nubbins` the best jobs are where we're given free reign over the art
14:11 ThickAsThieves my mom used to work painting separations of textile patterns onto acetate plastic sheets by hand
14:11 nubbins` "we want some posters made, here's a list of things we like: interrobangs, lasers, robots, etc"
14:11 nubbins` ah, that's thankless work :)
14:11 ThickAsThieves carpal tunnel in both hands, AND the foot version
14:11 nubbins` nod, my wrists aren't great
14:12 nubbins` years of poor computer posture combined with manual printing
14:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.155 BTC [-]
14:12 ThickAsThieves she'd have like 20 sheets layered over eachother in one brown blob when done
14:12 nubbins` i've sepped by hand before
14:12 ThickAsThieves then they got computers
14:12 nubbins` generally just use gimp with a wacom tablet these days
14:14 nubbins` our usual process is pencil -> ink -> gimp -> inkscape -> illustrator -> acetate -> silkscreens -> paper
14:14 thestringpuller uh
14:14 thestringpuller uh
14:14 thestringpuller gimp
14:14 thestringpuller huh huh
14:14 thestringpuller huhuh he said gimp
14:14 nubbins` heh
14:15 nubbins` and really, we only use illustrator for printing films
14:15 nubbins` would be nice if we didn't need it
14:15 nubbins` but inkscape doesn't support CMYK print output (srsly)
14:17 ThickerThanThiev i'm a coreldraw fan
14:17 ThickerThanThiev great for that kinda work
14:17 nubbins` never used it
14:17 ThickerThanThiev it's canadian!
14:17 nubbins` i mean, inkscape itself is great for vector work
14:17 nubbins` it just barfs at the output step
14:18 nubbins` so we shelled out $800 for illustrator
14:18 ThickAsThieves it takes adusting for a long-time Illustrator user
14:18 nubbins` and another $500 for 3rd party epson drivers
14:19 ThickAsThieves but the keystrokes and tools and like everything for vector editing in corel is just better imo
14:19 nubbins` ah
14:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 30 @ 0.0077 = 0.231 BTC
14:19 nubbins` yeah, illo is powerful, but most of it is still beyond me
14:19 nubbins` the image trace options in cs6 are fuckin great tho
14:19 nubbins` http://www.softwareforscreenprinters.com/accurip
14:19 ozbot Accurip
14:20 ThickAsThieves what was it we used to rip, oh yeah Onyx
14:20 ThickAsThieves so expensive
14:20 nubbins` nod
14:20 nubbins` rips are fucking LOOT
14:20 asciilifeform unrelated but interesting: http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=c5cc9a1c749a6f225283bdfa124431d0&rgn=div9&view=text&node=15:2.1.3.4.45.0.1.3.87&idno=15
14:20 nubbins` tried to get away without using one for so long
14:20 asciilifeform a list of junk u.s. gov. considers politically interesting.
14:20 nubbins` such a waste of effort
14:21 nubbins` i almost wept when i saw the first set of separations accurip spit out
14:21 nubbins` felt like i'd discovered bitcoin
14:21 ThickAsThieves hehe
14:21 deadweasel who exactly from rift do you want to talk to?
14:21 asciilifeform betcha every luggage trunk at every u.s. airport contains something on this list.
14:21 deadweasel a pr douche?
14:21 deadweasel accountant?
14:21 ThickAsThieves no
14:21 ThickAsThieves an owner
14:21 nubbins` a c-level exec
14:21 deadweasel mutherfucker
14:22 deadweasel ha, wish me luck
14:22 ThickAsThieves he want to buy the game afterall
14:22 nubbins` gl ;p
14:22 deadweasel and just what do they want to talk with you about? :)
14:22 deadweasel i can't make it up if I havne't followed the story.
14:22 nubbins` anyway, people have no idea what a pain pre-press work is
14:23 nubbins` "yeah my artwork is ready to go"
14:23 deadweasel we do now, nubs
14:23 nubbins` not even converted to spot colors
14:23 nubbins` etc
14:23 nubbins` the thing about "graphic designers" that fucking pisses me off
14:23 nubbins` is that none of them understand print
14:23 ThickAsThieves lol
14:23 nubbins` "ahh, the guy who prints it can figure that out"
14:23 ThickAsThieves i never hired college-trained designers
14:24 nubbins` and then the poor client pays me $xx/h to recreate the goddamn image from scratch
14:24 ThickAsThieves fukn useless
14:24 nubbins` nod
14:24 nubbins` no concept of anything
14:24 nubbins` 72dpi backgrounds
14:24 nubbins` "it looks good on my screen"
14:24 nubbins` die in a fire
14:24 ThickAsThieves file prep is truly an advanced skill
14:25 nubbins` it's a completely separate skillset
14:25 kakobrekla just rename it to niggers.txt
14:25 deadweasel lol
14:25 nubbins` "how would you like niggers.txt screened?"
14:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 5000 @ 0.0077 = 38.5 BTC
14:25 nubbins` 61 lpi, 22.5 deg angle, please
14:25 nubbins` i'm still learning
14:25 nubbins` only discovered "overprint fill/stroke" recently
14:26 deadweasel "i want all niggers.txt screened out of my t=shirt, please."
14:26 nubbins` and the implications thereof
14:26 ThickAsThieves i once printed seps for an album cover on the newspaper's hardware where i wored
14:26 ThickAsThieves whored
14:26 ThickAsThieves hehe
14:26 ThickAsThieves worked*
14:27 kakobrekla i belive whored is the right term
14:27 nubbins` what did they call those projectors they used to use for seps?
14:27 ThickAsThieves i cant remember
14:27 ThickAsThieves big fuckers
14:27 nubbins` not orthographic
14:28 nubbins` i can't remember either. rad tho.
14:30 nubbins` would love to get into letterpress
14:30 nubbins` but that's an expensive setup
14:30 nubbins` and i'd want to be able to make my own plates
14:30 nubbins` which makes it a REALLY expensive setup
14:30 ThickAsThieves people will pay pretty well for it, but way too custom for my patience again
14:31 nubbins` yeah, there's basically zero market outside of wedding invitations too
14:31 ThickAsThieves brides as clients, lol
14:32 ThickAsThieves one time, that's all it took me
14:32 ThickAsThieves insanity
14:32 nubbins` bridezilla
14:32 nubbins` one of our printers works days at a wedding planning place
14:32 nubbins` she does not enjoy it
14:33 ThickAsThieves in the end i was hand-scoring and trimming corners one by one
14:33 nubbins` "yeah, auhhmmm, i want flowers like pandora vanderpump had at her wedding... but i don't want them to, like, cost a lot"
14:33 ThickAsThieves hand drawn maps to the location
14:34 ThickAsThieves custom lettering
14:34 ThickAsThieves bleh
14:34 nubbins` nod
14:34 nubbins` we've silkscreened some wedding invites
14:34 nubbins` doing some now actually
14:34 nubbins` 6 spot colors ;(
14:34 ThickAsThieves (sorry channel, I'm just about bored with the print talk) :)
14:35 nubbins` http://pinkeyeprints.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/wedding-invite-2a.png
14:35 nubbins` heh
14:35 nubbins` i'm about done too
14:35 kakobrekla you just got him wet
14:36 ThickAsThieves ;;ticker
14:36 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1123.0, Best ask: 1124.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 1121.0, 24 hour volume: 56407.85643252, 24 hour low: 870.001, 24 hour high: 1240.0, 24 hour vwap: 1069.77714
14:36 ThickAsThieves try harder China!
14:36 nubbins` 870-1240
14:36 nubbins` pretty calm day
14:36 kleeck_ :P
14:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 61 @ 0.00318637 = 0.1944 BTC [-] {7}
14:37 mike_c ;;premium btcn mtgox
14:37 gribble Premium of BTCChina over MtGox is currently -9.57021326982 %.
14:37 mike_c china is asleep at the wheel.
14:38 mike_c everybody ran to china to arbitrage and drove the price down :)
14:38 nubbins` http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/chicken-in-turkey-mary-brown-s-aims-for-istanbul-1.2452205
14:38 ozbot Chicken in Turkey: Mary Brown's aims for Istanbul - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News
14:39 ThickAsThieves not Constantinople
14:39 nubbins` some years ago, mary brown's released this new sandwich called the Big Mary
14:39 nubbins` huge ad campaign
14:40 nubbins` some guy thought a play on "hail caesar" would be a good idea
14:40 nubbins` massive posters in bus shelters everywhere depicting a chicken sandwich
14:40 nubbins` "HAIL MARY" in foot-high letters
14:40 nubbins` catholic church became very upset
14:40 nubbins` shocked that the mother of god would be compared to a chicken sandwich!
14:40 nubbins` and so the posters came back down
14:41 ThickAsThieves shoulda used prints
14:41 nubbins` i lel'd
14:41 ThickAsThieves catholic church is very snooty about such things
14:41 nubbins` we've actually been experimenting with silkscreening posters for taping to poles
14:42 mircea_popescu so how's the printing office going ?
14:42 nubbins` great, A+++, would do business with again
14:42 nubbins` http://imgur.com/KMj2YW7
14:42 ozbot imgur: the simple image sharer
14:43 nubbins` ^ surprisingly resilient to the elements
14:43 mircea_popescu lol
14:43 nubbins` we bought a 36"x1000' roll of red kraft paper, great idea
14:45 nubbins` anyway, shit to do. peace
14:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00299699 = 0.1498 BTC [+]
14:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.165 BTC [+]
14:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 50 @ 0.0077 = 0.385 BTC
14:56 benkay #python-pdx
15:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19534 @ 0.00078614 = 15.3565 BTC [+]
15:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 333 @ 0.00299799 = 0.9983 BTC [+]
15:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 129 @ 0.0077 = 0.9933 BTC
15:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 5000 @ 0.0077 = 38.5 BTC
15:15 TomServo What's your standard response to "It's a ponzi!"?
15:16 mike_c you mean pyramid scheme?
15:16 TomServo heh, nope
15:16 TomServo Although that'd be more accurate. You mean, that's your response?
15:16 mike_c tough to be a ponzi without somebody running the whole thing.
15:17 ThickAsThieves i thought the standard respinse IS it's a ponzi
15:17 pircea_momescu ThickAsThieves it's is a ponzi !
15:17 mike_c somebody is typically holding all the money in a ponzi. who would that be?
15:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8955 @ 0.00078889 = 7.0645 BTC [+]
15:18 TomServo It's Mircea innit? :D
15:19 mike_c he's got all the bitcoins :) somebody would have to have all the fiat for it to be a ponzi.
15:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.16899999 BTC [+]
15:20 TomServo Ha, true.
15:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33809999 BTC [+]
15:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 1000 @ 0.0077 = 7.7 BTC
15:31 mircea_popescu it's a prizzi!
15:36 benkay asciilifeform, mircea_popescu: what's stupid about the NTRU encryption scheme?
15:36 benkay (assuming there's something dumb and that you two'd know)
15:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.16899999 BTC [+]
15:45 davout TomServo: it's not a pyramid scheme, it's a triangular opportunity
15:46 TomServo haha, I like it!
15:46 davout i didn't come up with it, i think it comes from the simpsons
15:46 davout cryptomnesia ftw
15:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 475 @ 0.0077 = 3.6575 BTC
15:48 kleeck_ What is the best place to short BTC?
15:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00079052 = 2.2925 BTC [+]
15:49 davout kleeck_: you could buy some puts on mpex
15:51 benkay kleeck_: MPEx.
15:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33330001 BTC [-]
15:57 benkay or sell some calls if you're sufficiently capitalized.
15:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3333 BTC [-]
15:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 5844 @ 0.00048987 = 2.8628 BTC [+] {4}
15:59 mike_c or on coinbr.com (mpex broker)
15:59 davout benkay: i've been working on my financial education a lot recently still lots to learn, but isn't it much more dangerous to write options than it is to buy them ?
15:59 davout the way i understand it you can lose a lot but your profit is capped by the price at which you sell the option
16:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1417 @ 0.00048994 = 0.6942 BTC [+] {3}
16:00 mike_c yes, but you profit sooner
16:00 mike_c at a higher price that is
16:00 davout unlike futures where your profit varies linearly with the spot price of the underlying at maturity/expiration
16:00 davout amirite?
16:01 mike_c http://i.investopedia.com/inv/articles/site/img12.png
16:01 davout mike_c: well, i guess it's up to the party who writes the option to come up with the right price
16:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2800 @ 0.00048999 = 1.372 BTC [+] {2}
16:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 97 @ 0.0031821 = 0.3087 BTC [-]
16:03 davout got myself "Options, futures, and other derivatives" doing the problems, I feel like I'm back in college xD
16:03 davout mike_c: see, that's the kind of graphs I want to really understand by coming up with them the hard way :-)
16:03 benkay pricing options is an open problem, yes.
16:04 davout the MPOE bot knows something about it hehe
16:04 mike_c i value learning by experience, but the p/l graphs are definitely something you should understand before trading options.
16:05 davout i'm not touching options, and i certainly won't write them
16:06 benkay if you really want to understand options, write a pricing algo.
16:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.155 BTC [-]
16:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 221 @ 0.0077 = 1.7017 BTC
16:09 asciilifeform benkay: lattice crypto is interesting but (relatively) poorly studied; plenty of opportunity for fukkupy
16:09 asciilifeform and the pubkeys tend to end up hefty (64kB+.)
16:14 benkay i'd like to see a shor-resistant cryptocurrency.
16:15 benkay kinda the only altcoin that makes practical sense.
16:16 asciilifeform benkay: there are several hypothetical altcoins that would make practical sense.
16:16 benkay just so that when cold wallets start emptying themselves those who keep their eyes on these things have another class of cryptocoin to move into.
16:16 asciilifeform say, my crackpot 'turingcoin' (arbitrary calculation for workfunction.)
16:17 davout benkay: i guess i'll need to understand how to model volatility before writing one
16:18 mircea_popescu davout the main difference between options and futures is that a correctly implemented future allows physical delivery,
16:18 mircea_popescu which keeps the market honest.
16:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.051 = 0.153 BTC [-]
16:18 davout can you elaborate on the keeping the market honest part ?
16:18 mircea_popescu absent that, futures are awkwardly skinned options.
16:19 davout and on the awkwardly skinned options part ? :-)
16:19 mircea_popescu davout yeah. if you buy the right to receive livestock in the future, as long as you can't actually take the livestock
16:19 mircea_popescu you're stuck realising whatever price whoever sold you the contract decides
16:19 mircea_popescu ifthey say livestock is 10 dollars that's that.
16:19 mircea_popescu if however you CAN take the livestock, then they are well incentivised to not declare livestock worth 10 dollars, cause you'll just take it.
16:19 davout when you close your position you mean?
16:19 davout ya i see
16:19 asciilifeform self-emptying coldwallets, should they appear, would almost certainly be explained by compromised electronics (airgap that isn't) rather than QM sorcery.
16:20 mircea_popescu at all points.
16:20 davout finance is terrifyingly interesting
16:20 mircea_popescu an option resolves this problem by trading on the spot. futures trade on their own "implied" spot, and so you can easily be stuck
16:20 davout learning about it is quite enjoyable
16:21 davout you lost me there
16:21 mircea_popescu (for instance it's convincingly arguing atm that the large banks are keeping rthe gold price very low throuigh this exact trickery)
16:21 benkay whereas if you take posession of the livestock, you can sell them for the market price.
16:22 mircea_popescu davout the price at which options settle is not related to the price at which options trade, in the sense these are independent values.
16:22 mircea_popescu the price at which futures settle is QUITE the price at which they trade.
16:22 davout but the spot is still the spot right? i mean, it reflects the actual price of things? or am i missing something obvious here?
16:22 benkay asciilifeform: the first set of course
16:23 mircea_popescu thje spot is the spot, but the actual price shall never be known.
16:23 davout haha
16:23 benkay asciilifeform: i'm entertaining ideas about practical altcoin design
16:24 asciilifeform benkay: programmable workfunction (part of the protocol, in my concept) would give you some teeth against asic, etc.
16:24 mircea_popescu why do you want " teeth against asic" ?
16:24 ThickAsThieves hey guys, where can I short the bitcoin?
16:24 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: if you're sitting on a warehouse full of fpga.
16:25 mircea_popescu seems a silly way to design things
16:25 davout mircea_popescu: i'm at chapter 2 of my book, hopefully i'll grok moar and come up with better questions as i progress
16:25 asciilifeform or simply if you'd prefer a cryptocoin that doesn't degenerate into semiconductor plants as central banks
16:25 benkay asciilifeform: examples: targeting fpga's; dynamic workfns (as you mentioned); sorcery resistance
16:25 mircea_popescu davout enjoi.
16:25 TomServo davout: which book?
16:25 ThickAsThieves http://metro.co.uk/2013/12/04/romanian-farmville-gang-con-400000-from-government-with-fake-farms-4215956/
16:26 davout TomServo: http://www.amazon.fr/Options-Futures-Other-Derivatives-John/dp/0132777428
16:26 TomServo Thanks
16:26 davout feels like a good way to invest 100eur
16:27 TomServo ThickAsThieves: This is the UK onion right? *sigh*
16:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00299 = 0.299 BTC [-]
16:28 dub asciilifeform: swapping them for guys with warehouses of pgas as central banks?
16:29 asciilifeform dub: naturally. i was reasoning from the point of view of the people who have them. they have an incentive.
16:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00317293 = 0.3173 BTC [-] {4}
16:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 20 @ 0.0077 = 0.154 BTC
16:38 ThickAsThieves http://www.coindesk.com/asic-miners-litecoin-soon/
16:39 pankkake http://pastebin.com/RRSPfDkp I get a PM a day about this stupid altcoin now :/
16:39 ozbot Hello I came across your giveaway thread at---https://bitcointalk - Pastebin.com
16:42 pankkake haha and they don't accept litecoin as payment
16:42 benkay hey mircea_popescu what does anul 5 d.Tr. mean?
16:43 mike_c asciilifeform: i don't see how arbitrary work function helps. have you written something up on this? i'm missing the part where it keeps asics out of the game.
16:43 pankkake ;;ud anul
16:43 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=anul | this is a mis-spelling of anal which could then lead to abuse by two bi-sexuals.
16:43 ozbot Urban Dictionary: anul
16:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 22 @ 0.0249409 = 0.5487 BTC [+] {3}
16:43 KRS|gotyawallet wut lel
16:43 mike_c like you said, governments can crank out a new asic in a matter of weeks..
16:43 TomServo benkay: Year 5, I think?
16:44 KRS|gotyawallet mike_c: not the U.S.. I mean, have you known the U.S. to get anything done in a matter of weeks?
16:44 mike_c asciilifeform said the nsa has a plant that does it
16:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 126 @ 0.02499999 = 3.15 BTC [+] {2}
16:44 asciilifeform well, that could in principle do it.
16:45 pankkake they can force Intel to do it
16:45 asciilifeform the point wouldn't be to wiggle out from under each new batch of asics
16:45 asciilifeform but to run a network with heterogeneous workfunctions.
16:48 mike_c i don't see how that prevents the semiconductor plants from being boss. they can still crank out the most work, regardless of what that work is.
16:48 mike_c unless its planting tomatoes or something.
16:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33809999 BTC [+]
16:56 ThickAsThieves so this forbes guy that wanted to short bitcoin so badly, ythink he knew about this china announcement?
16:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 166 @ 0.002995 = 0.4972 BTC [+]
16:58 KRS|gotyawallet shady shit
17:05 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=358242.0
17:05 mircea_popescu it never ends
17:05 ozbot Next generation 14nm mining grid
17:08 pankkake "
17:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33805978 BTC [-]
17:08 pankkake We plan to harness what will soon be the largest and most efficient pool of hashing power in the world"
17:08 mircea_popescu herpderpetc
17:08 mircea_popescu i plan to fart a new ring for saturn
17:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33806979 = 0.6761 BTC [+]
17:10 ThickAsThieves I can finally have my ASIC phone?
17:10 ThickAsThieves and the floor tiles, are they in the works?
17:11 pankkake oh right it's the smartphone idea, lol. that's why I closed it the first time
17:11 mircea_popescu i like the part about THE SCAMMERS chjecking other people's records./
17:11 pankkake floor tiles would actually be smart (if you have nothing better than electricity)
17:11 mircea_popescu bloody nigerian cheek.
17:11 ThickAsThieves wouldnt want no criminals holding shares now
17:12 mircea_popescu right-o
17:14 pankkake perhaps they are nigerians with an ethical policy of only scamming americans
17:18 nubbins` aaaaugh
17:18 nubbins` 60 minutes on a stationary bike
17:18 nubbins` definitely less fun than 60 minutes on a moving bike
17:18 Vexual worst botnet ever
17:21 Vexual chinese pesants can't put bitcoins in the bank. am i reading correctly?
17:21 nubbins` http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-5-BTC-Casascius-Physical-BITCOIN-Redeemed-BONUS-5mBTC-Coin-LOADED-w-BTC-/321262450654?ssPageName=ADME:L:EOISSA:US:1123
17:21 ozbot 2012 5 BTC Casascius Physical Bitcoin Redeemed Bonus 5MBTC Coin Loaded w BTC | eBay
17:22 nubbins` ^ arij from -otc got $234.50 for a token :0
17:22 pankkake ALUMINUM!!!!
17:23 nubbins` ah, i thought it was nickel?
17:23 nubbins` not sure
17:23 ThickAsThieves "The residue resulting from peeling off the hologram is included."
17:23 ThickAsThieves lol
17:23 nubbins` yeah
17:23 nubbins` lel
17:23 nubbins` i went a step further and removed all messy residue from mine
17:24 nubbins` maybe that's why it's only at $145
17:24 ThickAsThieves residue not included
17:24 nubbins` residue sold separately
17:24 nubbins` Up for auction is one (1) ball of residue from a Casascius physical bitcoin
17:25 nubbins` wow your friends! scare your mom!
17:25 ThickAsThieves here's the "try" email of the day
17:25 ThickAsThieves "Hello: I am interested in opening a account.
17:25 ThickAsThieves Thank you."
17:25 nubbins` hah
17:25 nubbins` one-line reply
17:25 nubbins` "Thank you for your interest."
17:26 ThickAsThieves Thank you foR Your interest.
17:26 nubbins` bolded for emphasis
17:26 nubbins` if only the letters "h-a-r-d-e-r" were in the word "interest"
17:27 ThickAsThieves maybe usg is trying to set me up or some shit
17:27 nubbins` time to relocate
17:28 Vexual st kitss has good residue
17:28 ThickAsThieves i went for "We do not offer accounts."
17:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11550 @ 0.00079145 = 9.1412 BTC [+] {2}
17:37 KRS|gotyawallet another exchange coming it looks like..well funded launch too
17:37 KRS|gotyawallet kind of
17:38 KRS|gotyawallet http://www.pehub.com/2013/11/itbit-closes-3-25-mln-funding-round-unveils-bitcoin-trading-platform/
17:38 ozbot » itBit closes $3.25 mln funding round and unveils Bitcoin trading platform
17:38 KRS|gotyawallet ecom type web sites can easily chew through that kind of funding..hope its just the initial round of investment
17:39 ThickAsThieves Neo is more well-funded even
17:50 benkay "retail investors must reside outside the us"
17:50 benkay the decline doth proceed apace.
17:51 mike_c ;;bc,stats
17:51 gribble Current Blocks: 273270 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 905 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 4 hours, 49 minutes, and 39 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 871682636.513 | Estimated Percent Change: 23.222
17:54 Vexual I thought that was creative chinese tax accountants i could hear
17:54 benkay ;;ticker
17:54 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1106.00001, Best ask: 1106.45, Bid-ask spread: 0.44999, Last trade: 1106.0, 24 hour volume: 58208.70733260, 24 hour low: 870.001, 24 hour high: 1240.0, 24 hour vwap: 1067.55523
17:55 pankkake ;;ticker --market btcavg
17:55 gribble BitcoinAverage BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1026.26, Best ask: 1031.45, Bid-ask spread: 5.19000, Last trade: 1034.03, 24 hour volume: 187327.5, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: 1062.1
17:55 benkay ;;calc 1106*30
17:55 gribble 33180
17:55 pankkake ;;premium mtgox bitstamp
17:55 gribble Premium of MtGox over Bitstamp is currently 8.56154367093 %.
17:56 mircea_popescu itbit eh
17:56 benkay ;;calc 1026.26*30
17:56 gribble 30787.8
17:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.00079236 = 0.3169 BTC [+]
17:57 mircea_popescu nbwajhahaha cellphone mining
17:57 mircea_popescu where do these retards get assembled i wish to know
17:58 nubbins` i guess icbit was taken
17:58 pankkake I love when they get angry at you (like 7C it seems). Who's begging for who's money?
18:00 mike_c people are angry at you on the forums? hard to believe.
18:00 nubbins` lel
18:03 ThickAsThieves http://bitcoinviews.com/university-of-nicosia-receives-first-tuition-payment-using-bitcoin/
18:03 ozbot University of Nicosia Receives First Tuition Payment Using Bitcoin
18:03 ThickAsThieves Who will be the first Master of Digital Currency?
18:04 ThickAsThieves http://www.unic.ac.cy
18:04 ozbot University of Nicosia
18:04 ThickAsThieves they arent kidding
18:04 pankkake a bitcoin class, why not? there's already on for starcraft http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2009/01/uc-berkeley-int/
18:04 ThickAsThieves right on the home page
18:04 pankkake wow
18:05 ThickAsThieves I met that guy, in the Video section
18:05 ThickAsThieves was pretty interesting guy
18:05 ThickAsThieves vid is Greek tho
18:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 16 @ 0.0077 = 0.1232 BTC {2}
18:07 ThickAsThieves http://www.unic.ac.cy/about-us/university-of-nicosia-digital-currency-initiative/msc-digital-currency
18:07 ozbot MSc Digital Currency | University of Nicosia
18:18 nubbins` lel
18:18 nubbins` pascale re: S.NSA t-shirts
18:18 nubbins` "remember the models with their pussies out?"
18:18 nubbins` "yep"
18:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.0029 = 0.116 BTC [-] {2}
18:22 Vexual http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2013/12/05/betting-against-bitcoin-bubble/ you got quoted TAT
18:22 ozbot How to bet against the bitcoin megabubble - The Term Sheet: Fortune's deals blogTerm Sheet
18:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 169 @ 0.00285973 = 0.4833 BTC [-] {6}
18:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00285 = 0.285 BTC [-] {2}
18:25 benkay "that lead me to question just how real the prices MPEx was quoting were"
18:26 nubbins` hahaha
18:26 nubbins` hey, it's stephen gandel!
18:26 benkay as real as the people buying them, one assumes
18:26 benkay 2 contracts minimum to profit
18:26 benkay well i say
18:27 benkay sounds like you need some capitalization
18:27 benkay american "news" organizations
18:27 ThickAsThieves wow
18:27 ThickAsThieves mpex on fortune
18:27 ThickAsThieves wooy
18:27 ThickAsThieves woot*
18:27 benkay "you can totally short bitcoins profitably - it just takes a lot of money to make it reasonably profitable. ergo, bitcoins r tardfodder."
18:28 benkay *rage rage rage rage*
18:28 Vexual I was told this happens a lot.
18:29 ThickAsThieves "You can't currently do that with bitcoins. All of the bitcoin options and futures contracts are settled in bitcoins. This is a very bad deal."
18:29 ThickAsThieves I guess he didnt get it
18:30 Apocalyptic the first comment was from pankkake
18:30 pankkake I got quoted on options?
18:30 ThickAsThieves "On top of all that, this isn't like trading on the New York Stock Exchange. Midday Wednesday, MPEx appeared to shut down, and the prices of the contracts disappeared. I was told this happens a lot. As of early Thursday, the exchange still wasn't listing prices. "
18:30 ThickAsThieves awww
18:30 pankkake I don't even know what options are!
18:31 ThickAsThieves i dont see where any of us are quoted ... ?
18:31 Apocalyptic don't see it either
18:32 Apocalyptic pankkake, no look at the first comment author's avatar
18:32 Apocalyptic it's you amirite
18:32 Vexual http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-12-2013#406136 not an actual quote
18:32 ozbot #bitcoin-assets log
18:33 pankkake Apocalyptic: haha, it's my avatar but not me
18:33 davout pankkake: i thought it was you as well :-)
18:33 ThickAsThieves oh i get ya
18:33 pankkake I certainly don't mind the media talking about bitcoin, even if bad
18:34 ThickAsThieves pankkakecat trolls even better than the real one
18:35 ThickAsThieves forbes guy coulda at least gave the chan a shoutout sheesh
18:36 Apocalyptic indeed
18:37 pankkake at least he didn't mention that when he joined the discussion was about underage actresses
18:37 davout lol
18:37 ThickAsThieves wait'll he finds out about bitcoin securities
18:38 pankkake they clearly have the power to pump any security or altcoin they want
18:38 davout could've been worse, he could have walked in on mp explaining how he manages his slaves herd
18:39 Vexual revealing sources instantly transmogriphys a senior editing journalist into a lowly blogger
18:39 benkay one wonders if he noticed.
18:40 davout would be funny if someone posted a link to the log in the comments
18:40 ThickAsThieves now yer talkin
18:40 ThickAsThieves Full transcript of the author's research here!
18:42 benkay someone do that please.
18:43 Vexual i wonder if they'll print it
18:43 Vexual fortune still on nesstands?
18:43 pankkake newstands still on?
18:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25700 @ 0.00079236 = 20.3637 BTC [+]
18:44 benkay yessss exactly.
18:45 Vexual nelson mandela issue, buy mpoe
18:45 mircea_popescu lol wtf confusion in that guy's head
18:46 mircea_popescu why is it the exchange's problem if the bot puts or doesn't put orders in
18:46 pankkake "The best I could come up with is shorting the GPU manufacturers that bitcoin miners commonly use" in the comments
18:47 mircea_popescu i suppose he missed the part where last month ppl made like 3k btc or w./e
18:47 pankkake and the obligatory tulip bulp mention
18:47 mircea_popescu i guess it's hard being clueless and yet havintg to write about shit.
18:53 ThickAsThieves hey no one pointed out that bitcoin's worth more than Google
18:53 ThickAsThieves (shares)
18:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02888997 = 0.2889 BTC [+] {2}
18:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 15 @ 0.0077 = 0.1155 BTC
18:58 mircea_popescu because google isn't backed by anything
18:58 Apocalyptic mircea_popescu, well in your case the exchange is the market maker also
18:59 Apocalyptic but he didn't mention that and seem to have no clue so yeah
18:59 Vexual next time someone should probably wake mircea
19:00 benkay dem market caps
19:00 mircea_popescu Apocalyptic not really, i mean they're conglomerated but separate.
19:00 benkay well, it's no surprise really - people don't understand even market capitalization.
19:02 benkay Apocalyptic: the market maker not quoting prices is not anywhere near similar to the exchange going down.
19:02 Apocalyptic benkay, I know that
19:03 Apocalyptic I just pointed out that in this specific case MPEX and MPOE are somehow closely related, so it may be relevant to point it out if done correctly
19:04 mircea_popescu moreover, the bot's under no obligation to quote
19:04 mircea_popescu well yeah, that.
19:04 benkay hey we have quotes on options again!
19:05 benkay too late for the unfortunate article :(
19:05 Vexual rushed for the china bank news no doubt
19:05 pankkake well he meant that MPEx was unreliable basically. having the quotes back doesn't change that
19:06 mircea_popescu well... the bot not quoting has little to do with mpex's reliability.
19:06 pankkake then the bot was unreliable!
19:07 benkay bringing some light to that "somehow" is the sort of thing one'd expect a 'journalist' to do.
19:09 benkay you missed the sarcasm in the smiley.
19:09 mircea_popescu well... the bot isn't particularly intended to be reliable.
19:10 benkay senior editor can't distinguish market maker from market operator.
19:10 pankkake senile editor
19:16 Apocalyptic pankkake, did you say senile redditor ?
19:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18700 @ 0.00079292 = 14.8276 BTC [+]
19:17 Vexual calls are riskier, so he stuck to looking at puts.
19:17 pankkake redditors are babies
19:19 BingoBoingo Why didn't he mention his failure to fund the CoinBR account with his credit card? http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2013/12/05/betting-against-bitcoin-bubble/?iid=SF_F_River
19:20 Vexual now that would have been some gritty investigative journalism
19:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 84 @ 0.00299499 = 0.2516 BTC [+]
19:28 nubbins` i thought google was backed by the fact that they know everything about our private lives
19:29 pankkake I wonder if there are futures for data storage
19:29 pankkake google could use that
19:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 80 @ 0.0077 = 0.616 BTC
19:32 benkay google is fiat currency
19:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 20 @ 0.0077 = 0.154 BTC
19:35 benkay future for delivery of 100tb
19:39 pankkake I have about 50tb of raw storage at home! not The Google yet, but nice
19:39 Vexual thats a lot of blank dvds
19:40 nubbins` not bad
19:40 Apocalyptic lot of floppies
19:40 pankkake my worst fear would be magnets
19:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 19 @ 0.02888997 = 0.5489 BTC [+]
19:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.02888998 = 0.26 BTC [+]
19:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.02899998 = 0.116 BTC [+]
19:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 16 @ 0.029 = 0.464 BTC [+]
19:47 nubbins` cat has gone haywire
19:47 nubbins` fucking with a zig-zag
19:47 nubbins` pankkake you guys must have some cool zig-zags over there hey?
19:51 pankkake https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zig-Zag_(company) this? didn't know it even existed
19:51 ozbot Zig-Zag (company) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
19:51 nubbins` yah
19:51 nubbins` big name in papers!
19:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 90 @ 0.00317074 = 0.2854 BTC [-] {6}
19:52 nubbins` https://www.google.ca/search?q=zig-zag+cigarette+papers&tbm=isch
19:52 ThickAsThieves http://www.polygon.com/2013/12/5/5177946/ouya-now-accepts-bitcoin-payments
19:52 ozbot Ouya now accepts Bitcoin payments (update) | Polygon
19:52 nubbins` much type. many smoke. wow.
19:52 pankkake so ouya isn't dead yet
19:53 nubbins` it does, however, go to bed at a more reasonable hour
19:53 ThickAsThieves from the comments: "Next, Ouya starts accepting canned goods and other non perishable food items."
19:53 nubbins` heh
19:53 nubbins` i guess that guy's hot sauce won't cut it, then
19:54 ThickAsThieves Bill Clinton doodles: http://cdn1.sbnation.com/assets/3678361/clinton2.jpg
19:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8690 @ 0.00079274 = 6.8889 BTC [-]
19:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16441 @ 0.00079024 = 12.9923 BTC [-]
19:56 ThickAsThieves http://lightbox.time.com/2013/12/05/the-worlds-deadliest-drug-inside-a-krokodil-cookhouse/#4
19:56 ozbot World’s Deadliest Drug: Photos and Video Inside a Krokodil Cookhouse - LightBox
20:06 deadweas1l ;;ticker
20:06 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1065.005, Best ask: 1073.98999, Bid-ask spread: 8.98499, Last trade: 1073.98999, 24 hour volume: 57435.83831195, 24 hour low: 870.001, 24 hour high: 1238.0, 24 hour vwap: 1062.0459
20:12 jamespeerless seems like bit bet's method of calculating winnings is kind of flawed? it lends itself to horrible odds.. why would someone risk 1BTC to receive like .001 btc.. shouldn't they try to match bets of the same fixed odds and just return leftover amounts?
20:13 mircea_popescu huh ?
20:14 mike_c he wants tradesports
20:14 pankkake perhaps you're looking at a bet that is soon to be ending?
20:14 Duffer1 it's not a booky site, just straight up bets
20:14 pankkake oh
20:15 BingoBoingo jamespeerless: You could make a bookie sort of site like that which trades and hedges on BitBet...
20:17 jamespeerless i guess even disregarding the weight factor, if there's only .01BTC available on one option and you want to bet like 3BTC on the other side.. you are risking 3BTC to win the .01
20:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.02959996 = 0.2664 BTC [+]
20:18 jamespeerless i guess you'd be dumb to bet 3btc in that scenario then :P
20:19 pankkake yeah, it's annoying. so I wait for someone to bet, but someone might be doing the same
20:19 jamespeerless yeah wonder how you can fix that case
20:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 16 @ 0.029 = 0.464 BTC [-]
20:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02309999 = 0.1155 BTC [-] {4}
20:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 166 @ 0.00299483 = 0.4971 BTC [-] {4}
20:32 BingoBoingo jamespeerless: As long as your large BitBet bets are large enough to make the other side of the bet seem appealing, generally I've noticed the money to match generally shows up.
20:32 jamespeerless yeah seems to make sense
20:34 BingoBoingo jamespeerless: It also helps when you put the money down earlier in the bet, especially when it is a bet where either side could happen
20:34 jamespeerless yeah gives you better odds and bigger winnings once the other money shows up
20:37 BingoBoingo jamespeerless: Definitely, but you have to watch bitbet for these bets as they occur so money that opposes you can also cone in on favorable weight
20:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 319 @ 0.00316971 = 1.0111 BTC [-] {2}
20:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 78 @ 0.00315 = 0.2457 BTC [-] {5}
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21:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33781999 BTC [-]
21:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23268 @ 0.0007892 = 18.3631 BTC [-] {3}
21:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34000001 BTC [+]
21:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33951502 = 0.679 BTC [-] {2}
21:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33779999 = 0.6756 BTC [-] {2}
21:08 benkay one can also bet on BOTH SIDES ZOMG
21:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34000001 = 0.68 BTC [+] {2}
21:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-]
21:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-]
21:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34000001 BTC [+]
21:15 javanomad ;;ticker
21:15 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1028.15001, Best ask: 1029.99999, Bid-ask spread: 1.84998, Last trade: 1030.0, 24 hour volume: 58609.48103979, 24 hour low: 870.001, 24 hour high: 1238.0, 24 hour vwap: 1053.94335
21:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34000001 BTC [+]
21:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-]
21:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-]
21:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34010001 = 0.6802 BTC [+] {2}
21:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-]
21:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-]
21:22 javanomad ;;ud fnord
21:22 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fnord | A fnord is a propaganda word conditioned in the masses from a very young age to respond to, usually with fear, anxiety, or uneasiness, but unable t...
21:22 ozbot Urban Dictionary: fnord
21:23 nubbins` hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
21:23 nubbins` https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=COG.F#ui-tabs-1
21:23 nubbins` "While the bitcoin price is high ($40+) it is a great time to invest in hardware, as we are getting the most out of our coin."
21:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34010001 = 0.6802 BTC [+] {2}
21:23 Duffer1 lol...
21:23 nubbins` sounds like everyone involved really did their due diligence
21:23 Duffer1 "they" are for sure, the customers... not so much
21:23 kakobrekla STOP SLANDERING BRITNEY NOW
21:23 kakobrekla OH MY GOD POOR BRITNEY
21:24 nubbins` running mascara or it doesn't count
21:24 kakobrekla i dont have a webcam
21:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-]
21:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-]
21:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34010001 = 0.6802 BTC [+] {2}
21:28 kakobrekla i dont see anything good on havelock
21:28 kakobrekla just checked after some long time
21:28 benkay it's almost enough to make a kid turn scammer
21:29 kakobrekla the kid is a idiot scammer
21:29 kakobrekla it was fuckin proven on the forum
21:29 kakobrekla he also sucks cock.
21:29 kakobrekla jurov` nudge nudge
21:29 nubbins` ah, but does he have a webcam?
21:29 kakobrekla not sure
21:30 kakobrekla prolly on his faggotary macbook
21:30 nubbins` call me when there's something to watch ;(
21:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33789999 = 0.6758 BTC [-] {2}
21:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1904 @ 0.000105 = 0.1999 BTC [+]
21:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.1498999 BTC [-]
21:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34010001 = 0.6802 BTC [+] {2}
21:31 benkay hey kakobrekla what's the bitcoin forex hedge fund called?
21:32 BingoBoingo kakobrekla: Are you sure his mouth is even clean enough to suck cocks? With all the the scam in there he might not have room...
21:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33789999 = 0.6758 BTC [-] {2}
21:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34010001 = 0.6802 BTC [+] {2}
21:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 7 @ 0.05025001 = 0.3518 BTC [-] {2}
21:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 5 @ 0.05025001 = 0.2513 BTC [-] {2}
21:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33789999 BTC [-]
21:35 kakobrekla BingoBoingo you know he did find space for whatever inaba is packing.
21:36 kakobrekla benkay panacea
21:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33789999 BTC [-]
21:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.05025001 = 0.1508 BTC [-]
21:36 benkay ThickAsThieves: setting up a panacea PT yet?
21:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.05025 = 0.1005 BTC [-]
21:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34010001 = 0.6802 BTC [+] {2}
21:38 BingoBoingo kakobrekla: Well Inaba is also full of scam as well. When scam prevents adequate blood flow of course Inaba will only be able to offer Garr a limp and flexible member.
21:38 kakobrekla hehe
21:38 javanomad ;;seen unbalanced
21:38 gribble unbalanced was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 21 hours, 37 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <unbalanced> *Part Tops = what drunk people call Pop Tarts
21:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33789999 = 0.6758 BTC [-] {2}
21:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34010001 BTC [+]
21:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34010001 BTC [+]
21:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33779999 = 0.6756 BTC [-] {2}
21:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34010001 = 0.6802 BTC [+] {2}
21:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33779999 = 0.6756 BTC [-] {2}
21:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34010001 = 0.6802 BTC [+] {2}
21:45 thestringpuller ;;ticker --markets all
21:45 gribble (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Mtgox. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure (1 more message)
21:46 thestringpuller ;;ticker --market all
21:46 gribble MtGox BTCUSD last: 1040.03522, vol: 58949.60700610 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 980.4, vol: 59279.49481105 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 960.0, vol: 58177.97009 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 986.99, vol: 11114.25670693 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 987.37, vol: 356.96774261 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 1002.7229, vol: 123607.91300000 | Volume-weighted last average: 996.977492472
21:46 BingoBoingo .d
21:46 ozbot 707408283.05150 | Next Diff in 879 blocks | Estimated Change: 22.6255% in 4d 17h 18m 26s
21:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33779999 BTC [-]
21:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33789999 BTC [+]
21:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.34010001 = 0.6802 BTC [+] {2}
21:49 BingoBoingo Looking on Ebay apparently DEC Alpha based hardware has been retaining some value http://www.ebay.com/itm/DS15-Alphastation-1GHz-CPU-1GB-Memory-DVD-DA-75CAA-AW-/200771528988?pt=US_Vintage_Computing_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2ebeea691c
21:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3378 BTC [-]
21:50 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i suspect it's all for people who want to run OpenGenera.
21:50 asciilifeform as seen here: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=186
21:50 asciilifeform got a pile of these alphas right here.
21:50 asciilifeform had to throw some out last year, to make space...
21:50 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Well, that's what I've been pricing alphastations for...
21:51 asciilifeform my advice, try the pc version 1st
21:51 asciilifeform it's a serious time commitment; not for everyone.
21:54 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Well As a hobby project I'm thinking of setting up a webserver and running the blog off of it. Basically rewriting the parts of wordpress I like and letting the rest die in a fire, perhaps literally http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2013/10/14/a-proper-barrel-fire-a-secure-way-to-dispose-of-data-storage/
21:54 benkay what, lisp in general or the whole symbolics compu-archaeology?
21:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33799999 BTC [+]
21:55 BingoBoingo benkay: Just writing a blogging web ap for myself that I can confirm isn't running on x86
21:55 thestringpuller ;;bc,24hprc
21:55 gribble Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.
21:55 BingoBoingo benkay: But also doing it on beefy enough hardware to just work
21:55 asciilifeform well, genera comes with john c. mallery's cl-http.
21:55 asciilifeform you can work up from there.
21:55 thestringpuller dude what is the actual average price?
21:55 thestringpuller the options don't seem to be priced right
21:56 BingoBoingo thestringpuller: Nothing is priced right
21:56 asciilifeform (btw i have it on fairly reliable rumor that mallery owns symbolics corp. now.)
21:56 BingoBoingo O.o
21:56 benkay sounds like something i'd do if i weren't busy acquring every btc in price
21:56 mike_c you accounting for the 0.1 lot size?
21:56 thestringpuller yea
21:56 benkay trying to, and acquiring
21:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34010001 BTC [+]
21:57 thestringpuller so right now average price of 0.1 lot is 99.6 right?
21:57 mircea_popescu something like that
21:57 thestringpuller so with a strike price of 110
21:57 thestringpuller for O.USD.P110T
21:57 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I've also been thinking about an Alpha+BSD+GNUGuille stack
21:57 thestringpuller (110 - 99.6) / 99.6 no?
21:57 thestringpuller ;;calc (110 - 99.6) / 99.6
21:58 gribble 0.104417670683
21:58 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: you can use any old pile of junk, then, doesn't have to be a DEC.
21:58 benkay ;;ticker
21:58 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1046.96724, Best ask: 1052.97, Bid-ask spread: 6.00276, Last trade: 1046.0, 24 hour volume: 58953.24632437, 24 hour low: 870.001, 24 hour high: 1238.0, 24 hour vwap: 1052.78918
21:58 thestringpuller am I doing that right mircea_popescu ?
21:58 mircea_popescu thestringpuller seems it's morel ike 1050
21:58 thestringpuller ?
21:58 mircea_popescu ;;calc 5/105
21:58 gribble 0.047619047619
21:58 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: if all you want is a web server on a 'i personally set every damn bit' sort of machine, something like this: http://www.kyllikki.org/hardware/wwwpic2/ is a better project.
21:58 thestringpuller how did you come up with that number
21:58 thestringpuller sorry the 0.1 lot is throwing me off
21:58 thestringpuller :(
21:59 asciilifeform necromantically resurrecting ancient iron is not a panacea. the systems of the past had their own security flaws (irix, i'm looking at you)
21:59 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Thanks. I'm still in the reading, research, and playing with languages stage.
22:00 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: pick a reasonably capable microcontroller and learn that.
22:00 mircea_popescu im going into the playing with tits stage.
22:00 mircea_popescu later all.
22:00 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I used to be fond of Sun Hardware, but a lot of flaws seem to come out of SPARC systems.
22:01 asciilifeform it isn't the SPARC (or Alpha, or whoever) that is to blame, it's unix
22:01 asciilifeform and cancerous complexity in general.
22:01 mike_c it's a bug
22:01 BingoBoingo Seems so really ascii
22:01 mike_c http://mpex.co/?mpsic=O.USD.P110T
22:01 ozbot O.USD.P110T last @0.00000000
22:01 mike_c price is half there what it is on the homepage
22:01 BingoBoingo mike_c: The problem is that over time bugs become deatures
22:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.33779999 = 0.6756 BTC [-] {2}
22:02 BingoBoingo mike_c: Maybe the bot knows something you don't?
22:02 asciilifeform there is something to be said for even the most humble microcontroller. the PIC16F84 (mentioned in the link, also my 1st micro as a kid) has separate address spaces for code and data.
22:02 asciilifeform overflow that.
22:02 mike_c er. homepage says 0.01, put page says 0.05. that's a bug :)
22:02 mike_c derp. i was looking at sell on the put page.
22:03 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I'll get to reading.
22:03 thestringpuller hmmm
22:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34010001 BTC [+]
22:04 thestringpuller http://api.bitcoincharts.com/v1/weighted_prices.json - average price doesn't seem to be
22:04 thestringpuller 1050
22:04 thestringpuller dunno where popescu got that number
22:04 thestringpuller I think the bot is misquoting
22:04 thestringpuller either that or where it's getting it's average isn't available to us
22:04 thestringpuller nanotube: you should really fix the ;;bc,24hprc when you get the chance
22:04 thestringpuller ;;bc,24hprc
22:04 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: complete instruction set: http://ece.wpi.edu/~wrm/Courses/EE2801/Notes/ee2801c00lec20.pdf
22:04 gribble Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.
22:05 asciilifeform and yes, that's all of them.
22:06 mike_c why misquoting? It's willing to buy the put at .0104, and that is basically intrinsic value.
22:06 BingoBoingo My favorite part of IRC is the logs basically compile a reading list.
22:06 mike_c seems right..
22:07 asciilifeform there is really very little more fun you could have as a programmer, than on a machine that you can completely understand.
22:08 mike_c ;;calc ((110 - 99.6) / 99.6) * 0.1
22:08 gribble 0.0104417670683
22:09 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Well as I view things I do more regularly (betting valuations in SAGE mostly) I generally thing of my self as a scripter more than a person who programs. I think I'm going to have fun with the PIC
22:09 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: learning a micro will teach you what everyone in the '80s knew: that low-level programming doesn't have to be a misery.
22:10 asciilifeform avoid the ones that are typically used with a traditional OS (most of the modern offering - ARM, etc.)
22:10 asciilifeform those are less pleasant to program directly.
22:16 BingoBoingo Well asciilifeform Looks like I have a project nao, thanks
22:17 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Any particular FPGA toolchains worth leaning or do they get replaced too soon.
22:17 asciilifeform don't learn a toolchain, learn verilog (or vhdl)
22:17 asciilifeform i prefer verilog
22:17 asciilifeform both xilinx ('coke'), altera 'pepsi', and lattice 'inca cola' will happily eat both.
22:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00314994 = 0.315 BTC [-] {2}
22:18 asciilifeform never buy xilinx and altera boards new, they're pennies to the dollar on ebay and the like.
22:19 nubbins` i had an inca cola t-shirt
22:19 asciilifeform avoid boards specifically designed for cryptocoin mining, they are i/o-poor.
22:19 nubbins` think i gave it away
22:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 64 @ 0.00313504 = 0.2006 BTC [-] {2}
22:19 nubbins` micros are great, i made a MIDI clock signal generator some years ago
22:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 163 @ 0.00313513 = 0.511 BTC [+] {2}
22:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 28 @ 0.0077 = 0.2156 BTC
22:22 BingoBoingo Cool, In about 15 years I might finally be a programmer
22:22 asciilifeform more like 15 days
22:23 asciilifeform buy a simple micro board, make a light blink.
22:23 asciilifeform it will be fun.
22:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 22 @ 0.0077 = 0.1694 BTC
22:27 BingoBoingo All I want for Christmas nao is the ability to make a light blink.
~ 20 minutes ~
22:47 nanotube thestringpuller: ah yes, so i should thanks for the ping. looks like bitcoincharts changed urls on me.
22:55 nanotube thestringpuller: fixed
22:56 mike_c ;;bc,24hprc
22:56 gribble 993.56
22:56 mike_c thanks!
22:57 nanotube yw :)
23:10 benkay hey what do you call a snuggie worn backwards?
23:10 benkay A FUCKING BATHROBE
23:10 nubbins` ahh lel
23:10 javanomad seen unbalanced
23:11 nubbins` unfortunately, a backwards bathrobe gets all up in your throat
23:11 javanomad ;;seen unbalanced
23:11 gribble unbalanced was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 23 hours, 9 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <unbalanced> *Part Tops = what drunk people call Pop Tarts
23:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 20 @ 0.0077 = 0.154 BTC
23:11 kakobrekla it does have a hany pukebag nubbins`
23:11 kakobrekla handy
23:12 kakobrekla given the bathrobe has a hoodie
23:12 kakobrekla mine does
23:20 nubbins` ah, lucky
23:20 nubbins` i wish mine did
23:20 nubbins` could also be used to hold popcorn
~ 15 minutes ~
23:35 Kleeck http://www.upworthy.com/every-war-on-drugs-myth-thoroughly-destroyed-by-a-retired-police-captain?g=2
23:35 ozbot Every War On Drugs Myth Thoroughly Destroyed By A Retired Police Captain
23:36 nubbins` waited til he retired, -1, ACAB
23:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 299 @ 0.00290109 = 0.8674 BTC [-] {7}
23:38 benkay ;;ud acab
23:38 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ACAB | All Cops Are Bastards A.C.A.B punks write it on stuff.
23:38 ozbot Urban Dictionary: ACAB
23:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 133 @ 0.0077 = 1.0241 BTC
23:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 170 @ 0.0028902 = 0.4913 BTC [-] {5}
23:47 BingoBoingo Kleek: who the fuck wants to watch an upworthy video?
23:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 70 @ 0.0077 = 0.539 BTC
23:48 BingoBoingo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ7mhLp0abU
23:48 ozbot homicide da union - YouTube
23:51 BingoBoingo Seriously, Youtube, have they even hear of OPSEC?
23:51 nubbins` 7 ways this crazy police chief dismantled the war on drugs!
23:51 nubbins` this police chief retired... you won't believe what he said next!
23:52 nubbins` this gun is full of bullets, watch me hold it to my head and pull the trigger!
23:53 benkay heh. videos.
23:54 nubbins` seriously though, try to imagine something more cowardly than waiting until you retire to reveal that you knew your job was a crock of shit
23:55 nubbins` so brave!
23:55 nubbins` click to share!
23:55 nubbins` watch this retired police captain masturbate in your face, just as he has for the past 35 years
23:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 19 @ 0.0077 = 0.1463 BTC
23:55 nubbins` etc
23:57 KRS|gotyawallet nubbins` i met some old dude like that the other night..from the moment i met him he seemed like a flake..i couldnt imagine a life like that.
23:57 benkay upworthy. always derpful linkbait.
23:58 nubbins` http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/rcmp-head-bob-paulson-supports-dna-collection-on-arrest-1.2452462
23:58 ozbot RCMP head Bob Paulson supports DNA collection on arrest - Politics - CBC News
23:59 nubbins` cops, great champions of justice
23:59 asciilifeform 2023: 'RCMP head Paul Bobson supports organ collection on arrest - Politics - CBC News.'
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