| 2014-04-24 | fluffypony | someone eventually connects that the new company is owned by the other guy's brother-in-law...cue shitstorm of epic proportions, but they got away with it because laws. | #trilema |
| 2014-04-24 | fluffypony | fast forward 2 years and they "go bankrupt" and this new crowd that registered a business like a month ago "buys" all their existing contracts and databases and everything for $100 or something stupid | #trilema |
| 2014-04-24 | fluffypony | they exploded, dominated the scene as everyone referred their friends and all the home owners wanted tenants through them | #trilema |
| 2014-04-24 | fluffypony | there was a rental agency that had this awesome comm structure - find a tenant and you get half of their management fee for the lifetime of the tenant (they charge ~10% of the rent as a management fee) | #trilema |
| 2014-04-24 | fluffypony | otherwise after a year or two the company can "fold" and reopen to service all the old clients, cutting you out the loop | #trilema |
| 2014-04-24 | fluffypony | yeah | #trilema |
| 2014-04-24 | fluffypony | CheckDavid: there is actually some precedent - I have a very good friend who moved here from Sweden to sell industrial cleaning equipment/supplies. he knows the cost of the product, and dependent on the size of the sale he can offer a discount to the client. his comm is based on the "profit" in that it's (sales - cost of sales), so he won't offer a discount on small sales but might determine it worthwhile reducing his comm on a larger sale | #trilema |
| 2014-04-24 | fluffypony | I mean, I can understand if there's a fixed CoS and they're calling (CoS - Sales) "profit" | #trilema |
| 2014-04-24 | fluffypony | CheckDavid: based on gross profit or net profit? | #trilema |
| 2014-04-24 | fluffypony | goes back to the NSA convo from yesterday | #trilema |
| 2014-04-24 | fluffypony | there ya go :) | #trilema |
| 2014-04-24 | fluffypony | CheckDavid: go do some trades in -otc then? always good to have some historical ratings on the WoT | #trilema |
| 2014-04-24 | fluffypony | CheckDavid: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/04/11_bitcoin-assets-new-wot-and-voice-model.html | #trilema |
| 2014-04-24 | fluffypony | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1416262/Court-refuses-trial-by-combat.html | #trilema |
| 2014-04-24 | fluffypony | need a third espresso | #trilema |
| 2014-04-24 | fluffypony | also feeling a little bushed | #trilema |
| 2014-04-24 | fluffypony | mircea_popescu: morning | #trilema |
| 2014-04-24 | fluffypony | moiety: top o' the mornin' | #trilema |
| 2014-04-24 | fluffypony | FedEx is fast - 5-10 actual days tops | #trilema |
| 2014-04-24 | fluffypony | processing fee of R142.83, disbursement fee of R26.51, release fee of R2, all plus VAT | #trilema |
| 2014-04-24 | fluffypony | then | #trilema |
| 2014-04-24 | fluffypony | but it looks like they'll charge VAT | #trilema |
| 2014-04-24 | fluffypony | not sure what tariff heading they'll list it under | #trilema |
| 2014-04-24 | fluffypony | yeah, and a camera isn't electronics components, different tarriff heading | #trilema |
| 2014-04-24 | fluffypony | so you'll also have to pay their admin/documentation charges | #trilema |
| 2014-04-24 | fluffypony | CoinsForTech ship with FedEx (SupaSwift is the local agent) | #trilema |
| 2014-04-24 | fluffypony | but | #trilema |
| 2014-04-24 | fluffypony | yep | #trilema |
| 2014-04-24 | fluffypony | because PC components are classified by customs as "spare parts" | #trilema |
| 2014-04-24 | fluffypony | HeySteve: it depends on what electronics...typically for PC components it's just 14% VAT and a release fee (R15 - R30) | #trilema |
| 2014-04-24 | fluffypony | Naphex will enjoy that | #trilema |
| 2014-04-24 | fluffypony | nice | #trilema |
| 2014-04-24 | fluffypony | http://an7isec.blogspot.co.il/2014/04/pown-noobs-acunetix-0day.html | #trilema |
| 2014-04-24 | fluffypony | http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/23/justice/postal-worker-jailed-missing-mail/index.html | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | bed time, bye | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | hah hah | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | thank you kindly | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | asciilifeform: https://scontent-b-mxp.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/10169256_799974603356886_8876868538876731843_n.jpg | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | *credits out | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | mircea_popescu: plz sort creditsout noa | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | lol | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | can we file that with the "world class mathematicians" involved in every cryptocurrency-related project? | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | “My cofounder turned down a job at Google to focus on our company.” Translation: He applied for an internship a while back and it fell through. | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | http://pando.com/2014/04/23/startups-anonymous-things-founders-say-to-investors-that-are-complete-bs/ | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | BingoBoingo: likewise...I just find myself way too unproductive for the first ~4 hours after waking up if I'm hanging like a little bitch | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | good to hear :) | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | BingoBoingo: don't forget to hydrate | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | mike_c: the comments are a cesspool of stupidity..."Wow! Finally coin with the future!" | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | my favourite line in it: "This ensures lowest value of the coin, the exchange price will be different, most likely higher" | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=581679.0 <- new scamcoin called GuarantCoin, "100% backed by physical gold, every single coin has certain value in gold and can be exchanged for gold anytime" | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | http://abstrusegoose.com/strips/we_are_the_internet_resistance_is_futile.png | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | or a gf | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | thank goodness, I'd like to sleep tonight | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | oh lol | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | mircea_popescu: due today what time? | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | somalia is best somalia | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | hah hah | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | * | fluffypony plans pranks | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | lawl, wife has fallen asleep watching Numbers | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | kakobrekla: is that mirc? | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | lol | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | bounce: you never had a 3DFX Voodoo? | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | erk | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | ;;rate los_pantalones 1 hooked a brother up with some cleverness | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | I remember trying to watercool a peltier cooler on my Pentium | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | that's awesome | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | but sure, in 5-10 years when GPUs are all mini-PCI-e size, it's different | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | kakobrekla: well, it's also a cheaper proposition - our market isn't only people-with-$$$, the BOINC/Folding@Home crowd need better cooling than 20cm fans in an ATX case but they can't afford / don't want to spend money on water cooling or mineral oil immersion | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | Mats_cd03: Neo & Bee | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | as long as that wave is 5+ years and not 6 months | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | kakobrekla: that's fine, I'm not aiming to create a massive company that will be around forever, quite happy riding a wave, making money, and letting it wind down as we transition to the next thing | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | makes more sense than Google translate: "Balauru means sin, priests prayers recommend to protect animals from Greyhound" | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | lol | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | Naphex: translate plx, Google translate results are confusing | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | Mats_cd03: they say you never forget your first time | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | ;;ud dildotics | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | asciilifeform: ouch | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | some prefer to bend, some prefer to send, I don't judge | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | hah hah | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | mod6: I read that as "I shoot peasants" and I was like "ooooh, he must live in Australia" | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | #bitcoin-assets...making swinging...interesting since April, 2012 | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | hah hah | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | mircea_popescu: I have, then I married a vegetarian, now I have to do it on the sly | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: we're literally 20kms from Jukani - http://www.jukani.co.za | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | BigBitz: so many awesome safari places near us and up near Kruger park, so for definite let me know :) | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | mircea_popescu: you should see where the comment thread went to from there, that guy was an idiot | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | mircea_popescu: yeah that quote broke my brain | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | BigBitz: let me know if you want to come, you can take a turn past us and we can see how many bottles of wine we can get through | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | * | fluffypony has wine | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: so then come to glorious South Africa! | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | do not want | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | da fuq | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | benkay: sharpie in pooper = warm storage? | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | I'll sort them out | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | find someone to relocate them to South Africa | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | sucks | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: are they locals or did some relocate there? | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | I swear, all you need is a whitepaper and a few media interviews | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | https://blockchain.info/address/1KHfLixa2idRnZXMUfEisBati1vpywaH6E <- MaidScam raised 6240 BTC so far | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | and then we spend all the money and don't do anything | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | basically everyone sends funds to a Bitcoin address, and then we convert that to SateliteCoinz that we give them | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | we'll call it "Proof of Launch" | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | let's write a whitepaper and raise funds | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | lol | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | mircea_popescu: maybe Amazon can just arrange for the CubeSat to be delivered into space by quadcopter | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | BingoBoingo: must we type quietly? | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | early attempts were "just watch the blockchain", but altcoins implementations are so ridiculous | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | Naphex: yeah I know, I struggled with the dynamics for a while before settling on "just poll the daemon" | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | (listreceivedbyaddress shows a "running total", of sorts, so you have to know what the previous value was to spot that it's changed, but that's trivial" | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | and once an amount is available in an address for the minimum number of confs it's in the json | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | so we poll that | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | Naphex: getting back to what you were saying - listreceivedbyaddress <minconf=1> <includeempty=false> | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | thanks for all the input everyone | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: ok cool, I'll start reworking | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | Naphex: have you worked with listreceivedbyaddress at all? | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | Naphex: sure, but we aren't watching transactions | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: so then would it be better to 1. keep everything in but stagger the funding (eg. 100k now, another 100k when X milestones reached, etc.), or 2. take stuff out and then seek further funding later | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | * | fluffypony ponders | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | Naphex: doesn't matter, we're expecting 0.5 to address X, not to the "wallet" as a whole | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: appreciate the input, I'll work a bit more on splitting it out | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | Naphex: we watch the address for the amount requested; if it appears we know it's paid, if it doesn't (wrong amount, too late) we can't "contact the client" to let them know - they have to contact us and say "ohai, I screwed up" | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | Naphex: if someone makes a late payment, for eg.? | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | doesn't have to be completely fresh | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | Naphex: kind-of - a payment is only possible for 15 mins, so an address can be re-used every few hours | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: because I've done most of the underlying work, it's just front-end crap that needs to be done | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | Naphex: not a chance | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | mrstickball: the frames etc. | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | Naphex: yes | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | separate the entities | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | ok so then I split it out | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | the exchange can be required to KYC us as the depositer | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | we aren't required (right now) to KYC to receive crypto | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | well | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | oh AML | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: if a country banned inter-crypto trades that would affect the exchange primarily? | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: https://www.cryptsy.com/coinvotes - get them to add it there and you can buy votes :-P | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: I would write them a strongly worded letter! | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | this is between us and the exchange | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | the coins are already confirmed on our side | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | Naphex: how? they don't have our privkey to double-spend | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | before they're confirmed, yes | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | *back to 0 | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | when the deposit confirms on the exchange it goes 0 ATC | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | when the trade happens our account on the exchange goes -100 ATC +0.5 BTC | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | in other words | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | eventual consistency :-P | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | if the send fails we go into negative that is caught up later | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | they do the trade the second we initiate the send | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: it's not 0-conf to us, it's 0-conf between us and them | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | ok cool | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | 35% | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | first sentence under Company Structure | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | "OpenRigs is member of the GearTribe group of companies, of which Riccardo Spagni is one of the group directors" | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | I'll double check | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | I did at the beginning I think | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: yes | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | and a bunch of other companies | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | benkay: no - the GearTribe Group, has a 5% stake in OpenRigs | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: the Bee was only for the .ee domain hack | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | benkay: I draw a salary at a group level | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | yeah, so that's placeholder branding then :-P | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | I'll get the designer to rethink it | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | lol | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: yes - I've got deeper numbers on that that I can include, didn't know if it would be info overload | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | we could probably negotiate wire fees with our bank's Forex dept., but I still think we'd be paying a penalty | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | Naphex: local exchange has 10BTC daily volume, so we'd have to do BitStamp -> us -> international wire | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | stay in crypto and we can pretty much do whatever we want | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | so the minute we go into fiat we become a financial services provider | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | Naphex: nope - official stance from the SARB (reserve bank) is - "Bitcoin has no legal status or a regulatory framework." | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | here it's a ball-ache | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | we'd have to register as a financial services provider and a deposit taking institution | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | Naphex: then we have regulatory issues to deal with | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | it's just been my experience that customers get excited about the most arbitrary stuff | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | we have both | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | ok | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | pic of one of the postcards there | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | https://forum.feathercoin.com/index.php?/topic/6014-openrigs-review-lulz/ | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | * | fluffypony nods | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | mike_c: TimeKoin? :-P | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: no, I know one of the guys that is involved with it, but no affiliation beyond that | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | because they're not bound by the confines of "what is the most profitable" bullshit | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | in fact, there's more experimentation with stuff like that being done by the OCLHashCat guys than in the mining community | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: scrypt-n and X11 based coins will still need miners, and the BOINC/Folding@Home crowd will need it to | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: how else do you do it then? as an LoC? | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | *occurances | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: I changed that to "apportioning net profit" later, forgot to search for earlier occurancess | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | it was more in terms of avoiding scammy pre-orders (mitigating risk) in that space | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | fair enough | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | I can make that clearer in the proposal | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | I don't want to "grow the farm" | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: I like getting stuck into the technical stuff with it, sure, but it *is* a means to an end | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | ok | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | * | fluffypony notes | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | benkay: yes, but when you're mining scamcoins and dumping them it's always reasonably profitable :-P | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: it's from here - http://shrinkthatfootprint.com/average-electricity-prices-kwh | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | but GPU mining yes, I have a few years of historical data | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | ASICs certainly aren't, better to flip them | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | I can add that | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | just not full of numbers | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | not hiding it, it's mentioned and detailed, and even obvious in the graph | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | or whether I'll end up explaining why so much it'll be pages of cruft | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: it's purposely light on numbers, I'm not sure whether including all the data on the downward slump inspires investor confidence | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | benkay: we weren't able to, the dude that rents them is dumb and only lets you observe, not take actual data (although with the new camera he has apparently he'll give us pics and data after) | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | benkay: we did FLIR imaging when designing, we're waiting for the FLIR camera to be available for rent again so we can have that data accessible | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: point | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | ok good point | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | * | fluffypony ponders | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | cooling containers? | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: not so much on the frames side, they're too small to mention, but for PayBee yes | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | Naphex: yes exactly | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | Naphex: the whole point of PayBee is *not* to do fiat directly, tho - once the funds are in BTC it goes straight into the merchant's Bitpay account | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: yep | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | they were just the most willing to make the API changes we needed and they have the volume | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | Naphex: Cryptsy, but it's fairly agnostic to the exchange | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: as in "opened for business", will rephrase | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | ah good point | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | not enough BFL | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | MtBee? | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | meh, branding is easy to change on that | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | I didn't think of it that way | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | lol | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | but did everything else | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | benkay: pretty much everything you suggested, I kept PayBee in as I don't want to split it out into an entity on its own just yet | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | ThickAsThieves: that's exactly it, it's a means to an end | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | (bearing in mind it's a fiat business, not a BTC business per se, so it's not meant to compete with a pure BTC business) | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | https://openrigs.com/download/proposal.pdf | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | if anyone has a few mins I'd like a sanity check before I send it out to interested people | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | I'm looking for a bit of seed funding to expand and grow OpenRigs, benkay took a looksie at a previous version of my proposal and made some suggestions (which I've incorporated) | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | ok so | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | encrypted HAM? | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | I think if they haven't signed in to iCloud/iMessage from an iOS device it takes them off the active list or whatevs | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | and it doesn't offer the blue iMessage option or anything any longer | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | I have a friend that switched from iOS to Android in October | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | benkay: ok no wait that's not right | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | yeah, I resigned myself to sacrificing all measure of privacy the minute I got my Nokia N95 and realised all the crap that could go on in the background | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | * | fluffypony chuckles | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | that's when they "surprise" you with a visit to your house, right? | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | hah hah | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | * | fluffypony shudders at the thought | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | moiety: WhatsApp is the worst with that..."I see the message got delivered because there's a second tick...are we fighting now that you're not replying?" | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | but I had that exact argument with an ex-gf in my mid-20s | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | benkay: yeah, one of the reasons why I married my wife was because she wasn't full of shit like that (full of shit in other ways, but not pedantry/jealousy like that) | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | lol | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | well I suppose it's better than the "how come when you messaged that you love me you only put 2 exclamation marks when I put 4?" argument | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | * | fluffypony fires up some muzaks | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | Eric Clapton and BB King kinda night | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | cool I'll give that a spin, tks benkay | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | benkay: didn't know that - but doesn't the form need to have a dedicated PDF-compliant signature block to use that? | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | save and send | #trilema |
| 2014-04-23 | fluffypony | copy and paste into doc, resize and position | #trilema |