08:49 |
shinohai |
$ticker btc usd |
08:49 |
busybot |
Current BTC price in USD: $16601.91 |
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09:56 |
billymg |
http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-11-08#1015751 << >> https://twitter.com/SBF_FTX/status/1592604699693580289 |
09:56 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2022-11-08 14:28:41 signpost: yeah I'm aleady astonished at the modern underclass stomach for insult, so I'm not placing any bets on the other side. |
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12:16 |
signpost |
billymg: hilarious, "the only way to make customers whole is to let me restart the ponzi" |
12:26 |
asciilifeform |
signpost: e.g. mavrodi said precisely same thing. and come to think of it, prolly erry pyramidist to date ditto |
12:26 |
asciilifeform |
'don't blame me, blame the police, they ruined you' etc |
12:27 |
asciilifeform |
technically aint a lie, either -- if pyramid dies tomorrow rather than today, the ~current~ chumps may well 'make whole' (if quit while ahead, lol), a ~different~, larger, set of morons will sink in their place |
12:28 |
signpost |
there's this, but also appears that normies, bred in captivity, seek it. |
12:29 |
asciilifeform |
indeed they do |
12:29 |
signpost |
they followed charismatic salesmen throughout history |
12:29 |
signpost |
exactly that. |
12:29 |
signpost |
even proper in the context of worthwhile culture. |
12:41 |
asciilifeform |
would be quite odd if, with wildly proliferating population of delish prey, somehow no predator. |
12:42 |
asciilifeform |
in e.g. late '80s ro, where there was not (and prolly could not have been) a mavrodi, the crown itself ended up setting up mmm-style pyramid. |
12:42 |
asciilifeform |
('caritas', iirc mp commented on subj) |
12:43 |
asciilifeform |
the 'idjit tax.' |
12:50 |
asciilifeform |
meanwhile, in gox lulcommentary. |
12:50 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2022-11-14 13:21:25 signpost: but yeah, the rapid unscheduled disassembly tends to follow a pattern |
13:01 |
signpost |
I knew someone that disappeared into a supposed parkinson's med for a while. |
13:01 |
asciilifeform |
signpost: ate as 'performance dope' or actually suffered from parkinsons ? |
13:02 |
signpost |
one oughta really carefully target useful reward when touching any of these |
13:02 |
signpost |
not strictly performance, just something that got stacked in the tower of "baww life hard" |
13:02 |
signpost |
no shit life hard. |
13:04 |
signpost |
subj of dopamine hacks, something I've begun doing lately is placing bets with myself on whether I can accomplish a task by a self-imposed deadline |
13:04 |
signpost |
and chopping tasks into pieces as small as possible. attempting to improve my sense of project timeline, and getting the reward kick while sitting at a keyboard for hours. |
13:05 |
asciilifeform |
on good % of planet, folx not yet discovered dope, still rely on vodka for 'life hard'. arguably moar spectacularly path to zombiefication than any known synthetic dope, but 'traditional' and so no one writes 'psychopharmacology of fxt' piece re subj |
13:06 |
asciilifeform |
signpost: in some professions, doping moar or less mandatory, esp. if you aint 'born for it' |
13:06 |
dulapbot |
(asciilifeform) 2022-01-16 asciilifeform: 'warriors on drugs' simply not interested in even admitting that folx take'em for reasons which often make sense, i.e. where life in usaschwitz in f |
13:08 |
asciilifeform |
( on the 'rich' side, tends to be 'want to be awake for 40 hour mp party with whores' rather than 'i fall asleep in front of the console' ) |
13:09 |
signpost |
http://logs.bitdash.io/trilema/2015-11-12#1322634 << heh! |
13:09 |
bitbot |
(trilema) 2015-11-12 mircea_popescu: the way it's going now we have software written by lumberjacks and trees planted by pencilnecks. |
13:12 |
awt |
http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-11-15#1016414 << help with what? |
13:12 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2022-11-15 15:42:12 asciilifeform[5]: awt: hm wai would faster serpent help ? |
13:13 |
asciilifeform |
awt: '100% cpu' when addrcast enabled |
13:13 |
awt |
100% cpu was not entirely due to address cast, for one |
13:14 |
asciilifeform |
awt: hm didja end up finding from what it was ? |
13:14 |
awt |
I was also under the impession that address cast involved encryption |
13:15 |
asciilifeform |
awt: it obv. does, for the red packet intake (as for all red packets) but 1 deserpenting per (after hmac verifies); then once again for the red addrcast payload (after hmac verifies) |
13:15 |
asciilifeform |
so to asciilifeform wasn't clear wai seemed to eat so much moar cpu |
13:16 |
asciilifeform |
per asciilifeform's understanding, in a correctly-implemented pestron (with or without addrcast), most cpu time oughta be expected in hmac |
13:18 |
awt |
100% cpu was seen in at least one case due to a 'prod loop' that could occur under very specific circumstances. Forgetting the exact details at the moment. |
13:19 |
asciilifeform |
a hm |
13:19 |
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asciilifeform will comment further after tries awt's latest patch |
13:20 |
signpost |
current blatta doing fine over here on two stations |
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17:05 |
phf |
asciilifeform, locklin is oddly dense on your point, but i'm starting to suspect it's not an intentional jwz-ism, man is genuinely lacking some of the shared priors. |
17:07 |
phf |
e.g. sometime in the early days of tmsr we've formulated the counterparty problem, which is a foundational philosophical issue, to be studied along with zero sum games and rational agents. without fully groking it, the conversation turns into "it's backed by gold, says so on the label, duh! the other n-goxes obviously were |
17:07 |
phf |
n't" |
17:08 |
phf |
you're consistently trying to make that point, but i think that you might as well be speaking foreign language |
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17:42 |
asciilifeform |
phf: asciilifeform was thinking this. |
17:43 |
asciilifeform |
fwiw locklin personally friends w/ at least 1 shitcoin peddler, so likely has ~impenetrable mental block on subj, genuinely believes in 'cryptocurrencies'(tm) plurality etc |
17:45 |
asciilifeform |
his continued interest in the 'space' is hard-predicated on 'not getting that point', so likely he aint aboutta. |
17:46 |
asciilifeform |
it's a bitter pill, if think about it -- that there aint 'cryptocurrencies'(tm), there's (disused) bitcoin + buncha scamola |
17:46 |
asciilifeform |
( see also e.g. ) |
17:47 |
dulapbot |
(asciilifeform) 2021-10-29 asciilifeform: shitcoinism is inevitable , like fungus in a grain silo (and i suspect that if it were possible to invest in the fungus -- some folx would do so) but is exactly in the role of fungus. |