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00:01 nubbins` http://www.luxuo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Scrooge-McDuck.jpeg
00:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00082729 = 17.5385 BTC [+] {2}
00:16 Namworld I got one of those, nubbins'
00:17 nubbins` they're popular this time of year
00:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18705 @ 0.00082832 = 15.4937 BTC [+]
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00:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 0.057 = 0.171 BTC [+]
00:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 565 @ 0.00602619 = 3.4048 BTC [-] {7}
01:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.05689999 = 0.2845 BTC [-]
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01:42 BingoBoingo ;;goxlag
01:42 gribble MtGox lag is 0.825118 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00165352723352 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
01:45 BingoBoingo ;;ticker
01:45 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 256.10002, Best ask: 259.87162, Bid-ask spread: 3.77160, Last trade: 256.10002, 24 hour volume: 51122.17559255, 24 hour low: 233.00000, 24 hour high: 269.79999, 24 hour vwap: 251.45379
01:45 BingoBoingo E, I've sold for higher before. Reckon I'll sell for higher again.
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02:12 BingoBoingo art or heart attack? http://omg.yahoo.com/blogs/celeb-news/strange-kim-kardashian-pre-birth-photoshoot-revealed-204842388.html
02:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.000823 = 5.5964 BTC [-] {2}
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02:37 BingoBoingo Is it me or does -otc get poorer and stupider everytime I go there?
02:38 Namworld ... yes
02:38 mircea_popescu see ? if you went there less bitcoin community'd be smarter
02:40 BingoBoingo Bitcoin needs less "community'ing" and more anti community'ing.
02:43 mircea_popescu less posing moar doing
02:43 mircea_popescu tall order.
02:48 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I've got 5 n00bs since I /join'd -otc wanting to trade... ;;ident'ing and telling them maybe in March
02:49 mircea_popescu is sturles still around ?
02:49 pigeons yes he is
02:50 mircea_popescu guy will eventually get a monument.
02:50 mircea_popescu perhaps in the shape of a cherry.
02:50 pigeons :)
02:51 BingoBoingo A double cherry truck?
02:52 mircea_popescu see, sturles is a prolific first timer with many noobs, helping them get a rating
02:52 mircea_popescu has been, for years.
02:52 BingoBoingo I know.
02:53 BingoBoingo The 1BTC for PPusd guy
02:53 mircea_popescu right.
02:53 Apocalyptic yup
02:53 BingoBoingo Exactly why I didn't care to get into his WOT
02:53 mircea_popescu so the cherry has nothing to do with trucks, more to do with poppin'.
02:54 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo well, people have to start somewhere.
02:54 Apocalyptic i'm in WoT thanks to him
02:55 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Well, my first rating came from repping you on a dying and now dead QandA site it seems
02:55 mircea_popescu o i remember this
02:55 mircea_popescu was it that guy's with the "i reported mtgox to spanish rural police because karpeles didn't send me his id" guy
02:56 pigeons that is paripain
02:56 mircea_popescu that was it neh ?
02:56 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Od course you do. It was indeed that dude's site. Can't even log in there anymoar
02:56 pigeons aka the muppet
02:56 mircea_popescu pigeons well he presumably smarted up over time
02:57 pigeons hopefully
02:57 BingoBoingo pigeons: THere are more muppety, mircea_popescu I don't think he did. I walked away eventually.
02:58 mircea_popescu o, this was the cats wasn't it.
02:58 mircea_popescu "find the one cat pic on trilema", cause i recalled there being one
02:58 mircea_popescu turned out there were like... five ?
02:58 BingoBoingo Yeah, kakobrekla won
02:58 BingoBoingo And I offered the rabbit in the pot as a cat
02:59 BingoBoingo Bitcoin was still so innocent this spring. I mean there was a foundation and everything.
03:02 BingoBoingo Vessenses hadn't sold himself to the poor house yet...
03:03 Apocalyptic is this guy still in BTC business ?
03:04 mircea_popescu in the sense shakaru is, sure.
03:04 BingoBoingo Apocalyptic: Apparently he still runs the thing that calls itself the foundation.
03:04 Apocalyptic oh right, forgot about that one
03:05 Apocalyptic he seems to be better at it than at running coinlab, go figure why
03:05 pigeons zhoutong runs the exchange that gavin uses and nefario got vc money to run a UK exchange
03:05 pigeons no need to hide
03:06 pigeons you can stay
03:06 BingoBoingo Every fall Bitcoin cleanses itself of some scams. Let us hope there is still moar cleansing this fall to come.
03:06 pigeons mybitcoin was so stupid to actually pay 49%
03:06 pigeons and not to reopen
03:07 pigeons but it doesnt
03:09 mircea_popescu pigeons you know, just because the scammer group is pushing each other's scams doesn't really mean all that much.
03:10 mircea_popescu if you ask the various fiat scammers they all recommend each other's sites too.
03:10 pigeons very true
03:11 mircea_popescu anyway, gtg for now. don't make it go to 1k or stupid shit like that.
03:11 BingoBoingo ;;ticker
03:11 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 259.09996, Best ask: 259.10000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00004, Last trade: 259.10000, 24 hour volume: 51513.13054677, 24 hour low: 233.00000, 24 hour high: 269.79999, 24 hour vwap: 251.68567
03:14 BingoBoingo Ugh, n00b on -otc is offering me $300 a coin...
03:15 Apocalyptic BingoBoingo, lulz, who ?
03:16 BingoBoingo Apocalyptic: Some dickbag named broz... Apparently they have a loan to pay.
03:16 Apocalyptic he's a scammer
03:16 Apocalyptic stole some MP recently
03:17 Apocalyptic look he's not authed and his hostmask is .ru
03:17 Apocalyptic seems legit
03:18 BingoBoingo Eh, He auth'd for me for all of 3 minutes. Still not trusting them since they wanted to buy 10 BTC at $300 a coin.
03:20 Apocalyptic why would he deauth ?
03:20 BingoBoingo Probably to scam?
03:20 pircea_momescu BingoBoingo it's a scam !
03:20 Apocalyptic and seriously http://otcdb.us.to/otc/?broz
03:21 Apocalyptic if you can't tell it's a scam...
03:21 BingoBoingo Apocalyptic: That last site looks like nothing. I don't load JS from dirty sources like teh Googlez
03:22 Apocalyptic you still can view the site without JS
03:23 BingoBoingo Apocalyptic: The actual -otc WOT website degrades better without JS though.
03:23 BingoBoingo Also fuck google
03:24 Apocalyptic true
03:24 Apocalyptic that reminds me I have to strip this google analytics thing from mine
03:25 Apocalyptic as mircea said running a btc finance service with GA is moronic
03:28 BingoBoingo Apocalyptic: Well, did you listen when our better spoke? I do mean better as opposed to bettor, because when it comes to bettors I still might percentage wise be the winningest bettor on BitBet.
03:28 Apocalyptic heh
03:30 BingoBoingo From -otc 02:27 <sc4rface> i hear 1024 should be broken this year and 2048 in 2 more, but my understanding is they will only be targeted decryptions and take quite some time even with each one, even 512 has only had a handful of messages decrypted right? i 100% agree iwth you but i am curious if they can decode everything
03:30 BingoBoingo 02:30 <BingoBoingo> ... 4096 should be safe for the next decade or two. If you want to embrace the crypto currency embracing the crypto is kind of important no?
03:31 BingoBoingo Apocalyptic: I was the one who put 1BTC on S.DIce versus S.BBET in February...
03:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6551 @ 0.00082595 = 5.4108 BTC [+]
03:42 Apocalyptic do any of you guys use BitMessage ?
03:43 BingoBoingo I don't trust EC crypto that much. Maybe when they refactor Bitmessage to work off of RSA coin maybe.
03:44 Apocalyptic i trust EC based crypto much more than RSA...
03:45 BingoBoingo Really... RSA comes from the era when the NSA diddled algoriths like DES to actually make them stronger... just use long keys.
03:54 BingoBoingo ;;goxlag
03:54 gribble MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
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04:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00082443 = 7.5848 BTC [-] {2}
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05:06 Diablo-D3 man
05:06 Diablo-D3 I wish icebreaker would quit making up shit
05:07 Diablo-D3 "He could go to direct shares like Cog, Cipher, and even ACTM."
05:07 Diablo-D3 I dont think those people actually exist
05:07 Diablo-D3 Ive never heard of them
05:10 truffles icebreakers gum?
05:11 Diablo-D3 truffles: no, a troll on the forums
05:12 truffles that word is thrown around a lot though
05:13 Diablo-D3 it applies to him
05:14 Diablo-D3 he likes to blame people for things that never happened just to get a reaction out of them
05:14 truffles i dont know him so i cant comment
05:14 Diablo-D3 be glad you're not on the forums then
05:15 truffles more penis waving on forums
05:17 Diablo-D3 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=297530.msg3492902#msg3492902
05:17 Diablo-D3 for example
05:17 ozbot [Active Mining] The UNofficial Active Mining Discussion Thread [UNmoderated]
05:17 Diablo-D3 I dont think he even knows what those words even mean
05:18 truffles "Capitalism requires good investments being rewarded and bad ones being punished." that sounds reasonable
05:19 Diablo-D3 sure, and when you find a country that does capitalism, I'm sure that will be good advice.
05:19 truffles money is power after all
05:20 truffles dont think he's a troll, seems he has views u dont like
05:21 Diablo-D3 hes never said anything that actually makes sense from what Ive seen
05:21 Diablo-D3 its not that I dont like his views
05:21 Diablo-D3 its that he doesnt actually HAVE views
05:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.74985713 = 5.249 BTC [+] {4}
05:22 truffles i find that when ppl have very rigid set of ideas on life its kinda hard to convince them of anything else
05:23 Diablo-D3 maybe thats what his problem is
05:24 truffles u seem really smart so i can in some ways see why u have some blinders on : d
05:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.00082473 = 4.8247 BTC [+]
05:24 truffles im gonna end up on auto pilot and ure gonna think im trolling : (
05:25 Diablo-D3 truffles: basically, hes been attacking the company I ran (and shut down a few days ago) since day one
05:26 truffles ohh i see
05:26 Diablo-D3 I dont know why, and hes never given a straight answer why
05:26 truffles i think u know why
05:26 Diablo-D3 well, yes, its because I think hes a troll
05:27 Diablo-D3 the problem is, hes not a very good one
05:27 truffles there are finite reasons why
05:27 Diablo-D3 so all I can do is keep reporting his posts
05:28 benkay ;;ticker --market all
05:28 truffles fail
05:28 Diablo-D3 ;;ticker
05:28 gribble MtGox BTCUSD last: 265.80000, vol: 52568.60541219 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 256.83, vol: 51990.05219134 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 250.49, vol: 28377.34717 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 244.96, vol: 943.78280182 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 263.3805, vol: 56120.22300000 | Volume-weighted last average: 260.240741012
05:28 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 265.00000, Best ask: 266.09500, Bid-ask spread: 1.09500, Last trade: 264.96007, 24 hour volume: 52568.60541219, 24 hour low: 233.00000, 24 hour high: 269.79999, 24 hour vwap: 252.17514
05:28 benkay really now, truffles
05:29 truffles hi benkay
05:29 benkay o/
05:29 truffles hows life
05:29 Diablo-D3 truffles: but he can troll me no longer
05:30 truffles he's banned?
05:30 Diablo-D3 no, I shut the company down after paying back shareholders almost 200%.
05:30 truffles oh whyd u do that?
05:30 truffles he's that harsh on u?
05:31 Diablo-D3 I did it because there was no way forwards with the company
05:31 truffles but u started it?
05:31 benkay truffles: there's a log.
05:32 Diablo-D3 truffles: not enough investors
05:32 truffles link me benkay
05:32 Diablo-D3 truffles: company made money, but not enough to get anywhere.
05:32 truffles u can always go somewhere with money!
05:32 benkay ;;later tell nubbins' "i think analog bitcoins are a hilariously stupid idea"
05:32 gribble The operation succeeded.
05:32 Diablo-D3 truffles: not for what the company was doing
05:33 Diablo-D3 anyhow, Im going to bed
05:34 truffles money isnt an issue for u it seems
05:34 truffles k
05:34 truffles gn
05:34 benkay truffles: log.bitcoin-assets.com
05:34 Diablo-D3 money isnt an issue for the company.
05:34 truffles nor u!
05:34 Diablo-D3 truffles: I wouldnt say Im rich.
05:34 truffles i would if u can walk away like that
05:34 Diablo-D3 Walk away like what?
05:35 truffles ^stuff u said
05:35 truffles i have no backgroup for what ur company was etc
05:35 Diablo-D3 You mean paying back almost 200% of the original investment?
05:35 truffles ground*
05:36 Diablo-D3 DMC was my company. It was trying to build a ultra efficient data center for high density customers
05:36 truffles it feels like u just threw in the towel
05:36 Diablo-D3 and use a small part of it for mining
05:36 Diablo-D3 the investment market collapsed before enough money came in.
05:36 truffles benkay why dont u tell me the relevant parts
05:37 Diablo-D3 DMC made an investment in asicminer, which made a fair bit of money
05:37 truffles well i gather that ure rly smart hence why it feels that way
05:37 Diablo-D3 DMC raised about 1% of the money that it needed
05:37 Diablo-D3 so it really couldn't go forwards
05:38 Diablo-D3 I just dont think bitcoin is ready for projects that big yet
05:38 truffles i wouldnt know..
05:39 benkay ;;later tell nubbins "i think analog bitcoins are a hilariously stupid idea"
05:39 gribble The operation succeeded.
05:39 truffles are a hmm
05:40 benkay truffles: relevant parts eh
05:40 truffles stop being coy, just say it
05:40 benkay exchange rate and steak are great in argentina
05:40 benkay fuck off i am expending energy i never planned to in repeating myself for you
05:41 truffles u just did with nubbins though
05:41 truffles so angry
05:41 benkay no coffee
05:41 benkay :(
05:41 benkay do note that one of those was for nubbins' and one for nubbins
05:42 benkay anyways
05:44 truffles whats the tastiest thing uve had in argentina?
05:44 benkay cunt
05:44 benkay although i did also have a delightful cafe con crema yesterday
05:45 truffles thats not a nice word u know
05:45 benkay what? cunts are great and delicious.
05:45 truffles what about food
05:45 truffles coffee is ...
05:48 truffles https://www.nestleprofessional.com/mexico/es/Recipes/RecipesImages/NL_6943_39455.6411921296.jpg that looks yum
05:48 benkay had a pretty good steak last night and some handmade tortellini
05:49 truffles nothing traditionally made there?
05:50 benkay not yet
05:50 benkay still finding my bearings
05:54 truffles u should try http://ukcdn.ar-cdn.com/recipes/xlarge/3289fe63-2d5f-44ae-b077-8608c9c63e68.jpg dulce de leche mousse if its on any of ur menu's
05:54 truffles unless ure not into sweet stuff
05:56 truffles obv i have to make it this week now!
05:56 jurov ;;ticker
05:56 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 268.74000, Best ask: 268.84999, Bid-ask spread: 0.10999, Last trade: 268.84999, 24 hour volume: 51643.90168932, 24 hour low: 233.00000, 24 hour high: 270.00000, 24 hour vwap: 252.99620
05:58 jurov up to 300 yay
05:58 benkay we're all rich?
05:58 truffles 268 is 300 now?
05:59 jurov yes 268 is the new 300
05:59 truffles before u know it itll be 10 again
06:00 jurov so what. i have had a good time already
06:01 jurov jelly-filled truffles .. from capncrunch
06:01 truffles terrible punishment to look at pictures of tastey looking desserts on the internet
06:02 jurov .bait
06:02 ozbot http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8e7swG81W1ro109oo1_500.jpg
06:02 jurov arrr.. not very tasty
06:02 jurov .bait
06:02 ozbot http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdwjncZjG41r62m2no1_500.jpg
06:02 jurov better
06:03 benkay mmm tattoos
06:03 truffles know how to make chocolate eclairs?
06:04 truffles that metal stuff looks painful
06:04 truffles why would any1 put it there!
06:04 benkay as it should
06:05 benkay its a signaling thing typically
06:06 truffles "Remember that your piercer is a professional and this is not a sexual thing"
06:07 benkay pretty much everthing is a sexual thing
06:08 truffles thats unfortunate
06:10 benkay why?
06:10 truffles wouldnt it take up too much energy to be that way
06:12 truffles https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-vqLjABAvTPY/TXuGj2xKUjI/AAAAAAAAAHw/li2ihdfZ4_w/s320/crema+de+choco+con+cafe.JPG looks rly nice
06:14 benkay better than thinking about food all time ;)
06:14 truffles haha
06:14 jurov truffles: have you been in vienna?
06:14 truffles nope
06:14 jurov i guess you'd return 20kg heavier from there xD
06:15 truffles lmao
06:15 truffles i dont eat everything i see
06:15 truffles its just the tastey stuff
06:15 jurov ^ exacatly what i mean.
06:15 truffles which isnt in the house often so im okay
06:16 jurov especially avoid going there before christmas :)
06:16 truffles some reason there is a pic of a breastfeeding mother in this google search..
06:17 truffles i need to pick a country to vacation to, thanks for the option : d
06:17 truffles i can always lose weight after
06:18 truffles at least i know they put the irrelevant pics at the bottom of image searches
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07:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00082425 = 11.2098 BTC [-] {3}
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07:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.0008238 = 5.6018 BTC [-] {2}
07:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.359 BTC [+]
07:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 107 @ 0.0010959 = 0.1173 BTC [+]
07:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1300 @ 0.00109599 = 1.4248 BTC [+]
07:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 18 @ 0.31673741 = 5.7013 BTC [-] {7}
07:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.31212011 = 0.6242 BTC [-]
07:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.35 = 0.7 BTC [+]
07:47 ThickerThanThiev gox orderbook is interesting, 10000 btc ask at 273
07:48 KRS1 Hmm
07:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 13 @ 0.31128781 = 4.0467 BTC [-] {6}
07:48 Jere_Jones I see that as someone who is trying to slow down this train to avoid a crash instead of as someone trying to cash out.
07:49 ThickerThanThiev i'm a skeptic
07:50 Jere_Jones You are skeptical of what?
07:50 ThickAsThieves that its someone trying to curb the price to guard froma bubble pop
07:50 pankkake ;;market sell 150000
07:50 gribble A market order to sell 150000 bitcoins right now would net 16959110.7590 USD and would take the last price down to 23.5001 USD, resulting in an average price of 113.0607 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0144 seconds
08:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share
08:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.0565 = 0.113 BTC [+]
08:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3332 @ 0.00082589 = 2.7519 BTC [+] {2}
08:20 firedrops http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24818769 <----wtf
08:20 ozbot BBC News - Computer-generated 'Sweetie' catches online predators
08:21 firedrops you can't tell that's a computer generated model?!?!
08:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.00605012 = 0.1573 BTC [-] {3}
08:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11441 @ 0.00082595 = 9.4497 BTC [+]
08:38 ThickAsThieves firedrops maybe you should a consultant for pedos
08:38 ThickAsThieves be
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09:06 Jere_Jones ThickAsThieves: Any thoughts on Bitfunder closing other than "What a pain in the ass"?
09:14 ThickAsThieves You'd probably need to be more specific
09:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00082439 = 11.8712 BTC [-] {2}
09:21 nubbins` hi
09:21 Jere_Jones I had nothing specific in mind. I was just looking for your opinion on the current "bitcoin stock" climate. Specifically how it affects you since a large portion of your activites seem centered in this sector.
09:25 ThickAsThieves Well, at first we felt it affected us a lot, but in the end we are what we are regardless of the environment around us. As long as that environment exists, we will adapt to thrive in it.
09:26 ThickAsThieves BTCT and BF closing is both good and bad.
09:26 ThickAsThieves Good in that it is culling many sour assets, pushing some to more fringe exchanges
09:27 ThickAsThieves and overall tempering the space as a whole
09:27 ThickAsThieves bad, of course in that many people are "losing money" in the process,
09:27 kakobrekla that is not bad
09:27 ThickAsThieves and that there are now less places for me to do business in the ways we did before
09:28 kakobrekla either they will run out of coins or learn something
09:28 kakobrekla not bad at all
09:28 ThickAsThieves sure
09:28 nubbins` <Rozal> nubbins please take the ' out of your name....very disrespectful
09:28 nubbins` <--scam bait
09:28 ThickAsThieves the larger question here might be, what is the future of bitcoin-denominated securities overall
09:29 Jere_Jones Yes
09:29 ThickAsThieves it can go a few ways
09:29 ThickAsThieves and most likely will go all of them
09:29 Jere_Jones lol
09:29 kakobrekla it can go wherever it wants but securities are obv on mpex
09:30 kakobrekla anything else just isnt secure by definition
09:30 nubbins` insecurities exchange
09:30 kakobrekla correct
09:30 kakobrekla insecure insecurities exchange
09:30 nubbins` "i'll trade 3 units of fear and 2 units of doubt for 0.1 btc"
09:30 kakobrekla hehe
09:31 ThickAsThieves at its core, an mpex security is not inherently more secure for investor, but the platform is better than most, maybe all, in that sense
09:31 kakobrekla ill give you 5 units of scam for 3 of fear, how that sounds
09:31 kakobrekla id argue it is, cause not any shit can get listed there tat
09:32 kakobrekla so even if you go investing blindfolded you got better chances there
09:32 ThickAsThieves maybe statistically
09:33 ThickAsThieves but that doesnt make most mpex securities good invetsments itself
09:33 kakobrekla doesnt mean they are good no
09:33 kakobrekla just better than others
09:33 ThickAsThieves and it doesnt mean that investors can blindly trust either
09:33 nubbins` well, what qualifies as "better"?
09:34 kakobrekla having a signed contract for one thing
09:34 nubbins` objective criteria needed!
09:34 nubbins` ^
09:34 nubbins` that's a good one
09:34 pankkake contract & financial reports
09:34 ThickAsThieves a contract doesnt preclude an issuer or business from breaking the contract
09:34 pankkake and I don't get why anyone else does it
09:34 nubbins` although the feature where you could just change the contract w/o anyone knowing was a good one
09:34 pankkake doesn't do it*
09:34 ThickAsThieves a un-audited financial report does not stop a business from lying
09:35 pankkake true
09:35 kakobrekla no but no contract issuer can do ANYTHING
09:35 ThickAsThieves these issues are shared across all exchanges
09:35 ThickAsThieves most assets had a prospectus with (somewhat) clear boundaries
09:35 kakobrekla prospectus.
09:35 kakobrekla lol
09:35 ThickAsThieves many broke them on the "play" exchanges
09:36 ThickAsThieves but to the buyer they are no worse than a contract
09:36 ThickAsThieves when anonymity is rampant
09:36 ThickAsThieves in mpex's case
09:36 ThickAsThieves there is less anonymity
09:36 ThickAsThieves a lot less
09:37 ThickAsThieves mind you i'm not arguing that mpex or its securities are bad
09:37 nubbins` there's certainly a name attached, at least
09:37 ThickAsThieves i own some of them myself
09:37 nubbins` which is marginally better than buying securities from an anonymous bundle of letters
09:37 kakobrekla yeah, i know you are not arguing cause there is nothing to argue
09:37 ThickAsThieves :/
09:38 ThickAsThieves I think anonymity will lessen overall in the space
09:38 nubbins` yeah
09:38 nubbins` it'll still be there, just pushed to the fringes a bit more
09:38 ThickAsThieves the gap may widen, between shady anonymous exchanges like Cryptostocks
09:38 ThickAsThieves and MPEx, maybe Havelock
09:39 ThickAsThieves I dont know much about this Panamanian acquisition
09:39 ThickAsThieves but they seem confident
09:39 ThickAsThieves and the original Havelock team isnt going away
09:39 ThickAsThieves afaik
09:39 ThickAsThieves and i enjoy working with them
09:39 ThickAsThieves i also look forward to working with MPEx one day
09:39 ThickAsThieves just hasnt panned out that way yet
09:40 Jere_Jones That's a bullish statement for Havelock (IMO)
09:40 ThickAsThieves well we can't be bullish on HL
09:40 ThickAsThieves it isnt publicly traded ;)
09:41 ThickAsThieves We will also see more blockchain-based/distributed solutions
09:41 Jere_Jones Rephrase: I interpret what you just said as a very positive statement for the future of Havelock. :)
09:41 nubbins` their quagmire of a mining fund can be
09:41 nubbins` ;)
09:41 Jere_Jones Specifically, I'm referring to you saying you enjoy working with them.
09:41 ThickAsThieves i know they take their mining fund seriously
09:41 ThickAsThieves but i dont follow the details much
09:42 ThickAsThieves i have no problem saying HL has always been the most accommodating and best at customer service for me so far
09:42 ThickAsThieves as an issuer at leats
09:42 topace ThickAsThieves: we'll be setting up a call with you in the next day or two, if you havent been contacted already by our panama team.
09:42 pankkake I feel that way as a simple user too :)
09:42 ThickAsThieves thanks Topace
09:42 topace panama is back from holidays todya
09:43 topace apparently monday and tuesday were national holidyas down there
09:45 pankkake that 0.0001 minimum on cryptostocks is fun. labcoin is now worth 0
09:45 pankkake I wanted to buy all the company at one satoshi per share :(
09:48 Jere_Jones I had such high hopes for LC
09:48 ThickAsThieves you shouldnt have
09:48 ThickAsThieves we all tried to stop people from day 1
09:49 Jere_Jones The desire to get ahold of the next ASICMiner was (is?) strong.
09:49 kakobrekla yeah tat did it by "reserved" post :D
09:49 KRS-1 Panama Team. I picture a bunch of guys dressed up in suits in a sweaty third-world country office with no air conditioner but with ceiling fans that spin slow. Each has two 1970's style phones, one in red, one black. An old coffee maker sits in the corner and never shuts off.
09:50 kakobrekla Jere_Jones look at penny stocks if you want to ride bubbles
09:50 Jere_Jones fiat penny stocks?
09:50 kakobrekla sure
09:50 kakobrekla its where teh bubbling is
09:50 pankkake like that company named twatter or something
09:51 kakobrekla lol
09:51 Jere_Jones There are many thousands of penny stocks. The odds are... low.
09:52 kakobrekla bigger than having next asicminer
09:52 pankkake http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-04/idiocy-markets-one-chart
09:52 ThickAsThieves indeed
09:52 ozbot The Sheer Idiocy Of The Markets In One Chart | Zero Hedge
09:52 pankkake it was "Tweeter"
09:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 619 @ 0.00018016 = 0.1115 BTC [-] {6}
09:52 Jere_Jones I'm feeling pretty good about NEOBEE. And I'm still holding onto my ASICMiner.
09:52 ThickAsThieves plus look at the full story of AM so far
09:52 ThickAsThieves being the "next AM" now inludes a violent fall in share price
09:55 Jere_Jones Maybe but 5000 ipo shares would've cost around, what, $5000? And it would have generated $2500 in income last week?
09:55 ThickAsThieves you cnat think like that
09:56 ThickAsThieves dont take pieces out of the puzzle to selectively pretend youd have done the ideal thing
09:56 Jere_Jones I have learned that I suck at day trading.
09:56 Jere_Jones Buy and hold is the only strategy that has ever worked for me.
09:56 topace if i had done the "ideal" thing, i wouldnt have sold 10,000BTC in 2009 at $0.04/BTC
09:57 ThickAsThieves thats the thing every single one of us has probly left tons of money on the table
09:57 topace or maybe it was 2010... whatever. somewher eback there.
09:57 Jere_Jones If I reliably and accurately could see the future, I'd be rich. Alas...
09:58 ThickAsThieves well you can always take the simple route and hold bitcoins
09:58 Jere_Jones I do that too. :)
09:58 ThickAsThieves just be careful to distinguish investment decisions from gambling urges
09:59 ThickAsThieves if you wanna gamble they have sites for that
09:59 Jere_Jones Gambling seems to be about the thrill, as I understand it. That has no attraction for me.
09:59 nubbins` if i had done the "ideal" thing, i wouldn't have bought satoshi dice at 0.67
09:59 ThickAsThieves hehe
09:59 nubbins` nor AM at 4+
10:00 Jere_Jones What is important to me is being worth more tomorrow than I am today.
10:00 ThickAsThieves nubbins thats coincidentally about where i started
10:00 nubbins` i started AM around 1.4
10:00 nubbins` didn't know when to stop buying
10:00 ThickAsThieves .425 for me
10:00 nubbins` yeah
10:00 nubbins` i missed out on about 50 btc by holding
10:00 nubbins` but, shrug
10:00 Jere_Jones I'd like the bitcoins that I'm holding to do *something*, not just increase my USD worth. Although that is a worthy purpose too.
10:00 nubbins` can't always get it right
10:01 ThickAsThieves AM was a tricky call, mostly because they didnt deliver a gen2 fast enough
10:01 nubbins` yeah
10:01 nubbins` anyway, even after fucking up the timing on SD and AM
10:01 topace is gen2 even coming?
10:01 nubbins` i'm still up 10x
10:01 topace i thought they said gen2 sucked so they ditched it
10:01 nubbins` which, coincidentally, i could have done by never buying any securities at all
10:01 nubbins` and just sitting
10:01 nubbins` :P
10:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 0.05101666 = 0.3061 BTC [-] {3}
10:02 nubbins` topace, who knows
10:02 nubbins` so hard to keep track
10:03 nubbins` i think i've made more money at this point selling friedcat t-shirts than collecting divs
10:03 topace haha
10:03 ThickAsThieves haha
10:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 9 @ 0.05000001 = 0.45 BTC [-] {2}
10:04 pankkake I am too lazy to check everything but the only thing I know is that I have more bitcoins that I ever bought
10:04 pankkake my actual profits seem to come from the stupidest things
10:04 ThickAsThieves like other investors?
10:04 ThickAsThieves :)
10:05 pankkake well, kinda. like selling overpriced XBONDs
10:05 pankkake or playing with high spreads
10:06 nubbins` yeah, xbond was nice to me
10:06 Jere_Jones That reminds me that I made 5 btc in 10 minutes playing with fucking MinCoin over on mcxnow a couple days ago.
10:06 nubbins` i'm too risk-averse at this point to buy it above recall tho
10:07 Jere_Jones Fuck that was nerve wrecking. I shan't do that again.
10:07 Jere_Jones Nerve-wrecking and stupid.
10:07 nubbins` i think it's wracking
10:07 nubbins` maybe even without the w
10:08 pankkake I usually buy a bit above the recall, but not more than I first invested
10:08 Jere_Jones Oh sweet. A PM from friedcat...
10:08 pankkake thought the price seems to have calmed down now
10:08 nubbins` yeah, it's been around 1.09 for a while i think?
10:08 pankkake yes
10:08 nubbins` if you think they won't be recalled in the next 3 months, still a good deal
10:08 Jere_Jones Huh.... "nerve-racking" it is... interesting.
10:08 pankkake I made so much selling it over and over I wouldn't mind really
10:09 pankkake and if people stop buying it without undertanding, I'll be happy too
10:10 nubbins` maybe they understand all too well!
10:12 nubbins` http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1pzlnd/would_anyone_else_be_keen_on_hearing_an_ama_from/
10:12 nubbins` THE CHIEF SCIENTIST OF THE BITCOIN
10:13 Jere_Jones ThickAsThieves: That 10k wall disappeared.
10:13 ThickAsThieves person was done buying ;)
10:14 Jere_Jones I read that as "person was done bullying" at first.
10:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 944 @ 0.00109698 = 1.0355 BTC [+]
10:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 4056 @ 0.00109699 = 4.4494 BTC [+]
10:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.65768002 = 6.5768 BTC [-] {6}
10:25 kakobrekla 16:24.50 ( Enky ) http://www.sierrachart.com/image.php?l=1383751480534.png
10:25 kakobrekla interesting chart
10:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.65103332 = 5.8593 BTC [-] {6}
10:26 ThickAsThieves what do you find most interesting?
10:26 kakobrekla the volumes part
10:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
10:27 pankkake it looks like this chart https://andyrussell.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/hockey.jpg
10:28 kakobrekla the hockey stick chart
10:28 kakobrekla i dunno how they plan on playing hockey if its getting that warm
10:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
10:29 kakobrekla same thing is with infinite by design.
10:29 kakobrekla err, finite by design.
10:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.64500001 BTC [-]
10:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 26 @ 0.64423076 = 16.75 BTC [-] {2}
10:31 nubbins` https://www.google.ca/search?q=cats+wearing+tights&tbm=isch
10:31 nubbins` lelelelelelelelelelelelel
10:31 nubbins` i'm roaring here
10:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.62667333 = 1.88 BTC [-] {2}
10:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.60888822 = 10.3511 BTC [-] {6}
10:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 22 @ 0.60001822 = 13.2004 BTC [-] {3}
10:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14381 @ 0.00082467 = 11.8596 BTC [+] {3}
10:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.6 = 9 BTC [-] {2}
10:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 166 @ 0.00606068 = 1.0061 BTC [-] {5}
10:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.6 = 3 BTC [-]
10:37 ThickAsThieves AM div is 0.00290692
10:37 ThickAsThieves I need to process migrations before div payouts today
10:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 114 @ 0.00603015 = 0.6874 BTC [-] {2}
10:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 310 @ 0.00602326 = 1.8672 BTC [-] {3}
10:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1137 @ 0.00600331 = 6.8258 BTC [-] {5}
10:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.58436574 = 1.7531 BTC [-] {2}
10:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.58404861 = 1.1681 BTC [-]
10:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.00249999 = 0.1875 BTC [-]
10:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.582 = 1.746 BTC [-]
11:01 kakobrekla ;;bc,convert eru
11:01 kakobrekla ;;bc,convert eur
11:01 gribble 1 BTC = An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
11:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00082357 = 10.5417 BTC [-] {2}
11:01 kakobrekla nanotube this seems to be out of order ?
11:01 gribble 1 BTC = An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
11:02 nubbins` http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/11/mtgox/
11:02 ozbot The Rise and Fall of the World's Largest Bitcoin Exchange | Wired Enterprise | Wired.com
11:02 nubbins` 10/10, would give money
11:02 nubbins` lel
11:02 nubbins` "i am a business man"
11:03 nubbins` oh, here we go
11:03 nubbins` "Even for those who count themselves among Mt. Gox’s friends, this interview was a bit weird. You can’t take the interview seriously if you have “the CEO of the most important business in bitcoin sitting on top of a bouncy ball talking about world-changing ideas,” says Roger Ver, an early bitcoin investor who knows Karpeles well and considers him a friend."
11:03 nubbins` (the most important business in bitcoin!)
11:04 jurov Ctrl+F amazing <Enter> ... not found. disappointed.
11:04 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
11:05 nubbins` 3-page article, maybe they saved that for the end
11:05 nubbins` i couldn't be bothered
11:06 nubbins` <- gonna redeem a casascius coin this evening, fun times
11:07 kakobrekla why
11:07 kakobrekla ill pay you 1.00000001 for it
11:07 jurov nubbins`: doesn't it sell for more than face value?
11:08 jurov i'll pay 1.000001
11:08 kakobrekla 1.0001
11:08 jurov i'll pay 1.001
11:08 kakobrekla 1.01
11:08 jurov i'll pay 1.1
11:08 kakobrekla jurov can has it
11:08 ThickAsThieves he's selling it for fiat guys
11:08 ThickAsThieves lol
11:10 jurov nubbins, srsly. 1.1 BTC + postage
11:10 nubbins` okay, deal
11:10 nubbins` btw, it's a 0.5
11:10 nubbins` >:D
11:10 kakobrekla lul
11:10 jurov /o\
11:10 nubbins` haha
11:11 nubbins` anyway, i've always wanted to redeem one
11:11 kakobrekla ;;auth jurov
11:11 gribble Request successful for user jurov, hostmask kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:0f952a4b73d33f562bd95bca957a7d6cab377c240ef560d8d24c5994
11:11 nubbins` and i might as well do it now
11:11 kakobrekla meh
11:11 kakobrekla how do you check this
11:11 kakobrekla ;;authed jurov
11:11 nubbins` ;;ident nubbins`
11:11 gribble Error: "authed" is not a valid command.
11:11 gribble Nick 'nubbins`', with hostmask 'nubbins`!~nubbins`@stjhnf0148w-142134193006.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.nl.bellaliant.net', is identified as user nubbins`, with GPG key id CF2950F23C844002, key fingerprint 5015BD3D0AE659C8B8632F31CF2950F23C844002, and bitcoin address None
11:11 jurov ;;ident jurov
11:11 gribble Nick 'jurov', with hostmask 'jurov!~jurov@mx.coinbr.com', is not identified.
11:11 kakobrekla ok
11:11 kakobrekla you can run now.
11:11 jurov you were talking with scammer. no deal.
11:11 nubbins` but you have no `
11:12 nubbins` i thought ` = scammer
11:12 jurov lalalala
11:14 nubbins` ok, gotta run to the post office
11:14 nubbins` well. i'm technically gonna walk.
11:14 nubbins` peace
11:14 jurov peace
11:15 jurov i should technically run too.. they were going to repair water mains tomorrow
11:15 jurov but it's closed already and i haven't a drop around :(
11:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.0059999 = 0.12 BTC [-]
11:16 kakobrekla aw
11:29 ThickAsThieves Job postings from the Cointerra site today (11/5/13):
11:29 ThickAsThieves Hiring lead physical design engineer
11:29 ThickAsThieves Hiring principal design engineer
11:29 ThickAsThieves Hiring principal verification engineer
11:29 ThickAsThieves looks like they lost their team
11:31 pankkake http://bitbet.us/bet/550/cointerra-will-deliver-in-2013/?ref=1Eck6cgGzEb9N42CFhcsCBQhZQStoJbHRK :p
11:31 ozbot BitBet - Cointerra will deliver in 2013
11:33 kleeck_ oooh
11:39 ThickAsThieves Mike Hearn mentioned on the Verge
11:39 ThickAsThieves http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/6/5072924/google-engineers-issue-fuck-you-to-nsa-over-surveillance-scandal
11:39 ozbot Google engineers issue 'Fuck you' to NSA over surveillance scandal | The Verge
11:39 ThickAsThieves guess he'll be full-time bitcoin soon
11:39 ThickAsThieves hehe
11:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 625 @ 0.00109699 = 0.6856 BTC [+]
11:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.056 = 0.28 BTC [+]
11:53 ThickAsThieves "In June of 2010, one Bitcoin was worth $0.004 : Now one dollar is worth 0.004 Bitcoin"
11:53 ThickAsThieves heh
12:00 nubbins` inverse day
12:04 kakobrekla ;;ticker -all
12:04 gribble (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Mtgox. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the (1 more message)
12:04 kakobrekla ;;ticker --all
12:04 gribble (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Mtgox. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the (1 more message)
12:05 kakobrekla what is this now
12:05 kakobrekla ;;ticker --market all
12:05 nubbins` ;;ticker --market all
12:05 nubbins` oh no
12:05 kakobrekla first.
12:05 nubbins` doublemint
12:05 gribble MtGox BTCUSD last: 264.79999, vol: 52685.90129942 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 259.00, vol: 52108.42061810 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 249.79, vol: 26473.69957 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 244.05, vol: 857.43699928 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 265.6779, vol: 49596.22500000 | Volume-weighted last average: 261.091852046
12:05 gribble MtGox BTCUSD last: 264.79999, vol: 52685.90129942 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 259.61, vol: 52105.79809514 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 249.79, vol: 26473.69957 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 244.05, vol: 857.43699928 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 266.08815, vol: 49634.97300000 | Volume-weighted last average: 261.379765236
12:06 nubbins` http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7hwvWIK1eM
12:06 ozbot Classic Doublemint Gum Commercial (1985) - YouTube
12:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 96 @ 0.001097 = 0.1053 BTC [+]
12:08 kakobrekla ;;ticker --market all
12:08 gribble MtGox BTCUSD last: 262.99799, vol: 52631.89668315 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 250, vol: 26435.48788 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 266.061894, vol: 49585.83800000 | Volume-weighted last average: 261.508078159
12:09 kakobrekla no tardstamp
12:09 nubbins` http://imgur.com/rADa0rc
12:09 ozbot imgur: the simple image sharer
12:09 kakobrekla ben is short for good, so a good gay.
12:09 benkay the best queer
12:09 benkay the iciest of hots
12:10 nubbins` K is just an unvoiced G
12:11 jurov mkay
12:25 jurov mircea_popescu no plan to make similar calendar? http://www.topdrive.cz/galerie/liqui-moly-kalendar-2014/i/149924/
12:25 jurov (nsfw)
12:25 jurov only in datacenter instead of racetrack
12:28 pankkake I've seen some datacenter porn already. Though I wasn't very aroused by either the servers or the women
12:29 ThickAsThieves nice wiimote http://www.topdrive.cz/galerie/liqui-moly-kalendar-2014/#3
12:29 pankkake http://blog.jonolan.net/society/more-women-in-it-nsfw/
12:29 ozbot More Women In IT (NSFW)
12:31 pankkake eh. one day I was watching a porn movie and wondered what brand were the speakers in the background. audiophilia gone wrong
12:35 pankkake http://www.reddit.com/r/cableporn/top/?sort=top&t=all just need to add the women
12:35 ozbot top scoring links : cableporn
12:38 ThickAsThieves Someone emailed me a migration email in chinese
12:38 kakobrekla at least he isnt worried to have a negative bitcoin balance
12:39 ThickAsThieves ?
12:39 ThickAsThieves you have a neg balance or sumth?
12:40 kakobrekla no, but i got an email from bitbet user saying to cancel his bet cause he doesnt want to have a negative bitcoin balance
12:41 ThickAsThieves haha
12:42 firedrops lol
12:52 kakobrekla myea
12:52 kakobrekla thats what you get when you deal with ppl below x btc
12:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15900 @ 0.0008263 = 13.1382 BTC [+] {3}
12:53 kakobrekla it doesnt mean they are stupid by default, just their exposure is not worth understanding how it works so then others suffer
12:54 truffles still looking down on us no bitcoin ppl kako?
12:55 kakobrekla i do not look down
12:55 kakobrekla i just explained why
12:55 kakobrekla and i take no joy in the matter
12:55 truffles how will u suffer if i dont opt in?
12:55 kakobrekla opt in what?
12:56 truffles to bitcoin
12:56 truffles its a lifestyle u know
12:56 nubbins` signals, noise, etc
12:56 kakobrekla its not a lifestyle
12:56 kakobrekla not generally
12:57 nubbins` you mean dicking around on irc all day isn't a lfiestyle?
12:57 kakobrekla you think bitcoinland has 150 holders?
12:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 65 @ 0.00589615 = 0.3832 BTC [+] {2}
12:57 kakobrekla it has at least 1500.
12:57 nubbins` heh!
12:57 truffles i like to dick around
12:58 truffles until i dont feel like it anymore
13:00 truffles nubbins` of all ppl, u hate dicking around?
13:09 nubbins` i don't get it
13:10 pankkake bitmit shutting down :|
13:10 nubbins` now where am i gonna sell all my shit?!
13:11 kakobrekla do we know the reason why
13:11 pankkake no
13:12 nubbins` "If you are interested in buying the site we will publish further information in about 2 weeks."
13:12 truffles plenty high rollers can swoop in now yay bitcoin
13:13 pankkake the guy mentionned seeking investors a week or so ago
13:13 nubbins` i'm guessing shit volume
13:13 nubbins` and therefore shit revenue
13:13 pankkake well it's their own fault
13:13 pankkake downtime and not catering to seller's needs
13:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.64 BTC [+]
13:16 nubbins` after 5 years, the rubber feet are starting to come off my macbook
13:16 nubbins` SHOULDA BOUGHT A PC
13:16 truffles dun dun dun
13:16 kakobrekla pankkake its the kraken problem
13:16 pankkake oh, you have a mac? you must be an artist!
13:17 ThickAsThieves buy new rubber feat for $1
13:17 kakobrekla you need a market maker.
13:17 nubbins` hahahaha
13:17 nubbins` pankkake: i bought this when i was still an IT drone
13:17 nubbins` ThickAsThieves: i'm gonna use some sugru :D
13:17 ThickAsThieves hehe
13:17 pankkake kakobrekla: perhaps, but I think there are some incentives and helpful features that could jumpstart the stuff
13:18 ThickAsThieves werent they a kickstarter or something sugru?
13:18 nubbins` i think so
13:18 nubbins` it's great stuff
13:18 ThickAsThieves i put feet on all my tablets
13:18 ThickAsThieves i even considered repackaging plain rubber feet as high end
13:19 ThickAsThieves and sell them as tabfeet
13:19 nubbins` i've repaired pot lids, added cool-grips to others, repaired frayed cords, plugged holes in my vac table
13:19 pankkake wow
13:19 pankkake it's the new duct tape!
13:19 nubbins` it really is
13:19 nubbins` and soon it'll be feet for my laptop
13:20 nubbins` the only bummer is that it usually takes only the smallest bit to repair things, and then you're stuck wondering what to do with the rest
13:20 nubbins` so i usually wait until i have a few things that need mending
13:21 nubbins` anyway, i'm going on a supply run. colored cardstock and one of those long-arm staplers
13:22 pankkake > They started as a ebay for bitcoin sites "WITHOUT ADVERTISEMENT"... then now they added a few AD BANNERS...
13:22 pankkake indeed this is a sign
13:22 truffles as a ebay hmm
13:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.0568 = 0.2272 BTC [+]
13:23 truffles i cant recall when utube started with the banners etc
13:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 33 @ 0.057 = 1.881 BTC [+]
13:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00249999 = 0.125 BTC [-]
13:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 0.39 = 1.17 BTC [+]
13:35 bgupta Interesting article: http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-10/24/bitcoin-exchange-collapse-glbse
13:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 15 @ 0.4 = 6 BTC [+]
13:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [+]
13:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [+]
13:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 675 @ 0.00109698 = 0.7405 BTC [-] {2}
13:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1325 @ 0.00109797 = 1.4548 BTC [+]
13:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.65 = 1.3 BTC [+]
13:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20650 @ 0.00082142 = 16.9623 BTC [-] {3}
13:49 truffles interesting read indeed
13:50 truffles not his fault according to article
13:50 kakobrekla not albertos fault!
13:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 50 @ 0.00426525 = 0.2133 BTC [-] {8}
13:52 truffles "As the only non-anonymous team member (after some early scams on the exchange, he implemented a system where anyone issuing shares would have to verify their identity with him before listing), he felt he was putting himself at risk." doesnt sound great..
14:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6895 BTC [+]
14:11 imsaguy asicminer is still trading?
14:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 64 @ 0.00555421 = 0.3555 BTC [-] {2}
14:20 truffles http://bitcoinmagazine.com/2578/interview-with-glbses-nefario/ seemed tougher on him ..
14:20 ozbot Interview With GLBSE's James McCarthy / Nefario – Bitcoin Magazine
14:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6995 = 1.399 BTC [+] {2}
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14:55 kakobrekla i wonder when pirate will have such inteview
14:56 ThickAsThieves when he's done with his trial interviews :)
14:56 kakobrekla dunno , nefario got it sooner
14:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1500 @ 0.00109764 = 1.6465 BTC [-] {3}
15:00 truffles "And if you want to be a serious concurrent, work on you site, it's unusable for anyone not suffering from a Savant syndrome." *chuckles*
15:00 truffles MPOE-PR attracts so much negative attention
15:01 kakobrekla where is that from
15:01 truffles https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112551.80 goat's delisting
15:01 ozbot TYGRR.* assets on GLBSE delisted.
15:02 truffles sometimes this bitcoin stuff is a good read
15:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 216 @ 0.00109793 = 0.2372 BTC [+] {2}
15:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10487 @ 0.00082048 = 8.6044 BTC [-] {2}
15:07 truffles seems only 1 wrong thing could sour customers
15:07 truffles surprising mpex is going strong hehe
15:08 ThickAsThieves their customers come sour out of the box :)
15:09 truffles i do like the freedom bitcoin provides an owner or whatever
15:09 truffles but the conflict of reputation etc..
15:09 kakobrekla truffles the saddest part from reading history is seeing most people do not learn anything
15:10 truffles thats a shame, bitcoiners i take for granted are generally smarter than the overall population
15:11 nubbins` ok, so i redeemed that casascius coin
15:11 kakobrekla yes truffles but those people are not bitcoiners
15:11 kakobrekla they are dickfuckingarounders
15:11 truffles lol
15:11 truffles some of us are just bored
15:14 kakobrekla start doing something useful
15:14 truffles im a work in progress, dont rush me!
15:16 Apocalyptic you found a job truffles yet ?
15:18 truffles eh no
15:18 nubbins` ^ lel
15:19 truffles <nubbins`> ok, so i redeemed that casascius coin?? i feel like i read that before, what word is causing this!
15:19 truffles im going to go work for nubbins` dicksurgery ftw
15:20 ThickAsThieves roadie?
15:20 nubbins` we carry our own gear
15:20 nubbins` uploading video of me ruining something valuable now
15:21 truffles ud love my fix anything approach
15:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 55 @ 0.0059 = 0.3245 BTC [+]
15:24 nubbins` we only work with people who have useful skills
15:24 nubbins` it helps draw attention away from the music
15:24 truffles ouch
15:25 truffles ill just bring a saw then
15:25 nubbins` you might have been thinking of earlier when i threatened to redeem said coin
15:26 nubbins` then jurov offered to buy it and immediately reneged on the deal once i agreed
15:26 truffles sucks
15:26 truffles ill bring my saw to jurov then
15:27 nubbins` in his defence, he obv has no idea what's on the go ;D
15:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 427 @ 0.0059786 = 2.5529 BTC [+] {5}
15:29 truffles kako hates me though
15:30 truffles i dont know why, im a nice person !
15:31 nubbins` prolly because you talk too much, yet offer little in the way of substance
15:31 truffles make someone money?
15:38 truffles nubbins` i thought u agreed with me days ago chatrooms should be for chattery
15:38 nubbins` proof or it didn't happen
15:38 nubbins` http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUqUouxUK5A
15:38 ozbot Redeeming a Casascius coin - YouTube
15:38 truffles inferred
15:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7064 @ 0.00081898 = 5.7853 BTC [-]
15:41 truffles ure kinda like mircea_popescu in a way, dont like dissenting views ..
15:41 KRS-1 heh
15:43 truffles KRS-1 u agree with that comment?
15:45 nubbins` i think i speak for both of us when i say that the comparison isn't appreciated ;p
15:46 truffles u havent put me on ignore yet : )
15:46 nubbins` there's still time
15:47 truffles i know
15:47 truffles it was an honest mistake on my part, i thought he was a chill out guy
15:47 truffles im not so sure about u though
15:48 nubbins` nah, i'm a savage
15:50 KRS-1 truffles: idk maybe
15:50 truffles okay
15:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.0001801 = 0.1801 BTC [-] {4}
15:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.69799799 = 3.49 BTC [-] {3}
15:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.69998998 = 2.1 BTC [+] {2}
16:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.69998999 = 1.4 BTC [+] {2}
16:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.70789921 = 3.5395 BTC [+] {2}
16:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.7227999 = 4.3368 BTC [+]
16:05 nanotube kakobrekla: yes google killed their calc api. so until i get around to coding in the web scraper, blame google.
16:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.72279999 = 2.1684 BTC [+]
16:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12836 @ 0.00082004 = 10.526 BTC [+] {2}
16:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 2092 @ 0.00624712 = 13.069 BTC [+] {8}
16:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 232 @ 0.00625 = 1.45 BTC [+] {2}
16:35 jurov nubbins`: you are welcome to submit the issue to rota ;)
16:35 nubbins` hahaha
16:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.0001875 = 0.9375 BTC [+]
16:36 jborkl https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=326473.0
16:36 ozbot Is Belkin N300 a miner at all?
16:36 jborkl good stuff
16:38 Namworld jborkl... WHUT?
16:38 jborkl They guy thinks his belkin router is a bitcoin miner
16:38 jborkl the
16:40 jborkl ohh nice, 25 btc credit coming soon to a wireless router near you
16:41 Namworld or he ordered an asicminer from someone and received something with "Belkin N300" on it and is now puzzled as to how to make it work...
16:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00082379 = 4.8604 BTC [+]
16:42 Namworld Someone must be selling ASICMINER erupters on ebay or something and shipping these: http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Wireless-Adapter-Latest-Generation/dp/B004N625BO
16:42 jborkl well, i guess he got something that was not vaporware
16:43 Namworld vapor, wireless adapters, what difference does it makes? I got no use for either
16:44 Namworld I would be real mad to receive such a thing if I ordered an ASICMINER.
16:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 11476 @ 0.00015457 = 1.7738 BTC [-] {12}
16:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 19944 @ 0.00012265 = 2.4461 BTC [-] {7}
17:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.058 = 0.232 BTC [-]
17:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] [PAID] 31.13311320 BTC to 10`710 shares, 290692 satoshi per share
17:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] [PAID] 9.98697770 BTC to 361`585 shares, 2762 satoshi per share
17:04 nubbins` https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=326344.msg3500912#msg3500912
17:05 ozbot Belkin ASICMINER Block Erupter USB - How to Install
17:05 nubbins` imagine
17:07 Namworld He could mine wireless signals. Take all the data.
17:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 22 @ 0.00625454 = 0.1376 BTC [+] {2}
17:09 bgupta how do we do the quote all for usd/btc for bot?
17:09 nubbins` Namworld: i'm not sure that he could
17:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 91 @ 0.00638 = 0.5806 BTC [+] {3}
17:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 24 @ 0.00639982 = 0.1536 BTC [+] {4}
17:21 bgupta kakobrekla: If you look at http://bitcoinity.org/markets/bitstamp/USD vs http://bitcoinity.org/markets/mtgox/USD looks like bitstamp price traded higher than mtgox at about 37 mins ago, resolving bet http://bitbet.us/bet/537/bitstampusd-will-trade-at-a-higher-price-than/
17:22 kakobrekla not sure if that is sufficient
17:22 kakobrekla also talk to mp about that.
17:22 bgupta mircea_popescu: ^^
17:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 666 @ 0.00016494 = 0.1099 BTC [+] {3}
17:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 23 @ 0.0064 = 0.1472 BTC [+] {3}
17:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00082288 = 17.2805 BTC [-]
17:33 jurov bgupta it says bitcoincharts is authoritative source
17:33 bgupta ah let me look
17:33 jurov so i'd suggest preparing screenshots from there
17:33 the20year coinbase is now over mtg too
17:33 the20year what site has market share of the exchanges?
17:34 jurov http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/volumepie/
17:34 ozbot Bitcoin Charts / Charts
17:35 jurov but coinbase is not listed
17:35 the20year i didn't see you were talking about bitbet
17:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4950 @ 0.00082379 = 4.0778 BTC [+]
17:42 kakobrekla http://jezus.si:81/render?target=bitcoin.*.transactions&height=500&width=1100&lineMode=connected&from=-2hours
17:42 kakobrekla could be.
17:43 kakobrekla or not http://jezus.si:81/render?target=bitcoin.*.transactions&height=500&width=1100&from=-2hours
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17:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1754 @ 0.00016499 = 0.2894 BTC [+]
18:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 59 @ 0.00225001 = 0.1328 BTC [-]
18:05 mircea_popescu bgupta hm ? so that's the sort of thing wired has been doing for the past coupla decades, to turn itself from a respected trade magazine to a pulp publication nobody credits worth five cents.
18:05 mircea_popescu hardly worth the mention
18:06 mircea_popescu jurov think it'd be an idea ?
18:06 jurov what?
18:06 mircea_popescu you know you dinged me. some nudie calendar
18:08 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
18:08 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 264.00001, Best ask: 264.98997, Bid-ask spread: 0.98996, Last trade: 264.99499, 24 hour volume: 38247.14951674, 24 hour low: 251.30000, 24 hour high: 272.52000, 24 hour vwap: 262.80481
18:08 mircea_popescu so did it make 267 ?
18:11 mod6 hmm from bitmit.net - this just popped up: Bitmit is closing
18:11 mod6 Bitmit is shutting down its services in four weeks. Please complete your orders and withdraw your funds!
18:11 mircea_popescu mod6 yeah they were looking for investors
18:11 mircea_popescu problem with kids with a website that failed at making a business is that they overvalue their website.
18:11 mod6 ooh. hmm, wasnt aware.
18:12 mod6 & ya, 24hr high was 272.52
18:12 gribble Error: "ya," is not a valid command.
18:12 mircea_popescu anyway. at least this clears the field for someone with actual qualifications to make the btc ebay.
18:12 kakobrekla says the guy who sold bbet for 1k btc!
18:12 kakobrekla err 15% of.
18:12 mircea_popescu of course the way things work it'll be 5 different forum dorks redoiong bitmit
18:12 mircea_popescu but anyway
18:13 mircea_popescu kakobrekla free market baby.
18:13 mircea_popescu not private placement negotiation.
18:15 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves yeah their odesk staff left.
18:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 266 @ 0.00624789 = 1.6619 BTC [-] {4}
18:16 bgupta kakobrekla: posted links to the bitcoincharts in http://bitbet.us/bet/537/bitstampusd-will-trade-at-a-higher-price-than/ bet comments... not sure if that's clear enough. IE: 2013-11-06 21:41:00 (265.00 vs 263.27004) 2013-11-06 22:40:00 (262.00 vs 260.10005) Seems the way bet is worded, on technicality it resolves Yes, but your call. (One needs to expand the raw data to see the timestamps)
18:19 bgupta mircea_popescu: Sorry to bother. Think kako can make the bet resolution call.
18:19 jurov mircea_popescu: ah that calendar. dunno, you're an expert here.
18:19 mircea_popescu well no he can't, in that he's not involved in that part. neither am i for that matter, but if it makes you feel better it is pretty much cut and dried.
18:19 mircea_popescu jurov maybe i make it with boys.
18:20 jurov then i'm all for it. if you can procure better models than nubbins
18:20 jurov (sorry nubbins)
18:20 mircea_popescu lol
18:21 mircea_popescu tell you waht, you procure the models, shoot them, i'll pay for it (if you get really cheap models!) and we can have the mpex-coinbr joint male body appreciation calendar.
18:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 68 @ 0.00598984 = 0.4073 BTC [-] {5}
18:22 jurov cheap models? hmmmm we'll see
18:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 182 @ 0.0057211 = 1.0412 BTC [-] {3}
18:24 wao-ender cmon
18:24 wao-ender bu our hacjerspace is open
18:24 wao-ender we alredy made some porn in space
18:24 wao-ender by studenta
18:24 wao-ender s
18:24 mircea_popescu i'm sorry, you need to put that in the form of a question.
18:25 jurov wao maintains the hackerspace here in bratislava
18:25 jurov he just wanted to said he's open to the idea :D
18:26 jurov *say
18:26 wao-ender :D
18:26 mircea_popescu a. well cool then. any pretty twinks in bratislava ?
18:26 wao-ender right
18:26 wao-ender hmm et me think about it
18:26 wao-ender opposite our space is strip club
18:27 wao-ender so it wouldnt be a prob
18:27 mircea_popescu you have a MALE strip club in that town !?
18:27 wao-ender they have even males
18:28 wao-ender I think
18:28 mircea_popescu go bratislava.
18:28 wao-ender I should find some ad paper from their hostess
18:30 jurov yay naked models, soldering iron in the hand, concentrated look...
18:31 mircea_popescu maybe you do a cryptoanal thermanalysis one to make asciilifeform happy.
18:31 mircea_popescu (guy tied to chair with soldering iron up his butt, face of agony. pgp signatures on the back wall)
18:32 jurov but bdsm is moar expensive
18:32 mircea_popescu it could be just the month of may.
18:32 mircea_popescu and the iron doesn't even have to be hot
18:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 155 @ 0.00109797 = 0.1702 BTC [+]
18:44 mircea_popescu pankkake kink ?
18:44 mircea_popescu sorry, i mean link ?
18:46 pankkake the website doesn't exist anymore, thankfully
18:59 auto2nr1_ whats happening here?
19:00 mircea_popescu auto2nr1_ noobs keep popping up off webirc to advertise various laughable "businesses" then disappear.
19:00 auto2nr1_ ahh... thats no fun
19:00 auto2nr1_ thanks for responding
19:01 kakobrekla lol
19:01 auto2nr1_ any good stocks to invest in at the moment?
19:01 auto2nr1_ lol
19:01 mircea_popescu otheerwise you can also check the log
19:01 auto2nr1_ things are kinda slow in the other channels
19:02 auto2nr1_ so i thought i would pop in here to see if there is any action going on
19:02 jurov yes, hot and steamy actoin
19:02 nubbins` calendar action
19:02 nubbins` words hurt, man
19:04 mircea_popescu jurov actcoin, the future of altcoins
19:04 wao-ender bdsm was always expensive.
19:04 mircea_popescu wao-ender im spoiled by getting it for free for too long.
19:04 wao-ender hoho
19:04 wao-ender you will be spanked.
19:05 jurov wao we don't ned to have true leather props here.. i guess cat5 cables will do
19:05 nubbins` those hurt too
19:05 mircea_popescu cat cables will do anything.
19:05 wao-ender at least, tonight we had latex discussion again :D
19:05 mircea_popescu and yes, power cord is way worse than any switch known to man.
19:05 wao-ender in space
19:05 wao-ender lot of weirdos
19:16 jurov btw, did you knew even vatican does have male calendar with selected young beautiful (although properly clothed) canonics?
19:16 mircea_popescu i had no idea.
19:16 jurov i have my contacts :)
19:17 mircea_popescu yeah, get the pope to star in the calendar nao
19:24 jurov oooh the bitstampusd bet got resolved? \o/
19:26 mircea_popescu please direct all bonbons and other tokens of appreciation to me
19:26 mircea_popescu complaints go to kako.
19:27 jurov now that's bit too much goodness for today.. goodnight
19:32 pankkake wow I can't believe I lost that one
19:33 mircea_popescu should be a thsirt
19:36 nubbins` should be the company slogan
19:36 pankkake https://inputs.io/ inputs.io defaced
19:36 mircea_popescu yeah, that got hacked
19:36 nubbins` ha
19:36 mircea_popescu seems iti nvolves some jd wallet or something
19:37 pankkake well that one is new
19:43 Namworld https://satoshidice.com/
19:43 ozbot How to Enable Cookies
19:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 9 @ 0.12552 = 1.1297 BTC [-] {2}
19:43 Namworld Lol ozbot
19:43 Namworld Looks like it just changed designed. Old Satoshi Dice is now moved to legacy.satoshidice.com
19:44 mircea_popescu what's this stage=1 bs
19:44 Namworld No fucking clue
19:45 pankkake it's not responding to me
19:46 Namworld I assume the new owners are fucktards. Stop blinking you damn faces
19:46 mircea_popescu well that cut up head doesn't look good.
19:52 Apocalyptic looks like TF is finished
19:52 kakobrekla why?
19:53 Namworld Props to SatoshiDice for their FAQ
19:53 Namworld Why can't I play in the US?
19:53 Namworld America is the Land of the Free, that's why online gambling in the U.S. is strictly prohibited.
19:53 Apocalyptic two days ago or so he claimed he would pay for the inputs hack
19:53 Apocalyptic now suddenly he won't
19:54 pankkake he won't? source?
19:54 kakobrekla o?
19:54 kakobrekla thats cute.
19:54 mircea_popescu Apocalyptic kinda.
19:54 Apocalyptic pankkake, "Two hacks have left Inputs unable to pay"
19:55 kakobrekla now two?
19:55 Apocalyptic main page
19:55 pankkake yeah well, I doubt it's his writing
19:55 mircea_popescu basically he walked the edge pestering people for about a year, ended up with a busted lip
19:55 Apocalyptic kako, it gets better everyday yeah
19:55 kakobrekla maybe the third attacker left that message there
19:55 pankkake this is obviously a defaced page. "404 BTC Not Found"
19:55 mircea_popescu ;;google bitcoin securities
19:55 gribble Securities - Bitcoin Forum: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=78.0>; shares - What Bitcoin Securities / Stock exchanges are around ...: <http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/12575/what-bitcoin-securities-stock-exchanges-are-around>; MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange.: <http://mpex.co/>
19:55 pankkake so it appears satoshidice is blocking some of my IPs… with another one I can access it
19:55 Apocalyptic he may be in a joking mood
19:55 mircea_popescu herp.
19:55 kakobrekla mircea_popescu thats old, we now have insecurities.
19:56 mircea_popescu ;;google bitcoin insecurities
19:56 gribble Empirical Analysis of Bitcoin-Exchange Risk - Financial ...: <http://fc13.ifca.ai/proc/1-2.pdf>; BitFloor Joins List of Compromised BitCoin Exchanges - Slashdot: <http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/09/05/1238214/bitfloor-joins-list-of-compromised-bitcoin-exchanges>; EFF Ditches Bitcoin as Alternative Donation Currency Due to Legal ...: <http://siliconangle.com/blog/2011/06/21 (1 more message)
19:56 kakobrekla google is lag.
19:56 mircea_popescu srsly.
19:57 mircea_popescu ty
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20:15 pankkake wow, well, GPG signed message now. "Two hacks totalling about 4100 BTC have left Inputs.io unable to pay all user balances."
20:15 auto2nr1_ whoa really?
20:15 Apocalyptic pankkake, but obviously it's a defaced page, right..
20:16 pankkake Well I didn't take a "404 Bitcoins not found" seriously. this, I do
20:18 Apocalyptic you don't know TF humour then
20:18 pankkake oh.
20:18 Apocalyptic which is kinda misplaced in this situation I agree
20:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8834 @ 0.00082392 = 7.2785 BTC [+] {2}
20:19 mircea_popescu i don';t see any reason to take it as humor
20:19 asciilifeform this is all reminiscent of, say, pre-Otis elevators - that would sometimes plunge, occupants screaming, splat.
20:20 dexX7 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=290860.0 the signature matches
20:20 ozbot TradeFortress PGP Key
20:20 auto2nr1_ dexx7 whats up man
20:20 asciilifeform with the one exception that people in those times, for the most part, were clever enough to refuse the ride.
20:20 auto2nr1_ good to see you in another channel
20:20 auto2nr1_ =D
20:20 dexX7 hehe
20:21 pankkake "Cold storage system protects coins against server compromise" oops
20:23 Apocalyptic I find it amazing he had 4100 btc on the hot one
20:23 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
20:32 kakobrekla could be his plan all along
20:32 kakobrekla 4100 is way more that hes ever gonna make wit that
20:33 pankkake yeah, that's the big issue with hacks
20:35 pankkake https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83794.msg3501183#msg3501183 maybe it's the hacker trolling
20:35 ozbot List of Major Bitcoin Heists, Thefts, Hacks, Scams, and Losses
20:35 auto2nr1_ has blockchain.info ever been hacked?
20:36 pankkake blockchain.info doesn't have your private key. however, they could get their javascript replaced, for those who don't have the browser extension
20:36 auto2nr1_ i see
20:36 auto2nr1_ so they dont have a negative history right?
20:36 auto2nr1_ i have coins with them
20:37 pankkake you probably should back up your private key if not already
20:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.1489 BTC [+]
20:44 auto2nr1_ yea i have a backup
20:44 auto2nr1_ =P
20:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14950 @ 0.00082409 = 12.3201 BTC [+]
20:47 Apocalyptic kako, so we got a bitcoinica self-hack reloaded here
20:47 kakobrekla could be anything
20:47 Apocalyptic could make sense
20:50 mircea_popescu auto2nr1_ iirc they had some injectuion attempts, but nothing serious
20:50 auto2nr1_ oh i see.. thanks for the heads up man
20:50 auto2nr1_ you are very helpful
20:50 mircea_popescu that's how their js to check the js came about
20:51 pankkake but what if you hack the js to check the js
20:51 pankkake add a js to check the js that checks the js?
20:51 mircea_popescu i think the idea was you save this locally
20:52 mircea_popescu i'm a little rusty on it as i never used the thing
20:52 pankkake yeah that's what their browser extension does
20:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.3308 = 1.654 BTC [+] {3}
20:52 mircea_popescu right
20:52 nubbins` there's also a "chrome app" version
20:52 nubbins` that you launch via chrome app launcher
20:54 mircea_popescu http://blogs.csoonline.com/application-security/2821/googles-web-crawler-linked-sql-injection-attempts
20:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 70 @ 0.00639899 = 0.4479 BTC [-]
20:59 nubbins` surprised this is only being discovered now
21:00 pankkake I think I heard of it earlier. or at least, the google crawler being used for evil
21:00 nubbins` around 5 years ago there was a big wave of attacks targeting classic ASP sites that apparently just trawled google search results for filetype:asp
21:01 mircea_popescu "Update please, why this message, what is the timeframe for processing withdrawals again?"
21:01 mircea_popescu gotta love the focus of bitcoin communiteers.
21:01 mircea_popescu "hello sir, you have cancer, it's terminal" "pls give update when i'll be able to run again ty"
21:02 nubbins` they're all spoiled from the constant updates that scammers provide
21:02 nubbins` wait, that doesn't make sense!
21:02 nubbins` but it's true anyway!
21:03 mircea_popescu i haven't seen any updates from nubbins` recently
21:03 mircea_popescu i think it's all a scam.
21:04 pankkake I don't have my shirt. it's a scam
21:04 pankkake I demand daily updates of its worldwide position
21:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00082425 = 11.8692 BTC [+] {2}
21:04 pankkake is canada even a real country?
21:04 nubbins` oh shit guys i've got a train to catch
21:04 nubbins` just a quick update first
21:04 nubbins` the shirts are hashing away
21:04 nubbins` first divs tomorrow
21:05 mircea_popescu "The attacker compromised the hosting account through compromising email accounts (some very old, and without phone numbers attached, so it was easy to reset). The attacker was able to bypass 2FA due to a flaw on the server host side."
21:06 nubbins` without phone numbers attached
21:06 Namworld [21:04] <pankkake> is canada even a real country?
21:06 Namworld I'll have to go with...
21:06 Namworld ...
21:06 Namworld Yes
21:06 nubbins` it's actually called canadia
21:06 pankkake it sounds like a classic, which happened with ovh : reset the server in rescue mode through the hoster
21:09 mircea_popescu ;;google trilema mpex post mortem
21:09 gribble MPEx breach - post mortem pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/mpex-breach-post-mortem>; MPEx - Status Report pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/mpex-status-report>; ROTA, post mortem. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/rota-post-mortem>
21:09 mircea_popescu that's what it is, the story of the one that got through, out of at least half a dozen
21:11 pankkake http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-07-2013&bots=true#174564
21:12 ozbot #bitcoin-assets log
21:12 mircea_popescu myeah.
21:13 mircea_popescu if only he read trilema moar pen-in-hand back in september and reviewed the entire rat's nest of old emails at that point
21:13 kakobrekla how much of the total loot is gone?
21:13 mircea_popescu the 4k btc he says he's lost would still be his.
21:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 13103 @ 0.00205125 = 26.8775 BTC [-] {19}
21:27 mircea_popescu http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/11/05/man-seeks-millions-after-nm-police-force-colonoscopy-in-drug-search
21:27 ozbot Man Seeks Millions After N.M. Police Force Colonoscopy in Drug Search - US News and World Report
21:31 KRS- ouch! http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bitcoin-total-joke-224200448.html
21:32 mircea_popescu KRS- also in the news, bitcoin thinks the "media" is a joke.
21:32 mircea_popescu the only diff of course would be that what bitcoin says of the media matters. the reverse... not so much.
21:35 pankkake it isn't the first time I see the military argument
21:35 pankkake how can you say that without being ashamed?
21:36 mircea_popescu idiots are never ashamed.
21:36 dexX7 almost sounds like this guy is joking
21:37 mircea_popescu well, let me make it public anyway : i am keeping a list of retards from the old media, I will spend my time making it impossible for them to earn a living once bitcoin takes over.
21:37 mircea_popescu the old "you're through in this town" hollywood thing is going to be nothing compared, come 2020 or w/e.
21:37 nubbins` lel, force you to use usd
21:37 nubbins` shut up and drink your oil!
21:37 Apocalyptic hehe mircea
21:38 Apocalyptic looking forward to that
21:38 mircea_popescu Apocalyptic two can play that game. "o, you posted about how bitcoin sucks in 2013 ? aww, off to siberia baby."
21:39 mircea_popescu time to make it clear that if what you have to say about bitcoin is unbased negative idiocy of the sort, you'd better make damned sure you're retired within the next few years.
21:39 dexX7 http://finance.yahoo.com/video/does-bitcoin-still-shine-213900481.html << this is the same guy
21:39 ozbot Does Bitcoin still shine? | Watch the video - Yahoo Finance
21:40 dexX7 "people on teh internet having fun"
21:40 KRS- Its hard when someone new to bitcoin reads an article that might not think critcally
21:40 KRS- Their opinions can be easily swayed.
21:40 mircea_popescu the cost of that is of course wholly borne by that person.
21:40 mircea_popescu it's their future that's being thrown in the toilet.
21:40 mircea_popescu and i guess that's what they get for trusting shills.
21:41 KRS- But then the sheeple multiplicative factor kicks in with the aid of mass media powered by the Interwebs.
21:41 mircea_popescu makes little difference.
21:42 mircea_popescu people's lives don't consist of cellphone interaction today because of media reports. people's lives consist of cellphone interaction today because that's what cellphones do. period.
21:42 KRS- Yahoo! finance was supposed to bring news not opinionated writing to site visitors.
21:42 Apocalyptic KRS-, yeah, "supposed"
21:42 mircea_popescu nobody has to agree with anything, approve anything and so on. technology is not optional.
21:45 mircea_popescu http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/11/06/obamacare-restrictions-lead-brooklyn-couple-to-consider-divorce/
21:45 ozbot Obamacare Restrictions Lead Brooklyn Couple To Consider Divorce « CBS New York
21:45 KRS- of course..i just like neutral news..i think of all the sheeple out there that will read that
21:45 mircea_popescu quoted mostly for the "“I’m an educated, very well plugged-in person" girl sez.
21:46 mircea_popescu KRS- yeah. sucks when whatever you trust betrays that trust.
21:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 20 @ 0.05280499 = 1.0561 BTC [-] {4}
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22:10 nubbins` i fucking hate the word sheeple
22:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.0008259 = 4.0469 BTC [+]
22:11 Apocalyptic why ?
22:11 Apocalyptic it sums it up perfectly
22:11 nubbins` no, it makes me feel embarassed for the person using it
22:13 nubbins` it's a cliched, trite, dull word that smacks of unsophistication
22:13 nubbins` it's boorish
22:13 mircea_popescu so what do you use
22:13 nubbins` it's condescending in the manner of a teenaged boy who thinks he's figured everything out
22:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-]
22:13 nubbins` PEOPLE
22:14 mircea_popescu do you see a problem with not calling virgin females women ?
22:14 nubbins` the same implication is there, but i don't have to use a miscarriage of a clumsy forced portmanteau to do it
22:14 nubbins` "listen up sheeple"
22:15 nubbins` i instinctively stop listening/reading when i see it
22:15 nubbins` because it's always bracketed with idiocy
22:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.00601 = 0.6311 BTC [-]
22:15 mircea_popescu but do you see a problem with not calling virgin females women.
22:16 nubbins` what do i care what they're called?
22:16 nubbins` oh
22:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.71 BTC [+]
22:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.00601 = 0.6311 BTC [-]
22:25 mircea_popescu just making the point that in the same way people might not want to call idiots "people"/
22:25 mircea_popescu sure, one day they too may be people. that day hasn't so far come.
22:26 nubbins` well, it doesn't necessarily need to be people
22:26 nubbins` but sheeple shouldn't even be considered
22:27 mircea_popescu wlel i don't use it myself.
22:27 nubbins` that's because you're not a kid who just discovered his first conspiracy website
22:28 mircea_popescu that should be a brand
22:28 mircea_popescu "my first conspiraci website"
22:28 mircea_popescu "my first hentai site"
22:28 mircea_popescu "my etc"
22:31 BingoBoingo "My first waterboarding"
22:32 nubbins` my first victim
22:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00082648 = 8.5954 BTC [+] {2}
22:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-]
22:36 BingoBoingo In college late in the academic year the roommates and the self were having a discussion on the ethics of torture so we all took turns getting waterboarded. Some observations 1. It terrifies the most when the cloth is soaked. 2. It isn't very pleasant
22:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-]
22:40 BingoBoingo 3. Two people from that night haven't spoken to the others in years while the other two still drink together most every weekend.
22:42 chaang-noi for people who dont know, tradefortress was "hacked" and lost over 4000 coins
22:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 22 @ 0.00601181 = 0.1323 BTC [+] {3}
22:43 BingoBoingo chaang-noi: Old news, happened hours ago. Barely a memory in bitcoin time
22:43 chaang-noi "for people who dont know," clearly not for you...
22:43 Apocalyptic the goat is out of the loop
22:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.7 = 4.9 BTC [-] {2}
22:44 chaang-noi the goat is making sure everyone waking up is in the loop...
22:44 kakobrekla have you heard, pirate defaulted
22:45 kakobrekla ;;ticker
22:45 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 275.00000, Best ask: 277.00000, Bid-ask spread: 2.00000, Last trade: 274.20000, 24 hour volume: 45884.19332570, 24 hour low: 253.50000, 24 hour high: 277.09850, 24 hour vwap: 265.39350
22:45 chaang-noi thanks kako...
22:45 kakobrekla you are welcome!
22:46 chaang-noi i guess i wont be getting them coins back after all, with that interest i was up to 143,453,835,365 coins owed :(
22:46 kakobrekla hehe
22:46 chaang-noi so much for buying japan
22:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.00605 = 0.1573 BTC [+] {2}
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23:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.32782971 BTC [-]
23:02 mircea_popescu ;;tslb
23:02 gribble Time since last block: 6 minutes and 10 seconds
23:06 dexX7 ;;goxlag
23:06 gribble MtGox lag is 0.8626 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00172864074185 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
23:07 dexX7 did johnk come back by the way?
23:08 mike_c can you say honeypot? http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/11/06/silk-road-2-0-launches-promising-a-resurrected-black-market-for-the-dark-web/
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23:09 mircea_popescu lol mike_c
23:09 mircea_popescu cute.
23:13 mike_c dexX7: showed up a few days ago looks like. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=322809.msg3474594#msg3474594
23:14 dexX7 ah, thanks for the link
23:14 kakobrekla but has not paid?
23:15 mike_c let me spoon feed it to you :D "John K logged on, replied, and released the escrow funds today."
23:15 kakobrekla om nom
23:16 mircea_popescu yeah looks like the guy had some sort of personal problems or w/e
23:16 mircea_popescu he's been quiet
23:16 kakobrekla maybe he held the coins in inputs.io
23:17 Apocalyptic would be unfortunate
23:27 mike_c 0 volume on s.mg, s.nsa, s.bbet since sunday. bubble scaring investors maybe, turning them into hoarders..
23:27 mircea_popescu mpex investors are traditionally the buy and hold sort.
23:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.71 BTC [+]
23:37 mike_c yeah, looking at numbers it's not unusual. there have been a bunch of times this year that bbet went 3 or more days without trading.
23:39 mike_c wow, mpoe only has two gaps all year (the outages). other than that, traded every day.
23:40 mircea_popescu yeah whole different dynamic
23:40 mircea_popescu then again it's about two degrees of magnitude heavier or some shit
23:42 dub that sugru shit looks cool
23:42 dub quite close to shoegoo though
23:47 mike_c ;;bc,24hprc
23:47 gribble 259.98
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