#pest | 2022-06-03

Logged on 2022-06-02 23:44:35 awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: signpost: job market is indeed toast

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http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-06-02#1006166 << to date, 100% of 'chaos in streets' in reich was of the controlled variety

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Logged on 2022-06-02 23:13:04 signpost[asciilifeform]: the system looks trapped. unemployment means chaos in the streets, and low interest rates means inflation, which means unemployment, which means.

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asciilifeform: not my experience

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awt: elaborate

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SV was a ghost down around the time I graduated. Similarly I was laid off in 2008.

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Could say my hands grow from the incorrect place I guess

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moar plausibly 'biz cycle' is moar palpable in west usa

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where mega-tbtf corps balloon and then pop periodically with printola emission fluctuations

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Is why I ended up on the east coast for a while

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When IPO market ended last fall, project similarly cancelled

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in east, good % of 'economy' is ultimately powered by reich contracts with terms measured in decades

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asciilifeform: i've heard of hiring freezes and slowdowns also, and not just in meme headlines. buddy of mine who's a software exec at some company was commenting weeks ago about how "job market is bad now"

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asciilifeform believes

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'future is here but not evenly distributed'(tm)(r)(w.gibson)

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http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-06-02#1006155 << the interesting imho thing is that there's plenty of 'product' that could stop moving 4evah and no sane people will notice or care (e.g. orlov's favourite example, 'little orange plastic pumpkins erry october')

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Logged on 2022-06-02 23:00:44 signpost[asciilifeform]: govt can print as much money as they like; if products are not moving, workers for the companies making them are not being paid.

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good % of nominal reich economy consists of these idiocies

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(not even to mention the purely paper 'products')

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... or the 'planned obsolescence' liquishit

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the plastic autos which typically in junkyard before the 5y credit is paid, etc

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all of this nonsense made possible by 'brr'

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http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-06-03#1006212 << you're definitely not representative of average grunt, my dude.

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Logged on 2022-06-03 00:01:08 asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-06-02#1006186 << whenever asciilifeform reads these, always wonders if 'parallel universe'. in just about erry salt mine where did time, was always shortage of hands, and ~impossible to hire ~anybody with hands growing from correct place

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reich would in fact be ~richer~ if the folx 'employed' to stamp out this shite were instead collecting 'ubi' and smoking opium

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(in whatever terms one likes)

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question isn't that, but whether transition to same can be orderly.

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or, interesting!

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afaik this transition already happening for many yrs, and about as orderly as anyffin in reich

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http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-06-03#1006221 << yep, these have been first to say "ouch", for the obvious reason.

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Logged on 2022-06-03 00:04:20 asciilifeform: where mega-tbtf corps balloon and then pop periodically with printola emission fluctuations

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http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-06-03#1006234 << the most entertaining (because I'm demented) future imho is the one where other reich-aligned fiats implode, absorbing some of the last few years' printola.

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Logged on 2022-06-03 00:14:20 asciilifeform: all of this nonsense made possible by 'brr'

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e.g. eur

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say the reich's playing a game of who crumbles first, and capitulates into USD.

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current reich plan seems to be to sacrifice the fat, lazy eureichtards

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turkey, etc

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turks afaik have a reasonably complete physical economy and well-posed for a hypothetical 'definancialization'

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+ a reasonably-working army

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and decent supply of historic fuckings to avenge when get the chance.

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afaik lira's inflating like hell. but yeah, traditional solution's also right there for them.

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actually by turkish standards I guess 70% inflation's tame!

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~140% in 1980 apparently.

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~nobody saves in orc currencies afaik, even in orcistans

~ 13 hours 54 minutes ~

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u0_a280

$ticker btc usd

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busybot

Current BTC price in USD: $29595.85

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u0_a280

Happy Friday all! #pest been busy, nice to see.

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wb shinohai

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igualmente asciilifeform

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Really digging awt's latest blatta fix, makes the thing feel more civilized.

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shinohai: hm which fix?

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asciilifeform: http://share.alethepedia.com/blatta/9977-presence-on-join.vpatch

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a

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asciilifeform not tested yet

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Gotta update bot station this weekend and may switch my main station to it. Using the "smartphone" as testbed for new vpatches currently.

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shinohai: good to hear

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awt: question about the lsi raid card in your supermicro server. did you have to do anything special to get into its config menu at boot? i can't seem to get the "type ctrl-c to configure" message to appear. however, once booted into the OS (gentoo live usb), `lspci` shows the card

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i've tried all sorts of bios config options

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