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03:46 asciilifeform !!key TomServo
03:46 deedbot http://wot.deedbot.org/43FE67E10A9067FCED14EA4E1B0816F3976AD987.asc
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15:27 asciilifeform $ticker btc usd
15:27 busybot Current BTC price in USD: $21138.33
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21:29 awt asciilifeform: presumably we want to support unicode handles?
21:29 asciilifeform awt: asciilifeform much opposed to unicode handles, see spec re why
21:33 awt asciilifeform: oh ok makes sense.
21:33 awt currently will likely crash your station
21:37 asciilifeform hmm there's no trap for rubbish in handles atm ?
21:39 awt asciilifeform: no. Will simply fail to decode to ascii
21:39 asciilifeform right but why crash
21:39 asciilifeform fail to decode -> ignore , is how oughta be
21:40 awt Shouldn't crash, obv
21:41 awt As the cod is now, no way to conveniently ignore DIRECT or BROADCAST messages
21:42 awt *code
21:42 awt Will have to think about it
21:43 asciilifeform in general, an ill-formatted msg oughta have same effect as a martian. i.e. 0
21:56 asciilifeform awt: lulzy that there aint any way of forcing unicode strings to be visually distinct. but apparently fact.
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22:35 billymg http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-06-13#1006837 << impressive. very nice
22:35 bitbot Logged on 2022-06-13 17:29:48 signpost: kraken ceo at least seems ideologically palatable, but I admit he's one guy likely to be digested and shat by the empire.
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23:00 asciilifeform http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-06-15#1006889 << btw you can simply check if ea. byte falls into the prescribed range; no need to call py's decode thing
23:00 bitbot Logged on 2022-06-15 21:39:10 awt[asciilifeform|signpost|billymg]: asciilifeform: no. Will simply fail to decode to ascii
23:01 signpost billymg: yeah, jesse seems alright.
23:03 asciilifeform signpost: asciilifeform not familiar with subj; how so that 'alright', but then 'likely to be digested & shat' ?
23:04 signpost well he's mortal. they can always kill him if nothing else sticks.
23:04 billymg asciilifeform: 'likely to be digested and shat' because 'alright', isn't that how it always works?
23:05 asciilifeform signpost: afaik not possible for 'honest man' to run a gox, given as it interfaces w/ reichbanks and will regularly receive 'national seekroority letters' and other decrees which require it to lie to users
23:05 asciilifeform and given that hasn't yet been killed... tertium non datur, neh
23:06 signpost I do not hold him to the standard of "fella can't even process payments for arms deals with north korea".
23:07 asciilifeform what from signpost's pov is the standard for 'acceptable gox' , outta curiosity ?
23:08 signpost I can get company store credits into the thing reliably, coin to 1-addy out, and have L1 sitting within the thing which gives me some amount of confidence re: solvency.
23:08 asciilifeform a
23:08 asciilifeform would expect that one still demands meatspace name, postage addr, passports, etc. ? (or no?)
23:09 asciilifeform (any remain which don't?)
23:09 signpost yep, demands imprint of ballsack in triplicate like they all do.
23:09 * asciilifeform not looked into subj in rather long time
23:11 billymg asciilifeform: gotta file paperwork to buy gun in US too, does that mean it's better to never buy a gun?
23:11 asciilifeform billymg: in most of usa can still buy w/ greens from human
23:11 billymg and btc as well
23:11 asciilifeform aha
23:12 asciilifeform ( gun in particular bought through Official process has well-understood minus, lol )
23:12 asciilifeform rather similar to coin ditto
23:13 billymg so question becomes, better to have registered btc/firearm, or none at all?
23:13 * signpost doesn't plan to shoot pigs or avoid income tax any time soon.
23:13 billymg assuming you can't get the qty you want from wot-market
23:13 signpost either getting out of this shitty country in a few years, or I expect things to be so unstable paperwork has nothing to do with whether a badged thug comes looking for my valuables.
23:13 asciilifeform if can only get Officially-registered putty knife, 'better than nuffin' obv.
23:14 asciilifeform esp if quickly 'lost in boat trip'
23:19 asciilifeform in asciilifeform's pov, 90% of the whole pt of btc tho is that nobody has any biz knowing how much you have
23:20 asciilifeform ( granted, often enuff someone can guess , and easily infer that it aint 0, but can't wire ~everyone~ to 220v all of the time )
23:21 * asciilifeform must bbl
23:22 signpost well, that's the trouble with doing business in company store credits in the first place.
23:22 billymg asciilifeform: it's this "can't wire everyone to 220v" that makes the kraken model effective (even if not ideal)
23:22 bitbot Logged on 2022-06-15 23:08:20 signpost: I can get company store credits into the thing reliably, coin to 1-addy out, and have L1 sitting within the thing which gives me some amount of confidence re: solvency.
23:23 signpost but I'll need the inflation haven of bitcoin to keep my time free enough to make the other thing happen.
23:25 billymg http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-06-15#1006931 << this too. even if find someone in-wot to transact with, how to you handle the fiat side (for anything more than play amounts)?
23:25 bitbot Logged on 2022-06-15 23:22:27 signpost: well, that's the trouble with doing business in company store credits in the first place.
23:25 signpost https://www.tradingview.com/x/fqddUVRi/ << it still does a great job of that on the longest scales, especially if you buy during winter.
23:26 signpost billymg: you pay for your cult leader's industrial barrels of butt lube.
23:27 billymg signpost: lol, but i'd say even then it was a different world. i'd imagine in 2022 if tried to wire to mp it'd be "who you wiring that money to, and for what?"
23:27 signpost yeah, probably
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