01:03 |
awt |
signpost: makes sense |
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~ 13 hours 20 minutes ~ |
14:23 |
awt |
$ticker btc usd |
14:23 |
busybot |
Current BTC price in USD: $20026.41 |
14:23 |
awt |
Damn I always miss the sub 20k level |
14:28 |
* |
asciilifeform misses 'abstractly', as has nobody to buy from (won't use goxes) |
14:30 |
awt |
A mutable web UI for pest might not be that hard to put together. Wouldn't even require js. |
14:35 |
awt |
lol why hope for cheapcoinz if even then you can't buy them? |
14:43 |
shinohai |
I won't KYC either, usually get BTC from shitcoin consulting, but the sad thing is *no one hires you* when exchange rate is this low. So haven't had any coins in months now. :( |
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~ 41 minutes ~ |
15:24 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/pest/2022-06-29#1008237 << hypothetically, for some value of 'cheap', sumbody in l1 might offer to sell |
15:24 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-06-29 10:33:18 awt[asciilifeform]: lol why hope for cheapcoinz if even then you can't buy them? |
15:31 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai: wai would the consulting dry up or otherwise depending on exch rate ? |
15:34 |
shinohai |
asciilifeform: I believe their thought process to be "You charge $1K USD to do `x` job, paid in BTC - so we pay you 0.05 and then 1-2 weeks later price skyrockets and that 0.05 is worth $2500!!!!" |
15:34 |
shinohai |
i.e. they always think solely in fiat terms. |
15:35 |
asciilifeform |
hm but if they thought in fiat terms, and given that they aint averse to using goxes, would expect they'd think e.g. 'it's still 100$ no matter what exch rate is' neh |
15:35 |
asciilifeform |
i.e. client can walk straight to a gox and pay you the '100$' regardless of exch rate |
15:36 |
asciilifeform |
( so long as takes care to do it at the time of the deal, rather than some unspecified later ) |
15:36 |
shinohai |
One would think, but above is the main objection I get - nevermind that year or so later it could do exact same thing or even 4x in fiat terms. |
15:37 |
* |
shinohai suspects this is why so many folks now try to offer you "tether" coinz ..... |
15:39 |
asciilifeform |
would naively expect algo would be 1) contract shinohai to do $job for $x 2) immediately buy $x of btc at gox 3) wait for $job result 4) send the coin |
15:39 |
asciilifeform |
then no 'exch risk' |
15:42 |
shinohai |
Folks in the shitcoin sewers rarely have ideas like that it seems, the folks behind "zclassic" being notable exception. Paid 50% of agreed fee up front, no quibbling or questions asked at all. |
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~ 5 hours 17 minutes ~ |
20:59 |
awt |
Just counted the number of lines after a "full" sync using a copy of the #pest logs. Missing about 600 lines out of 4405 total. |
21:01 |
awt |
jonsykkel: did you do anything to test syncing wild logs or verify all logs synced? |
21:08 |
awt |
I found that syncing selfchain only resulted in a full sync of all lines originating from a station, but following netchain doesn't seem to work all that well. |
21:19 |
asciilifeform |
awt: at the risk of pedantry, in 3.3.1.6.4: 'A GetData Message may be emitted by a station... ...in possession of a Message for which the SelfChain or NetChain antecedent has not been received' |
21:19 |
asciilifeform |
i.e. either oughta trigger getdata. |
21:25 |
awt |
asciilifeform: yeah that is what *should* be happening in blatta. |
21:28 |
awt |
Seems like right now some antecedents are unreachable for some reason. |
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~ 16 minutes ~ |
21:44 |
awt |
Sadly I can't link to the relevant logic right now: http://btcbase.org/patches/9978-bugfixes/tree/blatta/lib/message.py |
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~ 36 minutes ~ |
22:20 |
asciilifeform |
aa makes sense |
22:24 |
asciilifeform |
awt: seems like the relevant logic is in station.py tho |
22:24 |
asciilifeform |
in 'report_error' |
22:34 |
asciilifeform |
awt: the logic in clean_getdata_requests dun make sense to asciilifeform |
22:35 |
asciilifeform |
if (self.getdata_requests.get(message_hash) < |
22:35 |
asciilifeform |
time.time() - self.state.get_knob('getdata_requests_expiration_seconds')): |
22:35 |
asciilifeform |
del self.getdata_requests[message_hash] |
22:39 |
asciilifeform |
awt: e.g. this is how oughta work |
22:40 |
asciilifeform |
awt: seems to me that in your current blatta, getdata's expire immediately |
22:41 |
asciilifeform |
may explain wai often enuff they go unanswered |
22:44 |
asciilifeform |
or hm, nm |
22:45 |
asciilifeform |
the given algo, while seems 'backward', oughta work |