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15:05 * diana_coman goes to read cruciform's adventure with covid
15:17 diana_coman cruciform: you know, croydon (probably all london, in fairness) sounds - as usual - worse, really; as I even documented, it was never that sort of problem around here about food, huh.
15:17 diana_coman anyways, congrats on publishing it on time! how did the writing go/
15:20 cruciform diana_coman, slower than expected (as I'm finding with the gambling article) - there's a kind of resistance pushing back from the blank page: http://trilema.com/2014/a-conceit-or-the-importance-of-blogging/#selection-59.24-59.125
15:22 cruciform http://ossasepia.com/2020/03/19/the-soap-rush-and-the-toilet-roll-bubble/ there's something uniquely grim about grey English winters
15:27 diana_coman cruciform: that blank page resistance is real, yes; it doesn't quite go fully away either but it's less bothersome with practice (and having stuff to write about)
15:27 ossabot Logged on 2020-01-23 12:26:50 ossabot: (trilema) 2020-01-23 mircea_popescu: being smart and having interesting work are the only cure to writer's block yet found or ever liable to be known
15:27 diana_coman and it was spring!!111 lolz
15:27 diana_coman in fairness, I should take some fresh photos with all this perfectly blue sky and shining sun, too
15:28 cruciform and lowered hambeast density :)
15:29 cruciform I'm looking forward to... looking back on these articles; it's really helpful to be able to refer to one's past self
15:30 diana_coman heh, it's even better than that - it's ~countryside style almost; tbh I'm in quite close-to-countryside area anyway, but now with almost no cars and very little noise, all birds and everything else is taking over; I won't complain of it either.
15:31 diana_coman cruciform: that is true; and moreover, stuff you write once tends to turn out useful later on anyway (in ways you can't predict now); just stick with it.
15:32 cruciform diana_coman, Oh, yes! I wrote an article on reasons for dumping my girlfriend in January - referring back to it has saved me the disaster of getting back in touch
15:33 diana_coman ahahah; where did you publish that?
15:33 cruciform it's currently unpublished; I might be too bashful at present to publicise it
15:34 jfw http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-04-20#1024912 - thanks diana_coman for bringing it up, and bvt's approach has quite grown on me. Content-addressable referencing, even if imprecise, would be pretty great compared to depending on an also-imprecise and changing timeline.
15:34 ossabot Logged on 2020-04-20 18:47:08 diana_coman: thank you jfw, trinque, bvt for weighing in on this; I'll revisit the gossipd documents too and think of it some more but so far bvt's idea seems quite fitting to me and I can't so far see any problem with it either.
15:35 diana_coman lol @bashful; I'll end up publishing that time when I had to tell the guys they are neither exactly 7 nor dwarves and I'm no Snow White anyway.
15:35 cruciform http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-04-21#1024924 and this is reminding me of my need to move outta London - I was just about to before the lockdown kicked in, though I might just be using that as an excuse to delay my move at this point
15:35 ossabot Logged on 2020-04-21 16:52:00 diana_coman: heh, it's even better than that - it's ~countryside style almost; tbh I'm in quite close-to-countryside area anyway, but now with almost no cars and very little noise, all birds and everything else is taking over; I won't complain of it either.
15:37 diana_coman jfw: I'm quite convinced it's one of those things where "precision" of the sort attempted with linenumbers is about as idiotic as it can get; it's not precise, nor can it be precise nor is there any real *need* for it to be precise really; yes, different clients might hear different lines in different order - so what of it?
15:37 diana_coman cruciform: where were you looking to move to?
15:38 cruciform Bath is first on the list, though I'll probably check out York, too
15:39 diana_coman aha, further away; Bath seemed rather grim to me but I can't say I tried all that hard to not-find-it-grim, lol.
15:39 cruciform Really? What didn't you like about it?
15:42 diana_coman cruciform: I only visited it so it's not like I have the full files on it; but ...there was ~nothing I could find of interest, had this air of "it was something, once upon a time"
15:42 diana_coman then again, in fairness, I could apply that to quite a lot of places, lol
15:42 cruciform lol, was about to say: sounds like England in general
15:42 diana_coman (and now I realise I wrote of Cardiff but not of Bath, huh)
15:42 cruciform do you have any recommendations?
15:42 diana_coman even of Bristol actually but I did like Bristol better at least
15:43 diana_coman cruciform: what are you after? (and then again - it's you the local!!)
15:44 cruciform you're probably better travelled than I - I rarely leave the M25; I like university towns with nice architecture and cafes
15:44 jfw diana_coman: bitcoin comes to mind as something where order very much matters, though understood that's not the problem at hand, and even there we see hash-based rather than precise sequence based referencing
15:44 diana_coman cruciform: well, for nice cafes, I'm afraid the *only* place where they have that is...Austria! lolz
15:45 cruciform aha! I've been meaning to visit Vienna; loved Prague, which I'm told is somewhat similar
15:45 diana_coman hm, nice cafes in ...the UK?? good god, where have you seen such wonder?
15:45 cruciform well, nice *enough* !
15:46 diana_coman I suppose some of those patisserie valerie might sort of kind of qualify at times, but ...well, they are quite continental, lol
15:47 diana_coman jfw: it's not that order doesn't matter; it's the precision at that sort of level the trouble; and yeah, it was re multi-way chat; basically gossip indeed;
15:47 cruciform diana_coman, I'm curious - why have you chosen England of all places to reside?
15:48 diana_coman fwiw I did revist the gossipd documents and discussions - there is "time" as field indeed but it's even specifically said that yeah, up to clients how they handle mismatches/differences because ofc they can happen; in a word - sanity.
15:49 jfw pretty much has to be time-according-to-what-clock I reckon
15:50 jfw though the sun gives a pretty reliable & objective low-resolution source!
15:51 diana_coman cruciform: because of such a combination of factors that I'm stuck picking one each time I get that question, lol; and I could swear I answered it at least a couple of other times in the log but couldn't find it now!
15:51 diana_coman jfw: ahaha, logger should use sundial!
15:53 * jfw goes to mount a lux meter on the roof and run a stratum-0 NTP server off it
15:55 jfw ah drat, that assumes They haven't lied to me about my longitude!
15:56 diana_coman cruciform: I suppose I could say in short that I loved the French from a distance too much to be able to stand the current them for longer than 6 months, I had admired too much the Austrians that are there no more to stand living among the remains only, I found the Italians too Romanian and so on
15:57 diana_coman jfw: they always lie about the longitude!!
15:58 jfw If only I had a real-time channel to someone near the meridian to correlate solar observations.
15:59 trinque diana_coman: heh, at this rate the next tolerable place will be a space station in 2538.
16:00 cruciform diana_coman, so, the English are the least depressingly degenerate European civilisation?
16:00 diana_coman trinque: for better or for worse I have those who keep convincing me every time to NOT go to the woods!
16:01 trinque plenty of great ranchland throughout texas still
16:01 trinque and proximate to the cities too
16:02 diana_coman cruciform: heh, now in what sense are they ...ahem, european? lolz; but realise, the above is a matter of my own attachments in the end; basically the English were still to me foreign enough so that I am detached enough, familiar enough so that I can at least think (possibly entirely without any real base) that I understand any of it.
16:03 diana_coman trinque: the thing with woods is that in such case, I'm either spoiled for choice if I look at all the globe or otherwise I'll just go back to those mountains I used to roam as a kid and I still know them in detail, know their mushrooms and their bugs and their plants and all; what do I care of the rest anyway, if it's the woods.
16:05 diana_coman but yeah, at least so far I kind of anchored myself very well in not-woods; or so it seems.
16:06 trinque I'm just doing both, city place and shopping for a place for guns and bonfires
16:07 cruciform diana_coman, why would one want to be detached (enough) from one's surroundings?
16:08 diana_coman well, here I'm on the outskirts-towards-countryside of a town that is extremely well connected (it's a sort of hub re trains and biggish airports around); while I didn't know it initially, it turned out that I'm also quite close to the "posh countryside" for whatever that does; but in any case - lakes and the sort of piddly woods that this flattish land has are on my doorstep really, yes, can't complain of that.
16:08 diana_coman cruciform: it depends what you consider there as part of those surroundings.
16:09 trinque cruciform: being able to buy things you need, without having to hear your termite neighbors fuck.
16:09 trinque in my case.
16:09 * diana_coman notes that both neighbours are 90+ so no noise at all !
16:10 trinque gotta fuck softly when the bones are all porous!
16:10 diana_coman but anyway, yeah, not the sort of thing where one hears anything either.
16:10 diana_coman neah, it's a proper brick house and not wall-connected either.
16:14 diana_coman trinque: I kind of had that sort of setup in Italy really - great nature (and weather!!) and otherwise yes, had where to buy stuff without any trouble; the thing was that after a few wonderful years of that, I'd rather have moved to honest woods - because yes, can buy food and cloths and books; can't go though to a show worth anything unless going 4 hours and crossing the border sort of thing.
16:15 diana_coman cruciform: btw, that was part of "why England" or rather "why close to London" - to be able to go to a theatre play, the opera, a musical, a show, *something other than apple orchards and hiking*, lolz.
16:16 cruciform diana_coman, makes sense: close, but not TOO close!
16:19 diana_coman exactly so; and btw, it's faster to get to central London from Reading than from some parts of London!
16:20 cruciform ah, yea - I've been on that fast line to Maidenhead, iirc; on the topic of theatre, the newly revamped Fairfield Halls in Croydon isn't half bad - saw Tchaikovsky's 5th Symphony there last month
16:22 diana_coman cruciform: the "fast line" they keep advertising is a slower line really, lol; there's just direct train reading-paddington, takes half hour or a bit less even.
16:24 diana_coman anyways, there probably won't be much remaining after all this, I can't quite see where/how/on what would all the theatres survive anyway.
16:28 cruciform diana_coman, along the lines of http://trilema.com/2020/in-a-transparent-attempt-by-the-man-to-distract-attention-from-the-internal-problems-of-the-republic-by-focusing-it-instead-on-the-lulz-in-africa/#comment-148138 ?
16:29 diana_coman cruciform: pretty much.
16:31 cruciform doesn't MP's recent writing scupper the YH project? Particularly when he talks about males not being able to produce meaningful work?
16:32 diana_coman cruciform: here's that question already answered in the logs; apparently you need to read even more recent logs!
16:32 ossabot Logged on 2020-03-26 16:33:35 jfw: diana_coman: been sitting on the following question a bit but as there's no gain in silence I'll have it out: if you've had a chance to consider it yet, how do you interpret http://trilema.com/2019/so-i-was-thinking/#comment-148004 and specifically 'take my advice and do not ever indulge in the activity depicted. It is infinitely better to shoot any "smart" bois you run into on the spot than to
16:32 diana_coman follow the thread there.
16:33 cruciform diana_coman, will do, thanks; and yes - still need to read the logs!
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