00:00 |
pankkake |
lol |
00:00 |
dexX7 |
why should they use picostocks lol |
00:00 |
nejon |
based on how clueless some support people can be |
00:00 |
dexX7 |
nothing against picostocks though |
00:00 |
pankkake |
yes, 1) why picostocks 2) why no announcement before actual ipo 3) the support guy didn't say i don't know, he said no stock selling |
00:01 |
nejon |
yes because he knows they are selling machines |
00:01 |
nejon |
what they should use then? |
00:02 |
dexX7 |
bf i think |
00:02 |
nejon |
and that would make a difference :D |
00:02 |
dexX7 |
ukyo spends a lot of coins for lawyers to make bf more legit |
00:02 |
pankkake |
and also would spend the 5 min required to see if it's legit |
00:03 |
nejon |
maybe you should spend more than 5min too |
00:03 |
pankkake |
nejon: at that point, I'm starting to think you're the scammer behind it |
00:04 |
nejon |
based on what? |
00:05 |
pankkake |
defending an obvious scam |
00:05 |
nejon |
can you point where I'm defending something? |
00:06 |
nejon |
anyway I would find it strange if bitfury team member was involved in scam like that |
00:07 |
pankkake |
what? |
00:07 |
nejon |
but I guess we will see soon enough |
00:07 |
pankkake |
see what? |
00:07 |
dexX7 |
so what's the story behind this sec form? |
00:07 |
pankkake |
The Securities and Exchange Commission has not necessarily reviewed the information in this filing and has not determined if it is accurate and complete. |
00:08 |
pankkake |
The reader should not assume that the information is accurate and complete. |
00:08 |
nejon |
maybe you should ask the support guy about that form too.. |
00:08 |
nejon |
I'm sure he is in the know |
00:08 |
nejon |
like many people working in support |
00:10 |
dexX7 |
right now trading hasn't started yet on picostocks |
00:11 |
dexX7 |
strange |
00:11 |
dexX7 |
https://blockchain.info/tx/c5c6436dc53cd90306e6e9f958af32cde67506888ed012e4d57cd34e6bb5460a 50 btc were paid as "ipo fee" |
00:11 |
ozbot |
Bitcoin Transaction c5c6436dc53cd90306e6e9f958af32cde67506888ed012e4d57cd34e6bb5460a |
00:11 |
nejon |
what is strange about that? |
00:11 |
pankkake |
50 btc to list on picostocks?! |
00:11 |
dexX7 |
yes |
00:11 |
pankkake |
lol |
00:12 |
VanCleef |
very legit |
00:12 |
dexX7 |
it's strange, because i wouldn't expect a scammer pay 50 btc for something that could be busted within a few minutes |
00:12 |
nejon |
ah |
00:12 |
VanCleef |
gotta spend money to scam money |
00:12 |
dexX7 |
sure, but all it needs is a word from cointerra to end it |
00:12 |
nejon |
anyway I'm not convinced by some random support reply |
00:13 |
nejon |
and why wouldn't leszek verify with cointerra? |
00:14 |
nejon |
"If You accept the IPO evaluation You can close it at a selected price. After this You have 2 weeks to sign the sales contract with PicoStocks and submit the signed documents to the IPO office. If You miss this deadline the IPO will be canceled (the asset will be withdrawn from the system). You can also cancel the IPO any time yourself if You are not satisfied with the results and |
00:14 |
nejon |
withdraw the asset. In such case all investments in bids for the shares of this asset will be returned to the investors." |
00:14 |
nejon |
so it's impossible to scam if the owner of the exchange is not involved |
00:14 |
nejon |
which I would find very strange if he was |
00:16 |
dexX7 |
https://picostocks.com/users/bitcoins/25 << that account payed the 50 btc |
00:16 |
ozbot |
PicoStocks : 1BASfHfaxhR3tb1HpHqiLBkSxPnc4A7AYn : User's Bitcoin transfer log |
00:16 |
dexX7 |
Created:2012-12-22 14:02:50 |
00:17 |
dexX7 |
rephrased: not this account payed the fee, but the fee was payed from the same address |
00:19 |
nejon |
quite a lot of bitcoins on that account |
00:23 |
nejon |
that account seems like it's associated with picostock owners |
00:24 |
nejon |
doesn't really help anything |
00:24 |
dexX7 |
maybe it's just a transit address |
00:25 |
dexX7 |
ipo creator -> picostocks transit -> x |
00:25 |
nejon |
yep |
00:25 |
nejon |
and ipo fee might have been paid with bank transfer too |
00:26 |
nejon |
picostocks has that option |
00:26 |
dexX7 |
https://picostocks.com/docs/index/31 |
00:26 |
ozbot |
PicoStocks.com |
00:26 |
dexX7 |
here are some names about people involved |
00:26 |
dexX7 |
i don't know them |
00:26 |
pankkake |
why bother? if it's legit, cointerra will announce it |
00:27 |
nejon |
I think they wouldn't announce |
00:27 |
pankkake |
what |
00:27 |
nejon |
they have just filed with sec |
00:28 |
nejon |
sec hasn't made any decision |
00:28 |
pankkake |
so they certainly would not show it on picostocks then |
00:28 |
nejon |
what do you know about the legal issues? |
00:29 |
pankkake |
what the fuck |
00:29 |
nejon |
dexX7 I think leszek is the main guy |
00:29 |
dexX7 |
of picostocks? |
00:29 |
nejon |
he was one of the main investors in bitfury too |
00:29 |
nejon |
yes |
00:29 |
dexX7 |
k |
00:29 |
nejon |
with bioinfobank |
00:29 |
dexX7 |
and koji, do you know him? |
00:29 |
nejon |
koji is his account |
00:29 |
nejon |
on picostocks |
00:30 |
dexX7 |
ahh i see |
00:30 |
nejon |
you can see the info on that account |
00:30 |
dexX7 |
i'm not familiar with ps :) |
00:30 |
nejon |
I bought some 100thash shares long ago |
00:30 |
nejon |
have a friend who knows leszek |
00:31 |
dexX7 |
so, maybe i just don't see it. when does the ipo start? |
00:31 |
nejon |
it has started already |
00:31 |
nejon |
but closes after 7th |
00:31 |
dexX7 |
no asks, no trades, no volume |
00:32 |
nejon |
total bid volume:2819.29566986 |
00:32 |
nejon |
btc |
00:32 |
dexX7 |
https://picostocks.com/stocks |
00:32 |
ozbot |
PicoStocks.com |
00:32 |
dexX7 |
yes |
00:32 |
dexX7 |
people placed bids |
00:32 |
nejon |
there are ipo shares for 8000btc |
00:32 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 4350 @ 0.00017 = 0.7395 BTC [-] |
00:33 |
dexX7 |
but the issuer hasn't put up shares for sale |
00:33 |
nejon |
I'm just trying to find out if this is legit |
00:33 |
nejon |
would be suprised if leszek was involved in a scam |
00:33 |
nejon |
he has made a lot of money with bitfury |
00:34 |
nejon |
and why ruin the reputation |
00:34 |
dexX7 |
please report back, if you get some information on it |
00:34 |
nejon |
I've sent a few emails but no response yet |
00:35 |
nejon |
dexX7 the shares will be put up for sale when the ipo is closed |
00:36 |
nejon |
and 7th is the deadline |
00:36 |
pankkake |
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7246/the-rush-to-bitcoin-asics-ravi-iyengar-launches-cointerra grep shares |
00:36 |
ozbot |
AnandTech | The Rush to Bitcoin ASICs: Ravi Iyengar launches CoinTerra |
00:36 |
nejon |
after 7th* |
00:36 |
dexX7 |
now i understand.. |
00:36 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1027 @ 0.0012746 = 1.309 BTC [-] {2} |
00:37 |
nejon |
anyway even if the ipo is legit then there is still the thing about cointerra delivering something :) |
00:37 |
dexX7 |
"The concept the selling of shares is blurring a legal line, especially in the US. We are not sure if that model is possible within our boundaries. There is also the issue regarding dealing with Bitcoin and converting to cash, thus becoming a money service. We do not want to be in any grey area, and we want to be clear with our business model. The goal of CoinTerra is to be a hardware |
00:37 |
dexX7 |
product company first, rather than a base for Bitcoin distribution." |
00:39 |
nejon |
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1l0plk/an_insiders_take_on_cointerra_the_bitcoin_mining/cburgf6 |
00:39 |
ozbot |
dtuur comments on An Insiders Take on CoinTerra & the Bitcoin Mining Sector |
00:39 |
nejon |
then there is also this |
00:40 |
nejon |
"CoinTerra will announce other products in the future. Also, chip sales find their way back to smaller scale investors in the form of IPO's and cloud hashing services." |
00:40 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 172 @ 0.00812 = 1.3966 BTC [-] |
00:41 |
dexX7 |
"in form of ipo's"... sounds more like a project like the 100th mine |
00:41 |
dexX7 |
but hard to tell |
00:42 |
nejon |
I'm leaning towards the ipo not being a scam because leszek does really have more to lose than win if he would be involved in that |
00:43 |
nejon |
he is running the exchange with known identity and he is making a lot of money already with the bitfury equipment |
00:49 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 80 @ 0.01241 = 0.9928 BTC [-] {5} |
00:51 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [BMF] 100 @ 0.0155 = 1.55 BTC [+] |
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~ 23 minutes ~ |
01:14 |
pankkake |
I didn't get my winnings for http://bitbet.us/bet/527/ebay-will-accept-btc-before-october-6/ |
01:18 |
kakobrekla |
wasnt paid out yet |
01:19 |
jgja |
is Labcoin moving to direct shares on Monday? |
01:19 |
kakobrekla |
nejon we all know who nefario is, too. |
01:19 |
kakobrekla |
;;seen nefario |
01:19 |
gribble |
nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 1 week, 4 days, 9 hours, 19 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <nefario> Those assets are not listed or traded anymore |
01:19 |
pankkake |
it's weird to show the resolution but not have the payout |
01:20 |
kakobrekla |
money cums soon after the resolution, up to 24hrs is normal |
01:34 |
|
kakobrekla's a slow cummer |
01:36 |
pankkake |
a scummer |
01:43 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 400 @ 0.00026993 = 0.108 BTC [+] {3} |
01:50 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1350 @ 0.00027799 = 0.3753 BTC [+] {3} |
01:51 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 900 @ 0.00027799 = 0.2502 BTC [+] {4} |
01:54 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.141 = 2.282 BTC [-] |
01:57 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.13 BTC [-] |
02:02 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [NASTY-PT] 93 @ 0.00122229 = 0.1137 BTC [+] {2} |
02:03 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [NASTY-PT] 100 @ 0.0012 = 0.12 BTC [-] |
02:04 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [NASTY-PT] 107 @ 0.00116 = 0.1241 BTC [-] |
02:05 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.0366 = 0.366 BTC [-] |
02:06 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 10 @ 0.11999999 = 1.2 BTC [-] {2} |
02:06 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 800 @ 0.00027799 = 0.2224 BTC [+] {2} |
02:07 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 400 @ 0.00028358 = 0.1134 BTC [+] {5} |
02:14 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 534 @ 0.0029 = 1.5486 BTC [-] {3} |
02:15 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 410 @ 0.0029 = 1.189 BTC [-] |
02:19 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 26 @ 1.25746153 = 32.694 BTC [+] {4} |
02:27 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 31892 @ 0.00015272 = 4.8705 BTC [-] {5} |
02:42 |
mircea_popescu |
http://gizmodo.com/does-political-belief-make-you-suck-at-math-1440010845 |
02:42 |
mircea_popescu |
basically, it does. |
02:52 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00085412 = 1.452 BTC [+] |
02:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4986 @ 0.00084993 = 4.2378 BTC [-] {2} |
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~ 17 minutes ~ |
03:13 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 8069 @ 0.00014168 = 1.1432 BTC [-] {8} |
03:17 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 500 @ 0.00028844 = 0.1442 BTC [+] |
03:18 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 500 @ 0.00028844 = 0.1442 BTC [+] |
| |
~ 15 minutes ~ |
03:33 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 0.11 = 0.33 BTC [-] |
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~ 34 minutes ~ |
04:08 |
Vexual |
good day gents |
04:14 |
phish |
.d |
04:14 |
ozbot |
148819199.80509 | Next Diff in 42 blocks | Estimated Change: 27.4550% in 0d 4h 58m 59s |
04:21 |
phish |
;;genrate 30000 |
04:21 |
gribble |
The expected generation output, at 30000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 148819199.805, is 0.101379361754 BTC per day and 0.00422414007307 BTC per hour. |
04:21 |
mircea_popescu |
heya. |
04:23 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5773 @ 0.00084887 = 4.9005 BTC [-] |
04:26 |
Vexual |
How are you MP? |
04:27 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 9 @ 0.01189999 = 0.1071 BTC [+] |
04:34 |
mircea_popescu |
great. |
04:39 |
Vexual |
That is good to hear, I am having a quiet evening watching a sliver of the moon sitting on a beautiful sunset. It feels as though everything is right in the world. |
04:54 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 250 @ 0.00121157 = 0.3029 BTC [-] {4} |
04:58 |
Vexual |
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-09-18/science/42182028_1_sunspots-maunder-minimum-solar-cycle |
04:58 |
ozbot |
Solar activity drops to 100-year low, puzzling scientists - Times Of India |
05:03 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 35505 @ 0.00013024 = 4.6242 BTC [-] {10} |
05:10 |
mircea_popescu |
its man made. |
05:10 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 822 @ 0.0001226 = 0.1008 BTC [-] |
05:11 |
Vexual |
indeed, 10,000 year model is no good with the cosmos |
05:11 |
mircea_popescu |
esp when it's a 55 year model extrapolated through the use of purpose-tailored math. |
05:15 |
Vexual |
dont get met started on the misuse of orbital telescopes |
05:15 |
mircea_popescu |
:p |
05:18 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9VQye6P8k0 |
05:18 |
ozbot |
Patience - YouTube |
05:22 |
mircea_popescu |
this has got to be the best google translate ever : http://postimg.org/image/4dyqw79x3/ |
05:23 |
Vexual |
savage |
| |
~ 35 minutes ~ |
05:58 |
jurov |
http://i.imgur.com/4nsBBpq.jpg just a morning wo..er wisdom |
06:00 |
b0n1 |
are the passwords of bitcointalk salted? If so, were the hackers able to read out the salted random numbers? |
06:04 |
mircea_popescu |
The whole enterprise of counting publications as a means to evaluating research excellence is pernicious and completely absurd. If a 12 year-old were to write 'I fink that Enid Blyton iz bettern than that Emily Bronte bint cos she has written loads more books' then one could reasonably excuse the spelling as reflective of the stupidity of the mind that produced the content. What we now have in academia is a situation |
06:04 |
mircea_popescu |
where intelligent men and women prostitute themselves to an ideal which no intelligent person could believe. |
06:05 |
mircea_popescu |
b0n1 as far as anyone knows they were not salted but put through 7500 iterations of whatever goop. |
06:12 |
pankkake |
that's pretty much what all scientists say - or maybe I have biais on those I know |
06:12 |
pankkake |
and yet, it goes on |
06:14 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.002979 = 0.1192 BTC [+] {2} |
06:16 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmeTAWyXx00 |
06:16 |
ozbot |
Bob Marley Babylon System Demo 1979 - YouTube |
06:20 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5978 @ 0.00012292 = 0.7348 BTC [-] {3} |
06:22 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 13000 @ 0.0001227 = 1.5951 BTC [-] {2} |
06:22 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 90 @ 0.0098 = 0.882 BTC [-] |
06:33 |
Vexual |
a funny thing i have noticed about university et al, is that professors will get students to write and submit papers that for the basis of what they want to say later |
06:33 |
Vexual |
*form |
06:34 |
Vexual |
form over substance |
06:34 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 40 @ 0.00812 = 0.3248 BTC [-] |
06:34 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.0816 = 0.2448 BTC [+] |
06:36 |
Vexual |
it can be called gruntwork, but when someone else is pulling the strings... |
06:36 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 3 @ 0.1346 = 0.4038 BTC [+] |
06:39 |
jurov |
;;bc,stats |
06:39 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 262051 | Current Difficulty: 1.4881919980509263E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 262079 | Next Difficulty In: 28 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 hours, 6 minutes, and 39 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 189402885.915 | Estimated Percent Change: 27.27046 |
06:40 |
jurov |
lol it's going to be 30% again? |
06:40 |
pankkake |
and this despite the many ddoes |
06:41 |
Vexual |
theres some facinating data mining going on in neroscience that throws the convention oh "hypothesis" out the window |
06:47 |
Vexual |
imaging crazy brains is cool science |
06:49 |
Vexual |
and when those wizards release their tools to the genetecists, boom, info 2.0 |
06:57 |
Vexual |
psychiatry, where philospohy meets science |
07:00 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 52 @ 0.01 = 0.52 BTC [-] |
07:00 |
Vexual |
datamining with obscure data. dem patents |
07:01 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 26 @ 0.008002 = 0.2081 BTC [-] |
07:03 |
Vexual |
its a pity how all the good shit is fully funded |
07:07 |
jurov |
http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1nt0k3/what_is_something_youve_seen_that_no_one_will/cclqu68 the shit i'm reading sometimes |
07:08 |
jurov |
i should stop |
07:08 |
Vexual |
is america still a thing? |
07:09 |
jurov |
it's a hypothesis |
07:10 |
Vexual |
its people and acres and a spirit of innovation |
07:10 |
jurov |
and bald eagles |
07:10 |
Vexual |
but theyre all mental |
07:12 |
Vexual |
weve got fucking wedge tailed eagles which are way more boss, and would beast a bald eagle in any competition imaginable except baldness, and we just go about our business and don't parade our awesome eagles much very oft at all |
07:13 |
pankkake |
"Now, I I only had a government..." |
07:13 |
pankkake |
http://www.reddit.com/r/MURICA/ is fun |
07:13 |
ozbot |
'MURICA FUCK YEAH! |
07:14 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [-] |
07:25 |
Vexual |
australia is best ralia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fXO0CDSZT0 |
07:37 |
Vexual |
also mining lease fees ahvent changed for 100 years, and we got rocks |
07:39 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 7800 @ 0.00014788 = 1.1535 BTC [+] {4} |
07:39 |
Vexual |
kennilworth investors bought the operators a landcruiser and some salaries |
07:40 |
Vexual |
the magnetic imaging was done,it was double talk and paper pushing |
07:41 |
Vexual |
real miners never own the land where the lease is |
07:42 |
Vexual |
unless it wasnt owned before |
07:46 |
Vexual |
mining warden is nearly as boss as queen here |
07:52 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0029 = 0.29 BTC [-] |
07:55 |
Vexual |
goes like this |
07:56 |
Vexual |
applicant: i want 100 hectares as bordered by hese coordinates |
07:56 |
pankkake |
so kenilworthnothing is a scam? |
07:57 |
Vexual |
warden: are the borders runnung north south and east west and do you have the $374 and the approprate form |
07:57 |
Vexual |
applicant: yes |
07:57 |
Vexual |
warden: will you attempt to mine the and in your lifetime? |
07:57 |
Vexual |
applicant: yes |
07:57 |
Vexual |
warden: the court accepts the license |
07:58 |
Vexual |
pankkake, how much money did they get? |
07:59 |
pankkake |
I don't know, didn't follow it much |
07:59 |
Vexual |
i dont think its a scam by australian standards, but i'm guessing if they wanted they could chase burnside for more money |
08:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share |
08:00 |
Vexual |
are they listed on the asx too? its well dodgy |
08:02 |
Vexual |
its about what one would expect with a speculative mining lease multiplied by bitcoin 2013 |
08:04 |
Vexual |
and i'd say if the ira was a bother to uncle sam, their names might ring bells with prism |
08:05 |
Vexual |
but weve got more war criminals and psycopaths per capita than south amrica, so who cares |
08:06 |
Vexual |
freedom fighters, whatever your fancy |
08:09 |
pankkake |
I have a hard time understanding your points |
08:10 |
Vexual |
the world isnt big enough for speculative leaseholders anymore |
08:10 |
Vexual |
what you want is smart dudes, on the ground, mining in cheap labour countries |
08:10 |
Vexual |
gold in the philippines and africa |
08:11 |
Vexual |
people skills |
08:12 |
Vexual |
not buying diggers incase the land is profitable |
08:13 |
Vexual |
coz when the go bankrupt, they keep the diggers in the shed until after the creditors are paid, and noone stops them |
08:14 |
Vexual |
its the third oldest trick in the book, after selling your cooch and "get em hooked and jack up the price" |
08:15 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 516 @ 0.0029 = 1.4964 BTC [-] |
08:16 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 37 @ 0.00285003 = 0.1055 BTC [-] |
08:17 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.25 = 3.75 BTC [-] {3} |
08:22 |
Vexual |
kenilworth is a mining lease taken out on a family farm with no intention of ever mining or allowing it to be mined, if there's even anything there |
08:24 |
Vexual |
new landcruiser. |
08:25 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 10 @ 0.08 = 0.8 BTC [-] |
08:32 |
Vexual |
im gonna have to get a gun like mp if i keep talking shit on the internet |
08:33 |
Vexual |
i imagine he had a german made 45 pistol |
08:33 |
Vexual |
the kind of thing that stops a conversation abruptly |
08:39 |
Vexual |
i imagine one can be a gentleman and own a gun in romania, but i might be wrong |
08:42 |
Vexual |
manila, now there you buy a $10 license and its cod machine pistols |
08:44 |
Vexual |
is just that little bit right of guam you know |
08:48 |
Vexual |
pankkake was it you talking of laying new sea cables the other day? |
08:48 |
pankkake |
no |
08:48 |
Vexual |
oh |
08:53 |
Vexual |
are you asian? |
08:54 |
Vexual |
coz asia is the place to lay cable |
08:56 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.0120685 = 0.6034 BTC [+] {4} |
08:56 |
Vexual |
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/71/Lower_NTK_Estate_old_squat_toilet.jpg |
08:56 |
Vexual |
goat |
08:59 |
Vexual |
coming soon to the crime section of bankok international airbort bookshop |
09:00 |
Vexual |
how dpr1.0 framed dpr2.0 for his own murder |
09:01 |
Vexual |
everyone gets off and they take more acid |
09:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 136 @ 0.001244 = 0.1692 BTC [-] |
09:02 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lTAT0dZMRw |
09:02 |
ozbot |
Scott McKenzie - San Francisco REMIX - YouTube |
09:03 |
phish |
.d |
09:03 |
ozbot |
148819199.80509 | Next Diff in 13 blocks | Estimated Change: 26.9513% in 0d 1h 30m 32s |
09:04 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 1.26 = 13.86 BTC [+] |
09:05 |
Vexual |
cexio 2002 |
09:06 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.263 BTC [+] |
09:18 |
Vexual |
no riddles today, theres a solar storm coming in three days |
09:19 |
Vexual |
id bitbet it, but it would be immoral |
09:23 |
Vexual |
yes i mean a coronal ejection from the sun |
09:24 |
Vexual |
quantify the magnitude you say? |
09:25 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1308 @ 0.00125214 = 1.6378 BTC [+] {6} |
09:26 |
Vexual |
i say print out your bitcoin wallets just in case |
09:32 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 68 @ 0.01206999 = 0.8208 BTC [+] |
09:33 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 405 @ 0.01214887 = 4.9203 BTC [+] {3} |
09:38 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnBi-LNM0Og |
09:38 |
ozbot |
Happy Mondays - Step On - YouTube |
09:42 |
jurov |
http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-payment-protocol-makeover/ - plan to establish bitcoin certificate authorities |
09:43 |
jurov |
But concerns over certificate security irritate Hearn. “The reality is that [certificate technology] is the best we’ve got, it’s being improved via initiatives like cert transparency, and it has a track record of stopping worst case adversaries.” |
09:44 |
Vexual |
i want afuckin refund |
09:44 |
jurov |
not a single word who shall manage the root certificate |
09:45 |
jurov |
Vexual: sorry to break your happy mood |
09:45 |
Vexual |
ya cant |
09:49 |
jurov |
oh it's prolly meant to build on existing SSL CA infrastructure?... god save us |
09:49 |
Vexual |
seems like bitcoin devs are going beyond what is required of the blockchain |
09:50 |
jurov |
oh, they do it since satoshi left. except when they have to fix the breakage. |
09:51 |
Vexual |
but we dont have to bip |
09:51 |
Vexual |
satoshi left ike dpr1.0 |
09:52 |
Vexual |
except satoshi didnt keep getting a paycheck |
09:52 |
Vexual |
hey i made a disruptive thing, im audi |
09:54 |
jurov |
you mean like we "don't have to" buy a recognized ssl certificate? |
09:55 |
jurov |
i can see where this is supposed to go... to provide "SSL-secured(r)(tm) bitcoin deposit address" |
09:55 |
jurov |
you'll have to pay CA scammers for ssl cert? |
09:55 |
Vexual |
dont make me say it |
09:56 |
jurov |
cause, how else will the poor customer be sure the address is really yours? |
09:56 |
Vexual |
read |
09:56 |
jurov |
makes me sick... hopefully this won't fly |
09:57 |
Vexual |
it will, you dont need to use it |
09:58 |
jurov |
me not. but what if i get inquiries like "but my wallet says coinbr deposit address is untrusted!!!"? |
09:58 |
Vexual |
:) |
10:00 |
Vexual |
relax |
10:00 |
pankkake |
bitcoin developers using broken CA system when they have… namecoin |
10:01 |
Vexual |
ill grant you its more kinds or irony than a trilemma post, but just like them, don't lose no sleep |
10:01 |
jurov |
pankkake: this. or the addy can be verified in distributed manner by other my customers gpg signing it |
10:03 |
jurov |
heck, or even btc-signing it |
10:05 |
Vexual |
my handspan exceeds my inet nippular siastance |
10:05 |
Vexual |
*inter |
10:05 |
Vexual |
*distance |
10:06 |
jurov |
and what does it mean? heightened testosterone? |
10:06 |
Vexual |
marfans? |
10:08 |
jurov |
kleptomania? |
10:10 |
Vexual |
no |
10:11 |
Vexual |
i just like vectors |
10:11 |
Vexual |
where do you live jurov? |
10:12 |
Vexual |
i like to work out the geographical crow flight half way point |
10:13 |
Vexual |
ill also just get your mothers maiden name for your star chart |
10:14 |
jurov |
wait, they use what now in star charts? |
10:14 |
Vexual |
penis size? |
10:15 |
Vexual |
its just for the chart |
10:15 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 84 @ 0.001221 = 0.1026 BTC [-] |
10:15 |
jurov |
and i did tell where i live several times already, do your research |
10:16 |
Vexual |
did you? |
10:16 |
Vexual |
ddid i? |
10:16 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 8 @ 0.4625 = 3.7 BTC [+] |
10:16 |
Vexual |
i actually am interested in halfway |
10:16 |
Vexual |
unlike your mother or your penis |
10:17 |
Vexual |
as a bonus you get to knpow the direction to avoid |
10:18 |
jurov |
as a result of half-assed research? |
10:18 |
jurov |
if, then i want full-assed one |
10:19 |
Vexual |
well im gessing its somewhere in the middle of the pacific' |
10:20 |
Vexual |
see how i dropped the u? |
10:20 |
jurov |
no idon't want to see what ur doing with the keyboard |
10:21 |
Vexual |
i always eat the extra enter key |
10:22 |
VanCleef |
vexual pinoy ka ba? |
10:22 |
VanCleef |
muzta? |
10:22 |
Vexual |
shabbadabba |
10:22 |
VanCleef |
siiiiige |
10:22 |
Vexual |
yeah i dont know what that is |
10:23 |
Vexual |
where are u vancleef? holland? |
10:23 |
VanCleef |
brazil |
10:23 |
jurov |
i didn't considered human tallow there edible |
10:23 |
jurov |
*consider |
10:24 |
Vexual |
human tallow? fork man |
10:24 |
Vexual |
are u dutch vancleef? |
10:24 |
jurov |
on the other enter key |
10:24 |
Vexual |
our halfway is pacific ocean |
10:24 |
VanCleef |
i'm not a filthy dutchmen |
10:25 |
Vexual |
why so van? |
10:25 |
VanCleef |
because i use soap |
10:26 |
Vexual |
to the root? |
10:26 |
VanCleef |
i dont believe in your magic |
10:26 |
Vexual |
i dont undertsnad the connection |
10:26 |
jurov |
i think our halfway is the atlantic then |
10:28 |
Vexual |
wise |
10:28 |
Diablo-D3 |
;;ticker |
10:28 |
gribble |
MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 135.01509, Best ask: 135.49499, Bid-ask spread: 0.47990, Last trade: 135.00505, 24 hour volume: 3673.53219031, 24 hour low: 135.00505, 24 hour high: 138.00000, 24 hour vwap: 136.56759 |
10:30 |
Vexual |
vancannibal, our halfway could be mauritius if we went the ,ong way |
10:33 |
Vexual |
sau paulo |
10:36 |
Vexual |
your dad made a machine |
10:40 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 7574 @ 0.00013347 = 1.0109 BTC [-] {6} |
10:42 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 10 @ 0.0124 = 0.124 BTC [+] |
10:44 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.12 BTC [+] |
10:47 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 7574 @ 0.0001304 = 0.9876 BTC [-] {2} |
10:47 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 1.2889 = 3.8667 BTC [+] {2} |
10:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00084843 = 2.9695 BTC [-] {2} |
10:59 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 20 @ 0.0082 = 0.164 BTC [+] |
11:00 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 80610 @ 0.00012366 = 9.9682 BTC [-] {6} |
11:00 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1116 @ 0.00129789 = 1.4484 BTC [+] {2} |
11:02 |
Vexual |
http://ethno.ihp.sinica.edu.tw/en/southwest/imgs/WA/WA_07-06.jpg |
11:03 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 180 @ 0.0082 = 1.476 BTC [+] |
11:08 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfS5tgNC6qw |
11:08 |
ozbot |
BULLET STUNT KAMMO TAKHAR - YouTube |
11:13 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.29000001 = 2.58 BTC [+] |
11:14 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 6450 @ 0.0001517 = 0.9785 BTC [+] {3} |
11:14 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 1.3 = 3.9 BTC [+] {2} |
11:16 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.29000001 = 2.58 BTC [-] |
11:22 |
Vexual |
there was a storm on the 3rd, i might be wrong |
11:22 |
Vexual |
fuck it, let it ride |
11:22 |
Vexual |
10/10/13 |
11:37 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.28 BTC [-] |
11:41 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 29 @ 0.01256896 = 0.3645 BTC [+] {3} |
11:42 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 256 @ 0.00066004 = 0.169 BTC [-] {3} |
11:43 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 212 @ 0.00065094 = 0.138 BTC [-] {2} |
11:49 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.266 BTC [+] |
11:52 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 5 @ 0.08 = 0.4 BTC [-] |
11:53 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.298875 = 10.391 BTC [+] {2} |
12:00 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 1.299 = 16.887 BTC [+] |
12:02 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 8 @ 0.04197 = 0.3358 BTC [+] |
12:07 |
Jere_Jones |
ThickAsThieves: Your presence is requested in #asicminer |
12:20 |
mircea_popescu |
any competition imaginable except baldness << lmao |
12:24 |
mircea_popescu |
<pankkake> so kenilworthnothing is a scam? << it's an amazing business minus the amazing and the business part. |
12:24 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
12:24 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
12:26 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov that dude is retarded jesus. |
12:27 |
jurov |
who? vexual? |
12:28 |
mircea_popescu |
no hearn & co. |
12:28 |
mircea_popescu |
"certificates are shit but nevertheless i don't understand anything and really want to matter so here's my authoritative opinion on shit i really have no business discussing |
12:29 |
mircea_popescu |
please pay attention to me because i hjave a proven track record of having accidentally forked the chain and i really suck at coding" |
12:32 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, forget about power rangers. here : The programmers wife tells him: Run to the store and pick up a loaf of bread. If they have eggs, get a dozen.. He comes back with 12 loaves of bread. |
12:33 |
VanCleef |
< mircea_popescu> H<HpankkakeH>H so kenilworthnothing is a scam? << it's an amazing business minus the |
12:33 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
12:33 |
VanCleef |
amazing and the business part. - lol |
12:33 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
12:35 |
mod6 |
;;bc,stats |
12:35 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 262097 | Current Difficulty: 1.8928124928103292E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 264095 | Next Difficulty In: 1998 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 16 hours, 46 minutes, and 36 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 326660200.57 | Estimated Percent Change: 72.57927 |
12:37 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: "I gave the fool an ax, so he would bring some twigs; so to the mosque he ran, and smashed the door to sticks." |
12:37 |
asciilifeform |
(impromptu hack of a translation from russian, originally of a persian rhyme, that i read as a kid.) |
12:38 |
asciilifeform |
(re: programmer & his bread.) |
12:40 |
mircea_popescu |
:p |
12:40 |
mircea_popescu |
about the ddoses : i suspect bitcoin mining will fundamentally change the way internet adressing works. |
12:41 |
mircea_popescu |
the problem is that even if you aren't trying to do a 50% attack, it is now more lucrative to ddos someone than to increase your mining farm. |
12:41 |
mircea_popescu |
if you hold 10% of hashpower and another dork holds 10% of hashpower, you can either spend mns of dollars to add another 1% to your hashing or to knock him offline |
12:41 |
mircea_popescu |
never before has it actually been millions of dollars in cash for ddosing a target. |
12:42 |
asciilifeform |
knocking the competing miner offline helps all of the survivors, not just you, though |
12:42 |
mircea_popescu |
and quite frankly nothing else happening on the internet today matters by comparison, so it'll have to change. |
12:42 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform yeah. which is why you can probably just start it and they'll pile in. |
12:42 |
mircea_popescu |
becomes very much lord of the flies. |
12:43 |
asciilifeform |
when rats in a box, they eat each other, the last one dies of its wounds, and the box will eventually contain something else. |
12:45 |
mircea_popescu |
exactly. |
12:45 |
mircea_popescu |
this is much more of a problem for the future than anything the retardevs are fiddling with. |
12:46 |
asciilifeform |
the sad part is that this isn't even a hard problem. |
12:46 |
mircea_popescu |
im not so sure. |
12:48 |
asciilifeform |
trivial solution: a kind of reverse mining pool, where people are paid small btc continuously to run single-purpose proxies |
12:49 |
asciilifeform |
that makes your mega-asic-cluster look like a mining botnet |
12:49 |
asciilifeform |
nothing to ddos |
12:50 |
asciilifeform |
or, more intelligently, solo mining distributed over multiple independent proper btc nodes. |
12:51 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1343 @ 0.001221 = 1.6398 BTC [-] |
12:55 |
KRS1 |
wouldnt that make it more robust and less prone to failure |
12:55 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 212 @ 0.0082 = 1.7384 BTC [+] |
12:58 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [RSM] 124 @ 0.0025 = 0.31 BTC [-] |
12:59 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [RSM] 164 @ 0.002501 = 0.4102 BTC [+] |
12:59 |
mircea_popescu |
the latter would be the ideal solution. |
12:59 |
mircea_popescu |
my secret hope is that THIS is what will end up resolving the "not paid to convey tx" problem |
12:59 |
mircea_popescu |
you will be paid, by the miners who don't want to be ddos'd to shit. |
13:00 |
mircea_popescu |
if that indeed is how the chips fall i'll be quite impressed with satoshi's genius, for originally i thought the node pauyment problem was oversight. |
13:02 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 18000 @ 0.00016296 = 2.9333 BTC [+] {6} |
13:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 115 @ 0.01255 = 1.4433 BTC [-] {2} |
13:03 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2000 @ 0.0001749 = 0.3498 BTC [+] |
13:06 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 4832 @ 0.000175 = 0.8456 BTC [+] |
13:06 |
kakobrekla |
fuckin microtik, pressed the wrong button, lost an hour of life. |
13:07 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2000 @ 0.0001787 = 0.3574 BTC [+] |
13:08 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2458 @ 0.0001788 = 0.4395 BTC [+] |
13:08 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla same thing happened to me earlier. |
13:09 |
mircea_popescu |
was fondling this chick, accidentally touched the button, one hour later i was back on my feet. |
13:09 |
kakobrekla |
:p |
13:09 |
pankkake |
I'm not sure I understand this analogy |
13:10 |
pankkake |
also, microtik does not respect your freedoms |
13:10 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.urbit.org/2013/09/26/palaz.html < loller. |
13:10 |
ozbot |
Urbit - Tea at the Palaz of Hoon |
13:11 |
jurov |
what? and bitches do respect? |
13:12 |
mircea_popescu |
totally. |
13:12 |
jurov |
mircea i read that yest, had brain meltdown, filed it for later |
13:12 |
mircea_popescu |
if they don't it's the little room for them. |
13:12 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov for the record, i'm not pushing it, asciilifeform is pushing it. imo the guy's walking around with shoes too large for his feet. but anyway. |
13:14 |
jurov |
yea i know it's originally from him.. and i understood so far he sems to intend to implement some |
13:14 |
jurov |
insanely simplified functional language |
13:14 |
jurov |
in , say, 500 transistors |
13:14 |
jurov |
and thus make provably correct hardware |
13:15 |
mircea_popescu |
basically, let's take all the reason people don't use forth and add mud. |
13:16 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 10001 @ 0.0001787 = 1.7872 BTC [-] {2} |
13:18 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.01250002 = 0.3125 BTC [-] |
13:19 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 78 @ 0.01250001 = 0.975 BTC [-] {2} |
13:24 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 477 @ 0.01250041 = 5.9627 BTC [+] {2} |
13:26 |
mod6 |
this urbit thing is neato |
13:31 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 63 @ 0.01288959 = 0.812 BTC [+] {4} |
| |
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13:51 |
nubbins` |
hi |
13:51 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 52 @ 0.01289999 = 0.6708 BTC [+] |
13:53 |
nubbins` |
mircea_popescu: i've got a list of magistrate judges that were serving in 1993, but your blog thinks i'm a robot. |
13:53 |
mircea_popescu |
heya! |
13:54 |
mircea_popescu |
you need to give it a few seconds after you load a page, otherwise if you just paste shit in |
13:54 |
mircea_popescu |
it will spit |
13:57 |
nubbins` |
hmm, been on the page for a good 10 minutes now |
13:58 |
nubbins` |
n/m, there we go |
13:58 |
nubbins` |
there were apparently only 46 magistrage judges in 1993 |
14:00 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` 46 ? |
14:00 |
mircea_popescu |
no fucking way ?! |
14:00 |
nubbins` |
i know, that's not even one per state |
14:00 |
nubbins` |
and new jersey had like 5 |
14:00 |
mircea_popescu |
hmmmm |
14:00 |
nubbins` |
i guess there are other types of judges besides magistrate judges |
14:00 |
mircea_popescu |
you know magistrature is relatively recent ... |
14:00 |
mircea_popescu |
well yes, district judges. |
14:00 |
mircea_popescu |
holy shit no fucking way 46 ?! |
14:01 |
nubbins` |
yep |
14:01 |
nubbins` |
http://www.fjc.gov/history/export/jb.txt |
14:01 |
nubbins` |
CSV dump |
14:01 |
nubbins` |
"Bankruptcy and Magistrate service" is the final column |
14:01 |
mircea_popescu |
The directory includes the biographies of judges presidentially appointed during good behavior who have served since 1789 on the U.S. District Courts, the U.S. Courts of Appeals, the Supreme Court of the United States, the former U.S. Circuit Courts, and the federal judiciary's courts of special jurisdiction. |
14:01 |
mircea_popescu |
it's the presidentially appointed |
14:01 |
mircea_popescu |
i thought they get appointed by the court itself |
14:01 |
nubbins` |
a ton of them got appointed by clinton in late oct 1993 |
14:02 |
mircea_popescu |
hmmm |
14:02 |
mircea_popescu |
you know you might be right even. |
14:03 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 48 @ 0.03766228 = 1.8078 BTC [-] {5} |
14:04 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5000 @ 0.00013013 = 0.6507 BTC [-] {3} |
14:04 |
nubbins` |
anyway, i probably precluded myself from any of that bounty by posting that info so early |
14:04 |
mircea_popescu |
why ? |
14:04 |
nubbins` |
well, i just saved someone a bunch of work |
14:05 |
mircea_popescu |
still gets allocated to you |
14:05 |
nubbins` |
o |
14:05 |
nubbins` |
anyway, fun task |
14:06 |
nubbins` |
#2 is a LOT more work |
14:06 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah. |
14:08 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 1.335 = 4.005 BTC [+] |
14:10 |
Namworld |
[14:04] <@assbot> [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5000 @ 0.00013013 = 0.6507 BTC [-] {3} |
14:10 |
Namworld |
lol |
14:11 |
Namworld |
1 month to fall to 1/30th of price |
14:13 |
mircea_popescu |
but what a month. |
14:14 |
kakobrekla |
!t bt labcoin |
14:14 |
assbot |
[BTCT:LABCOIN] 1D: 0.0001226 / 0.00017 / 0.0002495 (591825 shares, 101.2 BTC), 7D: 0.0001226 / 0.00024 / 0.0004 (3022640 shares, 713.3 BTC), 30D: 0.0001226 / 0.00149 / 0.003989 (16872541 shares, 25162.5 BTC) |
14:22 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 60 @ 0.005011 = 0.3007 BTC [-] |
14:23 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.33899999 BTC [+] |
14:25 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.251 = 3.753 BTC [-] |
14:26 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 502 @ 0.00129843 = 0.6518 BTC [+] {4} |
14:28 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.3 = 2.6 BTC [-] |
14:30 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 700 @ 0.01341969 = 9.3938 BTC [+] {7} |
14:30 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4865 @ 0.00028845 = 1.4033 BTC [+] |
14:43 |
mircea_popescu |
mod6 http://trilema.com/2013/so-this-urbit-thing/ might interest you then |
14:45 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 3 @ 0.51 = 1.53 BTC [+] |
14:51 |
mod6 |
I just saw that. :) |
14:51 |
mod6 |
This thing is pretty neat, might take me some time to learn hoon tho. |
14:52 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 26 @ 0.005012 = 0.1303 BTC [+] |
14:52 |
KRS1 |
oh cool complimentary trilema articles |
14:53 |
mod6 |
I don't wanna get too far off course just yet. Gotta wrap up this current bitotter work and get further along with my look into cramer-shoup |
14:55 |
mod6 |
i kinda think the idea of the urbit ship being virtual real estate. Can only be transfered 9 times before it has no value. |
14:56 |
nubbins` |
"And then for each of these individually compile a record showing all their rulings, orders and decisions which in any way touched upon individual rights of privacy, broadly construed so as to include anything relating to the production of communications of private persons in any written form, limited to an adversarial proceeding in which the US Government, or any agency or representative thereof w |
14:56 |
nubbins` |
party, with proper case reference by number and where available link to published court proceedings" |
14:56 |
nubbins` |
^^^ is this restricted to the period of time when they were a magistrate judge? |
14:56 |
benkay_ |
mod6 it's not a permanent thing |
14:56 |
mod6 |
Strange. Yet, kinda cool at first look here. I'll play with it a bit. |
14:56 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.3 = 5.2 BTC [+] |
14:57 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` yup |
14:58 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 1.23205 = 24.641 BTC [-] {3} |
14:58 |
nubbins` |
ok, great |
14:58 |
mircea_popescu |
obviously if they become a senator it's moot |
14:58 |
nubbins` |
yeah |
14:58 |
nubbins` |
this is going to be a very small list |
14:58 |
nubbins` |
to my surprise |
14:59 |
nubbins` |
well, wait now |
14:59 |
nubbins` |
i mean, some of these judges are still judges |
14:59 |
nubbins` |
just not magistrate judges |
14:59 |
mircea_popescu |
hm ? |
14:59 |
nubbins` |
for example, Africk has issued privacy rulings in 2005 and 2013, but was only a magistrate judge from 1990-2002 |
15:00 |
mircea_popescu |
well as long as he still issued rulings, you wan them |
15:00 |
nubbins` |
sure |
15:01 |
mircea_popescu |
how do you establish he's only issued so in 2005 and 2013 ? |
15:04 |
nubbins` |
searched records from us gov printing office |
15:05 |
nubbins` |
to be fair, i used the word "privacy" as a search qualifier, so i may have missed privacy-related rulings that did not use the word "privacy" |
15:05 |
mircea_popescu |
indeed. |
15:05 |
nubbins` |
but i suspect that the number of said rulings would be vanishingly small |
15:05 |
mircea_popescu |
broadly construed so as to include anything relating to the production of communications of private persons in any written for |
15:06 |
mircea_popescu |
i don't think there's any way to avoid going through his caselist |
15:06 |
mircea_popescu |
you can sort to exclude cases where govt is not a party, and maybe cases where no persons are parties, |
15:06 |
nubbins` |
yeah, that removed most of the chaff |
15:06 |
mircea_popescu |
but otherwise you kinda have to skim the complaints |
15:07 |
nubbins` |
can a court visit the issue of privacy without using the word, though? |
15:08 |
nubbins` |
i mean, they can talk all they want about communications in any written form, but unless the word "privacy" or "private" comes up, they're not really discussing privacy, are they? |
15:12 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.01304204 = 0.6521 BTC [-] {4} |
15:14 |
mircea_popescu |
yes they are. |
15:14 |
mircea_popescu |
if Joe is ordered to produce the letter Moe sent him during discovery of Jane's divorce, |
15:14 |
mircea_popescu |
this qualifies. |
15:14 |
mircea_popescu |
arguably the part where privacy is touched upon without being specifically said so is more important than the other. |
15:16 |
nubbins` |
arguably i could exclude all such cases and still win a fat bounty if nobody produces evidence that i left out any rulings |
15:16 |
mircea_popescu |
arguably. |
15:16 |
nubbins` |
that's probably what i'm going to do, fyi |
15:17 |
mircea_popescu |
well, free market of bitcoin. |
15:17 |
mircea_popescu |
it's how mining works too. |
15:17 |
nubbins` |
wait, mining works? |
15:17 |
nubbins` |
lel, &c |
15:17 |
mircea_popescu |
;;estimate |
15:17 |
gribble |
Next difficulty estimate | 280954568.202 based on data since last change | 212713646.91 based on data for last three days |
15:17 |
mircea_popescu |
holy shit!? |
15:18 |
nubbins` |
yeah, lots of sad pandas with usb block erupters today |
15:18 |
nubbins` |
not just today, of course |
15:18 |
mircea_popescu |
lol pity the forum isn't up so i could forcefeed everyone -pr's buffett quote |
15:19 |
nubbins` |
take consolation in the fact that they're quietly worrying while hitting F5 on /r/bitcoin |
15:20 |
nubbins` |
now, if you'll excuse me, i'm told there is a cat in my bed that i must go bother |
15:20 |
mircea_popescu |
bother all the cats. |
15:22 |
saulimus |
is there a precise time announced when btct will disable trading? |
15:25 |
dub |
does anyone give a fuck? |
15:27 |
KRS1 |
hmm |
15:27 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 156 @ 0.001221 = 0.1905 BTC [-] |
15:28 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.0414 = 0.1656 BTC [+] {2} |
15:34 |
kakobrekla |
yes, a negative fuck. |
15:35 |
mod6 |
don't destroy the universe! |
15:36 |
kakobrekla |
:) |
15:39 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.22 BTC [-] |
15:41 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.0131 = 0.393 BTC [-] {2} |
15:42 |
mircea_popescu |
you can't unscrew a pregnant lightbulb. |
15:43 |
kakobrekla |
18:40.43 ( mircea_popescu ) about the ddoses : i suspect bitcoin mining will fundamentally change the way internet adressing works. |
15:43 |
kakobrekla |
doesnt p2pool solve this already? |
15:43 |
mircea_popescu |
not large enough yet i don't think, and has other problems |
15:43 |
mircea_popescu |
(does it work with mm yet ?) |
15:44 |
kakobrekla |
i dont think mm is an issue |
15:45 |
KRS1 |
thats pretty deep |
15:46 |
kakobrekla |
apparently mm already works with p2pool |
15:46 |
mircea_popescu |
a ok |
15:47 |
mircea_popescu |
then pretty cool, maybe it gets more widely used. |
15:47 |
kakobrekla |
it will if there will be a need for it |
15:54 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.0134 = 0.335 BTC [+] |
15:56 |
Apocalyptic |
<KRS1> thats pretty deep // indeed |
15:57 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0134 = 1.34 BTC [+] |
16:05 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.16 BTC [-] |
16:16 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 12000 @ 0.00016 = 1.92 BTC [+] |
16:20 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.12005 = 0.2401 BTC [+] {2} |
16:26 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.12 = 0.24 BTC [-] |
16:26 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.08107 = 0.2432 BTC [-] {2} |
16:35 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 8 @ 0.01319374 = 0.1055 BTC [+] {3} |
16:43 |
ThickAsThieves |
"Has anyone started a "Yelp" for bitcoin: Exchanges, clients, vendors, and mining hardware?" |
16:43 |
ThickAsThieves |
lol, reddit has gone full reddit |
16:45 |
ThickAsThieves |
it's not enough to tell every bitcoin thing how it should be working, now they will rate how well it does so |
16:48 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.33899 BTC [+] |
16:54 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.33899 = 2.678 BTC [+] |
16:54 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 100 @ 0.0014 = 0.14 BTC [+] |
16:55 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 0.11110001 BTC [-] |
16:55 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 100 @ 0.0012 = 0.12 BTC [-] |
16:56 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 135 @ 0.00114012 = 0.1539 BTC [-] {3} |
16:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1239 @ 0.00028 = 0.3469 BTC [-] |
17:07 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.2 = 2.4 BTC [+] |
17:10 |
dub |
http://terriblerealestateagentphotos.com/ |
17:10 |
ozbot |
Terrible real estate agent photographs |
17:11 |
dub |
having just spent a year or so looking for a house I could have contributed some reat content |
17:13 |
dexX7_ |
http://25.media.tumblr.com/40f72ad800fbc7d885c237420144a71b/tumblr_mu8ys4WzLu1rrqskho1_500.jpg xD |
17:19 |
jurov |
http://31.media.tumblr.com/ce83f6c430336d4551704835f4617b6c/tumblr_msg5kgiXox1rrqskho1_500.jpg i like this vampire one |
17:20 |
jurov |
and horse, too |
17:29 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 1.33899999 = 13.39 BTC [+] {2} |
17:30 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.34 BTC [+] |
17:31 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 598 @ 0.00016799 = 0.1005 BTC [+] {2} |
17:33 |
nubbins` |
man, when i was in the market for a house, i saw some crazy shit |
17:33 |
nubbins` |
one house had a moat cut into the concrete slab in the basement |
17:34 |
nubbins` |
another had a dirt floor |
17:34 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3 BTC [+] |
17:39 |
dub |
I put an offer on one where they'd left grow lights behind in the basement |
17:39 |
dub |
behind an obvious fake wall |
17:42 |
nubbins` |
hahaha |
17:43 |
nubbins` |
yeah, i've seen a few houses with "rooms" in the basement |
17:43 |
nubbins` |
no light fixtures, just hooks in the ceiling and ventilation everywhere |
17:44 |
nubbins` |
i ended up buying the row house with the schizophrenic hooker w/ tourette's next door, so uh, victory nubbins` |
17:49 |
freshcoin |
!hax |
17:50 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 1.34198 = 6.7099 BTC [+] {2} |
17:50 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1000 @ 0.000168 = 0.168 BTC [+] |
17:56 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.31179999 = 6.559 BTC [+] {3} |
17:57 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 14 @ 0.0415 = 0.581 BTC [+] |
18:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 195 @ 0.00287127 = 0.5599 BTC [+] {3} |
18:03 |
jborkl |
Kncminer smoking out |
18:04 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00285104 = 0.1426 BTC [+] |
18:04 |
jborkl |
http://m.imgur.com/2UZuUzH |
18:04 |
ozbot |
imgur: the simple image sharer |
18:04 |
nubbins` |
oof |
18:04 |
kakobrekla |
hardcore |
18:05 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.32 = 3.96 BTC [+] |
18:07 |
kakobrekla |
where is this from jborkl, their lab or shipped miner? |
18:08 |
jborkl |
I think shipped miner, I found it on their forum posted by a regular user |
18:08 |
kakobrekla |
aha |
18:09 |
jborkl |
Ther are two units reported burned from what I can see |
18:10 |
dub |
toasty |
18:10 |
dub |
I just heard alberto is behind labcoin |
18:10 |
jborkl |
http://m.imgur.com/a/hyA3a |
18:10 |
ozbot |
imgur: the simple image sharer |
18:10 |
nubbins` |
alberto european styling gel? |
18:10 |
kakobrekla |
BDT alberto? |
18:10 |
kakobrekla |
you gotta be shitting me |
18:11 |
jborkl |
Who is Alberto? |
18:11 |
nubbins` |
http://www.albertoeuropean.ca/DynamicContent/Stylopedia/images/6739b7d0-d29e-40b4-8ac0-2f5f74a13dad_MainImage.png |
18:11 |
dub |
bitscalper, bit day trade, etc |
18:11 |
kakobrekla |
guys 20k btc iirc |
18:11 |
kakobrekla |
eh |
18:11 |
kakobrekla |
owes |
18:11 |
kakobrekla |
to the guys |
18:12 |
dub |
https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=alberto+armandi |
18:12 |
kakobrekla |
yeah |
18:12 |
kakobrekla |
scammer |
18:15 |
kakobrekla |
>>Alberto Armandi, an ex-boyfriend of Alessia |
18:15 |
kakobrekla |
zomg |
18:15 |
kakobrekla |
http://newsbitcoin.com/?p=14153 |
18:15 |
ozbot |
An overview and update of the Labcoin scam | NewsBitcoin.com |
18:16 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 7161 @ 0.00017036 = 1.2199 BTC [+] {2} |
18:16 |
dexX7_ |
kakobrekla: http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinStocks/comments/1ncdf1/labcoin_outed_as_a_scam/ << summary |
18:16 |
kakobrekla |
i hope two things happen here, |
18:17 |
kakobrekla |
1. people lose as much money as possible |
18:17 |
kakobrekla |
2. AA goes to jail |
18:18 |
dexX7_ |
sounds fair |
18:18 |
kakobrekla |
i know all about AA and his failures, even spoke to him on skype a year or so ago, total retard |
18:18 |
kakobrekla |
i just wasnt sure it was behind labcoin |
18:18 |
kakobrekla |
though i made that joke a while ago |
18:19 |
kakobrekla |
that it would be extra funny if AA is behind it |
18:19 |
dexX7_ |
all that above is speculation though |
18:20 |
dexX7_ |
this is one of the newest clues: (from the frist q&a on aug 8 - still needs confirmation) [11:41:30] * labcoin_dev (~alberto@host173-29-dynamic.49-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) has joined #labcoin |
18:20 |
kakobrekla |
lmao |
18:21 |
kakobrekla |
makes sense |
18:21 |
kakobrekla |
since he cant show his face around anymore |
18:21 |
dexX7_ |
he's most likely in hong kong right now |
18:22 |
kakobrekla |
nothing will come out of it |
18:22 |
kakobrekla |
except he made some coin again |
18:24 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 42 @ 0.01349975 = 0.567 BTC [+] {3} |
18:25 |
kakobrekla |
i see ppl haveing lots of problems running kncminers |
18:26 |
nubbins` |
are they expected to ROI? i seem to recall figuring at one point that people would need them in-hand in september in order to break even |
18:26 |
blastbob1 |
kakobrekla: 34 of 36 boards are working fine :) |
18:26 |
kakobrekla |
so you ordered like 9 of those ? |
18:27 |
blastbob1 |
have 27 in total |
18:27 |
blastbob1 |
got 9 for now |
18:27 |
blastbob1 |
rest should be hashing coming week |
18:27 |
kakobrekla |
not bad |
18:28 |
blastbob1 |
had problem with the recommended 850w choice |
18:28 |
blastbob1 |
first firmware pulls 4.4amps |
18:29 |
blastbob1 |
so it killed the fuse on the PSU |
18:29 |
kakobrekla |
cooling is adequate? |
18:29 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2212 @ 0.0001331 = 0.2944 BTC [-] |
18:29 |
blastbob1 |
yea |
18:29 |
blastbob1 |
DC with good flow |
18:31 |
kakobrekla |
shame you have to have external ugly atx psu |
18:31 |
blastbob1 |
yea, got messy in the racks |
18:32 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.09833333 = 0.295 BTC [+] {3} |
18:32 |
kakobrekla |
got any pics? |
18:33 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 25545 @ 0.00013093 = 3.3446 BTC [-] {7} |
18:33 |
blastbob1 |
http://p2pool.nl/blog/mining-update/ |
18:33 |
ozbot |
Mining update | 2GMTA Blog |
18:35 |
kakobrekla |
a, you are running addiction? |
18:35 |
blastbob1 |
yea Tyrion and me |
18:35 |
kakobrekla |
who is Tyrion |
18:35 |
blastbob1 |
Tyrion70 on btctalk |
18:35 |
kakobrekla |
a i see he is here too, k |
18:37 |
blastbob1 |
yea |
18:37 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [RSM] 99 @ 0.003005 = 0.2975 BTC [-] |
18:39 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 81 @ 0.006212 = 0.5032 BTC [+] |
18:51 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00084229 = 5.6433 BTC [-] {2} |
18:59 |
jurov |
;;bc,stats |
18:59 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 262139 | Current Difficulty: 1.8928124928103292E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 264095 | Next Difficulty In: 1956 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 5 hours, 46 minutes, and 48 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 229942987.596 | Estimated Percent Change: 21.48218 |
19:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 201 @ 0.0006014 = 0.1209 BTC [-] {2} |
19:08 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 138 @ 0.01362767 = 1.8806 BTC [+] {3} |
19:20 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1160 @ 0.0001301 = 0.1509 BTC [-] |
19:24 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 27 @ 0.0138 = 0.3726 BTC [+] |
| |
~ 29 minutes ~ |
19:53 |
phish |
;;genrate 30000 |
19:53 |
gribble |
The expected generation output, at 30000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 189281249.281, is 0.0797078186573 BTC per day and 0.00332115911072 BTC per hour. |
19:53 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.345 = 2.69 BTC [+] |
20:04 |
dub |
;;nethash |
20:04 |
gribble |
1543918.41334 |
20:13 |
Namworld |
uh... Bitfinex still exists? |
20:15 |
Namworld |
astonishing |
20:23 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.275 BTC [-] |
20:28 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 1.37 = 6.85 BTC [+] |
20:29 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.3799 BTC [+] |
20:29 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 12 @ 0.037 = 0.444 BTC [-] {2} |
20:29 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 3 @ 0.1401 = 0.4203 BTC [+] |
20:31 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [FN] [COG.F2] 1 @ 1.5 BTC [+] |
20:34 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 1796 @ 0.00500843 = 8.9951 BTC [-] {7} |
20:36 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 24 @ 1.275 = 30.6 BTC [-] |
| |
~ 27 minutes ~ |
21:03 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00083983 = 5.5849 BTC [-] {2} |
21:17 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 1.38 = 2.76 BTC [+] |
| |
~ 20 minutes ~ |
21:37 |
assbot |
[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.328 = 5.312 BTC [+] {2} |
21:42 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.01310044 = 1.31 BTC [-] {8} |
21:44 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00083846 = 5.8692 BTC [-] |
21:46 |
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[BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [-] |
21:53 |
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[BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 285 @ 0.0800407 = 22.8116 BTC [+] {2} |
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~ 16 minutes ~ |
22:10 |
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[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 93 @ 0.03853763 = 3.584 BTC [+] {2} |
22:14 |
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[BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 2000 @ 0.00500024 = 10.0005 BTC [-] {2} |
22:15 |
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[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.328 BTC [+] |
22:23 |
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[BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 35 @ 0.07977142 = 2.792 BTC [-] {2} |
22:24 |
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[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.3285 = 2.657 BTC [+] {2} |
22:24 |
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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1574 @ 0.00084028 = 1.3226 BTC [+] |
22:25 |
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[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 13 @ 0.00998992 = 0.1299 BTC [+] {2} |
22:33 |
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[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.329 = 2.658 BTC [+] |
22:40 |
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[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 97 @ 0.00999555 = 0.9696 BTC [+] {3} |
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~ 21 minutes ~ |
23:01 |
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[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 17 @ 1.329 = 22.593 BTC [+] |
23:02 |
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[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.333 BTC [+] |
23:12 |
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[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.38 BTC [+] |
23:17 |
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[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20210 @ 0.00013367 = 2.7015 BTC [-] {5} |
23:19 |
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[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 6155 @ 0.00013216 = 0.8134 BTC [-] {2} |
23:26 |
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[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2265 @ 0.000131 = 0.2967 BTC [-] |
23:28 |
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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1915 @ 0.00083846 = 1.6057 BTC [-] |
23:29 |
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[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 76 @ 0.00136 = 0.1034 BTC [+] |
23:31 |
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[BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1831 @ 0.0001307 = 0.2393 BTC [-] |
23:35 |
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[BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 148 @ 0.00123 = 0.182 BTC [-] |
23:47 |
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[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.36010004 = 0.7202 BTC [+] {2} |
23:51 |
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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 1.374999 = 13.75 BTC [-] {2} |
23:52 |
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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 1.3985 = 13.985 BTC [+] {2} |
23:52 |
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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.0008323 = 4.9938 BTC [-] |