#ossasepia | 2019-10-28

Logged on 2019-10-27 17:04:29 asciilifeform: diana_coman: 2nd draft posted. (feedbot appears to be wedged??)

06:21

spyked

ftr, feedbot's xml parser has no postelisms, it parses xml prolog strictly as described in spec. so arbitrary chars before the prolog will be rejected and parsing will fail.

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07:42

spyked: it turned out indeed that asciilifeform's rss was broken there; no fault with feedbot for sure.

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08:25

spyked

yeah, I answered before digesting the full convo. it seems that complaints of service malfunction early in the morning have this effect of making me spring into action before fully waking up

08:31

spyked

http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-10-27#1007795 <-- this reminds me of younger self joining the dept at uni as teaching assistant and getting a look from one of the secretary ladies, followed by "oh, you're X's!" where X was one of the profs I was working with. view's well entrenched in ro mentality, someone had to bring me and mentor me there, no question about it.

08:31

Logged on 2019-10-27 19:27:53 diana_coman: traditionally nobody cared about surnames, it would always be literally, you are X of Y's (aka your father's ) and the usual question in villages goes exactly like that: whose are you?

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15:42

diana_coman: I will reiterate here my fuckup. I failed to open my mouth re missing my deadline w/ my post on V at the moment i wasn't 100% sure i'd finish on time. I tried to scramble and fix the post on the last day, but I knew I had to completely rewrite the post from the feedback i had received on my other posts for the week. In my attempt to put together the piece, I

15:42

pushed back my review/plan post. That lowered their quality. I also forgot to hit the publish button on my plan post until i woke up.

15:42

Logged on 2019-09-16 13:12:59 diana_coman: 1. the moment to open your mouth re deadlines is *as soon as you are not 100% sure you'll be on time*; and the VERY LATEST, 1 day before the deadline

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16:24

BingoBoingo

I suspect I missed something in the LAMP setup which is why pingbacks aren't firing. Will take a look this week.

16:25

trinque: belated ty re http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-10-26#1007641 . I expect I'll have questions on right things to learn when the time comes.

16:25

Logged on 2019-10-26 23:36:56 trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-10-26#1007554 << remember that it's an artifact, not a textbook. it's liable to teach you the wrong thing, possibly better off not touching it for now.

16:26

http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-10-27#1007798 - ha, that's the word I was looking for without realizing it.

16:26

Logged on 2019-10-27 19:29:46 diana_coman: certainly; and for that matter similar reason as to Russian patronymics, obviously.

16:30

spyked: I thought it was pretty cool that feedbot, at least from first glance, is parsing xml in lisp rather than binding to C libs like every other language I've seen does it. And I look forward to more reading time in your tarpit, once I'm a bit more unstuck from my own.

16:34

thimbronion

http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-10-27#1007684 << I believe I've made some progress here but I can't discuss it now as consulting will need to occupy all of my attention for the next 2 days or so.

16:34

Logged on 2019-10-27 16:52:48 thimbronion: diana_coman: ok I will spend some time to try to figure it out.

16:35

thimbronion

diana_coman: also things are in general a mess here in California with the power being out an school cancelled.

16:37

diana_coman: I noticed younghands.club/wp-includes/js/* are returning 403, which slows the page load and probably breaks some kind of admin functionality. I don't mind disabling JS on the whole domain - loads faster, more secure and all - though this would mean some gadgets like the word counter and autosave won't work

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17:11

I'll add that yesterday was a long Sunday; all my posts overflowed the time slots I'd arranged and I got 'em in just before the extended bell. Turning the WP article notes from plain text to something vaguely readable in HTML proved a particular pain. Plenty of incentive to avoid that happening again...

17:13

Gotta run for now.

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18:33

http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-10-28#1007809 - aham; why stop at 1 problem when you can snowball it into a whole mess, right? and admitting to it is one step but that's not going to do anything by itself for next time.

18:33

Logged on 2019-10-28 12:46:48 whaack: pushed back my review/plan post. That lowered their quality. I also forgot to hit the publish button on my plan post until i woke up.

18:35

http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-10-28#1007818 - take the time to figure things out, because unless/until you do that, the rest of the motions by themselves won't help, no.

18:35

Logged on 2019-10-28 13:39:43 thimbronion: diana_coman: also things are in general a mess here in California with the power being out an school cancelled.

18:37

http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-10-28#1007819 - right you are; I generally run with js disable so didn't even notice; the mp-wp on yh is stripped down really and js stuff was discarded indeed (eg tinymce iirc);

18:37

Logged on 2019-10-28 13:41:32 jfw: diana_coman: I noticed younghands.club/wp-includes/js/* are returning 403, which slows the page load and probably breaks some kind of admin functionality. I don't mind disabling JS on the whole domain - loads faster, more secure and all - though this would mean some gadgets like the word counter and autosave won't work

18:40

http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-10-28#1007820 - lol, follow the incentives!

18:40

Logged on 2019-10-28 14:16:24 jfw: I'll add that yesterday was a long Sunday; all my posts overflowed the time slots I'd arranged and I got 'em in just before the extended bell. Turning the WP article notes from plain text to something vaguely readable in HTML proved a particular pain. Plenty of incentive to avoid that happening again...

18:41

guten tag diana_coman . got 5min ?

18:45

asciilifeform: I literally just got at the comp, still catching up on logs and everything else; if it burns though, I'm listening.

18:45

not burns.

18:45

can do after catch up.

18:45

whaack: wtf is that link you gave in this comment ?

18:47

as jfw correctly points out, it's not even the right link nor the original link; and I'll add to that: it's not even a proper link at all, it's a monster you made out of mixing stuff you use like an idiot without even looking at it.

18:49

whaack: read the fucking manual as many times as you need so you KNOW IT before you get your fingers in all sorts; and then go through your blog and comments and *everything* and fix so you use the correct selection format *everywhere*; keep track and write the report of this mess.

18:49

talking of snowballing messes.

18:50

diana_coman: investigating & reading

18:52

whaack: don't use stuff without as much as reading the manual or you'll end up writing reviews of your refrigerator's manual and publishing pics of its internals at most, what programming and such things.

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19:25

diana_coman: Yes it was incredibly stupid to just take MP's comment literally without doing any investigation of how the selection mechanism works. I added fixing my understanding of html linking to my task list for the week, for now I need to return to saltmines.

19:26

diana_coman: plz join #a when you get a chance (my logger there will continue to function, it aint mp-powered), imho my q for you is offtopic in #o.

19:28

asciilifeform: I'm in #

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in #asciilifeform

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19:59

dorion: re footnotes 1 and 2 - it's totally fine, no worries; and it does the job well too, we'll talk tomorrow evening.

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20:50

jfw: "At least for one stage Robinson guessed 1.5h, I guessed 7, both ran way over" - ahahaha, this is good for the quotes collection. The sad part of it though being of course that both of you have in fact sane (and experience-revealing, hence the difference) estimates for what the whole thing should be; but there's not enough sane around for the estimates to work even when tempered by some experience.

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21:24

PeterL

diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log I get broken picture icon for "young hands" and "ossasepia" at the top of the page, is that expected?

21:24

PeterL: I don't have any icons for either really so yes, there's no pic.

21:27

PeterL

in the source it looks like there is a img src="/static/yh.jpg"

21:30

PeterL: yes, I changed the source but no, there is still no pic because no pic & bottom of the pile in terms of priority

21:31

that being said, if anyone in younghands wants to make a pic, speak up people, it's the place where you write too!

21:42

shinohai

oldhands.club, when?

21:43

shinohai: lol; you interested or what?

21:44

shinohai

keks, my days pretty full at moment as shitcoin warrior and smattering of projects. eulora ebuild still not off table for me when minigame.biz returns and I can ensure integrity of sources I have stashed away.

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22:18

!o uptime

22:18

diana_coman: time since my last reconnect : 20d 1h 7m

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22:48

http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-10-28#1007805 - spyked, for the life of me, I can't call those secretaries at upg "ladies" lolz; you really are too polite.

22:48

Logged on 2019-10-28 05:35:52 spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-10-27#1007795 <-- this reminds me of younger self joining the dept at uni as teaching assistant and getting a look from one of the secretary ladies, followed by "oh, you're X's!" where X was one of the profs I was working with. view's well entrenched in ro mentality, someone had to bring me and mentor me there, no question about it.

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