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← 2019-10-09 | 2019-10-11 → ↓
01:43 whaack got ztkfg.com to a hello world state. off to bed.
01:56 lobbes grr seems my logger is missing a single line from #ossasepia from a few days ago. Will need to hunt this down at some point
~ 2 hours 15 minutes ~
04:11 jfw http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-10-09#1004867 - at risk of stating the obvious, the theme is new. Poking at it a bit, I see on some pages (http://younghands.club/2019/09/week-12-plan-sep-30-oct-6/) the comment form stretches outside the background box and there's a gap above the footer background image; but not so on other pages
04:11 ossabot Logged on 2019-10-09 12:06:39 diana_coman: I've restored from own backup and as far as I can see there's no loss; let me know if you spot any trouble though
04:11 jfw (http://younghands.club/2019/10/review-of-sept-29th-oct-9th/)
04:17 jfw More practically, I see from archive there used to be a "Written by" at the top. And, goodness, something is spilling all over in http://younghands.club/category/shreyas_ragavan/
04:20 jfw http://archive.is/xAWMs - same as what I'm seeing. Looks fine in 'links' though!
04:22 jfw http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-10-08#1004844 - it sure is :[
04:22 ossabot Logged on 2019-10-08 07:15:48 diana_coman: the avoidance by hard work; it's a thing too.
~ 3 hours ~
07:22 diana_coman thimbronion: ask that Mia to register a key and come here, what; she's interested in finance after all, isn't she? invite her over.
07:23 diana_coman jfw: those were some tweaks to the theme I recall; it's somewhere down the list but yes.
07:35 diana_coman whaack: well done, looking forward to seeing your blog back + travel posts & pics later today.
07:36 diana_coman lobbes: let me know if you want me to dump somewhere that cobbled-up awk script from when I hunted a line; I don't even recall directly the state of it but problem was solved.
07:36 diana_coman lobbes: and happy 32nd birthday!
~ 37 minutes ~
08:14 diana_coman apparently the easiest re younghands.club theme is to simply switch it over to the "classic" that I was using on my blog too; so now it looks like ossasepia did, lolz.
08:14 diana_coman it will do for now.
08:15 diana_coman btw if any of you is any good making a wordpress theme, speak up.
~ 4 hours 18 minutes ~
12:33 whaack http://ztkfg.com/ is alive again. for some reason i do not have the format toolbar on adding a new post, and uploading images (via the web interface) does not work. These are both problems i was traveling, so it leads me to believe i have some issue with htaccess files on my new server.
~ 20 minutes ~
12:54 whaack these are both problems i had while traveling*
12:56 diana_coman whaack: the html format was never really supported by mp-wp; is that what you're looking for?
12:56 diana_coman I think billymg cut it out entirely in the last patch too so probably if you pressed all the way to it, there is none of that
12:57 diana_coman whaack: why upload them via the web interface anyway? scp is surely faster esp if you have a bunch of photos
12:59 whaack yup, no real need for uploading via the web interface. only useful aspect for the web interface is it i believe it automatically creates folders for archiving by date
13:01 whaack re html format not supported, okay cool. right i remember now billymg writing about getting rid of the gui.
13:02 diana_coman whaack: so make yourself a script that does that too, what
13:02 whaack then the last little issue i have is some css i have to get back since the code in http://ztkfg.com/2019/05/ch-22-hierarchical-data-and-the-closure-property/ overflows off the page
13:03 diana_coman that is theme-related but it can probably wait atm
13:04 whaack okay. i think the first order of business is creating the cron task for backing up my blog.
13:05 diana_coman whaack: what's your new IP?
13:06 whaack 198.211.113.164
13:07 diana_coman yep, that is a sensible no 1; and otherwise, it's precisely the ranking of stuff by importance that matters; not everything is just as important at any given time and your time is limited so it should be carefully spent rather than carelessly.
~ 53 minutes ~
14:01 diana_coman hello crowncloud
14:01 crowncloud Hey, just saw the email
14:01 diana_coman glad you made it crowncloud
14:02 diana_coman crowncloud: would you be able to register a key with deedbot? http://deedbot.org/help.html
14:03 crowncloud having a look now
14:03 diana_coman ask if you get stuck or anything
14:04 diana_coman whaack: stop flying, yo!
14:05 whaack heh XD
14:06 diana_coman crowncloud: it's a bit more than that but yes, it has wallet + invoicing + deeds + voice in #t
14:06 diana_coman you can talk here, there's no problem
14:06 crowncloud ah okay
14:07 diana_coman crowncloud: there will be quite a few people around here interested if you can make it work
14:07 crowncloud re: servers, currently we've got Intel Dual L5520's in stock
14:07 crowncloud with 72G RAM each
14:07 diana_coman crowncloud: would you be able to colocate?
14:08 diana_coman I saw you have datacentres in Europe and the USA?
14:08 crowncloud colocation currently we've got it available at Los Angeles, USA
14:09 diana_coman are you based in LA?
14:09 crowncloud no -- our datacenter partner is in LA :)
14:09 diana_coman ah, I see; I did think crowncloud was australian
14:10 diana_coman hello Metronix
14:11 Metronix Helli diana_coman, I here in responding to your email.
14:11 Metronix *hello
14:11 diana_coman Metronix: which company are you with?
14:11 Metronix Thanks for contacting metroworldhost.com
14:12 Metronix diana_coman: I am from metroworldhost.com
14:12 diana_coman ah, welcome Metronix, glad you made it; can you register a key with deedbot please? see http://deedbot.org/help.html
14:13 Metronix Sure things diana_coman. While I am registering to the deedbot. Would you mind if I asking you some questions in responding your email?
14:14 diana_coman Metronix: go ahead
14:17 diana_coman Metronix: ask anything
14:17 Metronix First, regarding to your questions about the AMD Dedicated Server, I need to inform you that the AMD processors is not available. we only have dedicated servers with Intel's processor.
14:18 diana_coman Metronix: all right; would you be able to colocate our own servers though?
14:22 Metronix Regarding colocation server, we are sorry to inform you that for this time colocation service is not available yet.
14:23 Metronix I will let you know when it's ready
14:23 diana_coman Metronix: are you working towards it? when is it planned to become available?
14:24 diana_coman Metronix: if you register your key and hang around, there might still be something working out.
14:24 Metronix Yes, I am working towards it. Our current collocation space is full for this time and I need to order more racks in by the next months
14:25 diana_coman Metronix: ok; regarding the amd dedicated servers - would you be able to order them for us, if you don't have any?
14:25 diana_coman crowncloud: how's it going?
14:25 crowncloud ah just setup irssi now
14:26 diana_coman heh, nice.
14:26 crowncloud i'd rather use hexchat but then i'd need ZNC working. miight just do that instead
14:27 diana_coman fwiw I'm on irssi; but any way that works so you stay connected is fine with me.
14:27 Metronix Could you please tell me what is the specific specs that you need?
14:27 Metronix *processor spec
14:28 diana_coman Metronix: there are several machines and several people; atm you don't seem to have the capacity for what we want
14:29 diana_coman asciilifeform: mind giving Metronix your concrete specs for an amd box?
14:30 Metronix Yep
14:30 Metronix If you don't mind I will ask my partner for the AMD Servers
14:30 asciilifeform diana_coman: for which is this box to be use, diana_coman ? they had diff specs
14:31 diana_coman asciilifeform: I thought you wanted a box for yourself too? or not?
14:31 asciilifeform diana_coman: i wanted ~my~ box from uy, with FG, raid, that i personally built.
14:31 asciilifeform diana_coman: if you're buying for self, you should already know the specs ?
14:31 diana_coman asciilifeform: ok; so you are interested in colo only.
14:32 asciilifeform diana_coman: correct
14:32 diana_coman asciilifeform: yes, I know for self but there it's colo.
14:32 diana_coman heh, ok
14:32 Metronix I see
14:33 diana_coman Metronix: don't dispair, lol.
14:33 Metronix haha, I try to help if possible
14:33 asciilifeform diana_coman: if you need help to spec box for self & others, will help. keep in mind e.g. this.
14:33 ossabot (trilema) 2019-10-08 asciilifeform: diana_coman: here is how FGs went in machine, if this helps. if that space aint there (and in most boxes, in asciilifeform's experience, it aint) then can only put'em by e.g. forgoing raid card and using that space. or in 5in. disk slot (which most also lack.)
14:33 diana_coman Metronix: what do you have available for dedicated?
14:34 diana_coman asciilifeform: yes; atm though I'm snowed in with getting stuff back online + eulora, hence building a box took a back seat; I will ping though when I get to that, thank you.
14:34 asciilifeform diana_coman: your smg box was iirc this.
14:34 ossabot (trilema) 2018-02-05 asciilifeform: (1) 2.3GHz x 32core (Opteron 6376) RAM Installed: 256G RAM Max: 256G
14:34 diana_coman actually that's an idea, why not
14:35 diana_coman Metronix: that spec would work great ^
14:35 Metronix Here is the spec list which is ready for right now: https://metronix.co.id/member/cart.php?gid=14
14:36 Metronix 2.3GHz x 32core (Opteron 6376) RAM Installed: 256G RAM Max: 256G
14:36 Metronix ^ is it the required spec?
14:36 Metronix Let me check it to my partner
14:37 diana_coman Metronix: yes, that's the required spec.
14:38 Metronix Would you mind to wait? I will let you know if I got any good news
14:40 diana_coman Metronix: there's no rush at all; just register that key so that I know it's still you if you disconnect and otherwise if you can leave the chat on, it would work great
14:41 diana_coman not everybody is at their keyboards right now but people read the logs.
14:41 Metronix Okay
14:41 Metronix I am learning to create the key
14:41 Metronix Please wait..
14:42 Metronix I launch a VPS to generate a gpg key lol
14:42 diana_coman Metronix: that's not a very good idea
14:42 diana_coman you need to *keep* the private key *safe* and *not lose it*
14:42 Metronix Ah I see
14:42 Metronix So I could generate it on my Windows PC?
14:42 diana_coman it is your identity as far as I'm concerned
14:43 diana_coman Metronix: you could, though it's a bit dubious that the pc is *yours* if you have windows on it
14:43 diana_coman but yes, use Kleopatra
14:43 Metronix Ah I see
14:43 diana_coman where was that link for the step-by-step thing even
14:43 whaack diana_coman: the airgapping guide?
14:44 diana_coman whaack: no, it was specifically to create a gpg key, iirc used for eulora
14:45 * whaack does not know of this guide
14:45 diana_coman Metronix: www.eulorum.org/Account_Setup
14:45 diana_coman heh, whaack ^
14:45 diana_coman Metronix: you need only to make the key from there, no need to register with eulora too (though you *can*, if you want to, lol)
14:45 diana_coman Metronix: otherwise just look for a tutorial for Kleopatra I guess
14:48 crowncloud_ hmm deedbot keeps saying "deedbot> Import failed for <url to public key>"
14:48 diana_coman crowncloud_: use paste.deedbot.org
14:49 diana_coman paste there the public key
14:49 diana_coman and give that url to deedbot
14:50 crowncloud_ mhm same thing, !!register http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=<my-id-here>
14:50 diana_coman crowncloud_: not your key id
14:50 diana_coman go to paste.deedbot.org paste in there your *public* key
14:50 crowncloud_ yup the .ssh/id_rsa.pub value right
14:51 Metronix Which one is the public key?
14:51 Metronix http://prntscr.com/phguh9
14:51 crowncloud_ make a backup of the key-pair, 1 will be .pub thats the one usually
14:52 diana_coman crowncloud_: the content of the .pub file e.g. http://wot.deedbot.org/E72DCCB73A5E06694C5CD781D5196EE6390F999E.asc
14:53 diana_coman Metronix: the .pub is for public aka yes, the public key; the other you should keep secret; and crowncloud_ is right, make a backup at the very least, lol.
14:53 diana_coman crowncloud_: can you give me the paste.deedbot url you are trying to feed to deedbot?
14:54 diana_coman crowncloud_: it should be something like paste.deebot.org/?id=O-6u
14:54 diana_coman aka 4 chars, not your key id
14:55 crowncloud_ ah yep got it, i was using the ssh public key haha generating a gpg one now
14:56 diana_coman crowncloud_: ha; gpg key, yes.
14:56 whaack Metronix: re your pic, the fingerprint does not need to be kept secret. It is a hash of your public key. My blog actually displays my fingerprint prominently under my handle http://ztkfg.com/
14:57 Metronix I see
14:57 Metronix I already get the public key
14:57 Metronix and the private key
14:57 diana_coman Metronix: keep the private key for yourself and yourself ONLY
14:58 Metronix Well noted
14:58 diana_coman with the public key, go to paste.deedbot.org and paste there the contents; it should start with ----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK as in http://wot.deedbot.org/E72DCCB73A5E06694C5CD781D5196EE6390F999E.asc
14:58 diana_coman once you paste it there, you'll get an url and you feed that to deedbot
14:59 Metronix !!register
14:59 diana_coman Metronix: to deedbot, not in here
14:59 diana_coman go /msg deedbot !!register your-url
15:00 Metronix deedbot 20:57:37
15:00 diana_coman Metronix: hm?
15:01 diana_coman Metronix: you did it, well done!
15:01 Metronix I am done registering
15:01 Metronix Yep, finally :))
15:02 diana_coman Metronix: how come you ran out of space in the dc, lol?
15:03 Metronix I am sharing space with my partner
15:04 Metronix And I need to wait for my partner to order more space
15:04 diana_coman Metronix: so who is your partner?
15:05 Metronix my own brother lol
15:05 diana_coman so then why have to wait? lol
15:05 diana_coman did it fill unexpectedly or what?
15:06 Metronix Recently we got so many order from a local company
15:06 Metronix They already book lot of space
15:06 diana_coman Metronix: that's good though, no/
15:06 diana_coman ?
15:06 Metronix including my brother company
15:07 diana_coman heh, he overflowed his own associate-isp or what
15:07 Metronix Indonesian data centre is very limited for this time
15:07 diana_coman Metronix: so do you have plans to expand further afield then?
15:07 Metronix I need to look up for a newer dc
15:07 Metronix yep
15:08 Metronix but still counting for the cost of expanding
15:08 diana_coman well, better look for them before you really need them urgently, by the sounds of it
15:08 diana_coman Metronix: that's no reason not to collect all the data and have a clear plan upfront though.
15:08 diana_coman Metronix: what data centre are you with currently?
15:09 Metronix Cyber Data Center Cyber Building 2nd Floor Jl. Kuningan Barat No.8 Jakarta Selatan 12710, Indonesia
15:09 Metronix That's my dc location
15:10 Metronix lot of hosting company right there
15:10 Metronix and the dc is a little bit crowded :))
15:10 diana_coman Metronix: for how long have you been with them?
15:10 Metronix since 2010 lol
15:10 Metronix I already know everyone on the dc.
15:11 Metronix by the way, I got to go
15:11 diana_coman in that time, I'd expect you do indeed.
15:11 diana_coman ok, feel free to leave the chat on and come back later
15:11 Metronix i will come back later
15:11 diana_coman the chan is logged too so you can catch up with anything anyway
15:11 Metronix it's already 9pm in Indonesia
15:11 diana_coman ah; good night then!
15:11 diana_coman crowncloud_: how's that rsa key making?
15:11 Metronix You could email me to ryo@metroworld.co.id
15:12 Metronix See you later
15:13 crowncloud_ yep all done
15:16 diana_coman crowncloud_: ah, you registered it from crowncloud_
15:16 diana_coman works for me
15:16 diana_coman I'll rate you a bit later today and then you'll have access to #trilema too
15:17 diana_coman crowncloud_: what dedicated servers do you have available and where?
15:17 crowncloud_ currently, we could do 2-3x of Intel Dual Xeon L5520 / 72 GB RAM @ Los Angeles, California
15:17 diana_coman los angeles is a bit iffy for sending machines really but I'll look into it anyway.
15:19 diana_coman crowncloud_: can you put gentoo with python 2.7 (NOT older) + gcc 4.9 (not older) on them?
15:19 crowncloud_ I could get you a KVMoverIP on it (remote-console thing with ISO mount support) and you can install any operating system on them you like :)
15:19 diana_coman crowncloud_: your site lists some servers in atlanta too; what's that?
15:19 crowncloud_ yeah Atlanta, Georgia, USA / US - East
15:20 diana_coman eh, my likes don't quite include another ton of operating systems really if I can help it
15:20 diana_coman atlanta might at least be closer to some people, I'll have to ask
15:20 crowncloud_ could do a Dual Intel Xeon E5620 @ 2.4Ghz / 12GB GB RAM
15:20 crowncloud_ there
15:21 diana_coman crowncloud_: for a current emergency it might work; what OS *can* you install on it so I don't have to do that too?
15:22 crowncloud_ We usually do the common ones like CentOS 6/7/8, Debian 8/9/10, Ubuntu 16.04/18.04/19.04/19.10
15:22 diana_coman ah, centos 6 can work for the emergency, yes.
15:22 diana_coman crowncloud_: can you get http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2018-02-05#1781749 ?
15:22 ossabot (trilema) 2018-02-05 asciilifeform: (1) 2.3GHz x 32core (Opteron 6376) RAM Installed: 256G RAM Max: 256G
15:24 crowncloud_ could something newer in AMD could work? AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2990WX ?
15:25 diana_coman crowncloud_: mind joining #trilema please? there's Mircea Popescu who wants to talk to you (he's the CEO of Minigame, among other things)
15:25 crowncloud_ benchmarks at 23163 vs 10405 of the Opeteron
15:25 diana_coman crowncloud_: reasons are complicated why I prefer older, not to do with benchmarks.
15:26 diana_coman crowncloud_: please join #trilema and we'll get back to this later; I'll probably take an Intel for now anyway.
15:26 crowncloud_ aha
15:26 crowncloud_ ok am there.
~ 2 hours 4 minutes ~
17:31 diana_coman asciilifeform: do you have anywhere/can I have an image of what you installed on the s.mg machines? as it's on older, frozen version of gentoo, I'm not sure I can reproduce it exactly otherwise.
17:34 asciilifeform diana_coman: i'ma look to see what is most recent backup of this
17:38 diana_coman fwiw I'm still digesting #t logs.
17:41 asciilifeform diana_coman: can you get BingoBoingo to plug in your smg box in his pad to access ? my backup here seems to be missing that tarball (it was huge, apparently got aborted during load) and as ill-luck has it, the other copy is on dulap disks, which i already had him mail...
17:42 asciilifeform diana_coman: it is also my understanding that hanbot has a copy.
17:43 asciilifeform diana_coman: and for some reason i thought you had already moved to proper cuntoo ?
17:43 diana_coman asciilifeform: no, it was proto-cuntoo, remember? the "proper cuntoo" didn't really move past the genesis & tarballs
17:43 asciilifeform grr
17:44 diana_coman asciilifeform: at any rate, there are 2 servers and the production one still carries all dependencies so it won't compile on cuntoo for sure
17:44 thimbronion http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-10-10#1004972 << will ask. I saw you recommended Kleopatra. Any other recommendations for getting noobs through the process on a windows machine?
17:44 ossabot Logged on 2019-10-10 03:22:29 diana_coman: thimbronion: ask that Mia to register a key and come here, what; she's interested in finance after all, isn't she? invite her over.
17:44 asciilifeform diana_coman: if it cannot be quickly found, i'ma rebake it for you from 0 for phree, plz lemme know.
17:44 diana_coman for the dev one, when I'm done trimming *all* mess, it should work, but still.
17:45 diana_coman asciilifeform: does it take a lot to rebake?
17:45 asciilifeform diana_coman: takes a day.
17:45 diana_coman thimbronion: what are *you* doing on a windows machine?
17:45 diana_coman asciilifeform: ugh.
17:45 diana_coman what do you rebake it from?
17:45 thimbronion diana_coman: I am not on a windows machine, she is.
17:46 diana_coman thimbronion: who? Mia?
17:46 asciilifeform diana_coman: gentoo 2015.
17:46 thimbronion diana_coman: yes
17:46 BingoBoingo diana_coman asciilifeform: I am willing a maneuver to help the OS image's recovery. Think of concrete instructions on how you want to get the image off. Mind that the speed at which data leaves my present connection over prolonged transfers is slow and prone to reset when Antel blinks me on to new IP address
17:46 diana_coman thimbronion: there is that tutorial on eulorum, I linked it earlier for one of the isp guys, that's about it
17:47 diana_coman thimbronion: kleopatra and gpg4win, usually even the most noobish people managed to follow but you might still need to hold her hand over it
17:47 diana_coman BingoBoingo: that's a bit last option , I'd say; thank you; atm I'm rummaging to see if I have any gentoo 2015
17:47 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: boot from stick (one that understands raid, bv's should work) and dd if=/dev/sda | gzip /mnt/aspare1tbssd/image.gz . then sftp to diana_coman's current temp box.
17:48 asciilifeform err, gzip -c
17:49 diana_coman I found a 2014, lol
17:53 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: That solution's going to have be done tomorrow at the earliest. Involves either wheeling box or acquiring some sort of monitor. Maybe be able to do it getting a cable to adapt it display to the tv. Absolutely NOT using the bv bootstick except as an absolute last resort.
17:53 diana_coman BingoBoingo: aha, don't do that please;
17:54 diana_coman hm, I have 2014 and I have 2016, lolz; anyway, I'll try to work with what I have.
17:57 * BingoBoingo also disinclined to power on servers in environment with long barely visible Latina hairs that appear about as fast as they can be swept.
18:01 * BingoBoingo can put servers at height above where here head maxes, but...
18:05 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: plox to try, it is almost certainly faster than the other options to help diana_coman
18:06 * asciilifeform curses the shit pipe again, this thing oughta 100% have been in the autobackup
18:06 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Willing to try, but at least a tomorrow task at the earliest
~ 19 minutes ~
18:26 diana_coman BingoBoingo: asciilifeform I would just leave it, really; I'll set it up on what I have and see how it works out since if it really doesn't, I might have a bigger problem anyway.
18:26 asciilifeform diana_coman: ok
18:26 diana_coman thank you, I really do appreciate the offer though.
18:26 diana_coman I'm a bit tired so it might not come across properly but I do.
18:26 asciilifeform diana_coman: offer stands, plox to ping asap if needed so i can begin preparation
18:27 diana_coman thanks, I will.
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18:49 asciilifeform hey diana_coman i found it
18:49 asciilifeform diana_coman: do you want it ?
18:50 asciilifeform diana_coman: i'ma upload to ancient host, but may take hr or so
~ 18 minutes ~
19:08 diana_coman asciilifeform: yes!
19:08 asciilifeform diana_coman: uploaded ! writing instructions nao
19:08 diana_coman thank you.
19:10 asciilifeform ( afaik no one other than myself has fired this thing, so i'ma have to explain how )
19:12 diana_coman please do, yes.
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19:32 asciilifeform proofreading instructions, will post shortly.
19:42 asciilifeform diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-10#1944670 .
19:42 ossabot (trilema) 2019-10-10 asciilifeform: !!deed http://www.loper-os.org/pub/dulap_construction_kit.txt
19:42 asciilifeform diana_coman: tarball url inside.
19:43 diana_coman I'll get on it, thank you asciilifeform
19:43 asciilifeform np diana_coman . please do not hesitate to ask q, the instructions were written hastily and may contain mistake.
19:43 diana_coman will do.
19:44 diana_coman I might get to follow them tomorrow only, with a fresh(er) mind.
19:44 asciilifeform aite.
19:52 asciilifeform diana_coman: i neglected to include 'regen yer ssh hostkey' but imho this is obvious to ~erryone.
19:52 diana_coman at least everyone here, hopefully yes.
19:54 asciilifeform diana_coman: it is possible to 'emerge' packages on a machine filled with this. but under no circumstances run 'emerge --sync' .
19:55 diana_coman asciilifeform: aha.
19:55 asciilifeform diana_coman: packages for whom the mirrors have fallen down , can be taken from trinque's collection and placed in /usr/portage/distfiles , and will then emerge.
19:55 asciilifeform dulap-gentoo is a wartime creation and considered -- obsolete. but i have been using it.
19:56 diana_coman I think by now *that* might be just about the only potential trouble really; ie if some needed package meanwhile became unobtainable.
19:56 asciilifeform diana_coman: do not hesitate to ask for tarballs that for some reason cannot be found in trinque's, i will pull'em from tapes.
19:56 diana_coman will do.
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20:16 diana_coman thimbronion: what's your plan re yuour blog, I don't recall?
20:18 thimbronion diana_coman: the plan was to have it back up by Sunday eod. I have retrieved my backups, so things are looking good. I'm probably going to put it on digitalocean for now, until I can find something better.
20:19 diana_coman thimbronion: ok; just remember that Sunday eod is also deadline for the plan + review anyway.
20:19 asciilifeform diana_coman: i am considering to house 4u of irons incl. new rk plant experimentally in bmor at own risk & expense. will see whether anyone wants in, otherwise will e.g. trb.
20:20 thimbronion diana_coman: I ran into an issue while pressing mp-wp: http://paste.deedbot.org/
20:21 diana_coman thimbronion: you forgot the actual paste?
20:21 thimbronion diana_coman: yes, it is getting a bit tight to be getting the blog up, writing a new plan and review, and finishing the summary review on Sunday.
20:21 thimbronion diana_coman: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=mch3
20:22 diana_coman thimbronion: are you using a keccak V?
20:23 diana_coman because that looks like you are not.
20:23 thimbronion diana_coman: I am not
20:23 diana_coman all vpatches currently in use are meant to use keccak hashes.
20:23 diana_coman thimbronion: do you have a keccak V?
20:24 thimbronion diana_coman: I don't
20:24 diana_coman asciilifeform: why didn't you want to do that when mp asked but you want to do it now? I'm confused; maybe I still did not digest the #t logs.
20:25 asciilifeform diana_coman: he wanted whole cabinet. i cannot cover cost of cabinet + pipes to cabinet's worth of machines atm.
20:25 diana_coman but the way I read it, you weren't meant to personally cover it anyway; and the "asked" was esp re list of items because now it seems you actually have at least 4u of irons, possibly more?
20:26 asciilifeform diana_coman: it is very easy to obtain irons. the part where barf is 'here's pile of btc, convert it to what dc eats.' presently i do not have a reliable means for this.
20:27 asciilifeform diana_coman: if/when can find this missing instrument, can get rack, or even multiple racks.
20:27 asciilifeform diana_coman: but atm i cannot attest to the quality of this machine park, it has to be tested .
20:28 asciilifeform there is only 1 way to test.
20:28 whaack thimbronion: lmk if you have any issues with setup on digitalocean. I used ubuntu 18, the default mysql from apt-get, and php5.6
20:28 diana_coman I suspect you sometimes barf a bit too early really; and can't quite expect one confronted with barf to then also wait for what might follow.
20:29 diana_coman whaack: yuuuuuck
20:29 diana_coman whaack: I suppose you also installed latest wordpress though, didn't you?
20:29 asciilifeform diana_coman: i'ma proceed w/ reconnaissance by fire re bmr , at own risk.
20:29 whaack no, using mpwp
20:30 diana_coman asciilifeform: I get it; just... it so seems you are making it harder for yourself at every juncture, sigh.
20:30 diana_coman whaack: ok, at least that.
20:31 whaack i didn't use any of their one-click things through their web portal, although apt-get is ~same thing
20:31 diana_coman yeah and ubuntu 18 is already rather dog-food but anyways.
20:32 thimbronion diana_coman: can you point me to where I can get a keccak v?
20:32 diana_coman thimbronion: let me upload it to younghands.club
20:32 whaack i think ubuntu 16 was the earliest version they had
20:32 diana_coman it used to live on my blog, sigh.
20:33 whaack i considered going with centos, but i have not used it before and didn't want to get stuck during desperate times
20:37 diana_coman whaack: that makes sense at least, yes.
20:37 diana_coman and on looking again I think I read "python" instead of php hence ultra-barfed on the version.
20:37 whaack LOL
20:40 whaack i guess it is not inconceivable that reddit would have reached some v5.6 for python by now
20:42 diana_coman thimbronion see http://younghands.club/v-trees/
20:42 diana_coman anyone else interested, the v_keccak starter zip + my sig for it is ^
20:45 thimbronion diana_coman: thanks
20:55 thimbronion diana_coman: I'm unable to build gprbuild on my gentoo: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=Rf_N. I'm wondering if you've run into this before?
20:58 thimbronion oh hmm. actually that just means I neede to pick a use flag...
21:00 thimbronion Is there a preference between gnat_2016 and gnat_2017?
21:00 diana_coman thimbronion: no, you need a gnat,lol
21:00 diana_coman thimbronion: go with 2016
21:00 diana_coman it's anyway not fully sure it will work properly since it's probably not adacore's
21:00 diana_coman dang, I'll have to upload *that* too,won't I
21:04 diana_coman thimbronion: go with 2016 and see
21:07 * diana_coman will be back tomorrow
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