| 12:25 |
shinohai |
Koch strikes again https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/953797/7222cd75661fb888/ |
| 12:26 |
asciilifeform |
approx as interesting as what's in the latest prb, imho |
| 12:27 |
asciilifeform |
(i.e. strictly entomological) |
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~ 39 minutes ~ |
| 13:06 |
signpost |
> crypto-refresh |
| 13:06 |
signpost |
lol |
| 13:08 |
signpost |
being pushed by fucking proton, too. |
| 13:08 |
signpost |
this approach is dated; what's with all the white cis dudes? they should find a troon of colour to champion this upgrade. |
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~ 49 minutes ~ |
| 13:58 |
asciilifeform |
mop-up job, to try an' 'embrace & extinguish' the old rfc4880 support still floating around in various heathen proggies |
| 13:59 |
asciilifeform |
approx. same thing as the 'upgraded wallet' prb lul linked earlier |
| 13:59 |
asciilifeform |
(point being to kill third-party tools which relied on old format, and push the 'replacements' baked by usual suspects) |
| 14:00 |
* |
asciilifeform not finds this especially interesting, never saw any point in 'gui for gpg' nonsense |
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~ 6 hours 12 minutes ~ |
| 20:12 |
* |
crtdaydreams apropros proton |
| 20:19 |
crtdaydreams |
"If you see shit on one side of the cake: a) You clean that part up and eat the rest of the cake. b) You throw away the whole fucking cake." |
| 20:19 |
signpost |
most people these days eat the shit |
| 20:21 |
crtdaydreams |
I really find it hard to believe anyone would trust the PGP keys served by proton, it boggles the mind. |
| 20:22 |
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crtdaydreams confesses to using proton, but not under any delusional pretenses of "seekurity" |
| 20:22 |
crtdaydreams |
nfi how to set up and secure an email server |
| 20:23 |
crtdaydreams |
from my understanding the spam problem is a bitch |
| 20:24 |
crtdaydreams |
I find it hard to leave myself a central point of failure that I'm totally responsible for securing |
| 20:25 |
crtdaydreams |
it seem counterintuitive to have the email that runs email verification for the vps running on itself |
| 20:25 |
crtdaydreams |
if something goes wrong it seems like it'd be a real bitch to try and fix |
| 20:27 |
crtdaydreams |
I'm all ears if someone here has a better solution than a 3rd party email provider |
| 20:28 |
signpost |
if tmsr taught us anything, it's how much of a waste of time it is to try to polish imperial tech. |
| 20:29 |
signpost |
"I will Linux, but In My Own Way" |
| 20:29 |
signpost |
if you have need for secure communication, an airgapped 1.4 gpg will do well enough. |
| 20:29 |
signpost |
there isn't such thing as a secure internet-connected item in the world. |
| 20:31 |
signpost |
even these airgapped items are only as good as whatever you/I don't know about gpg. It would in no way surprise me - and asciilifeform worked for quite some time on phuctor to demonstrate - that keys generated with any widely-available entropy sources are breakable. |
| 20:32 |
signpost |
fuckgoats is sadly not widely available anymore, but I do trust that. |
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| 20:33 |
signpost |
anyway, I literally use a hosted email from one of the major "tech" companies because I consider email unwanted enemy territory. |
| 20:34 |
crtdaydreams |
I haven't examined fg in depth, but I do get the general principle of it's RNG generation. Would anyone be able to comment on the general cost of just the components minus PCB? |
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| 20:34 |
crtdaydreams |
alf might know |
| 20:35 |
crtdaydreams |
yeah, I initially picked proton over gmail/hotmail/etc because it doesn't ask for a phone number |
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| 20:36 |
crtdaydreams |
I got sick of gmail because of a spam problem, wanted a clean slate |
| 20:38 |
crtdaydreams |
There is a way to make new gmail accounts without a phone number, but it entails some shitfuckery and a device running an old android OS |
| 20:38 |
signpost |
the spam problem is inherent to the design of email; there's no way to fix it |
| 20:40 |
crtdaydreams |
I'm aware, but it can be minimized to near nothing by being very selective of what you use it for |
| 20:41 |
crtdaydreams |
I just use it to maintain accounts for the basics, stuff that's unavoidable if you want to participate in modern society |
| 20:45 |
crtdaydreams |
on an aside note, something I've been meaning to ask is how do you get a hold of btc? are you guys using goxes for a fiat conversion then immediately transferring to a cold wallet? |
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| 20:46 |
signpost |
if I had any btc, I would probably not leave it on an exchange. |
| 20:48 |
crtdaydreams |
clearly, but what I'm alluding to is if there really is any bitcoin economy left |
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| 20:48 |
crtdaydreams |
if anyone here is actively exchanging goods/labor directly for btc |
| 20:49 |
signpost |
thing's doing just fine as a hodl. one can buy goods from whoever's left standing after the collapse of the west. |
| 20:51 |
crtdaydreams |
heh, teaching mandarin for btc in the next world |
| 21:01 |
crtdaydreams |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/pest/2023-12-05#1031966 << print on demand pretty well eliminates the handling |
| 21:02 |
* |
crtdaydreams wonders if awt is selling gildan crap or if going for that premium stuff |
| 21:03 |
crtdaydreams |
not sure if there's any real sweet spot between quality and profit margins |
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~ 1 hours 19 minutes ~ |
| 22:23 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-12-07#1031500 << ~30 $ iirc |
| 22:23 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2023-12-07 20:34:09 crtdaydreams[jonsykkel|signpost]: I haven't examined fg in depth, but I do get the general principle of it's RNG generation. Would anyone be able to comment on the general cost of just the components minus PCB? |
| 22:25 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-12-07#1031498 << asciilifeform was recently considering baking an acoustic (morse. hold up to pnoje, like old autodialers) pocket otptron for point to point text. |
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| 22:25 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2023-12-07 20:32:25 signpost: fuckgoats is sadly not widely available anymore, but I do trust that. |
| 22:26 |
asciilifeform |
(... then remembered that ~nobody wants to pay for sane irons lol ) |
| 22:26 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2023-01-30 14:36:13 asciilifeform[5]: the unfortunate thing is that the only 'cheap' iron is likely to be whatever you currently have, + what's in scrapyard |
| 22:27 |
asciilifeform |
would be arguably neat imho. 0 electronic connections to anyffin (other than partner unit when generating pad) , watertight. |
| 22:30 |
asciilifeform |
buttons a la tv remote, 16x4 lcd, piezo. punch in plaintext, hit send, dit-dah-dah-etc. hit receive & hold up to handset. hold down 'u'+'s'+'g' buttons to zap the sram. |
| 22:31 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-12-07#1031502 << asciilifeform moar or less sees email as ~same as pastebin |
| 22:32 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2023-12-07 20:35:50 crtdaydreams[jonsykkel|signpost]: yeah, I initially picked proton over gmail/hotmail/etc because it doesn't ask for a phone number |
| 22:32 |
asciilifeform |
i.e. not matters half a shit what to use so long as it doesn't habitually drop msgs on the floor |
| 22:33 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-12-07#1031510 << other than asciilifeform's micro isp, afaik ~nuffin |
| 22:33 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2023-12-07 20:48:32 crtdaydreams[jonsykkel|signpost]: clearly, but what I'm alluding to is if there really is any bitcoin economy left |
| 22:38 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-12-07#1031508 << ideally you'd know a human willing to trade it for sumthing you have. this is no longer trivial and hasn't been for some yrs tho |
| 22:38 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2023-12-07 20:45:43 crtdaydreams[jonsykkel|signpost]: on an aside note, something I've been meaning to ask is how do you get a hold of btc? are you guys using goxes for a fiat conversion then immediately transferring to a cold wallet? |
| 22:39 |
asciilifeform |
naturally one can buy from gox, and extract it to yer 1xxx addr (afaik still possible in most goxen). has the obv caveats. |