03:46 |
asciilifeform |
!!key TomServo |
03:46 |
deedbot |
http://wot.deedbot.org/43FE67E10A9067FCED14EA4E1B0816F3976AD987.asc |
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~ 11 hours 41 minutes ~ |
15:27 |
asciilifeform |
$ticker btc usd |
15:27 |
busybot |
Current BTC price in USD: $21138.33 |
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~ 6 hours 1 minutes ~ |
21:29 |
awt |
asciilifeform: presumably we want to support unicode handles? |
21:29 |
asciilifeform |
awt: asciilifeform much opposed to unicode handles, see spec re why |
21:33 |
awt |
asciilifeform: oh ok makes sense. |
21:33 |
awt |
currently will likely crash your station |
21:37 |
asciilifeform |
hmm there's no trap for rubbish in handles atm ? |
21:39 |
awt |
asciilifeform: no. Will simply fail to decode to ascii |
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21:39 |
asciilifeform |
right but why crash |
21:39 |
asciilifeform |
fail to decode -> ignore , is how oughta be |
21:40 |
awt |
Shouldn't crash, obv |
21:41 |
awt |
As the cod is now, no way to conveniently ignore DIRECT or BROADCAST messages |
21:42 |
awt |
*code |
21:42 |
awt |
Will have to think about it |
21:43 |
asciilifeform |
in general, an ill-formatted msg oughta have same effect as a martian. i.e. 0 |
21:56 |
asciilifeform |
awt: lulzy that there aint any way of forcing unicode strings to be visually distinct. but apparently fact. |
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22:35 |
billymg |
http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-06-13#1006837 << impressive. very nice |
22:35 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2022-06-13 17:29:48 signpost: kraken ceo at least seems ideologically palatable, but I admit he's one guy likely to be digested and shat by the empire. |
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23:00 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-06-15#1006889 << btw you can simply check if ea. byte falls into the prescribed range; no need to call py's decode thing |
23:00 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2022-06-15 21:39:10 awt[asciilifeform|signpost|billymg]: asciilifeform: no. Will simply fail to decode to ascii |
23:01 |
signpost |
billymg: yeah, jesse seems alright. |
23:03 |
asciilifeform |
signpost: asciilifeform not familiar with subj; how so that 'alright', but then 'likely to be digested & shat' ? |
23:04 |
signpost |
well he's mortal. they can always kill him if nothing else sticks. |
23:04 |
billymg |
asciilifeform: 'likely to be digested and shat' because 'alright', isn't that how it always works? |
23:05 |
asciilifeform |
signpost: afaik not possible for 'honest man' to run a gox, given as it interfaces w/ reichbanks and will regularly receive 'national seekroority letters' and other decrees which require it to lie to users |
23:05 |
asciilifeform |
and given that hasn't yet been killed... tertium non datur, neh |
23:06 |
signpost |
I do not hold him to the standard of "fella can't even process payments for arms deals with north korea". |
23:07 |
asciilifeform |
what from signpost's pov is the standard for 'acceptable gox' , outta curiosity ? |
23:08 |
signpost |
I can get company store credits into the thing reliably, coin to 1-addy out, and have L1 sitting within the thing which gives me some amount of confidence re: solvency. |
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23:08 |
asciilifeform |
a |
23:08 |
asciilifeform |
would expect that one still demands meatspace name, postage addr, passports, etc. ? (or no?) |
23:09 |
asciilifeform |
(any remain which don't?) |
23:09 |
signpost |
yep, demands imprint of ballsack in triplicate like they all do. |
23:09 |
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asciilifeform not looked into subj in rather long time |
23:11 |
billymg |
asciilifeform: gotta file paperwork to buy gun in US too, does that mean it's better to never buy a gun? |
23:11 |
asciilifeform |
billymg: in most of usa can still buy w/ greens from human |
23:11 |
billymg |
and btc as well |
23:11 |
asciilifeform |
aha |
23:12 |
asciilifeform |
( gun in particular bought through Official process has well-understood minus, lol ) |
23:12 |
asciilifeform |
rather similar to coin ditto |
23:13 |
billymg |
so question becomes, better to have registered btc/firearm, or none at all? |
23:13 |
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signpost doesn't plan to shoot pigs or avoid income tax any time soon. |
23:13 |
billymg |
assuming you can't get the qty you want from wot-market |
23:13 |
signpost |
either getting out of this shitty country in a few years, or I expect things to be so unstable paperwork has nothing to do with whether a badged thug comes looking for my valuables. |
23:13 |
asciilifeform |
if can only get Officially-registered putty knife, 'better than nuffin' obv. |
23:14 |
asciilifeform |
esp if quickly 'lost in boat trip' |
23:19 |
asciilifeform |
in asciilifeform's pov, 90% of the whole pt of btc tho is that nobody has any biz knowing how much you have |
23:20 |
asciilifeform |
( granted, often enuff someone can guess , and easily infer that it aint 0, but can't wire ~everyone~ to 220v all of the time ) |
23:21 |
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asciilifeform must bbl |
23:22 |
signpost |
well, that's the trouble with doing business in company store credits in the first place. |
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23:22 |
billymg |
asciilifeform: it's this "can't wire everyone to 220v" that makes the kraken model effective (even if not ideal) |
23:22 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2022-06-15 23:08:20 signpost: I can get company store credits into the thing reliably, coin to 1-addy out, and have L1 sitting within the thing which gives me some amount of confidence re: solvency. |
23:23 |
signpost |
but I'll need the inflation haven of bitcoin to keep my time free enough to make the other thing happen. |
23:25 |
billymg |
http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-06-15#1006931 << this too. even if find someone in-wot to transact with, how to you handle the fiat side (for anything more than play amounts)? |
23:25 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2022-06-15 23:22:27 signpost: well, that's the trouble with doing business in company store credits in the first place. |
23:25 |
signpost |
https://www.tradingview.com/x/fqddUVRi/ << it still does a great job of that on the longest scales, especially if you buy during winter. |
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23:26 |
signpost |
billymg: you pay for your cult leader's industrial barrels of butt lube. |
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23:27 |
billymg |
signpost: lol, but i'd say even then it was a different world. i'd imagine in 2022 if tried to wire to mp it'd be "who you wiring that money to, and for what?" |
23:27 |
signpost |
yeah, probably |