#pest | 2022-07-06

14:23

awt

One problem with named pipes is that only one other process could use a pair of them to communicate with a station.

14:26

signpost

I thought they could be used by multiple processes, which is why I mentioned the bit about PIPE_BUF and interleaving

14:28

signpost

socket's also an option.

14:32

awt

signpost: They can. But once one process reads the contents, the buffer is emptied. I haven't used named pipes before so there may be a way to work around that that I'm not aware of.

14:32

signpost

ah derp, nah you're right

14:33

*

signpost even mentioned multiple attached services to the same station.

14:36

*

asciilifeform can't think of any persuasive reason not to use ordinary sockets for pestron frontend

14:37

asciilifeform

let'em eat sexprs.

14:37

signpost

mhm

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14:54

awt

s-expressions would be good. easy to tell when you've got the whole command.

14:56

awt

the client could send commands, and the station could send back tree operations.

14:59

awt

perhaps the initial client should be the irc client

15:01

signpost

the challenge there would be avoiding letting the constraints of IRC leak into this interface, which was what prompted the effort to split into client and server and define a protocol between 'em.

15:02

signpost

writing a weechat plugin instead might be worthwhile since 1) allows python and 2) probably lets you rewrite the entire buffer easily, not just append.

15:05

awt

Hmm yes. Wouldn't hurt to see what's possible in a plugin.

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17:10

*

asciilifeform hates weechat with a passion, tho using it currently for pestnet (ye olde xchat has problem connecting to >1 box simult.)

17:10

dulapbot

(asciilifeform) 2022-01-06 asciilifeform: finds even 'weechat' gnarly, for reason of impossibility of pasting from it anywhere w/out linebreaks pissed into output

17:16

asciilifeform

!!deed http://www.loper-os.org/pub/tbf/tbf_q2_2022.txt

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19:13

awt

pestbot: ping

19:13

pestbot

pong

~ 2 hours 30 minutes ~

21:44