Show Idle (>14 d.) Chans
← 2014-12-21 | 2014-12-23 → ↓
00:00 thestringpuller he not here
00:06 BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2014/12/preet-bharara-keep-politics-out-of-ulbricht-defense/
00:06 assbot Preet Bharara: Keep Politics Out of Ulbricht Defense | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1AW9SeN )
00:06 asciilifeform carpal tunnel brick << in russian work camps, inmates found many creative ways to self-mutilate in effort to avoid work
00:06 asciilifeform (piece of dynamite in boot, in glove; etc)
00:06 asciilifeform that was how i read this thread at first glance.
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00:40 TheNewDeal ;;bc,stats
00:41 gribble Current Blocks: 335321 | Current Difficulty: 3.945767130713873E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 336671 | Next Difficulty In: 1350 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 19 hours, 11 minutes, and 59 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 36188326324.6 | Estimated Percent Change: -8.2857
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01:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 4167 @ 0.0012 = 5.0004 BTC
01:04 fluffypony incredible photo of a cop beating a black man in New York: http://i.imgur.com/H3NPEbi.jpg
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01:04 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1wUzvgG )
01:07 cazalla fluffypony, looks like black man has cops queen so no, it's a black man beating a cop
01:07 fluffypony hah hah
01:08 cazalla pretty racist to suggest black man is losing simply because black
01:10 fluffypony cop sacrificed his queen to put his opponent in a vulnerable positio
01:11 cazalla black man has 14 pieces left, i think not
01:11 cazalla really needs to be renamed black man execute cops but we've had one of them past few days
01:12 cazalla or mebe cop really will beat him up after check mate
01:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00066494 = 8.2453 BTC [+]
01:14 TheNewDeal hahaha
01:15 BingoBoingo That cop doesn't have much time left at all
01:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00066494 = 6.4167 BTC [+]
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01:48 thestringpuller cazalla: is awake!
01:49 thestringpuller lolol
01:49 cazalla barely!
01:49 thestringpuller it's not that late there
01:49 thestringpuller what like 5pm?
01:49 thestringpuller 6?
01:50 cazalla almost 6pm, just teething kid wears you down
01:51 thestringpuller http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2pzzcl/demand_tomorrow_that_each_news_site_state/ << lol "Claims to NOT be owned by GAW Miners"
01:53 cazalla i know eh, it was amusing to see qntra name there
01:55 thestringpuller can't you put whiskey on the kids gums to prevent him from crying due to teething
01:56 BingoBoingo Come on, don't get the kid started too early
02:00 thestringpuller !b2
02:00 assbot Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3K3QFGP.txt )
02:00 thestringpuller !b 3
02:00 thestringpuller GRR
02:02 thestringpuller http://challengepost.com/software/zero-click-bitcoin-micropayments << lol
02:04 cazalla thestringpuller, i'm not willing to share my booze
02:05 thestringpuller not even with your son?
02:05 thestringpuller lolol
02:07 fluffypony thestringpuller: what's lol about that? reasonable use of an unused HTTP code, and I don't think that there's anything wrong with the plugin they've developed
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02:09 cazalla thestringpuller, when he's 18, legal age here, not 21 like the states, we start em young enough here as it is
02:14 thestringpuller fluffypony: Why not just implement as part of a paywall? I dunno it seems...unnecessary?
02:14 fluffypony it is part of the paywall
02:14 fluffypony the page showing the payment screen contains a 402 header in addition to the page
02:15 fluffypony and the Chrome plugin traps that header and makes the payment
02:15 thestringpuller I guess the plugin seems unnecessary.
02:15 thestringpuller I guess depends on what wallet you attach it to for "automated payment".
02:16 thestringpuller People get annoyed enough as is with the whole auto-payment stuff that happens with itunes "da autorenewal".
02:17 fluffypony sure
02:17 thestringpuller 402 with bitcoin address that resolves to 200 once payment is paid is neat as part of paywall.
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03:02 BingoBoingo !up antonosika__
03:03 antonosika__ I hope bitcoin-assets are doing nicely.
03:04 antonosika__ Is there a short summary of what has happend the last few months?
03:04 antonosika__ People losing interest over the bitcoin price?
03:06 antonosika__ gettrust mircea_popescu
03:09 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu is on vacation things haven't been going too poorly
03:10 antonosika__ great to hear.
03:11 antonosika__ I got a new setup so I'm fixing my auth. Thx for up:ing me
03:12 BingoBoingo Cool
03:13 thestringpuller ;;gettrust mircea_popescu antonosika__
03:13 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user antonosika__: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=antonosika__ | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=antonosika__ | Rated since: never
03:17 cazalla to get in that xmas spirit, be sure to watch the family favourite https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXw57HrQ250
03:17 assbot Ruldolph the five legged reindeer part 1 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1rc8Efr )
03:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5269 @ 0.00066494 = 3.5036 BTC [+]
03:42 thestringpuller !up antonosika__
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04:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1540 @ 0.0012 = 1.848 BTC
04:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.1141 = 1.141 BTC [+] {4}
04:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.00066494 = 3.8234 BTC [+]
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05:20 punkman http://www.pcworld.com/article/2858032/lenovo-recalls-more-than-500000-power-cords-due-to-spark-burn-risk.html
05:20 assbot Lenovo recalls more than 500,000 power cords due to spark, burn risk | PCWorld ... ( http://bit.ly/1wBtGVJ )
05:21 punkman http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/12/icann-e-mail-accounts-zone-database-breached-in-spearphishing-attack/
05:21 assbot ICANN e-mail accounts, zone database breached in spearphishing attack | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1wBtNRa )
05:25 punkman http://m.bbc.com/news/business-30555620
05:25 assbot Whistleblower reveals how fraud of Booking.com worked - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1wBtXrC )
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06:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1000 @ 0.0012 = 1.2 BTC
06:11 cazalla fkn lol http://i.imgur.com/s7ZgLgB.jpg
06:11 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/13viEFM )
06:14 fluffypony they don't look very indigenou
06:14 fluffypony *indigenous
06:14 undata the picture demonstrates how happy the white people are for the indigenous
06:15 fluffypony ah got it
06:15 punkman http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-22/captive-orangutan-has-human-right-to-freedom/5983440
06:15 assbot Captive orangutan Sandra has human right to freedom, Argentine court rules - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ... ( http://bit.ly/13vjqTj )
06:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00066528 = 8.8482 BTC [+] {2}
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06:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63100 @ 0.00066716 = 42.0978 BTC [+] {4}
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07:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 10105 @ 0.0012 = 12.126 BTC
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09:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13250 @ 0.00067436 = 8.9353 BTC [+]
09:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00066494 = 13.1658 BTC [-]
09:36 davout "Luke-Jr has left IRC (Excess Flood)" <<< the irony
09:37 fluffypony someone should change the default ircd builds on gentoo to include a spam filter
09:42 mircea_popescu !up jasonjuta
09:42 mircea_popescu hey there j.
09:42 mircea_popescu and hello all!
09:42 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo loved the article btw.
09:42 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Thank you.
09:43 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I left an easter egg in the article for asciilifeform
09:43 mircea_popescu jurov any chance reddit will get DERPified? << mebbe, i'dhave to look into it. if it does it won't be this year.
09:46 Adlai how about "F.NAST", evoking both the corporate relative, and the place's general smell
09:47 mircea_popescu i think nast sold.
09:47 mircea_popescu currently owned by some fraud vehicle basically.
09:49 thestringpuller oh lok
09:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 4100 @ 0.0012 = 4.92 BTC
09:49 mircea_popescu Adlai if anything it'd be s.advc or something. except they're insulated iirc, so...
09:50 Adlai advc?
09:50 mircea_popescu speaking of corporations without official headquarters.
09:50 Adlai and why would it be an S?
09:50 mircea_popescu Advance Publications, teh newhouse family thing.
09:50 Adlai ah
09:50 mircea_popescu all derps are s.
09:50 Adlai er aren't they D?
09:51 Adlai we both derped
09:51 mircea_popescu lol myeah
09:51 mircea_popescu oops :p
09:51 Adlai the fuckup fairy loves a threesome
09:52 * Adlai keeps reading http://www.thebaffler.com/salvos/crowdsourcing-scam
09:52 assbot The Crowdsourcing Scam - The Baffler ... ( http://bit.ly/1wegiBz )
09:53 thestringpuller oh its a mircea_popescu
09:53 mircea_popescu hey tsp
09:54 fluffypony pircea_momescu
09:54 thestringpuller dunno if reddit will ever be profitable long term. it's like borderline derp
09:56 mircea_popescu ;;google site:trilema.com pircea mopescu
09:56 gribble Cutremur in Costa Rica pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/cutremur-in-costa-rica>
09:56 mircea_popescu NOT NEW!
09:58 Adlai reddit will be rather profitable if they can increase by an order of magnitude the number of casual bitcoin dabblers, while watching their every breath, move, bond, and step
09:58 mircea_popescu unlikely.
09:59 mircea_popescu this is like saying that the spanish empire could be quite profitable if "it increases" the number of jews inhabiting it. for one thing, it's not the empire increasing it, for the other, they'll fuck it up
09:59 mircea_popescu because they don't have the mind in the right place.
09:59 Adlai they wouldn't be making money off the amount of wealth transfered, though. they'd be making money per successful ad targeting.
10:00 thestringpuller Adlai: their ad system is terrible.
10:00 mircea_popescu lolk,.
10:00 mircea_popescu they'd make money selling leavened bread to moses ?
10:00 mircea_popescu this plan that could possibly go wrong.jpg
10:00 thestringpuller why do that when you can just get mana from God?
10:00 Adlai s/will/could potentially, should they properly leverage their position etcetcblabla/
10:01 mircea_popescu these theoretical potentials, you know ? men could breastfeed if they leveraged their boobs.
10:01 thestringpuller uh?
10:01 mircea_popescu pigs could fly if only they batted their ears fast enough!
10:01 thestringpuller ^- i think you mean elephants
10:02 mircea_popescu elephants are too heavy :D
10:03 thestringpuller it's funny how reddit consistently can't pay bills due to more users using it...
10:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22128 @ 0.00066494 = 14.7138 BTC [-]
10:03 thestringpuller "We are a victim of our own success"
10:04 BingoBoingo thestringpuller: You just don't know how the world works!!!
10:04 Adlai dunno. seems to me like they're just trying to get their edge in the graph-coloring race, in whatever way seems opportune right now. not saying anything about the likelihood of any individual participant to come out ahead, but there is a race and somebody will be winning it.
10:05 thestringpuller graph coloring race? aren't coloring books for toddlers?
10:06 mircea_popescu im with adlai.
10:07 mircea_popescu they're trying to be the biggest pony express company this side of the railroad, because such is the way things go.
10:07 Adlai "coloring" is probably the wrong word for this: turning the bitcoin transaction/address graph into a bitcoin transaction/[corporate]person graph
10:07 mircea_popescu a, not what i thought you meant.
10:07 Adlai what do you mean by pony express?
10:08 mircea_popescu what i thought you meant was : 1. people will make up numbers, irrespective of any reality, because it's what people do ; 2. those numbers will be put on an arbitrary graph ; 3. there will be a race to pretend meaning out of this meaningless combo. which race we call "painting the graph"
10:09 mircea_popescu sort-of like obama sitting in front of a line angled from the bottom left to the upper right, for no particular reason, that "represents" the "people", neither quoted symbols meaningful to any degree.
10:09 Adlai that race is only worth watching if there are some real captains of industry bidding on the fastest horse
10:09 mircea_popescu or just like a ceo stands in front of the same holy line, supposedly his performance somewhere in therer.
10:10 Adlai meanwhile it'll be fun to see how they conjure up an insecure security
10:10 mircea_popescu so in this sense, they wish to be the biggest provider of obsolete nonsense to the new world of novel nonsense.
10:10 Adlai well they're already the frontpage of nonsense :)
10:11 mircea_popescu so is timecube.
10:11 mircea_popescu nonsense has this blessed ability to carry an infinite number of front pages.
10:11 BingoBoingo Oh, a quality control meme https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B5dFR_dCcAASG4r.jpg
10:11 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1weiMjv )
10:12 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Well I thought that one of the timecube's essential points.
10:12 thestringpuller ;;ud timecube
10:12 mircea_popescu holy shit the chinese actually understand why chinese women are ugly ?!
10:12 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=timecube | Referring to timecube.com. Used to describe someone or something that is so stupid it tears at the very fabric of reality.
10:12 Adlai what's the financial incentive to paint these graphs? somebody must be subsidizing for companies to compete over it, even if it's just inadvertent subsidizing by clueless VC bagholders
10:12 * mircea_popescu head blown
10:13 mircea_popescu Adlai it's much simpler than that. confine three people in a space, notice they will talk. the stuff they talk about is unimportant, to them and everyone else.
10:13 mircea_popescu this same fundmental process is at work in "business".
10:14 Adlai ok, true. how about: "the steve pavlinas of the world"
10:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26642 @ 0.00067461 = 17.973 BTC [+] {2}
10:14 mircea_popescu that name seems familiar but wtf is it
10:14 Adlai you read enough of his nonsense and you'll find a bit of sense, but the SNR is woefully low
10:14 mircea_popescu o the weirdo guru/ex convict nut.
10:14 Adlai http://www.stevepavlina.com/
10:14 assbot Personal Development for Smart People - Steve Pavlina ... ( http://bit.ly/1weja1u )
10:15 mircea_popescu is this the guy that's married to the beached whale spiritualist ?
10:15 mircea_popescu erika or something
10:15 mircea_popescu http://www.erinpavlina.com/blog/2010/11/our-separation-one-year-later/
10:15 assbot Erin Pavlina ... ( http://bit.ly/1wejduh )
10:15 mircea_popescu not no more lol
10:16 thestringpuller lol my work says that's a malcious url
10:16 thestringpuller LOL
10:16 thestringpuller stevepavlina.com that i
10:16 thestringpuller s
10:16 mircea_popescu meh, malicious. kinda dumb, but then again...
10:16 Adlai things seemed to have gone downhill after the original reason that i'm familiar with this guy: http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/10/polyphasic-sleep/
10:16 assbot Polyphasic Sleep ... ( http://bit.ly/1wejmOn )
10:17 mircea_popescu all you weirdos fucking with your sleep i swear...
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10:17 mircea_popescu why! just let it be omg.
10:17 assbot Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3JZ0JA7.txt )
10:17 BingoBoingo !b 4
10:17 Adlai this is the only instance i've found of somebody claiming to pull this off properly, and then return to "normal" just for convenience
10:18 mircea_popescu if normalcy is convenient then wtf was he doing anyway
10:18 mircea_popescu "Erin Pavlina is a highly gifted intuitive counselor who connects with your spirit guides to provide you information and insights that will help you on your path. "
10:19 mircea_popescu holy shit, she should hire herself.
10:20 Adlai look at their domains. they get divorced and cut the house in half?
10:21 mircea_popescu i knew a number of chicks that got divorced while owning a one room apartment with hubby, so put a curtain down the middle.
10:21 mircea_popescu imagine, sharing the tiny ass bathroom with your ex
10:24 BingoBoingo Imagine if the only room was the bathroon!
10:26 mircea_popescu there's this ancient tradition among german tribes transplanted in transylvania, that a couple may only divorce after having spent a day in a tiny hut with a single plate, spoon, stool etc.
10:31 Adlai how about a couple may only get married after spending two weeks in that hut
10:35 mircea_popescu no because they'll fuck in any case after which the guy won't marry.
10:36 assbot Last 6 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/16Y2YK2.txt )
10:36 BingoBoingo !b 6
10:37 BingoBoingo So how is this vacation going? Still growing tits?
10:38 mircea_popescu lol
10:38 mircea_popescu bathing in black forest atm
10:38 mircea_popescu (it's a kind of cake)
10:41 BingoBoingo Ah, we have that here. Or at least a fascimile of it. Hard to tell here.
10:42 mircea_popescu im having my own version tho. no whipped cream. all home made.
10:42 BingoBoingo Nice
10:44 mircea_popescu homemade cakes are one of those religious experiences that put the innocent at risk of fundamentally altering their life. a steak gets ruined through the industrial process, of course, but somehow not quite to the degree
10:44 mircea_popescu cakes made by machines however... they're not really cakes.
10:45 mircea_popescu just the margerine alone. it's like instead of exanguinating the beast, you'd replace its blood with brake fluid, then butcher it.
10:46 mircea_popescu imagine, brake fluid steak!
10:46 BingoBoingo OMG Great idea, but instead of brake fluid... Wine transfusion for the cow before steaking it.
10:47 mircea_popescu im kinda curious why that never happened.
10:47 mircea_popescu a good six gallons of middling burgundy should do the trick.
10:47 BingoBoingo I really dunno.
10:48 mircea_popescu i guess if we ever make the bitcoin ranch it's getting tried.
10:50 BingoBoingo I mean alternately instead of beering up the cows like the Japanese do, it might be worth raising some seriously alcoholic cows.
10:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 993 @ 0.0012 = 1.1916 BTC
10:51 mircea_popescu nah
10:51 BingoBoingo The offal might have to go to some food recyclers, but ptobably get hella marbling in the meat.
10:51 mircea_popescu that doesn't work, herbivores get liver damage then the meat gets poisoned with fifty thousand different byproducts of a broken liver.
10:52 BingoBoingo Ah
10:52 Adlai stem cells!
10:52 mircea_popescu the main reason herbivore meat is so good (and we don't eat cat) is that its liver is so big and its diet so simple that the meat becomes very narrow, chemically
10:52 Adlai graphene filters!
10:52 Adlai cmon people, we can figure this one out
10:52 mircea_popescu burn the withc.
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11:10 Naphex o/
11:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28932 @ 0.00066445 = 19.2239 BTC [-] {2}
11:19 mircea_popescu heya Naphex
11:19 Naphex hey hey
11:21 davout Naphex: hello
11:21 davout how's the btcxchange.ro thing going?
11:22 Naphex dunno
11:22 Naphex seems still up
11:23 davout im kinda curious as to why messages from seemingly you and your associate are still up on the frontpage
11:25 Naphex no idea, that guy went full retard and just wrote shit on the news page
11:25 Naphex i'm waiting to be cited to give any explinations, not talking to that shithead otherwise:p
11:25 davout and he left the item about users being advised to empty their accounts?
11:26 Naphex he mostly did everything, i just quit and fucked off when he started rageing
11:27 Naphex including all the shitty announces
11:27 Naphex "Oh woes, i do not have control on the servers, i have to manually check each transaction"
11:27 Naphex you gotta figure what happened after he posted that
11:28 Naphex every dude on the internet started sending him a screenshot
11:29 Naphex so i wish him good luck
11:30 davout lol
11:31 davout "please prove your balance"
11:31 Naphex yep
11:31 davout "sure, have a screenshot"
11:31 davout derp
11:31 Naphex the servers only send to any queue with user confirmation (email, otp, password
11:31 Naphex so btc all works fine
11:31 Naphex but he decided to fuck with anyone with some fiat to withdraw
11:31 mircea_popescu if only they had gpg
11:32 davout mircea_popescu: what took you so long
11:32 davout :D
11:33 mircea_popescu i'm writing :)
11:42 jurov lmaoooo there's phrack gentoo ebuild? and last two editions are marked unstable?
11:47 davout jurov: building a magazine?
11:48 jurov let's see what emerge phrack does...
11:50 thestringpuller "gpg users unaffected" very similar to "bitcoin user unaffected"
11:53 jurov https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=533314 feel free to have fun here
11:53 assbot Bug 533314 – please stabilize app-doc/phrack , app-doc/phrack-all ... ( http://bit.ly/1x3qH72 )
11:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 893 @ 0.0012 = 1.0716 BTC {2}
12:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22371 @ 0.00066408 = 14.8561 BTC [-]
12:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1610 @ 0.00066276 = 1.067 BTC [-]
12:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.00067249 = 11.2978 BTC [+]
12:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17666 @ 0.00067287 = 11.8869 BTC [+] {3}
12:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 2327 @ 0.0012 = 2.7924 BTC {3}
12:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1036 @ 0.0012 = 1.2432 BTC {2}
12:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1357 @ 0.0012 = 1.6284 BTC
12:43 BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2014/12/belarus-experiences-bonanzacurrency-panic/
12:43 assbot Belarus Experiences Bonanza/Currency Panic | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1weFEzm )
12:43 BingoBoingo !up huseby
12:44 jurov soo.. phrack ebuild created a buch of files like /usr/share/doc/phrack/p66_0x01_Introduction.txt.bz2
12:45 davout txt.bz2 because your disk space totally is the limiting factor
12:46 jurov would be way cooler if it compiled code samples,too :D
12:53 TomServo BingoBoingo: The "show trials" link on the most recent bahahahra/ulbricht article has an errant http:// suffix.
12:54 TomServo Also, nice article.
12:58 BingoBoingo Thanks, will fix
13:03 danielpbarron jurov, did you get my later tell?
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13:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19940 @ 0.00066691 = 13.2982 BTC [-] {2}
13:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29071 @ 0.00065472 = 19.0334 BTC [-] {2}
13:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47249 @ 0.00064925 = 30.6764 BTC [-] {4}
13:37 mircea_popescu anyone wanna do a coupla bux' paypal payment for me ?
13:39 danielpbarron i do
13:45 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
13:45 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 331.63, Best ask: 332.18, Bid-ask spread: 0.55000, Last trade: 332.2, 24 hour volume: 12015.61092957, 24 hour low: 319.9, 24 hour high: 333.95, 24 hour vwap: 326.796030377
13:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37100 @ 0.0006423 = 23.8293 BTC [-] {3}
13:58 mircea_popescu laters terrorists!
14:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 230 @ 0.00464996 = 1.0695 BTC [+] {2}
14:06 kakobrekla so, lisp brick is real after all; http://shrani.si/f/11/n7/247iggSx/lisp-brick.jpg
14:06 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1weRQjx )
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14:24 kakobrekla https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/884592321/glorious-leader
14:24 assbot Glorious Leader! by Moneyhorse — Kickstarter ... ( http://bit.ly/16JSAsk )
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14:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1667 @ 0.0012 = 2.0004 BTC
14:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1938 @ 0.0012 = 2.3256 BTC
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15:38 jurov danielpbarron i got it but there were several other issues
15:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47600 @ 0.00064952 = 30.9172 BTC [+]
15:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20400 @ 0.00066126 = 13.4897 BTC [+] {2}
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16:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 2850 @ 0.0012 = 3.42 BTC
16:31 grubles can anyone tell me whats wrong with this: http://web.archive.org/web/20121015125121/http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php?mpsic=S.BVPS
16:31 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1zq6Zpr )
16:32 mike_c it doesn't have enough css?
16:32 grubles close, but no cigar
16:33 mike_c hm.. no ads?
16:33 mike_c I give up. what's wrong with it?
16:34 grubles ill give you a hint, theres only 2 gpg signatures.
16:35 mike_c so, you didn't sign it?
16:35 mike_c ;;ident grubles
16:35 gribble Nick 'grubles', with hostmask 'grubles!~dan@unaffiliated/grubles', is identified as user 'grubles', with GPG key id 31040DE39974C0B2, key fingerprint D191CE495914F681F7CA94EB31040DE39974C0B2, and bitcoin address 17YADanYc9pCZZrLA4fH7qcDmrDtMXscEz
16:35 grubles correct
16:35 grubles my current key is not the same one btw
16:36 grubles anyway, just food for thought if anyone in here is considering working with mpoe or mircea_popescu
16:36 grubles he clearly doesnt follow his own rules
16:37 mike_c well, but what's the problem? Clearly you didn't sign it.
16:37 grubles and yet it was still a valid contract, for some reason.
16:37 mike_c or at least, i'm taking your word since i didn't check the two signatures to see if one of them was yours.
16:38 grubles "Should BitVPS fail to execute this Agreement, as for instance by but not limited to breaching 2.2.e above, MPEX will notify the named individuals of their breach and may, at its sole discretion, suspend BitVPS from trading thus activating the liquidation of BitVPS. "
16:38 grubles interesting considering it shouldnt have been executed in the first place
16:39 TomServo grubles: what's with the timing? A year after delisting?
16:39 grubles ive brought it up before, you probably werent around.
16:40 TomServo I'm asking: why are you bringing it up now?
16:41 grubles well hopefully im keeping people in here from giving mp money.
16:41 grubles timing? no particular reason.
16:41 TomServo K, just curious - seems like ancient news.
16:42 grubles a couple people and i were discussing rg and bitvps
16:42 mike_c what's the specific beef? you don't think it should have been listed or delisted?
16:43 kakobrekla want more fun? find the sig: http://web.archive.org/web/20121213082144/http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php?mpsic=S.MPOE
16:43 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1zq9ckQ )
16:43 grubles shouldnt have. because both of them went behind my back to list bitvps on mpoe.
16:43 grubles if the web archive link isnt evidence enough
16:45 grubles anyway. like i said: food for thought.
16:48 Anduck LOL
16:48 Anduck mirany comments?
16:48 Anduck ohh mp is not around
16:49 * danielpbarron doesn't understand what the drama is
16:49 Anduck apparently a company being listed at mpex without owners of the company agreeing on listing it
16:50 Anduck so, a company listed without permission
16:50 danielpbarron http://mpex.co/?mpsic=D.BPAY << like this?
16:50 TomServo !up jborkl
16:51 jborkl Merry xmas
16:51 Anduck nope- read the bitvps agreement
16:51 jborkl Or w/e you do wherever you are
16:51 TomServo http://trilema.com/2013/sbvps-delisting-notice/
16:51 assbot S.BVPS delisting notice pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1zqaJHH )
16:52 Anduck S.BVPS was listed on MPEx on April the 12th, 2012, under the ownership signature of rg, then as of now one of the best trusted WoT members. It began trading on the 15th that same month, with a total market capitalisation of about 3`000 BTC.
16:53 Anduck this is the thing ^
16:53 Anduck it _shouldnt ever been listed_ since it was never agreed on
16:53 danielpbarron well the signature(s) on that page are not formatted correctly, or at least I can't figure out how to validate them
16:53 Anduck then l2gpg
16:53 Anduck :I
16:53 kakobrekla i think one header is missing there
16:53 Anduck anyway it's missing a really important one, owner of bitvps'
16:53 mike_c well, it was agreed on by rg
16:54 Anduck rg didnt own bitvps
16:54 kakobrekla so its rgs idiocy
16:54 Anduck or mirceas? =)
16:54 mike_c "WHEREAS, the aforenamed James "rg" Edward was delegated to represent the Board of Directors of BitVPS" << you're saying this is untrue?
16:55 kakobrekla Anduck were you around at the time?
16:55 Anduck ...to mention people, say in the contract that the signatures will make it valid, then there's 1 signature missing, they still let it on the exchange and it's being traded.
16:55 Anduck kakobrekla: since 2011
16:55 Anduck it's irrelevant anyway
16:55 kakobrekla well its not, if i do a runner now, is it mps fault too ?
16:55 Anduck apparently it is.
16:55 kakobrekla cool
16:55 * kakobrekla goes.
16:56 mike_c it shouldn't have mentioned grubles' key if he wasn't going to sign it. but the contract says rg was talking for the board, so his was the only "required" signature.
16:56 Anduck i only read what you said after a comma
16:56 Anduck kakobrekla: ^
16:56 Anduck mike_c: no, both were required
16:56 mike_c "WHEREAS, the aforenamed James "rg" Edward was delegated to represent the Board of Directors of BitVPS"
16:57 Anduck when rg didnt own bitvps?
16:57 Anduck LOL
16:57 mike_c you don't have to get signatures from every person involved with a company to execute a contract with that company.
16:57 Anduck delegated by the contract that wasn't signed by bitvps real owner?
16:57 Anduck indeed mik
16:57 Anduck just read the contract now
16:57 Anduck it's funny
16:58 Anduck funny how mircea_popescu let this happen
16:58 Anduck i'm not surprised. i still remember the "you sent 10btc late to bitbet, now it's ours because faq says it's ours now"
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16:59 kakobrekla well no
16:59 kakobrekla its ours cause the private key says so.
16:59 mike_c omg, ok, i just lost all interest in this conversation.
16:59 Anduck kakobrekla: LOL
17:00 Anduck can coinbase now declare all the people-deposit bitcoins as theirs because they own the private keys?
17:00 Anduck that's FUCKING LAME, kakobrekla!
17:00 kakobrekla ?!
17:00 Anduck can't beieve bitbet is now at this level :D
17:00 Anduck lol
17:00 kakobrekla idk if you know how the bitcoin works.
17:00 Anduck i know what's stealing at least
17:01 kakobrekla good for you
17:01 Anduck ;;rated kakobrekla
17:01 gribble You rated user kakobrekla on Mon Aug 27 14:22:51 2012, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: bought bitcoinmax-account from him, smooth and nice.
17:01 kakobrekla hehe
17:02 Anduck ;;rate kakobrekla -5 about the "bitbet 10btc stealing"-case, "kakobrekla| its ours cause the private key says so."
17:02 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user kakobrekla has changed from 1 to -5.
17:02 kakobrekla lol
17:02 Anduck :(
17:02 jborkl Bitcoinmax was btcst? I remember gpumax
17:02 Anduck yes it was btcst stuffs
17:03 kakobrekla after it got defunct ftr.
17:03 kakobrekla hehe
17:03 Anduck yup
17:04 jborkl What was the rate, 7% per day? Or week
17:04 jborkl I can't remember
17:04 Anduck yes
17:04 kakobrekla ;;rated Anduck
17:04 Anduck 7% per week
17:04 gribble You rated user Anduck on Mon Aug 27 14:21:13 2012, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: easy transaction.
17:05 Anduck kakobrekla: do a counter-rating HEH
17:05 kakobrekla ;;rated Anduck -5 idiot. does not understand how bitcoin works.
17:05 gribble (rated <nick>) -- Get the details about the rating you gave to <nick>, if any.
17:05 kakobrekla ;;rate Anduck -5 idiot. does not understand how bitcoin works.
17:05 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user Anduck has changed from 1 to -5.
17:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20550 @ 0.00067586 = 13.8889 BTC [+] {2}
17:05 Anduck thanks for fullfilling my request HEH xD
17:06 danielpbarron ;;gettrust assbot Anduck
17:06 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask Anduck!~anduck@unaffiliated/anduck. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Anduck: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 6 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Anduck | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Anduck | Rated since: Tue May 8 11:28:43 2012
17:06 kakobrekla this needs to be fixed also.
17:06 Anduck which?
17:06 jurov grubles how should mircea know rg is acting in bad faith? did you raise your voice then?
17:06 Anduck he left already
17:06 jurov and what about later listing on btctct, was that okay?
17:07 Anduck to mmy knowledge they all knew what they were doing
17:07 * danielpbarron will wait to see if there is a valid signature block before passing judgement
17:07 Anduck rg and mircea knew they were going against grubles
17:07 Anduck but because, you know, if you have money you can make your own rules.. you can bend them too..
17:07 Anduck this is what this is as i see it.
17:08 jurov but then the mess is going on, because Namworld bought most of the shares
17:08 jurov and took over with arij and whatwas his name
17:08 Anduck just like the stealing of 10 btc by bitbet.. owners of bitbet now claim "we own the private key that corresponds to the public key the money was stent, therefore money is now ours" if i understood kakos sentence correctly
17:08 Anduck jurov: i don't know about that.
17:09 Anduck i only know that bitvps was listed against bitvps owners will to mp
17:09 Anduck ex
17:09 kakobrekla Anduck by your idiotic definition of stealing, bitbet 'stole' way more than 10 btc.
17:09 Anduck i wouldn't be amazed.
17:09 jurov ic, nobody knows anything, they just occassionally come to chan, stir shit up and leave
17:09 Anduck jurov: that is not relevant to this case :)
17:09 jborkl Anduck, what prompted this? Is there something prompting this
17:09 kakobrekla its all in public monthly records Anduck.
17:10 cazalla <Anduck> i'm not surprised. i still remember the "you sent 10btc late to bitbet, now it's ours because faq says it's ours now" <<< fuck angle shooters, they deserve what they get
17:10 Anduck jborkl: you can ask grubles about the details of this
17:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00067061 = 4.0237 BTC [-]
17:10 kakobrekla jurov vote with your wot, what can i say.
17:11 Anduck jborkl: he most likely can give you more accurate answers than i can. i don't know about this case
17:11 Anduck i see only what i see
17:11 Anduck and i see a contract that wasn't signed completely and still was accepted by mircea popescu to be listed on mpex
17:11 jurov i just few days ago asked arij why he does not advertise bitvps on this chan openly
17:12 Anduck cazalla: well, it's still stealing even if they deserve it
17:14 cazalla Anduck, right because theft is when someone willingly sends you something
17:14 jurov http://trilema.com/2013/rota-post-mortem/ << Anduck see the discussion, it's mircea's and kako's sacrosanct right to arrange unprotected hole in the foyer with a sign "whatever falls here, is our property"
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17:14 assbot ROTA, post mortem. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1zqeYD5 )
17:14 cazalla one can imagine all the wasted time refunding angle shooters if such a policy wasn't in place
17:15 Anduck jurov: that is about mpex. this what i am talking about isn't about mpex. it's about bitbet.us
17:15 jurov same philosophy
17:15 Anduck could coinbase now just take all the bitcoins and leave?
17:16 Anduck stating that they own the private keys so they own the bitcoins
17:16 Anduck and it would be perfectly fine and legal?
17:16 Anduck people sent the bitcoins there at their own will, nobody forced them to
17:17 cazalla well, don't they already do that when cancelling orders not in their favour
17:17 jurov coinbase 1) does not have such provision in their terms of service
17:17 cazalla not really the same thing anyway
17:17 Anduck jurov: does bitbet?
17:17 jurov 2) is not placed in jurosdiction that allows for it
17:17 Anduck romanian laws don't allow stealing
17:17 Anduck EUROPEAN laws don't allow stealing
17:17 Anduck heh
17:18 jurov http://bitbet.us/faq/#150 << bitbet does
17:18 assbot FAQ BitBet ... ( http://bit.ly/1zqfIb7 )
17:18 Anduck when did FAQ become "terms of service"?
17:18 jurov apparently in serenissima jurisdiction it does
17:20 cazalla Anduck, what would be your solution?
17:21 kakobrekla Anduck bitcoin is not a credit card, you dont 'pull' stuff from it, you 'push'. if someone pushes 100$ bill in your postbox, did you steal from him?
17:22 Anduck kakobrekla: can coinbase just flee away with the user-deposited funds because they own the private keys?
17:22 kakobrekla well, they indeed can.
17:22 Anduck cazalla: i'd be sane and refund it
17:22 cazalla Anduck, imagine worst thing that could happen is that my bet is refunded in full.. well, why not bet on every known outcome and see if some slip past the goalie
17:22 Anduck kakobrekla: do you think it would be good way to do it?
17:22 kakobrekla to do what?
17:23 danielpbarron refunding it would set a bad precedence
17:23 Anduck cazalla: indeed - make the refund automatic then
17:23 kakobrekla and refund costs you 5$
17:23 kakobrekla and someone pushes 1000000 1 dollar bills
17:23 kakobrekla go fuck yourself.
17:23 Anduck heh
17:23 Anduck you don't apparently want to understand what i am saying.
17:23 Anduck but itä's fine, it's as i expected
17:23 kakobrekla no, you dont understand how btc works.
17:24 danielpbarron when is bitbet going to start accepting redditnote?
17:24 Anduck heh
17:24 Anduck sure, whatever.
17:25 kakobrekla now shoo, go be stupid in some other chan.
17:25 Anduck grow up?
17:25 Anduck heh. don't worry, no need to really
17:25 kakobrekla yes you should also do that.
17:26 Anduck yep.. probably :)
17:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 7025 @ 0.0012 = 8.43 BTC {2}
17:41 undata BingoBoingo: I enjoyed your recent article on the DPR case
17:42 kakobrekla too bad he didnt have another surname starting with letter K
17:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1700 @ 0.0012 = 2.04 BTC
17:49 kakobrekla !up Elio19
17:49 Elio19 Hi
17:49 kakobrekla hi
17:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23844 @ 0.00064761 = 15.4416 BTC [-]
17:50 Elio19 Thanks for the voice, but honestly i think the chan was better off before. The reason is: It's nearly Christmas. And, im grinch.
17:51 kakobrekla it only lasts for 30 min.
17:52 Elio19 heh
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18:12 Anduck danielpbarron: verified that the contract needs grubles signature to be valid and the said signature is missing?
18:12 danielpbarron how can you verify a negative?
18:13 danielpbarron anyone can produce a doctored gpg contract and say it wasn't signed right
18:14 Anduck this one was published at mpex. are you saying mpex has edited it after signing?
18:14 danielpbarron does it matter where the invalid signature is found?
18:14 kakobrekla not only bitcoin, he doesnt understand how the internets works.
18:15 Anduck just answer me and do do ad hominem shit
18:15 Anduck don't
18:15 Anduck don't do* :)
18:15 kakobrekla im not your personal google
18:15 Anduck indeed.
18:15 danielpbarron i think html and gpg don't always mix well
18:16 danielpbarron and this clearsigning of clearsigned stuff can get a bit complicated
18:16 Anduck yup
18:16 Anduck danielpbarron: well, let me know when you've parsed it so you can verify that the signature isn't there, making the contract not valid
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18:17 kakobrekla lulz
18:17 danielpbarron i can't verify that such a signature doesn't exist
18:17 danielpbarron i can only verify that it does exist
18:17 kakobrekla NO BUT YOU SEE DONT AD HOMINEM SHIT
18:18 kakobrekla seems like lukejr type of braindamage where the hw has issues, not only sw.
18:18 Anduck kakobrekla: do you have something you want to tell me about this or why do you keep talking/shouting to me?
18:18 Anduck i don't get it :)
18:18 Anduck if you have nothing to contribute, you don't need to type anything here... k?
18:18 kakobrekla well i believe that you dont get it.
18:19 Anduck that may very well be so, could i just not discuss this matter with danielpbarron in peace without your childish interruptions?
18:19 kakobrekla we are playing with you like a retarded kitty before you run off to get hit by a car.
18:19 Anduck danielpbarron: well, i am not talking about "gpg verifying", i am talking about verifying.
18:19 danielpbarron "gpg verifying" is the only verifying
18:20 Anduck well, can you _check_ that the said signature isn't there?
18:20 * danielpbarron slaps Anduck around a bit with a large repetition
18:20 Anduck if you can't do that, can you verify the signature and sign the verification to me.
18:20 kakobrekla no dont ad hominem him danielpbarron
18:20 kakobrekla lul
18:20 Anduck danielpbarron: if you fail to do that signing and verification, it is evidence of that the said signature -does not exist-
18:21 Anduck which means that mircea popescu is a con man
18:21 Anduck prove me wrong, danielpbarron
18:21 mike_c <+Anduck> if you have nothing to contribute, you don't need to type anything here... k? << have you been in this channel before?
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18:21 danielpbarron Anduck, you are saying such nonsense right now i'm at a loss for words
18:21 Anduck pls no derailing this time
18:21 Anduck danielpbarron: ok. what part is unclear?
18:22 danielpbarron oh, it's clear
18:22 danielpbarron you clearly don't understand gpg
18:22 Anduck alright
18:22 kakobrekla or internets
18:22 danielpbarron or life apparently
18:22 kakobrekla or bitcoin.
18:22 Anduck so you're unable to verify the grubles' signature and sign this verification for me?
18:22 Anduck i see.
18:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 4150 @ 0.0012 = 4.98 BTC
18:23 Anduck i agree on you both: i don't understand gpg, life or bitcoin. let's be done with that ok?
18:23 kakobrekla well wtf are you talking then for ?
18:23 danielpbarron it is impossible to prove the absence of X, whether it be gpg signatures, or God
18:23 Anduck now let's discuss whether grubles signature (which would be needed to make the contract discussed earlier, valid) is not in place
18:23 Anduck danielpbarron: alright.
18:24 Anduck this means that the contract is not valid.
18:24 Anduck there's no signature which would make it valid.
18:24 Anduck right--?
18:24 danielpbarron i may not have the signature, but me not having it does not prove that it cannot be had
18:24 kakobrekla no, it just means you are incredibly retarded.
18:24 Anduck even if someone had signed it and made it valid, it's not public, making it not valid for all of us. as shown by mpex
18:24 kakobrekla (fuck this is too easy :()
18:24 danielpbarron why should it be public now? isn't that all over?
18:24 Anduck danielpbarron: well, mpex doesn't have it apparently. or if they do have, they hide it
18:24 danielpbarron but whoever cares probably still has a copy of the contract somewhere
18:24 Anduck it should be public to show that the contract is valid
18:25 Anduck danielpbarron: the copy is at the mpex.
18:25 Anduck :)
18:25 danielpbarron "should be"
18:25 Anduck and it's missing the signature.
18:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 4150 @ 0.0012 = 4.98 BTC
18:25 Anduck grubles said he never signed it.
18:25 Anduck _never signed it_.
18:25 danielpbarron ok that's another thing
18:25 Anduck mpex can't prove it was signed, either
18:25 danielpbarron interesting to see how this plays out
18:25 danielpbarron yes mpex can
18:25 Anduck well, grubles says he did not sign it
18:25 danielpbarron maybe it is signed and mp comes later and shows us
18:25 Anduck if mpex can show the signature, it's all fine.
18:25 Anduck but as long as they can't, it's not fine
18:25 Anduck danielpbarron: indeed
18:25 Anduck let's hope so
18:26 kakobrekla lol
18:26 danielpbarron and even if he doesn't, i'm not sure it would even matter
18:26 danielpbarron since that company isn't listed anymore
18:26 Anduck well, it would only make mpex corrupted
18:26 Anduck danielpbarron: so what happened before at mpex isn't relevant?
18:26 danielpbarron if nobody can find the signature, that still doesn't prove it never existed
18:26 kakobrekla im getting ban requests here but srsly, wot - make it work.
18:26 Anduck kakobrekla: who would you like to ban and what for?
18:26 Anduck :)
18:26 danielpbarron ;;rated Anduck
18:26 gribble You rated user Anduck on Thu Aug 14 13:39:36 2014, with a rating of -2, and supplied these additional notes: this http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-otc/logs/2014/08/14#l1408037518 and this http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-otc/logs/2014/07/23#l1406132751.
18:27 Anduck it's funny how the defences work.
18:27 danielpbarron should probably update that with this convo
18:27 Anduck sorry i lied, it's not funny. it's sad
18:27 Anduck danielpbarron: probably.
18:27 kakobrekla Anduck you are too stupid to be here. ppl want you gone and are asking me to remove you with a +b which i will not do.
18:28 danielpbarron ;;rate Anduck -3 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-12-2014#958897
18:28 assbot Logged on 22-12-2014 23:16:46; Anduck: danielpbarron: well, let me know when you've parsed it so you can verify that the signature isn't there, making the contract not valid
18:28 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user Anduck has changed from -2 to -3.
18:29 Anduck kakobrekla: please elaborate
18:29 Anduck :)
18:29 kakobrekla !?
18:29 Anduck "Anduck you are too stupid to be here."
18:29 kakobrekla its plain english as far as i can tell
18:29 Anduck fine, do not elaborate
18:30 Anduck i just find it quite sad that an operator of this channel keeps on harrassing with "you're too stupid to be here" and "go fuck yourself" etc
18:30 * kakobrekla hands out a tissue.
18:31 Anduck heh
18:31 danielpbarron i don't disagree with kakobrekla's assessment
18:31 Anduck i know that.
18:31 danielpbarron i'd like to see the WoT sort it out
18:31 Anduck you can start with -10ing me
18:32 danielpbarron that wouldn't do anything
18:32 kakobrekla it doesnt work that way, but what would you know.
18:32 Anduck indeed.
18:32 undata can't decide if Anduck is worse than Luke-Jr
18:32 danielpbarron ;;gettrust assbot Anduck
18:32 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask Anduck!~anduck@unaffiliated/anduck. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Anduck: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 6 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Anduck | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Anduck | Rated since: Tue May 8 11:28:43 2012
18:32 punkman ;;rate Anduck -1 for the purpose of #bitcoin-assets devoicing
18:32 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user Anduck has been recorded.
18:32 kakobrekla undata on stupid level he is worse but damage he is doing = 0
18:32 Anduck damage against..?
18:32 kakobrekla cept for spammin here
18:32 Anduck who am i trying to make damage against?
18:33 kakobrekla log integrity
18:33 undata ;;rate Anduck -3 does not understand what zero means
18:33 gribble Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
18:33 Anduck well, get me the signature of the contract
18:33 Anduck _please do_
18:34 danielpbarron patience is a virtue
18:34 Anduck negbomb meanwhile XD
18:35 punkman it's been what, 2 years since delisting?
18:35 Anduck punkman: how is that even relevant?
18:36 punkman how is your blabbing relevant now?
18:36 mike_c ;;rate Anduck -1 spam-trolling. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-12-2014#958754
18:36 assbot Logged on 22-12-2014 21:58:57; Anduck: i'm not surprised. i still remember the "you sent 10btc late to bitbet, now it's ours because faq says it's ours now"
18:36 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user Anduck has been recorded.
18:36 Anduck punkman: answer me question.
18:36 Anduck :)
18:37 punkman well logs don't got back far enough, but I don't see grubles mentioning this ever before
18:37 Anduck grubles has mentioned it when it happened.
18:37 Anduck he has mentioned it after that
18:37 Anduck and he has mentioned it today too
18:37 Anduck but it's all irrelevant
18:38 Anduck it's not about whether grubles mentioned it or not. it's about that the signature -is missing- from the contract
18:38 Anduck grubles says he never signed it
18:38 Anduck what does this tell you about mpex?
18:38 danielpbarron so far it just tells me something about grubles
18:38 Anduck it tells that i am trolling and should be devoiced immediately?
18:38 punkman it tells me grubles is a young boi and can't business
18:39 Anduck punkman: because he didn't sign a contract and the contract was still accepted as valid?
18:39 Anduck that said contract needed his signature too, as stated in the contract
18:39 Anduck makes him a kid when others break the rules?
18:39 danielpbarron immediately is not two users going out of their way to gpg authenticate and issue a rating
18:39 undata ;;rate Anduck -3 does not understand what zero means
18:39 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of -3 for user Anduck has been recorded.
18:39 undata heh, 3
18:40 Anduck fine, whatever.
18:40 danielpbarron well he's at -1 now; who will do the honors?
18:40 undata I even fixed pinentry to do so.
18:40 Anduck i guess it does lower my trust when i state out the facts.
18:40 undata twas jacked due to gremlins
18:41 punkman so, I'm curious, how many times did bitvps change hands?
18:41 asciilifeform anyone else getting 'Error: Problem creating encrypted OTP file.' from gribble today ?
18:41 punkman was it incorporated when rg and grubles owned it?
18:44 BingoBoingo !up TheButterZone
18:44 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I haven't authed since yesterday
18:44 danielpbarron i authed today
18:45 kakobrekla asciilifeform worked like half an hour ago.
18:46 asciilifeform nm, fixed
18:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00064761 = 1.4247 BTC [-]
18:49 Anduck punkman: it was incorporated by grubles only.
18:50 Anduck rg could've been part of it, though. i am still not aware of all the facts. the point still is that rg alone couldnt have signed the contract - even when the contract states grubles signature is also needed
18:52 danielpbarron ;;gettrust assbot grubles
18:52 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask grubles!~dan@unaffiliated/grubles. Trust relationship from user assbot to user grubles: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=grubles | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=grubles | Rated since: Fri Jul 8 22:21:47 2011
18:53 danielpbarron could be grubles is a liar
18:53 punkman https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=66246.msg768428#msg768428
18:53 assbot [REQUEST] Funding for BitVPS.COM ... ( http://bit.ly/1vhYeY8 )
18:55 punkman anyway, contract says rg is representing bitvps, so his sig is good enough for my fuzzy parser
18:55 Anduck no
18:55 Anduck contract says both sigs are needed.
18:56 punkman yes that's what your parser says, no need to repeat ad infinitum
18:56 Anduck ..so how is one sig "good enough" when it says it needs both?
18:57 punkman you ever run a company?
18:57 Anduck don't derail - keep the logs clean :)
18:58 kakobrekla ad brominem ho!
18:59 assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0CB3TVJ.txt )
18:59 BingoBoingo !b 2
18:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 2000 @ 0.0012 = 2.4 BTC
19:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 12411 @ 0.0012 = 14.8932 BTC
19:02 Anduck punkman: contract says that rg is representing bitvps. sure. but that contract is not signed by bitvps owners.
19:03 Anduck they can state whatever they want. the signature of the owners isn't there, making the contract/paper invalid
19:04 danielpbarron !down Anduck repetitive
19:05 punkman "i guess it does lower my trust when i state out the facts." "am still not aware of all the facts."
19:06 Anduck i don't need to know all the facts when i only speak about few...... come on, this is all you can do?
19:07 BingoBoingo http://www.dailydot.com/lol/erotic-german-carp-fishing-calendar/
19:07 assbot This erotic German carp calendar is the worst Christmas gift imaginable ... ( http://bit.ly/1vi03nY )
19:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18657 @ 0.00067744 = 12.639 BTC [+]
19:14 punkman !down Anduck
19:14 punkman it dun work kako
19:15 punkman ;;gettrust assbot Anduck
19:15 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask Anduck!~anduck@unaffiliated/anduck. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Anduck: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 8 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Anduck | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Anduck | Rated since: Tue May 8 11:28:43 2012
19:15 kakobrekla myea, 'down' doesnt actively check for l2 :|
19:15 punkman what does it check?
19:15 Anduck oh no :(
19:15 Anduck :)
19:16 kakobrekla the relationship between downer and downee at upping
19:17 kakobrekla Anduck would you be so kind and hop (part and join if you want) the chan?
19:17 Anduck kind after you told me to fuck off? sorry,no.
19:17 Anduck you're too irrogant to ask me for favours..
19:18 punkman ignorant+arrogant=irrogant?
19:21 kakobrekla idk but it sounds bad.
19:22 punkman your irrogant!
19:22 kakobrekla lmao
19:22 punkman ima start using that
19:23 assbot Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3M0RME6.txt )
19:23 BingoBoingo !b 5
19:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1025 @ 0.0012 = 1.23 BTC
19:24 punkman !t m s.bbet
19:24 assbot [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.0002 / 0.00021036 / 0.000459 (5000 shares, 1.05 BTC), 7D: 0.0001 / 0.00014649 / 0.000459 (83033 shares, 12.16 BTC), 30D: 0.0001 / 0.00024317 / 0.00049 (130112 shares, 31.64 BTC)
19:24 punkman who tanked bbet!
19:25 punkman thought I think I might have grabbed some of those 0.0001 shares
19:25 punkman *though
19:25 kakobrekla tanked on a 1 btc volume ?
19:25 kakobrekla no, 12.
19:27 BingoBoingo What happens next during MP's vacation? Is pirateat40 going to show up and say Ponzi would still be going if only hanbot wasn't slandering his soul?
19:28 kakobrekla !l m s.bbet
19:28 assbot Last trade for S.BBET on MPEX was at 0.0002 BTC [+]
19:28 kakobrekla this is not correct
19:28 kakobrekla ;;later tell mircea_popescu ping
19:28 gribble The operation succeeded.
19:29 punkman why is it wrong?
19:30 punkman oh never mind
19:30 kakobrekla theres a couple of endpoints where assbot gets data for mpex
19:30 kakobrekla and seems some of those endpoints are deaf
19:31 kakobrekla and im missing trade data for all the symbols
19:31 kakobrekla the !l command is a locally cached command.
19:36 kakobrekla this has correct data : http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.BBET
19:36 assbot CoinBr Live S.BBET ... ( http://bit.ly/1vi3Stl )
19:39 decimation ;;ticker
19:39 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 332.89, Best ask: 333.82, Bid-ask spread: 0.93000, Last trade: 333.91, 24 hour volume: 11841.92676751, 24 hour low: 319.9, 24 hour high: 333.99, 24 hour vwap: 328.30862748
19:40 decimation !up Quanttek
19:51 thestringpuller cazalla still awake?
20:06 decimation !up kanzure
20:12 cazalla thestringpuller, i am, just put the kid down to zzz
20:13 thestringpuller http://theraptest.com/ << this is up my ally
20:13 thestringpuller BingoBoingo: found it
20:14 BingoBoingo Well I found it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2q3pfw/nas_gives_his_true_fans_the_choice_to_get_into/
20:14 assbot Nas gives his "true fans" the choice to get into Bitcoin : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1ABcalo )
20:15 BingoBoingo This is how coinbase competes with BitPay during Bitcoin Bowl week
20:15 thestringpuller i wish they had jay-z or something
20:16 thestringpuller i fucking hate nas tho. he's not a real gangsta
20:16 thestringpuller he also made me hate kelis for no reason!
20:17 thestringpuller based on this test, Kanye is my favorite rapper out of all these
20:17 thestringpuller Pac is my least
20:18 cazalla hate 2pack? you are such a hipster thestringpuller
20:18 thestringpuller d00d
20:18 thestringpuller fuck pac
20:18 thestringpuller if it wasn't for him being brain washed by suge knight
20:18 thestringpuller we'd still have biggie
20:19 thestringpuller they should have all just ganged up on suge knight
20:19 thestringpuller and yea I'll say it I'm glad suge knight got shot up recently!
20:19 * thestringpuller emotional backpacker
20:19 thestringpuller ;;ud backpacker
20:19 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=backpacker | Backpacker is based on a fashion style popular in the mid to late 90s where people involved in hip-hop wore large backpacks. Originated by graf wri...
20:19 cazalla lol
20:20 cazalla but yeah i saw this, checked out the saw but it's a bit of a zzz
20:20 cazalla write it up though if you are inclined, would go with the 50c article
20:20 mod6 im waitin on Bitcoin Motivation 101
20:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 6650 @ 0.0012 = 7.98 BTC
20:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32850 @ 0.00063851 = 20.9751 BTC [-] {3}
20:34 thestringpuller fiddy: i don't wanna be hidin' inside when nobody outside anymore
20:41 kakobrekla !up paxtoncamaro91
20:53 decimation !up badon
20:59 BingoBoingo !up jborkl
21:02 jborkl Hello all
21:03 BingoBoingo Hello
~ 19 minutes ~
21:22 ben_vulpes i'm aliiiiive
21:22 ben_vulpes sort of
21:24 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Why only sort of?
21:25 decimation ben_vulpes: how did the unbillable work go?
21:27 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: went to bed at 5 am, woke up at 9
21:27 BingoBoingo Ah
21:27 ben_vulpes decimation: well last night after rigorous testing i neglected to disable the nightly job that i'd just proved responsible for taking down the client cluster
21:27 ben_vulpes "proved" << just for you, alf
21:27 decimation sucks man
21:27 decimation I hate redoing work
21:28 ben_vulpes so i woke up from the sleep of "ah - i've finally stablized this thing" at the butt of dawn to bring the cluster back
~ 30 minutes ~
21:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1200 @ 0.0012 = 1.44 BTC
22:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 950 @ 0.0012 = 1.14 BTC
~ 49 minutes ~
22:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1020 @ 0.0012 = 1.224 BTC
22:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 4175 @ 0.0012 = 5.01 BTC
22:59 Bet placed: 1.30268247 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to win vs S&P 500" http://bitbet.us/bet/989/ Odds: 18(Y):82(N) by coin, 44(Y):56(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.12679026 BTC. Current weight: 9,854.
23:00 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: so you think your day job is painful. go debug a rom, for an evil embedded cpu arch, to which you haven't source.
23:02 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: so you think your day job is painful. go debug a rom, for an evil embedded cpu arch, to which you haven't source. << If you had the source though it wouldn't be sporting.
23:03 * asciilifeform spends his evenings debugging an entirely other rom to which he does have source. and disagrees, seeing how there is plenty of sport in it.
23:07 BingoBoingo But is the other, evening, ROM evil?
23:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1470 @ 0.0012 = 1.764 BTC
~ 23 minutes ~
23:44 danielpbarron !up dustcoin
23:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1250 @ 0.0012 = 1.5 BTC
23:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 2740 @ 0.0012 = 3.288 BTC
23:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 12000 @ 0.001208 = 14.496 BTC [+]
23:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1000 @ 0.00121947 = 1.2195 BTC [+] {3}
23:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1084 @ 0.00122532 = 1.3282 BTC [+] {11}
23:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 1250 @ 0.00464998 = 5.8125 BTC [+]
23:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1000 @ 0.00122918 = 1.2292 BTC [+] {10}
23:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1500 @ 0.0012311 = 1.8467 BTC [+] {9}
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