#pest | 2022-05-21

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01:20

http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-05-20#1005661 << is wat the nat drill is for. afaik not implemented anywhere yet tho

01:20

Logged on 2022-05-20 20:35:01 shinohai[asciilifeform]: suspects billymg is behind NAT and that pest port isn't open .....

01:23

Oh hai asciilifeform ... just cannot figure out why billymg is only peer currently cannot connect with. Everyone else working fine on BOTH pest implementations.

01:23

fwiw asciilifeform peered with billymg correctly

01:24

(and from nat, even)

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asciilifeform suspects some kinda state (db) bug on 1 end or other, where old key erroneously retained

01:25

heh now I see asciilifeform as hearsay

01:25

odd, asciilifeform sees shinohai as properly peered

01:26

But on my phone, u0_a280 shows you as 'shinohai' hearsay, so you are *known* peer it seems.

01:26

hm shinohai , are you using identical keys on >1 station ?

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for anybody

01:27

nope, all keys are different for each peer

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and each machine

01:27

nfi then

01:29

Weird, did it when you first joined,, then suddenly worx: http://btc.info.gf/uploads/PEST666.png

01:30

hmm, joined ?

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shinohai: are you under a nat ?

01:33

Nope and pest port is open

~ 12 hours 19 minutes ~

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~ 2 hours 6 minutes ~

15:59

Afaik being peered with a station does not guarantee all messages from that station will not be displayed as hearsay.

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16:01

Additionally, afaik no one with peering issues has yet attempted to debug using this method: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-03-04#1004117

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Logged on 2022-03-04 20:50:30 awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: Could eliminate timing by starting a config with only the affected peer.

16:02

Buenos dias awt!

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Buenos shinohai

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Also if you are seeing more hearsay messages from peers than you'd like, you can try adjusting embargo_interval_seconds upwards

16:03

how goes this weekend awt? /me mobile atm

16:06

shinohai: going well overall ty.

16:06

shinohai: and yourself?

16:10

All good here, enjoying some sunshine today w/ the girls - last day before 5 days of rain. xD

16:16

http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-05-21#1005703 << ya know, this makes sense to me now since might see the message from anoother peer first rather than the speaker in question.

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Logged on 2022-05-21 15:59:08 awt[asciilifeform|billymg]: Afaik being peered with a station does not guarantee all messages from that station will not be displayed as hearsay.

16:16

Guess it depends on latency, cosmic rays, etc.

16:20

shinohai: yes

~ 5 hours 58 minutes ~

22:18

awt: aha, whole point of permitting hearsay bearing a peer's handle is that orig. may be lost or delayed ( > embargo_interval )

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http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-05-21#1005713 << asciilifeform still suspects bug(s) in the reorderer, rather than packet delays ( in asciilifeform's various experiments, measured ~0 serious packet delay or loss even across oceans )

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Logged on 2022-05-21 16:16:42 u0_a280[asciilifeform]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-05-21#1005703 << ya know, this makes sense to me now since might see the message from anoother peer first rather than the speaker in question.

22:32

asciilifeform: perhaps b00gs - but not very consistent b00gs

22:35

just bulked up on rice, flour, and yeast. who tf knows what'll be on the shelves this fall

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