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02:00 auctionbot S#1063 O=1 LB=20mn E=2019-11-12 15:43:00.630180 (127h42) >>> selling items 1, 2 and 4 through 7 on http://www.loper-os.org/pub/bones/snsa_1_nov_2019.txt ; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
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04:50 lobbes http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-11-06#1009098 << I will be doing some planning this weekend re: my next few weeks of work. I'll put said plan on the blog once I have it hashed out
04:50 ossabot Logged on 2019-11-06 15:28:53 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-11-06#1009074 - ok, so when's your eta to be done with putting those things in order so you can really get going?
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07:00 auctionbot S#1063 O=1 LB=20mn E=2019-11-12 15:43:00.630180 (122h42) >>> selling items 1, 2 and 4 through 7 on http://www.loper-os.org/pub/bones/snsa_1_nov_2019.txt ; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
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07:04 diana_coman http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-11-06#1009174 - myeah but listen here, wtf was that latency and dropping stuff there?
07:04 ossabot Logged on 2019-11-06 18:42:19 jfw: nope, ty.
07:04 diana_coman http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-11-06#1009177 - oh hey, glad to hear it!
07:04 ossabot Logged on 2019-11-06 18:56:27 hanbot: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-07-20#999045 << i'm thoroughly enjoying my logreading, haha. i've been missing out!
07:10 diana_coman hanbot: re time, there was an initial burst and then I reigned it in to something more sustainable, meaning about 3.5 hours per day averaged out; it's usually reading younghands.club on Monday morning + daily half hour in the morning, some attention as/if needed during the day and 2 hours from 7pm (though not on all days).
07:13 diana_coman then of course if people start spinning and answering like jfw yesterday as if everyone had all the time in the world to wait for them, there is waste and I'm currently considering measures against it.
07:14 diana_coman hanbot: it's worth saying though that the above time is active time; there was and times is a lot of background-thinking that is much harder to measure.
07:21 diana_coman http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-11-06#1009087 - you are welcome.
07:21 ossabot Logged on 2019-11-06 11:35:25 dorion: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-11-06#1009044 << and a beautifully economizing description at that, thank you!
07:28 diana_coman http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-11-07#1009184 - sounds good and I'll read it.
07:28 ossabot Logged on 2019-11-07 00:55:14 lobbes: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-11-06#1009098 << I will be doing some planning this weekend re: my next few weeks of work. I'll put said plan on the blog once I have it hashed out
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11:23 hanbot diana_coman thanks for the details --and yes i'm sure there's quite a column of less tangible organization etc. i was especially curious re daily commitment against what i'm reading, so your estimate helps
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11:51 diana_coman np; if you are still going through July, that's certainly within the initial-burst, I suspect it even shows; then again, starting things tends to require some burst in my experience.
11:56 hanbot am well into august, and the burst is pretty clear, yeah. incidentally, i gather you did some funnel-making online to trawl for noobish/forlorn coders? was that more successful than the meattalk you gave etc?
12:00 auctionbot S#1063 O=1 LB=20mn E=2019-11-12 15:43:00.630180 (117h42) >>> selling items 1, 2 and 4 through 7 on http://www.loper-os.org/pub/bones/snsa_1_nov_2019.txt ; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
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12:07 diana_coman hanbot: certainly more successful since basically all you see is ~that; meattalk resulted in full 0.
12:08 diana_coman hanbot: though the online was initial stage ie manual only; the issue in the end turned out that I'm unpersuaded as to those forums being of much use (webstack derping oh god)
12:11 diana_coman basically I do *not* want coders but ...live people, ffs.
12:11 diana_coman apparently a rare sort.
12:13 diana_coman ftr I should say that meattalk works for as long as meattalk only ie I'd need to kick them loads to get online and frankly I don't think they are worth *that* much.
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12:38 diana_coman ave1: what happened to you?
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12:56 hanbot diana_coman incredibly rare, in my (well international by now!) experience; people i meet face to face seem to have the interest, but not the proficiency, to find their way into the proverbial paper bag. online, i typically find the opposite, "why should i drop my tweeting/circlejerking/candy crush to jump hoops". so far and for a long while the only answer i've got is casting a wider net and not going nuts over it meanwhile.
12:58 hanbot it's especially in light of all that that i'm positive impressed with #o here.
12:58 hanbot *positively, lol
12:59 diana_coman hanbot: noted, thank you; I was/am reconsidering precisely the wider net & target part; fwiw in general I tend to notice & bring out the live people if/when I meet some but a bit at a loss as to where it's more likely to run into them
12:59 diana_coman hanbot: thank you :)
12:59 diana_coman possibly a working eulora would even help with that tbh
12:59 hanbot i'm sure
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15:04 jfw Apologies for that latency diana_coman. In this case I am guilty of multitasking: had switched to browser window and got drawn into reading; the former being the stupid part since the latter is predictable. I see how this was disrespectful of your time.
15:10 jfw on dropped items, what's coming to mind is: 1) http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-11-05#1008850 from the previous day, 2) the news of weekend trip which I should have said first thing not last, possibly 3) http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-11-06#1009158 - had you wanted me to track him down right then?
15:10 ossabot Logged on 2019-11-05 15:51:28 diana_coman: jfw: do you have certainty re supply there esp since older model?
15:10 ossabot Logged on 2019-11-06 18:13:43 diana_coman: jfw grab dorion too and consider then; best in here too.
15:10 whaack billymg: you should put an avatar on billymg.com
15:10 ossabot Logged on 2019-10-22 19:23:58 diana_coman: jfw: shrysr whaack get yourselves a proper avatar on your blog, will you? mp-wp will use whatever you have as avatar.png on your domain eg mine is http://ossasepia.com/avatar.png
15:10 diana_coman jfw: fine; don't do it again though.
15:11 jfw diana_coman: noted.
15:11 diana_coman jfw: not tracking him on the spot necessarily, no, but ack /some feedback as to what are you going to do (if anything??), basic.
15:11 dorion http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-11-06#1009103 << cool.
15:11 ossabot Logged on 2019-11-06 15:31:45 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-11-06#1009082 - not at all out of line, quite on the contrary since this is something related to your biz, so shared, I even expect you add to it if there's more (and he to your answers if they lack anything); and for that matter nudges in the open, it's perfectly fine.
15:12 jfw sticky-noted in fact.
15:12 diana_coman and dropping was re that weekend trip, yes; because if I take at face value your input there yest, it will end up badly.
15:12 dorion http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-11-05#1008876 << it started with the motivation to freeze
15:12 ossabot Logged on 2019-11-05 16:10:03 diana_coman: but hm, that does sound overall more like your own practice room to know-more-linux than anything else
15:12 ossabot Logged on 2019-11-05 16:17:16 diana_coman: the point was precisely that, namely to pin down and freeze something that one can reliably reproduce and then have as a starting point
15:13 dorion after wrestling with gentoo, jfw decided he'd rather start clean as clean as possible, including bootstrapping where gentoo fails, rather than decruft.
15:13 ossabot Logged on 2019-10-15 23:51:28 dorion: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/ossasepia/2019-10-15#1006391 << to add more context to this and with the luxury of hindsight, the original also included premature optimatizations such as a) make a linux from scratch cause no way to 'catalyst' a gentoo stage3 without a gentoo and b) implement scheme interpreter because even though jfw is strong with python, "not specified, does anyone even
15:13 ericbot Logged on 2019-10-15 20:18:42 jfw: Original idea of the business was to do btc/fiat brokerage, "done right" as in GPG API, TRB and so forth. The connections to do that didn't work out, but since I'd been working on hardware/software security, we've focused on selling that / training.
15:14 diana_coman myeah, I know that impulse and desire; it's still not a practical path though.
15:15 dorion diana_coman we've paid for it, and don't think the paying is done.
15:17 diana_coman dorion: quite.
15:17 jfw diana_coman: not quite following on http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-11-07#1009229
15:17 ossabot Logged on 2019-11-07 11:17:26 diana_coman: and dropping was re that weekend trip, yes; because if I take at face value your input there yest, it will end up badly.
15:18 jfw do you mean, if you allow a pattern of last-minute things?
15:19 diana_coman jfw: look, whenever I'm talking here to any of you, I'm paying you full attention, right? now look back at that convo and see how it looks because besides the multitasking/not-quite-here, it would seem as if you dropped that thing precisely when I said I was going away and then not even bothered to look/wait at all.
15:19 diana_coman I'll put it behind this time and this time only.
15:21 * dorion takes note. circling is death.
15:22 jfw noted too.
15:22 diana_coman thank you.
15:23 jfw and thank you for the patience.
15:24 * diana_coman will bbl
15:26 dorion to continue the Gales thread, the ports system (gports) grew with needs, deliberately opposed to Linux for s/everyone/no one/ ; it remains relatively small because projects like the Scheme interpreter took substantial time.
15:27 dorion The gbuild scripts follow how jfw thinks/needs the package to be build, aiming for enumarating goodness.
15:29 dorion On the one hand, there isn't a USE flag type mechanism, but otoh they're shell scripts which are straight foward enough to be modified by the operator, as opposed to the substantial investment one needs to make in gentooism to understand how to modify an ebuild.
15:31 jfw granted some investment required in either case, and some ebuilds are more comprehensible than others
15:34 dorion given Gales uses busybox, and trinque is looking at busybox, it occurs to me to ask if it's worth investigating what would be needed for gales to be integrated into cuntoo or vice-versa.
15:34 ossabot (trilema) 2019-11-06 trinque: and you have fewer men than you'd like, and I'm not going to pretend to be 20, and then cry when I fail at it. that's why I said I'm looking at kernel + busybox for my own stack. even it isn't human-sized, but it's about two orders of magnitude less twine and shit than "standard linux distro"
15:37 dorion http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-11-06#1009107 << I had you in mind when I put it in my plan for the week.
15:37 ossabot Logged on 2019-11-06 15:33:55 BingoBoingo: dorion, jfw: It occurs to me that an overview of the Gringo job market, cost of living, quality of life, etc in Panama could be of use to myself in the near future. Should diana_coman find this a useful allocation of some of either of your time.
15:38 dorion http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-11-06#1009109 << will do, I had started on the outline earlier in the week.
15:38 ossabot Logged on 2019-11-06 15:35:33 diana_coman: dorion: bump that up please.
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15:56 BingoBoingo Attn all looking to build up their handware stockpiles, another chassis is set for the auction block: http://bingology.net/2019/pizarro-liquidation-auctions-proposal/#comment-1505
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17:00 auctionbot S#1063 O=1 LB=20mn E=2019-11-12 15:43:00.630180 (112h42) >>> selling items 1, 2 and 4 through 7 on http://www.loper-os.org/pub/bones/snsa_1_nov_2019.txt ; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
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19:06 diana_coman http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-11-07#1009249 - it's of more concern that it's not that scalable really rather than that it's small currently
19:06 ossabot Logged on 2019-11-07 11:31:15 dorion: to continue the Gales thread, the ports system (gports) grew with needs, deliberately opposed to Linux for s/everyone/no one/ ; it remains relatively small because projects like the Scheme interpreter took substantial time.
19:07 diana_coman http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-11-07#1009251 - except it should all be on V already.
19:07 ossabot Logged on 2019-11-07 11:34:29 dorion: On the one hand, there isn't a USE flag type mechanism, but otoh they're shell scripts which are straight foward enough to be modified by the operator, as opposed to the substantial investment one needs to make in gentooism to understand how to modify an ebuild.
19:07 diana_coman ie sure, I don't particularly want to support ebuilds; onth if I go for something else & new, it should be V-shaped.
19:09 diana_coman http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-11-07#1009253 - not like I didn't tell that to him while he was still futzing about http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-14#1002523
19:09 ossabot Logged on 2019-11-07 11:39:59 dorion: given Gales uses busybox, and trinque is looking at busybox, it occurs to me to ask if it's worth investigating what would be needed for gales to be integrated into cuntoo or vice-versa.
19:09 ossabot Logged on 2019-09-14 09:29:43 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-14#1002514 - so stop suspecting and instead, just install Cuntoo, do the comparison to find out the differences and write it down properly
19:09 diana_coman but currently he still has other things to sort out first.
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22:00 auctionbot S#1063 O=1 LB=20mn E=2019-11-12 15:43:00.630180 (107h42) >>> selling items 1, 2 and 4 through 7 on http://www.loper-os.org/pub/bones/snsa_1_nov_2019.txt ; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
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