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08:43 diana_coman lobbes: did you ever saw the questions/feedback of yesterday?
08:56 lobbes diana_coman: where was this again? blog or in a castle? If you point me, I will read
08:56 lobbes or perhaps already read!
09:05 diana_coman here; not yet in the logs as the bot was not yet on
09:05 diana_coman lemme fish it out
09:06 diana_coman 11:36 diana_coman: lobbes, looking through your http://blog.lobbesblog.com/category/reporting/ posts there are 2 things that strike me: 1. some seem to just slip off without clarity as to what happened/what's your decision there (e.g. pizarro ads - did you hit a wall with it? did you postpone it (when/what)? did you abandon it? what exactly is it and from what specific causes?) 2. it doesn't seem all that clear/pointed anywhere: how do yo
09:20 lobbes ty, this is exactly the feedback I seek. Yes, I think you have a point there. I have this habit of not being clear in both my causes, and my results it seems
09:21 diana_coman lobbes: did the above get cut? or is it just the logger?
09:21 diana_coman it read: clear/pointed anywhere: how do you choose your hopper items anyway?
09:22 lobbes it was indeed cut
09:22 diana_coman kk; at least no bug to report re logger, heh.
09:24 lobbes re: how do I choose... I think I try and go with whatever seems the 'most pressing need for the republic that I can also do with the skills I have'
09:24 lobbes but perhaps I need to refine my choosing methods here. problem with the pressing need qualifier is that needs are always changing by nature
09:26 diana_coman aha; and that you keep the whole thing entirely out of yourself which is not that good for building yourself up
09:27 diana_coman basically yes, answer the trumpet calls by all means but that shouldn't be *all* you do
09:28 lobbes this is very true. I guess I have trouble knowing when I should ignore certain calls
09:28 lobbes and when I should just stick to what I'm currently working on
09:29 diana_coman the 1st point is to build yourself up as roundely as possible (and as a side effect this will inevitably *also* position you in a much better place to help/answer pressing needs)
09:31 diana_coman I don't know if it's about ignoring really, I wouldn't go that far; but for one thing pressing needs can't really make for a full, sane path just in themselves, it's a bit like living for emergencies only
09:31 lobbes this makes sense
09:31 diana_coman and for the other thing offering is not just a "good intentions" thing - it's a commitment
09:32 diana_coman for that matter it's rather easy to end up in hot soup *because of * good intentions (that were just that, wanted to but had poorly evaluated/bit more than could chew)
09:32 lobbes yeah, I think the Inca state likes to breed this sort of "a good worker says yes to *everythin*" kind of toxic thinking
09:33 diana_coman there is some space for "bit sligthly more so as to motivate and advance faster" but it has to be still a considered choice I'd say
09:33 lobbes yeah, that's kind of it too. I figured that I need to grow, so I'd challenge myself. Buuut I don't think I thought things through enough in most cases
09:34 diana_coman quite possibly yes, I can see that (a combination of "saying yes is easy" + "no real consequences if not delivering" + "works means sort of ")
09:35 diana_coman growth yes, but it has to build on where you are, it can't just jump 10 levels up all of a sudden "because that's what's needed right now"
09:35 lobbes speaking of work that has no real consquences of not delivering, I got to head to the mines. BUT thank you very much already for helping me think through this stuff. It is appreciated
09:35 lobbes and yeah, realistic growth is the key, huh
09:36 lobbes I will be reading these logs now that they exist!
09:36 diana_coman in other words: the world (and tasks) is not flat and if you don't even see the mountain, it just means you are actually ...underground, not yet at ground level even
09:36 diana_coman kk
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10:39 shrysr diana_coman: i see some glimpses of the mountains from my underground lair
10:44 diana_coman shrysr: so come out to the light! heh
10:47 shrysr trying to! what did lobbes mean by heading to the mines ?
10:48 diana_coman shrysr: he went to his place of employment aka "the mines" ; also known as "the slave galley"
10:49 diana_coman if you are not familiar with it, salt mines (and rock quaries or similarly hard labour) was done with convicts mainly/only
10:49 diana_coman you call your salt mines "the office" iirc
10:50 shrysr ah. I did not know it was done mainly/only with convicts
10:51 diana_coman european history; USA equivalent would be cotton-picking (aka slave labour, obv)
10:53 shrysr :D yes i do call it the office/.
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14:57 shrysr diana_coman: did you get a pingback notification?
14:59 shrysr I see you got my earlier pingback for http://ossasepia.com/2018/03/30/my-first-2-years-as-cto-for-minigame/ ... did you get another just now ?
15:02 asciilifeform shrysr: 'salt mine' is traditional parlance for where (usually) programmer does ultimately pointless, backbreaking sweat, so as to pay for food/flat. (an especially odious saltmine may be next level, 'gulag', see e.g. .)
15:16 diana_coman shrysr: no notification of it at least; also no notification of your post - did you change your rss link for posts and/or comments?
15:29 shrysr diana_coman: how about just now? its just a test, for another article
15:30 shrysr the rss may have changed.. right now it is http://s.ragavan.co/index.xml i tried this on my feedreader and it works
15:32 shrysr diana_coman: it should be working actually >> see my webmention linking on this post https://scripter.co/splitting-an-org-block-into-two/#webmentions
15:39 diana_coman shrysr: eh, so what, you imagine I jump and change every time you futz it about ?
15:39 * diana_coman will bbl
15:42 shrysr :( futz it about is so crude ... i am making it awsome ! wtffffffff
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17:13 diana_coman fff is for futz-futz-futz, obv
17:13 diana_coman but seriously, either you get the rss links to what they were or whatever, I'll see it when it happens.
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