#ossasepia | 2020-02-19

01:01

whaack

BingoBoingo: iirc http://qntra.net/2015/01/the-hard-fork-missile-crisis/ hooked me into reading trilema

01:12

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dorion as well.

01:25

jfw

oh hey, fixpoint gets its first spam. for ...amoxicillin online!

~ 2 hours 25 minutes ~

03:51

whaack

diana_coman: EOD Report: G: I have a better sense of how I want to go about filling the hours that are currently dedicated to saltmines from our discussion. WTI: I will work on asking for help in the right way for important decisions. B: Yesterday I prepared a pre-outline for today's outlining session. Today I improved that preoutline a bit and then tried to get a head start on writing tomorrow's

03:51

whaack

article. I think I should have stuck to improving the outline before beginning the article. WTI: Do not skimp on the planning phase of writing.

~ 4 hours 32 minutes ~

08:23

01:01	whaack	BingoBoingo: iirc http://qntra.net/2015/01/the-hard-fork-missile-crisis/ hooked me into reading trilema
01:12	*	dorion as well.
01:25	jfw	oh hey, fixpoint gets its first spam. for ...amoxicillin online!
		~ 2 hours 25 minutes ~
03:51	whaack	diana_coman: EOD Report: G: I have a better sense of how I want to go about filling the hours that are currently dedicated to saltmines from our discussion. WTI: I will work on asking for help in the right way for important decisions. B: Yesterday I prepared a pre-outline for today's outlining session. Today I improved that preoutline a bit and then tried to get a head start on writing tomorrow's
03:51	whaack	article. I think I should have stuck to improving the outline before beginning the article. WTI: Do not skimp on the planning phase of writing.
		~ 4 hours 32 minutes ~
08:23	diana_coman	http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-02-18#1018852 - so it would seem BingoBoingo would do indeed well to consider again the outreach of Qntra for readership too, huh.
08:23	ossabot	Logged on 2020-02-18 21:14:48 whaack: BingoBoingo: iirc http://qntra.net/2015/01/the-hard-fork-missile-crisis/ hooked me into reading trilema
08:25	diana_coman	http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-02-18#1018854 - congrats!
08:25	ossabot	Logged on 2020-02-18 21:38:56 jfw: oh hey, fixpoint gets its first spam. for ...amoxicillin online!
08:26	diana_coman	http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-02-19#1018855 - by the sounds of it you really need to do some proper outline and consider it as such; maybe ask for some feedback on it, one day?
08:26	ossabot	Logged on 2020-02-19 00:04:34 whaack: diana_coman: EOD Report: G: I have a better sense of how I want to go about filling the hours that are currently dedicated to saltmines from our discussion. WTI: I will work on asking for help in the right way for important decisions. B: Yesterday I prepared a pre-outline for today's outlining session. Today I improved that preoutline a bit and then tried to get a head start on writing tomorrow's
		~ 3 hours 41 minutes ~
12:07	BingoBoingo	diana_coman: Reviewing the logs, there's one big high return activity that fell out of the routine between the fall 2017 downtime and February 2018 restoration. Picking fights with idiots to get the idiots to direct their audience towards Qntra.
12:11	BingoBoingo	diana_coman: At this point it's looking clear that I have to stop letting other things keep pushing AWStats down the todo list indefinitely so I can get some readership information that isn't on a 5 year delay.
		~ 55 minutes ~
13:07	diana_coman	BingoBoingo: sounds like the log review is already starting to pay off; but do first finish the review and write-up, there's time afterwards to look at it all and use it properly, ok?
13:08	BingoBoingo	diana_coman: Ok, thank you. It isn't like access.log is going to run away.
13:08	diana_coman	exactly; and it waited so long, it can still wait a few days more
		~ 6 hours 2 minutes ~
19:11	jfw	This musl mission has definitely brought out some internal resistance/nervousness (neuroticism?) on my part. I felt it on sending the message, and even checking for responses. Perhaps a bit of conflict-avoidant nice-guy-ism - which I understand isn't actually nice to anyone least of all myself
19:13	diana_coman	jfw: was it re "seasoned engineers" aka you looking up to them? or just that "ugh, gotta tell them what they won't like to hear"? or both?
19:15	jfw	diana_coman: both
19:16	diana_coman	fwiw, you did fine otherwise, it's not like there was any clear trouble on your part as such; sure, practice & experience will help further but I wouldn't say there's much to worry there at all.
19:17	jfw	ty.
19:17	diana_coman	jfw: so given their response and overall approach - what's your take on them?
19:18	jfw	well, the latest from the main guy - which I'll shortly link in #t - confirms that they're pretty set on this path and it was their goal from the start
19:18	diana_coman	ah, there's more to the drama!
19:19	diana_coman	jfw: is it draining/tiresome on you otherwise?
19:21	diana_coman	(remembering from quite a few years back, there can be some added ...dread/would-rather-not associated with ~omg, those were the intelligent ones, it just can't be that they are nevertheless THAT stupid because then it really sucks)
19:23	jfw	diana_coman: it has been somewhat tiring or perhaps distracting, I don't mean to complain though
19:23	jfw	well, it doesn't surprise me at least that bright people can have strange notions deeply held
19:27	diana_coman	it's not about strange notions or about deeply held; it's about the consequence that ends up - then there's no help from those quarters and when that keeps adding up/repeating, it can be rather tiresome.
19:35	jfw	suspected deserts becoming known deserts on exploration
19:36	jfw	I think I do owe them a reply because at least the first guy asked a question but I expect that'll be it.
19:40	diana_coman	jfw: what's the question? but at any rate, sure, reply and/or comment in there to your satisfaction that you said everything you wanted to have said.
19:41	jfw	"Why do you not believe that musl could provide any of these features using clear and concise code?"
19:42	jfw	which isn't what I said of course; and beside the point as I see it: doesn't matter how well you do something if you're doing the wrong thing
19:43	diana_coman	jfw: and at any rate, it's precisely that change from "suspected deserts" to "known deserts" that matters and that is important; as it was said plainly, nobody really expected this to deliver in the sense of musl not going the unicode-way; nevertheless, it's only once attempted and experienced that it serves and can be pointed to as a fact.